Professional Singer Reacts to Allegri's Miserere

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2022
  • Tenebrae Choir performs Allegri's Miserere
    Allegri's Miserere is one of the most famous choral pieces in the choral music canon. The legendary high C, the stunning polyphony, and the beautiful cathedrals in which its performed. In this video, I share my thoughts on Allegri's masterpiece, and even discuss the rumour and mystique surrounding W.A. Mozart
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 353

  • @thetenebraechoir
    @thetenebraechoir 29 днів тому +14

    Thank you for this lovely video and review - we are so happy to hear your thoughts!

    • @jl8138
      @jl8138 22 дні тому

      Nick should react to "Os justi" next!

    • @theLASK
      @theLASK 16 днів тому

      Wow, did not expect you to be here

  • @AllComposersbyNumbers
    @AllComposersbyNumbers Рік тому +25

    You're completely right, the story of Mozart's incredible transcription has been fiddled with over the years, but the main part of it is true. In letters from Leopold, his father, to his wife in Salzburg, he states that "Wolfgang managed to write down the work in its entirety on the Friday, then returned to make corrections on the Sunday". It happened when Wolfgang and his father were in Rome, and just so happened to be there during Holy Week. At the time, there were only three copies of the work, one in the Netherlands, one in England and the other in Italy, belonging to Italian composer and scholar Giovanni Battista "Padre" Martini. Also something that proves this point is that, after word got out, the Pope conferred upon Mozart the Order of the Golden Spur, which had only been awarded to one other composer: Christoph Willibald Gluck. Mozart then became a Knight, and signed all his manuscripts with "Cavaliere Wolf. Amadeo Mozart". Also, in the 19th century, German composer Felix Mendelssohn edited the work and added in the most famous aspect: the high C. This was never in Allegri's original manuscript, and has only been used since the 1890s, so some of the work isn't intact.

  • @keithhulks7049
    @keithhulks7049 Рік тому +74

    I was introduced to this piece 40 years ago and it blew my mind. I had never before heard anything so beautiful.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +12

      Couldn’t agree more. It’s by far one of my favourite pieces 😍🎉

    • @user-ti2xy9fv6z
      @user-ti2xy9fv6z 6 місяців тому +2

      I was in my early 20s , loved all sorts of music, punk, new romantic etc etc. And then I heard this, I honestly have to try not to cry, the beauty of the human voice

  • @angelchavez4997
    @angelchavez4997 Рік тому +54

    I sang the alto part in the four-part choir. This piece is a must for anyone who considers itself a singer. My recommendation is find yourself a choir that's all up to accept the challenge and do it.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +2

      Well said! It’s not an easy undertaking but sooooo worth it!

    • @Vanilthas59
      @Vanilthas59 5 місяців тому

      For those who read my comment, he is the teacher and director that showed me the song. Best regards

  • @johnbradbury4000
    @johnbradbury4000 Рік тому +33

    These singers perform it in such a way the one can actually hear and understand the words

  • @horaciopinto7494
    @horaciopinto7494 Рік тому +23

    For me it’s the most formidable piece of music ever written. If there’s Heaven, I think this could be very close to It. This choir is my favourite at performing this sublime piece. I’d like to thank this young musician for analysing and explaining it so beautifully.

  • @carolhayes7750
    @carolhayes7750 Рік тому +16

    I've been lucky enough to listen to this live twice. Once in church on Ash Wednesday and the other at a concert with the New College Choir from Oxford. The voices of those young Trebles were absolutely out of this world.

  • @isaiahbaggett5014
    @isaiahbaggett5014 Рік тому +16

    amazing piece and stellar choir - This group is PHENOMENAL. One of the basses used to be a member of the renowned King's Singers group. They are arguably one of the best period a capella groups in the world.

  • @OUVIR.INGLES
    @OUVIR.INGLES Рік тому +11

    I have been listening to this version several times, it is just amazing and angelical, the scenary, the voices, Tenebrae Choir made the best version of that masterpiece I've heard.

  • @chong2389
    @chong2389 Рік тому +6

    What a geek! Very respectfully from one geek to another. This is, without doubt, the best performance I have ever heard. Excellent reaction.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +5

      Hahah thank you! I love this music and am so excited to share my thoughts on it!

