Agreed. It had a lot of boomy lows, though, I replaced it with a pair of Duncan Solars (thanks to Marko Makinen) New comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html
Yes, sure, you have both active and passive 8 string SD Invaders, just check their website! 👍👍 As for the Duncan Solars, no, they only come with Solar guitars. I got mine from a used one (the guitarist from the Finnish band Bloody Falls)
Invader SH-8B vs Solar: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html 00:19 Exterior comparison 01:20 Jackson stock with backing track 04:05 Invader SH-8B with backing track 06:50 Jackson stock guitars only 09:34 Invader SH-8B guitars only 12:18 My new album
I don't think one is better than the other. Both have a distinctive sound. I put black winters in my v and sometimes miss the stock jacksons for certain tones.
Both are different. In fact if i had two of these one with stocks an oen with invaders, i'd probably use both to double/quadtrack guitar - the originals stock have less low end and more bite. However for the lead parts the invaders have the edge, we can see the harmnics of the notes your playing on the graph, ouuuh baby. hehe
Invaders were definitely more balanced with distortion, not as bass heavy as the Jackons which made it sound muddy. Love the enhanced bass on the cleans thought, really nice overall.👌Very informative review!
Thank you very much, Raven! I sold my Invader, though, I wanted a punchier sound, better attack, now my JS227 has two Duncan Solars, which are similar to a tweaked '59 and a tweaked custom 5. I recorded a comparison video here: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html
Invader SH-8B vs Solar: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html 00:19 Exterior comparison 01:20 Jackson stock with backing track 04:05 Invader SH-8B with backing track 06:50 Jackson stock guitars only 09:34 Invader SH-8B guitars only 12:18 My new album
Indeed it looks amazing! Too much low end for my taste. I recently bought an used Jackson KE3 and it has two Duncan Designed Detonators humbuckers, which look like an Invader, but plays like a Distortion
Oh thank you bro! It's an absolutely great 7 string guitar for the price! Don't expect extremely high quality and consider changing the pickups/tuners, but very good 7 string for starters (at least for me!)
Nice video.. It's more interesting if you put the Jackson stock pickups in the bridge position too.. Because it's big difference when you put it on neck position... It's has different story...
Looking to upgrade to a Seymour Duncan Pegasus in the bridge, I’ve heard they should fit fine as it is but I wanna make sure before I buy. Did you have to do any additional routing or anything to make them fit?
@@onionheadguy7094 Hi! Well any new pickup combination will be better than the original Jacksons 🙂. It's up to you, I suggest you to listen to some tests on the seymour duncan or di Marzio website. Invaders are nice, but very boomy in the low ends. I prefer Custom 5 more. Thank you very much for commenting
Invader are way better but jackson stock are very good for what they are they put jackson stock pick ups in their 159.00 js 11 for crying out loud. It's a whole guitar for what Seymour Duncan invader pick ups cost for one pair. It's like comparing a Chevy corvette to a Chevy chevette
I'm not an expert but imho I seriously don't think the Jacksons were wired, setup, and/or toned in right(I'm guessing straight from the factory). I know there can be some distinct differences between pickups but the differences shouldn't be THAT extreme. Pickups are usually really simple and as long as your base components are of at least decent quality you should be able to crank out some good sound. But hey, I could be wrong.
Hello Leet 🧇! Yes maybe they weren't properly setup from the factory, we're talking about the lowest end 7 string guitar Jackson produces, so it's totally possible! Thanks for commenting, I'm selling those pickups if anybody is interested!
Hey man! 99% of the time I'm using .022 microfarads, since I'm always playing guitars equipped with humbuckers, so I'll get a brighter sound because of the higher cutoff of the frequencies! Feel free to experiment, though, some people like to use .033 uF, since they are somewhere in between .022 uF and .047 uF!
