The FAILURE to Map Britain's Coast

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  • @pwhitewick
    @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +5

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    • @waynekerrgoodstyle
      @waynekerrgoodstyle Місяць тому

      E-bikes with a throttle can be legal in the UK, but they are subject to different rules. If the e-bicycle can be powered by the throttle alone without pedaling, it's classified similarly to a moped or motorcycle. You will require a licence, a helmet, registration, and insurance for an electric bike. Throttle-assisted e-bikes that conform to EAPC regulations are allowed.
      So, can the e-bike be powered by the throttle alone without pedaling?

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +2

      @@waynekerrgoodstyle as you suggest with certain factors it is legal and remains a bike. With Himiway it lasts for a set period and only goes to 3.6 mph. Thus remains legal.

    • @waynekerrgoodstyle
      @waynekerrgoodstyle Місяць тому +1

      @@pwhitewick That's good to know 👍

    • @sianwarwick633
      @sianwarwick633 Місяць тому +2

      Since bus fares are going up in my city... this may be the answer

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      @@sianwarwick633 honestly a joy to ride.

  • @helenswan705
    @helenswan705 Місяць тому +32

    usually I hate sponsor breaks but this is a good one!! and this map history is stunning. What people there were!!

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      Thanks Helen.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Місяць тому +2

      I was thinking "nice bike" before I knew it was a sponsor segment. That's the way to do it! :)

  • @paul.Darling
    @paul.Darling Місяць тому +14

    Thank you Paul, another one to add to the "faves" folder😁
    Thank you also for all your hard work in bringing us such diverse information.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks Paul, appreciated.

  • @paulinehedges5088
    @paulinehedges5088 Місяць тому +8

    Paul you have done it again! Another fascinating and informative video about a new suject..plus the bike!
    Great viewing. Thanks as always
    😊😊😊😊

  • @kernowboy137
    @kernowboy137 Місяць тому +5

    The Cotton MS Tiberius map dated 1025-50 is notable because it seems to show two figures fighting in the Southwest of England, a possible reference to the conflict between the West Saxons and the Britons of the peninsula.

  • @patchso
    @patchso Місяць тому +8

    Your videos just keep getting better and better. Looking forward to the follow on about the Ordnance Survey.
    Bike looks cool btw - that’s the way to do ads.

  • @MrGreatplum
    @MrGreatplum Місяць тому +2

    Very enjoyable, Paul. When I was at uni, we had a whole module on cartography and the university had its own map library! This is bringing back quite a lot of memories!

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +3

      I NEEEEED a Map Library

  • @malcolmrichardson3881
    @malcolmrichardson3881 Місяць тому +7

    Very interesting account - which might indicate how ancient religious or philosophical ideas about the Earth and the Heavens were initially combined with, and then gradually replaced by more accurate representations based upon direct observation and scientific understanding. It's a fascinating story - with many gaps in our knowledge - but I think you tell it with real intelligence and interest. Thank you.

  • @lostsierraforrest5542
    @lostsierraforrest5542 Місяць тому +17

    I've been enjoying your videos on British history, but as with almost all videos I watch I'll skip the commercial, thank you. Except this time I didn't. That's because I just recently bought my own e-bike, different brand than yours but very similar style, e.g. full suspension, fat tire, heavy duty. I love it. I'm here in the States, California, up in the northern Sierra Nevada mountains, and this bike has changed my life. I'm seventy, don't drive, but now I've got a much fuller liberation for pursuing my hobby of bird photography.
    So thanks, Paul, keep up your historical education efforts, and with the ground you cover (in the same way that I like to get out and around) that bike ought to do for you.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      No offence at all taken if anyone skips an idea... it is what it is. But agreed... man these bikes are GOOD

    • @patchso
      @patchso Місяць тому +6

      I too don’t really enjoy adds, but we have to bear in mind that’s how the content creators make their money. We get the quality entertainment for free.

    • @1aapmens
      @1aapmens Місяць тому +1

      @@patchso oddly enough I pay €13,99 per month to messrs Page and Brin, allegedly to be distributed fairly amongst creators, to stay add-free.

