He didn't even hear what was said before he had that small meltdown, literally most wars had similar incident, all are awful, but in this one it was even told in the video that Chechens dressed in Russian uniforms, and after a while soldiers got paranoid and couldn't rust anyone. Edit: grammar
@@schaihmansur8298 my family lived in Grozny since 1923. And then after collapse of USSR religious extremists pop up everywhere prohibiting to wear anything other than long skirt for girls. And hunting girls if they found on street wearing pants or something else. People coming to your home saying that you should sell them your home for nothing. And if you don't sell they will take it anyway. And I'm not even talking about things that happened after first war. My family left before 1st war started
@@schaihmansur8298 that's like saying that Bush blowed up Twin Towers. Same level conspiracy. But because it happened in Russia. Westerners are like "YEAH IT WAS PUTIN"
@@SmaukGames Its a lie. Extremists didnt exist in chechnya until 1996 and in grozny, there were no extremists. Whatch videos of the Victory in chechnya from 1996 and even 1999. vast majority of people dressed western. There was onyl one region in chechnya that was extremist and some twoo other that were semi-Sharia. Like Urus Martan or Gudurmes. This bullshit with found on the street wearing pants started with Kadyrow in 2008. You are spinning your together from things that happened under the russian occupation. Many things were fucked up in chechnya. But the extremists were your doing. Schamil turned into a terrorist because your fucking army killed his family and he allied with Khattab. Idi naxuy fascists.
I had the same thought, they only now started to bark, once the topic is still hot, bark all the nonsense and after a year or two will change their position against something else. Most of people don't care as long as it is trendy to hate on something, they will.
Bro its mostly kids and NEETs who will support anything thats unpopular to seem edgy and interesting (in their minds). If Ukraine was ruled by actual swastika armband wearing nazis and Russia was supported by the west, govs and populous, i can guaranteeeeeee you theyd be supporting Ukraine and shitting on Russia 24/7. But since everyone supports Ukraine because duh, a nation has a right to exist and make decisions on its own, they have to support Russia instead. The funniest ones are eastern or central europeans (as a Pole i see it a lot) who parrot russian propaganda like "NATO expansionism" even tho we LITERALLY BEGGED NATO to take us because we knew Russia wont be in such chaos like in the 90s for long (our government seriously threatened NATO to buy nukes and point them westward, and then threatened Clinton to call all Poles living in US, like 20 million of them, to vote republican - and democrats shat their pants and allowed Poland to join). So we literally threatened nuclear war to be saved from Russia and now some Polish kids criticise Ukraine for trying to follow the same path we did. Then again ive never met any Pole who actually thinks that in real life, and we know very well how ABSURD russian troll farms can be, im talking thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people working 9-5 pushing their agenda so it might not even be real Poles at all...
See, where NATO doctrine for having tanks in urban environments is to have as much infantry support for the tank as possible, Russians prefer the level that shit to the ground so that they can't flank the tank in any buildings approach.
That chat was filled with shocking amount of one sided racism and bigotry, not sure I should be surprised that it was remotely allowed seeing Tommy's negative view on Russia and Russians from other streams.
@@rarescevei8268 lmao imagine people calling Germans wild in the 30s and 40s for causing 2 world wars, nazism, all that and then some german being like "how can you talk badly about us! Talk about western tolerance!" Like... if uou dont want to be hated maybe dont invade Chechnia i mean Chechnia again i mean Georgia i mean Georgia again (wasnt it 3 times?) I mean Ukraine i mean Ukraine again i mean Ukraine again but full on this time. See any online hatred on that level towards lets say Poland? No? Why is that? Maybe because theyre not massacring hundreds of thousands of people over the last 20-30 years? Yeah maybe that. Im sure you were as offended when people talked badly about Americans messing up middle east.
Also, I wish somebody would translate Dudaev's interviews for Tommy to see. The guy was cool as a cucumber and quite eloquent. I don't buy the 'Islamic fundamentalists came to power' story.