  • @MSScout86
    @MSScout86 Рік тому +15

    The Tenebrae Choir's rendition is my absolute favorite.

  • @st.bernadetteparish2540
    @st.bernadetteparish2540 Рік тому +5

    I first encountered the Allegri at a celebration of Tenebrae -- that is to say, in the evening, in a church with subdued lighting ("Tenebrae" means "darkness," and the Tenebrae liturgy entails gradually extinguishing the candles in the church), and with the scent of incense in the air -- with the choir arrayed antiphonally, so you got the spatial separation in the midst of all that atmosphere, and sung by excellent singers. Talk about a transcendent moment!

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +3

      Wow what an experience! This music is only elevated when you perform them at special venues, for special occasions. Thank you for sharing!

  • @simaadelifar4511
    @simaadelifar4511 Рік тому +10

    I love seeing your reactions to classical pieces like this! Keep 'em coming!😍

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +1

      Will do, Sima! Hope all is well with you - keep on singing 🎉

  • @grahaml6668
    @grahaml6668 Рік тому +4

    I too have been entranced by this work for 40 years. With or without the high notes. With or without the mythology attached to it.
    It's in my opinion the finest choral work ever written, and your video commentary here is spot on. Well done!

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +2

      That’s true, when you take away the mystique of it, you’re life with an utterly stunning piece of music!

  • @madelinekoch607
    @madelinekoch607 Рік тому +12

    I sang this with my choir a few years ago and I absolutely love this piece!

  • @singingcat02
    @singingcat02 6 місяців тому +2

    I sang this with my high school choir in a cathedral, for a messa. The small choir sopranos 1 and 2 both had incredible voices, the high C was stunning, and it was so beautiful I wondered how I even happened to be part of a choir that could do something so amazing and sound so majestic.

  • @elaineduncanson1474
    @elaineduncanson1474 Рік тому +7

    I have sung it a number of times. It was always for Tenebrae on Wednesday evening in Christ Church Cathedral in Fredericton New Brunswick. I agree that is an astoundingly beautiful piece.

  • @simaadelifar4511
    @simaadelifar4511 Рік тому +6

    The last part was really beyond this world. My soul just left my body.

  • @SirenaWomanWarrior
    @SirenaWomanWarrior 4 місяці тому +2

    I even just learned that Allegri actually was inspired by an earlier composition of Miserere (Festa). It's crazy how the high C wasn't even originally there.
    So beautiful.

  • @FromG2eminor
    @FromG2eminor Рік тому +3

    I've seen this video many times for several years. Such perfection!

  • @lefthandedclogger
    @lefthandedclogger Рік тому +8

    I got to sing this piece last year with a choir, and I sang Soprano - luckily not the one with the high C and all the pressure! The one who sang it was very capable and did a wonderful job. But it’s a stunning piece and will always be a favorite of mine, and has become quite close to my heart. Psalm 51 also is much more precious to me after having sung this piece. Something about truly sacred music to sacred text never leaves a person. I also really love the recording by Clare college and highly recommend it if you haven’t heard that one!

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +1

      Thank you for your comment! So glad you got to experience this piece 🙂

  • @tonygianni3803
    @tonygianni3803 Рік тому +107

    Proud to be Catholic Christian. 😌

    • @davidtrevino8202
      @davidtrevino8202 10 місяців тому +7

      🤨

    • @Krissws
      @Krissws 9 місяців тому +8

      The music has no religión

    • @MrCrunch808
      @MrCrunch808 8 місяців тому +3

      @@Krissws it technically does, but it doesn’t matter cause nobody understands the lyrics anyways.

    • @The_Amazing_King_Orion_YT
      @The_Amazing_King_Orion_YT 8 місяців тому +22

      We're not proud we're blessed to be catholic

    • @ryanmurphy7355
      @ryanmurphy7355 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Larbitoso_owe don’t listen to false prophets..when u are ready lord is waiting.

