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  • @erickingsepp
    @erickingsepp Рік тому +65

    The sadness in this piece doesn't come from thoughts about the plague, which was in the 1300s; rather, it's a song of penitence. "Miserere mei" means "have mercy on me": The song is the Latin of Psalm 51, a song of sorrow over one's sins, of asking for God's forgiveness, and of confidence that He will grant it to a anyone with a sincere heart.

    • @Worrell057
      @Worrell057 4 місяці тому +6

      Thank you for the explanation. A study of such a beautiful piece of acappella music is incomplete without understanding that the lyrics are supported by the musical arrangement. Without doing so, there is no context for the lovely music. This lyrical song is a prayer of supplication, not just an amazing vocal performance.

    • @starrynyte158
      @starrynyte158 7 днів тому

      Medieval historian here. The Great Plague did happen in the 17th century. You are thinking of the Black Plague. The Plague was a cyclical reoccurrence for much of Medieval and Early Modern history.

  • @sallybennett7869
    @sallybennett7869 2 роки тому +200

    This one has always reduced me to tears, the beauty is beyond this world, quite overwhelming.

    • @luukherbig9328
      @luukherbig9328 2 роки тому +11

      They sing the psalm 51, when you read this psalm while their singing, it brings an extra dimension.

    • @MrJdsenior
      @MrJdsenior Рік тому +1

      If you want the ultimate contemporary song that does that for me, and probably will for you if you have a daughter, listen to, if you haven't heard it, Billy Joel's Lullaby (Goodnight my Angel). I almost NEVER get through that song without my eyes at least heavily wetting, and as absurd as it may sound, even writing this is promoting a bit of that. It is also a BEAUTIFUL bit of writing, both musically and in the text. You have been warned. :-)

    • @MikeLyons2011
      @MikeLyons2011 Рік тому

      Beauty beyond words.

    • @TheAutumnWind_RN4L
      @TheAutumnWind_RN4L Рік тому +1

      Is this the most beautiful song ever written?

    • @arupian666
      @arupian666 Рік тому +2

      100% me too... not a dry eye in the house

  • @oxigenarian9763
    @oxigenarian9763 2 роки тому +212

    I can only imagine the joy that the composer felt writing this piece and the power to provoke such deep, ethereal emotion...

    • @warfare1917ableable
      @warfare1917ableable 2 роки тому +31

      God.

    • @MONTE_EVEREST
      @MONTE_EVEREST Рік тому +23

      bro. it's literally psalm 51 of the holy bible. God inspired this work

    • @oxigenarian9763
      @oxigenarian9763 Рік тому +6

      @@MONTE_EVEREST You know, people don't believe God does things like inspiring a great work of music but He does...

    • @MONTE_EVEREST
      @MONTE_EVEREST Рік тому +6

      @@oxigenarian9763 if don't believe that's not my problem. God inspired this psalm, those who don't like it can have therapy that might solve it.

    • @steveamato4857
      @steveamato4857 Рік тому +3

      There is a video telling the history of this piece, it is wonderful.

  • @GabyHannaheavenseeker
    @GabyHannaheavenseeker 2 роки тому +83

    what a proper way to ask for mercy, always touches the soul.
    The Lord bless you from Lebanon the Land of saints.

  • @charki40
    @charki40 2 роки тому +48

    My soul loves this music. I am cleansed somehow just by listening to it. I was raised in the Catholic Church where I grew up in the Convents as a Ward of the State. This music reminds of the most private moments of reflection, where I found a joy within myself, during those many lonely years without my family. I felt absolute freedom and love. Even today at 55yrs, it soothes me. Like there is something bigger than ourselves and our circumstances. Something thats just Beautiful.

    • @CartmanMorisato
      @CartmanMorisato Рік тому +4

      God bless you.✝️🙌🏼

    • @ASMRyouVEGANyet
      @ASMRyouVEGANyet 11 місяців тому +1

      Yes. I listened to this the day that Christ personally spoke to me and it made me weep.

  • @juliebowdren2771
    @juliebowdren2771 2 роки тому +52

    I’ve been lucky enough to sing the soprano solo in this fifteen times over the past ten years. It’s the highlight of my year. Thanks for bringing attention to this. I truly hope this reaches people who wouldn’t have otherwise heard it.

  • @leoschledorn7528
    @leoschledorn7528 2 роки тому +135

    When I saw the notification for this video, I was really excited, I've been obsessing over this song for years. Btw, I love your thoughts and opinions on music :)

    • @BethRoars
      @BethRoars  2 роки тому +7

      Thank you so much!!

    • @KendrickJ2
      @KendrickJ2 2 роки тому +6

      Should also look into "O Magnum Mysterium" by Lauridsen.. it's tough to decide which is best. Two songs with this name.. make sure it's Lauridsen's

  • @helenfarrington5084
    @helenfarrington5084 2 роки тому +32

    We all have the same Human Reaction because our Soul memory reminds us of the Angelic Heavenly Choirs that we all heard sung to the Great Glory to God when we were there and what we shall hear again when we go back.

  • @kennethrouse7942
    @kennethrouse7942 2 роки тому +26

    This piece, interpreted by the Tenebrae Choir, never fails to bring tears to my eyes and goose flesh to my arms. Absolutely sublime.

  • @GAIS414
    @GAIS414 2 роки тому +54

    It's an extraordinary piece of music, proven by its popularity almost 500 years after it's creation!
    No matter if you are a practicing christian or otherwise. It invokes a feeling of being part of something greater than oneself.
    I can vision this song echo into the universe as a requiem for humanity.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 5 місяців тому

      The words are from Psalm 51, and thus not originally Christian at all, though what is sung is I presume the Latin translation by St Jerome.

