What If Okuyasu Was Smarter With THE HAND
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"This is a question I've oftenly asked myself"
"Coming from the Jojoveller guide book I read oftenly"
*"Oftenly"*
Ah, truly a mastery over the English language.
I’m like Shakespeare, I make words up to fit my narrative 💯💯💯
Za hando
Yooo it's purple Haze
Hey why you ourple
@@METAsMETAsWhenst has someone done something like this OTHER than Shakespeare? HAS anyone else done it?
@@METAsMETAsWhat a chad
imagine rohan and okuyasu fighting a really strong enemy and they get desperate so rohan writes okuyasu as smart
smart 100
writes 300 IQ
@@Gamfluent I’d imagine smart Okuyasu would still side with Rohan/Josuke, I doubt being smarter would turn him into a villain since he would probably already be going in with his moral, emotional, and ethical convictions. They’re his friends, so the only situation I’d see him turning on them would be one where their sacrifice is somehow necessary to beat their opponent.
Rohan: There's no other option. I see no other way. We might unleash something worse by doing this but; Okuyasu; look!
Okuyasu: Huh? *looks at manuscript*
Rohan: *Writes Okuyasu is as smart as I am* [Because Rohan is kinda self-hyping he'd probobly use himself as the smartest thing here; also this would probobly give Okuyasu the imagination of Rohan as well as a mangaka...]
Okuyasu proceeds to dominate the entire Jojoverse.
@@Gamfluent *Scrape what rohan wrote*
It's a commonly repeated joke - at least in circles I'm a part of - that, since time and space are inherently linked as a result of time being the fourth dimension, Okuyasu should in theory be able to erase time as well by extension of his ability erasing space.
So King Crimson’s ability (Time Erasure) but slightly more literally?
@@jonathanrhodes4547 yep
Oi josuke, I was told by Rohan that space and time is basically the same and the hand turned into this red guy, ain't that wacky?!
@@Memrlord kingu crimson
So it’s the same type of stand as king crimson
Kira with the hand, has the perfect way to dispose of the bodies, has an ironic name, has the intelligence to use it well, and allows him to not be hit by his own attacks like he was worried of with killer queen's explosions
Killer Queen is better, it's less messy, doesn't affect the environment and can be done instantaneously.
Wonder of u 🗿
Kira with the hand would be Killer Cream
@@altho2022 SUS
I don't think he's ever had to be concerned about getting hit by his own attacks, his explosions don't seem to affect anything besides his target.
Smart okyasu wouldn't use his ability immediately. Imagine the enemy thinks he's just a rush stand like star or diamond and while fighting up close, he just erases their stand's head without warning.
won't even know what hit them, they were alive one second, looking at the bus departing the next
I guess Okuyasu can erase only what he understands. Even if you may think "If that is how does he know how to erase space ?" it's because it is as complicated as it is simple. He simply erases "everything" that is in front of him. He doesn't erases more complicated concepts such as time or fate because it's simply is not "real enough" for him. So yes, if he was more imaginative or had a deeper understanding of the world around him he'd be one of the most terrifying stand there is.
i always interpreted it as erasing the air in front of him and the vacuum plus supernatural power of the hand caused the teleporting.
@@fireblast133 Because that's exactly what he does. When he swings his hand he creates a void which forces what's around it to fill that space. It is basically the same ability as Cream, only without Cream's limitations.
@@MagmaMKII I do wonder, if Okuyasu managed to get smart....ould he theoretically scrape something and only erase specific things? Like if he scraped the a flower pot and only removed the pot itself, leaving the plant and soil?
@@fireblast133 Definitely, yes.
All this thinking iw making me stressfull
The Hand could also, hypothetically, bring Wonder of U closer without triggering Calamity, especially combined with Heaven's Door erasing intent.
Oooh that’s a nasty combo fr but what I think is glossed over especially when I’m watching the anime is how does the hand actually work can he use his fingers for micro swipes or only full hand swipes? what if he’s in timestop is it being erased or already erased cause there’s a distinct delay in the anime to display what it’s doing.
This could work as Wonder of U only works if someone is pursuing the Stand or the User, not the other way around. By bringing Tooru or Wonder of U closer to him with erasure, Okuyasu can straight up ignore it's effects
Either that or Wonder of U would cause Okuyasu to erase himself.
