Lenovo Thinkbook Plus Gen 5 Hybrid hands-on at CES 2024
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Typically a 2-in-1 is something that can transform into multiple modes (e.g., a notebook that converts to tablet or vice versa). But with the ThinkBook Plus Gen 5 hybrid, Lenovo smashed two gadgets together to create one of the funkiest and most interesting laptops we've seen here at CES 2024 in Las Vegas.
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This is actually the first Windows computer that I actually want in a very long time. Great job Lenovo.
Asus Transformer from a decade ago?
Don't buy Lenovo.. Worst after sales service with pathetic and unprofessional tech support executives
We've waited 11 years for this, you know!
Solving the problem of Windows being a bad platform for a tablet.
windows stays bad on pc.
Lol 😂
Asus Transformer from 2013 solved the same problem.
Bad platform for a tablet??
@@chandrasekhar630 it's touch sensitive controls aren't as well regarded as Android just like MacOS doesn't work for touch screens as well as iOS. Neither Apple nor Microsoft have managed to solve this trivial problem, but then look at all their other problems with their software, it's hardly surprising.
I would love to see a notebook/tablet like this with Samsung technology. The tablet could be similar to a Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra with all its processing power and the S-Pen stylus. It would be fantastic.
With that slim, I think I want it so much. When you feel like bringing a single device, but actually you have 2 on your bag. That's is perfect
Lenovo CES showcases always make me go "Hell, more manufacturers should do this."
It looks surprisingly positive for a device of this kind. Also surprisingly "cheap", it is very expensive, but when you consider it's specced as both a high end tablet and a high end laptop it's actually not very overpriced at all.
Still outside of my price range, but if I could afford it I'd love to try daily driving it
Hopefully if this dual boot solution catches on we will see similar options at lower price points. Or resale market
It certainly is a nice concept! But comparing it with the only daily drive I know: ideapad flex 5 14" (Ryzen7) + samsung tab s6 lite... this one is still far more expensive (assuming it actually releases at ~2,000 USD) considering the specs offered are similar and the laptop+tablet combi even has 2 screens already.
Edit: my bad, the specs for this hybrid's tablet is a lot higher than Tab S6 Lite, so probably around the Tab Ultra? Okay more understandable that way.
As someone who uses an iPad for reading and annotarions but find carrying it alongside a laptop cumbersome, this could simplify things a lot.
They're 🤏 close to running both versions of windows on it. Imagine browser and Office session being seamless.
My dream of an windows pc inside a keyboard is finally here. If they sell the keyboard separately im all for it
A lot of commenters, based on the fact that it's not for them, assuming it's not for anybody.
I'm hoping this is a success because it's a concept I'd love to see expanded- for me a bit lighter and smaller (and cheaper!) would be an absolute dream machine. Two separate computers might not be elegant but it could be a sight more elegant than either Windows when it tries to be a tablet or Android when it tries to be a desktop.
The hardware chaps seem to be much smarter than the software chaps, which I suppose shouldn't be surprising. The fact it seems to be beyond the wit of mortal Apple or Microsoft code monkeys to make their desktop UI work well with touchscreens is a huge condemnation of their abilities.
As someone that wanted a newer surfacebook this is good replacement.
I wish it has at least one port independently on display device for transfering large files.
3:08 Slight mistake the tablet part does have an additional USB-C port on the bottom of it near the proprietary display/docking port used to connect it to the Laptop part that can be used for charging and data.
lenovo always amazes me ngl.
but for me, as long they have an amd version, and don’t change the keyboard layout that left from IBM style, that’s what really matters most. 😂
the Legions i saw so far are rather disapointing, sadly. So I'll stick to my Legion Slim 7i gen 8 and Yoga 7 14 AMD G8 for travelling
@@edgargabriel6640 for legions class i feel that they are trying to specialize more into „college students“ market rather than „professionals“ nowadays, maybe i’m wrong. and btw I also have the Yoga 7 series 14ARB7 2 in 1 with AMD for travel. 🥳
do you have any recommendation for amd lenovo for gaming that not so heavy? Legion Slim ya?