I was a Invader user for 3years... it's a really good pickup. But there were some issue with clean channel ( Like really clean ). The only thing was biting me was clean channel... tough it was a good clean tone but I wanted that to be more clean... Now I've switched to Fishman Fluence Modern man this pups are really good... I've tried many other pickups... In my list For clean there would be PRS stock pickups, Strat Pickups and FF modern. for drity I would like Invader, FFM,
Hello, the sound improvement this guitar had with the bridge Invader installed was huge, but it definitely had too much output for my style, too boomy low end, especially while palm muting fast. In the end, I sold it and replaced it with Duncan Solar!
Hello! It doesn't really depend on the guitar you play, it's definitely more a matter of using medium/high output pickups and particular gear. For example, here I'm mimicking Kill'em all's tone with a Solar and free plugins ua-cam.com/video/S8s6cabHH2A/v-deo.html However, Jackson guitars, especially the JS32 series, will do the trick
@@AleArzMusic i will buy marshall mg15cfx amp with it that’s it my gear is limited! So i meant for a 450$ guitar if it will give metal sound as expected! (with free software like amplitube) Thanks though keep rockin’🤘🤘
Alright. The Marshall you described is a small compact amp, so it may not be the best solution if you want to try to emulate Metallica's tone (they used both JCM800 and Mesa Boogies Dual Rectifiers). But, with amp sims like Amplitube, it will just work fine. You can upgrade the Dinky JS32Q with some original Seymour Duncan pickups, to get even more good tone out of your guitar
Js 32 are good for metallica stuff but. Jackson stock pick ups are average metal pick ups with a set of Seymour Duncan or EMG Pick ups would be a better upgrade for getting metallica sounds. Jackson stock pick ups are great for getting the sound almost to a metallica type tone.
Hello Chad! No, I didn't need to do any mod, the Invader fits exactly like any other humbucker pickup with a mounting ring. I sold it now, though, you can see my latest comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html and how I changed it physically here: ua-cam.com/video/gwT-gWrIOok/v-deo.html
2 of my guitar using invader,i put it on my Jackson Js22 With stainless steel jumbo fret,the sound is very2 nice no word i can say,i'm so happy With it...🤟
Did u have to do any custom fitting to get them to go in? I noticed the video u committed on with the guy that installed the bare knuckles he had to get it routed.
Hi Brandon! Well, to my own experience not that much. Invaders are perfect for 7-8 strings and/or down tuned 6 string guitars, but to me there too much boomy and high output. I prefer medium output pickups.
I got the same guitar yesterday and was looking to see if I could find some better pickups, so I looked up some options and the invaders are sick as far as I’ve seen, I’ve thought about getting them in white
can be heard a lot of improvement with the invader, i just installed a distortion in my js22 7 but it sounds almost the same! i don't know if i've done some bad shit in there but it can't be because the distortion is much brighter than the stock bridge...
I feel like you didn’t eq very well on the jacksons. They are a bit muddy but I’ve heard very well defined tones from these pickup from other videos. Maybe compare each pickup at their best eq settings.
Hey man, the purpose of the video was mainly to hear how they sounded right off the bat, I added no EQ on purpose, just the same settings with a very common amp sim! Yo!!
The invader kills on the cleans, and is tighter/punchier on the distorted parts.
Agreed. It had a lot of boomy lows, though, I replaced it with a pair of Duncan Solars (thanks to Marko Makinen)
New comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html
Amazing how much tighter and cleaner your playing sounds with the invaders.
Thank you! I actually sold it, now it's got Duncan Solars installed, less boomy sounds
@@AleArzMusic nice, do they sell them in 8's by any chance?
Yes, sure, you have both active and passive 8 string SD Invaders, just check their website! 👍👍 As for the Duncan Solars, no, they only come with Solar guitars. I got mine from a used one (the guitarist from the Finnish band Bloody Falls)
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Invader SH-8B vs Solar: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html
00:19 Exterior comparison
01:20 Jackson stock with backing track
04:05 Invader SH-8B with backing track
06:50 Jackson stock guitars only
09:34 Invader SH-8B guitars only
12:18 My new album
I don't think one is better than the other. Both have a distinctive sound. I put black winters in my v and sometimes miss the stock jacksons for certain tones.
