It's also interestingly more or less the grounds of a few actual religions on earth. That's essentially the deal with Vishnu in India, for example. It's not viewed in a horror sense either more of a life "life is but a dream" and therefore what you make of it sort of sense.
Applying the word 'uncle' to these abominations is amusing - one can imagine Yig coming to a family dinner, drinking too much, and making comments that embarrass young Cthulhu.
Its actually weird for me... cuz when you hear Nyarlathotep being the messenger your first thought is "oh cuz he's of a lower rank of authority" or something. When he's basically the Uncle of Yog and Shub who are always regarded to be super powerful. Just imagine Nyar coming home to dinner saying "No more christmas gifts for you two... I already stavalised and sprea dyour cults throughout the universe while adding madness and chaos to it! Thats enough family favors"
It's interesting to see how further down the line you go in the family tree, the more an entity form is defined, hinting to their more strong "attachment" to the physical world and a subsequent loss of power.
Just Some Guy without a Mustache it's all fun and games until somebody has to give a presentation on the ancestors of Cthulhu and attempts to pronounce all their names. Sounds like his mouth is full of shit and he's having a stroke well saying these names.
In true Lovecraft fashion, if you were able to pronounce the names correctly, it would probably ruin your vocal chords and the sound of the name would drive you mad.
@@sneeringimperialist6667 today he wouldn´t have named it that, since our society has come a long way, and lovecraft being racist wasn´t anything really special, it was actually normal at that time, that is of course no excuse but just sayin. also i recently read "the rats in the walls again" and even tho its not funny, i can´t help bu chuckle everytime he mentiones his cat.
@@Paulito-ym4qc the fact that he named his animal that when he was obviously affectionate towards it says a lot, too. It didn't mean the same thing back then that it does now. People had real problems and didn't blow a gasket over a stray word.
@@byHexted i'm not kidding. i never knew what cthulhu was until now. i'm on the other side of the globe and not everyone on earth knew about HP Lovecraft works.
@@sneeringimperialist6667 you would simply cease to exist just from existing in the same dimension as azathoth, and all his lovely children are there as well so goodbye existence hello void.
1, I feel like the camera wouldnt capture them. 2, the camera couldnt fit how big they all are. 3, there'd be no other being to take their picture without dying...
@@chillermiller3565 At least they are not going to go after us...since we are like the finest dust under the bed next to the 20 years old missing sock to them...right...?
I find it really silly that later authors needed to establish a family tree for Cthulhu. With the exception of Nyarlathotep being the "Soul and Messenger" of Azathoth, (which I take to mean a projection or avatar of Azathoth's dreaming mind, hence the thousands of forms...Azathoth's Mind and Nyarlathotep are pure chaos), Lovecraft never outright establishes the familiar relationships between the Great Old Ones and the Outer Gods. He mentions in Dunwich Horror that Cthulhu is the "cousin" to the invisible entities dubbed "Old Ones" that are using Yog-Sothoth to break through, but I feel like this is more of a relationship between species with a common ancestor rather than actual family. I think it cheapens the mystery and the horror to try and give the Great Old Ones human qualities such as family. Later authors like Derleth and Carter watered-down the mythos by doing this, stripping it of its evocative power and transforming the mythos from weird-horror to B-rated Sci-Fi. It may work for Rpg's, but it doesn't do Lovecraft's vision justice.
Even Lovecraft himself made the family tree along with his correspondent (Clarke I believe) as a fun joke between them, and didn't consider the Yogsothery (Cthulu Mythos) to have an orthadox connection between entities like in traditional mythology
@@BeachSamuraiStudios How am I lying? This is common knowledge if youre a fan of lovecraft's work. You should do some research before you start claiming people are this and that.
@@BeachSamuraiStudios Except a lot of the entities described in Lovecraft's works are beyond what we think of as conventional biological organisms. And definitely are not of the same species, or even apart of any species. Youre missing the point of his writing if you clump azathoth, shub niggerath, Nyarlethotep, and yog sothoth as belonging to a "species" just because they are all supremely powerful entities. These are more akin to cosmic forces then actual organisms.
@@BeachSamuraiStudios And yes, you can draw a cladogram for the various species of house cats and their relation to the various species of lions. So Im not really sure why youre going around commenting on people's intelligence when you feel the need to argue about subjects you clearly don't have a firm grasp on.
“The most powerful one of them all” I’d actually argue that Nyarlothotep is the one who holds the most power. From what I understand, he potentially has the power to awaken all of the great old ones and outer gods, including Azathoth. But simply chooses not to because that would spoil the fun he has with the lower beings.
actually, within lovecraftian universe, everything is just Azathoth's dream. so if he is to wake up; all reality, all the Great old ones and even the others Outer Gods, including Nyarlothotep, would simply disappear.
@F u n n y D a n k well, if so, even Yog Sothoth would be existant outside "the dream", but after some research you can find out that the only "real" being written by lovecraft is Azathoth, and even Nyarlathoteph is a product of "his" dream. that said, only based on what I know about the Outer gods, but I'm pretty sure it's correct. let me know if not.
@Dr. Bright Why does the foundation put put thier Top secret Data on SCPs on the Internet for the world to see, Then forbid thier Assoziats from talking about work with family and friends?
@@davideghirlanda2650 yes, nyarlothep and yog-sothoth are products of azathoth, yet they are able to exit it, (hencefore the name OUTER gods) yog sothoth is said to be everything (like literally everyhing that exists within the dream is yog sothoth, and nyarlothep is the soul of azathoth (that is way simplified of course) and while yog sothoth, and azathoth are way more mighty than nyarlothep, he is the most powerful, since infinite power is useless if you have no mind. sorry azathoth.
@@Gfish17 In the stories, it's implied that the files you read are individually declassified. That doesn't mean the agents can go home and talk about whatever they want. Some of the information in the files are redacted/blanked out, including names. Telling someone what you're doing at work is revealing at least one name from the Foundation.
In my honest opinion, to humanize the great old ones by giving them family relations and family feuds goes heavily against the themes in Lovecraft works. Lovecraft wrote this family tree in a letter as a joke. Derleth took it serious after his death however. The great old ones are not meant to be understood and categorized!
@@marcoasturias8520 You are correct in saying that the monsters in horror stories always represent ideas in the real world. In gothic horror, werewolves and vampires are obviously warnings for the "beastly side" of humanity, humans are the real monsters. Zombies and bodysnatchers might represent the fear of an ideology, which is fundamently different from yours. You might not know, who is your enemy, they could be your neighbour, everyone, and zombies are obviously one gigantic human mass, humans, but you can not be diplomatic with them, you can not appeal to their emotions, they are humans in shape only. But Lovecrafts stories should not be read that way. Cthulhu and the other monsters represent human insignificance. They are more representative of stuff like black holes, volcanoes, earthquakes etc, then human nature and evil.
I feel like the best compromise for this is to emphasize the fact that the "Lovecraftian Family Tree" is a concept *we humans* created as a feeble attempt to make sense of these behemoths. The Outer Gods and Old Ones reproduce for the exact same reason all living things do, to carry on the bloodline, but the idea of "family" is such a simple concept that it's insignificant to them. I mean, they clearly pay no mind to the concept of incest, since A) Cthulhu and Kassogtha are both "siblings" and "mates", B) Hastur is both Cthulhu's "brother" and "uncle", and C) Cthylla, one of Cthulhu's successors, is said to bring him back into the world should he perish, so it has to be an indicator that they either don't know or don't care about family. I agree wholeheartedly with the humanizing of Cthulhu and his kin taking away from the idea that they are beyond our understanding, but I also find it an interesting concept, so I feel like making it known that it's nothing more than a concept helps to bridge the gap and make it work.
Evil twin. Lol. I, personally would not consider as cannon anything that was not touched or explicitly approved by Lovecraft. The idea of human morality applying to HP's entities is the outcome of lesser writers and their fanfiction.
Witchfinder Finder idrc personally just take it as something else we don’t fully understand lmao, I treat it a lot like Star Wars lore where most of it isn’t even written by Lucas films but it’s damn good
I agree with this assessment. I could understand the motive for their actions being so nebulous and beyond our understanding that we would assign morality to them as an extension of our need to contextualize the world around us, as long as it’s explicitly known that we could only guess as to their intentions.