No that 100% would be pursuing Wonder of U. If Wonder of U triggers "pursuit" with even thinking about it...
@@raikaria3090 I always imagined a joke about tooru making an online delivery... only for the delivery driver to have to deal with WoU, ending up there after 6 hours battered and bruised
If Okuyasu was smarter he would have ended Part 4 in the beginning
If he was smarter, he wouldve killed jouske
@@protoman4622 That's what I meant
not necessarily, if we give okuyasu decent intelligence, he would have not been subservient to his brother upon realizing that he is the more capable of the two. this would leave okuyasu to make his own decisions and since he is not actually a bad person, he might not even be willing to fight josuke in the first place.
@@windhelmguard5295 okuyasu start to become villain... because he know what he can do...
If smart Okuyasu is considered “hyper-lethal,” imagine that doubled with him getting pierced by a requiem arrow.👁👁
I imagine Vanilla Ice's Cream Requiem.
I think that would hurt.
The Hand requiem: a shining finger that can erase anything in existence by pointing at it. Retains the same abilities as The Hand.
He’s just a teenager and people want him to become a fugitive of the law
the hand requiem: left hand to delete, right hand to create, and is able to delete/create entire realities and be able to ascend reality and simulation
can kill Azathoth and scp 3812
I could easily imagine The Hand being the stand of a main villain. Imagine how scary it would be if Kira or Diavolo had The Hand
GER depending on if Gierno could😮 survive long enough vs za hando and getting the Arrow away from a guy who can manipulate space is impossible so no GER
@@nicholasaugello2534The Hand does not beat GER
If he was smarter, I think he would learn it has a second hand and can just swim through reality
The power resides only in the right hand as stated multiple times in both the anime and manga and shown in the design.
@@SageSylvie but sometimes when the hand does a barrage attack, both of his hands can erase although with a weaker erasure.
@@bestdadoftheyear7181 That is literally completely false. The barrage attack he did on Superfly clearly shows only his right had erases. Anytime you think he's erasing with both hands is when he's actually only using his right hand.
@@SageSylvie He could, however, swing his right hand back and forth or in circular motions and indefinitely erase things
@@paranoidpanzerpenguin5262 Maybe. It's never been confirmed how long he can keep the erasure going. There's probably a limit or Okuyasu doesn't know he can do that. His left hand cannot erase things and is just a normal Stand hand
When you realize The Hand: The World was possible but Okuyasu isn’t smart enough to pull it off.
Kinda reminds me of jotaro simply levatating in the fight against dio💀💀💀
@@edwardmuyunda6469 He was doing that via stand leap
wasnt that a dio and girono go to mcdonalds joke
@@aexites6690 a very confusing one at that
No no: The Hand: No World
I personally like to imagine that Okuyasu would simply pull out "ZA HANDO ZA FINGA", which would erase smaller amounts of space. It'd make next to no sense given his actual abilities, but it'd be funny. (And versatile!)
Can you imagine him using starfinger
@@dustytoyknife2343 “So it’s the same type of stand.”
@@idrfkwhattoputhere113"You fool, ZA HANDO ZA WARUDO!"
Instead of scraping he scratches, and only erases the area of his fingertips.
@@conallirvine5157deletes the universe
Imagine okuyashu with Joseph's intelligence 💀
okuyashu
@@MeloAvis yes I know okuyashu
HOREY SHEEEET
Kars’s
OH MY GOD
Another "What If this character was" scenario you could do is "What if Kira was a fighter" or "What if Kira enjoyed the art of battle". I bring this up because in part 4, Kira is shown that he doesn't like fighting and doesn't really know how too. And when he does fight, he takes the cheap and easy way out, and also doesn't use his stand to it's full potential. So if Kira knew how to fight, he'd be more dangerous and more overpowered than he already is. Realistically, all Kira has to do is touch you once and it's over.
This is kinda of explored in part 7 I think but without the serial killer part.
@@zooshirashad6800 Not really, part 8 Kira is a totally different character with the same name and similar character traits as part 4 Kira. Part 8 Killer Queen may look the same as part 4 Killer Queen. But they don't function the same and can't be utilized the same way because their abilities work differently. So no, it hasn't been explored.
@@zooshirashad6800 the two kira different one even has questionable amount of sheer heart attacks
I mean Kira could literally hakai you very easily lmao
@@DigitalVDisk And yet he lost to Josuke due to a lack of speed and battle experience.
