Hope you are better Megan. Dont forget water fasting for 72 hours will heal the body rapidly. Channel Dr MIndy Pelz fasting vdi: 7 types of fasting, what to drink on a fast and refeed after a fast are good vids to start with. If not fully healed up then do another 72 hour water fast. This works!! Thanks Nick for the crossing vds.
Thank you! I love Dr. Mindy and I regularly do intermittent fasting. The longest I've done is 41 hours, but I'd really like to try the 72 hours@@jansmith3158
Congrats on a 41 hour fast! Great job I know that you eat well I figured you also did longer fasting. Yes, the 72 hour ones are hard at first but, once you do one your body can do them more often something just clicks in the brain. Dr Mindy has a vid "what can you drink on a fast"...some things are plain mineral water = this is a game changer for doing longer fast. Also a russian doctor who does dry fastng (see Dr Michelle Slater dry fasting) recommends 6 Km walks daily when fasting. This helps too (obviously not so easy when you crossing oceans lol). Cheers to good health. Congrats on your beautfiul new cat!! Take care@@TheOKellys
@TheOKellys... Ok, I have to provide this feedback at the risk of jinxing it for all. The last 3 videos were simply amazing. They are the type of videos you produced few years ago. They are about sailing with tons of education. That what I was after and finally got it back. No a big fun watching videos of people walking the forest... But this series.... Pure gold. Looking forward to the next one.
" Two-Captains-One-Hat," can't be easy when you're the guy not wearing the hat? The Admiralty in France wants their vessel at that boat show ready to go and if that means that the ride is gonna be a little rough? I get it. Your approach to The Cruising Lifestyle is a lot more sane and definitely a model to follow when you put the hat back on and I am sure that the folks over at Outremer will take comfort in those kinds of decisions when you and Megan are out their with their product. Agree or Disagree, those seasoned sailors can still teach us all a thing or two and I wish you all the success in discovering what those lessons are.
Your advice on how to use and verify the weather models is gold! Those few minutes of this video may be the most valuable few minutes of any sailing UA-cam video that I have seen. I'd love to see more weather and sailing analysis by you. In particular, I wonder how much can you tell about the next few hours by noticing what is around you at the moment.
I second this. With so many UA-camrs offering, IMHO, courses of dubious usefulness ( with many not even qualified to teach said courses) a weather course by Nick would stand out as a rose among the thorns. A meteorologist who has sailed for years, your training and experience is priceless! I am very careful about the courses I pay for, but I would definitely pay for a weather course from Nick!
100% on that. I usually choose the one I prefer and keep saying prayers to the weather gods to pull the other models into line. I then start the acceptance phase where the 15 knot 1 metre swell model was done by the office receptionist while the meteorologists were at a birthday party lunch.
Absolutely agree with this. Nick, I would happily join as a patron for more videos talking about passage planning, weather routing, and how to identify changes to weather patterns whilst on passage.
When it comes to weather models, I have not done any. However, I get models and modeling. 1. All models are wrong. Start there and don't forget it. 2. Some models are useful. Thus the question is exactly what you discussed in the which weather model to use. 3. When is a specific model useful. The big word scientists use to describe the answer to that is model validation. Thank you for a useful discussion of weather models.
As long as Captain Jean-Marc is not putting anyone in danger it's best to remain silent and give him the respect and courtesy you've been showing to him. After all, he is a veteran captain. That being said, if I were Captain Jean-Marc, I would be elated to have a veteran meteorologist on board and I would be utilizing that weather forecasting expertise, big time. To each their own, I guess. Fair winds and following seas ⛵🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
No, the captain did not put the boat or crew in danger. I found him to be safety minded and generally good at handling sails. The question of routing, in my mind is central here. A boat like this has tremendous capability, but where you point the bows will have tremendous impact on comfort and speed.
Yes, Nick, you may be 50 years old, but you do look 35! Love the video, particularly the dolphins leaping out of the water in front of the boat. Oh my! Love to Megan.
Saw you safely arrive in decent time in BVI. Vaguely uncomfortable command situation. Having done a few Gunboat deliveries from Capetown where comfort wasn’t even a remote consideration, I can relate. But when you’re young and used to racing it’s not so important. Do no damage to the boat is the limiting factor in speed of passage on deliveries. Hope Megan has fully recovered. Best wishes for the New Year.
So Nick, the boat was fine and it seems that the rig wasn't even stressed, so the main issue is the noise? This becomes a big deal with enough nights where you lose sleep or don't sleep well - this becomes dangerous. When you aren't well rested, you make mistakes and they can snowball. Great to get you take on the various models!@@TheOKellys
You can really see why companies, and private sellers, stop dealing with him. Kids, this is a life lesson kids on what not to do as you get old. He simply cannot get along with others and it shows. I suspect that he suffered from this all his life but to a lessor degree. Unfortunately, as one ages your defects reveal themselves more and more. It is very unlikely that he will ever overcome this and get another Catamaran. Very sad to watch this happen. Outremer and all other companies will never inter into another deal with him as his reputation is ruined by this point. Nothing he can do to change this as this deep rooted personality disorder cannot be changed.
Thanks for taking us along. I wonder, this may have been the first time since you both began to sail that Megan and you would be apart for so long! The intuitive routing may be part of the overall enjoyment, and I feel there would be those who would like to do it that way regardless of their age! I would prefer a modern technological approach, though I’d want to be able to route intuitively as well. All the best!
Nick, your explanation of weather modeling is very well done. I always copy your url, paste into a word doc and put in its corresponding folder. I have over 100 folder of which the O''Kelly's occupy the majority... Thanks again for all you do, I am sure I will see you on the water someday.