    • @GAIS414
      @GAIS414 5 місяців тому

      @@faithlesshound5621 For a guy who named himself faithlesshound you seem to have quite extensive knowledge about early religious music. So of what religion was the composer Gregorio Allegri in your opinion? Please enlighten me.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 5 місяців тому

      @@GAIS414 Allegri wrote the music, but the choice of words was not his.

    • @GAIS414
      @GAIS414 5 місяців тому

      @@faithlesshound5621 I was referring to the music and the arrangement in the first place. As I don't speak Latin. I read up on it and there are references in the text from Ancient Egyptian, Ancient Greek, and the Talmud. However in this version and setting, for all intents and purposes, it's definitely Christian.

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 5 місяців тому

      @@GAIS414 I did not know that the Psalms of St Jerome's Old Testament had been Christianised and were not the same as those of the Jewish Bible. The Protestant reformers took great pains to ensure that their translations had NOT been changed from the original. There's a lot of overlap between Jewish and Christian beliefs. We don't know how much the people who wrote the Jewish texts in the first millennium BC took from Egypt, Greece and Babylon, or their Canaanite forebears: that was the world they lived in.
      Maybe the music itself is Christian? If you mean it's in the style of church music, I would agree. 1500 years of development must have taken church music far from that made in other settings.

  • @HomeStar369
    @HomeStar369 2 роки тому +38

    It gives me a feeling of solemnity with in a sacred space or act like when taking the Eucharist, it leaves me in a state of peace .

  • @rigavitch
    @rigavitch 2 роки тому +86

    I can NEVER not cry when I hear this. The beauty?!!!
    Lyrics for those who are interested.
    Have mercy on me, God
    According to your great kindness
    And according to the multitude of your mercies,
    Erase my iniquities
    Wash me completely from my iniquities
    And cleanse me of my sins
    For I know my iniquities
    And my sins are always before me
    To you alone, I have sinned
    And done evil before you
    That you may be fair in your speech
    And justified in your judgement
    Behold, I was conceived in iniquity
    And in sin did my mother conceived me
    Behold, you desire truth in the inward parts
    And you teach me wisdom in the hidden places
    Purify me with hyssop and I will be clean
    Wash me, and I will be whiter than snow
    Let me hear your joy and gladness
    And my humble bones will rejoice
    Turn your face away from my sins
    And erase all of my iniquities
    Create in me a pure heart, oh, God,
    And renew your right spirit within me
    Do not turn me away from your sight,
    And do not take your Holy Spirit from me
    Return your gladness and salvation to me
    And uphold me with a willing spirit
    I will teach sinners your way
    And they will be converted unto you
    Save me from blood,
    God, God of my salvation
    My tongue will praise of your righteousness
    Lord, open my lips
    And my mouth will sing your glory
    Because you have not desired sacrifices
    For you don't delight in sacrifices, or I would do so
    Nor do you desire burnt offerings
    The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit
    A broken and humble heart40
    God will not despise
    Do well before the Lord in your good pleasure to Zion
    And build the walls of Jerusalem
    Then you accept the sacrifices of righteousness
    In oblations and burnt offerings
    Then they will offer bulls on your altar.

    • @KendrickJ2
      @KendrickJ2 2 роки тому +2

      Check out O Magnum Mysterium by Lauridsen.. difficult to decide which is best.

    • @tsurie6634
      @tsurie6634 2 роки тому

      Here is the crazy part, god does not exist.

    • @MelanCholy2001
      @MelanCholy2001 2 роки тому +12

      Yep. Psalm 51 (Psalm 50 Vulgate) The Miserere. _The repentance and confession of David after his sin._ Referenced in 2 Samuel 12. 3000 years old. The 4th Penetential Psalm.

    • @michealsamaan9153
      @michealsamaan9153 2 роки тому +5

      Isn't this Psalm 51?

    • @ElijahDawkins-yb1uc
      @ElijahDawkins-yb1uc 11 місяців тому

      Wait: that's just Psalm 51! I didn't know that!

  • @cactuscornette
    @cactuscornette 2 роки тому +81

    The story of how this wonderfull piece of music got outside of the Vatican is as follows: a teen from Salzburg traveled to Rome with his father and heard Miserere preformed twice in the Sistine Chapel and wrote it down from memory, and when the pope heard about it he was so impressed he gave the teen a order of chivalry, the teens name was Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
    PS: Beth reacting to one of my all time favorite songs is the best belated birthday present :D

    • @hasseo1
      @hasseo1 2 роки тому +16

      Which is certainly not what happened, but it is a fun story. Copies of the piece were on sale by the time Mozart would have heard it. It had also been performed in London twice, by then.

    • @Scheiseposter
      @Scheiseposter 2 роки тому +6

      @@hasseo1 Also, this version has mistake in it, which was introduced in 20th century and give signature feature at 3:14

    • @steakat
      @steakat 2 роки тому +3

      @@hasseo1 don't be so arrogant in your ignorance. Confident stupidity makes you look bad.
      "According to the popular story (backed by family letters), at fourteen years of age Mozart was visiting Rome when he first heard the piece during the Wednesday service. Later that day, he wrote it down entirely from memory, returning to the Chapel that Friday to make minor corrections. "

    • @joseagreda9753
      @joseagreda9753 2 роки тому +9

      Sadly, it is just urban legend...

    • @majadebij
      @majadebij 2 роки тому +1

      @@hasseo1 precisely that.. check the interview here: ua-cam.com/video/h6hD8YtO5HI/v-deo.html (at 2:40 minutes)

  • @lullhabit6292
    @lullhabit6292 2 роки тому +28

    Can't believe i had to wait all this time to see a vocal coach pick up this masterpiece. Glad it's you !

