@@Ptro1 yes, it’s a simple matter to turn up the governor. With 20” tires I do 25+ all day long on my fuel injected Drive PTV. One day I’d love to have a similar Drive 2 PTV.
I have a 2018 Ptv with a fold down windshield. The top half is only up if I get caught it the rain. I only smell the exhaust when I’m taking it out of the barn. I’m about a block from the clubhouse. By the time I get there everything is warmed up and there is no odor.
It’s the only and he’s full of bs and must sell gas golf carts wow like politics but he’s such a good salesman I can’t help but believe him instead of doing some research lmao
I have had my own golf car(s) for the last thirty five years, both gas and electric and enjoyed them both. This should be required reading for anyone considering buying a used golf car. Great video. I agree with every single thing you said.
We are seriously thinking about buying a Club gas powered golf cart. Do you have any comment on the motor reliability versus the Kawasaki engine that comes in an ezgo cart?
I have been doing my homework and came up with the same idea of what will work best for me at the cabin. I just purchased a EFI gasser today and picking it up on Monday.
Great video. Thank you so much for all the research and information. I have a plant nursery and we have used ez go for 20-30 years. This video has helped me decide that gas is the best choice for us. Now if I can find one… 😊
Thanks for the info....I am in the market for a golf cart to ride around the neighborhood. I was leaning towards gas and now I'm definitely getting gas and I'm getting a Yamaha PTV....Thanks for all the info on your channel. Great content.
This was a great video. You clearly explained and answered all questions that I had. I appreciate the cost estimates to put things in perspective. Thank you!
couple corrections, number one regen braking and the electric parking brake are 2 separate things. regen is for service braking and the electric motor brake is only to lock the cart in place, it does not do any braking when you push on the brake pedal. number 2 is that a gas cart will not always get the same range or performance over time. wear in the carb (not applicable to EFI models), primary and secondary clutch, cables adjustments, drive belt, valve adjustment etc can effect the fuel economy and performance. third thing is that although yes the motor brakes can fail on RXVs i see way more failures that cause the brakes to not function on regular cable operated brakes that cause rollaways. other than that, pretty spot on. we find most people around here have electric due to rules about not running gas carts in the areas that allow them. i personally prefer electrics and find them way more reliable.
Thanks for the comment! Sorry things got a little confusing with the brake issue, as you can tell I'm not a big RXV guy. I think as the Quietech's become more available there will start to be less areas that are electric only. I have already seen a ton of courses around here switch their fleets from electric to the Quietechs because they are quiet enough to keep everyone happy and the operating cost are so much lower for a gas fleet than an electric fleet. Thanks for watching!
@@PowerEquipmentMan no worries! RXVs are our bread and butter here, we love them! the yamaha dealer around here isnt huge and they also do toro equipment and much prefer that so i dont think in this area they will make a comeback
The ont thing not mentioned here is that if traveling with your cart. Lots of places have restrictions on gas carts, but electric carts are allowed everywhere. These restrictions usually apply to state parks and campgrounds. Be ware.
Something to consider is if you are transporting your cart to different locations Campgrounds, golf courses, retirement communities many now have banned gas powered carts. Also spend the extra money and buy the LifePO4 batteries they last for 15 to 20 years no maintenance, and you can run them to 0% and no damage occurs, compared to Lead Acid Batteries.
It depends on your location. We are in Kansas and there are no campgrounds, communities, or courses in the mid west that I have ever heard of that "banned" gas golf carts. Most of them prefer gas carts since they don't need any electricity to charge back up. Anywhere that did ban gas carts was probably because of the old noisy and smelly 2-stroke carts of the 80s. New 4-stoke and EFI carts aren't any different than driving a car. LifePO4 batteries lasting for 15 to 20 years is 100% false. Most of the lithium battery manufacturers are claiming that their batteries will last 8 to 12 years (vs the 3 to 5 years of a lead acid battery). And if you run your lithium to 0%, yes it won't hurt it, but you still have to tow it home! Thanks for watching!
Omgoodness you're awesome, very informative video!... I'm trying to modify a '93 gas club car I just purchased over the weekend... I'm gonna make a lot of modifications to make it street legal.... Your video answered a lot of questions for me... Thank You So Much Sir.
Another point on lithium batteries is they don't like to be stored at 100%. Storing lithium batteries above 80-90% causes them to gas off and swell which prematurely kills their life expectancy. So that's another consideration in comparing them to lead acid or AGM batteries.