Nick: I suggest this route. Captain: No. We are taking this route. Nick: Do you know who I am? Captain: I don't care, you young whippersnapper. Just teasing Nick (and Captain). That is quite a boat. I cannot see a couple making a long passage on it without a crew. Great video, as usual. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
The skipper is appointed by Outremer. It is their boat and for everyones safety the skipper rules, accepts advice and is 100% responsible for the out come. Worth reading 'The Children of the Sea' by Joseph Conrad. The skipper is not Sir Cloudsley Shovel.
I fully understand. I was making a joke and didn't intend to demean anyone or question anyone's decisions. I have sailed many times on many boats with many skippers. It is their call and I've always done my best to follow the captain's plans, decisions and orders. I will check out the Joesph Conrad book. Thanks.@@philgray3443
You can really see why companies, and private sellers, stop dealing with him. Kids, this is a life lesson kids on what not to do as you get old. He simply cannot get along with others and it shows. I suspect that he suffered from this all his life but to a lessor degree. Unfortunately, as one ages your defects reveal themselves more and more. It is very unlikely that he will ever overcome this and get another Catamaran. Very sad to watch this happen. Outremer and all other companies will never inter into another deal with him as his reputation is ruined by this point. Nothing he can do to change this as this deep rooted personality disorder cannot be changed.
Well that looks like fun. I did a delivery with an ex Americas Cup sailor. He brought a bag of charts for a 650 mile coastal trip. He put the big one out and said by waving a finger, we're going here and here and we'll see. Then he put the charts in the bag and said, they are here if anyone is interested in them. That was the last time they came out of the bag in 4 days. He knew every light, every mark without a doubt.
I kept waiting to hear official on-boat discussion en français. Was there a mutiny? Thank you Megan for the Better Help spot! Great pod views Nick. They are beautiful animals. Best forecasting model? A Very thoughtful description of how to use multiple forecasting models. C’est magnifique…and may help gracious salty dogs learn new tricks?
The dynamic between you and the Captain was fascinating. You knew your information favored the southerly route, while the captain held his to “gut” or to SW,,until it became disadvantageous. He clearly had marching orders from Outremer to make haste and so took the chance on the more direct route, at least for a time. To his credit, he adjusted accordingly. There appeared to be a high degree of mutual respect between you both. I did wonder if the majority crew decision to speak only French, while half in jest, wasn’t an actual demand. 😮
lol, it was in jest. There was no friction aboard. I gave my opinion and advice, but the decisions were his, and the responsibility his as well. He did eat all my pretzels, and that pissed me off a little. lol.
Hey Nick, I'm really shocked at this "Captain"! Not using models for routing!? Is this the stone age or what!? My sailing mentor that thought my how to be a skipper 24 years ago, he's french and over 75 years old now btw, uses everything he can get his hands on to rout all sea journeys to the best of his ability. This guy is like, let's fly a plane with no instruments in IFR conditions and use my gut feeling...!? WTF!? Plus his overall attitude towards the mission that is the crossing, I'd never sail under a skipper so unprofessional and clearly so unskilled. It's one thing to know how to sail a boat, it's a completely different story knowing how to skipper it. I'm at awe how Outremer hired a person like this! Are they this desperate to find skippers!? Hope you've made it in one piece! All the best to you and Megan.
Your analogy of the mkt conditions to wind and seas was great. The Captain going by his old feel gut feeling and not using technology was frankly quite surreal. That is how boats and their crew used to get into trouble. Great video, miss Meagan giving her 2 cents worth. Love you guys
Full with you on the predict wind models, specifically the pwg and pwe models. Personally, I am not into planning for the best and experiencing the worst (a.k.a the FAFO lifestyle😂). Preparing for the worst and hopefully experiencing the best is, traditionally speaking, the best way to go! Fair winds and following sails is a saying for a reason ha. #followthescience ! Just subscribed btw. VERY interesting, unique, informative, and entertaining channel!
Nick, thank you for your after action report and explanation of how you use wx models. I agree with everyone, the dolphin footage is spectacular! Megan, glad to get a positive update on your health.
Good bit on the routing looking at weather softare. THe captain is having a "dlivery captain" mind and acts acordingly. Not what you would have done but I can see where he's coming from. Hopefully Megan is getting back to good health soon.
We've been watching you for years, thank you! Megan, look into using colloidal silver for cold and even to spray on cuts or burns for fast healing! Silver was used for many, many years very successfully prior to antibiotics. My mom and other friends have been using it for 20+ years and now it's our "go to" at the first sign of sickness! Great ocean crossing, I can relate with not being able to "capture" the size of waves on my trip home from Bermuda to Marblehead. 🌊🌊
Silver is a heavy metal neurotoxin that can cross the blood brain barrier. It can cause neuropathy, and also result in kidney and liver damage. It is not an essential mineral, and there is no known biological benefit from it for the human body. It is a toxic heavy metal. Employees of Kodak got plenty of silver in their system back when film was a thing, and it resulted in early dementia and other brain issues. You be you. Take anything you want. It's a free world. But at the same time, I suggest people take a second look before going off internet advice. Scandinavia used to love the stuff, until it made people permanently sick. Even Chinese homeopathic practitioners have walked back the stuff, and western integrative medicine orgs are actively advocating people no put toxic heavy metals in their body. Not trying to start an argument (this will be my only comment on this topic here). Hopefully you would agree that health advice from online commenters generally should have all points of view. Information is free, and you get what you pay for. Have a great day!
