On the Journey, Episode 146: Leaving the Ministry - Kenny's Story, Part VI
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- Опубліковано 7 тра 2024
- Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith.
Kenny shares the series of experiences and the process of discernment that led him to step away from ministry as a pastor in the Foursquare Church.
He discusses three watershed moments that led him to believe that whatever God had in store for him, it was somewhere besides a Pentecostal pulpit.
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I was in “no man’s land” for many years, but next Saturday I’m being received into the Catholic Church. Raise be to the Lord Jesus Christ 🙏
God bless and welcome home. 🙏🏠🤗
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Thank you, Brother Kenny for being so brave in following your conviction of the faith. God bless you, and may your service bear fruit abundantly 🙏🏻
It's very impressive that you felt the call to leave without exactly knowing what was happening next and followed it. These podcasts are always enjoyable.
I’ve listened to many Catholic conversion stories and this one is the longest and the most engaging. Great job guys!
Still one more episode to go. Hahah!! 😂
@@KennyBurchard I know! After plowing through the first 6 in 2 days, I discovered I had to wait a bit for the last one :-D
“I just know Jesus and the Church are one”
St Joan of Arc
Acts 9:4-5. Saul was persecuting the Church, and the Lord spoke to him -- "Saul, Saul, why so you persecute Me?" "Who are You, Lord?" Saul asked.
"I am Jesus, Whom you are persecuting."
@@susand3668 Paul was persecuting the church. Jesus is one with the church.
Protestants discount the church entirely.
Dear@@PInk77W1, agreed!
I Thank the Lord for bestowing his grace on all three of you. Giving you the wisdom and fortitude to make the decisions you made to bring you home to the True Church started by Christ Jesus himself.
One of the best episodes ever!
So enjoyable. You guys are great.
I was Protestant almost all my life, until a Mormon said to me one day, that the priesthood was lost in the dark ages and God restored it through Joseph Smith in the early 1800s.
After the Mormon missionaries left, I got to thinking, and said to myself,
"If the priesthood was lost, then where was it?, and if its not lost, then where is it?"
I then thought,
"I think the Catholics say they have it"
So I said to my elderly father,
"Dad, let's go down to the Catholic church this coming Sunday, I just want to see"
So we did... the moment I walked into the church I could feel something Holy about it, but I didn't know what it was.
By the time the Mass was over, I wanted to become Catholic!
I couldn't deny the Holiness of it that I was feeling and had never felt in any otherchurch before!
I then said to my dad,
"Dad, I want to become Catholic"
He said,
"So do I"
So we left and met the priest as we were leaving at the door saying our goodbyes.
I said,
"Father, I want to become Catholic, and my dad use to be Catholic and wants to return, what do we need to do?"
He was so happy!
He said,
"Your father was raised Catholic so he still is Catholic, he needs to go to confession"
"And you need to enter RCIA"
RCIA had only begun for a few weeks, so I entered and was confirmed into the church that next Easter Vigil the following spring. That was in 2010, and it's the best thing I have ever done outside of excepting Jesus into my life in 1984 of course.
That night after I was confirmed into the church, I said my evening prayers and then went to bed.
Suddenly I heard in my spirit the words,
"Now I belong to you, and you belong to Me"
I thought I already belonged to Him, but then I knew I hadn't for all these years of church hopping from one denomination to another, they always falling short for one reason or another. I was looking to men, a pastor with a good sermon to fill me, not knowing it was only Jesus that could fill me through the Eucharist.
When I told that to my priest at my new Parish he said,
"You heard that?"
I said "Yes"
He said,
"Never forget that"
I never have and I never will forget it.
When God told me that, I loved that He said that He belonged to me before He said I belonged to Him!
So loving, so unselfish, so giving!
I love Him so much!
So yes, ordination has to come from the proper authority indeed, the priesthood, the Apostolic priesthood through succession all the way from Jesus given to the Apostles down to now through the priesthood.
May God always bless you and keep you, Amen 🙏
Wow! I love this!