Just as an FYI, in Arizona, 48 volt lead acid batteries only last about 4 years due to the heat being so hard on them. You have to water the batteries with distilled water about once a month. Wear only clothes you don't care about when you do it! Also, think about getting a rubberized pad for underneath your cart because if you miss, the water will go on your garage floor and discolor it. As of 2024, the cost to replace lead acid batteries in a EZGO golf cart is $1,800.
We use our carts for neighborhood and for my sons golf matches. Electric doesn’t cut it. Where we use it so much the batteries just don’t last. Just bought a gas Club Car and couldn’t be happier. No more worries on the golf course where we have ended up walking because the batteries went dead.
Love your videos! I just bought a 2018 Yamaha DR2 carb. I think I got a really good deal and can't wait to use your videos to go over it. Can you tell me what is the best gas to put in it?
Try to get NON ethanol fuel if you can. If you can't get that, they make some good fuel additives that you can use with ethanol fuel to help fight ethanol issues. Like this - amzn.to/37RtNVp Thanks for watching and enjoy your new ride!
The quality of Yamaha carts is leaps and bounds above easy go - gas or electric. It’s like comparing a BMW to a Chevy. They ride and drive more like a car than the other two big brands.
bmw is overpriced junk. not to mention the price for parts and insurance and repairs and maintenance. if you enjoy being ripped off then keep buying bmw
A few corrections I would like to make. Re: Electrics Lithium has definitely been tested and proven viable as a replacement to gas. They have been in vehicles (Full EV) since 2010. You can find those still running with original batteries 12 years later. Pro Grade tools have used them for about the same time. Mac Tools, Snap On , Dewalt etc etc If they weren’t meeting the grade, people would not be depending on them. Indy cars are going electric as are fleet delivery vehicles. Here are some of the benefits of Lithium that you either didn’t mention or glazed over a bit. Lithium batteries get 5000 cycles vs Lead Acids 500-1000 this means they will last 5x longer , not twice as long. Lithiums double your range for direct replacements. 70 miles on a charge. Lithium’s can be discharged down to 10-20% vs Lead acids 50-55% Lithium batteries offer full power for the duration of the cycle, unlike Lead which start losing performance as soon as they start discharging Lithiums weigh about 20% of a Lead acid which increases the speed of and the payload capacity of your Golf cart Lithiums do NOT have to be kept on a charger when not in use. It will not damage the battery like a lead acid will. Lithiums charge much much faster than lead acid Now on to advantages for electric in general . If you are taking it to campgrounds. Charging them is free at your site Many campgrounds don’t allow Gasser carts They make almost no noise You can overvolt and replace the controller of an electric golf cart to get that 30-40 mph. Very easy Electric golf carts have instant torque and reach max power output immediately where as gassers make power as they move through the rpm band. So, short burst spot hopping is faster Most of the other stuff you said is true, a Gasser where possible is still the better choice. But the disparity is not as large as you mentioned.
This video has been up for a year and you are the first person that has came up with any logical information for electric carts. Thank you! I do still have to disagree with you about lithium being "proven" specifically in the golf cart industry. Golf carts are very different from any other application. Golf carts have only been widely using lithium for less then 5 years. Sure there may have been a few people testing with them before that, but they have actually only been in production for less then 5 years. So all the people/companies saying that the lifespan of a lithium battery in a golf cart application is 10 to 12 years is purely guessing based on perfect conditions. It will be another 10 years before we have enough actual data to look at and determine how long they really last in 'real world' use. Maybe by then they will also be more affordable! I have no doubt that lithium batteries will be just like lead acid when it comes to "you get what you pay for". Cheap Chinese lithium batteries will most likely have a significantly shorter life cycle than higher quality, so it would be foolish for anyone to think that they can go buy any battery and it will last 10 plus years and they will be able to go 70 miles on a charge. Distance is directly related to speed, terrain, tire size, # of passengers, load, etc. Upgraded electrical parts to get more speed can get VERY expensive, and increased speed = less distance on a charge. As far as noise goes, the Quietech is still rated at only 1 decibel louder than an electric (doesn't matter if its lead acid or lithium). I personally would much rather hear the rumble from a gas engine than the whine of an electric motor. Thanks again, I really do appreciate all the good information! Thanks for watching