I respect Jean-Marc way. Maybe we see too much preoccupation with routing and fixation on numbers and data. More rewarding to get it right without such dependance on technology and reliance on good old fashioned instinct and experience.
Fully agree. Peoble tend to believe what a computer screen is telling them. But a model is just a model as can easily be seen by their different results. That captain has maybe crossed the AO 30 or 40 times so he knows his stuff.
I guess I should have taken onboard the information you shared on weather routing - but I really had to keep rewinding to that dolphin sequence. Amazing stuff.
Hey! Nick & Megan, just saw a Chris White Atlantic 57 (Cerulean) up for sale, there is a you tube vid. And yeah, that skipper is not one I'd be willing to do a significant passage with. Little too loose goosey for me.
I am not surprised at your frustrations not being great captain! I was afraid that would happen In the beginning! Well life is all about adventures and this will certainly be one for you! 😅
With Nick aboard, Outremer might be getting more than what they had bargained for! Go Nick, Go!! A bit surprising: Jean-Marc's casual admission that routing apps are, more or less, a colourful gadget to keep the kids busy and out of trouble!😏
A ridiculous remark maybe you should remind yourself of the death of a German couple a few month ago off the eastcoast relying on a completely sh***ty forecast.
1) A forecast can't be expected to guarantee anything. It's a tool in your toolbox. Ever since Edward Lorenz, we know that weather prediction is extremely hard. 2) They were killed by their mainsheet swinging wildly (was it an accidental gybe?).@@johnmayer3433
Great shooting, that's how it looks on board. I think shooting through parts of the boat and crew on board, using the camera sensor to keep the image horizon level seems to be part of capturing the waves. You can dance on a catamaran in seas, just don't lift your feet doing it. How I stayed awake the last hour of my night watches.
And that's a good illustration of knowledge vs wisdom. The skipper is 100% right that there's more wind North. However that's not the faster way since it's so uncomfortable that the crew can't rest and perform well. At some point the rougher seas physically slow the boat down too. Up and down (heave and pitch) are not VMG. And there's skin and form drag from waves.
We do a mix of routing and old fashioned gut feel planning. But I don’t have a meteorologist on board. I don’t understand he didn’t use your knowledge, missed chance for the captain. As for the outremer? I have followed this trip ( and will continue) as well as “awen” and “great circle” they all seem to hobby horse too much. They all go fast, but it seems far less comfortable than some other heavier boats. Their light weight I presume or maybe it’s their relatively small beam? As a live aboard family this is certainly not what we would choose. I think many people are being ill advised to call these family cruising boats.
Hey there, loved to see Everything... Especially the Outremer Catamaran Captain wearing the Dragonfly Trimaran T-shirt. Go Dragonfly! The music background (I assume most of it your own creation, Nick) was especially nice. Great dolphin movies.
Are you kidding me?? Captain Crunch over there, hired by Outremer, relies on his "gut feeling" instead of modern day weather routing? The only thing your gut should be telling you is whether that burrito was a good idea.
Yep instinct, experience and good judgement like the many thousands of sailors that crossed oceans before routing software existing. Absolutely nothing wrong with sailors choosing not to use routing software. It’s a choice. Leave out the insults.
@alexfuller818 Not using all the tools afforded to you is foolish. There is such a thing as information overload, this isn't it. There are no valid reasons to just gut it out when you have a choice.
@@terryroth9707you can choose to pay close attention to forecasts, weather patterns, without using a routing software and that will be sufficient for they individual to make the decision they are comfortable with. Jimmy Cornell cruising guides don’t reference routing softwares at all, but reference data such as historic ocean weather patterns. It’s a choice and it’s certainly not wreckess to not use a routing software.
@@alexfuller818 Speaking of insulting, Nick is a meteorologist. How insulting do you think it was for him, that the Captain didn't listen to him? Not using all the available wisdom onboard was indeed foolish and had little to do with "gut" and a lot to do with ego.
Having an experienced sailor who is also a meteorologist aboard yet routing an Atlantic crossing by gut feel is a fine example of a red flag both on competencies and character. I am glad you made it across and we got a video instead of a news report about sailors in destress.
Choosing your course and departure date is easy with "old fashioned" pilot charts. However, once you get start your passage, you are THERE and you'd better be ready for whatever Mother Nature has in store. For example, almost everyone gets hammered after crossing 30 south on the way to NZ. (You might be getting a little heavy on the advertising, Nick.....)
re: MInute 21 --- "You don't need a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows." (But if you happen to have one handy, it helps with granular planning, no?)
I realized watching your video what interests me in following sailing channels like yours. I like to watch them because they are educative and a great immersion into the sailing life, and I am not looking for entertainment. This was a great video, thank you. I am confused however as to which boat this is, is this "your" boat ? Maybe I missed that from another episode, but I thought it was your boat.
@@PeteLeuenberger My understanding is it depends on the definition of foreseeable. As I've understood it it would be perhaps ~6-9 months. Maybe even a little longer. But my memory isn't perfect and I could be off by a couple of months. When's the Annapolis boat show? My guess is that Moonshoot will make an appearance...
Great video of the crossing. I was amazed that the delivery captain uses intuitive passage planning as opposed to real time data from PredictWind used by a Blue Water cruiser and meteorologist. You are a patient man. The boat is awesome!
If his intuition is simply to "arrive" than I suppose it works well lol but he might want to listen to the youngin' next time. That chart makes it pretty clear you'd have had a easier time heading south, with no remarkable loss in time. C'est la vie!