    • @lostsierraforrest5542
      @lostsierraforrest5542 Місяць тому

      @@1aapmens And I consider having to pay (beyond the Ad Remover I already have) to go ad-free nothing but extortion. YOU WILL PAYPAYPAY EITHER WAY; WOULDN'T WANT SOMETHING BAD TO HAPPEN TO YA, NOW WOULD WE?

  • @smallsleepyrascalcat
    @smallsleepyrascalcat Місяць тому +12

    Excellent historical overview. I had no idea they cartographed so early. In a way.
    And you are excused for your pronounciation of Waldseemüller.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      How do you pronounce it!????

    • @jonathanrichards593
      @jonathanrichards593 Місяць тому

      @@pwhitewick Something like VALD-ZAY-MEWLUR, although 'EW' isn't really accurate for ü.
      I'm happy to be corrected!

  • @williamthompson2941
    @williamthompson2941 Місяць тому +1

    humm, think its time to THANK Rebecca. Thanks for letting the old man entertain and inform us all, Rebecca.

  • @eh1702
    @eh1702 Місяць тому +11

    You make very high quality videos. And not dumbed down like we see a lot on TV now.
    Ancient people, well before Eratosthenes, had worked out that Earth is not just a sphere, but an oblate sphere. Maybe the whole “world is flat” thing started with people seeing it represented flat, on maps, and just took it too literally. Or it got garbled in Chinese-whisper descriptions.
    Like when peasant farmers or herders encountered Hindus or Greeks doing maths, and morphed it (or snake oil salesmen morphed it) into “numerology”.
    You see the very same thing today with science being morphed into quasi-science and pseudo-medicine. Like quartz crystals. “Oh, look, quartz crystals - if you zap them with electricity, they vibrate so regularly you can literally set your watch by them!” Becomes, “Feel the mysterious intangible vibrations of this very expensive Healing Crystal.”

    • @hidden6ix742
      @hidden6ix742 Місяць тому +1

      or Pratchett.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Місяць тому

      It's not peasants who mess these things up, it's scholars themselves. Few are as good as Eratosthenes, but many were and are proud and think more of their reasoning than they should. Look at English spelling where some of our silent letters have never been pronounced and have no reason to be there, but some language scholars decided they should be there, argued for them, and now we have them. No reason but some scholars who made themselves sound cleverer than they really were.

    • @howardchambers9679
      @howardchambers9679 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@eekee6034 sykology innit

    • @buzzardist1659
      @buzzardist1659 Місяць тому

      The "world is flat" thing was mostly an invention of the 19th-century Enlightenment. People felt compelled to represent themselves as progressively superior than all people who came before them. One way to do that was to create this false belief about ancient people. "Yeah, Romans had heating and plumbing and all that, but they were still ignorant!" Were there some people who believed that the world was flat? Probably. There are today, after all. Did any sailors, long-distance traders, or serious scholars regard the world as flat? Not many. We have far more people treating the world as a globe, estimating its circumference, and whatnot. It's a challenge to find records of ancient people who actually claim a flat earth.
      Consider this: A geocentric model of the universe was common up until the 1500s and 1600s in Europe. How did illustrations of this model portray the Earth? It was a globe. When drawn as a map of the Earth, it was frequently a circle, centered on the North Pole, with the continents spreading out around it. Known lands in African and Asia spilled off the edge of the circle, which shows plainly that this is a flat representation of a sphere. It's virtually impossible to claim simultaneously that ancients held to the Ptolemaic model of the universe while also believing that the world is flat. The claims are mutually incompatible.

    • @eekee6034
      @eekee6034 Місяць тому

      @@howardchambers9679 I'm not sure what you're getting at. I probably shouldn't have said "it's not peasants", certainly when authorities are evidently wrong, then everyday people will make up their own minds independently. However, look at the recently-exposed salt debacle; research and even peer review without a thought for what the data might mean. When I was younger, so much health science was of this nature; "X appears with Y, therefore Y causes X." What absolute rubbish! In some cases, I had evidence from my own body that the opposite was true. If science in recent years has been so bad, how much more so in ancient times?