  • @tonyhudspeth3861
    @tonyhudspeth3861 2 роки тому +24

    and... That high "C" part before during and after is done with one breath .... omg it has power it is cleanly executed and a dynamic range .. all in one breath.. i love this piece from beginning to end over and over again

  • @johnclibbens6803
    @johnclibbens6803 2 роки тому +25

    Beautiful. I’ve sung this with several very good chamber choirs, but Tenebrae are outstanding.

    • @Nikioko
      @Nikioko 2 роки тому +1

      Vocal ensemble, double quintet in this case. Every voice is sung by only one singer.

    • @antoniusblantranderozari5325
      @antoniusblantranderozari5325 3 місяці тому

      Agree. Tenebrae version is the best

  • @johnsteele5625
    @johnsteele5625 11 місяців тому +4

    This is my favorite piece of music, every bit of this performance is stunningly beautiful

  • @rinpocherags3169
    @rinpocherags3169 Рік тому +10

    So beautiful. “Have mercy on me oh God.” Just beautiful.

  • @rayjennings3637
    @rayjennings3637 2 роки тому +80

    Easily the most beautiful piece of music written for the human voice! Can you imagine what complete hash unneccesary Autotune would make of this because there's bound to be a producer or engineer out there who thinks it's necessary!

    • @Brooke-rw8rc
      @Brooke-rw8rc 2 роки тому +7

      Omg, if they "tuned" that last chord to equal temperament? 😬 If it's not tuned on the harmonic series, it's just not going to ring pure like that!

    • @Joemantler
      @Joemantler Рік тому +1

      Why would you even put the thought of something like that in my head! Don't give them any ideas!

  • @ChronicaErys
    @ChronicaErys Рік тому +8

    Every single part of this song gives me chills, no matter how many times I listen

  • @Sarahlaguiri
    @Sarahlaguiri 2 роки тому +19

    I think that this is one of the most perfect renderings that I've heard (I was watching it the other day, before I saw that you'd done a reaction video). From the first note I always seem to end up clutching my hands together on my breatsbone, almost as though I want to hold the music close to me. Back in the 1980s/90s, my late husband and I used to go on canal holidays with friends every year. I used to put a cassette on of this, and it would blast out as we went through the Harecastle Tunnel near Stoke-On-Trent. Being underground in a narrow, low, dark tunnel, with just the 60ft narrowboat's headlight, gives you time to think and reflect.
    Another favourite is 'Spem In Alium', sung by the Tallis Scholars.

    • @Joemantler
      @Joemantler Рік тому +1

      I am sorry to read about your husband.
      Eternal rest, grant to him, O Lord,
      and perpetual Light shine upon him.
      And may he rest in Peace.
      Amen

  • @slan77
    @slan77 2 роки тому +47

    Please do more exposure to beautiful choir music. This is so spiritual.

    • @luisloya1120
      @luisloya1120 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, yes, yes !!!!🙏🙏🙏

  • @alecbinyon2944
    @alecbinyon2944 2 роки тому +15

    It makes me feel total grief and love for the magnificence of life and God. It's a miraculous download from the heavens. It is absolutely perfect.

  • @jeremyalmquist27
    @jeremyalmquist27 9 місяців тому +1

    Don't care what your faith is, you can feel the spirit/higher power while listening to this.

  • @ThinWhiteAxe
    @ThinWhiteAxe 11 місяців тому +5

    I've been obsessed with this piece, specifically the Kings College Choir version, since I heard it in the soundtrack of the film _Maurice._

  • @rickjames2043
    @rickjames2043 2 роки тому +8

    Thank you that was beautiful. It brought tears to my eyes Beth. I also love Gregorian chants. Thank you again it touched my heart and soul, Rick!!!

  • @gregorloff5266
    @gregorloff5266 Рік тому +2

    I love this piece. The laser purity of Tenebrae's tone is truly remarkable. I've had the opportunity to hear them live and cannot recommend the experience enough. Nigel Short's musicality is at an epic level (as are each of the members of this group) and I've followed his work since the King Singers days, fantastic. If the opportunity presents itself to see them live, GO.!

  • @candletv6591
    @candletv6591 2 роки тому +8

    I'm not sad, I find myself at peace listening to this

  • @whiteeulogianraven7995
    @whiteeulogianraven7995 2 роки тому +9

    When music is part of your life, you just see it and feel it different, and when you understand the complexity and the requirements, let's not say Talent, behind every piece, you just feel grateful with yourself for liking good music.

  • @oxigenarian9763
    @oxigenarian9763 2 роки тому +2

    I can only imagine the joy that the composer felt writing this piece and the power to provoke such deep emotions...

  • @johannesaid244
    @johannesaid244 2 роки тому +5

    Totally agree with you, that kind of song you don't want to clap at the end, though it is so beautiful, you want your soul to savour the moment of delightness that it has brings to your heart.

  • @staciedziedzic8706
    @staciedziedzic8706 2 роки тому +3

    I love this video! Beautifully done by the choir and it makes me want to cry! Great job Beth!

  • @Poassaeng
    @Poassaeng 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you, Beth, for this reaction! One of my all-time-favourite pieces of music to listen to and to sing as well! It just stuns me every single time I hear it, an absolute masterpiece.
    Also a big fan of Tenebrae! It definitely is one of the leading ensembles/choirs in Europe. (Co-)Founded and conducted by Nigel Short, former countertenor of The King's Singers, now new musical home of Stephen Conolly, former bass of The King's Singers and other amazing vocalists.
    I would highly appreciate if you would react to more "Old Music" from time to time, it is a nice variety in the reaction community!