Excellent job on capturing the size of the waves and overall sea state. When I am in bigger waves, I hold my phone up to capture them, and I look at the waves, then look at the phone, but the waves are not in the phone!. How does it do that?
"35". Whenever I witness how spacious & comfortable these things are in large swell, does my head in how that other couple ditched theirs for a trimaran, rather than wait for their little ones to be teenagers.
Can you make a video for us newbies on how we should go about plotting a course while including the weather? It would be huge to understand what routes to take and why. You mentioned in this video that the other route wouldn't had been so rough can you please explain this as well.
Great episode ‼️ Nick m with your current few conversations,especially in this episode, I'm getting a hint that the goal you started with of a real performance cat, may be shifting.....just a bit. The word comfortable is coming up a ton. And that's OK. See you next time. ✨ 🌊 💨 ⛵️ 🏝️ 👙 🌞 ✨
Nick, fantastic videos on this series. You always do a great job, but these really tell the story. In the end, will you reach Miami within the expected timeframe? The tracker has you sitting in the BVI for like the last 48 hours. Maybe it is not updating? With the weather coming between that position and Miami, is his plan to just endure or hold up some place?
Always look forward to seeing how you've progressed in your journey. i peeked and checked out the link you sent us on last weeks video and saw you made it to Frenchmans Cay. Looking forward to seeing how this journey went. Hope Megan is feeling better, she brings a lot to the videos and I've been missing her content.
My understanding with aviation forecasts, which all major airports produce (lookup the TAF for any airport). They have a number of forecasters working independently, the individual forecasts are then compared, the outliers discarded and the majority opinion published.
That's interesting, I was told that was the process on a UK instructors course but I don't know the original source or whether the US has a different process@@TheOKellys
Nice episode guys, thanks. Funny to see you sailing out of Las Palmas past that big Sail For Jesus ketch. She was there when we left aboard Komotion a couple of months ago. Quick question: I noticed you had a few rolls in the jib when things were a bit fruity rather than switching to the staysail. Personally I hate sailing with my jib furled since the shape is pretty crap, especially when you're trying to go upwind. Any reason you didn't opt for the staysail instead? Wishing M a speedy recovery.
Good question. When sailing deeper and the boat already has too much weather helm and is rounding up when a quartering sea hits (like it was for us in that situation), it’s better (in my opinion) to have more pressure further forward. Using the staysail there would create even more imbalance unless going to third reef in the main…and that would have underpowered the boat for those winds. Most of my staysail experience was on our cutter, Low Pressure. For upwind work in strong winds, it was invaluable. Off the wind a reefed but billowing Genoa was better, even if a bit ugly.
It's odd that over the past few months, on so many of the sailing channels, boats doing crossings of the Atlantic and Pacific lost a sail. I don't recall this happening nearly as mcu in '22.
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Hope you are better Megan. Dont forget water fasting for 72 hours will heal the body rapidly. Channel Dr MIndy Pelz fasting vdi: 7 types of fasting, what to drink on a fast and refeed after a fast are good vids to start with. If not fully healed up then do another 72 hour water fast. This works!!
Thanks Nick for the crossing vds.
Thank you! I love Dr. Mindy and I regularly do intermittent fasting. The longest I've done is 41 hours, but I'd really like to try the 72 hours@@jansmith3158
Congrats on a 41 hour fast! Great job I know that you eat well I figured you also did longer fasting. Yes, the 72 hour ones are hard at first but, once you do one your body can do them more often something just clicks in the brain. Dr Mindy has a vid "what can you drink on a fast"...some things are plain mineral water = this is a game changer for doing longer fast. Also a russian doctor who does dry fastng (see Dr Michelle Slater dry fasting) recommends 6 Km walks daily when fasting. This helps too (obviously not so easy when you crossing oceans lol). Cheers to good health. Congrats on your beautfiul new cat!! Take care@@TheOKellys
@TheOKellys... Ok, I have to provide this feedback at the risk of jinxing it for all.
The last 3 videos were simply amazing. They are the type of videos you produced few years ago.
They are about sailing with tons of education.
That what I was after and finally got it back.
No a big fun watching videos of people walking the forest...
But this series.... Pure gold. Looking forward to the next one.
Thank you
Epic dolphin segment. It deserves an award. The segment on weather modeling was excellent. More on weather, wind and routing please. Cheers!
Agree, love to get that weather knowledge on how to make good decisions.
" Two-Captains-One-Hat," can't be easy when you're the guy not wearing the hat? The Admiralty in France wants their vessel at that boat show ready to go and if that means that the ride is gonna be a little rough? I get it. Your approach to The Cruising Lifestyle is a lot more sane and definitely a model to follow when you put the hat back on and I am sure that the folks over at Outremer will take comfort in those kinds of decisions when you and Megan are out their with their product. Agree or Disagree, those seasoned sailors can still teach us all a thing or two and I wish you all the success in discovering what those lessons are.
Your advice on how to use and verify the weather models is gold! Those few minutes of this video may be the most valuable few minutes of any sailing UA-cam video that I have seen. I'd love to see more weather and sailing analysis by you. In particular, I wonder how much can you tell about the next few hours by noticing what is around you at the moment.
Appreciate that. I'll do more of that. Maybe on the O'Kelly Tech channel
I second this. With so many UA-camrs offering, IMHO, courses of dubious usefulness ( with many not even qualified to teach said courses) a weather course by Nick would stand out as a rose among the thorns. A meteorologist who has sailed for years, your training and experience is priceless! I am very careful about the courses I pay for, but I would definitely pay for a weather course from Nick!