Considering the erased space pulls and teleports, he could make some crazy deadly projectiles by, let's say, erasing the space between a car and his enemy.
Or an ambulance...
He learns that he can do that the hard way while fighting Josuke… it backfired because he’s an idiot
He does that to himself by accident when Josuke dodges his erasure and makes Okuyasu erase the space between himself and some plant pots
@@cherrycola4476
Omg when Okuyasu erased Kira’s bubble he pulled the ambulance in closer so it would hit Kira 😱
If the hand can erase literally anything, and Okuyasu gets a massive intelligence buff, Okuyasu could just erase his mortality and become unkillable.
“Oi Josuke, I used ZA HANDO and erased my humanity! I’m moving beyond humanity, JoJo!”
@@spiggityspoo756"I REJECT MY HUMANITY JOSUKE! ZA HANDO: ZA WARUDO!"
I feel like even if Okuyasu was made smarter, it would come down to how fast he actually is in performing the action of swiping. Even though he can erase “anything,” it is not explicit on what his stand must do physically to make it happen. Giorno didn’t know he was able to regrow limbs and body parts right off the bat, he had to learn how to actually do it. In Okuyasu’s case, he’d have to figure out how to erase something that isn’t in the physical plane like a concept. It’s one thing to think it, it’s another to actually execute it physically.
Late, but pretty true, in fact with further exploration could he just erase without having to swipe? Like what if the hand could just hold out it's hand and continuously erase space in front of said hand? Or you know, use more than one hand lmao. I also feel like it wouldn't be as hard as one would think, he can erase space but's he's not actually understanding the concept, he just erases everything in front of him. So could he think of time flowing and erase it? How would that even work since the hand seems to only erase with it's hands. Could he just age someone really fast by erasing their time?
Growth stats is a C, so maybe a potential 2 hands.
If Okuyasu had the will to erase something like a disease/illness and swiped you, I'm assuming you wouldn't get deleted just the part he had the will to erase? Because If that's the case then he can do medical stuff too o_0
I wonder if Okuyasu could create stuff as well by removing the lack of a thing.
"Oy Josuke, I erased the lack of a sandwich in front of me and one appeared. Ain't that wacky?"
If what is erased is intent Based he’s even more op 😭
The erasure needs him to "scrape" something with the palm. He wouldn't be able to do precision things unless he got some sort of new power which allowed the palm to phase. [and even then only effect some things]
@@raikaria3090 he can "scrape" air though. So as long as there's air he'd be able to use his power
@@raikaria3090 stands can already phase through things
Something neat I thought of for a hypothetical Za Hando Requiem is the ability to remove events from causality, thus changing the effect of what happened. For example, if he was told about what happened to his dad, he could erase the event of him receiving the flesh bud from DIO, thus returning him to normal. I'm not great with the implications of such a thing, so let's say it doesn't fuck up the timeline. It is something he wanted most, and it fits with the theme of erasing.
Not to rag on your idea because it's pretty cool but that specific event I'm pretty sure would remove his stand because be inherited it from his father I could be wrong unless you give him a possible immunity to paradoxes so he can't ever prevent his own birth
@@fungamesandstuffwhy2516 It being a problem assumes that time works in a way that would allow paradoxes, if time were say... relative then paradoxes could never happen in any meaningful way. Oh wait... time is relative, (and is also the same thing as space from a physics perspective), meaning Okuyasu can erase time and causality as he pleases with no repercussions, no limits fallacy is fun
If it worked akin to how Legacy of Kain did it... oh boy some history breaking is in order.
I swear JoJo's has the strongest "weaklings" they may not be able to destroy a star or universe (maybe except MIH, GER, and TWOH) but their abilities allow them to completely shred anyone capable of destroying said star/universe.
They aren't that powerful, it's there hax that makes them really hard to beat , like most characters in fiction can't do much about the hax but alot of them like Majin Buu would laugh off any attack that they tried to pull on them
@@nicholasaugello2534ee dont care about dbZ
Jotaro could still win, he doesn't need time stop. He just needs one thing.
"So it's the same type of Stand as Star Platinum."
I can imagine Okuyasu erasing the atmosphere of a time stop to lend a helping hand with a smile on his face.