@@justmoch8985depends on your budget the 2023 slim 5 14" is a rather good compromise.
Maybe check Dave2D video about the new Yogas (especially the pro 9i, which is an Intel, but an Ultra CPU)
@@justmoch8985 my comments seem to get deleted here.
I suggested the 2023 Slim 5 and to check the new Yogas instead.
Appart of that check the ('intel) HP Omen 14"
Yeah why would you even put intel into a device such as this. The amazing performance per watt amd processors like 7840U offer is ideal for this.
If the pen has pressure sensitivity i might saved up for this instead of new iPad pro
I love how it makes tablets extendible.❤
The 2 device storage should be interconnected when docked. Windows should see android storage as USB storage perhaps and vice versa. Hopefully in laptop mode we can use android with the keyboard, again android read the keyboard as USB. And when docked the android read windows battery as powerbank
how many years have I waited for some sort of Windows/Android combo device... finally! It does not look perfect, but it should be pretty usable!
I wanted this. 10 years ago when Asus Transformer was released.
No ports at all on the tablet? How do you recharge it, without having the PCboard station?
But with laptops you can upgrade the OS. How long will Lenovo support Android updates? You might find the Android version doesn't get updated and your system becomes obsolete. At least with Windows that doesn't happen
Lenovo does not have a good record on updating their Android devices. You're lucky if it gets updated next year.
I thought this was insane but I can kind of see this replacing my Macbook and iPad combo
the surface book lives on
Nice finaly we get the surface book 4
I don't know, what's magic trick Lenovo used to that device. Seems like what I actually need, switching from different OS seamlessly. Maybe they take dual boot and virtualization to next level
Nah, Asus Transformer beat them to the punch 10 years ago. Exactly same gimmick.
@@UA-camWatcher264really? I recall a Windows one, and an Android one, I don't recall it being both?
And my Android one was nice at the time, but as I recall all the keyboard added was more battery, and some ports. It didn't have separate processing power unless I'm hallucinating.
@@jonevansauthor Asus Transformer Book Trio. Exactly like this Lenovo. Forgot the actual name, had to search it.
How much?
Its a nice solution! However, I always worry about the patches and updates on the Android support? How long and how often?
10 years ago. Asus Transformer. Did this thing.
Upper screen
Android has
Bluetooth and wifi enabled ?
So you cant charge the tablet standalone 🤦♂?
Exactly I,m shock there's no usb c port on the tablet part. For charging and usb c drive. Is kinda a useless product.
Can charge the tablet, I see there is a type c for power charging and data transfer
@@vicosong1380you mean at the bottom where it connects to the keyboard?
Yea there is usb c ovet thete
Many blessings to you💞 ✌🥰
This seems like a kludge to me. I use a Acer 2-in-1 (personal) and have used Surfaces at work. While Windows might not be the best as a pure tablet, I'm not two operating systems is a benefit. I routinely use my Acer with it's keyboard when writing or working on Excel documents, etc. and then take the keyboard off to use it as a tablet for reading, watching videos, etc. on the couch. Maybe I'd have to try it, but I can't imagine how annoying it would be to have to sync docs, find/manage an Android desktop, work with files in a goofy shared folder -- when they are on OneDrive anyway, etc., etc. Might as well use my phone?
So its basically using the tablet as a monitor. What a brilliant idea.
I want this!
Bring this to Thinkpad and add one USB C port to the tablet and I'm happy to hand Lenovo my money!
so a surface?
I think Asus launched something similar around 10 years ago, and it was never popular because of the price. With the $2,000 price tag (reported on the Engadget website), I am afraid it would be the same case here.
I remember that device. It was pulled because at the time Google and Microsoft were not playing nice. Glad to see this making a comeback because buying a laptop and separate android tablet would cost nearly as much (If not more) depending on the specs.
Are you talking about the ZenPad or the even older Transformer Pad? Those days were wild, where phones could turn into tablets.