Osten Thomas exactly it’s lovecraftian what’s seen is never suppose to be clean cut and understandable but we’ll try our best to assess it however we can
I mean... Lovecraft had many unfinished books and would be impossible to have a mythos eith his works alone without having questions circling everywhere, more questions than we already have now. Plus its honestly more fun this way... more gods, more story. Gives a little answers to some other questions like how the great old ones got imprisoned. Cuz anything now can be blamed on elder gods
well the thing is that as long as it doesnt massively conflict with established lore, anything you or i write in the lovecraft mythos is kinda considered cannon. lovecraft encouraged other people to write stories set in the world he made, unlike tolkien who was pretty strict about his world and wouldnt let anyone do it as far as i know. that is why lovecraft stories are proper myths, they are stories told and written by many different people and ''mythology usually refers to the collected myths of a group of people'' so for example the story of medusa, one says she is a woman who got wronged by the gods and turned into the monster we know her as today, but there are mentions of medusa long long before the first mention of her human form, but both fit in the myths about the ancient greek pantheon. personally i dont consider her being raped and cursed to be a monster to be the cannon one, cause its made long after medusa as a character existed.
I find it so disheartening, when talking with other Lovecraftian Mythos fans, that they generally dismiss August Derelth or Robert Bloch's additions to Lovecraft's larger Verse. I think Howard would have cheered his buddies on.
This is about my first and 'deepest' dive into the whole Lovecraft universe. As a warcraft player im surprised to see how many names warcraft have been influenced from Lovecraft
Great video! I think it's worth noting that Lovecraft thought the idea of a "family tree" for his pantheon was more of a joke. The concept of deities breeding and making children is something that occurs in most pantheonic religions but the idea of two old ones bumping uglies and making a little star spawn baby didn't sit well with Lovecraft. Almost all of the alien species we see in his work reproduce in a non-sexual (budding or spores, ect) or are otherwise self replicating in some manner, probably reflecting Lovecrafts own discomfort with sex and physical intimacy. You describe it well in that it's more like a piece breaking off or an aspect of them gaining it's own sapience after separating from the whole, even in the cases where there is a monster mommy and daddy I think of it more like the two gods meeting created something new and twisted just from them being in close proximity. The only case of real breeding we can point to are Father Dagon and Mother Hydra but even then I believe these to merely be two exceptionally old and powerful deep ones and less full on gods, though The Shadow Over Innsmouth only proves how squicky and yucky HP thought mating was. Great content, hope to see more!
And yet, in The Dunwich Horror, he has Yog-Sothoth, one of the more cosmic and unknowable beings in the entire mythos, have sex with (and impregnate) some mere human woman. I mean, Yog-Sothoth is just a bunch of spheres (usually), how could he even do it? Much less, why would he want to? (Yeah, yeah, unknowable, incomprehensible, blah blah blah...) And of course, one could argue that if Lovecraft thinks sex is icky and unnatural, well, what better way to describe icky and unnatural deities than by having them have sex? I think Lovecraft can be strangely contradictory. He wants to have strange gods that humans can't possibly understand... and then he also creates a bog-standard snake god in the form of Yig (which may be due to Lovecraft rewriting another author's work, but still...).
@@SimonMoon5 Oh that's a good catch, I also always thought it was odd for Yog-Sothoth to mate with a human female. Like you say I suppose this could also be an example of Lovecraft pointing out the horrors that come from breeding and interbreeding.
@@MisterDTwenty a common theme of lovecraft is contamination (read, the penetration of boundaries by things outside those boundaries), and congenital doom. dunwich horror is both. the idea of an alien entity corrupting and impregnating a human woman (which ties into his racism thing as well, a supernatural horror iteration of the common fear of foreign sexuality influencing white women, the fear of contamination/violation in general feeds into a xenophobic worldview), and the dunwich child's being born corrupted. that being said, fuck lovecraftian genealogies. don't humanize these things, it ruins them. ideally something like nyarlathotep is so far removed from the natural order that it's hard to even call it alive, and any resemblance to human form or motives is just pareidolia. when i play call of cthulhu, azathoth is a boltzmann brain that contains the universe, and nyarlathotep is azathoth's "will to die" (its impetus to revert to a lower-entropy state, equivalent to a boulder's "will" to roll down a hill), vibrating through the universe, basically a cosmic death drive that infuses all things. the guy in the mask is basically just what you hallucinate when the death signal is overpowering you
Sean MacDonald I assumed it wasn’t in any kind of physical way. More like an immaculate conception. Like the mother is simply just the vessel to bring forth the ruinous entity into the physical reality.
@@yochanan770 There are plenty of references to the "Todash darkness" or "the Darkness between worlds" in King's Dark Tower cycle and a few descriptions of Lovecraft-style monsters. Hell, the entire goal of the Crimson King is to bring the tower down, which would destroy the barrier holding those monsters back.
Cthulhu seems to represent the 4 elements. His octopus head represents water, his wings represents air, his bipedal body represents Earth, and his inner rage represents fire.
In the Monsterverse it ought to be revealed later on King Gidorrah was just a herald of Cthulu and the chaos sewn amongst the monsters was masterminded by Cthulu the whole time.
Uh....if I have one negative criticism of the video, it’s that there’s not much separating it from a text-to-speech bot reading portions of other video scripts put together in a cohesive way.
Wiphin Magus I was more referring to the fact that he read direct quotes from videos by things like The Exploring Series, Mythology And Fiction Explained, and Tale Foundry.
It's so dumb to have a good twin and an evil twin. Like the reason Cthulhu seems so evil to us is because it doesn't comprehend human morality. We are ants to Cthulhu that can be smashed on a whim. That may appear evil to us, but to Cthulhu we are just not that important beyond our usefulness. Having Kthanid as a "good" version of Cthulhu is really stupid. Why would Kthanid care about us either?
@@jayzenstyle cthulhu is neither good nor evil, nor are his siblings. This family tree and the categorization of Lovecrafts gods goes back to derleth, who, although he completely saved Lovecrafts works from obscurity, also completely misunderstood the philosophy behind them. He made Cthulhu an evil water elemental of sorts (which is hilarious for someone who came FROM THE STARS). You are but ants to these beings. And whilst some might take a curious interest in you, the way you would take interest in an ant, or a rock, it would not hesitate for even a Moment, if you were in its way. (Yog-sototh might actually answer prayers, unlike Cthulhu, whose cultist will die on his awakening. Just like the rest of us) When you build a street, the destruction of an anthill is of no consideration, neither is the grass that once called the ground its home. That is the nature of Lovecrafts creations.
Depends on what 'canon' you go by, Lovecrafts, or Derleths. In Lovecrafts stories, Hastur was only mentioned once, and it was unclear if as a place or an entity. Only later writers introduced him more fully into the mythos. Also, don't take this family tree too serious. Lovecraft send it to a friend as a joke in a letter. The great old ones are beyond human understanding, just like an ant would fail to understand you and your intentions, when gazing up at you. There is no good and evil in the mythos. There is only significant, and not... Cthulhu destroying humanity is no more evil, then us destroying the ant nest by building a street over it. The ants were simply too insignificant to be considered. It is the same with 'family relations'. Try not to fall into the trap of attributing human emotions (Love, hate) and social roles (mother, Brother) into beings beyond your understanding.
You've fell into the biggest misunderstanding regarding Azathoth, he couldn't be the super-massive black hole at the center of the Milky Way. if set next to the Milky Way Galaxy, it is as a grain of sand next to the sheer physicality of Azathoth (take a moment to wrap your head around that, our galaxy, as a grain of sand), his physical presence, ALONE, is enough to prevent the formation of MATTER. The Universe as we know it, didn't start until several eons after Azathoth was lulled to sleep, and sealed away.
Very true. I've honestly been thinking... when we dream, we can still physically roam in the dream without having to wake up. So I was thinking... maybe he has a manifestation within this realm. But whatever it is... IS WAAAAAYYYYY SMALLER than whats actually dreaming reality as a whole.
@@mistergiraffe9425 yes! Because in the mythos all of reality is created my azathoth due to him literally sleeping. It's all a hazy dream. It might be an infinite amount of years to us but to azathoth? It might just be an instant that he was sleeping.
@@mistergiraffe9425 Azathoth does. It's name is Nyarlathotep. And Nyarlathotep has thousands of avatars and forms and can appear in any place in time or space it wants to. What does that say about Azathoth?
I dislike the whole blackhole analogy. Azathoth is pretty hard to envision, but I see it as a mass of chaos at the center of infinity, forever forming and devouring and reforming itself in an endless but restless sleep. If the universe is Azathoth's dream, then it projects that dream outward from itself. It doesn't exist at the center of the Milky Way. It exists at the center of all infinity.
That's cause harmerous Mora was an obvious nod to lovecraftian entities. Tentacles mouths and eyes are very common across them all. Alot of them even constantly change and writhe with mouths eyes and tentacles.