I feel like he'd do something crazy like, literally just spinning with za hando, making a weird void vortex. Or unlocking his real proficiency: using two hands, literally doubling his power.
Beyblade the hand would definitely earn his spot as stronger than tusk
he could totally just stand there holding his hand absorbing the air around him to end the world via sucking up all the atmosphere.
The sheer potential of za hando is absurd like this thing is wasted on Okiosu, I haven't seen wasted potential like this since Orochi from one piece, dude has the powers OF A HYDRA and dies 8 times , like not that Okiosu is that bad but damn he has the potential to overtake tusk act 4!
His growth stat is a C, so 2 hands actually is possible.
Always awesome to see people giving my boy some love, easily my favorite character/stand in JoJo's
Okuyaso beating valentine with love train is a wild take
He can't, Valentine is in a pocket dimension and all misfortune is redirected
@@Anonymous-xq5cs Literally bro any attempts art erasure are directed to another point on the planet
If he can erase anything, then misfortune goes with it.
And again, if he can erase ANYTHING, then he can erase ANYTHING.
Infinite spin? Boom
Misfortune? Boom
Love Train? It's something, so boom
@@Anonymous-xq5cs”no limits to its powers” -araki
Joseph is the most painfully obvious benchmark for “smart”, able to even predict what his opponent is going to say next.
I like to think that Okuyasu used to be smart before he hit himself with the potted plant
Smart Okuyaso would probably invent new and more powerful techniques, I like to think he would wave his hand in circles to create a constant scraping motion, basically a black hole at that point.
Smart okuyasu wouldve perminantly died because of reverse plot armor.
Araki wouldve found him too strong making the plot overall boring for the reader
Also KILLA QUUEEN already touched the read more button >:)
I highly doubt The Hand would be able to take on the "top 3", seeing as it needs to touch something or something has to be in an attack's way in order to remove it and put it elsewhere.
WoU has at least a planet-wide range, and the only real thing Okuyasu would have to worry about is everything else trying to kill him as he pursues WoU.
GER's RtZ only activates upon IMMINENT attacks, not after or before when it starts, although it'd be pretty funny seeing its reaction.
S&W: GB vs The Hand, on the other hand, is a whole different ballgame.
Okuyasu erases his ability to get hit by attacks, no-limits fallacy goes hard
I haven't yet read JoJolion yet, but: Does WoU trigger if it is forced to approach someone? If not, he could just stand there, Handing away the distance to pull WoU in.
Arguably, erasing the distance isn't even "Moving" per say, it's just getting rid of what's between them.
@@calemr WoU's ability is triggered by intent, so even if you don't take an actual action against it it will still trigger if you have the intent. Josuke bypasses it by basically forcing WoU to pursue him instead of the opposite.
@@MagmaMKII I think that he uses some kind of non existing bubble that can't trigger WoU
Regardless it would be a good fight
I image that The Hand Cannot get rid of Time, Fate, Calamity. Because those are still nontangible concepts that cannot be easily erased.
Well time and space are related so in theory he could get rid of Time a bit like King crimson time erasure ability
his attacks probably are like the soft and wet go beyond attacks, if you read the explanation they give for why those can ignore calamity sounds really similar to what the hand does
I think it can remove calamity in the case of WoU, since it is implied to be the embodiment of calamity, thus, giving it a tangible form.
@@shytsu7090 i mean what level of space manipulation does the hand has it seems to be bound to 3d as he never exactly was able to do anything to time stop or bites the dust or even be able to erase time and it seems to be it's limit since it was never applied that it had more or would come back again to show more
but it says based off of the user's will and plus what if he just removes the fabric of space, think about it if a chunk of space is removed from the world the rest of the space would register that chunk of space as 0. NOT MATTER BUT SPACE ITSELF and would just fall into itself. so if we highball him he just instawins everything cus he can remove a dimension
This video is just as I expected I'm not disappointed you should do more
Okuyasu literally brought himself back from the dead. That's where his stand sends things, the other side or the mortal veil, and it can do the reverse (maybe only while on the other side). Would be interesting to think if after he came back, and had the ability to return objects from the other side. Maybe with his left hand.
I feel like smart Okuyasu would have his "scrape the enemy" more as a finisher rather than his primary form of attack, probably relying more on either teleporting himself to the enemy or the enemy to himself and use the momentun to strike harder, also pulling the scenario towards the opponent to strike them.