  • @Stephen8601
    @Stephen8601 Рік тому +3

    I really loved your commentary/reaction to this piece of music. Of all the reaction videos I've seen by voice coaches and musicians, you're the only one Ive heard that seems to know what you're talking about. Seriously! No Joke.
    When you are describing what is happening, I get the feeling of being drawn into the "action" of what is taking place there. Good job mate, and keep it up.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much, Stephen! It’s really fun for me to record these - I have a lot of thought these great pieces, and I love analyzing them and learning more ❤️🎉

  • @countertony
    @countertony Рік тому +3

    I used to sing this each Ash Wednesday as part of a university chapel choir which will remain nameless to protect the innocent - one year, the tenor soloist didn't show at all before the service, and the conductor filled in until he rocked up halfway through. I don't recall ever seeing that singer again.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +1

      Oh noooo! 😂 Yeah I can imagine they got sacked after missing such an important moment

  • @MrDominicharrison
    @MrDominicharrison Рік тому +3

    Always loved that Tenebrae choir video, never knew where it was performed! In my home town of all places! 🙏🏼

  • @Graceking76
    @Graceking76 Рік тому

    Watching this was like a door opening for me. I’ve never even thought about what goes into this kind of singing before. I was too busy enjoying it, I suppose. Thank you so much for the perspective, it actually kind of blew my mind!

  • @PWOL35
    @PWOL35 Рік тому +6

    I listen to it everyday and hope we will sing this piece one day with my Choir. Cheers from France !

  • @kissedbyhellfire
    @kissedbyhellfire Рік тому +8

    Such a beautiful rendition

  • @glmcreationsfilm
    @glmcreationsfilm Рік тому +6

    One of the greatest compositions ever

  • @dustinneitch5630
    @dustinneitch5630 Рік тому +1

    I love your videos and everything is awesome!

  • @wolfwingenfeld5200
    @wolfwingenfeld5200 Місяць тому +1

    Nice introduction into this marvellous piece.

  • @jess6011
    @jess6011 Рік тому +2

    Almost 16 minutes of goose bumps.
    Thank you for your input🙏

  • @aag24
    @aag24 7 місяців тому +2

    As a mere "civilian" I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your videos. Thank you very much sir! (I really wish I could sing … I stopped after school and miss it!)

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much ♥️ Your support means the world and I hope you know how much your super like means to me!!!♥️

    • @aag24
      @aag24 7 місяців тому

      @@nickhiggsthesinger You're very welcome. I hope we see more of you - you are extremely talented and personable. 🤞👍

  • @miladbozorgnia3571
    @miladbozorgnia3571 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for your awesome analysis Nick. I would love to know what happens in your mind and spirit, before you’re getting ready to sing it, during and after the very last note. It’s so impressively we’ll written for it’s time, it blows me away. What knowledge of acoustics and synchronicity. TY Nick!🙏🏼

  • @ujujessica9989
    @ujujessica9989 Рік тому +5

    I've always wanted to sing this piece 😭😭
    But our choir can't take the challenge, it's such an extraordinary piece. I'm just obsessed with this song 😍

    • @chicketychina8447
      @chicketychina8447 4 місяці тому

      If you all sing to God and not to he congregation everything will work

    • @ujujessica9989
      @ujujessica9989 4 місяці тому

      @@chicketychina8447 But do not forget that we're not just there to sing for God but to also touch souls. Humans and God will not respond in the same way, if you sing not so good, God won't be bothered, as long as you're praising him, that would be enough for him. But for humans, if you're trying to touch people's souls with music and pass a message, if it's not presented well, it would sound like noise to them instead ))

  • @bernadettewilkie5996
    @bernadettewilkie5996 9 місяців тому +2

    Guys do you remember listening to this when no one did "reaction videos"? I really am happy people are analyzing this because it tells me that people are interested in it. Its such a wonderful piece.

  • @m44p25
    @m44p25 Рік тому +1

    Beautiful piece! Great Video!!

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +1

      Thank you so much! Stay tuned for more

    • @m44p25
      @m44p25 Рік тому

      @@nickhiggsthesinger great! I’m more on the instrumental side of “classical” music, but I’m always excited to discover new choral works!

  • @mrghostly1118
    @mrghostly1118 Рік тому +2

    Just learned hundred new things about singing, thanks 🙏

  • @DavidLee-yu7yz
    @DavidLee-yu7yz Місяць тому

    Absolutely Superb and I one of my favourites since I heard this almost forty years ago

  • @shadoxir
    @shadoxir Рік тому +3

    Technical prowess needed to nail this piece aside, above all, the feeling it evokes is truly what makes it the greatest piece ever.