  • @CarinRuff
    @CarinRuff 2 роки тому +4

    So happy that you are looking at some late-Ren/Baroque polyphony, and particularly thrilled to see it performed in St. Bartholomew's. My last trip abroad before the pandemic included a visit to this gorgeous church. Please continue to do some early music now and then!

  • @jonathonshaw6688
    @jonathonshaw6688 2 роки тому +10

    What does it make me feel? Reverence.
    The stillness you mentioned feeling when the piece concludes reminds me of 'savasana' from yoga; after all the movement you lay on your back and the mind is able to much more easily enter a place of calm quiet stillness for having performed all the movement beforehand.

  • @anfeneeharry9482
    @anfeneeharry9482 Рік тому +1

    It brings me joy and to tears listening to this song and just makes me want to go on my knees and pray to our lord and ask for forgiveness for any wrong doing that I have done.

  • @martijnklaver23
    @martijnklaver23 8 місяців тому +1

    First time i heared this version it gave me a shock of goosebumps, now i want to hear how it sounds in a church because it will give the song the most credit in such a beautiful place.

  • @j.lahtinen7525
    @j.lahtinen7525 2 роки тому +13

    Loved this performance, and heard it multiple times for a long time! Gives me chills every time. When I first stumbled onto it, I was also really surprised, because I recognized the high soprano singer - she's Josephene Stephenson, and I'd first encountered her years before, on a youtube channel called "peyrson", where she did some really lovely covers with another lady Agathe Peyrat.
    Well worth looking up, that channel, even though it's not been active in years.
    Love that you love this performance too! 😊
    Oh, and Josephene's partner Agathe in that little channel doing covers went on to found a band called Inglenook and... do opera! Here's her doing Der Hölle rache (Königin der Nacht ) - Die Zauberflöte, Mozart: ua-cam.com/video/s8f3OtN7m3w/v-deo.html
    The two had some really lovery harmonies in their early videos together, but I was really pleasantly surprised how they went on to greater things. From the Peyrson channel, their cover of "No Surprises" is a good example of what they did.

    • @dougkelley2781
      @dougkelley2781 2 роки тому +2

      Thanks for this recommendation. That was astonishing.

  • @Maff_x44x
    @Maff_x44x Рік тому +1

    I listen to this often at night to help me sleep. It's so beautiful. The Clare college performance of this is amazing too.

  • @vperera2153
    @vperera2153 2 роки тому +2

    Don't know much about music... but do understand how a professional like you explain it, thank you !! This is one of my favourites ! I simply cry everytime I listen to this piece...Lord , I'm a sinner....toiling in a sinful world , in a valley of tears !!!

  • @bivekhunjan2888
    @bivekhunjan2888 7 місяців тому

    It’s been my fave for so long and always leaves me in tears

  • @brigoose7945
    @brigoose7945 2 місяці тому +1

    its just beautiful. Theres no other words

  • @konstantinosapostolatos3875
    @konstantinosapostolatos3875 3 місяці тому

    This music brings me to tears! It is the closest to a heavenly experience! And so perfectly performed

  • @ASFMitchelProductions
    @ASFMitchelProductions 3 місяці тому

    the first time I heard this was when my daughter was in the Indianapolis Children's Choir. They performed very well but nothing like this rendition of mature and experienced voices. So beautiful and moving

  • @vroomgrrly
    @vroomgrrly 2 роки тому +4

    So glad you examined this favorite of mine! Adding to the sadness of the era, this was written for Holy Week (Thursday) mass on the Cistine - the most somber part of the liturgixal year. I believe it's arranged for two chamber choruses plus the quartet with the soaaaring soprano, who all join together at the end. The high soprano certainly hit that highest note, but I thought you might comment on how she got there (throwing mouth wide open, tightening face & throat) and the impact on the resulting sound losing its round, controllef shape for a wide, flat sound (to my ear). I've compared to other recordings and the difference becomes apparent. Hate to pick at this, though, when the performance is so spot on gorgeous and deeply moving.

    • @christinebutler7630
      @christinebutler7630 2 роки тому +1

      Not for the Mass, actually, but for the night service which follows it, called Tenebrae. Yes, same as the name of the group. The Latin word means "shadows" with the sense of "gathering darkness", and that is what th Triduum is, until the light of Easter. Tenebrae is conducted in a darkened church, with seven candles lit. The service consists of readings and sung psalms like this, and at intervals in the service a candle is extinguished. At the end only one candle, the light of hope, is left. A loud sound is made by a clapper to signify the closing of the tomb. The congregation exits in silence.

  • @zacharyharwell351
    @zacharyharwell351 2 роки тому +6

    I'm no longer particularly religious, but this song and Tchaikovsky's Hymn of the Cherubim both instill an almost transcendent feeling whenever I listen to them. Love the analysis of this song

    • @pla5730
      @pla5730 2 роки тому +3

      I couldn't agree more

  • @FireDragonArmy2
    @FireDragonArmy2 Рік тому +7

    I imagine being a vocal coach hearing one of the most beloved skilled professional choirs in the world today must be near nirvana. Oh that young woman hitting that high note is so fantastic. So powerful yet so fragile at the same time. You feel that note in your soul, she hits it so good.

  • @JoeSiegfried
    @JoeSiegfried 8 місяців тому

    I was fortunate enough to perform this in the best choir i ever sung in several years ago, i still sing along with UA-cam at home. One of my all time favorite pieces!

  • @G02372
    @G02372 4 місяці тому +1

    What does it make you feel? In tears for the home we are all away from.

  • @starrynyte158
    @starrynyte158 7 днів тому

    This song has always made me feel immense peace. I'm not religious, but I am a Medieval Historian and being in Cathedrals, hearing the music echo, always has a profound effect on me.

