1996 Saab 9000 CSE 2.3 Turbo Review (550 miles later) - Buy it, Try it, Sell it with Geoff Buys Cars
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- I drove my Saab 9-5 Estate to Glasgow then got a train to Inverness and came home in this bad boy... my Saab 9000 2.3 Turbo. Here's the review.
Geoff Buys Cars is an automotive adventure through old cars. I buy cars to review for UA-cam, then sell them on. Sometimes I make a profit and document the journey, sometimes I give them away in £10 ‘Geoff Specials’. It started with a canoe and it’s taken every possible diversion, but i’ll get to that Porsche eventually… Right now I’m just enjoying all these old cars, it’s gotten to be a bit like Pokemon. Gotta catch ‘em all! Seen a potential Geoff car? Get in touch, I’ll buy it.
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You buy a saab 9000 you instantly fall in love with it. It happened to me too
One of the best cars ever made!
Y E S it is .. and just few know about it
Definetely
A 1992 SAAB 9000 CS owner here. Just the natural aspirated B234I which is more than enough for a daily driver. Just great cars. Keep them on the road.
I had a 9000 in school. Absolutely loved it. Was fast. Sleek. Never broke down. I had it maintained at a Swedish motor car shop. The owner of the shop said if I ever sell it, let him know. So when I finished school, I sold it to the owner. Still has it to this day.
Swedish Saab, manufactured in Finland (Uusikaupunki, Valmet automotive). During the development of the Saab 9000 in Finland, a V8 engine was secretly planned for it (it was also possible to get it with twin turbos) and, as I recall, 5 prototypes were produced, of which, as far as I know, only one remains in their own car museum. WHAT A BEAST!!!
The same factory also produced the legendary Opel Calibra, as well as some Mercedes-Benz and Porche models, just to name a few... :)
I like how excited the reviewer is about this car. Makes me wanna own one today!
We've had 9000s for the past 25 years. Fantastic cars.
I drove 4 different 9000s between 1988 and 2018. That is 30 years. I simply could not find a better car.
im from sweden where these cars were first manufactured, my parnets got a yr 95 model, sold it to a family member after a couple years and then bought it back in 2015, im now 16 and next in line as i get my drivers license in a couple years, and i can confirm the seats are AMAZINGLY soft. Theyre probably my fvaorite part to be honest, i love the general vibe of the car too, it feels spacious but still cozy in a way.
9000 Aero. True beast! I have owned maybe 50 cars but this was the best no question. Bought one again a year ago. Never selling that❤️🇸🇪
I've just bought a 9000 to use while my 900 has a respray but I will be keeping it too. Excellent cars.
I came to your channels for the cars and I am staying for your passion. Great videos dude
Nice one Geoff! I'm the 3rd and longest owner of a lovely '94, V6 9000 Griffin down in Melbourne, Aus. This car remains a truly solid daily driver in a classic design (Giugiaro) and seems to be looking even better with age.
As in the UK, it is completely undervalued and so I'm probably keeping it another 20 years!
G'day mate! Im in Toowoomba. Currently looking at either a 9000 CD or a OG 9-5 Aero... problem is 9000 is available now, and 9-5 isnt available for another month. My NG 9-3 did its head after catastrophic cooling system failure. Love the 9-5 Aero and likely to hold out for that... but my god the 9000 is a cool car. And those Red Top B234 engines are epic. What's your favourite thing and least favourite thing about the 9000?
I once brought a 5 year old Saab 9000s with one owner for £2,500 and full service history. Full leather and similar dashboard to your one, it was the most luxerious and best performance car I have ever driven. Now I need to find another, but will not get another bargain like that. What is even more remarkable is cars was a sideline for Saab, main production was jet fighters.
From episode to episode Geoff more and more falls in love with our old SAAB's - Hillarious!
Had a 9000 for years. Put an air bleed in to increase turbo response. My friend Steve bought an ex police armed response saab 9000. Kevlar in the doors engine chipped by saab with a much larder turbo. Around 440 hp. Magic.
I have got 1997 9000 CSE 2.0 LPT, since 2004, Love it. Going to keep it as long as I can, It is worth it. Just need to buy and keep a set of spares just in case you will need one and there is no one who manufacture them. Just bought Ignition module £400....just in case! 🙂Thanks for video.
You're a natural. The 12 minutes flew by. Subbed.
The best car ever made. I have a '97 9000 CSE 2.3 Turbo. Love it!
Great Channel Geoff. Got me looking for a Saab now....just the encouragement I needed...😂
The 9000 with those 3 spokes together with the wide taillight(s) looks good
Just come across this video that was taken 3 years ago. As a Saab owner ( I own 2 Saabs, both are NG 9-3, one is Aero and the other one is Arc ), I really enjoy the Safety, Stability & Durability that Saab has offered. I always want to have a 9000 CSE but its hard to find in the U.S.A. Hope you still keep this 9000 CSE today .... Thanks for sharing !