Thank you very much for commenting!
I know exactly watcha mean
Thank you
Both are different. In fact if i had two of these one with stocks an oen with invaders, i'd probably use both to double/quadtrack guitar - the originals stock have less low end and more bite. However for the lead parts the invaders have the edge, we can see the harmnics of the notes your playing on the graph, ouuuh baby. hehe
Thank you very much
Invaders were definitely more balanced with distortion, not as bass heavy as the Jackons which made it sound muddy. Love the enhanced bass on the cleans thought, really nice overall.👌Very informative review!
Thank you very much, Raven! I sold my Invader, though, I wanted a punchier sound, better attack, now my JS227 has two Duncan Solars, which are similar to a tweaked '59 and a tweaked custom 5. I recorded a comparison video here: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html
Invader SH-8B vs Solar: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html
00:19 Exterior comparison
01:20 Jackson stock with backing track
04:05 Invader SH-8B with backing track
06:50 Jackson stock guitars only
09:34 Invader SH-8B guitars only
12:18 My new album
The invaders alot more defined. I have a bridge invader and love it!! Highly recommend.
@@darthj_der7447 thank you very much. Please consider subscribing to my channel for free, it really helps me to make better content.
Ah that invader crushes!!! Very nice work sir.
Thank you, man! Would you change that Invader pickup to a Duncan distortion?
ua-cam.com/video/1JdbsX2b2t4/v-deo.html
@@AleArzMusic well lets check that out! Subbed 👍😐👍
Thank you so much 👍🙂
That invader is BADASS
Indeed it looks amazing! Too much low end for my taste. I recently bought an used Jackson KE3 and it has two Duncan Designed Detonators humbuckers, which look like an Invader, but plays like a Distortion
This was a good video!
Also thanks for the review on the js22-7, I was looking for information because I want to get one soon
Oh thank you bro! It's an absolutely great 7 string guitar for the price! Don't expect extremely high quality and consider changing the pickups/tuners, but very good 7 string for starters (at least for me!)
Nice video.. It's more interesting if you put the Jackson stock pickups in the bridge position too.. Because it's big difference when you put it on neck position... It's has different story...
Next video will be about it! Thank you very much for commenting and watching my channel!
In my Jackson rr flying v I have the same set up invader bridge and Jackson neck
I love the sound :)
Thank you! It's definitely a good choice!
@@AleArzMusic I like your vidoe to btw keep rocking
Thank you again! Stay tuned, I've got a RR3 Crimson Swirl video coming
Looking to upgrade to a Seymour Duncan Pegasus in the bridge, I’ve heard they should fit fine as it is but I wanna make sure before I buy. Did you have to do any additional routing or anything to make them fit?
Hi, no, absolutely no routings to install those pickups. The only thing that could not match may be the new pickup screws into the old mounting rings
I'm thinking of doing the same thing! I got that 200 dollar 7 string from jackson but it was only 150. Maybe I should just get an invader?
@@onionheadguy7094 Hi! Well any new pickup combination will be better than the original Jacksons 🙂. It's up to you, I suggest you to listen to some tests on the seymour duncan or di Marzio website. Invaders are nice, but very boomy in the low ends. I prefer Custom 5 more. Thank you very much for commenting
@@AleArzMusic thanks man!
Thank you!
Invader are way better but jackson stock are very good for what they are they put jackson stock pick ups in their 159.00 js 11 for crying out loud. It's a whole guitar for what Seymour Duncan invader pick ups cost for one pair. It's like comparing a Chevy corvette to a Chevy chevette
Thank you very much!
I definetly like the Jackson pickups in this guitar! They are fuller, and with more harmonic content. Sh8 gets a dislike this time 😜
Thank you!