  • @davidberlanny3308
    @davidberlanny3308 Місяць тому +2

    Hi Paul, very interesting, I'm really amazed that there was a map of Britain so far back and that it took till the arrival of the OS to get the job done properly.
    Looks like a great bike. You're gradually morphing into Adam Hart-Davies!!
    Love a good map story!!
    All the best!!

  • @robinhillyard6187
    @robinhillyard6187 Місяць тому +2

    Excellent. One of your best. But I am still wondering about the hill fort!

  • @janebaxter841
    @janebaxter841 2 дні тому

    Yes you nailed the advising I actually listened to it, usually I scroll on by. Great vid.👌

  • @edwards9557
    @edwards9557 Місяць тому

    Another interesting post, thank you for both the posting and the large amount of research you must do to support each one. Pythias and the fragments of his book that have been preserved has always fascinated me, it’s tantalising glimpse of 4th century BCE Britain and also, being from Thanet in Kent, the fact that he tells us he “rounded the corner of Kantion” the first record of Kent as a name and obviously referring to passing (probably landing) in Thanet. Interesting research going on by the way, Punic place name origins in Britain and Ireland, Thanet is a possibility. All the best and keep them coming.

  • @harrypembro1646
    @harrypembro1646 Місяць тому +2

    Loving the increased production quality with this one!

  • @shirleylynch7529
    @shirleylynch7529 Місяць тому +1

    Great bike. Excellent and enthusiastic video. Some lengths those maps are. Well explained. Thank you Paul for all your research.

  • @catlady356
    @catlady356 Місяць тому

    Great video, Paul! I've always been fascinated by maps.
    Being Dutch I have a Gazelle ebike. After 20 years of hardly being able to cycle because of knee problems, I now have my freedom back. So I totally understand your enthusiasm for your new ebike. I hope it give you lots of pleasure, as mine is giving me.

    • @Funkyboozer
      @Funkyboozer Місяць тому +1

      You’ll love Map Men with Jay Foreman

  • @TalesOfWar
    @TalesOfWar Місяць тому +11

    Fun fact. The Earth is actually, technically but not quite 40,000km. The guy doing the calculations got one of his sums wrong which lead to the 40,075km number, then corrected it, but it was only noticed after it had been announced so the correction didn't make it. They ever so slightly changed the length of the metre for it to work out. I might be misremembering it slightly but that's the gist!

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +3

      Fair. I just.... googled it.

    • @rogink
      @rogink Місяць тому

      I thought the 40,000km came from the distance north to south pole, which is how the length of a kilometre was determined. It was around the time of Napoleon, but no idea what his input was.

    • @TalesOfWar
      @TalesOfWar Місяць тому +1

      @@rogink Look up the history of the metric system, it's rather fascinating.

    • @jonathanrichards593
      @jonathanrichards593 Місяць тому +2

      @@rogink The distance from the North Pole to the Equator, on a line running through Paris (the "Paris meridian") was defined to be ten million metres, i.e. ten thousand kilometres. But the measurements were not sufficiently precise, hence the modern measurement does not come out to be the Earth being exactly forty thousand km round. Good enough for government work 📏🌎

  • @TWSmith42
    @TWSmith42 Місяць тому

    Thanks for the recommendation on the bike. I might check it out. Also, I enjoy your vlogs, so please keep up the good work.

  • @TheOjnop
    @TheOjnop Місяць тому

    Really excellent video-in my view some of the best content on UA-cam.

  • @frankgulla2335
    @frankgulla2335 Місяць тому

    Thank you, Paul, for a peek into the world of old maps.

  • @MrMattsmith1985
    @MrMattsmith1985 Місяць тому +2

    Great video again Paul,love it

  • @markt.3685
    @markt.3685 Місяць тому

    had occasionally seen your videos, although enjoyed this video quite a bit, and subscribed accordingly. Thanks for all the info on the maps, much appreciated!😎👍

  • @andrewlamb8055
    @andrewlamb8055 Місяць тому

    Cracking episode again Paul … you and Rebecca are wonderful hosts …. More please X ⚔️⚔️😎⭐️👏🍻

  • @AllotmentFox
    @AllotmentFox Місяць тому +1

    It’s actually quite nice seeing your landscape subject while going 10-20 mph, it complements your story surprisingly well. The gathering of tin in one place before export is a very revealing nugget of information. Are we seeing royal control of an entire industry, an export guild controlling trade, or only one market place where the Gauls can buy tin before transporting it themselves? How can we find out?