Asus transfomer trio
Asus did release a device exactly like this. Android on the screen part, connect it to use Windows. Tons of old reviews here in YT.
@UA-camWatcher731 it was massively under-powered like all the 2-in-1's back then. Integrated graphics and underclocked GPU made anything above watching movies/basic spreadsheets impossible to do any real work or gaming with.
Where is x1 fold ?
Would much prefer it stayed in Wi dows mode when detached... or can it do that? Otherwise I will keep waiting for the MS Surface Pro 10.
I am interested in the minisforum v3 more
it could stay windows with freestyle
there are already devices that do that (all 2in1 devices are doing it). This is strictly for people (like myself) who want android/windows combo device.
Hardware (processor, ram, storage) used for Windows is in the keyboard part.
I wonder if you can use the lower half through Bluetooth to use it’s keyboard and trackpad on the Android tablet?
This is what I've always wanted. I just wish you could use the android mode while attached if you wanted/needed to.
I know my wife would love this as she carries a galaxy book and tab s7+ together for work as an NP. One for charting on dedicated windows software and the other for note taking and pulling up old charts and showing things to patients
I wanted this, 10 years ago when Asus Transformer was announced.
you can you can open the android on a separate window
@@munawirulhadi2864 Old concept. Took 10 years for someone to redo it.
I may have missed it, but if you can slap the keyboard and Windows section on your desk, plug it into a monitor and use it as your desktop, and also walk away with the Android tablet (toilet PC) that'd be sweet and worth paying the premium for some. Personally, problems with Windows on tablet not being well regarded not withstanding, I'm still more interested in the Asus Flow Z13 because it's better value and design than the MS Surface Pro (although admittedly the Acronym version is offensively ugly, and adds nothing useful).
Can it run Android while it's attached to the keyboard?
This is literally the perfect device.
Wished my legion go had a keyboard like that 😭
bruh If I have the money to afford it I would literally buy it right away.
I'm sold with making it as a drawing tablet automatically just by yanking the screen, I really love that concept.
Con laptop này khi sạc đầy pin 75 whr đến 100% thì nó ăn điện lưới trực tiếp mà không dùng đến cục pin 38 whr chứ ạ ??. Giống như laptop windows bình thường đấy mà ạ !!. Lại còn vấn đề là nếu cục pin dung lượng 38 whr bị sụt năng lượng còn 27% thì nó lấy năng lượng ở đâu để sạc đầy lại 100% được ạ ??. Bạn nào biết xin chỉ giúp với ạ ??. Xin cảm ơn ạ !!!.
Super!!!! İ7+Snapdragon 7 cheap.
I just want a Windows on a regular 2-in-1 that has this display ratio.
I get that they are technically two separate devices, but absolutely no mention of the Windows Surfacebook seems ridiculous. They literally did this like 7 years ago.
IIRC the Windows Serface books didn't have a native Android processor -- it just had one processor in the screen.
its like a lenovo version of the microsoft surface book
What about the price?
Asus Transformer called from 2013
edit: complete name is Asus Transformer Book Trio.
The problem with thinkbook plus is that it will be abandoned when the next iteration comes. Their software capability is not enough too pull this off.
this is awesome but i wish they would make a version where the tablet could run windows as well, basically like a surface book but more modern
also loooove the color e-ink lid concept!! i want that on a white/silver colorway laptop. would also be cool if they went all in and tried to make the entire body of the laptop able to color shift in some way, even if it's just like a light/heat reaction thing like on that tecno limited edition phone.
Great job by Lenovo here!