@@PowerEquipmentMan nice to talk to you. For evidence of Lithium soundness in Golf Carts (while I agree it’s not proven directly) They are more than proven in Scooters , High power tools and cars. At the end of the day an electric golf cart is the same as these because of their simplicity. Batteries-> Controller-> Electric Motor Also you can’t assume cheap. Could you use cheap parts, sure, but from a top level manufacturer I doubt that would happen. The downsides with crappy cells is they can explode. My main point is that the full story wasn’t quite told. You can look for guidance in the market. The top vehicle companies are all going Lithium. There’s a reason for that. Rivian GM Ford Tesla Apple Amazon UPS It’s impossible that all those folks are wrong
Both of you have shed serious light on this conversation. I bought my first ever last week and it's a 2013 Club Car DS electric. It has 2018 Trojan Hydro-link batteries 8 volt T-875. They're still running strong but nearing their advertised lifespan. I bought electric because my mind says it has less parts to go wrong, easy access for repairs, quicker repair time if needed, and as long as the batteries are charged, your chance of going from point A to B and back are more guaranteed without breaking down. There's arguments for both sides and they're valid. It really comes down to what makes you happier. And we all live with our choices. My only delima is choosing lithium or acid when the time comes. Based on data, lithium wins but not on price. 🤔
For the ones that don't want to stick around for 23 minutes. Heres a 11/2 minute rebuttal. First thing first. Everyone says electric is torquey but don't let that deceive you. Though they kick they are extraordinarily slow. They can be modified but since they are controlled Via ECU they can easily have speed limiters programed into them. Gas on the other hand require a transmission modification to do this. And just because gas carts are cheap. Doesn't mean the transmission is too Another misconception is that gas engines are hard to maintain and it's quite the opposite. Acid batteries are not only expensive they are Extremely Fucking Heavy. Just 1 12V is 64 lbs. And commonly with EV carts they have 4/5 which is about 370-410 lbs additionally added. Whilst most single-cylinders are around 170-200 lbs and can be lighter with light weight performance parts. Which also improve the performance of the engine Plus the design has been around for decades. There are so many super obtainable engines and parts for gas carts that cost half the price. And finally the biggest of them all is with a 6 gallon tank for a gas cart can last for months before refuel. And EV's need a refill everyday. Let that sink in.
I have a 2020 quiet tech drive 2. When it’s running you’d swear it’s battery, it isn’t loud at all. I’d rather a gas over battery any day. My cousin has battery can’t tell you how many times she ran out of juice when driving on the road
I have a 2018 Yamaha efi quiet tech cart. I enjoy your videos, adjusted the bolt on governor for more speed running about 18-19 mph which is perfect. I’m looking to lower my cart any suggestions. Thanks for your time.
I don't know of any place that makes a lower kit. I have seen one or two guys that were able to successfully lower theirs with lots of custom fabrication. Good luck! Here is one of them - facebook.com/SweitzersPerformanceCenter/
Newer 48 volt electric models have gel sealed batteries . (lithium is also an option, but super expensive ) No water and maintenance, Ever . Can last up to 7 years , Have a range of about 40 miles . Charge in about 7 hours . And modern ones have digital speedometers that show the charge level so no surprises..Sure , they don’t have the range of a gas but they are getting better .
Is it still possible to get a Yamaha quiet tech for that price these days? I see them a lot higher in the resale market now. Just curious if maybe I need to drive further out of the northeast Fl area I’m in.
Quietechs are great all around carts. Very few changes have been made since they were released in 2017. So any model year of Quietech from 2017 to now would be good. They did change the exhaust duct in 2020 and newer models, which may be beneficial to you if you are driving in dry grass.
We got a Yamaha QuietTech last august (2021 model) with everything but it costed way more than what you are saying, it was around 12k for everything included (seatbelts, mirrors, floor mats, upgraded light package, etc) is that just a higher upgrade than the prices you are mentioning?
The prices that I listed in this video for EZGO and Yamaha did not include the cost of any accessories. You can easily spend several thousand more dollars adding upgrades to suit your needs. Thanks for watching
Definitely going with QuieTech ... appreciate your comparison content .... although not quite your expertise .....I have a question - plan on traveling with my dog [golf cart community] and was wondering if you aware of carriers that were a goof fit behind front bucket seats? Just wondering - thanks
I have Drive 2 Elec. is there anything that i can do to stiffen up the Dash. when i hit expansion joints on the road or pot holes the dash shakes like its falling apart!