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      Cheers Tom. The Bike helps when I am trying to cover... a route or a few things in one day for sure. For me this really helps expain why so many hillforts were seemingly unoccupied in a dwelling sense. Protection of a resource or type of industry becomes a little clearer. I think if we knew the location of Ictus this would help hugely, but without any evidence of the physical storage of the worked tin, we have nothing by the writing of those that documented Pytheas and his exploration. Fascinating stuff.

  • @davie941
    @davie941 Місяць тому +2

    thank you again Paul , very enjoyable and interesting , well done and thank you 😊

  • @britishlongbarrows
    @britishlongbarrows Місяць тому +1

    Nice work - will be interesting to see how this all turns out :)

  • @simonjones7785
    @simonjones7785 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks super interesting

  • @katesonanadventure
    @katesonanadventure Місяць тому +2

    17:13 is that Lepe? A friend of mine project managed the visitor centre. Gorgeous place!

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      Yuuuup. Kind of at the end of my finger....

  • @More-Space-In-Ear
    @More-Space-In-Ear Місяць тому +2

    Noticed quite a few places you travelled Paul, New Forest is beautiful to ride in as is to Lepe and Calshot. Regarding Himiway bike, also another beautiful item.

  • @hedleythorne
    @hedleythorne Місяць тому +1

    Great video as usual Paul!

  • @ClearlyPixelated
    @ClearlyPixelated Місяць тому +3

    2:31 this channel would benefit from more sausage dog cameos! ❤❤❤

  • @janicebrinleycodd5801
    @janicebrinleycodd5801 Місяць тому

    Brilliant as always ❤
    Amazing to think that the guy in Alexandria 1000’s of years ago got it so right 🎉

  • @KeithPrince-cp3me
    @KeithPrince-cp3me Місяць тому +1

    The dimension of the Earth made by the Greek chap was more accurate than that in the time of Columbus which was reckoned to be much smaller hence why Columbus thought he'd reached India in fact had the Americas not been there he wouldn't have had enough supplies to circumnavigate the Earth. As for Pythias of Masalia my understanding was he was trying to find the source of tin, important for making Bronze, and the Carthaginians jealously guarded the source of the tin, which was clearly Britain. This would explain the burials in Britain from the Bronze and Iron ages that chemical and isotopic analysis of bones and teeth show that the people interred had been born and grown up in North Africa where Carthage was located.

  • @ruthcherry3177
    @ruthcherry3177 Місяць тому +2

    Interesting and inspirational! Thank you.

  • @charlesachurch7265
    @charlesachurch7265 Місяць тому +3

    Another great presentation Thanks xxx

  • @UnEquip-VR
    @UnEquip-VR Місяць тому +4

    Another Absolute banger

  • @steadynumber1
    @steadynumber1 Місяць тому +4

    I'd seen a documentary on the amazing feat of Eratosthenes before. What a wheel he was, but I'm guessing even he would have an uphill struggle trying to persuade a Flat Earther that the Earth is a globe. As is written, "there's none so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE."
    I'm sorry, I've just got to sing it : A Himiway, a Himiway, a Himiway, a Himiway. In the jungle, the mighty jungle the lion sleeps tonight. 😂👍

  • @shaunlaverick5793
    @shaunlaverick5793 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent video.😀👍

  • @rdstedall
    @rdstedall Місяць тому

    yet another fascinating video - keep up the good work!
    Just one comment / query... as far as I know the Isle of Sheppey has always been Sheppey. Queenborough is a town on the island on the west side of the island in which was located for a while a royal castle (see the Time Team episode where they dug it up).
    Looking forward to the next video :-)

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      Ah, in that case maybe it referred to the town name on the map? 1366 the town was granted a charter. Cheers

  • @WC21UKProductionsLtd
    @WC21UKProductionsLtd Місяць тому

    I didn’t know there was such an early map and really interesting to get those notes on what Iron Age Britain was like. Feel a bit sorry for Scotland - I guess its coastline is quite complicated. Enjoyed this a lot.