Del Toro is a big fan. He was working on adapting the Lovecraft story "At the Mountains of Madness", but the project collapsed and he and the team made "Pacific Rim". The amphibian from "Shape of Water" is also reminiscent of a deep one/the creature from the black lagoon.
They ALL come from Azathoth, it's just one big godly family and it's all good since inbreeding is impossible, or perhaps required, or inevitable, or desirable, or.... eh, it just doesn't matter and they don't care about it.
Zeus and Hera are siblings yet are husband and wife. Gaia and Chronos are mother and son yet are also together. Surely you know there are far more deities out there that have “incestous” relations out there. And by the way, it’s legal in every state in some capacity to marry either your first or second cousin in the court of law. Not just Alabama.
Nice use of the Cryo Chamber album cover for Azathoth! Have you heard all of their Lovecraft collection? Hastur is the latest, and is incredibly good. Thanks for the video-
There are great versions of his audiobooks in UA-cam. I hear then before I go to sleep, for the sweet, sweet dreams. Are you looking for story recommendations?
It comes from one of Lovecrats letters, which you can buy in book form. Although, many believe the family tree was intended as a joke, because people kept humanizing things vastly outside our knowledge. August Derleth, who saved Lovecrafts work from obscurity after his death, and also continued it (and thereby massively misinterpreting it :/ ) took the letter literally though
Here is the backstory of a novel I attempted to write some years ago but never developed, for fear of a backlash from the Tolkien estate: Azathoth and Eru Ilúvatar are one and the same entity; "blind idiot god" is the sort of misconception that tends to develop over many generations of oral tradition. Kathulos, Manwë and Melkor are brethren in the mind of Ilúvatar. Kathulos did not descend into the subuniverse Eä with his brothers, but remained for a while in the Timeless Halls with Ilúvatar, until, being of the same temperament as Melkor, he departed to seek a realm of his own to rule as he would, eventually finding his way across the Great Abyss to planet Earth, where he took on the raiment of an octopoidal creature, and is known in the myth cycles of our domain as Cthulhu. Like Melkor (a/k/a Morgoth), he arises in might, and whether consciously or not, R'lyeh is his equivalent of Angband of old. Many other Ainur there were who did not join with their kinfolk, the Valar of Eä; some also made their way to Earth, and it was they who built the city in Antarctica, discovered by the Dyer Expedition but sought in vain by subsequent explorers; for when Ilúvatar learned of our trespass into the ruins, he removed them forever from the circles of our world, just as he had removed Valinor from the circles of Arda after its invasion by the last King of Númenor. Danforth, who had accompanied Prof. Dyer in the ruins, passed away, not too quietly, in the Danvers state hospital; his last words, belched in frenzy, were, "The eagles are coming! The eagles are coming!" It is told in the Quenta Silmarillion that when Melkor/Morgoth was taken down, the two Silmarils that remained in his iron crown were recovered, but they ended up in the possession of Maglor and Maedhros, the surviving sons of Fëanor. Maedhros fell with his into a fissure that opened up at his feet during the tumults of the breaking of Thangorodrim; but Maglor, in his torment of mind, heart and body, tossed his far out into the great western sea; and so they passed out of the knowledge of the loremasters of Middle Earth. My story would tell that toward the end of the Second Age, when Númenor was sunk beneath the wave and the fashion of Arda was changed, the Silmaril cast into the sea by Maglor was washed out of Eä altogether through some rift in the cosmic fabric; but Melkor, who had been previously expelled through the Doors of Night, was aware of it, and lusting after it still, followed it across the Great Abyss even unto Yuggoth where it was captured by the denizens thereof, eventually to be brought by them to Earth, so that in the fullness of time, it would come into the possession of the Starry Wisdom Sect in Providence. But Melkor had no power to wrest it from them; it was too painful to his touch, and being a prisoner to both his lust for the holy jewel and his inability to abide light (much like the Orcs of his own creation "back home"), he was constrained to hide in the darkness of the steeple of an abandoned church on Federal Hill where the Sect held forth and kept the "shining trapezohedron", as it came to be known; but not being in its native domain, such light as it emitted came not from the Two Trees of Valinor before Ungoliant poisoned them. Brian Champion, an airline pilot forced into early retirement by persistent trouble with his right hand, is a great-grandson of Prof. William Dyer, who was ridiculed and forced to resign his position at Miskatonic University, because his claim of finding prehuman ruins and mountains higher than the Himalayas failed to be substantiated by the later expeditions. His wife, the former Lucie DeNuvio, is a soprano soloist in their local church choir. Both are strong believers in reincarnation and a life between lives in a realm of spirit, and in spirit masters who are ready to help those who can find a way to connect with them. With the help of renowned past-life regressionists and mediums, they learn the source of Brian's right hand problem, that they were together in a previous lifetime, and that the "shining trapezohedron" sitting at the bottom of Narragansett Bay holds the key to redeeming Prof. Dyer's reputation. Can you guess how I came up with the names Brian Champion and Lucie DeNuvio? Within Eä, it is the Gift of Ilúvatar to Men--and by extension of that, to Hobbits--that upon death, they must leave Eä forever; but then, their souls are free to reincarnate anywhere else in the universe and potentially find ways to connect with their past lives as far back as they go. As Aragorn said to Arwen on his deathbed, beyond the walls of the world are "more than memory". Beren was a mortal man to begin with, but Lúthien became mortal by her love for him...
Holy shit I just realized, the thing with tentacles , The "God" Mobius worships in " The Soul Reaver Legacy of Kain " series , the one responsible for bringing Raziel back , could be one of these guys, what a connection that would be ..wow. #soulreaver #legacyofkain
Well I mean, somebody made a theory that the reason the Dwemer disappeared was because they understood the reality of their world, couldn't take it and literally poofed out of existence from the knowledge. I'm talking about Skyrim over here. Oh and the reason they existed? It was all the dream of a higher being... It was Azatoth.
@@tacodude98 that third person game that came out on PS4 last year or something? No I mean like a dragon quest or classic SNES PS1 jrpg..not a silent Hill type horror game.
@@tacodude98 oh O thought you were talking about the action game.. sorry about that... I mean a rpg like final fantasy 1-9 or dragon quest games.. I don't have people to play board games with but thanks for the info though.
@@number1enemyoftheuseless985 No problem. Not sure if those kind of games would do lovecraft justice but its possible. The creatures themselves wouldnt be important as much as the themes themselves would: dread, uncaring universe, humans being insignificant, a universe thats unrecognizable once the protagonist gains certain knowledge, etc...
I have a small problem. In all of the readings I've made of Lovecraft, which I have read all of his works as well as some others. This "family tree" is ridiculous. Though there are a few progeny yes. Not all of these were related in the literary works. If you are going with Derleth, he attempted to familize the chaotic deities that Lovecraft never ever connected together. They aren't human in any respect so doing this is almost uncanon with the original Lovecraft ideas. So be aware, Lovecraft hardly ever established familial ties with his gods. This is only present in Derleths works and many Lovecraft purists consider him a hack.
Yes, 100% correct, thanks for pointing that out. This is the reason I dislike videos like this. They never even provide sources or mention that all of that bs is NOT lovecrafts work.
Considering he did make one as a joke between friends further cements it. They're not beings in the traditional sense, they're not flesh and blood or even made of anything we'd call matter. They're beyond it, well beyond it, past our grasp of anything. There just wouldn't be anything familiar about them like a family tree.
I don't know much about the H.P. Lovercraft universe but what is the point in having so many "evil" entities? Is there an opposite force to counter them or are they just there to show that behind a evil creature, there's is another far worse?
The good and evil Thing was introduced by Derleth after Lovecrafts death. The Horror from Lovecrafts Stories comes not from the fact, that there are powerful beings trying to harm us (werewolves, Demons, Vampires etc), but that we are not the centre of the story. We are utterly powerless, when compared to the vastness of the cosmos, these forces of nature are completely inhuman, they are not going to feel mercy, Just like they don't feel hate (they are more Like a black Hole or a volcano, then a Vampire, who is in a way a powerful, evil human), and all of our suffering will not have been for a greater Goal, because Humans are not the centre of the universe. Cthulhu does not hate humanity. He is simply indifferent. Imagine you want to build a Highway. Are the ants who live thre of any consideration to you? Even if you wouldnt harm them deliberately, you simply wouldnt care if they were in the way. For Lovecraft, we are the ants. And when the Machines come to flatten our home, No amount of bravery, intelligence and humanity is going to help us even a bit. The Matter cthulhu awakes, the ant hill is gone. We are utterly powerless
dont worry bout pronouncing the names right. there is no right way to say the names and i recalll learning that lovecraft would often pronounce the names differently everytime.