What if Ermes makes a copy of an item with a sticker, then Okuyasu erases the original item and then you remove the sticker from copy item. Where would happen to the copy item??? I loose sleep thinking about this
What an excellent video! I love Okuyasu, so seeing his unmet potential explored is super gratifying. I imagine Joseph would have had a ball with this Stand, had he been so blessed!
Smart okuyasu is literally king crimson confirmed
I imagine smart Okuyasu to be like Patrick from that one episode where he hits his head so hard he just unlocks his full potential.
Part 4 would’ve ended in the first few episodes if he just erased the space between himself and something behind Josuke.
What If speedwagon had a stand?
Ideas on what could happen. Okuyasu can choose what to scrape away, which means he can choose not to scrape away other stuff. He could scrape away your blood without harming anything else. He could scrape away the ground underneath to leave hidden pitfall traps. The chemical bonds holding your atoms together. What about connections to Stands? Sex Pistols is a sentient Stand, so if Okuyasu removed their connection to Mista, would they be able to just go out and do their own thing? Would removing the connection make non-sentient Stands sentient?
The Hand: Requiem. Now the scrape isn't limited to just his hand, or whatever is in reach.
The Hand: Go Beyond. Can erase dimensions and different levels of the multiverse. Can reverse the erasure, but only things it's already erased.
Edit: Something I thought of. Would this Stand be useful in everyday life? Particularly with it's No Limits Fallacy. I would definitely want it, it would be extremely useful in my everyday. What about you?
Sex Pistols💀
I would want it JUST for its mobility
I wonder what would happen if Okuyasu makes the hand scrape around him so many times rapidly and basically create something like a scrape sphere.
Would something like that just sucks in the entire universe like a blackhole and deletes everything when he's finally done? Pretty insane if that's the case since he basically just deletes everything and protects himself at the same time since nothing would be able to get through the scrapes.
Too slow to do that, bit interesting concept none the less
@@bg8561 bro i don’t even know how to think anymore😂since he’s “supposed to be near light speed said in 6:43
@@bg8561 Oh GOD I’m just now thinking about him swiping all around him with that speed 😂like imagine him saying “ZA HANDO, “BLACK VOID”” and you hear bookoo VROOOMM sound effects around him while everything comes crashing down onto him🤣🤣🤣
@@V.KaiserX no, he said that the "teleportation" ability is limitless speed, because teleporting doesn't count travel speed, it's almost instantaneous, the problem is thay Okuyasu needs to erase the space, but ZA HANDO!!!, is slower than Crazy Diamond, and this one is slower than Star Platinum, so it's very likely that ZA HANDO!!! can't reach light speed levels.
@@V.KaiserX Like cream but with attraction?
What if The Hand's left hand could always return anything that was swiped away, like quantum storage, but Okuyasu was always too dumb to think "what if I used the left hand?"
That was a very entertaining video, i'm definitely subbing
Prepared for another banger 😈
I think GER would still be able to reset what he erases by simply not letting put his hand up? Simply reset him every time he moves his hand and boom. Someone find a problem with my theory it seems wrong but I can’t find a na argument against it.
Ive been waiting for this one
The video just started and I already love it
We need a spin off of this man where's he's actually a genius but acts stupid so it doesn't ruin his character
Araki the only guy to nerf an op character by making them an absolute dumbass😭
Goku and sakura in this boat too
@@xxcridonxx7614goku is a genius when it comes to fighting, and the only he was ever nerfed in a fight is him letting his opponent power up, but that isn’t him being stupid, that is him wanting a good fight.
"If you found this video enjoyable..." bro I just started ._.
Alternative title: Guy from METAs bullies Okuyasu for 12 minutes 27 seconds
I mean the one "limit" is, as JJBA but really really fast puts it, the, and I quote "mad fold in"
Everybody gangsta till Rohan writes "has an iq of 200" onto Okuyasu
Your thumbnails are always so sick
yknow i always read the “cutting space to pull enemies” thing as him just removing the particles from the air, creating a vacuum which sucks enemies in naturally
Oi Josuke, Rohan made me smarter for the sake of curiosity and I think I just erased the concept of fate itself.