  • @WildwoodTV
    @WildwoodTV Місяць тому

    reminds me of the (lost) Illustrated Atlas found under floorboards at home with Dante's Inferno & 2 other ancient books - taken to a local book-binder (Adnitt & Nauton, Shrewsbury) never to be seen again...

  • @GS-lu2zu
    @GS-lu2zu Місяць тому +1

    9:40 Doesn't matter how many times you watch, I can't be the only one here who doesn't want Paul to just stay left and go over the bridge.
    Am sure many of us here want to see Paul go right instead and through the water with legs up 😂

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      Haha.... did consider it.....

  • @stephendavies6949
    @stephendavies6949 Місяць тому +1

    A very interesting video to watch whilst having lunch today.
    I seem to recall reading somewhere that, despite all our scientific knowledge, there are more people that believe (or at least say they believe) the earth is flat today than at any other time in history. Bizarre!

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      Madness

    • @stephendavies6949
      @stephendavies6949 Місяць тому +2

      @pwhitewick A bit like the discourse in the comments regarding the nationality of King Arthur, who is as historical a figure as Coca Cola's Santa Claus. And that's coming from a Welshman!

  • @heatherdewhurst8382
    @heatherdewhurst8382 Місяць тому

    Thank you for another fascinating video, maps are so interesting. Are you cycling the Meon Valley trail in this one?

  • @keithwilson1554
    @keithwilson1554 Місяць тому +2

    The Bike makers may have missed an opportunity. The could have labelled it the Wimoweh ( Wimoway Bike) and used the Lions sleeps Tonight song for Advertising.

  • @christina3521
    @christina3521 Місяць тому +1

    Take care, there have been a few fatal fires with charging lithium batteries on E bikes. Not sure how to do safety checks, but others may.

  • @Sim0nTrains
    @Sim0nTrains Місяць тому

    That does look a good bike. Great video but feels like people were making half arsed jobs at drawing Britain at the time while some made a good effort

  • @radiosnail
    @radiosnail Місяць тому

    Interesting as always

  • @davefrench3608
    @davefrench3608 Місяць тому

    Nice to see you down my way on the Waterside.

  • @LooseGooseFarm
    @LooseGooseFarm Місяць тому +1

    Paul...brilliant video, just one thing it's Chesil Beach not chisel.

  • @catfury360
    @catfury360 Місяць тому +1

    Brythonic + Picts= Prittanic/Brittanic ! Possible . i like where you're going with this channel. Excellent videos. Thank you, (interesting they are called Fairy Forts in Ireland } Love maps! Matbe show more ordinance maps with national monuments , forts on them etc. Seems like England has more well preserved sites than ireland.? Placenames are really interesting!

  • @jointgib
    @jointgib Місяць тому +1

    ebikes are great for trying out distant pubs

  • @GuitarGuyATX
    @GuitarGuyATX Місяць тому

    Amazing that he was so close to the exact circumstance !

  • @whiteshadow8520
    @whiteshadow8520 Місяць тому

    15:00 what’s the large island east of Scotland?

  • @pluggedinpete
    @pluggedinpete Місяць тому

    history, mapping and flat earth debunking in the same video! chapeau Paul, chapeau

  • @georgebodley8068
    @georgebodley8068 Місяць тому +2

    The Island of Prydain,Was called Surry (Pronounced SIRRY ) i believe By the Old Assyrians which also came here,They're said to be recorded as being on this island by one of the English kings as the Ayelda sisenna which was said to be recorded As a list of Tribes which entered the now uk for one of the English Kings sons as a wedding Gift ,Not sure if the spelling is correct.

    • @michaelschudlak-l3l
      @michaelschudlak-l3l Місяць тому

      when did you learn this? id like to find out more..