@@AleArzMusic thanks for you videos man!
@@victorradu7874 you're welcome bro
hallo buddy, ypu still using this pickups? does this pickups really great and tight for very low tuning?
Hi, I sold the guitar years ago after refinishing it green. Pick-up wasn't good for right chugs. Better a custom 5
I'm not an expert but imho I seriously don't think the Jacksons were wired, setup, and/or toned in right(I'm guessing straight from the factory). I know there can be some distinct differences between pickups but the differences shouldn't be THAT extreme. Pickups are usually really simple and as long as your base components are of at least decent quality you should be able to crank out some good sound. But hey, I could be wrong.
Hello Leet 🧇! Yes maybe they weren't properly setup from the factory, we're talking about the lowest end 7 string guitar Jackson produces, so it's totally possible! Thanks for commenting, I'm selling those pickups if anybody is interested!
What capacitor did you use on both?
Hey man! 99% of the time I'm using .022 microfarads, since I'm always playing guitars equipped with humbuckers, so I'll get a brighter sound because of the higher cutoff of the frequencies! Feel free to experiment, though, some people like to use .033 uF, since they are somewhere in between .022 uF and .047 uF!
I was a Invader user for 3years... it's a really good pickup. But there were some issue with clean channel ( Like really clean ). The only thing was biting me was clean channel... tough it was a good clean tone but I wanted that to be more clean... Now I've switched to Fishman Fluence Modern man this pups are really good... I've tried many other pickups... In my list For clean there would be PRS stock pickups, Strat Pickups and FF modern. for drity I would like Invader, FFM,
Hello, the sound improvement this guitar had with the bridge Invader installed was huge, but it definitely had too much output for my style, too boomy low end, especially while palm muting fast. In the end, I sold it and replaced it with Duncan Solar!
I also have this guitar but it has the soapbars jackson pickups in it any recommendations for swapping it out
I'd say Seymour Duncan Invaders
Ever tried Pegasus Sentient or Hot Rodded ones? :P
I would really really love to try that combination, I'm looking for used ones since a long time now haha
Black winter neck
Invader Bridge...🤟
Ohh yeah thank you bro
I love my jackson black out pickups
Thank you very much
You should do a similar comparison between the Invader and the DiMarzio Super Distortion.
Thank you very much for the idea. Will do
@@AleArzMusic Awesome!
@@lucwilson1 thanks for the hint
Hey man!! Should i buy jackson js32q for metallica songs?
Hello! It doesn't really depend on the guitar you play, it's definitely more a matter of using medium/high output pickups and particular gear.
For example, here I'm mimicking Kill'em all's tone with a Solar and free plugins
ua-cam.com/video/S8s6cabHH2A/v-deo.html
However, Jackson guitars, especially the JS32 series, will do the trick
@@AleArzMusic i will buy marshall mg15cfx amp with it that’s it my gear is limited! So i meant for a 450$ guitar if it will give metal sound as expected! (with free software like amplitube) Thanks though keep rockin’🤘🤘
Alright. The Marshall you described is a small compact amp, so it may not be the best solution if you want to try to emulate Metallica's tone (they used both JCM800 and Mesa Boogies Dual Rectifiers).
But, with amp sims like Amplitube, it will just work fine. You can upgrade the Dinky JS32Q with some original Seymour Duncan pickups, to get even more good tone out of your guitar
Js 32 are good for metallica stuff but. Jackson stock pick ups are average metal pick ups with a set of Seymour Duncan or EMG Pick ups would be a better upgrade for getting metallica sounds. Jackson stock pick ups are great for getting the sound almost to a metallica type tone.
Definitely agreed. Nothing better than a pair of Seymour Duncan humbuckers, imho
Yo we got the same guitar
Hi bro! Great deal for the price
I prefer jackson stock pickup, to me jackson pickup wins
Thanks
@@AleArzMusic you're welcome :)
👍👍👍
Oh yeah
Did you have to do any modifications to put the invader in?