Have you looked to make sure that all the clips and screws are there that hold the dash in place. I have never heard of or seen that type of issue. You can watch this video to see what fasteners should be there - ua-cam.com/video/geVItk0RBOQ/v-deo.html
Gas powered cart batteries are maintenance free, meaning you don't check the water level in it like you do on electric carts. I did mention in the video that gas powered cart's battery will need to be replaced every 6 to 8 years. They usually last longer due to less load (only having to start the cart). So you don't do anything to it until it needs to be replaced.
@@PowerEquipmentMan is the gas efi with independent rear suspension worth waiting for? Or are they pretty rare to get your hands on from the lease returns? Is the drive 2 carb louder than the drive 2 efi? (2017 and newer?)
@@RaztechPowersports The Quietech with the independent rear is awesome, but I would not recommend putting a lift kit on one. If you have to do a lift kit you can get an EFI with the solid axle rear end that isn't a Quietech. The non Quietech (carb or EFI) are going to be noticeably louder but not terrible. Any used Yamahas are hard to find right now, but hopefully we will start to see more carts coming off leases in the next year or so if production of new carts can get back on schedule.
@@PowerEquipmentMan yeah really hard to find… my buddy buys them in bulk and just got a load of them after waiting 4-5 months. All electric and two drive 2 gas fleet carb. I’m going to look at both. Quietness is a concern because I’m in a neighborhood and have 20 acres behind my house. The quietech with irs seems awesome but so rare. I’ve been looking for over a year for a “deal”. Pricing is also nuts…
I have worked on golf carts for 30 years.I was a gas man but now from what I know I would buy electric. Why, because servicing a Yamaha is a bitch. Just to get to the oil drain plug u have to drop the silencing pad. Engineers engineer techs fix it!! Go lithum and forget the hassle of lead acid .Its 1920s technology!! Also now during the covid its hard to get parts for any Yamaha. And lets not forget about the Yamaha drive. Putting a braking system in a rear end, yea right!!
I've got a great video on how to change oil in a Yamaha cart quick and easy. If you are still pulling the drain plug you need to upgrade! I can do a full service on a Quietech in less than 10 minutes without crawling around on the ground. As far as I'm concerned lithium is still out of most people's price range. Thanks for watching.
@@ogsabertooth1 if you have some logical reasons as to why electric is better I would love to hear them. This video has had over 12,000 views and I have yet to have one single person that could tell me why electric is better than the Quietech. I'm not talking about 30 year old gas carts, not carbureted carts, just the Quietech.
I’ve driven every single brand you can think of… from ezgo txts, rxvs, club car precedents, ds, and onward. I’ve even driven a star. All of these were electric and my neighbor owns a drive 2 quietech with a plowmans kit. This kit is gonna get you the most power out of the engine possible. It is slower still up a hill than any electric cart, does about 33 mph on flats, which an RXV can do even up a slight incline. Other than the build quality and range there are no pros to a gas cart anymore. Just good for thought.
I have never seen any good solid data on what it actually cost on average to charge a cart per year, that's why I didn't include that information. Thanks for watching!
What is considered as a lot of hours or miles on a Yamaha quiet tech 2019? I’m going to look at a Yamaha quiet tech. The gentleman tells me it has 1400hrs or 1400 miles on golf cart please help
Since most fleet models don't come with hour meters, it's tough to determine what a "normal" engine life span is. As long as it was maintained well, I would guess that 1400 hours is about half way through it's engine life. That being said, 1400 hours and 1400 miles are two completely different things. I'm sure that it didn't drive 1 mph, so there is no way that it would have 1400 hours and 1400 miles at the same time. 1400 miles would only be about 5 or 6 tanks of fuel, so very low miles. I would assume that they just mean 1400 hours.
As mentioned in the video multiple times, the good lithium batteries are still out of most peoples price range. To have to spend $3000+ every 8 to 10 years is insane, plus the cost of charging it everyday. If you do your own maintenance on a gas cart, you would probably spend less then $1000 in gas and oil changes over that same time period.