    • @georgebodley8068
      @georgebodley8068 Місяць тому

      @@michaelschudlak-l3l Google Alan wilson historian ,there are several videos showing him speaking at events as well as many videos of him and Anthony Blackett researching the history of the Khumri and the Britons ,Alan wilson did approx 40years or more research ,its worth a look .

  • @hardyakka6200
    @hardyakka6200 Місяць тому +1

    I had it told to me in a documentary that it was treasonus to make accurate maps of Britain at one stage in case it enabled some foreign army the means with which to defeat the defenders.

  • @infidelcastro5129
    @infidelcastro5129 Місяць тому +8

    I’m hoping the flat earthers don’t swamp the comments 😂
    But I suppose it’d help the algorithm… 😊

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +4

      Bring um!!!

    • @patchso
      @patchso Місяць тому +3

      Eratosthenes. Flat earther’s kryptonite ;-)

    • @MrGreatplum
      @MrGreatplum Місяць тому

      I found one!

  • @hainanbob6144
    @hainanbob6144 Місяць тому

    Ah, I must go down to the sea again, to the lonely sea and the sky, and draw an outline of the shore, just like they did in days of yore. Great video. PS Nice bike, unfortunately not available in China. We have different ones.

  • @danielmalinen6337
    @danielmalinen6337 Місяць тому

    An Iron Age map of the British Isles resembles Hybrasil. Maybe Hybrasil got its start from the incident that it was a doodle depicting the distorted shape of the old map. Or maybe Hybrasil was just a stain that was misinterpreted as an island.

  • @hidden6ix742
    @hidden6ix742 Місяць тому +1

    i feel you are Shads english doppolganga and love your video's.

  • @phillipdominey
    @phillipdominey Місяць тому +3

    Are those bikes road legal in UK?

  • @Jimyjames73
    @Jimyjames73 Місяць тому +1

    Oh Dear - but I like the Bike thou - looks pretty C😎😎L 🙂🚂🚂🚂

  • @robertdonaldson6584
    @robertdonaldson6584 Місяць тому

    I am fiddling "Swinging on a Gate" on my Violin.
    Hello from rocky coast of Maine, US November 18, 2024.

  • @raedwulf61
    @raedwulf61 Місяць тому

    Interesting video. I love ancient maps! But, "Pyethus?" "Britian?"

  • @hikkespett
    @hikkespett Місяць тому +38

    'Posted 33 seconds ago'. I've never been more tempted to write "first", but I ain't gonna do that.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +5

      😆

    • @AnotherLostBall
      @AnotherLostBall Місяць тому +4

      Thank you for not writing “first”. 🙏

    • @JBezza
      @JBezza Місяць тому +6

      But you did

    • @dghdavies
      @dghdavies Місяць тому +1

      Doesn't make you a bad person

    • @bobroberts6155
      @bobroberts6155 Місяць тому +3

      You nearly avoided looking a pillock but then went and ruined it.

  • @Nick-13
    @Nick-13 Місяць тому

    Fascinating Paul, but it is Queenborough, not Queensborough !! (seems wrong and it should be Queensborough !) Impressive bike
    Does Rebecca have a bike too ?

  • @alejandrayalanbowman367
    @alejandrayalanbowman367 Місяць тому +1

    Very interesting as always. How is Rebecca????

  • @RichardFelstead1949
    @RichardFelstead1949 Місяць тому +1

    Thanks Paul (and Rebecca) now on ya bike.lol

  • @mikedude5843
    @mikedude5843 Місяць тому +1

    don't forget the Tabula Peutingeriana got an update from konrad Miller in 1888, might want to extend your long map😂

  • @jimfairgray4607
    @jimfairgray4607 Місяць тому

    There is evidence that the Babylonians knew the earth was spherical and could comprehend it as orange segments as early as the 7th century BC. North to South cartography was quite accurate as they knew the stars ascended in the heavens the further north one went, and the midday sun was higher or lower depending on latitude. Quite mind blowing what they had figured out. East to west took another 2400 years to nail down!