*Ain't that wacky?*
_Meanwhile, in Florida..._
*Enrico Pucci: - DECEASED -*
It also works on himself too. i.e "I remove my need to breathe" "I remove my physical limitations in speed" "I remove my inability to see past the natural color spectrum" If you take it to a meta level, he has no limit in any regard.
"I dont have short range anymore"
So he can erase spins like the golden rectangle from sbr and josukes spin from jojolion
"I've erased your future" so dark, need light
4:55 The reason why Okuyasu could attack Red Hot Chili Pepper was because he wasn't powered up. If Red Hot Chili Pepper was charged up enough fight Okuyasu, Okuyasu would probably have died.
That's probably what they meant when jotaro was scared of it too.
Yeah Red hot Chili Pepper with electricity the size of Toyko would be so deadly idk if Star Platinum would beat it
GER modifies your will to "zero". They only show Diavolo throwing blood at Giorno in order to be able to let the viewers SEE what GER can do, but it changes your will, which means you wouldnt even be able to start an attack towards Giorno. GER wouldnt allow Okuyasus hand to get to him
GER is among the very few stands which would defeat smart The Hand
Edit: Nevermind, Okuyasu could erase his own existence to basically pull a S&W:GB
Bro imagine he discovers how to erase time like King Crimson or erase his own injuries
imagine The Hand Requiem, would just point and erase things lol.
Now I wanna know if an intelligence increased Okuyasu and “Za Hando Za Wardo” (patent pending😂) could beat “Wonder Of U” considering that there’s no way for “Wonder Of U” to get away from them (for long at least)
I really hope we see some sort of spin off of the hand in part 9 ✨✨✨✨
I would love to see an AU by oraki where okuyasu is just straight up smarter and it goes through his old fights and biggest lows to revisit how they would play out.
Okuyasu with 2 brain cells is god tier.
Okuyasu could literally erase the concept of him needing the swipe for the hand to work making it work long range
Does it count as pursuing if WoU is being brought to Okuyasu? It would likely activate since he's thinking about attacking him, but does the calamity recognise the scrape teleport as him getting closer?
WoU is triggered by intent, so yeah.
What we could also assume that if he had an intelligence increase either battle smarts or understanding of his stand he may be able to figure out new ways of using the hand, like how Jonny can use the holes he creates to move his whole body or just parts of his body to different places, or how Kira "leveled up" his stand with the arrow and stray cat, same could be said about the hand something like creating traps that go off when needed or being able to open up the place in space the objects end up if it is some sort of pocket dimension kinda thing (since Okuyasu says he doesn't know where the stuff he erases goes, unless the hand literally ignores the lore of conservation and erases matter entirely)
The hand is basically all points in strength + its all concentrated in one hand
Can you do what if Kakyoin survived?
I truly hope in the jojolion universe the hand is given to a smart villain so it can truly be unleashed
This thing has MAIN villain potential
I can just imagine the speed the hand can just get rid of space, maybe even somehow make a sphere around himself that just deletes it, hell he might even be able to create a black hole with the descrepencies he causes by removing space from existence
I love Okuyasu's theme. So well made
I think a pretty cool requiem idea for the hand is for it to erase any potential future where okuyasu is placed in a difficult situation only allowing the future in which okuyasu is fine.
So GER with extra steps?
@@woomyboy98 its more like okuyasu being abnormally lucky and having plot armor at all times, so like Hey Ya!
@@woomyboy98 i was thinking it would be more like erasing fate, so if okuyasu is fated to be affected negatively whether it be in a fight or an accident, The hand Requiem would ensure that it will never happen to okuyasu instead, the fate will be replaced by the best possible outcome. The thing that affects okuyasu doesn't necessarily have to hurt him it could be like him losing money, having hair loss, developing a disease and ect...
@@weaboii2961 So is it immune or a counter to WoU? Well depending on how you scale Clamity and Logic to this reqium.
One thing I think that Araki genuinely forgot about when he made the JoJo Veller statement about smart Okuyasu having no limits to what it can scrape away (erase). Is the fact that before Okuyasu met Josuke and the others. He and his brother Keicho were creating stand users with the stand arrow in the hopes they could find someone who could kill their father to put him out of his misery. Remember that Okuyasu's dad has Dio's flesh bud in his body, when Dio died their father transformed and mutated into a creature that couldn't die no matter what the brothers threw at him. That includes Okuyasu's The Hand.