100% on that. I usually choose the one I prefer and keep saying prayers to the weather gods to pull the other models into line. I then start the acceptance phase where the 15 knot 1 metre swell model was done by the office receptionist while the meteorologists were at a birthday party lunch.
Absolutely agree with this. Nick, I would happily join as a patron for more videos talking about passage planning, weather routing, and how to identify changes to weather patterns whilst on passage.
Watching dolphins never gets old, thanks Nick!
Hope you are back on your feet soon Megan.
When it comes to weather models, I have not done any. However, I get models and modeling.
1. All models are wrong. Start there and don't forget it.
2. Some models are useful. Thus the question is exactly what you discussed in the which weather model to use.
3. When is a specific model useful. The big word scientists use to describe the answer to that is model validation.
Thank you for a useful discussion of weather models.
As long as Captain Jean-Marc is not putting anyone in danger it's best to remain silent and give him the respect and courtesy you've been showing to him. After all, he is a veteran captain. That being said, if I were Captain Jean-Marc, I would be elated to have a veteran meteorologist on board and I would be utilizing that weather forecasting expertise, big time. To each their own, I guess. Fair winds and following seas ⛵🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
No, the captain did not put the boat or crew in danger. I found him to be safety minded and generally good at handling sails. The question of routing, in my mind is central here. A boat like this has tremendous capability, but where you point the bows will have tremendous impact on comfort and speed.
Yes, Nick, you may be 50 years old, but you do look 35!
Love the video, particularly the dolphins leaping out of the water in front of the boat. Oh my!
Love to Megan.
Fantastic slo-mo shots on the dolphins
And thanks for fixing the Captain's shirt tag, Nick 😁9:35 - 9:37
Best slomo on dolphins I've seen!
Saw you safely arrive in decent time in BVI. Vaguely uncomfortable command situation. Having done a few Gunboat deliveries from Capetown where comfort wasn’t even a remote consideration, I can relate. But when you’re young and used to racing it’s not so important. Do no damage to the boat is the limiting factor in speed of passage on deliveries. Hope Megan has fully recovered. Best wishes for the New Year.
Thank you. Yes, the size, age and fitness of the crew really matter on a fast boat. It is no small thing!
So Nick, the boat was fine and it seems that the rig wasn't even stressed, so the main issue is the noise? This becomes a big deal with enough nights where you lose sleep or don't sleep well - this becomes dangerous. When you aren't well rested, you make mistakes and they can snowball. Great to get you take on the various models!@@TheOKellys
You can really see why companies, and private sellers, stop dealing with him. Kids, this is a life lesson kids on what not to do as you get old. He simply cannot get along with others and it shows. I suspect that he suffered from this all his life but to a lessor degree. Unfortunately, as one ages your defects reveal themselves more and more. It is very unlikely that he will ever overcome this and get another Catamaran. Very sad to watch this happen. Outremer and all other companies will never inter into another deal with him as his reputation is ruined by this point. Nothing he can do to change this as this deep rooted personality disorder cannot be changed.
the videos are never " TOO " long. stay safe guys
Such a cool and real video! Thanks so much for taking us along, and thanks for your presentation and honest commentary of this journey. You rock!
You rock! Thanks
It's nice to see our local weatherman make another appearance! Thanks Nick
Thanks for taking us along.
I wonder, this may have been the first time since you both began to sail that Megan and you would be apart for so long!
The intuitive routing may be part of the overall enjoyment, and I feel there would be those who would like to do it that way regardless of their age! I would prefer a modern technological approach, though I’d want to be able to route intuitively as well.
All the best!
We haven't been apart this long in.....probably 20 years
Just saw you at Saint Thomas port entry, just arriving? Nice to see you made it across
Nick, your explanation of weather modeling is very well done. I always copy your url, paste into a word doc and put in its corresponding folder. I have over 100 folder of which the O''Kelly's occupy the majority... Thanks again for all you do, I am sure I will see you on the water someday.
What a story! Safe sailing!❤
Oh......it gets....crazier
Nick: I suggest this route.
Captain: No. We are taking this route.
Nick: Do you know who I am?
Captain: I don't care, you young whippersnapper.
Just teasing Nick (and Captain). That is quite a boat. I cannot see a couple making a long passage on it without a crew.
Great video, as usual. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
lol. Megan and I could handle that boat ourselves, no issue. We’d make different choices of course, but yeh….no problem.
The skipper is appointed by Outremer. It is their boat and for everyones safety the skipper rules, accepts advice and is 100% responsible for the out come. Worth reading 'The Children of the Sea' by Joseph Conrad. The skipper is not Sir Cloudsley Shovel.
I fully understand. I was making a joke and didn't intend to demean anyone or question anyone's decisions. I have sailed many times on many boats with many skippers. It is their call and I've always done my best to follow the captain's plans, decisions and orders. I will check out the Joesph Conrad book. Thanks.@@philgray3443
You can really see why companies, and private sellers, stop dealing with him. Kids, this is a life lesson kids on what not to do as you get old. He simply cannot get along with others and it shows. I suspect that he suffered from this all his life but to a lessor degree. Unfortunately, as one ages your defects reveal themselves more and more. It is very unlikely that he will ever overcome this and get another Catamaran. Very sad to watch this happen. Outremer and all other companies will never inter into another deal with him as his reputation is ruined by this point. Nothing he can do to change this as this deep rooted personality disorder cannot be changed.