To expand on this comment, most of the spellings Lovecraft came up with are supposed to represent sounds that the human mouth is incapable of exactly replicating. The most prominent example of this, of course, is that the 'CTH' at the beginning of Cthulhu is supposed to represent a sound that is like 'CH' and 'TH' at the same time.
That would be difficult, because i dont think there is an afterlife in the cthullu mythos, sp the only reason to worship a great old one or outer god is personal gain, and the different cults of the gods sometimes fight each other. I think the closest thing to a unified religion humanity could get to is the all worship yog sothoth because he knows everything and could help us defeat cthullu and others who seek to destroy humanity
8:24 lold at Kthanid and Cthulhu ready to go at each other with the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty. They seriously brought those landmarks over a vast ocean to each other?
Their family barbecues must be something off the hook! I’d imagine some electric slide dancing with some Candy by Cameo at the function. And which one is the one who’s always sneaking plates to go🤔?
Well, remember, H. P. Lovecraft was a major racist even to racism standards at the time. A lot of his work actually spawned from his major racism and fear of interracial relationships/marriages
@@Paulito-ym4qc he had a lot of affection for his cats. It meant something different back then than the race baiting it's used for now. Not that it was ever good. He was sheltered and didn't get out in the real world very much.
Who wants Cthulhu for the MonsterVerse?
You know, that's a great topic. "What if Cthulhu was in Monsterverse"
MindQ yes do it!
@@mindq4328 cthulu would kill them all, the fight wont even be close
Cthulhu is so OP
Yeah, he would have to be nerfed considerably.
Everything is a manifestation of Azathoths dreams. When he wakes, everything ceases to exist... That is the most terrifying thing ever.
It's also interestingly more or less the grounds of a few actual religions on earth. That's essentially the deal with Vishnu in India, for example. It's not viewed in a horror sense either more of a life "life is but a dream" and therefore what you make of it sort of sense.
Like silent hill
Hooray for existentialism!
Well, someone wake his ass up already
This dream is annoying
Is tuntunatuntuntuntara also a figment of his imagine??
Applying the word 'uncle' to these abominations is amusing - one can imagine Yig coming to a family dinner, drinking too much, and making comments that embarrass young Cthulhu.
Its actually weird for me... cuz when you hear Nyarlathotep being the messenger your first thought is "oh cuz he's of a lower rank of authority" or something.
When he's basically the Uncle of Yog and Shub who are always regarded to be super powerful. Just imagine Nyar coming home to dinner saying
"No more christmas gifts for you two... I already stavalised and sprea dyour cults throughout the universe while adding madness and chaos to it! Thats enough family favors"
Can you pass the worshiper? Drops ig into tea, Thank you.
He is your creepy old uncle who gets drunk on christmas and makes unapropiate comments about your sister.
originaluddite It was a disappointing Christmas.
He's the granddad which falls asleep and scares wakes up briefly to throw the whisky bottle into the tv whilst the kids are busy turning it up.
How H.P. named his monsters: *smashes typewriter*
Edit*: Smashes Typewriter 👉🧠
@@미영숙인 you're probably right lol
Probably has these name ideas while he was choking on somethin
Yes
How H.P named his Gods **
It's interesting to see how further down the line you go in the family tree, the more an entity form is defined, hinting to their more strong "attachment" to the physical world and a subsequent loss of power.
The ancestors are getting closer to their original nature as it goes up: chaotic and incomprehensible.
Exactly, as we go doen the heiarchal status, we see *Gods* more humanoid and less incomprehensible.
Beings on Cthulhu level are still incomprehensible. The way we see him now comes from a drawing of a description made by a dying man.
It's all fun and games until Azathoth wakes up
*Azathoth is Herobrine's pet that's why his pet is also blind.*
I see you in every anime video I watch
I would just put him back to sleep
Just Some Guy without a Mustache it's all fun and games until somebody has to give a presentation on the ancestors of Cthulhu and attempts to pronounce all their names. Sounds like his mouth is full of shit and he's having a stroke well saying these names.
It's all until azothoth wakes up
"i hope i pronunciate it right"
Lovecraft: we don't do this here
In true Lovecraft fashion, if you were able to pronounce the names correctly, it would probably ruin your vocal chords and the sound of the name would drive you mad.
You can only pronounce those monster names correctly if you have a mouth like a squid.
"Only villains do that."
@@tinycrimester I always took they're impossible spelling as meaning humans couldn't really replicate most of their names.
K K dude. Try having a suspense of belief.
Sometimes its just nice to get together with the family.
Can nyarlathotep deliver a cake?
@@abijahkishretamal8322 No. Although Hastur brings macaroons.
@@cthulhu5702 can i order?
If I may ask what's your family reunion like?
@@dreademperor2094 Chaotic.
imagine using HP Lovecraft's names in a spelling bee
Yos
Shub Niggurath is pretty easy to remember
@@thebleachbartender1312 "Hziulquoigmnzhah" "Zstylzhemghi" "Zhothaqquah,the Sleeper of N'kai" Good luck at the spelling bee
@@kermit8173 I have another one: Ph'nglui mgwl'nafh C'tulu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.
Hastur is very simple.
Those names sounds like a cat has been walking on a keyboard, pressing random letters.
lovecraft actually had a cat, just please don´t look up its name
@@Paulito-ym4qc hint : he'd have angry mobs marching outside of his house if he called it that today...
@@sneeringimperialist6667 today he wouldn´t have named it that, since our society has come a long way, and lovecraft being racist wasn´t anything really special, it was actually normal at that time, that is of course no excuse but just sayin. also i recently read "the rats in the walls again" and even tho its not funny, i can´t help bu chuckle everytime he mentiones his cat.
@@Paulito-ym4qc the fact that he named his animal that when he was obviously affectionate towards it says a lot, too. It didn't mean the same thing back then that it does now. People had real problems and didn't blow a gasket over a stray word.
@@Paulito-ym4qc I did... I should have listen to you.
“Azarhoth, Who’s name which no man dare speak aloud”
This guy: “hold my beer”
real goon 👎🏾
Thats cuz his name is even harder to pronounce
Wait isn’t he a rapper? Lol
Its not his real name,tho
His real name cant even fathom by human mouth
Whos name cant be pronounce
Judging from this family tree, I can conclude that Cthulhu and his ancestors are from Alabama
Don't you mean Cosmic Alabama?
Sweet home Alabama
Or Egypt
They created Alabama.
I have a very strange Family.
imagine if H.P Lovecraft Cthulhu stories was made 4000 years ago, i bet it will become a religion cult
Funfact: Lovecraft's Mythos is partly based on Sumerian mythology which is roughly 6,500 years old
i'm sure there's already a cult
You’re kidding right? You do realize how big a cult this is right?
@@byHexted i'm not kidding. i never knew what cthulhu was until now. i'm on the other side of the globe and not everyone on earth knew about HP Lovecraft works.
Definitely hasn’t already happened
What a family picture, that would be...
You'd probably need a new camera after one picture. And some time in a sanitarium. ..
@@sneeringimperialist6667 you would simply cease to exist just from existing in the same dimension as azathoth, and all his lovely children are there as well so goodbye existence hello void.
1, I feel like the camera wouldnt capture them.
2, the camera couldnt fit how big they all are.
3, there'd be no other being to take their picture without dying...
You just need to be far enough away.
the camera man is the true god
Cthulu is nothing, he's insignificant, as we are to him, I think that's more horrifying.
Riot Breaker yeah to the great old ones we are less than ants we are literally nothing
@@zawarudo3582 but the great old ones are also less than ants to the outer gods
chiller miller yeah love some of that existential dread BABY
@@chillermiller3565 At least they are not going to go after us...since we are like the finest dust under the bed next to the 20 years old missing sock to them...right...?
@@zawarudo3582 we are ants ? but they need us to feed on us and or prayer to them lol
I find it really silly that later authors needed to establish a family tree for Cthulhu. With the exception of Nyarlathotep being the "Soul and Messenger" of Azathoth, (which I take to mean a projection or avatar of Azathoth's dreaming mind, hence the thousands of forms...Azathoth's Mind and Nyarlathotep are pure chaos), Lovecraft never outright establishes the familiar relationships between the Great Old Ones and the Outer Gods. He mentions in Dunwich Horror that Cthulhu is the "cousin" to the invisible entities dubbed "Old Ones" that are using Yog-Sothoth to break through, but I feel like this is more of a relationship between species with a common ancestor rather than actual family. I think it cheapens the mystery and the horror to try and give the Great Old Ones human qualities such as family. Later authors like Derleth and Carter watered-down the mythos by doing this, stripping it of its evocative power and transforming the mythos from weird-horror to B-rated Sci-Fi. It may work for Rpg's, but it doesn't do Lovecraft's vision justice.
yeah. they are meant to be incomprehensible by the the human mind, so their relationships shouldn't make sense to us.