  • @hummerman62
    @hummerman62 Місяць тому

    When that womans hits that gorgeous top note, my eyes just glaze over, its like i know the past glories or Sadness of life

  • @LunaBianca1805
    @LunaBianca1805 2 роки тому +2

    I didn't even got notified or didn't notice you'd do a reaction to this ^^'. This is such a beautiful classic piece, one of my absolute favourites. Neal Stephenson mentioned it in his book "Seveneves" and that is the only reason I got to discover it (despite actually liking a lot of choral and orchestral, classical and sacral stuff, I've never heard of that song prior to reading the book) I always liked the melancholic, almost wailing melody line, don't know why but this piece always calms me down and helps me vent negative feelings (which I'm usually quite horrible at, I tend to bottle up on them instead), also the sound quality in that cathedral, wow 🤩 Always liked that in the cathedrals and churches I went to and this one really got superb sound, too. Oh, and I don't know why, but this piece also somehow reminds me of some of the big battle scenes in the Peter Jackson LOTR trilogy when the sounds of the fight itself drop out and there's only the choral or soloist vocal pieces are to be heard - maybe a weird comparison, but those are what this piece makes me think of.

  • @MrJdsenior
    @MrJdsenior Рік тому

    This is an exquisitely beautiful piece, exquisitely performed. Every part is SO exposed throughout the entire piece, not just in the smaller antiphonal choir and solos (THAT HIGH C!, she sounds almost like a pure sin wave), but the main choir. NIgel Short was a former King Singer. If you've never done a reaction on any of their work, I would highly recommend one. Like these folks their a Capella mastery is almost beyond belief. You can listen to any aspect exclusively on any piece, timing, pitch, dynamics, entrances and cutoffs, arrangements, any and every aspect, and they are all performed to perfection. YOU can probably do all that coincidentally, but I'm not a professionally trained musician.
    Yes, the sequential movements throughout the piece are so beautifully arranged temporally and chordally, it gives me the feeling of a journey, or a reaching toward ultimate beauty. Surely you've heard it, but on the other extreme is Thomas Tallis eight choir 40 piece work, Speminalium (sp?). The King Singers did a composite recording of that, looped if you will, and their discussion of the process on a YT video I saw was fascinating. So was the theme as each one discussed it while the project was going on of, more or less, this should be glorious (or they hoped it would be), or not, one of the two, if you catch their drift.
    I remember one of our choir directors saying anybody sounds good in those cathedral environments. He was PARTIALLY kidding obviously, but it truly is the ultimate acoustic, ESPECIALLY for the music written specifically to be sung there, and any choir does sound very, very good performing there. When you sing like these guys and gals, for a piece like this, it is a REQUIREMENT, IMO.
    I heard a recent organ recital in a cathedral like this with an absolutely spectacular organ. You could also tell that piece (Bach, Toccata and Fugue in D minor) was written with a cathedral performance in mind. It changed the tempos tremendously, with the opening legato and sustains played VERY slowly to accentuate and work within that gloriously sustained reverberation, in some cases waiting for the reverberation to completely, or nearly completely die out before entering the next phrase. And he played the faster more intricate parts, some of them, quite quickly. The individual notes became somewhat less prominent compared to the mixing up that occurred in all of that delightful caressing and shaping by the space, but the secondary mixed sounds were something else. It is a different work heard there, and life giving. I hope that was not waxing too poetic, but what can I say, that is how it 'hit me', and I was just reading some Michael Chabon, who puts me to utter shame, but inspires nonetheless. That performance is on YT, but I cannot remember the specific organist and cathedral, sorry.
    One excellent analog to the breathing control I heard from an excellent soloist was to picture fishing. The breathing in is the cast, could be longer term or staccato quick for a very short cast, then reeling the business end of the kit back in, varying the speed and length as necessary, etc.
    How does that recording make me feel? Even though I am no longer religious, as such, isn't that obvious? It makes me feel worshipful, wrapped in beauty. If there is a heaven, and there are angels, and they do sing (not exclusively with a harp, I hope. :-/ ) this has to be at least tickling the underside of that sound, but here on Earth.
    Thanks for mixing it up a bit and doing something from antiquity, I would bet a fair number of your viewers have never listened to music like this, and this could inspire some of them to listen to a lot more of it. :-) Music like this has lasted for centuries for a reason! And it is even more special to sing some of it, even though, in most all cases, it doesn't sound remotely like this. Yeah, without all the frilliness I could have written that with about half the verbiage...such is life, in the morning.

  • @russelljohnson4527
    @russelljohnson4527 2 роки тому +6

    i would be very interested in a translation ( i can find one, I'm sure) but I agree 100% that it makes you feel SOMETHING. The language (Latin?) is not my native tongue, but the performance said what the lyrics surely intended.
    and 600% on the recording itself! the engineer did it exactly right and you couldn't even tell there was an engineer! Bravo to everyone involved in this production. And thanks to you, Professor Beth, for introducing me to another spectacular piece of musical art.

    • @justinbosl3972
      @justinbosl3972 2 роки тому +6

      This is Psalm 51/50 in Latin: Have mercy on me, Oh God…. You can find the translation on line or in any Bible.

    • @russelljohnson4527
      @russelljohnson4527 2 роки тому +1

      @@justinbosl3972 thanks, Justin. looking at it now!

    • @alecbinyon2944
      @alecbinyon2944 2 роки тому +2

      It's Psalm 51 in Latin. This piece was composed by a parish priest.