  • @horaciopinto7494
    @horaciopinto7494 4 місяці тому +1

    This young man makes me very attentive to his explanation; his knowledge is so profound that makes me hanging for every word he says. For me, this is the most celestial piece of music ever written. My God, it’s so good to be Catholic.

  • @Libradimple
    @Libradimple Рік тому +2

    It's the most insane and incredible piece I've ever sung... there's a lot of beautiful music and I've sung a lot of it, but this was the most beautiful piece for me... there's such a feeling in singing it...

  • @anselmjacobsmith639
    @anselmjacobsmith639 Рік тому +3

    Have you listened to James MacMillan’s Miserere? His setting of the text takes Allegri’s and builds on it in the way on a Scottish Catholic could. Imho, it even surpasses Allegri’s.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +1

      I have not! I will check it out for sure. Thank you for the suggestion!

  • @barendtobe6059
    @barendtobe6059 Рік тому +1

    Well thank you for this video.Well done!! Music that brings me to tears! Thank you for your information! Greetings from Utrecht, the Netherlands.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому

      You’re most welcome. One of my favourites, for sure. Stay tuned for more analysis!

  • @exaltedmasculine
    @exaltedmasculine Рік тому +11

    This is the most transcendental & haunting piece of music I have ever heard. It's feels like the holy love of God piercing straight through the heart.

    • @rykehuss3435
      @rykehuss3435 Рік тому +1

      Hard to argue with that, and I'm a Bach enjoyer first and foremost

  • @olivermackenzie9271
    @olivermackenzie9271 7 місяців тому

    I was able to hear this in the cathedral in Wellington new Zealand... just superb. Goosebumps and constant anticipation for the high c.

  • @cepsluvr
    @cepsluvr Рік тому +11

    Could that young musical genius Mozart have transcribed this piece on one listen? Absolutely. There are actually only three musical thoughts in the whole thing, repeated over and over again with different words. The five-part choir sings one, which is fairly straightforward; then the chant, which any musician of that time could have sung in his or her sleep; finally the descant choir, with the high C (probably not written by Allegri, but who cares?).

    • @mirabilos
      @mirabilos 10 місяців тому

      The way I heard the Mozart story was he had a listen, transcribed it, then went to a repeat performance to verify his transcription and fixup anything that needed it.
      And yes, people are somewhat convinced that the high part is transcribed too high somewhere along the way… but I guess it’s there to stay with us now. Only sad I can only get up to A₅ but that’s fine for a Ct I guess :D

  • @Secret_Agent_Mark
    @Secret_Agent_Mark Рік тому +2

    Not surprised the basses sounded good. In this case, they had a very VERY good bass amongst the singers. Stephen Parham-Connolly (with ringbeard or whatever it is called in English), former bass with the King's Singers, joined the choir for this recording.
    Of course they all sound amazing, even when Stephen isn't participating. But his voice brings an instant recognisable colour to the sound.
    Fun fact: Nigel Short is a former King's Singers too, as countertenor. He and Stephen were colleagues.

  • @vewilli
    @vewilli 3 місяці тому +1

    God speaks out of this incredible piece of music! 👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻

  • @voxveritatis3815
    @voxveritatis3815 Рік тому +6

    As a matter of fact, Mozart memorized the whole piece. Moreover, he retained all the notes in his mind until late that night, when he finally had a chance to transcribe it. When he showed the transcription to his father, Leopold Mozart, the astounded man almost flipped. Firstly due to the prowess. Secondly, due to it was strictly forbidden. So, What did Leopold do? He went straight to the Vatican and told the truth. Far from punishing young Mozart, the Pope received him, and praised him as a "miracle of God". Mozart's fame skyrocketed throughout Europe ever since.

    • @FireDragonArmy2
      @FireDragonArmy2 Рік тому +2

      Mozart. The world’s first music pirate. Dude was the original OG.

