I just love this video and the comments, and the link in one of the replies to a Russian video which shows the exact same approach but a handsaw rather then an angle grinder so it can be siliconed back together. My only advice is to stick the screws in a piece of card and label them, so you don't have to re-watch your video to find out which screws go where. Keep it up guys - your attitude and determination is impeccable !
Great vid. To see you two finding your way through it is so helpful and entertaining and it will hopefully ensure you make any mistakes before I do. I paused it at the point you were about to extract the drum and I'll return in a bit to see how it all goes back together. Thanks fellas. I reckon you saved me from some dramas... I'll let you know soon enough lol
So,. I had the same problem. Used this video as a guideline! And I have 2 say,. Not all of them are plastic welded shut. Mine could be opened through the middle by just getting about 15 screws out of it. Lucky me, mine is fixable. So the bearing kits are usable for some AEG machines 😊
There is a way to split the plastic drum and silicone it back togeather. Drill some holes for screws (& nuts) in the ear sections which are thicker on the same area all around where it has been plastic welded. With a precision saw cut the drum open from where it is platic welded making sure you are cutting it flat and clean as have to put it back togeather. Replace the Y frame or bearing which ever seems to be the problem. Then apply silicone sealant on the face that you have sawed off, join the plastic drum and screw it togeather with suitable screws and nut in the location where holes were drilled. Let it dry over night and check it for any leaks the next day before putting it back in to the machine. Seen it done in other brands of machine where the drum is plastic welded.
Thanks! I was about to embark on a mission to replace the bearings on my AEG with all the noise it’s making (sounds like an F16 about to take off!) but it looks like a new machine is in order 😖 so wasteful! But thanks for saving me the time!
I recently had also a bearing failure in an AEG top loader. For some reason they use replaceable bearings on those. The root cause was an axle gasket failing which allowed water through the bearing rinsing all the greases off of the bearing and subsequent rust build-up. The machine is 3 years old. AEG provided new bearings as a goodwill but I needed to pay for the change.
Great job guys. I can relate to your statement: we don't like it if we can't fix it, so we destroy it. I think I have the same issue. The drum is loose. According to your video it seems my year started out nice. NOT
I had the bearings go on one of these and yes, the whole drum had to be replaced. Fortunately they'd thrown in a 5 year extended warranty when i bought it!
Exactly the same problem on our 5 year old lavamat what an absolute joke. AEG designers you need to have a long hard look in the mirror, this is mid 20th century mentality. I'm buying Beko from now on, at least you know what you are getting not some overpriced piece of kitchen fluff! Thanks though guys, saved me taking the same journey on a Sunday, off to the beach with the kids instead 👍👍
Always easier to take bits off then put back.Replacing that seal looked a nightmare.I ve got the same machine and it saved me a long time and frustration taking it all apart. As you say it was destined for the dump after the first five mins so had a bit of fun ripping it all apart .Least I know now why mines knocking and shaking on a spin .
Well not sure what you guys done wrong but I have same machine leaked water out through bearing I removed drum undone all the screws and replaced bearings and reassembled job done working fine e after replacing bearings I drum and the motors bearings. All in all a very fine washing machine fixable easily done.
I asked the company service via email whether a replacement bearing is available, and they answered very quick that the whole drum must be exchanged. On some internet stores the drum is cheaper that at the AEG site. In my case 150 Euros instead of 250.
Apart from the soap drawer and front control panel that AEG machine is exactly the same as our Zanussi machine that l have just dismantled for drum bearing failure. The drum is definitely sealed, the central circumferential joint flange is welded. Although the flange could be split by carefully sawing round it l would seriously question if it could be resealed adequately. This means the drum front bearing, the one that fails, cannot be accessed for replacement. Interestingly our machine lasted for 15 years before bearing failure, so not too bad. A complete replacement drum with new bearings etc is about £225 so not really worth it given the cost of new machines. Our machine went to the tip.
I own a Miele hope is not as difficult to fix at least you tried good vid I had a similar prob is a Wilkins Service one of support arms broke I was able to fix it, however one day it let out a loud bang and never went again.