I think it is obvious that Putin is a great politician and manipulator. If he had stayed in the political arena, he would have ruled until a ripe old age, and then died peacefully. Too bad for him, that he started a war. He did not know how bad Russia's army had become through his kleptocratic rule. Worse, he delusionally thinks he is a military genius, and has made disastrous decisions. Not understanding the need for training is absurdly incompetent. Anyone managing people knows the need for training. Sales people need sales training. Janitors need training. Truck drivers need training. Almost anything that people do, they need to be trained. Sending conscripts to battle without training is incomprehensively STUPID. How could Putin be THAT stupid??? I think we can all start the office pool on when we think Putin's rule will end. My bet is 6/9/2022.
@@craigkdillonmeh, since Ukraine operation will not end soon i bet he will be president until 2030s, since he have strong acceptance from Russians (I'm a Russian and everyone here loves putin), and economically everything kinda gotten better, so i see no reason for him to go down apart from wonder by Ukraine army
How's it it going, little clown? We're close to 2024 and Putin's position not only grew stronger, but Ukraine is getting fucked again and again. In fact, after HAMAS' thingy, I don't think anyone even cares about Ukraine )
@@TrueBlue_01 I don't want to have an argument with you, but even though Afghanistan could be considered an insurgency by some (I'd say it's a government. Since by definition, a government is an organized group controlling the legislature, executive, and judiciary functions of a state, and the Taliban does just that.), the USA still lost, and whether the Taliban is an insurgency or not doesn't change this fact. I also wouldn't use the term "just lost", as despite the method of achieving victory or how legitimate you would consider the victory, the Vietcong and their allies did secure victory by holding until US popular support significantly declined.
FYI in Nord-Ost civilians hostages are actualy killed by Putin's police by gas during Counter-terrorist operation. Same as after, in Beslan they blow up children during storm, and before in 1999 when they blow-up houses (Ruazan Sugar) Some calls it conspirology. But Putin like "special operations" like poisoning political opponent, and never count on civilia death (he just psycho)
@@erfarkrasnobay Damn, people in modern era love listen to stories, but do not like to think for themselves. Your mantra is so typically framed under propaganda. Why would you fall from one propaganda to another? Never understood it. Evidence that most victims died from gas. Evidence that children were killed by counter terrorist forces. EVIDENCE. Give it here, prove you words that EUWIL police forces killed intentionally their own citizens. Dont bring Novaya Gazeta or some other shit sources, bring concrete evidence of it. By saying this shit you did, you literally shit on those who died trying to save people, you shit on those who participated wholeheartedly to help people to get out of these places. Libtards do not even surprise with their ruthless disrespect and stupidity anymore.
It did not start as Islamic revolution. The democrats had 80% in the first and 2nd election in Chechnya. Tho a good part of the army was more salafist. That’s the part that Russia always show as the terrorist.
Yeah thats the sad part often when a country doesn't have a strong enough military, they have to relay on militias, which are often radicals, that use there popularity to take over the country, that happened in afghanistan and something similar almost happened in Weimar Germany with the Freikorps.
@@bastian182 They didnt take over the country. They got some positions as governers. They were elected to that positions by parts of the population Maskhadov and Dudaev were both democrats. So it was not something like Afghanistan. But more like Hindenburg in Weimar, as a war hero. Schamil Basaev and Zelimhan Yanderbiev were Islamists. And Maskhadov democrat. Maskhadow won the elections by far. Some districts in chechnya elected islamists into the public offices. The army was shrunk to 2000 men after the war.(it couldnt afford to pay the army at 12k) The problem for the Chechen government was more of a funding problem. After the war, all taxes were decreased and income taxes halted. Russia signed to pay 160 bio$ (but never did) as war reperations. The FSB payed thugs and drug dealers to cause as much reputation damage as they could. The Wahabist movement gave the rest to the Ichkerian reputations with their stupid dump idiocy. There were several other mistakes, which back then didnt seem liek one.- The Saudi, Germany all made their deals with Putin because these idiots fell for this kind of traps.