Well that looks like fun. I did a delivery with an ex Americas Cup sailor. He brought a bag of charts for a 650 mile coastal trip. He put the big one out and said by waving a finger, we're going here and here and we'll see. Then he put the charts in the bag and said, they are here if anyone is interested in them. That was the last time they came out of the bag in 4 days. He knew every light, every mark without a doubt.
I kept waiting to hear official on-boat discussion en français. Was there a mutiny?
Thank you Megan for the Better Help spot! Great pod views Nick. They are beautiful animals.
Best forecasting model? A Very thoughtful description of how to use multiple forecasting models. C’est magnifique…and may help gracious salty dogs learn new tricks?
Brilliant, back to your best. Just a great story teller.
Really great video, especially loved the dolphins, what a beautiful image.
Great video Nick. There is a lesson, work is work, and even something you love turns into the doldrums when it is work.
You handled that conversation about routes/software plotting well.
Your "How to know what weather model is the best" section reminds me of a mental Kalman Filter.
The dynamic between you and the Captain was fascinating. You knew your information favored the southerly route, while the captain held his to “gut” or to SW,,until it became disadvantageous. He clearly had marching orders from Outremer to make haste and so took the chance on the more direct route, at least for a time. To his credit, he adjusted accordingly. There appeared to be a high degree of mutual respect between you both. I did wonder if the majority crew decision to speak only French, while half in jest, wasn’t an actual demand. 😮
lol, it was in jest. There was no friction aboard. I gave my opinion and advice, but the decisions were his, and the responsibility his as well. He did eat all my pretzels, and that pissed me off a little. lol.
@@TheOKellys ..... they are not good for you anyways. The 35 look.
That was a really good analogy, learning a lot from all these experiences.
Excellent. Much respect!❤
Hey Nick, I'm really shocked at this "Captain"!
Not using models for routing!?
Is this the stone age or what!?
My sailing mentor that thought my how to be a skipper 24 years ago, he's french and over 75 years old now btw, uses everything he can get his hands on to rout all sea journeys to the best of his ability.
This guy is like, let's fly a plane with no instruments in IFR conditions and use my gut feeling...!? WTF!?
Plus his overall attitude towards the mission that is the crossing, I'd never sail under a skipper so unprofessional and clearly so unskilled.
It's one thing to know how to sail a boat, it's a completely different story knowing how to skipper it.
I'm at awe how Outremer hired a person like this! Are they this desperate to find skippers!?
Hope you've made it in one piece!
All the best to you and Megan.
Your analogy of the mkt conditions to wind and seas was great. The Captain going by his old feel gut feeling and not using technology was frankly quite surreal. That is how boats and their crew used to get into trouble. Great video, miss Meagan giving her 2 cents worth. Love you guys
Dolphins are so beautifully shot!! Wow. 🎉🎉
Full with you on the predict wind models, specifically the pwg and pwe models. Personally, I am not into planning for the best and experiencing the worst (a.k.a the FAFO lifestyle😂). Preparing for the worst and hopefully experiencing the best is, traditionally speaking, the best way to go! Fair winds and following sails is a saying for a reason ha. #followthescience ! Just subscribed btw. VERY interesting, unique, informative, and entertaining channel!
Nick, thank you for your after action report and explanation of how you use wx models. I agree with everyone, the dolphin footage is spectacular!
Megan, glad to get a positive update on your health.
Good bit on the routing looking at weather softare. THe captain is having a "dlivery captain" mind and acts acordingly. Not what you would have done but I can see where he's coming from. Hopefully Megan is getting back to good health soon.
We've been watching you for years, thank you! Megan, look into using colloidal silver for cold and even to spray on cuts or burns for fast healing! Silver was used for many, many years very successfully prior to antibiotics. My mom and other friends have been using it for 20+ years and now it's our "go to" at the first sign of sickness! Great ocean crossing, I can relate with not being able to "capture" the size of waves on my trip home from Bermuda to Marblehead. 🌊🌊
Silver is a heavy metal neurotoxin that can cross the blood brain barrier. It can cause neuropathy, and also result in kidney and liver damage. It is not an essential mineral, and there is no known biological benefit from it for the human body. It is a toxic heavy metal. Employees of Kodak got plenty of silver in their system back when film was a thing, and it resulted in early dementia and other brain issues.
You be you. Take anything you want. It's a free world. But at the same time, I suggest people take a second look before going off internet advice. Scandinavia used to love the stuff, until it made people permanently sick. Even Chinese homeopathic practitioners have walked back the stuff, and western integrative medicine orgs are actively advocating people no put toxic heavy metals in their body.
Not trying to start an argument (this will be my only comment on this topic here). Hopefully you would agree that health advice from online commenters generally should have all points of view. Information is free, and you get what you pay for. Have a great day!
I respect Jean-Marc way. Maybe we see too much preoccupation with routing and fixation on numbers and data. More rewarding to get it right without such dependance on technology and reliance on good old fashioned instinct and experience.
Fully agree. Peoble tend to believe what a computer screen is telling them. But a model is just a model as can easily be seen by their different results. That captain has maybe crossed the AO 30 or 40 times so he knows his stuff.
Great episode! Stay safe and keep getting better O`Kelly's! 👍👍
We good. Thank you!
@@TheOKellys 👍👍
I've made that passage before aboard TeVega that is now called DEVA. Such a fun time being out at sea like that for so long. Great dolphin shots.
This looks like fun
Really some of the best Dolphin/Catamaran 😊 footage ever! Congrats. That’s cut’s a viral short!
I should make a little clip!