    • @voxveritatis3815
      @voxveritatis3815 Рік тому

      @@FireDragonArmy2 And you are the world's biggest disappointment, folk. The term piracy only applies when the property taken is proclaimed as your own. Mozart evidently never intended such an act. Secondly, the idea of copyright did not exist back then. Moreover, Bach borrowed lots of music from Vivaldi decades before Mozart had even been born. Conclusion: Calling you a disappointment was clearly an understatement. Mozart is the greatest master composer of all times. Like it or not, admit it or not. Cheers!

  • @thefiendboy4751
    @thefiendboy4751 4 місяці тому +4

    I was a 23 year old career drug dealer when I first heard this. It was so beautiful. It was the first time I cried(or felt anything) in years. I'm new to God and don't want to speak out of place, but this song introduced me to God's love and helped change my life, start a career, and focus on the Lord. I do not want to come off as evangelical, however; I've seen what the world has(money, ferraris, lambos, presidential suites in Miami, running around with 2 Chainz off duty bodyguards, $1000 "escorts" offering themselves to me cause i was the man, ect...). I've seen a lot of "wordly" things, and none of it, none, compares to the beauty and love of our Lord Jesus. God could literally start fresh whenever, but He loves us, and is giving each of us individually every chance HE can to use our own free will and repent.

    • @reecewood1918
      @reecewood1918 Місяць тому

      Welcome home friend. This is my favorite song and I'm sure it resonates with you for the same reason it resonates with me. It is a prayer for forgiveness.

  • @jakajakos
    @jakajakos Рік тому +3

    Heavenly music and performance

  • @hunterharris4869
    @hunterharris4869 8 місяців тому +1

    Check out the rendition sung by A Sei Voce if you wanna hear how it might've sounded with the ornaments. The basses don't have to worry about the inappropriate A-flat. While the high-C version is beautiful, the versions with improvised ornaments have me sold. Early Music Sources has a super in-depth on the piece if you wanna find out more about this "Frankenstein" version.

  • @ceciliasalgado3355
    @ceciliasalgado3355 Рік тому +1

    It is a masterpiece. So beautiful

  • @alankruza997
    @alankruza997 Рік тому +5

    I once read a comment by a confirmed atheist that if God really existed that this would be the music of Heaven. This piece takes one to a totally different place emotionally and spiritually. Thanks for this wonderful video.

  • @Vanilthas59
    @Vanilthas59 5 місяців тому

    This song was one of the very first songs my first choral director showed me (Not to sing, just to hear), and it instantly take up my mind. That was six years ago, and I'm still waiting for the time to have the opportunity to sing this with a choir.

  • @JJJRRRJJJ
    @JJJRRRJJJ Рік тому +56

    Love this, but i prefer with the boys choir. It’s a different sound, and feels unique and authentic.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +21

      I don’t know if I prefer it, but there are definitely clear differences. The tone of the boys choir gives it a bit more simplicity, more humbleness? Hard to put a finger on it.

    • @tomanthony3943
      @tomanthony3943 Рік тому +12

      The version I most often listen to is the Choir of Kings College Cambridge.

    • @frankteunissen6118
      @frankteunissen6118 Рік тому +5

      I agree. That high C from a treble is … indescribable.

    • @papagen00
      @papagen00 Рік тому +5

      True, we all know those Catholic priests love young boys.

    • @inceejigini9284
      @inceejigini9284 Рік тому +5

      @@papagen00 I see what you did here 😂

  • @Dave51677
    @Dave51677 Рік тому +1

    and know about this song because of your performance, and it's amazing

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 Рік тому +2

    And the best performance I have heard.

  • @augustobuczek2816
    @augustobuczek2816 Рік тому +2

    Belíssima song!

  • @mirkochicco9620
    @mirkochicco9620 Рік тому

    Bravo!

  • @Laurendapoz98
    @Laurendapoz98 Рік тому +1

    listening to this makes me miss college choir so much🥹💕

  • @mansfieldlukas1161
    @mansfieldlukas1161 Місяць тому

    This is one of five different classical choral pieces I enjoy ..