Indeed, Chechnya was 'salafist' just like Ukraine is 'nazi' even though the president is Jewish and the far right gets fewer votes than it does in most other European countries. Russians and the truth...
Russia just being the warp from 40k is going to be a comparison im never going to forget. Thanks Tommy.
Aware This chat does not know history
My BJJ coach actually fought in front of Kadyrov years ago when he was a pro MMA fighter when cage warriors was in Chechnya
Tommykay be sus in the first 30 seconds
He says hes handsome all the time XD
19:30 us did the same here
Like for real.
He didn't even hear what was said before he had that small meltdown, literally most wars had similar incident, all are awful, but in this one it was even told in the video that Chechens dressed in Russian uniforms, and after a while soldiers got paranoid and couldn't rust anyone.
Edit: grammar
Aware The deadliest school event incident happened here
11:35 Oh no not the peaceful nation if Ichkeriya. Totally not invaded Dagestan before start of 2nd war
Oh no. Russia totally didn’t bomb 2 villages to ashesh after signing a treaty to let them be.
Putin totally didn’t blow up the building in Riazan
@@schaihmansur8298 my family lived in Grozny since 1923. And then after collapse of USSR religious extremists pop up everywhere prohibiting to wear anything other than long skirt for girls. And hunting girls if they found on street wearing pants or something else. People coming to your home saying that you should sell them your home for nothing. And if you don't sell they will take it anyway. And I'm not even talking about things that happened after first war. My family left before 1st war started
@@schaihmansur8298 that's like saying that Bush blowed up Twin Towers. Same level conspiracy. But because it happened in Russia. Westerners are like "YEAH IT WAS PUTIN"
@@SmaukGames Its a lie. Extremists didnt exist in chechnya until 1996 and in grozny, there were no extremists. Whatch videos of the Victory in chechnya from 1996 and even 1999. vast majority of people dressed western. There was onyl one region in chechnya that was extremist and some twoo other that were semi-Sharia. Like Urus Martan or Gudurmes. This bullshit with found on the street wearing pants started with Kadyrow in 2008. You are spinning your together from things that happened under the russian occupation. Many things were fucked up in chechnya. But the extremists were your doing. Schamil turned into a terrorist because your fucking army killed his family and he allied with Khattab. Idi naxuy fascists.
well you can't say america hasn't broken the geneva conventions
This chat is so reactionary, Do they not learn from history?
I had the same thought, they only now started to bark, once the topic is still hot, bark all the nonsense and after a year or two will change their position against something else. Most of people don't care as long as it is trendy to hate on something, they will.
When i see evil behavior being glorified in society, i react by opposing it. Good and evil do not change as history progresses.
Bro its mostly kids and NEETs who will support anything thats unpopular to seem edgy and interesting (in their minds). If Ukraine was ruled by actual swastika armband wearing nazis and Russia was supported by the west, govs and populous, i can guaranteeeeeee you theyd be supporting Ukraine and shitting on Russia 24/7. But since everyone supports Ukraine because duh, a nation has a right to exist and make decisions on its own, they have to support Russia instead.
The funniest ones are eastern or central europeans (as a Pole i see it a lot) who parrot russian propaganda like "NATO expansionism" even tho we LITERALLY BEGGED NATO to take us because we knew Russia wont be in such chaos like in the 90s for long (our government seriously threatened NATO to buy nukes and point them westward, and then threatened Clinton to call all Poles living in US, like 20 million of them, to vote republican - and democrats shat their pants and allowed Poland to join).
So we literally threatened nuclear war to be saved from Russia and now some Polish kids criticise Ukraine for trying to follow the same path we did.
Then again ive never met any Pole who actually thinks that in real life, and we know very well how ABSURD russian troll farms can be, im talking thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people working 9-5 pushing their agenda so it might not even be real Poles at all...