Best cars on the planet. The thought that they are no longer being made makes me wanna cry. Got me a 93 viggen in the garage but don't want to take it out as I don't want to wear it out.
Can I have it?
I had a 2004 Saab 9000 Aero. Greatest car I ever had.
there was not such a year, maybe 1994? productuon ended in 1998 i think
Oh boy do I regret selling my 9k now. Such an amazing car!
Hi all, 2001 9-5 2.3 SE here.............best car I ever had!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Back in the day, Volvo built family tanks and Saab built fighter jets on wheels. Nowadays, the Chinese build overpriced hybrid SUVs disguised as Volvos and Saab just builds fighter jets
Geoff; DON'T sell it. That's a special car! As an owner of 2 Saab's I am not jealous lol. If you sell it you will regret it, and those engines are bullet proof.
They have a savage midrange because Saab figured overtaking performance is more useful than outright acceleration. Those engineers knew a thing or two 🙂
This car was eventually broken for bits
@@GeoffBuysCars that's painful 😖
Got my Saab 9-5 wagon for a great price! It’s now modified and a lot of fun!
Great video... what a car for the money! Love the channel and the reviews btw.
Love Saabs! I’ve got a 9-5 Aero but 9000’s look so cool!
I’m taking my “new” 2004 saab 9-5 2.3 Aero 5AT 250 bhp tomorrow; 147.000 km, for less than 3k€. THANKS TO YOU
Awesome!
I had a 9000 2.0 ecopower, with a Abbot Racing tune and intercooler, in mid - late 90's, Lots of fun, - now I have a similar one, which is my daily driver, I will be working on it when I've retired, it should certainly go woosh then.
Those wheels are so nice! 😍
The funniest car i ever owned, a 1996 one exactly like this but in silver metallic.
I then upgraded it with a Nordic stage 2 tune, and got 240 hp, and ruined the gear box.
Worth it.
I own 2 9000 Aero 5 speeds and another spare 2.3 I got for $50 these cars are amazing! Got enough parts to keep mine on the road forever!
My brother has been a Saab lover for years now and I’ve always knocked him for it until recently, he’s had a espresso green 9-5 for years now and we just got it running this past spring and I fell in love on my first drive in it, the 2.3 turbo was just a different experience from other turbo luxury sedans of the period, I had been wanting one since then and wasn’t able to find a clean manual Saab until recently when I decided to trade my 1993 Honda Civic Si in the sought after OEM Aztec green metallic color for a 1994 Saab 9000 Cs hatchback and I’m extremely happy with the deal, it’s a fantastic car and I cannot wait to put the stock 9-5 turbo setup on it so it’s not n/a anymore 😁😁
Have to say, I still miss my 9000 Aero !
My 1995 9k CDE 2.3TA has been sitting with a blown headgasket for well over a year. It needs new front fenders, brake master cylinder, abs pump and some other bits and bobs, but eventually it WILL be back on the road. I've had it for... almost 13 years now. Still love it.
I used to have one of these, I really, really.....really wish I hadn't sold it, it was emotional watching this
Hi Geoff, wish i could share your enthusiasm, i had a 9000cse K reg 2ltr, couldnt stop on a hill breakswould not hold, lost count how many times Saab serviced it was a waste of time especislly living in Wales. Car was slow and underpowered just glad i got rid of it, never again. Glad your happy with yours.
Looks awesome. This channel is becoming more like geoffbuyssaabs than geoffbuyscars
it's not intentional, they just keep dropping in my lap!
More like GeoffKeepsSaabs
I worked in Sweden in the early 90s and couldnt owna SAAb as my company car fro various reasons had to be a Toyota . Back in the Uk I get a company car and its a 9000CD a wonderful wonderful car fast spacious incredibly comfortable . Took a BMW loving friend out to the Cotswolds in it, he was a big big guy and couldnt believe the level of comfort
Proper secret of the motoring world a true modern classic you cant explain saab you either get it or dont i dont no many saab owners that wouldnt have another a real shame the brand is gone the original thinking mans performance family saloon fantastic channel cant wait for more bargain saab content i think you found ya niche
The 9000 was a great car!!
I remember Quentin Wilson recommending this car as one of the best cars to buy second hand. The old Top Gear as I recall.
I have 4 Saabs, the oldest one of which being a '96 9000 CSE (and the newest a 9-5 NG). Of all my 4 Saabs, the 9000 may not be the most powerful one, however it is the most fun one to drive. So comfy I still use it for long distance journeys sometimes
Had one of these for like 5 years, automatic, one of the comfiest things around.