  • @ClearLight1967
    @ClearLight1967 Місяць тому +3

    Interesting vid, my only niggle is your pronunciation of Pytheas, it's Pith-ee-as. noy Pie-ee-thus, you got the vowels mixed up a bit.

  • @ethelmini
    @ethelmini Місяць тому

    14:20 I care that East is at the top. It suggests that religious dogma was more important than astrological observation or magnetism. East was the direction of the Resurrection.
    Pilgrimage routes you say - colour me surprised.

  • @raphaelnikolaus0486
    @raphaelnikolaus0486 Місяць тому

    What an endeavor!

  • @hattyburrow716
    @hattyburrow716 Місяць тому

    Great stufff

  • @zGJungle
    @zGJungle Місяць тому +1

    That email recieved buzz on your phone made me jump.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      Me too!

    • @patchso
      @patchso Місяць тому +1

      That definitely happened as he was making the video ;-)

  • @patricka.crawley6572
    @patricka.crawley6572 Місяць тому +1

    Britannica Iērne' and
    Britannica Alba
    we're the earliest (Greek) names for the two largest islands.
    The Irish, Picts and other tribes lived on the two large British islands. They are the original British.
    You can find the original maps on the internet.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      Thanks, earlier then 300 BC?

    • @AllotmentFox
      @AllotmentFox Місяць тому +1

      Why have you missed off the Welsh or is that under “other tribes”?

    • @patricka.crawley6572
      @patricka.crawley6572 Місяць тому

      @@AllotmentFox i missed off dozens of tribes. The Welsh are the most British of all the peoples of these islands so they should be top of the list.

    • @GeorgeBodley-hs1ss
      @GeorgeBodley-hs1ss Місяць тому

      According to two historians the original inhabitants ,likely our forebears from earlier migrations date as far back as the ice age ,we know there were wooden house posts found in mid wales dating back roughly that time ,also recently reported an artifact found in Cornwall dated some four thousand years ,we have a somewhat flattened mound dated four thousand years locally ,tie that in with the post holes found at the stone henge site dating from three thousand years to seven and half thousand years make it likely our forebears been here a long time ,and there were more migrations than thought to these island and beyond ,I won't expand on that as it's only a theory supported by probable evidence ,it seems the Academics have got time lines wrong .

    • @AllotmentFox
      @AllotmentFox Місяць тому

      @ the DNA shows they (mostly) didn’t make it into the Bronze Age. Descendants of steppe nomads (I think the ancesors of the Welsh, but not everyone agrees with that) come in during that period and whether or not they are the cause of the decimation there is a big break with the past.

  • @S-T-E-V-E
    @S-T-E-V-E Місяць тому +1

    Those tyres on that Electric Bike look like the old Grifter Bike tyres from the 80's!

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      YES... feel like it too

  • @vibingwithvinyl
    @vibingwithvinyl Місяць тому +3

    There's a typo on the title.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +10

      No clue what you mean. (Totally did not edit the title 10 second is ago 😬😬😬)

    • @Scottie444
      @Scottie444 Місяць тому +1

      😊

    • @richardletaw4068
      @richardletaw4068 Місяць тому

      ⁠​⁠@@pwhitewick LOLOL. TOTALLY was not going to make the same comment 10 seconds ago!!

    • @davie941
      @davie941 Місяць тому

      dont care tbh

    • @richardletaw4068
      @richardletaw4068 Місяць тому +2

      @@davie941 Your disinterest in historical accuracy is noted.

  • @SeverusFelix
    @SeverusFelix Місяць тому

    "Failed invasion"
    Caesar is still famous for invading Britain before any other Roman or Greek. Mission Accomplished.

  • @Greek2me.
    @Greek2me. Місяць тому +1

    Paul: you may wish to edit the title page "...Britian's..."

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      Done. I think i changed this at publication but it doesn't always register.

    • @gordonrichardson2972
      @gordonrichardson2972 Місяць тому +1

      Do you mean the one at 01:39?

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      @@gordonrichardson2972 or the one at 6.19... eeeek.