  • @juarez-crespo1415
    @juarez-crespo1415 Рік тому

    Muchas gracias

  • @henrivanbemmel
    @henrivanbemmel 4 місяці тому

    Probably this is in the comments below, but this is the 3rd version/arrangement of this. It was created by a mistake in transcription from the older works in the 1800's. Apparently, there was no edict from the pope, but it was sung outside of the Sistine chapel a few times and Mozart might have heard it before. This choir for me sounds bigger than the dozen or so voices. Remarkable.

  • @markhughes7927
    @markhughes7927 Рік тому +2

    It is to be supposed that Mozart had the audial equivalent to a photographic memory and that the story is true.

  • @vewilli
    @vewilli Рік тому +1

    I agree with you!

  • @zundema
    @zundema 10 місяців тому

    I love this rendition of this song

  • @georgealderson4424
    @georgealderson4424 Місяць тому

    15:29 I learned recently learned that the usually heard version is not what was intended. Nevertheless, what we hear here (!) is beautiful in the extreme!
    Such knowledge from such a young man! Blessings and peace sir.

  • @thomassicard3733
    @thomassicard3733 Рік тому +1

    There is not a MORE beautiful opening phrase in music.
    There are EQUALLY beautiful opening phrases, certainly.
    The entirety of musical genres demands that - and achieves that.

  • @Matthewcmiel
    @Matthewcmiel Рік тому +2

    No idea if the Mozart story is true, but it's actually a really easy piece for advanced dictation, because it very clearly follows what rules, so all you truly have to do is hear a couple important lines, and the shape of the piece, and you can copy it out. This was given to me as a dictation final in college, and it was not the hardest thing on the test.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +3

      You're right! The chords are pretty basic, but are definitely beyond my dictation skills. Thanks for sharing that - I didn't know advanced dictation was even a thing in college. Thats cool! What other pieces did you have to transcribe?

    • @Matthewcmiel
      @Matthewcmiel Рік тому +4

      @@nickhiggsthesinger I mean, it was a final, so this, a Bach Chorale, a Haydn Trio Sonata, a Schubert Song, and a fugue that was written specifically for this test that was 12-tone. Sounds the hardest, but I think the Schubert was the hardest.

    • @anhtrinh781
      @anhtrinh781 9 місяців тому

      Mozart could easily transcribe even more sophisticated pieces. Why do I know that? Look at Derek Paravicini, a living man, he can differentiate like 50 layers on top of each other so yeah, shouldn't be that hard for Mozart.

    • @Matthewcmiel
      @Matthewcmiel 9 місяців тому

      yup, totally agreed. Heck if I can do it, Mozart definitely can.@@anhtrinh781

  • @Richard-yd1ws
    @Richard-yd1ws Рік тому +1

    Should have given a shout out for Ivor Atkins of Worcester Cathedral, and friend of Elgar, who wrote out the Miserere for choirs
    Before then don't think anyone had heard of it
    I believe the top C is the only one in the repertoire
    Very difficult sometimes finding someone to reach it. For that reason often the piece is transposed down a tone or two

  • @manny75586
    @manny75586 8 місяців тому

    When I studied music in college, a few people with legitimate perfect pitch and good mastery of piano could transcribe as fast as they heard the piece (those of us "damned" with mere very good relative pitch usually needed two listens). So that part of the Mozart story I believe assuming he had something to write with otherwise we start assuming he had photographic memory which has never been attested to.
    The part of the story that gets passed around that is absolute bullshit, is that his transcription is what allowed it to be played outside of the Sistine Chapel as it is well known that it was released to the public long before he was born.
    P.S. love this piece and this performance in particular

  • @316Minecraft
    @316Minecraft Рік тому +9

    I sang this many years ago as a treble, and managed the top C! I love this piece!

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +2

      Good for you! Not an easy not for any singer, so well done!

    • @bahoonies
      @bahoonies Рік тому +1

      @316 neil Lucky you to have had such a good treble voice. And no doubt you sang in a very good choir. It's a sublime work.

    • @316Minecraft
      @316Minecraft Рік тому

      ​@@bahoonies Ha! I have no idea how I managed that top C, but I don't remember it being any effort. Certainly a good choir though, I was luckly to be involved, and it provided a musical grounding for the rest of my life really. I certainly can't manage high notes as well with my adult voice, I turned out to be a bass, though I sing baritone in a barbershop quartet. Work that one out!!