Even Lovecraft himself made the family tree along with his correspondent (Clarke I believe) as a fun joke between them, and didn't consider the Yogsothery (Cthulu Mythos) to have an orthadox connection between entities like in traditional mythology
@@BeachSamuraiStudios How am I lying? This is common knowledge if youre a fan of lovecraft's work. You should do some research before you start claiming people are this and that.
@@BeachSamuraiStudios Except a lot of the entities described in Lovecraft's works are beyond what we think of as conventional biological organisms. And definitely are not of the same species, or even apart of any species. Youre missing the point of his writing if you clump azathoth, shub niggerath, Nyarlethotep, and yog sothoth as belonging to a "species" just because they are all supremely powerful entities. These are more akin to cosmic forces then actual organisms.
@@BeachSamuraiStudios And yes, you can draw a cladogram for the various species of house cats and their relation to the various species of lions. So Im not really sure why youre going around commenting on people's intelligence when you feel the need to argue about subjects you clearly don't have a firm grasp on.
The Great Old Ones are many things, but to say terrifying is the primary one is an understatement.
Eyyyyy scp
Also yeah
Oh hi dr bright. Where is the latest comtainment breach. I need to study it closer. It seems set up
there are no "great old ones"
You would say then: "sure there are, you fucking moron (or something like that)
I say then: "proof it"
You: .....
And like I said, I would even sell my soul (if this would exist) to live in the world created by H.P. Lovecraft. But unfortunatelly its not tru.
“The most powerful one of them all”
I’d actually argue that Nyarlothotep is the one who holds the most power. From what I understand, he potentially has the power to awaken all of the great old ones and outer gods, including Azathoth. But simply chooses not to because that would spoil the fun he has with the lower beings.
actually, within lovecraftian universe, everything is just Azathoth's dream. so if he is to wake up; all reality, all the Great old ones and even the others Outer Gods, including Nyarlothotep, would simply disappear.
@F u n n y D a n k well, if so, even Yog Sothoth would be existant outside "the dream", but after some research you can find out that the only "real" being written by lovecraft is Azathoth, and even Nyarlathoteph is a product of "his" dream. that said, only based on what I know about the Outer gods, but I'm pretty sure it's correct. let me know if not.
@Dr. Bright Why does the foundation put put thier Top secret Data on SCPs on the Internet for the world to see, Then forbid thier Assoziats from talking about work with family and friends?
@@davideghirlanda2650 yes, nyarlothep and yog-sothoth are products of azathoth, yet they are able to exit it, (hencefore the name OUTER gods) yog sothoth is said to be everything (like literally everyhing that exists within the dream is yog sothoth, and nyarlothep is the soul of azathoth (that is way simplified of course) and while yog sothoth, and azathoth are way more mighty than nyarlothep, he is the most powerful, since infinite power is useless if you have no mind. sorry azathoth.
@@Gfish17 In the stories, it's implied that the files you read are individually declassified. That doesn't mean the agents can go home and talk about whatever they want. Some of the information in the files are redacted/blanked out, including names. Telling someone what you're doing at work is revealing at least one name from the Foundation.
This guy just invoked the World End spell by saying all those names.
Aren't there still more?
Fucking finally.
*We have a BC-Class Universal Collapse event Scenario, I repeat we have a BC-Class Universal Collapse event Scenario!*
/kill all
Well, i think he was right after all....
We're gonna die.
Teacher: "Draw your Family Tree."
Me:
Nice
Brother?
@@rlyehian2229 stepsister?
@@_.neero24 ',:)
My great grandfather is *darkness*
Darkness, or as he’s otherwise known as Charlie Murphy
I am Rick James, bitch
"Darkness is spreading"...takes on a chilling new meaning 😶😊🤣
Hector Nonayurbusiness damnit, I was a day late!
Good god man. That was rippin' funny!
Yep
In my honest opinion, to humanize the great old ones by giving them family relations and family feuds goes heavily against the themes in Lovecraft works.
Lovecraft wrote this family tree in a letter as a joke.
Derleth took it serious after his death however.
The great old ones are not meant to be understood and categorized!
but it is fun to destroy the meaning of art...deep down, we are the real eldrich abominations.
@@marcoasturias8520 You are correct in saying that the monsters in horror stories always represent ideas in the real world. In gothic horror, werewolves and vampires are obviously warnings for the "beastly side" of humanity, humans are the real monsters. Zombies and bodysnatchers might represent the fear of an ideology, which is fundamently different from yours. You might not know, who is your enemy, they could be your neighbour, everyone, and zombies are obviously one gigantic human mass, humans, but you can not be diplomatic with them, you can not appeal to their emotions, they are humans in shape only.
But Lovecrafts stories should not be read that way. Cthulhu and the other monsters represent human insignificance. They are more representative of stuff like black holes, volcanoes, earthquakes etc, then human nature and evil.
I feel like the best compromise for this is to emphasize the fact that the "Lovecraftian Family Tree" is a concept *we humans* created as a feeble attempt to make sense of these behemoths. The Outer Gods and Old Ones reproduce for the exact same reason all living things do, to carry on the bloodline, but the idea of "family" is such a simple concept that it's insignificant to them. I mean, they clearly pay no mind to the concept of incest, since A) Cthulhu and Kassogtha are both "siblings" and "mates", B) Hastur is both Cthulhu's "brother" and "uncle", and C) Cthylla, one of Cthulhu's successors, is said to bring him back into the world should he perish, so it has to be an indicator that they either don't know or don't care about family. I agree wholeheartedly with the humanizing of Cthulhu and his kin taking away from the idea that they are beyond our understanding, but I also find it an interesting concept, so I feel like making it known that it's nothing more than a concept helps to bridge the gap and make it work.
Evil twin. Lol. I, personally would not consider as cannon anything that was not touched or explicitly approved by Lovecraft. The idea of human morality applying to HP's entities is the outcome of lesser writers and their fanfiction.
Witchfinder Finder idrc personally just take it as something else we don’t fully understand lmao, I treat it a lot like Star Wars lore where most of it isn’t even written by Lucas films but it’s damn good
I agree with this assessment. I could understand the motive for their actions being so nebulous and beyond our understanding that we would assign morality to them as an extension of our need to contextualize the world around us, as long as it’s explicitly known that we could only guess as to their intentions.
Osten Thomas exactly it’s lovecraftian what’s seen is never suppose to be clean cut and understandable but we’ll try our best to assess it however we can
I mean... Lovecraft had many unfinished books and would be impossible to have a mythos eith his works alone without having questions circling everywhere, more questions than we already have now.
Plus its honestly more fun this way... more gods, more story. Gives a little answers to some other questions like how the great old ones got imprisoned. Cuz anything now can be blamed on elder gods
well the thing is that as long as it doesnt massively conflict with established lore, anything you or i write in the lovecraft mythos is kinda considered cannon.
lovecraft encouraged other people to write stories set in the world he made, unlike tolkien who was pretty strict about his world and wouldnt let anyone do it as far as i know.
that is why lovecraft stories are proper myths, they are stories told and written by many different people and ''mythology usually refers to the collected myths of a group of people''
so for example the story of medusa, one says she is a woman who got wronged by the gods and turned into the monster we know her as today, but there are mentions of medusa long long before the first mention of her human form, but both fit in the myths about the ancient greek pantheon. personally i dont consider her being raped and cursed to be a monster to be the cannon one, cause its made long after medusa as a character existed.
I find it so disheartening, when talking with other Lovecraftian Mythos fans, that they generally dismiss August Derelth or Robert Bloch's additions to Lovecraft's larger Verse. I think Howard would have cheered his buddies on.
He did!
I never realised that I always wanted to know this.
Indeed!👍
@ It was an entertaining video, that's what matters to me
I imagine Nyalarthotep as the Loki of Lovecraft mythos
In a sense yes, he's also at times described as a trickster.