Or Okuyasu, being Okuyasu, didn't want to kill his own father, despite what Keicho told him to do, and couldn't bring himself to do so.
@@theendersmirk5851 "Both" of the Nijimura brothers were looking for a stand user who could kill their father. Which means they both tried ending his misery themselves before they started looking for other people who could. Okuyasu obviously doesn't want his father to suffer, so he too would have tried his "hand" at doing so.
@@davefernandez4481 I don't think keicho would allow that okayasu would be probably trumatized
@@ididsomeunspeakablethingsa4899 Keicho ultimately cares about the family he has left, but he's not that sympathetic. He'd rather his father be put out of his misery than save Okuyasu the trauma of watching him die. Besides, both Keicho and Okuyasu wanted their father's misery to end.
He probably erased part of his body only for it to regrow. That's the only thing I can think of, unless the hand just bounced off
Go beyond is basically ranged okuyasu, so the thought of goofy ol okuyasu just deleting Wonder of U during his monologue is really funny
M eyes don’t shed tears but they ball when I’m thinking bout you
While yes, Okyasu is an idiot, I think the True underlying weakness of The Hand was the part it was written in, let me explain:
Part 4 is unique among its peers for its unique "redemption" approach to dealing with its minor antagonists. This comes into immediate opposition with the entire point of The Hand, immediate ahnilation.
Every protagonist stand in P4 either avoids causing egregious amounts of bodily harm to its victim or it has a way of undoing said harm, either by its own ability or the fact that Crazy Diamond is usually there to act as a safety net, allowing the Villan to be healed and then redeemed.
But the Hand... the Hand just kills people, and it can't even be undone by Crazy Diamond if they manage to survive.
So in order for this stand to even exist in its current capacity, and still keep the Redemption stories araki wanted to tell, The Hand HAD to be nerfed, so Araki chose to make its User a moron so he could still make use of The Hand, but provided an excuse as to why The Hand didn't just win every fight.
I agree Okuyasu has a dangerous stand it’s not dumb to not use it lethal
This video just... isn't right. I'm a fan of this channel, but this isn't a "Creative things a smart Okuyasu could do" video, it is a "What if we make Okuyasu OP and ignore his canon feats" video which feels sort of pointless. Yes, if Jotaro didn't have a time limit to timestop, he'd be quite strong.
The "No Limit" is in terms of what CAN BE ERASED, but there ARE limits. You've seen a single sentence from an interview and decided to ignore the rest of the Manga.
It must be in the scrape radius, so it can't be larger than the size of the scrape. It could potentially scrape away Tusk Act 4's bullet because the *physical size of the nail* is smaller than the maximum size of what can be erased. If it's too big (Such as a 5ft wide wall) then The Hand only scrapes away and brings together PART of the wall. The whole wall isn't erased on contact. The Love train example is interesting, but ultimately it would depend on IF the barrier was a single, solid object or if it was a constant stream. If it's a constant stream then sure it can be scraped away... but the gap will be closed instantly.
The thing it's scraping must be physical. Space exists. There is indeed distance between one object and another. Time however couldn't be scraped away. Time is a concept, and is affected by Gravity and stuff, but unless Okuyasu is erasing a very small object with significant gravitational pull, that's a no. speaking of, Gravity couldn't be scraped away either. You could scrape away Light, but by the time he's finished scraping it, more light would have entered the space the erased light would be in. Okuyasu can only affect that which he can TOUCH with his stand's RIGHT HAND.
His teleportation wouldn't be instant. We can see this in the RHCP fight where he scrapes... and RHCP dodges out the way, which causes Okuyasu to teleport behind RCHP. This means that there is indeed time between scrapes, otherwise how did RHCP dodge? RHCP even states this directly. "But... the Hand's Swiping motion... It can't possibly match RHCP's superior speed! You're way too slow!"
Further, we know that the teleportation isn't instant because he must finish the scrape, and then there's a small delay before space is warped. See, the Josuke fight where Josuke has time to duck under the plant pots. If it was instaneous, then surely the plant plots would have flown straight away? it's fast, but not instant.
And finally. No. Okuyasu cannot keep up with Made In Heaven's speed. Okuyasu isn't increasing his acceleration in anyway, he's erasing space and pulling himself through the erased space, so he's still limited by his Stand's scrape time. RHCP is slower than MiH Pucci, since the characters had no real issue keeping track of RHCP with their eyes unlike Pucci.