Saab is one of the cars I've never owned wish I had bought one when I was younger!
you can still buy one second hand of course
@@boardernut haven't they shot up in price? 👍
Just bought a 9000 myself. Lpt with 170hp, with a blown head gasket. Will fix it, convert it to a full pressure turbo version.
Its a CSE, sunroof, cruise control, climate control, heated seats, trip computer and extra audio amplifier. Cant wait to drive it. :)
Paid 300 euro's for it.. I'm thinking it'll need maybe a grand worth of parts to get in top shape. I'd say its stilla bargain. 😁
I have to agree ive had mine since christmas and i fell in love with its looks, power, interior and i only paid 800euro for it and now im planning to upgrade it from 200hp to 250-300hp
On my second 9000 which I've been running for over 20 years. My neighbour keeps asking wistfully if I want to sell but I'm in no rush. ULEZ will be a significant hurdle though...
If you take care of them they will take care of you for life. Still one of the safest cars on the road.
My dad had one 2.3t not sure but it was a manual and it was the most fun I’ve had in a car. My 318i manual 1.9l feels similar obv no turbo but more fun in other aspects. Want one like this spec so bad
Superlove the vid, as a saab lover, i want that car!
I miss that car!!!
Is it just me that thinks Geoff is Sniff petrol (Richard Porters) long lost cousin, love the videos man, only found the channell last week, benn bingeing ever since
I'm Richard Porter - and I've had several Saabs over the years, but Sniff Petrol, who's that? Still, my remapped 9000 CDE LPT lives on in my memory as my favourite. I did Geoff's thought experiment about travelling to Le Mans, for real. I had to take pity on an Audi TT and pull in to let it past. Geoff is also right about powering around corners. The lift-off oversteer, if you go into a corner too fast, is savage.
G'day Richard 👋 May I please ask you a question? I'm tossing up between either a 1997 Saab 9000 CD with 120k kms, vs a 2001 Saab 9-5 Aero with 220k kms. The 9-5 Aero has been meticoulsly maintained by a fellow saab enthusiast and wrenched on by a lifelong Euro mechanic. Car is to replace my broken NG 9-3 Linear. Both with Auto box and 2.3 Turbo. Im leaning towards the 9-5 Aero, as it's in Esspreso Black, and I know its history (plus, it's an Aero). The 9000 i know very little about. Wondering if you might give your brief 2 cents worth on the 9000 vs the 9-5 please?
Something about a Saab on 3 Spoke alloys....😊😊
You don't really get the whole concept how good a vintage SAAB really is until You get caught by an 'orrible snowstorm or sudden icy roads. Or both. SAAB 9000 is probably still the best and most safe vehicle when the going gets fucked-up, and only the fucked-up keep going -in a SAAB. 99 GLs, 900c, 9000CD, 9000CSE automatic and currently two 9-5 STW automatics 2005 & 2007. Have to get a 9000 coz it's The Thing in Itself.
My ex ran into black ice in my '89 9000, slid off the road and hit a telephone pole. Thankfully hit it with the a-pillar, so it cut the pole clean in two and no one was hurt. Sold the car for pennies. Managed to drive it like 300km after buying it. I'm still annoyed and this was in 2008, it was in pristine condition.
This Saab IMHO was the last great car that Saab ever made! I have to say though that the first and second generation 9000s were by far my all time favorite Saabs of all. I was lucky enough to drive a 1992 Saab 9000 turbo with the 5 speed manual gearbox this past summer, and it was like love at first sight!
I'd love to see you in a Saab 900 turbo and your thoughts on it.
A strangely delightful looking beast with a long snout.
Driving it was akin to a ww2 fighter plane with its almost u shaped windscreen and narrow cockpit.
It was built like a tank and almost as heavy which the mpg varified but for 1979 when it came out it was a flyer.
To exit the car you needed to have mastered the school track and field hurdle event cause the door sills were massive. The thing that was a deal breaker for me was the fact that the engine was put in arse about face with the timing belt up against the bulkhead. The thought of doing a timing belt on the thing sent shivers cascading through my toolbox.
All my mates back In the day were either hankering after Escort RS turbos or the 900 turbos. Me? I settled for 3.0 and 2.8i capris but then again I was never your average hooligan.
The 900 turbos were a TRUELY love car of the time.
That thing has a timing chain.
Bitten by the Saab bug! - I've had two 9-5's and they were superlative cars.
Best car I ever had, fast and reliable, sleeper
I live abroad but will be returning to the uk in a few years, I really hope there are a few nice saabs left when I return
One of the best cars l have driven with. You don't understand have good the car actually is an till you drive with it.
I've had 4 9000's, 3 900's and a 9-5 aero. The 9-5 was a weapon, but I'd take any of the 9000's over any other car I've owned.