Slightly more evil and less ‘anti-hero’ (slightly is a major understatement; arguably Nyalarthotep is the only and most evil creature of the mythos)
This is about my first and 'deepest' dive into the whole Lovecraft universe. As a warcraft player im surprised to see how many names warcraft have been influenced from Lovecraft
Great video! I think it's worth noting that Lovecraft thought the idea of a "family tree" for his pantheon was more of a joke. The concept of deities breeding and making children is something that occurs in most pantheonic religions but the idea of two old ones bumping uglies and making a little star spawn baby didn't sit well with Lovecraft. Almost all of the alien species we see in his work reproduce in a non-sexual (budding or spores, ect) or are otherwise self replicating in some manner, probably reflecting Lovecrafts own discomfort with sex and physical intimacy. You describe it well in that it's more like a piece breaking off or an aspect of them gaining it's own sapience after separating from the whole, even in the cases where there is a monster mommy and daddy I think of it more like the two gods meeting created something new and twisted just from them being in close proximity. The only case of real breeding we can point to are Father Dagon and Mother Hydra but even then I believe these to merely be two exceptionally old and powerful deep ones and less full on gods, though The Shadow Over Innsmouth only proves how squicky and yucky HP thought mating was. Great content, hope to see more!
And yet, in The Dunwich Horror, he has Yog-Sothoth, one of the more cosmic and unknowable beings in the entire mythos, have sex with (and impregnate) some mere human woman. I mean, Yog-Sothoth is just a bunch of spheres (usually), how could he even do it? Much less, why would he want to? (Yeah, yeah, unknowable, incomprehensible, blah blah blah...) And of course, one could argue that if Lovecraft thinks sex is icky and unnatural, well, what better way to describe icky and unnatural deities than by having them have sex?
I think Lovecraft can be strangely contradictory. He wants to have strange gods that humans can't possibly understand... and then he also creates a bog-standard snake god in the form of Yig (which may be due to Lovecraft rewriting another author's work, but still...).
@@SimonMoon5 Oh that's a good catch, I also always thought it was odd for Yog-Sothoth to mate with a human female. Like you say I suppose this could also be an example of Lovecraft pointing out the horrors that come from breeding and interbreeding.
@@MisterDTwenty a common theme of lovecraft is contamination (read, the penetration of boundaries by things outside those boundaries), and congenital doom. dunwich horror is both. the idea of an alien entity corrupting and impregnating a human woman (which ties into his racism thing as well, a supernatural horror iteration of the common fear of foreign sexuality influencing white women, the fear of contamination/violation in general feeds into a xenophobic worldview), and the dunwich child's being born corrupted.
that being said, fuck lovecraftian genealogies. don't humanize these things, it ruins them. ideally something like nyarlathotep is so far removed from the natural order that it's hard to even call it alive, and any resemblance to human form or motives is just pareidolia. when i play call of cthulhu, azathoth is a boltzmann brain that contains the universe, and nyarlathotep is azathoth's "will to die" (its impetus to revert to a lower-entropy state, equivalent to a boulder's "will" to roll down a hill), vibrating through the universe, basically a cosmic death drive that infuses all things. the guy in the mask is basically just what you hallucinate when the death signal is overpowering you
Sean MacDonald I assumed it wasn’t in any kind of physical way. More like an immaculate conception. Like the mother is simply just the vessel to bring forth the ruinous entity into the physical reality.
@ryne green wow that Interpretation is great :)
Lovecraftian monsters makes Stephen king’s monsterverse looks like accidental babies. Change my mind.
Wasn't King's work inspired by Lovecraft
One could argue that Hastur is present in Dark tower. But still, these gods are immense where Kings creation are earth bound and defeated by mortals.
@@yochanan770 There are plenty of references to the "Todash darkness" or "the Darkness between worlds" in King's Dark Tower cycle and a few descriptions of Lovecraft-style monsters. Hell, the entire goal of the Crimson King is to bring the tower down, which would destroy the barrier holding those monsters back.
@@yochanan770 Randal Flagg/The Man in Black is canonically an aspect of Nyarlathotep, iirc
@@yochanan770 Cthulu was defeated by a tug boat so....
Cthulhu seems to represent the 4 elements. His octopus head represents water, his wings represents air, his bipedal body represents Earth, and his inner rage represents fire.
Never looked at it that way.
In the Monsterverse it ought to be revealed later on King Gidorrah was just a herald of Cthulu and the chaos sewn amongst the monsters was masterminded by Cthulu the whole time.
how’d u manage to spell ghidorah and cthulhu wrong in the same sentence
Uh....if I have one negative criticism of the video, it’s that there’s not much separating it from a text-to-speech bot reading portions of other video scripts put together in a cohesive way.
I don't think that's a reading bot....
Dark Rider I never said it was. I said it might as well be.
Well yeah... The voice recording was kinda bad
Wiphin Magus I was more referring to the fact that he read direct quotes from videos by things like The Exploring Series, Mythology And Fiction Explained, and Tale Foundry.
Wonder what family gatherings are like during the holiday season and what kind of gifts they give each other?
🎄🤔☃️
trying to pronounce these names properly is the best way to reach insanity
Is it though?
That's quite the point, but mines is simple.
These entities would give entities from SCP a challenge
the scarlet king would rate up there but i think anything above Hastor he wouldnt beat
I don't even think the SCP Foundation could do anything to stop the Outer Gods at that point.
The only one that I think could do anything is that one that is basically god I forgot it's namw
@@caco2884 Which one? SCP-343 or SCP-001 Swann's Proposal?
@@nono9543 343 I think
So that's where Dr. Zoidberg came from!
Ye! My headcanon is that they're lesser starspawn or something :D
@@tinycrimester no Dr zoidberg is cthulus brother why not
Imagine being known as a deity but then being called the deity of blindness and being an idiot
this post was made by the not Azathoth gang
@David Stoker I'm in the Nylarthotep gang come at meh
@Pure_Steve _1153 are you just salty because you're in the blind idiot gang :3
Azathoth is calling himself a blind idiot. Maybe he’s got some self confidence issues?
@@RealityRogue true...let's send in the therapist
@@unhingedconnoisseur164 so it would be Azathoth attending his own therapy session haha
Huh. I never new Great Cthulhu was an evil twin.
It's so dumb to have a good twin and an evil twin. Like the reason Cthulhu seems so evil to us is because it doesn't comprehend human morality. We are ants to Cthulhu that can be smashed on a whim. That may appear evil to us, but to Cthulhu we are just not that important beyond our usefulness. Having Kthanid as a "good" version of Cthulhu is really stupid. Why would Kthanid care about us either?
@@kenmorales9855 "good" in a sense that he is non-violent or doesn't move so destructively that will disturb the 'ants' living spaces.
@@jayzenstyle cthulhu is neither good nor evil, nor are his siblings.
This family tree and the categorization of Lovecrafts gods goes back to derleth, who, although he completely saved Lovecrafts works from obscurity, also completely misunderstood the philosophy behind them. He made Cthulhu an evil water elemental of sorts (which is hilarious for someone who came FROM THE STARS).
You are but ants to these beings. And whilst some might take a curious interest in you, the way you would take interest in an ant, or a rock, it would not hesitate for even a Moment, if you were in its way. (Yog-sototh might actually answer prayers, unlike Cthulhu, whose cultist will die on his awakening. Just like the rest of us)
When you build a street, the destruction of an anthill is of no consideration, neither is the grass that once called the ground its home.
That is the nature of Lovecrafts creations.
Isn’t Hastur the half brother of Cthulhu?
Yes
Shhhhhh!!! You're not supposed to speak his name!
🙊🤫🙊
^^^
You belong to him now...
You now serve The King in Yellow
Depends on what 'canon' you go by, Lovecrafts, or Derleths.
In Lovecrafts stories, Hastur was only mentioned once, and it was unclear if as a place or an entity.
Only later writers introduced him more fully into the mythos.
Also, don't take this family tree too serious. Lovecraft send it to a friend as a joke in a letter. The great old ones are beyond human understanding, just like an ant would fail to understand you and your intentions, when gazing up at you.
There is no good and evil in the mythos. There is only significant, and not...
Cthulhu destroying humanity is no more evil, then us destroying the ant nest by building a street over it. The ants were simply too insignificant to be considered.
It is the same with 'family relations'. Try not to fall into the trap of attributing human emotions (Love, hate) and social roles (mother, Brother) into beings beyond your understanding.
Also, my friend, have you seen the yellow sign :p
You've fell into the biggest misunderstanding regarding Azathoth, he couldn't be the super-massive black hole at the center of the Milky Way. if set next to the Milky Way Galaxy, it is as a grain of sand next to the sheer physicality of Azathoth (take a moment to wrap your head around that, our galaxy, as a grain of sand), his physical presence, ALONE, is enough to prevent the formation of MATTER. The Universe as we know it, didn't start until several eons after Azathoth was lulled to sleep, and sealed away.