TL;DR Like the channel, not a fan of this video.
I have also thought about the idea of Okuyasu being insanely op if he was super smart. so glad to find this vid about it
I just recognized that he can turn anything into a nuke by deleting oh I dunno something in the atoms to cause an insane instability only possible in particle accelerators
Metas I made a bites the dust ability for the hand call the hands true weight as a reference to the weight a song by the band. His new ability would change the weight of things or people by touching them and so he could make stuff fly super fast when he swipes reality away. I want to know what you think of it
Pretty cool !
An Requiem Arrow grants its user an ability they desire the most when used, and Okuyasu would probably need an other ability, but the concept is really great.
Good job that actually sounds like a pretty interesting ability.
9:39 Not necessarely: the Range of Okuyasu's erasure is still quite limited, so the Light Barrier would probably just close on itself and not much would be accomplished;
9:59 No because, while the teleportation would theoretically be faster, the act of Okuyasu raising and performing the technique would still be slower than Pucci's movements, thus the latter could get out of range or just anticipate Okuyasu by attacking him first;
10:13 GER can *literally* revert the action of time itself being erased, while time didn't thecnically exist anymore due to Diavolo beginning his attack in erased time. I don't see why GER wouldn't be capable of reverting Okuyasu's space-erasing ability. Additionally, using the "Araki said it's invincible" logic, GER itself is stated to trascend the conventional limits of Stands, with all of its stats being "NULL", and supposedly even Giorno himself doesn't know what it's capable of.
Space isn't really an abstract concept - it's a bit difficult to grasp fully given the way we normally interact with it, but it is something that physically exists in the universe. A better example would be the fact that Okuyasu can erase written letters, including the space that should be left in the words, causing them to contract. (That is to say, he wasn't just erasing the physical pigments used to write the characters.) If The Hand really does not have any limitations on it's ability to erase things and is even able to destroy abstract concepts, then Okuyasu should theoretically have the ability to straight up alter reality. He could erase someone's memories, identity or emotions, cause a color to stop existing (at least locally), cure his father by removing Dio's influence from his body, make someone immortal by _erasing the concept of death,_ or raise the dead by erasing the fact that they died, etc. He may even be able to restore anything he erases by erasing the past and making it so he never did it in the first place.
Rohan writes on him
"I'm smart"
cant believe that za hando : requiem has the ability to create things anywhere his stand's right hand is! he even managed to change find into found! 0:11
I wanna say that balancing powers with personality is BRILLIANT. As this video shows, ZA HANDO would be busted but okuyasu himself is the nerf.
Evolution I'd imagine would be like hand grabber dude from jujutsu kaisen, being able to touch everything with his right hand
I think Okuyasu is smarter than me… since I wouldn’t think about deleting the SPACE IN FRONT OF ME TO TRAVEL
Since it has no limit it could even possibly delete things like perception, stand abilities and even stands(or even their opponent's ability to damage him)
i like how the hand is just like soft and wet but like... so much more powerful
that is if he can erase abstract things other than space
Its the melee close quarters version of SW
Do you have a video on power scaling and the terminology? It's interesting to hear all the funny made up words like MFTL+ and AP but I'm Okuyasu-brained and could use a guide.
The perfect video to stumble across at 3am.
Immediately drops everything and ascends to the vid.
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If he was a smart character that would effect what kind of stand he has as stands reflect their users. So it’s hard to tell if his stand would still be able to do what it does if that were the case.
I think the hand is busted because it works how much the user understands what's he's erasing. If User can understand fate, curses or calamities on basic level I think he can erase it. Only point being he has to understand what it is.
One thing that keeps coming to mind with the "What if Okuyasu was smarter?" Question is lethality. Like yeah The Hand is INCREDIBLY deadly and there's not really a reason why he he didn't kill Kira or RHCP other then he just wasn't that bright. But like...he's a teenager, most of the fights he gets in he isn't trying to go for the kill. Yeah there's a LOT more he could do but imo the most powerful part of the hand is just erasing the opponent which...Okuyasu probably isn't trying to do. Yeah he should just teleport his foes to him/erase their had but other then beating their ass he doesn't really have a nonlethal win state. Idk maybe I'm not smart enough for The Hand either 😅