    • @Valentix4God33
      @Valentix4God33 2 роки тому +4

      @@russelljohnson4527 This is the latin subs for this version:
      "Miserere mei, Deus:
      secundum magnam misericordiam tuam.
      Et secundum multitudinem miserationum tuarum,
      dele iniquitatem meam.
      Amplius lava me ab iniquitate mea:
      et a peccato meo munda me.
      Quoniam iniquitatem meam ego cognosco:
      et peccatum meum contra me est semper.
      Tibi soli peccavi, et malum coram te feci:
      ut justificeris in sermonibus tuis,
      et vincas cum judicaris.
      Sacrificium Deo spiritus contribulatus:
      cor contritum, et humiliatum, Deus, non despicies.
      Benigne fac, Domine, in bona voluntate tua Sion:
      ut aedificentur muri Ierusalem.
      Tunc acceptabis sacrificium justitiae, oblationes, et holocausta:
      tunc imponent super altare tuum vitulos."
      "God have mercy on me:
      according to your great mercy
      And according to the greatness of your compassion
      blot out my iniquity.
      Wash me from my iniquity
      and cleanse me from my sin.
      For I acknowledge my iniquity:
      and my sin is always against me.
      To you only have I sinned, and I have done evil in your sight:
      to be justified in your words
      and you will be clear when you are judged.
      Sacrifice to God with a broken spirit
      a broken and humbled heart, O God, you will not despise it.
      Deal favorably, O Lord, in your good will in Zion
      that the walls of Jerusalem may be built.
      Then shalt thou accept the sacrifice of justice, oblations and whole burnt offerings.
      then they will lay calves on your altar."

    • @DNYLNY
      @DNYLNY 2 роки тому

      I don’t think Latin is anyones native tongue lol. It’s super beautiful.

  • @woooster17
    @woooster17 2 роки тому +2

    Stunning & beautiful.. the reverb gives you goosebumps. I don’t think it’ll make my gym playlist, but it’s awesome all the same 😊

    • @luisloya1120
      @luisloya1120 2 роки тому

      This is better suited in the background while praying the rosary. 🙏🙏🙏

  • @johnhmaloney
    @johnhmaloney 2 роки тому +3

    Great reaction and analysis, as always. It's a beautiful piece and this performance is just stunning, but without the context, I don't know that I would have realized that it was intended to be a sad piece. After watching this video, I listened to the original video, with my eyes closed, to see what emotional impression it gave me and, for the most part, it sounded like a very pretty piece of worship music. More than anything else, it gave me a very open feeling of awe and wonder. A lot of this may be due to the very major-leaning tonality. In the last minute or so, there was this intense, heart-wrenching sense of sadness, but then it resolved on a big, major chord that kind of took the wind out of that sad section and returned to the original feeling. Either way, it's an amazing piece of music. I hadn't heard of Allegri before, thank you for introducing me to his work. I'm definitely going to have to listen to more of it.

    • @christinebutler7630
      @christinebutler7630 2 роки тому +1

      It's a plea for God's mercy and forgiveness for sin.
      What should be noted is that it is customarily sung during the Tenebrae service (tenebrae is Latin for "shadows or gathering darkness) in Holy Week. It's an incredibly moving service of readings and music in which the seven candles, the only light in the church, are extinguished one by one. The service ends, the church is in darkness- the darkness of Christ's tomb. The congregation leaves in silence.

  • @stevemoppett2759
    @stevemoppett2759 2 роки тому +5

    Great video! I'd never thought about the effect of vibrato like that before. On a side note: I'd recommend 'Spem in alium' by Thomas Tallis. To listen to it is pure time travel :-)

  • @ulysse892
    @ulysse892 2 роки тому +2

    I have tears in my eyes when I hear Sharon, Anneke or Floor, no matter how many times I hear their songs, but here I cry

    • @Nikioko
      @Nikioko 2 роки тому +1

      This is much harder than what they do. In a vocal ensemble, every singer must be perfect in pitch and volume.

  • @ReezeGoingSenseless
    @ReezeGoingSenseless 2 роки тому +2

    "What does that make you feel?!" - Respect.Skill is evident.

  • @m.proximus1930
    @m.proximus1930 2 роки тому +3

    Specifically, this piece was written for Tenebrae during Holy Week. Research a little bit about the significance of Tenebrae (specifically before the 1960s when there was an upheaval in catholic liturgy that led to the loss of many things AND the significance of many things that were allowed to remain). Anyway, when people know what Tenebrae is and was... everything that you said so well about this piece takes on an even deeper significance. Thanks for putting this video up.

  • @bigredmatt1011
    @bigredmatt1011 2 роки тому +7

    The room is as much a part of this as the vocalists are.

  • @RodrigoRiveraConcha
    @RodrigoRiveraConcha 2 роки тому +2

    For the time of the composition, circa 1630, this kind of polyphonic choir (renacentist) was considered antique, and the ornamentations was not annotated. This thing add a veil of mystery to this song. Improvised ornamentations and cadenzas were common during Renaissance and Baroque periods, like a guitar solo in a rock concert

  • @behramistanbullu8766
    @behramistanbullu8766 2 роки тому +1

    it makes me cry, thank you

  • @BlueHayterade
    @BlueHayterade 2 роки тому +2

    Listened to this being performed by the cathedral boys choir at the cathedral in Durham, UK. Exquisite. The reverb in those buildings is unreal. Seems like the notes would hold for a good five seconds after cut off.

  • @PackaGame
    @PackaGame 2 роки тому +2

    Truly beautiful.
    Doesn't even need any religious context.
    To every human being this music would be soothing.
    There seems to be specific tones and rhythms that are genetically built into us to cause a metaphysical reaction.
    And they took advantage of this perfectly more than 450 years ago. Astounding.