I guess I should have taken onboard the information you shared on weather routing - but I really had to keep rewinding to that dolphin sequence. Amazing stuff.
yes it was good. but learning is fun. i had a problem like his on a sail in Lake Michigan.
Great video thank you. Nice combo of technical stuff and beautiful photography (dolphins were amazing!)
Hey! Nick & Megan, just saw a Chris White Atlantic 57 (Cerulean) up for sale, there is a you tube vid. And yeah, that skipper is not one I'd be willing to do a significant passage with. Little too loose goosey for me.
Interesting to see the captain wearing a T-shirt from Dragonfly trimarans
Can't wait to see more
Wow great video. Really enjoyed the weather forecasting
I am not surprised at your frustrations not being great captain! I was afraid that would happen In the beginning! Well life is all about adventures and this will certainly be one for you! 😅
Thanks for the uplifting video. education with humor and truth. Au Revoir till the next video mes Amis.
❤the dolphin 🐬🐬🐬 clip, the best I have ever seen
With Nick aboard, Outremer might be getting more than what they had bargained for! Go Nick, Go!!
A bit surprising: Jean-Marc's casual admission that routing apps are, more or less, a colourful gadget to keep the kids busy and out of trouble!😏
Agreed. Absolutely outrageous. Downright dangerous when sailing offshore. Keep up the honesty Nick!
A ridiculous remark maybe you should remind yourself of the death of a German couple a few month ago off the eastcoast relying on a completely sh***ty forecast.
1) A forecast can't be expected to guarantee anything. It's a tool in your toolbox. Ever since Edward Lorenz, we know that weather prediction is extremely hard.
2) They were killed by their mainsheet swinging wildly (was it an accidental gybe?).@@johnmayer3433
I really wish I could come see you in Miami. It’s great to follow your adventures here.
Great shooting, that's how it looks on board. I think shooting through parts of the boat and crew on board, using the camera sensor to keep the image horizon level seems to be part of capturing the waves. You can dance on a catamaran in seas, just don't lift your feet doing it. How I stayed awake the last hour of my night watches.
Great production quality.
Dam good explanation on weather, and it must be fun eating Megan’s provisions and Nicks snack run
What super video skills with the Dolphin 'slowmos'
Thank you
And that's a good illustration of knowledge vs wisdom. The skipper is 100% right that there's more wind North. However that's not the faster way since it's so uncomfortable that the crew can't rest and perform well. At some point the rougher seas physically slow the boat down too. Up and down (heave and pitch) are not VMG. And there's skin and form drag from waves.
We do a mix of routing and old fashioned gut feel planning. But I don’t have a meteorologist on board. I don’t understand he didn’t use your knowledge, missed chance for the captain. As for the outremer? I have followed this trip ( and will continue) as well as “awen” and “great circle” they all seem to hobby horse too much. They all go fast, but it seems far less comfortable than some other heavier boats. Their light weight I presume or maybe it’s their relatively small beam? As a live aboard family this is certainly not what we would choose. I think many people are being ill advised to call these family cruising boats.
Hey there, loved to see Everything... Especially the Outremer Catamaran Captain wearing the Dragonfly Trimaran T-shirt. Go Dragonfly! The music background (I assume most of it your own creation, Nick) was especially nice. Great dolphin movies.
Awesome 👍... please sir, can I have some more...😂😂😂
Great content 👍🏼
Thank you.
Happy 35th Nick 😛
35+++++ lol
😂
Are you kidding me?? Captain Crunch over there, hired by Outremer, relies on his "gut feeling" instead of modern day weather routing? The only thing your gut should be telling you is whether that burrito was a good idea.
Nailed it. 😂
Yep instinct, experience and good judgement like the many thousands of sailors that crossed oceans before routing software existing. Absolutely nothing wrong with sailors choosing not to use routing software. It’s a choice. Leave out the insults.
@alexfuller818 Not using all the tools afforded to you is foolish. There is such a thing as information overload, this isn't it. There are no valid reasons to just gut it out when you have a choice.
@@terryroth9707you can choose to pay close attention to forecasts, weather patterns, without using a routing software and that will be sufficient for they individual to make the decision they are comfortable with.
Jimmy Cornell cruising guides don’t reference routing softwares at all, but reference data such as historic ocean weather patterns.
It’s a choice and it’s certainly not wreckess to not use a routing software.
@@alexfuller818 Speaking of insulting, Nick is a meteorologist. How insulting do you think it was for him, that the Captain didn't listen to him? Not using all the available wisdom onboard was indeed foolish and had little to do with "gut" and a lot to do with ego.
Having an experienced sailor who is also a meteorologist aboard yet routing an Atlantic crossing by gut feel is a fine example of a red flag both on competencies and character. I am glad you made it across and we got a video instead of a news report about sailors in destress.
Choosing your course and departure date is easy with "old fashioned" pilot charts. However, once you get start your passage, you are THERE and you'd better be ready for whatever Mother Nature has in store. For example, almost everyone gets hammered after crossing 30 south on the way to NZ. (You might be getting a little heavy on the advertising, Nick.....)
23:00 I wonder how noisy trimaran amas would be in that weather.
it has been fun following on predictwind
re: MInute 21 --- "You don't need a weatherman to tell which way the wind blows." (But if you happen to have one handy, it helps with granular planning, no?)
eh, yeh
No brainer. Oy.
I realized watching your video what interests me in following sailing channels like yours. I like to watch them because they are educative and a great immersion into the sailing life, and I am not looking for entertainment. This was a great video, thank you.
I am confused however as to which boat this is, is this "your" boat ? Maybe I missed that from another episode, but I thought it was your boat.