Hello Chad! No, I didn't need to do any mod, the Invader fits exactly like any other humbucker pickup with a mounting ring.
I sold it now, though, you can see my latest comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/2w3nm75XbBg/v-deo.html
and how I changed it physically here: ua-cam.com/video/gwT-gWrIOok/v-deo.html
Ok cool
I wasn't expecting the difference to be that large. Never a huge fan of the regular invaders but the 7 string version sounds a lot better I feel like
Thank you, I didn't like them either
Could you do a comparison with the invaders and Dimebucker? Can't find any videos on the comparison.
Thanks for the idea, will do
2 of my guitar using invader,i put it on my Jackson Js22 With stainless steel jumbo fret,the sound is very2 nice no word i can say,i'm so happy With it...🤟
Thank you very much for sharing
Tuning?
Hello man! I'm pretty sure it was a standard tuning for 7 strings guitar, so: e b g d a e b
What is this song? First clean riff
Hi, I still haven't named it, as it's part of a bigger project. Technically, it's riff #355, though 🙃
@@AleArzMusic need tabZ pls,it is wonderful
Oh it's much easier than you think, you'll get it by ear in 10 minutes
that Invader tone is fucking perfect for distortion , I could listen to those bottom end riffs, and soaring leads all day
It's a great pickup for this kind of tones
Did u have to do any custom fitting to get them to go in? I noticed the video u committed on with the guy that installed the bare knuckles he had to get it routed.
No they went perfectly in.
Are they versatile?
Hi Brandon! Well, to my own experience not that much. Invaders are perfect for 7-8 strings and/or down tuned 6 string guitars, but to me there too much boomy and high output. I prefer medium output pickups.
@@AleArzMusic thanks for the reply! They sound great for the stuff you're playing. Cheers.
Thank you very much! Stay tuned for upcoming videos
Dude, the difference is night and day. I dig that!
Thank you
Great stuff Alessandro!
Thank you bro! Glad you enjoyed the show 🙂🍿
muy buena comparacion, gracias por compartir
Thank you
I got the same guitar yesterday and was looking to see if I could find some better pickups, so I looked up some options and the invaders are sick as far as I’ve seen, I’ve thought about getting them in white
Good idea bro. Did they sound good?
I like the sound of ‘em, they sound a bit brighter and for my set up that’s a plus
Thank you very much
The invader leads alone are so tight
Thank you very much
Invaders ftw!!
Oh yeah
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Thanks
@AleArzMusic No problem man! I did this to about 100 videos haha!
@@albinoslug5594 ohhh thanks
Nice playing
Thank you very much
can be heard a lot of improvement with the invader, i just installed a distortion in my js22 7 but it sounds almost the same! i don't know if i've done some bad shit in there but it can't be because the distortion is much brighter than the stock bridge...
Did you install the Duncan distortion standard? Or some other one? Maybe double check the wirings
@@AleArzMusic it is the sh-6
@@MrMusicopath Yeah they have similar voice, you didn't install them wrong
Yeah
Sorry but the Jackson have so much more presence in the mix ! The invader is more modern , but is less dinamic ! I prefer the Jackson !
Thanks for commenting! Funny enough, I hear the opposite: stock Jackson very dark and muddy, Invader cutting through other instruments.
You gotta be the only one to feel this way wooooooow cause Jackson stock pickups are turd juice compared to any Seymour Duncan pickup to each is own
lol really? the jacksons are completely gone in the mix.
I feel like you didn’t eq very well on the jacksons. They are a bit muddy but I’ve heard very well defined tones from these pickup from other videos. Maybe compare each pickup at their best eq settings.
Hey man, the purpose of the video was mainly to hear how they sounded right off the bat, I added no EQ on purpose, just the same settings with a very common amp sim! Yo!!