I got a 9000 Aero with 90 k on clock only. :-)
Love these cars. Wish I could find one like this ❤️
Had a 9000 aero beautiful motor
Wow you are very lucky
I had a 1995 900 HOT 3 door in black. Boy it was fast, it was great fun, but cost a small fortune in fuel. Not that I drove it hard, just the turbo boost would cut in on the hills. And it fell to bits, saab parts were a small fortune... Chopped it in for an E39 528 manual.. Had the BMW car for 10 years and over 200,000 miles..
This looks sweet.... and I've bought the winning ticket too. Bonus! 😜
I'm all for the price of Saab's going up. Keep them from getting into the hands of the boyracers that are currently buying them and trashing them because they are cheap.
Hi Geoff, I hope you're doing good. How much did you pay for this car?
£2k, this was… I dunno, 2019? 2020? Can’t remember!
Parts in the US are hard to come by loved this car on Seinfeld.
Cannot wait to ship one to the US. No car here comes close to this beautiful European look.
Better ship a second one for parts. I couldn't find a fucking side mirror for mine in almost a year of looking.
im ,Swedish , fucking love you 9000 Saab !
I saw think I saw this for sale. Was it Nairn way?
Gappy easter alright happy easter everybody from the Joneses in West Yorkshire
6:36 What a beautiful looking area. Where is that?
that's a fkn beauty mate
Hi jeff l love saabs got to aero had 58 saab
im a car nut aged 53 got here from the macmaster love you geoff but i cant see hardly any fords but i might be missing something im new mate
they are not so cheap for a nice one in sweden
Ciao ma quanti Km ha la SAAB?
Shut up mate, don’t give away the secret!
ha ha, i know right
Hi Geoff! I've just seen one of these on sale for 1500€ in Finland and it's only been driven 265k/km. Problem is that it has recently been brought over from Sweden and the owner hasn't really listed any specs or nothing on it. Should I risk it and go for it or just try and get as much info out of the buyer at the risk of someone else buying it first?
It's an automatic too
Stop giving the game away about saabs! They'll not stay cheap if everyone finds out!
Stop buying SAABs you’re making me realise what I’m missing 😂
LMAO!!
How much did you pay for it?
Shh please keep quiet about the saabs we saab owners don't want others to realise what a bargain they are before we can collect them all 🤣, its all about 3rd gear in these!
Hey Geoff, do you think you’d be as happy, if it were an automatic (transmission)?
in this case, no. this car has to be manual.
I have an Aero Auto,
It plays well into to the Luxury feel of the car, because it was a luxury car, it was more expensive than an equivalent BMW 5 series for example and had 'Higher' spec. It can also easily be chipped to be as quick as manual.
However, you don't always catch it in the correct gear and revs to kick you back in your seat.
If you're buying on for the performance, you want a manual, which can also be upgraded further because the gearbox can handle slightly more torque.
How come theres no run downs of how much your buying and selling for
There will be a follow up to this one and the MGZTT I’m just behind with my editing, Daimler, Volvo 850 and Rover 827 all to come as well.
My 9000 Aero is for sale
Still for sale?
@@dominichignett5261 yes
Why drive a car when you can pilot a Saab!
Just got yourself a classic your quids in double triple your money zzz. Saab is money
I have an Alfa Romeo 159 ti Sw - and I think I would rather have that Saab.
@ColdPetRat2.99 I think I do - don't get me wrong, the Alfa is lovely to drive and well built - nearly 118,000 miles on it and not a squeak or rattle in the car, plus I get compliments wherever I park it. I have always wanted a Saab 9000 for about the last 3 decades, as I have always liked the look of them. But I guess you fancy this car as much as I do. 😎 Btw, I have owned 2 Saab 9-5's - one of them was an Aero, and always enjoyed surprising BMW's etc on the road, so to me, this car is quite the sleeper, as the number plate to most drivers will mean old and slow!
@ColdPetRat2.99 I know they can be a lot of time and money, but I still would like one of these.
That car is not modern at all that is not very nice not a huge fan of this car also just finished watching the zafira video would you be able to review a 2021 bmw 2 series gran tourer by any chance I think it's very intresting???
Saab 2.3 Turbo feels like a bigger engine than 2.3lt
That's kind of the point. Saab toyed with the idea of a V8 (to appeal to the US market) and made a prototype but in the end decided what's the point when you can get the same performance (or greater) from a smaller, lighter, more economical engine with a snail bolted to it. My 2003 Saab 9-5 Aero (Stage 3 tune) never leaves me wanting more power. Best car I've ever owned.
Can I participate if I am less then 18?
You’re only buying a postcard, not a beer...! So yes, you can.
OMG That 9000 is soooo low n pretty.....
i buy it from you, how much? xD