Make a video about the Spanish flu.It,s very interesting(extra history recommended)
dont click the link guys
@@bighillraft what is it?
@@ripleyxo631 idk bro I ain't tryin that sht
@@bighillraft its some graffiti organization idk, its a unsafe link tho
it wasn't on purpose I think
Ah the video your talking about is “chechclear”
I wish I could unsee it.
Chechenslovakia
ChechenRus Federation
the thing about the 2nd chechen war is that they were fighting extremists
Bro you sounded like Tiberius wtf
See, where NATO doctrine for having tanks in urban environments is to have as much infantry support for the tank as possible, Russians prefer the level that shit to the ground so that they can't flank the tank in any buildings approach.
We could make a slide with his videos: from boyhood to manhood 🤣🤣
Tommy showing why slavs are still scared of Germans lmao
But when the same thing happens in US lol 10:32
That chat was filled with shocking amount of one sided racism and bigotry, not sure I should be surprised that it was remotely allowed seeing Tommy's negative view on Russia and Russians from other streams.
L
@@seralys1695what?
@@seralys1695I thought racism was bad. I guess I was wrong. How western principles fall flat when slightly challenged.
@@rarescevei8268 lmao imagine people calling Germans wild in the 30s and 40s for causing 2 world wars, nazism, all that and then some german being like "how can you talk badly about us! Talk about western tolerance!" Like... if uou dont want to be hated maybe dont invade Chechnia i mean Chechnia again i mean Georgia i mean Georgia again (wasnt it 3 times?) I mean Ukraine i mean Ukraine again i mean Ukraine again but full on this time.
See any online hatred on that level towards lets say Poland? No? Why is that? Maybe because theyre not massacring hundreds of thousands of people over the last 20-30 years? Yeah maybe that. Im sure you were as offended when people talked badly about Americans messing up middle east.
Also, I wish somebody would translate Dudaev's interviews for Tommy to see. The guy was cool as a cucumber and quite eloquent. I don't buy the 'Islamic fundamentalists came to power' story.
it didnt matter how cool he was. the fundamentalists had more weapons, more power. and that was all that mattered at that time.
@@curiosity_yesiam no they didnt.
@@schaihmansur8298 argue then, dont just say they didnt
@@curiosity_yesiam they didnt. I dont need to argue with an FSB bot.
@@schaihmansur8298 delusional ichkerian as usual lmfao
The German says something about the Geneva Conventions lmao))))
I think it is obvious that Putin is a great politician and manipulator.
If he had stayed in the political arena, he would have ruled until a ripe old age, and then died peacefully.
Too bad for him, that he started a war.
He did not know how bad Russia's army had become through his kleptocratic rule.
Worse, he delusionally thinks he is a military genius, and has made disastrous decisions.
Not understanding the need for training is absurdly incompetent.
Anyone managing people knows the need for training.
Sales people need sales training.
Janitors need training.
Truck drivers need training.
Almost anything that people do, they need to be trained.
Sending conscripts to battle without training is incomprehensively STUPID.
How could Putin be THAT stupid???
I think we can all start the office pool on when we think Putin's rule will end.
My bet is 6/9/2022.
Wrong prediction
@@xertx1177 When and how do you think Putin's rule will end??
My prediction is a bit aggressive, but possible, I think.