  • @DavidNewmanDr
    @DavidNewmanDr Місяць тому +3

    If only you had done this video together with the Map Men. They could do jokes about the different maps, cutting away to you in the field.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      I'm always game

    • @jointgib
      @jointgib Місяць тому +2

      count me as a fan of both channels

  • @HalfGodHalfBeast
    @HalfGodHalfBeast Місяць тому

    Ictus does sound like Vectis the old name for the isle of wight

  • @GeoffAdams-pj3ec
    @GeoffAdams-pj3ec Місяць тому

    Iktis was the greek name for the isle of wight says Wikipedia
    Just wondering where 6 days walk from tin mines in cornwall would get you to further east

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      The issue is we don't know where he landed initially. Its from the landing point that he suggested, 6 days sailing will land you on ictus. Could be many places!

  • @eekee6034
    @eekee6034 Місяць тому +1

    Did the Romans lie about the Britons' violence, or had a lot changed in 400 years? This was a trait which could change in single centuries later on; the 12th century was a very religious time, the 13th century very violent. The latter half of the 20th century also saw a big rise in violence. I'm not saying it was one or the other, but I think it could be either.

  • @PhilipMurphy8
    @PhilipMurphy8 Місяць тому +3

    I think you may need a better filter for bots

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +3

      I've deleted like... 30!?

  • @K1W1fly
    @K1W1fly Місяць тому +1

    As a New Zealander, I would just say, at least Britain does appear in maps - unlike NZ!

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому +1

      Haha... yes. You did seem to take a long time to become part of the "known world".

  • @jayceperlmutter4317
    @jayceperlmutter4317 Місяць тому

    at 11:40 you seem to bike right through some tree twigs -

  • @lindsayheyes925
    @lindsayheyes925 Місяць тому +1

    Eratosthenes had a brain like a sieve...

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      He did?

    • @lindsayheyes925
      @lindsayheyes925 Місяць тому +1

      @pwhitewick Dad joke:
      "The Sieve of Eratosthenes" is the name given to his algorithm for finding prime numbers, acknowledging his invention. It is still one of the best ways to find all primes smaller than n when n is smaller than 10 million or so. Brainy chap, Eratosthenes.
      I didn't know about his cartography. Thanks.

  • @freeman5209
    @freeman5209 Місяць тому

    Regarding Eratosthenes, any flatty will tell you that if the sun is smaller and closer to earth, which they claim it is and can be shown using a sexton, then you will get the same results on a flat earth. If that is the case then it is wrong to say Eratosthenes calculations show the earth to be a globe. Also you can't use a globe for navigation by air and sea, which is a bit suspicious.

    • @UPTHETOWN
      @UPTHETOWN Місяць тому

      Suspicious? Or maybe just nonsense

    • @freeman5209
      @freeman5209 Місяць тому

      @@UPTHETOWN The globe is nonsense? Or the fact you can't navigate by air and sea using a globe? It's definitely a bit suspicious that pilots and sea captains use flat earth charts to navigate flat earth routes. A lot of pilots now claim the earth is flat, but what do they know, right?

  • @womble321
    @womble321 Місяць тому

    Im a bit puzzled about open access land. Trespass is no longer a crime so why not just go? The worse that can happen is you can be asked to leave.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      Yup. But we shouldn't have to trespass.

  • @DougieLawson
    @DougieLawson Місяць тому

    Why at 6:17 do you spell Britain as "Britian"?

  • @williamlloyd3769
    @williamlloyd3769 Місяць тому

    Have to wonder why hill forts were so numerous?

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      This helps us understand perhaps why

  • @colincampbell4261
    @colincampbell4261 Місяць тому +1

    Ebikes are great.

  • @hugorogers2973
    @hugorogers2973 Місяць тому

    have you stopoped doing train videos?

  • @harley419
    @harley419 Місяць тому

    Excellent video ; 0 Hi Rebeecq

  • @hollyingraham3980
    @hollyingraham3980 Місяць тому

    Let's include Pytheas =/= Pie-ee-thus. You never heard of Damon and Pytheas? Pih-they-as. Dang, I have to go away.

    • @pwhitewick
      @pwhitewick  Місяць тому

      See description. Yup we tried this in about 8 different ways.