  • @wrorchestra1
    @wrorchestra1 Рік тому +1

    Funnily, the high soprano part is a cock up in the transcription. Once it was committed to paper, it was copied. Someone copied the soprano section but mistakenly transposed it an octave up. It proved very popular and it was kept.
    There is a great documentary on UA-cam about the history of the piece.

  • @a275ranger
    @a275ranger Рік тому

    That the final phrase would flow from minor and resolve in major makes perfect sense given the sequence of events during Holy Week.

  • @siegfriedhorner4436
    @siegfriedhorner4436 6 місяців тому

    As apocryphal as the Mozart story sounds, it's nevertheless easy to believe when we understand that Mozart was involved. After all, he could reasonably be considered to have been the greatest music prodigy in the history of Western music.
    So while the details might well have changed over the centuries, the basic story of Mozart's memory
    can easily be believed.

  • @jaidvance1376
    @jaidvance1376 10 місяців тому +2

    I wanna sing this with others sooo badly but it's so sad we don't have choirs from where I come from. :(

  • @martinkalk8256
    @martinkalk8256 3 місяці тому

    Listen to their recording with Signum it gets even better. Also the Mozart story was said he went back a second time to complete the transcription.

  • @theironherder
    @theironherder Рік тому +2

    Before this video, the only performance that I'd heard was Harry Christophers The Sixteen. Based on a fallible memory, I'd say the the Tenebrae Choir did just as well. As for the Mozart story, I'd check the archives of the Vatican (easier said than done, probably) to see if there is any record of a meeting of the Pope and Mozart, that being a key part of the account. If Mozart was indeed called on the carpet as he needlessly feared, there may be a paper trail. And if that part of the story is confirmed, the rest of it seems likely.

  • @jannieconradie8900
    @jannieconradie8900 Рік тому +2

    I prefer this by far before any boys choir...the rich woman voices..wow

  • @patrickmorgan7913
    @patrickmorgan7913 Рік тому +2

    The English are world masters when it comes to sacred choral music performance.

  • @saltywench
    @saltywench Рік тому +3

    How would anyone back then have been able to check? Unless they had a perfect pitch and memory like he did, Anyone listening to it without the sheet music in front of them would think it was exact. In all likely hood, he improved on what he heard. Maybe the reason the pope forgave him was because he improved it. At any rate, he heard it twice before it went anywhere, not once, because he went back "to make minor corrections." As the pope lifted the ban on writing it down, it seems likely the story is truish.

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому

      Thats a good point! From what we know of Mozart and his personality, it definitely is possible that he improved on what he heard. Definitely some partial truths in the story!

  • @jpaulluzolo1400
    @jpaulluzolo1400 Рік тому

    I listened to this song in 2002 I was a young boy and I really loved it

  • @robertfennell9631
    @robertfennell9631 8 місяців тому

    I was privileged enough to sing this amazing piece for ten years In Holy Week back in The 19~70s

  • @zaccarman9542
    @zaccarman9542 8 місяців тому

    If you need anything else to bring a tear to your eye, read the lyrics translation (psalm 51) while listening to it and realize what they are actually saying.

  • @vrael333
    @vrael333 7 місяців тому

    I sang it during my days in a boys choir. Maybe you’ve heard of it: the Kreuzchor (Crucifix-choir) from Dresden in Germany. It really is one of the most emotional songs I have ever sung.

  • @Paleos1000
    @Paleos1000 10 місяців тому

    Thanks for explaining aspects of this piece, clearly. It always leaves me a tragic mess.

  • @huskytail
    @huskytail Рік тому +1

    I generally prefer Orthodox chants, especially the Bulgarian tradition, but this is truly both beautiful and difficult. True mastery of a difficult art.

  • @henninggrundler7169
    @henninggrundler7169 Рік тому +2

    Sang it with st thomas boys choir, its harder to perform than you might think but it’s gorgeous

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому

      Yes it is quite tricky to perform! Thank you for sharing ☺️

  • @robcat2075
    @robcat2075 4 місяці тому

    Great piece. Wonderful performance. 3:15 If you ever wonder why old the castles and the old chapels and the old paintings in them are all dark and muted... it's those damn candles! They look sweet and innocent, but after a few centuries of lighting by candles, everything is covered in soot!