2:08 Wow 😮! I'm flabbergasted 😮! This is a game-changer, the old laptop designs are supplanted today. I'll love, really really love to own one. But I hope it is well built and sturdy (which it appears to be). 3:08 Tablet component spec will do fine alone but if when it's reconnected to the other half component the performance is exceptionally great then that is acceptable. 4:54 The back of the screen on this laptop is perfect for a variety of customizable displays. But would it use up too much battery life? I'm just asking. 0:48 I love the ability to run two completely separate devices as well as two separate OS (This is a game changer). This is the future laptop Lenovo just needs to improve on the design as time progresses. I'm blown away by this awesome design 😲. I can run both Android and Windows at the same time with this hybrid device, magnificent. 1:10 The hybrid folder is magnificent I love it. 5:01 This double screen design is aesthetically appealing and can serves some Kool purpose we haven't thought of yet.
Old concept. Asus Transformer did this dual OS device 10 years ago.
clever idea
Обалденный Ноутбук 😮😮😮!❤❤❤❤❤ Я уже хочу такой! Но жаль не смогу его позволить себе! Давно у меня были такие мысли, чтобы так сделали!
Impressive
Great idea. Just put a small chip in the monitor portion that runs Android
Asus thought about it. 10 years ago. Asus Transformer.
Literally it took 30 secs to understand what is going on here. Wow. How did they manage that?
Dunno man. But Asus managed the same thing 10 years ago. Search Asus Transformer.
Just missing thunderbolt 5
so basically the asus tx201 from about 10 years ago! i had one it broke and \always wanted it again! the asus tx021 was better looking thouhj
Yeah, liked that device too. Never had one though.
@@UA-camWatcher264 my screen broke so i have the base as a computer that eneds an extrernal monitor. hope you can buy the screen part seperatly so if i get this one i will buy a 2nd screen as spare
An android tablet that turns into a monitor for a windows laptop. I was wondering why I took so long for a company to implement this.
Imagine if Apple created something like this.
Asus thought about it. 10 years ago. Asus Transformer.
@@UA-camWatcher264 that’s different, the transformer is a windows tablet with an attachable keyboard. This is technically a 3-in-1 device. It’s an android tablet, it’s a desktop, and it’s a windows laptop.
I love the idea but it's far from practical. Ironically, 2in1 devices are designed to give you more for less but in a way this gives you less for more (money). If you buy a separate laptop and tablet, you can get them cheaper, AND be able to use the laptop independently without the need for accessories. For example, the same $2,000 get you the newest MacBook Pro + an entry level iPad. The Windows and Android options are too many to name.
Great laptop come tablet how much pounds
I don’t want it to be an android tablet. I want to run full versions of windows software on a tablet
UA-cam have 2 layers on the bottom layer brighness is too high as well as sound destruction
On the upper layer some how it is ballance. UA-cam team kindly cross check.
this is what the ipad pro should be to make sense
whats the added value??
Thats cool!
I thought Microsoft doesn't allow this kind of product to exsist last time, last time samsung and asus did this with their laptop/tablet hybrid 10 years ago at CES, Microsoft strongly object the release of the product, hopefully this time this wouldn't be a vaporware.
Times have changed. MS have finally acknowledged that Windows on a tablet sucks and that it will never compete with Android or iPadOS. So, they now have Android apps built into W11, showing how far they have gone in giving up with a tablet Windows OS. This is the next step, and maybe even the Surface Pro in the future will have a dual boot-up to give that machine a much-needed boost as its sales fall off a cliff.
could it be used as a secondary wired display for other PCs?
I'll by it if it is £1500 or less tbh. It being both an adroid tablet and wimdlws computer makes it really appealing.
Seriously no one remembers Asus transformer doing the same exact thing?
@@UA-camWatcher264 not the same think,the ASU’s transformer is just the same as the surface book. This device runs windows and android
@@oo--7714 Asus Transformer Trio. Exactly the same.
Want
God I want them to continue building off from this concept and for other companies to compete against it. I'm surprised more devices don't have a dual boot or something like this already. Apple would do a fantastic job putting out a hybrid device that runs MacOS and PadOS/iOS. Microsoft could dominate the handheld gaming market with a device that can swap between running windows and accessing all PC games and storefronts and Xbox OS and all your Xbox console games. With the rise of foldable phones and how powerful mobile chips and hardware have become, I could even see this work for flagship phones where maybe when docked and folded out they become a mini lightweight laptop.