Depends on what Miele. If it's W1 9kg you have a stainless drum, easy to fix. W1 7kg and some 8kg use plastic which is welded, but most 8kg are stainless too. Most other brands have plastic with screws, not welded, it really depends on model.
U can bye a new sealant drum on their company page. Only the expensive version has a bearing that can be changed separately . New Drum is about 200-250 euros
The AEG is an expensive label on a cheap product, better off buying the half the price, identical apart from the label electrolux. The piss poor bearings and from this video piss poor drum manufacture are just part of the cheap and nasty reality of this machine. Mine was junk after just 6 years of 3 washes a week because of this drum (a replacement costs as much as a new electrolux). Frankly will steer well clear of this companies (groups) products in future
Dave Hitchman My aeg is 15 years old. I replaced myself the belt, a two door handles. We make at least 6 uses every week. Never overcharge it, a vinegar cleaning every momth. I expect it to last another 5 years.
@@honestguy7764 Wright!Oldies but goldie's!Unfortunately today everything it is made just for consuming!Days ago a replaced control board of my aeg 10 old.OMG looks like new!A piece of war!Today you'l buy only new crap!
You can cut these in the seem and use gorilla glue and bolts to re-seal em…ask me how I know.I cut mine by hand….small pull saw.That’s my workout for the year done.
once you take of the top its clear that it is a sealt tube ant the movement of the drum tels you its broken of no need for al the time they put in it,but it was an entertaining video nevertheless
Is this actually true for all AEG Lavamat washing machines? Because if I look from the lop down in my washing machine, it does not seem to be the same. It is not sealed in plastic. Lavamat W 1230, about 20 years old.
Exactly the same problem on my machine 3 yrs old with just 2 in the family this is not quality machine but had a high price. Avoid AEG if all there products are this bad.
comment and a like for the youtube algo. only needed to figure out how to remove the rubber seal and this was hugely helpful BUT add another vote for right to repair, especially with large white goods. So hugely wasteful just to line pockets of company directors
Moral of the story? Don't overfill your washing machine. People seem to think if it can go in, it's not too full. Fill a drum with towels, and this is the longterm expected result.
@@L663 I suspect this isn't a 'typical' problem. You are right about the bearings in your car, but the pressure on them is direct. To make the same comparison you'd need to have wide spacers on each wheel hub, with 14" wheels and tyres, so the forces on the wheel bearing make them act as a fulcrum. With setups like this, even wheel bearings expected to see 40,000 miles of use, will fail early. But the bearings in the machine were reported as 'okay' I thought? The problem appears to have been stress fractures in the bearing hub webbing to the drum. This suggests (only suggests mind) the drum was periodically (so not regular enough to damage the bearings) subject to severe forces (meaning unexpected - outside the design weight) that tried to 'bend' the drum off the bearing hub. That is pretty much defined by lots of heavy towelling. As to why design/use a drum manufacturing technique that can't be serviced? As the bearing can be serviced, I'd say the design works and allows all the usual maintenance necessary (meaning 'expected' maintenance of course). The problem you show, the fracture of the hub, looks like metal fatigue induced by "out of limits" wet weight in the drum. Or periodic heavy use outside the expected life of the drum. (Used for longer than expected. Say 12 years not 10.) Aircraft are designed for and often 'retired' after an expected service life of 20 years. Sometimes they don't reach that age because of an event outside the design envelope, despite the design being over-engineered to accommodate the 'unexpected'. Everyday machines are overengineered too, but not by such a great margin as aircraft. Washing machines are, after all, a consumer product. They are expected to have a finite life. They might last 20 years, but are probably only expected to see a 10 year working life. Rotten seals, limescale filled waterways/biological growths in water ways/failed water heaters/failed electronics, are probably the usual reasons for retirement. People don't expect these things to be serviced any longer - at all. The call-out charges and parts costs make it cheaper to replace the machine.
You can't blame people from stuffing up their washing machine when it's advertised to take 7-8KG of dry clothes. If you were to visualize that amount of clothes, you'd be surprised how much that actually us. Also, this is a spider failure due to corrosion. Corrosion is caused by sludge buildup, because people only wash at 30 or 40 degrees with too much liquid detergent and fabric softener. Use power detergent and 60 degrees with no softener regularly, leave the door open after use and the spider will never corrode like that.