  • @ex59neo53
    @ex59neo53 2 роки тому +3

    That's what I call pure teamwork :)

  • @católico_anacoreta
    @católico_anacoreta 2 роки тому +5

    Salmo 51
    1 Tem amisericórdia de mim, ó Deus, segundo a tua benignidade; apaga as minhas transgressões, segundo a multidão das tuas misericórdias. 2 Lava-me completamente da minha iniquidade, e purifica-me do meu pecado.

  • @Joemantler
    @Joemantler Рік тому

    I pray a piece of this every time I enter or leave a Church. Crossing myself with Holy Water, kneeling to the Tabernacle, I ask "Create in my a clean heart, O Lord".

  • @oreopickles3472
    @oreopickles3472 Рік тому +2

    The beauty of Catholic music. All glory be to the King of Kings

  • @gregherringer7700
    @gregherringer7700 2 роки тому +4

    Our modern lives are awash in music of all kinds. You asked what I feel when hearing this piece. I feel just the slightest bit of envy for the experience the original listeners had - nothing in their daily experience would come close. Surely some would have considered this music supernatural. On a technical note, would some parts have been sung by castrati back in the day? Talk about...um...supernatural.

    • @inserttapehere276
      @inserttapehere276 2 роки тому

      Considering that women were barred from joining church choirs, absolutely

  • @luigibacchetti6539
    @luigibacchetti6539 2 роки тому +4

    Have mercy upon me, O God: after Thy great goodness.
    According to the multitude of Thy mercies, do away mine offences.
    Wash me thoroughly from my wickedness: and cleanse me from my sin.
    For I acknowledge my faults: and my sin is ever before me.
    Against Thee only have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that Thou mightest be justified in Thy saying, and clear when Thou art judged.
    Behold, I was shapen in wickedness: and in sin hath my mother conceived me.
    But lo, Thou requirest truth in the inward parts: and shalt make me to understand wisdom secretly.
    Thou shalt purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: Thou shalt wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.
    Thou shalt make me hear of joy and gladness: that the bones which Thou hast broken may rejoice.
    Turn Thy face from my sins: and put out all my misdeeds.
    Make me a clean heart, O God: and renew a right spirit within me.
    Cast me not away from Thy presence: and take not Thy Holy Spirit from me.
    O give me the comfort of Thy help again: and stablish me with Thy free Spirit.
    Then shall I teach Thy ways unto the wicked: and sinners shall be converted unto Thee.
    Deliver me from blood-guiltiness, O God, Thou that art the God of my health: and my tongue shall sing of Thy righteousness.
    Thou shalt open my lips, O Lord: and my mouth shall shew [show] Thy praise.
    For Thou desirest no sacrifice, else would I give it Thee: but Thou delightest not in burnt-offerings.
    The sacrifice of God is a troubled spirit: a broken and contrite heart, O God, shalt Thou not despise.
    O be favourable and gracious unto Sion: build Thou the walls of Jerusalem.
    Then shalt Thou be pleased with the sacrifice of righteousness, with the burnt-offerings and oblations: then shall they offer young bullocks upon Thine altar.

  • @ralfschubert6373
    @ralfschubert6373 2 роки тому +2

    this is the music i am waitng for. Thx for reaction. I heard this chorus two years ago,an i love it. Can you react to more ancient music? i would love it.

  • @mysteryneophyte
    @mysteryneophyte 2 роки тому

    So beautiful, with emotional Power to it. I love this song.

  • @OriginalVenomZA
    @OriginalVenomZA 2 роки тому

    Roars!!! I love it. Hey Beth, and community. I've watched a couple of reactions before. As a choir singer myself, this just brought so many memories back. I love this song, Loved this vid.

  • @PixelHarvester
    @PixelHarvester 11 місяців тому +1

    This is a great version but I have to say the Kings College clip from about 8 years ago is stunning. The melodic parts that intertwine are incredible, worth finding

  • @TINSTAAFL1
    @TINSTAAFL1 2 роки тому +1

    The original Miserere written by Allegri in the 17th was actually without the high C and other ornaments which was added in the 19th century version.

  • @PittDaddy
    @PittDaddy 2 роки тому +6

    Chant and Madrigal singing is always wonderful.
    There was a band back in the 60s called Steeleye Span. They were one of my favorite bands at the time.
    They took songs from the 1400s to 1700s and added a rock sound to them. The songs were not always religious songs, although they did some of those as well. So often we think of music from that period as religious only, but people also sang in pubs and fields as well.
    The harmonies were amazing. They continue to perform today.
    I would suggest the song All Around my Hat as a great place to start with them. ua-cam.com/video/3zzwbYyvWiU/v-deo.html

    • @christinebutler7630
      @christinebutler7630 2 роки тому +1

      They were incredible. And Maddy Prior also did a couple of albums with June Tabor as "Silly Sisters". They were stunning musicians.

  • @TurnFullCircle
    @TurnFullCircle 2 роки тому

    So moving and it grips the heart….wonderful….thank you…..

  • @hawksipracing4357
    @hawksipracing4357 2 роки тому

    It is amazing, the soprano on the left seems to be incomparably blessed. Nice to hear your comments.

  • @BethRoars
    @BethRoars  2 роки тому +37

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    • @evilvolts
      @evilvolts 2 роки тому

      I subbed to your Roar channel by the way Have you reacted yet to any of the Epica Omega Alive stuff? Kingdom of Heaven Part 3 ua-cam.com/video/BdBCVMD8TiM/v-deo.html is a 13 minute masterpiece that goes through many different transitions and the singers use different styles throughout the song even the Keyboardist gets "Epic" on this song. ]:P

    • @ayumifujiwara1423
      @ayumifujiwara1423 2 роки тому

      React tô daíquing tana Mongólian Singer

    • @anthonyryan487
      @anthonyryan487 2 роки тому

      I seen your Chris Stapleton Reactions.
      I was wondering if you could react to Anymore by Travis Tritt...
      It's the 1st part of a Trilogy Video Set.
      Not to mention, Mr. Tritt has a unique and amazing voice

    • @vinniekay0967
      @vinniekay0967 2 роки тому

      Hi Beth! I was wondering and kinda asking you to do a video on "The Search Is Over" by SURVIVOR sung by the late Jimi Jamison..