@@craigkdillonmeh, since Ukraine operation will not end soon i bet he will be president until 2030s, since he have strong acceptance from Russians (I'm a Russian and everyone here loves putin), and economically everything kinda gotten better, so i see no reason for him to go down apart from wonder by Ukraine army
How's it it going, little clown? We're close to 2024 and Putin's position not only grew stronger, but Ukraine is getting fucked again and again. In fact, after HAMAS' thingy, I don't think anyone even cares about Ukraine )
Cool story bro
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w kadirov for real
No
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Tommy Lisa listens to you bruh
didnt know tommy was gay
He’s not
You are not first how dare you lie
idi naxuy
Griffin: Largest most powerful nations
Ukraine: I dare to disagree
Same with the US in Afghanistan and Vietnam
@@fyanle1382 afghanistan was insurgency, usa only lost in vietnam because it was unpopular war
@@TrueBlue_01 I don't want to have an argument with you, but even though Afghanistan could be considered an insurgency by some (I'd say it's a government. Since by definition, a government is an organized group controlling the legislature, executive, and judiciary functions of a state, and the Taliban does just that.), the USA still lost, and whether the Taliban is an insurgency or not doesn't change this fact.
I also wouldn't use the term "just lost", as despite the method of achieving victory or how legitimate you would consider the victory, the Vietcong and their allies did secure victory by holding until US popular support significantly declined.
@@xeraphyx7903 the soviets did also lose in afghanistan
@@TrueBlue_01 Yeah, ok, that is a thing that happened.
I will post in comments under this post to know is my post pass throug automoderation
FYI in Nord-Ost civilians hostages are actualy killed by Putin's police by gas during Counter-terrorist operation.
Same as after, in Beslan they blow up children during storm, and before in 1999 when they blow-up houses (Ruazan Sugar)
Some calls it conspirology. But Putin like "special operations" like poisoning political opponent, and never count on civilia death (he just psycho)
@@erfarkrasnobay Damn, people in modern era love listen to stories, but do not like to think for themselves. Your mantra is so typically framed under propaganda. Why would you fall from one propaganda to another? Never understood it. Evidence that most victims died from gas. Evidence that children were killed by counter terrorist forces. EVIDENCE. Give it here, prove you words that EUWIL police forces killed intentionally their own citizens. Dont bring Novaya Gazeta or some other shit sources, bring concrete evidence of it. By saying this shit you did, you literally shit on those who died trying to save people, you shit on those who participated wholeheartedly to help people to get out of these places. Libtards do not even surprise with their ruthless disrespect and stupidity anymore.
I'm gay and the Armchair Historian is HOOOOT
First
It did not start as Islamic revolution. The democrats had 80% in the first and 2nd election in Chechnya. Tho a good part of the army was more salafist. That’s the part that Russia always show as the terrorist.
Yeah thats the sad part often when a country doesn't have a strong enough military, they have to relay on militias, which are often radicals, that use there popularity to take over the country, that happened in afghanistan and something similar almost happened in Weimar Germany with the Freikorps.
@@bastian182 They didnt take over the country. They got some positions as governers. They were elected to that positions by parts of the population Maskhadov and Dudaev were both democrats. So it was not something like Afghanistan. But more like Hindenburg in Weimar, as a war hero.
Schamil Basaev and Zelimhan Yanderbiev were Islamists. And Maskhadov democrat. Maskhadow won the elections by far. Some districts in chechnya elected islamists into the public offices. The army was shrunk to 2000 men after the war.(it couldnt afford to pay the army at 12k) The problem for the Chechen government was more of a funding problem. After the war, all taxes were decreased and income taxes halted. Russia signed to pay 160 bio$ (but never did) as war reperations. The FSB payed thugs and drug dealers to cause as much reputation damage as they could.
The Wahabist movement gave the rest to the Ichkerian reputations with their stupid dump idiocy.
There were several other mistakes, which back then didnt seem liek one.- The Saudi, Germany all made their deals with Putin because these idiots fell for this kind of traps.
@@schaihmansur8298 ok thanks for the correction I didn't know that
Indeed, Chechnya was 'salafist' just like Ukraine is 'nazi' even though the president is Jewish and the far right gets fewer votes than it does in most other European countries. Russians and the truth...
@@adamhall5298 there are many Nazis in Russia, that openly say they are nazis, maybe the U.S and China should denazify russia?
3f anti russia tomy
Shamil was not a "extremist"
Да, гораздо хуже, он был террористом-рейдером