Brought tears to my eyes. Thanks for sharing. I also feel Jesus in my life now more so than when I was a Protestant . Of course my life isn’t perfect and there are hard times as well, but the joy that I have even at the darkest times comes from that certainty that God will always be with me even when everything and everyone else whom I love on earth are gone..
@@thisisforgod868 ❤️
This has been awesome, Kenny. You have done a remarkable job laying this out for the audience!
Taking it to the brink Kenny…good and faithful
I've really been enjoying your story. I look forward to each week 😊
Just love watching u three. Such a beautiful blessing for the church of Christ.. thank you for another beautiful thoughtful episode 🙏
Wow, two of my favorite scholar-laypeople on youtube! Double-header! Thanks for getting these two together!
This episode is great.
Hey guys, don't forget that the Holy Spirit has a lot to do in using you.
It took me years to realise that, for most of my Christian journey, I had this totally unarticulated assumption in my mind that S. Paul taught his congregations with a printed, floppy backed Bible in his hand containing the Hebrew canon and 27 books in the NT.
I should have added that, of course, the Bible in question was in English.
Apparently Bert Lahr as the Lion was gently spoofing the singing style of Enrico Caruso, then widely known because almost everyone with a record player in the 1930s had at least a couple of old Caruso records…
Who told you way back that Catholicism wasn't an option, Walter Martin, or God?
Also, cant wait to hear the rest of your journey next week!
All the men I trusted. I interpreted that in a way as God also telling me.
@@KennyBurchard 😒
God's timing is perfect though...
But when I entered the church I was 57.
Wish I had come to the fullness much earlier in life. I don't understand why not, but it's not important for me to understand, but what is important is for me to trust His will and timing.
God bless! ✝️
And wouldn't it be the same for marriage. Who gives any of these pastors the sacramental authority to marry a couple as husband and wife? You might as well just go down to a courthouse and get a judge to perform the ceremony because its exactly the same. .. Basically, millions of Canadian and American couples are just living together, because no Sacramental Marriage ever took place --- in my opinion.
I agree. I have a brother in law and sister in law who were both raised Catholic and get married by a licensed pastor because they wanted a fancy outdoor wedding. Their marriage is not valid in the eyes of the church.
Many Protestants want to do all they can (most not having a sacramental theology) to still honor God in their weddings and marriages. This does not give their pastors "sacramental authority" to bless them in the same way as a Catholic priest. I believe God sees a difference between two people who say, "I want to ask my pastor to marry us, and say Christian vows, and do so in a Church or with a strong biblical emphasis," and those who simply go to the justice of the peace or a judge. The Father knows our intentions, even if our faith is not formed in a Catholic way. Many Christians simply have no ecclesial, historical, or theological connection to sacramental marriage because, through no fault of their own, they are born into these communities which do not have it. Nevertheless, there is a difference in motive, heart, intent, and devotion between those who see it merely as a civil matter, and those who take as seriously as their faith enables them -- to see it as God himself joining them together.
There are two sacraments that you don't need a priest for - baptism and marriage. The sacrament exists without the direct administration of the Church. That's why past marriages require an annulment.
@@atrifle8364so would a marriage in Vegas or at a courthouse still be a Sacrament?
What does four square Church means?
The Foursquare Church was started in 1923 through the evangelistic ministry of Aimee Semple McPherson. She had a message based on the four-faced creature in Ezekiel chapter 1 in which she connected the four faces to four aspects of Jesus' ministry - SALVATION, HEALING, SPIRIT-FILLING, SECOND COMING - and in one of her sermons she said, "This is the fullness of the Gospel. Why... It's the FOURSQUARE Gospel." Foursquare is an engineering term (used in Revelation 21:16 in the KJV) to connote that something is a perfect 3-D cube. Out of this often-preached message, she commissioned other evangelists to "go and preach the foursquare Gospel" (meaning all four facets of her understanding of Jesus' ministry). When Churches began popping up out of these endeavors, they were called "Foursquare Gospel Churches."
Thank you Kenny.