    • @goddesssalem4842
      @goddesssalem4842 Рік тому +1

      It makes me feel how vulnerable we are as human beings

  • @kevinh2345
    @kevinh2345 7 місяців тому

    This song evokes sorrowful hope. Of acknowledging my own iniquity and shortcoming, crying out to be forgiven and washed clean with the knowledge that it is done. That forgiveness is offered and the slate is wiped clean. There was a cost to that, but it was required to be paid. In the dark stillness and waiting, light will return to the world.

  • @jericoba
    @jericoba Рік тому

    One of my favorites. So good!

  • @rogerknox9147
    @rogerknox9147 Рік тому +1

    I wish I had the ability support longer tones, like the highly-trained younger singers in my church choir do. Neverthless the combined effect of singing in a choir is like none other and it's worth making the effort to do your best. When you listen to this work and these singers it touches your soul. In our era we have had our own troubles that music addresses like nothing else.

  • @music0326
    @music0326 2 роки тому +10

    Perhaps these high notes raised out of the choir symbolizes the extasis of knowing that God can and will forgive a contrite heart, in this case David's.

  • @CJ17776
    @CJ17776 8 місяців тому +6

    This is a Catholic prayer. Catholics prayers are sung at a High mass. Go find the words. They still sing like this at the Latin Mass! Christ is King!

  • @bensons999
    @bensons999 2 роки тому +14

    For me the Miserere when done/recorded well is the closest music has come to perfection and the nearest thing to the secret chord.

    • @CIA.2024-u9b
      @CIA.2024-u9b 2 роки тому

      What is the secret chord?

    • @mkultravictim3917
      @mkultravictim3917 2 роки тому +1

      @@CIA.2024-u9b it’s a secret… 😅

    • @CIA.2024-u9b
      @CIA.2024-u9b 2 роки тому

      @@mkultravictim3917 Makes sense.

    • @brandoncantillo703
      @brandoncantillo703 Рік тому

      The secret chord is the one King David played that "pleased the Lord"... it's a reference in Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah" song to a Bible passage in 1 Samuel that says David played a song that was pleasing to God, which would calm evil spirits that were tormenting King Saul..

  • @miladbozorgnia3571
    @miladbozorgnia3571 Рік тому +1

    Really enjoyed your insight and analysis. Makes me appreciate it so much more especially knowing why vibrato isn’t used in this arena. There’s one version of this song where the soprano does use vibrato and I must say…it was beautiful yet distracting. It felt like it didn’t belong! Thanks again Beth. 🙏🏼

  • @danmartin5495
    @danmartin5495 4 місяці тому +2

    One should go to your traditional Latin Roman Catholic Mass near you , this is the music that is song! It is passing on what it has received. It patrimony.

  • @flickerr.6775
    @flickerr.6775 2 роки тому

    Its amazing how you managed to give so much insight on whats happening here even tho its really out of the ordinary in today's music

  • @seanloughlin3027
    @seanloughlin3027 Рік тому

    Beth. Thanks for this. My choir is just learning this at present. I’m a tenor and will be singing the solo plainchant. It helps to understand the words of the miserere which is Psalm 51 (sometimes designated as Psalm 50) which is one of the penitential psalms.

  • @aglandorf75
    @aglandorf75 2 роки тому +2

    There is a UA-cam channel called Common man and there is a group of I think people from India got introduced to this song and even those guys not knowing what they are listening to got got the point that music is connecting people regardless their ethnicity or even century

  • @margaretvanson3601
    @margaretvanson3601 Рік тому

    It makes me feel that it is a gateway to God. It's a sublime Communion with the heavenly. It's proof that beauty comes spiritual connection with our Creator.

  • @markdillon5494
    @markdillon5494 2 роки тому +1

    This is the song I want to hear when my time comes and *fingers crossed* I reach the pearly gates

  • @bcjammer
    @bcjammer 2 роки тому

    hearing this always brings me to weep

  • @thomassicard3733
    @thomassicard3733 Рік тому

    Excellent review! Thanks!

  • @Isabel-pm2im
    @Isabel-pm2im 7 місяців тому +1

    it is an amazing piece of music. I am lucky enough to be in a cathedral choir (exeter cathedral chorister) which sang this it sounded amazing! and the most incredible part is it is from years THREE TO EIGHT!!! so girls and boys from about 7 - 13 and yet it still sounded so beautiful, which proves age is just a number. the soloist is in year eight and honestly I think she possibly (not to brag) did better than that soloist I feel she had more warmth and shape.

  • @sinjinsmythe1571
    @sinjinsmythe1571 2 роки тому +1

    It's a song pleading for mercy from the Grace of God for when we f#cked up on an epic way. We've all been there.......

  • @mbg484
    @mbg484 2 роки тому

    there’s a pulse that caries through the music and means the different sections are never wholly separate, because that breath is always present.

  • @HappysHobbies
    @HappysHobbies 7 днів тому

    I cry whenever I hear this piece performed

  • @rcsskier
    @rcsskier Рік тому

    It's been a few years since I have seen Ghost, but they used to play this song and light incense before the curtain dropped. It was really quite an experience, an absolutely lovely song.