  • @rileypark6009
    @rileypark6009 Рік тому +1

    I think you need to check out the kings singers, two of their former members are in the choir! The conductor and the older bass singer

    • @nickhiggsthesinger
      @nickhiggsthesinger  Рік тому +1

      I’m uploading a video in a few days with the kings singers!

  • @zxbn4566
    @zxbn4566 10 місяців тому

    Italian musicologist Elam Rotem (Early Music Sources UA-cam channel) provides a detailed account of the post-composition evolution of Allegri's Miserere Deus; the version that we commonly hear performed now is not what Allegri originally wrote. He did not write in the notes for the solo plainsong bits, and it is now thought that performers have been using a different one to what he intended, for a long time. The key-change that results in the famous high C is the result of mis-transcription in the 1880's. Also it is important to bear in mind that Gregorio Allegri wrote this in the 17th century, by which time this kind of late-mediaeval polyphony was an archaic stylistic throwback to the times and works of Giovanni da Palestrina and Carlo Gesualdo.

  • @robertbowman5331
    @robertbowman5331 6 місяців тому

    One of the most ethereal pieces of music ever written. The only way you could have improved would be to have one of the 3 most famous men & boys choirs singing it: St. Thomas, Fifth Ave, NYC, or King's College Choir, Cambridge, or St John's College Choir, Cambridge.

  • @WarpRulez
    @WarpRulez 6 місяців тому +1

    You left out of the history of the piece the part where the modern version isn't actually the same as the original version. And I'm not just talking about subtle alterations in the ornamentation. I'm talking about an entire part of the composition being completely replaced by a pitched-up copy of the first part.
    That's right. The modern version has the original melody for its first verse, but the original had a slightly different melody for the second verse, and it was in the same key, rather than pitched up. William Smyth Rockstro, when he wrote his Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (1880), made a hackjob of the original composition: He took transcriptions from two different sources and just appended one to the other without any regard to the original. Turns out that the second source was also a transcription of the first verse, but it was written in a different key. This is what causes that very notable pitch change up in the middle of the song (giving us the famous high-C, which didn't exist in the original.)
    While serendipitously the end result sounds good, it's not the original composition. It is, in fact, missing an entire second verse that has its own distinct melody, different from the modern version. (This second part hasn't been lost. It's just not sung very often. Everybody just uses Rockstro's hackjob version for some reason. Including the choir in this video.)

  • @el7284
    @el7284 Рік тому +1

    Try the Tallis Scholars live in Rome version, or the 1964 King's reading with Roy Goodman on the top line

  • @paulhwbooth
    @paulhwbooth Рік тому +1

    Excellent. Thanks. J S Bach was very fond (too fond, perhaps?) of the Picardy third.

    • @BernardGreenberg
      @BernardGreenberg Рік тому

      All Baroque composers used it regularly; it was "standard" for minor-key pieces. The cases where Bach DIDN'T (e.g., BWV 542) are more interesting. Also interesting are the many pieces with huge Plagal cadences built into the final cadence, e.g., where movement in G minor goes through C minor at its end to end on G major, best example (IMO) _Sei nun wieder zufrieden_ BWV 21.9. This is an outgrowth of modal practice.

  • @bearieroblox6451
    @bearieroblox6451 3 місяці тому

    The thing about Mozart was true, the pope was so impressed that he knighted him, and you can see proof of it in his portraits.

  • @Jony5173
    @Jony5173 Рік тому +2

    Your pronunciations are ON POINT, mah man!

  • @Mercer1012
    @Mercer1012 Рік тому +1

    It is true concerning Mozart. The only copies that we have originate from the Salzburg copies that Leopold sold around Europe. However, these don't have many of the unique and special ornamentation that only the authorized copies of the Sistine Chapel and the one of the Holy Roman Emperor preserve. Mozart apparently needed two hearings for it to be fully transcribed, the first to get most of it, the second to make corrections (yes, Mozart made errors from time to time). Like others have mentioned, the setup of this piece having the same phrases over and over assists in transcribing. Mozart isn't special in that he could do this by ear, any professionally trained musician could do so, he was special because he did it at 13 and he *dared* to do so.