Also this is not bearing failure. This is corrosion and subsequent failure of the drum spider, which is caused by poor (deliberate?) design decisions by the manufacturer. Yes, a lot of folk overfill their machine, but in this case that's not the cause of this failure.
Washing machines are only fitted with a 1000rpm bearing, no matter what spin speed you buy ,the engineer told me this ,they are made to fail ,its call sales lol
I just hate how they "tried" to fix it when you can just buy a new drum instead of wasting your time opening the drum, or you can just buy a new washer instead of this cheap looking washer.
Same as above. Saved me the effort of a strip down. Appreciate the time you guys put in.
I just love this video and the comments, and the link in one of the replies to a Russian video which shows the exact same approach but a handsaw rather then an angle grinder so it can be siliconed back together. My only advice is to stick the screws in a piece of card and label them, so you don't have to re-watch your video to find out which screws go where. Keep it up guys - your attitude and determination is impeccable !
This is the kind of stripdown i like. Exactly the little problems and hassles i always run into.
Great vid. To see you two finding your way through it is so helpful and entertaining and it will hopefully ensure you make any mistakes before I do. I paused it at the point you were about to extract the drum and I'll return in a bit to see how it all goes back together. Thanks fellas. I reckon you saved me from some dramas... I'll let you know soon enough lol
Thanks a lot! I didn't understand much of what you said, but everthing you did. Greetings from Berlin!
Thanks - to be honest most UK people cant understand me either....!
Thanks fellas just saved me a load of time, ours has exactly same fault, so new machine ordered!
Hi! After how many years of duty yours failed?
So,. I had the same problem.
Used this video as a guideline!
And I have 2 say,. Not all of them are plastic welded shut.
Mine could be opened through the middle by just getting about 15 screws out of it.
Lucky me, mine is fixable.
So the bearing kits are usable for some AEG machines 😊
There is a way to split the plastic drum and silicone it back togeather. Drill some holes for screws (& nuts) in the ear sections which are thicker on the same area all around where it has been plastic welded. With a precision saw cut the drum open from where it is platic welded making sure you are cutting it flat and clean as have to put it back togeather. Replace the Y frame or bearing which ever seems to be the problem. Then apply silicone sealant on the face that you have sawed off, join the plastic drum and screw it togeather with suitable screws and nut in the location where holes were drilled. Let it dry over night and check it for any leaks the next day before putting it back in to the machine. Seen it done in other brands of machine where the drum is plastic welded.
Thanks! I was about to embark on a mission to replace the bearings on my AEG with all the noise it’s making (sounds like an F16 about to take off!) but it looks like a new machine is in order 😖 so wasteful! But thanks for saving me the time!
I recently had also a bearing failure in an AEG top loader. For some reason they use replaceable bearings on those. The root cause was an axle gasket failing which allowed water through the bearing rinsing all the greases off of the bearing and subsequent rust build-up. The machine is 3 years old. AEG provided new bearings as a goodwill but I needed to pay for the change.
That was a nice gesture from aeg
Great job guys. I can relate to your statement: we don't like it if we can't fix it, so we destroy it. I think I have the same issue. The drum is loose. According to your video it seems my year started out nice. NOT
Just saved us a day of working on ours, thanks!
I had the bearings go on one of these and yes, the whole drum had to be replaced. Fortunately they'd thrown in a 5 year extended warranty when i bought it!
Result !
Exactly the same problem on our 5 year old lavamat what an absolute joke. AEG designers you need to have a long hard look in the mirror, this is mid 20th century mentality. I'm buying Beko from now on, at least you know what you are getting not some overpriced piece of kitchen fluff! Thanks though guys, saved me taking the same journey on a Sunday, off to the beach with the kids instead 👍👍
Always easier to take bits off then put back.Replacing that seal looked a nightmare.I ve got the same machine and it saved me a long time and frustration taking it all apart. As you say it was destined for the dump after the first five mins so had a bit of fun ripping it all apart .Least I know now why mines knocking and shaking on a spin .
Well not sure what you guys done wrong but I have same machine leaked water out through bearing I removed drum undone all the screws and replaced bearings and reassembled job done working fine e after replacing bearings I drum and the motors bearings. All in all a very fine washing machine fixable easily done.