Nope, not our boat. They offered us "use" of the boat.
@@TheOKellys Gotcha. But it's this one that you get to "use" for the foreseeable future ?
@@PeteLeuenberger My understanding is it depends on the definition of foreseeable. As I've understood it it would be perhaps ~6-9 months. Maybe even a little longer. But my memory isn't perfect and I could be off by a couple of months. When's the Annapolis boat show? My guess is that Moonshoot will make an appearance...
@@TheOKellys I hope the value goes both ways… you guys bring a lot of value to the brand.
As ever totally Brilliant
Great video. Thanks for sharing
Great video of the crossing. I was amazed that the delivery captain uses intuitive passage planning as opposed to real time data from PredictWind used by a Blue Water cruiser and meteorologist. You are a patient man. The boat is awesome!
If his intuition is simply to "arrive" than I suppose it works well lol but he might want to listen to the youngin' next time. That chart makes it pretty clear you'd have had a easier time heading south, with no remarkable loss in time. C'est la vie!
Welcome to yacht deliveries.
Indeed
I would love to try that but paid position
@@TheOKellys We hope the expectation isn’t to shuffle you guys from boat show to boat show…
Excellent job on capturing the size of the waves and overall sea state. When I am in bigger waves, I hold my phone up to capture them, and I look at the waves, then look at the phone, but the waves are not in the phone!. How does it do that?
It looks like Zatara's recent crossing of the Atlantic from S. Africa went a lot smoother that your more northerly crossing.
Sorry for the French did not listen to your advise! However a great episode from one of my favorites. Hope Megan is doing well!
Oh and even a shower scene…wasn’t expecting that🫣
Just happened to be in Barcelona earlier in the year (2023)
Beautoful
A good sailor does not get them into situations where they have to poove they are a good sailor.
"35". Whenever I witness how spacious & comfortable these things are in large swell, does my head in how that other couple ditched theirs for a trimaran, rather than wait for their little ones to be teenagers.
New Outremer's are so pretty. best looking cats period.
Thankyou 😊
A forecast is but a forecast the rest is fingers crossed at the end of the day captains call ima
Thankyou 👍
Can you make a video for us newbies on how we should go about plotting a course while including the weather? It would be huge to understand what routes to take and why. You mentioned in this video that the other route wouldn't had been so rough can you please explain this as well.
A single video wouldn’t do the subject justice. Depends on many many factors. But, good idea…lemme think on that.
That Diesel ain't coming out of your pocket!
hmmm doesn't the 500 Nm difference in routes mean....the shortest distance already has 3-5 day advantage ?
Great episode ‼️ Nick m with your current few conversations,especially in this episode, I'm getting a hint that the goal you started with of a real performance cat, may be shifting.....just a bit. The word comfortable is coming up a ton. And that's OK. See you next time. ✨ 🌊 💨 ⛵️ 🏝️ 👙 🌞 ✨
Really interesting.
Love the "Nickname" Captain Crunch 😅 I think that'll stick.
Nick, fantastic videos on this series. You always do a great job, but these really tell the story. In the end, will you reach Miami within the expected timeframe? The tracker has you sitting in the BVI for like the last 48 hours. Maybe it is not updating? With the weather coming between that position and Miami, is his plan to just endure or hold up some place?
The tracker is deactivated.
Nick….
You have a self portrait in an attic somewhere that’s aging….😂
I'm thinking you and Meghan will be having more "snuggle together" times on Moonshot! (Clarity 2) 😁
Always look forward to seeing how you've progressed in your journey. i peeked and checked out the link you sent us on last weeks video and saw you made it to Frenchmans Cay. Looking forward to seeing how this journey went. Hope Megan is feeling better, she brings a lot to the videos and I've been missing her content.
Thank you❤️
My understanding with aviation forecasts, which all major airports produce (lookup the TAF for any airport). They have a number of forecasters working independently, the individual forecasts are then compared, the outliers discarded and the majority opinion published.
That's not how aviation forecasts work. I'd explain but get important details wrong, so I'll let a NOAA or FAA person respond if they are on here.
That's interesting, I was told that was the process on a UK instructors course but I don't know the original source or whether the US has a different process@@TheOKellys
it's a lot more fun with Megan on board. I love your jokes together.
She was missed. We are reunited today.
Nice episode guys, thanks. Funny to see you sailing out of Las Palmas past that big Sail For Jesus ketch. She was there when we left aboard Komotion a couple of months ago. Quick question: I noticed you had a few rolls in the jib when things were a bit fruity rather than switching to the staysail. Personally I hate sailing with my jib furled since the shape is pretty crap, especially when you're trying to go upwind. Any reason you didn't opt for the staysail instead? Wishing M a speedy recovery.
Good question. When sailing deeper and the boat already has too much weather helm and is rounding up when a quartering sea hits (like it was for us in that situation), it’s better (in my opinion) to have more pressure further forward. Using the staysail there would create even more imbalance unless going to third reef in the main…and that would have underpowered the boat for those winds. Most of my staysail experience was on our cutter, Low Pressure. For upwind work in strong winds, it was invaluable. Off the wind a reefed but billowing Genoa was better, even if a bit ugly.
Ah yes, absolutely. I didn't realise you were cracked off. Makes sense, we do the same. Enjoy the ride!
It's odd that over the past few months, on so many of the sailing channels, boats doing crossings of the Atlantic and Pacific lost a sail. I don't recall this happening nearly as mcu in '22.
26:58, nick is young, 😂😂😂 . At least, 50 years old young.
Yeh, turned 50!