It's the next best thing to Microsoft getting off their butts and making an intelligent version of windows that can adapt to devices and utilized their Android subsystem by actually having android apps natively in the MS store and overall improving that experience.
OEMs won't be able to release such products unless Microsoft gives greenlight ...
Asus thought about it. 10 years ago. Asus Transformer.
I love big kinda weird swings. Will I buy one of these... no. I'm glad they exist, though.
Seems neat. Unfortunately 90% of Lenovo's most innovative products fail completely.
imagine if apple copy this concept for the ipad and macbook. hybrid macpad😀
If only Samsung can do this on their laptops, that would have me begging them to take my money
So Surface book with more features ?
Nothing new that's how 2in1 used to be before the gimmicky tent fold options.
This is delightfully stupid
on the contrary, this 2 in 1 solution is even more handy than having 2 devices
What's the use case? Why would anyone need an android tab and plug the "core laptop" into the monitor or additional screen?
The same thing, but made by Samsung (I trust Samsung more than Lenovo for software tracking on the Android part, and especially at the pencil level with Wacom technology), with pins on the back to be able to connect the 2 parts back to back and use the screen as a graphics tablet but with professional Windows graphics applications, Samsung will kill the game.
like this
Why not just purchasing conservative laptop and Android respectively? It's more convenient.
Lenovo innovating every year giving us different products ❤❤. Not like Apple that just change the colour of the package and sell it to us again with a price increase next year 😂😂😂
I dunno about the innovation this time. Asus Transformer been around for 10 years.
If this thing releases without a built-in 5G modem it will be DOA. There is no point in a mobile laptop with no internet.
thats the kinda wacky ideas i would have expected from Asus. my first impression is that it is over engineered for a non-existent user base. Assume it comes at a super premium price
I know my wife would love this as she carries a galaxy book and tab s7+ together for work as an NP. One for charting on dedicated windows software and the other for note taking and pulling up old charts and showing things to patients
Thanks for the comment. May be i was too quick to judge. @@localblackman427
Yes indeed. Asus did made Asus Transformer 10 years ago, same exact concept.
I would just buy a normal windows laptop AND a separate android tablet 😅
Why would I detach the laptop's monitor, then reattach another monitor to it again just to have 2 computers while I can have a laptop and a tablet already?
some people prefer versatility, this is an awesome concept
@@ARUchannel1 An awesome concept done by Asus 10 years ago. Search Asus Transformer.
@@ARUchannel1@ARUchannel1 What my de facto deal breaker is that if you do a lot of work on a tablet and need a keyboard for productivity, well, good luck, as the tablet only works detached from the keyboard!
@@andyH_EnglandThere's a key on the keyboard that allows you to switch to android-with-keyboard mode.
Shut up and take my money 💰 🤓
Bro wym 8 gen 1 is NOT powerful?! 😭
We have a responsibility as gamers and people to not buy or promote Chinese stuff just in case war breaks out or just to support our own economies. Our tech is just as good or probably better
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Nextgen : ios + android hybrid 😅
Oh, wow! 1. Terrible name. 2. Too expensive. 3. I thought it would be like any other 2in1 device but this might be the first TRULY 2in1 device. The keyboard base is running Windows on Intel, and the screen is running Android on a Qualcomm chip?! Genius. Also... Kinda redundant for most people who'll be fine with one or the other. But those who REALLY need both will be thrilled.
This doesn't seem at all elegant, but probably a smarter concept than past attempts like the surface book - that style of 2in1 had to contain all the components of a laptop in the tablet/display half to use while detached, meaning it was incredibly thermally limited, even whilst the keyboard was attached. It was also basically unusable as a pure tablet due to the small battery in the tablet and poor efficiency of the processors, and having a more efficient arm processor in the tablet overcomes this.
Past attempts, like Asus Transformer?
I think it is useless.
It should have an SD card slot in the android tablet side for the price and a usb C slot for that price.
Not good enough in 2024.
Waste of