Replacing the DRUM of a washing machine: “right turns out it’s a total strip down.” 😂😂😂
Thank you very much!! greetings from Belgium
I used to work in Belgium a lot - many nice evenings drinking Belgium beer !
I asked the company service via email whether a replacement bearing is available, and they answered very quick that the whole drum must be exchanged. On some internet stores the drum is cheaper that at the AEG site. In my case 150 Euros instead of 250.
Apart from the soap drawer and front control panel that AEG machine is exactly the same as our Zanussi machine that l have just dismantled for drum bearing failure. The drum is definitely sealed, the central circumferential joint flange is welded. Although the flange could be split by carefully sawing round it l would seriously question if it could be resealed adequately. This means the drum front bearing, the one that fails, cannot be accessed for replacement.
Interestingly our machine lasted for 15 years before bearing failure, so not too bad.
A complete replacement drum with new bearings etc is about £225 so not really worth it given the cost of new machines.
Our machine went to the tip.
I own a Miele hope is not as difficult to fix at least you tried good vid I had a similar prob is a Wilkins Service one of support arms broke I was able to fix it, however one day it let out a loud bang and never went again.
Depends on what Miele. If it's W1 9kg you have a stainless drum, easy to fix. W1 7kg and some 8kg use plastic which is welded, but most 8kg are stainless too. Most other brands have plastic with screws, not welded, it really depends on model.
U can bye a new sealant drum on their company page.
Only the expensive version has a bearing that can be changed separately .
New Drum is about 200-250 euros
@@tolgaturhan2069 they have asealed drums so you have to replace the whole drum
I wonder if you could cut the drum shell with a heated wire, and then seal it back up with some silicone filler
And so back to earth with a bang !!
The AEG is an expensive label on a cheap product, better off buying the half the price, identical apart from the label electrolux. The piss poor bearings and from this video piss poor drum manufacture are just part of the cheap and nasty reality of this machine. Mine was junk after just 6 years of 3 washes a week because of this drum (a replacement costs as much as a new electrolux). Frankly will steer well clear of this companies (groups) products in future
Dave Hitchman My aeg is 15 years old. I replaced myself the belt, a two door handles. We make at least 6 uses every week. Never overcharge it, a vinegar cleaning every momth. I expect it to last another 5 years.
@@honestguy7764 Wright!Oldies but goldie's!Unfortunately today everything it is made just for consuming!Days ago a replaced control board of my aeg 10 old.OMG looks like new!A piece of war!Today you'l buy only new crap!
No, This AEG lasts 10 years -> 6000 operating hours. Very good quality. Better then you think
Great job
Anyway, the old drum looks quite dirty. Exchanging it would have also hygienical advantages.
You can saw it open and glue it. Never seen a plastic pulley before though wtf.
I like this video. No pretensions. Thanks for sharing! But keep safe by wearing gloves. :)
Nevertheless, one can exchange the whole drum. Which still might be cheaper than a new machine.
You can cut these in the seem and use gorilla glue and bolts to re-seal em…ask me how I know.I cut mine by hand….small pull saw.That’s my workout for the year done.
once you take of the top its clear that it is a sealt tube ant the movement of the drum tels you its broken of no need for al the time they put in it,but it was an entertaining video nevertheless
Do you know what the drum capacity in L this machine has?
I was wanting to know how to open the bottom but that was the only side of the machine you did not open 🤓.
They seal it so you won't be able to repair it!
Se quita perfectamente.Yo tengo esa lavadora y va con tornillos
Is this actually true for all AEG Lavamat washing machines? Because if I look from the lop down in my washing machine, it does not seem to be the same. It is not sealed in plastic. Lavamat W 1230, about 20 years old.
Older machines don't have sealed drums, they are more easy to service. But most machines made in the last 10 years unfortunately have sealed drums
In my experience AEG are really not worth it. Expensive and crap.
Ich have a very similar model, but the drum does not seems not to be sealed.
Rompieron la cuba de plástico.Por no quitar los tornillos😂
Esa Lavadora no viene pegada.Tengo una igual.El problema lo han tenido por qué no saben quitar la tapadera que cubre el rodamiento interior
My problem exactly 😂
That's the spider
their attempt is wrong in so many levels...