Very true. I've honestly been thinking... when we dream, we can still physically roam in the dream without having to wake up. So I was thinking... maybe he has a manifestation within this realm. But whatever it is... IS WAAAAAYYYYY SMALLER than whats actually dreaming reality as a whole.
@@mistergiraffe9425 yes! Because in the mythos all of reality is created my azathoth due to him literally sleeping. It's all a hazy dream. It might be an infinite amount of years to us but to azathoth? It might just be an instant that he was sleeping.
You need to stop doing drugs.
@@mistergiraffe9425 Azathoth does. It's name is Nyarlathotep. And Nyarlathotep has thousands of avatars and forms and can appear in any place in time or space it wants to. What does that say about Azathoth?
I dislike the whole blackhole analogy. Azathoth is pretty hard to envision, but I see it as a mass of chaos at the center of infinity, forever forming and devouring and reforming itself in an endless but restless sleep. If the universe is Azathoth's dream, then it projects that dream outward from itself. It doesn't exist at the center of the Milky Way. It exists at the center of all infinity.
Azatoth's design reminds me of Harmeous Mora from the Elder Scrolls Series
That's cause harmerous Mora was an obvious nod to lovecraftian entities. Tentacles mouths and eyes are very common across them all. Alot of them even constantly change and writhe with mouths eyes and tentacles.
hermaeus mora was actually based on Yog Sothoth. Both are made of tentacles and eye/orbs and rule over the domain of forbidden knowledge.
As the publisher of CthulhuTech, thanks for the mention.
Guilhermo Del Toro needs to get a hold of this license for an epic monster pentalogy.
Del Toro is a big fan. He was working on adapting the Lovecraft story "At the Mountains of Madness", but the project collapsed and he and the team made "Pacific Rim". The amphibian from "Shape of Water" is also reminiscent of a deep one/the creature from the black lagoon.
Family reunions in this group must be a blast...
The Darkness is the weakest creature in H.P Lovecraft, it can't kill a weird floating white ball that gives people superpowers lol.
Destiny reference
@@Jaden-Ring you think that’s funny? Go to 2:40 and tell me what you see
@@shotgun6125 THE FUCKING PYRAMIDS
Sister and mate?
SWEET HOME ALABAMA
They ALL come from Azathoth, it's just one big godly family and it's all good since inbreeding is impossible, or perhaps required, or inevitable, or desirable, or.... eh, it just doesn't matter and they don't care about it.
Zeus: hold my beer...
Turn off that Lynyrd Skynyrd city boy *points hillbilly double barrel*
Zeus and Hera are siblings yet are husband and wife. Gaia and Chronos are mother and son yet are also together. Surely you know there are far more deities out there that have “incestous” relations out there. And by the way, it’s legal in every state in some capacity to marry either your first or second cousin in the court of law. Not just Alabama.
@@goliathxanatos706 he's making a reference to the Lynyrd Skynyrd song
Nice use of the Cryo Chamber album cover for Azathoth! Have you heard all of their Lovecraft collection? Hastur is the latest, and is incredibly good. Thanks for the video-
They need to add the Lovecraft pantheon to Smite.
They have cthulu theme skins...
Yes
@@christianruvalcaba7788 for which gods?
@@Natzghul111 Ah Muzen Cab
I can't remember their names but there's about 4to5 of em.
You forgot to mention his two uncles: Wilbur Whately, and the Dunwich Horror.
that name is still the funniest shit to me.
Arkham!
Dunwich Horror isnt Yog-Sothot?
No, it, and Wilbur are Yog-Sothoth's twin sons.
@@eduardoribeiroucv9630 ???????
Awesome video, I've never had the family tree explained to me in such detail.
my first time encountering H.P lovecrafts works
amazing work dude keep it up
Welcome to the madness.
legionaireb
I'll try my best to embrace the madness
There are great versions of his audiobooks in UA-cam. I hear then before I go to sleep, for the sweet, sweet dreams.
Are you looking for story recommendations?
Jonathan Böcker
yes please
with link too
Also Belated Merry Christmas and a Happy new year
Take Care and God Bless
This channel is AWESOME!!!! so glad I've found you! Great video!!!!! =)
2:37 He's HAVING A STROKE!
I want a TV Show about the Cthulhu Mythos so bad where 4-5 episodes are like shirt stories about people’s experiences/discoveries of certain gods
Interesting that I see Tiamat on the list. And fascinating that ancient mythologies are intermingled with the modern myth makers.
Nice compilation. Liked and Subbed
I have seen enough hentai to know were this is going
That's why I'm here!
Why'd you have to comment that?
great video! but next time try include some subtitles xD
hey man, where did you get this nice ancestry-tree? I looks realy nice and I would like to see more of it
It comes from one of Lovecrats letters, which you can buy in book form.
Although, many believe the family tree was intended as a joke, because people kept humanizing things vastly outside our knowledge.
August Derleth, who saved Lovecrafts work from obscurity after his death, and also continued it (and thereby massively misinterpreting it :/ ) took the letter literally though
@@aldoushuxley5953 thanks man
Awesome video!🙂🤘
9:33 Why is Ryuko Matoi on there?
I asked that same question. Probably using her face as some sort of example?
Now I know what to expect in December.
Here is the backstory of a novel I attempted to write some years ago but never developed, for fear of a backlash from the Tolkien estate:
Azathoth and Eru Ilúvatar are one and the same entity; "blind idiot god" is the sort of misconception that tends to develop over many generations of oral tradition. Kathulos, Manwë and Melkor are brethren in the mind of Ilúvatar. Kathulos did not descend into the subuniverse Eä with his brothers, but remained for a while in the Timeless Halls with Ilúvatar, until, being of the same temperament as Melkor, he departed to seek a realm of his own to rule as he would, eventually finding his way across the Great Abyss to planet Earth, where he took on the raiment of an octopoidal creature, and is known in the myth cycles of our domain as Cthulhu. Like Melkor (a/k/a Morgoth), he arises in might, and whether consciously or not, R'lyeh is his equivalent of Angband of old.
Many other Ainur there were who did not join with their kinfolk, the Valar of Eä; some also made their way to Earth, and it was they who built the city in Antarctica, discovered by the Dyer Expedition but sought in vain by subsequent explorers; for when Ilúvatar learned of our trespass into the ruins, he removed them forever from the circles of our world, just as he had removed Valinor from the circles of Arda after its invasion by the last King of Númenor. Danforth, who had accompanied Prof. Dyer in the ruins, passed away, not too quietly, in the Danvers state hospital; his last words, belched in frenzy, were, "The eagles are coming! The eagles are coming!"
It is told in the Quenta Silmarillion that when Melkor/Morgoth was taken down, the two Silmarils that remained in his iron crown were recovered, but they ended up in the possession of Maglor and Maedhros, the surviving sons of Fëanor. Maedhros fell with his into a fissure that opened up at his feet during the tumults of the breaking of Thangorodrim; but Maglor, in his torment of mind, heart and body, tossed his far out into the great western sea; and so they passed out of the knowledge of the loremasters of Middle Earth.
My story would tell that toward the end of the Second Age, when Númenor was sunk beneath the wave and the fashion of Arda was changed, the Silmaril cast into the sea by Maglor was washed out of Eä altogether through some rift in the cosmic fabric; but Melkor, who had been previously expelled through the Doors of Night, was aware of it, and lusting after it still, followed it across the Great Abyss even unto Yuggoth where it was captured by the denizens thereof, eventually to be brought by them to Earth, so that in the fullness of time, it would come into the possession of the Starry Wisdom Sect in Providence. But Melkor had no power to wrest it from them; it was too painful to his touch, and being a prisoner to both his lust for the holy jewel and his inability to abide light (much like the Orcs of his own creation "back home"), he was constrained to hide in the darkness of the steeple of an abandoned church on Federal Hill where the Sect held forth and kept the "shining trapezohedron", as it came to be known; but not being in its native domain, such light as it emitted came not from the Two Trees of Valinor before Ungoliant poisoned them.
Brian Champion, an airline pilot forced into early retirement by persistent trouble with his right hand, is a great-grandson of Prof. William Dyer, who was ridiculed and forced to resign his position at Miskatonic University, because his claim of finding prehuman ruins and mountains higher than the Himalayas failed to be substantiated by the later expeditions. His wife, the former Lucie DeNuvio, is a soprano soloist in their local church choir. Both are strong believers in reincarnation and a life between lives in a realm of spirit, and in spirit masters who are ready to help those who can find a way to connect with them. With the help of renowned past-life regressionists and mediums, they learn the source of Brian's right hand problem, that they were together in a previous lifetime, and that the "shining trapezohedron" sitting at the bottom of Narragansett Bay holds the key to redeeming Prof. Dyer's reputation.