Exactly the same problem on my machine 3 yrs old with just 2 in the family this is not quality machine but had a high price. Avoid AEG if all there products are this bad.
My Indesit is the same. Sealed drum.
Can u give me the part number of the washing machine?
Sorry i dont know !
comment and a like for the youtube algo. only needed to figure out how to remove the rubber seal and this was hugely helpful BUT add another vote for right to repair, especially with large white goods. So hugely wasteful just to line pockets of company directors
It's not like this to open it
Could you please tell me how to get the powder tray out without dismantling the machine? Just to wash it?
Sorry we do not have machine anymore !
well tomorrow afternoon planed
Haha do a freelander 1
Uhm, you can replace the bearings in a sealed tub easyly...
Go on then, enlighten us
Yeah, that really calls for some enlightenment!
@@kimgosmer9296 Not easy , but not very difficult . ua-cam.com/video/ov-d_5y_Ml8/v-deo.html
It can be done, sure, but easily? Lmao, absolutely not.
Moral of the story? Don't overfill your washing machine. People seem to think if it can go in, it's not too full. Fill a drum with towels, and this is the longterm expected result.
I sort of see your point but
1 - the bearings on my car take tonnes every day - no problems
2 - why design a machine that cannot be repaired....
@@L663 I suspect this isn't a 'typical' problem. You are right about the bearings in your car, but the pressure on them is direct. To make the same comparison you'd need to have wide spacers on each wheel hub, with 14" wheels and tyres, so the forces on the wheel bearing make them act as a fulcrum. With setups like this, even wheel bearings expected to see 40,000 miles of use, will fail early. But the bearings in the machine were reported as 'okay' I thought? The problem appears to have been stress fractures in the bearing hub webbing to the drum. This suggests (only suggests mind) the drum was periodically (so not regular enough to damage the bearings) subject to severe forces (meaning unexpected - outside the design weight) that tried to 'bend' the drum off the bearing hub. That is pretty much defined by lots of heavy towelling.
As to why design/use a drum manufacturing technique that can't be serviced? As the bearing can be serviced, I'd say the design works and allows all the usual maintenance necessary (meaning 'expected' maintenance of course). The problem you show, the fracture of the hub, looks like metal fatigue induced by "out of limits" wet weight in the drum. Or periodic heavy use outside the expected life of the drum. (Used for longer than expected. Say 12 years not 10.) Aircraft are designed for and often 'retired' after an expected service life of 20 years. Sometimes they don't reach that age because of an event outside the design envelope, despite the design being over-engineered to accommodate the 'unexpected'. Everyday machines are overengineered too, but not by such a great margin as aircraft. Washing machines are, after all, a consumer product. They are expected to have a finite life. They might last 20 years, but are probably only expected to see a 10 year working life. Rotten seals, limescale filled waterways/biological growths in water ways/failed water heaters/failed electronics, are probably the usual reasons for retirement. People don't expect these things to be serviced any longer - at all. The call-out charges and parts costs make it cheaper to replace the machine.
You can't blame people from stuffing up their washing machine when it's advertised to take 7-8KG of dry clothes. If you were to visualize that amount of clothes, you'd be surprised how much that actually us. Also, this is a spider failure due to corrosion. Corrosion is caused by sludge buildup, because people only wash at 30 or 40 degrees with too much liquid detergent and fabric softener. Use power detergent and 60 degrees with no softener regularly, leave the door open after use and the spider will never corrode like that.
Also this is not bearing failure. This is corrosion and subsequent failure of the drum spider, which is caused by poor (deliberate?) design decisions by the manufacturer. Yes, a lot of folk overfill their machine, but in this case that's not the cause of this failure.
Washing machines are only fitted with a 1000rpm bearing, no matter what spin speed you buy ,the engineer told me this ,they are made to fail ,its call sales lol
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I know - its not car related... but just to show we have to do mundane stuff too...
I just hate how they "tried" to fix it when you can just buy a new drum instead of wasting your time opening the drum, or you can just buy a new washer instead of this cheap looking washer.
Me too !