Can you guess how I came up with the names Brian Champion and Lucie DeNuvio?
Within Eä, it is the Gift of Ilúvatar to Men--and by extension of that, to Hobbits--that upon death, they must leave Eä forever; but then, their souls are free to reincarnate anywhere else in the universe and potentially find ways to connect with their past lives as far back as they go. As Aragorn said to Arwen on his deathbed, beyond the walls of the world are "more than memory". Beren was a mortal man to begin with, but Lúthien became mortal by her love for him...
I'm not going to read that right know but damn (i'm going to comment when i eventually do read it).
Wow! A crossover with tolkien and lovecraft
🤢 I don't know how you pulled that off bro, I understood everything you said! BRAVO!!
2:41 I hope you *didn't* got the pronunciation right. Its the whole point of these names.
Great video, enjoyed it much!
Holy shit I just realized, the thing with tentacles , The "God" Mobius worships in " The Soul Reaver Legacy of Kain " series , the one responsible for bringing Raziel back , could be one of these guys, what a connection that would be ..wow.
#soulreaver #legacyofkain
Well I mean, somebody made a theory that the reason the Dwemer disappeared was because they understood the reality of their world, couldn't take it and literally poofed out of existence from the knowledge. I'm talking about Skyrim over here. Oh and the reason they existed? It was all the dream of a higher being... It was Azatoth.
That was AWESOME!!!! thanks man!!!!
06:00 I tend to ignore Derleth as he is infamous for not getting the nihilistic point of the cosmic horror of the Lovecraftian Mythos.
Well this entire family tree goes back to Derleth interpreting a joke in one of Lovecrafts letters seriously
where is that picture from at 1:01 ? is it a movie? or something
Where did you get the family tree from??
Ancestry.com
HP Lovecraft made it in one of his letters. But some of these are actually from the Extended Cthulhu mythos
@@mistergiraffe9425 notably, a joking letter, that was taken as serious by Derleth later...
Sweet video man thanks for real!
As much as I like bloodborne this whole lore would make a insane rpg to play.
*These pictures are so sick
Call of Cthulhu TTRPG has been around for decades now, check it out
@@tacodude98 that third person game that came out on PS4 last year or something? No I mean like a dragon quest or classic SNES PS1 jrpg..not a silent Hill type horror game.
@@number1enemyoftheuseless985 No. Call of Cthulhu, the TTRPG (Table Top RPG) thats been out since the 80s
@@tacodude98 oh O thought you were talking about the action game.. sorry about that... I mean a rpg like final fantasy 1-9 or dragon quest games.. I don't have people to play board games with but thanks for the info though.
@@number1enemyoftheuseless985 No problem. Not sure if those kind of games would do lovecraft justice but its possible. The creatures themselves wouldnt be important as much as the themes themselves would: dread, uncaring universe, humans being insignificant, a universe thats unrecognizable once the protagonist gains certain knowledge, etc...
You know it's just great that you showed some cryo chamber name, really. They work hard on their dark ambient creations!
"Have you ever came to question your own sanity?!"
Great video keep it up
Aza "Thot"
No. Just...no.
"Death slut" - Aza in old Egyptian/ Hebrew meant "Death". Thoth meant "Knowledge". So Dead Sluts... ;p
@Pure_Steve _1153 he wakes up and goes huh? Oh shit late for work
Good video. I just wish there was captions.
I have a small problem. In all of the readings I've made of Lovecraft, which I have read all of his works as well as some others. This "family tree" is ridiculous. Though there are a few progeny yes. Not all of these were related in the literary works. If you are going with Derleth, he attempted to familize the chaotic deities that Lovecraft never ever connected together. They aren't human in any respect so doing this is almost uncanon with the original Lovecraft ideas. So be aware, Lovecraft hardly ever established familial ties with his gods. This is only present in Derleths works and many Lovecraft purists consider him a hack.
Yes, 100% correct, thanks for pointing that out. This is the reason I dislike videos like this. They never even provide sources or mention that all of that bs is NOT lovecrafts work.
Considering he did make one as a joke between friends further cements it. They're not beings in the traditional sense, they're not flesh and blood or even made of anything we'd call matter. They're beyond it, well beyond it, past our grasp of anything. There just wouldn't be anything familiar about them like a family tree.
I don't know much about the H.P. Lovercraft universe but what is the point in having so many "evil" entities? Is there an opposite force to counter them or are they just there to show that behind a evil creature, there's is another far worse?
There are no evil creatures. We are to them as ants are to us. That is the point
The good and evil Thing was introduced by Derleth after Lovecrafts death.
The Horror from Lovecrafts Stories comes not from the fact, that there are powerful beings trying to harm us (werewolves, Demons, Vampires etc), but that we are not the centre of the story. We are utterly powerless, when compared to the vastness of the cosmos, these forces of nature are completely inhuman, they are not going to feel mercy, Just like they don't feel hate (they are more Like a black Hole or a volcano, then a Vampire, who is in a way a powerful, evil human), and all of our suffering will not have been for a greater Goal, because Humans are not the centre of the universe.
Cthulhu does not hate humanity. He is simply indifferent.
Imagine you want to build a Highway. Are the ants who live thre of any consideration to you? Even if you wouldnt harm them deliberately, you simply wouldnt care if they were in the way.
For Lovecraft, we are the ants. And when the Machines come to flatten our home, No amount of bravery, intelligence and humanity is going to help us even a bit. The Matter cthulhu awakes, the ant hill is gone. We are utterly powerless
"Kassogtha is a Great Old One that is reportedly to be Cthulhu's sister and mate." I didn't know Cthulhu was from Alabama
Alaethbama*
Like your all videos (super cool)
"cthaeghya" the one anime image that makes the chart completely broken. GG
That would be a family reunion to see.....
dont worry bout pronouncing the names right. there is no right way to say the names and i recalll learning that lovecraft would often pronounce the names differently everytime.
To expand on this comment, most of the spellings Lovecraft came up with are supposed to represent sounds that the human mouth is incapable of exactly replicating. The most prominent example of this, of course, is that the 'CTH' at the beginning of Cthulhu is supposed to represent a sound that is like 'CH' and 'TH' at the same time.
Dude, I really love the content youve been pushing out but you should really invest in getting a good mic quality.
Imagine if the world developed around the cthulu mythos as a religion.
That would be difficult, because i dont think there is an afterlife in the cthullu mythos, sp the only reason to worship a great old one or outer god is personal gain, and the different cults of the gods sometimes fight each other. I think the closest thing to a unified religion humanity could get to is the all worship yog sothoth because he knows everything and could help us defeat cthullu and others who seek to destroy humanity
A place of dark wonder and black miracles. ..
Watch ‘In the mouth of madness’ (circa 1995) with Sam Neill. Not Cthulhu, but the feeling is right....
I think it's be hilarious if it was somehow better... and I'm not entirely convinced it would be worse lol. We as a species....fuck up a lot.
Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼🖖🏼
8:24 lold at Kthanid and Cthulhu ready to go at each other with the Eiffel Tower and the Statue of Liberty. They seriously brought those landmarks over a vast ocean to each other?
Their family barbecues must be something off the hook! I’d imagine some electric slide dancing with some Candy by Cameo at the function. And which one is the one who’s always sneaking plates to go🤔?
I'm curious what the family mapping for some of the dnd pantheon look like
Azathoth: Has many *EYES.*
Also Azathoth: **Blind**
Man and I thought I had family problems.
where can i read the stories about this , is it like norse , or greek mythology with stories?
THERE S A WHOLE FAMILY OF THEM????
Where did you get the Family tree with the pictures?
Those names that start with n sound like something else .
Well, remember, H. P. Lovecraft was a major racist even to racism standards at the time. A lot of his work actually spawned from his major racism and fear of interracial relationships/marriages
@@jcmohr he married a Jewish woman, he couldn't have been that much of a racist. ..
@@sneeringimperialist6667 just look up his cats name. theres a diffrence between racism and anti-semitism
@@Paulito-ym4qc he had a lot of affection for his cats. It meant something different back then than the race baiting it's used for now. Not that it was ever good. He was sheltered and didn't get out in the real world very much.
I do agree with a lot of the points made. All of you clearly have done your research.
That picture at 1:07
That’s so Cthulhu!! Powerful image.
Only reason I came here is because I saw Yog-Sototh and immediately thought “Abigail Williams”
Are you fgo player?
I love that band.
I was unaware that the evil great old ones had equally good counterparts, that is quite a relief
Categorizing these beings as good or evil misses the entire point of Lovecraftian horror.