What battery/motor/controller setup do you have? Even with big lithium batteries I have never heard of a cart that could go more than 50-100 miles on a charge, and the faster you drive the less distance you go. Feel free to email me some proof - sales@powerequipmentman.com
Yes its biased and what is wrong with that? Especially because the presenter shared his data which led him to his conclusion. If you think his data is flawed, he asked folks to logically break it down why he is wrong. I see nothing wrong with it. I think there is a little playing on FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) but I see almost everyone do this to some degree. In my opinion I think he is off the mark when it comes to battery life and the cost calculation/conclusions. A better review would be the two yamaha's compared gas vs electric.
We are actually seeing more courses that used to be electric only now converting to the gas Quietech because they are so quiet and the cost of maintenance is so much lower. I'm not sure about everywhere else, but around here I haven't heard of any courses that banned gas carts in the last several years. I'm sure that is a sales pitch that some dealers will use to try to get you to buy an electric cart because there really isn't any other good reason to buy electric anymore. Congrats on the new cart. Thanks for watching!
If you have a source for a complete lithium conversion kit that includes everything you need to convert a lead acid cart to lithium (including a lithium compatible charger) for $1800 please share the link. Thank you
Sorry but Club Car is hand down superior to EZGO... Not even close... Just so you know I have a 2000 Gem Car that I modified to run 35 mph in 2002. That required a different motor, slightly larger tires and a reprogramed controller ( less then $500 at the time ). Since time I have encountered ZERO problems. My batteries last 4 to 5 years until needing to be changed. Scaring folks is stupid and wrong... I personally maintain all the steering and brakes and over the last 24 years it has been problem free in all areas.
True. But I think since the Quietech came out there is getting to be less areas that don't allow them. A lot of golf courses that used to be electric only have now switched their fleets to Quietechs due to the much lower operating cost.
@@PowerEquipmentMan I'd like to hear a side by side comparison. I was referring to campgrounds only allowing electric but if the new gas carts are that quiet, maybe we can get them allowed and then a lot of us would switch.
@@MOONRAKER1922 So batteries aren't dangerous? They could never leak acid, or burn you, or explode? Checking acid level in your batteries every month is safer than putting gas in the tank? Google "exploding battery", and if you are talking about lithium batteries the risk is even higher. Is your lawn mower or car a ticking bomb because it has oil and gas in it? How do you transport gas safely to put in your mower? I drive my Quietech every day and only have to put gas in it about every 4 to 6 months, so I wouldn't see any reason that you would need to have a large supply of fuel on hand all the time. A 5 gallon gas can every 4 to 6 months isn't asking for much. I can guarantee you that over time gas carts are a MUCH lower operating cost than electric. Also I have NEVER heard of insurance being more expensive for a gas cart then an electric.
@@PowerEquipmentMan yeah I hear what your saying and I wanted gas originally too. I’m in NY and wanted street legal cart for neighborhood. I had to but electric or couldn’t register it not on approved list. Every state and area is different but here in NY the entire state you can’t register a gas cart period. The other point I was making is that for resort or camping areas the insurance companies for whatever reason don’t like them. Not talking quiet tech I know it’s a good cart just telling you what they do and how they look at it. Look how many electric cars there are now and how every state, ect goes Gaga over them. I agree with you but that’s what it is
@@PowerEquipmentMan yes, that’s the way it works. And 52 db is twice as loud as 51 db. A db is not an absolute number, it is a relative number (as compared to).
A quick google search yielded the following results: In decibel terms, a doubling in loudness corresponds to roughly an increase in 10 dB. It doesn't matter whether that increase is from 40 dB to 50 dB or 70 dB to 80 dB. A 1 dB change in a sound equates to about a 26% difference in sound energy (remember that a 3 dB difference is a doubling of energy levels). In terms of subjective loudness, a 1 dB change yields just over a 7% change. A 3 dB change yields a 100% increase in sound energy and just over a 23% increase in loudness. One decibel (0.1 bel) equals 10 times the common logarithm of the power ratio. Expressed as a formula, the intensity of a sound in decibels is 10 log10 (S1/S2), where S1 and S2 are the intensity of the two sounds; i.e., doubling the intensity of a sound means an increase of a little more than 3 dB. I guess you better check your math.
@@PowerEquipmentMan a decibel can be calculated two different ways, but with regard to comparing sound levels, the he generally accepted method is to use the comparison, or relative method. When I was in the Air Force and noise suppression was important to techs working on jet engines, noise suppressing ear muffs were rated in dbs. This is where I get my “math” from. My Lithium Club Car has none of the problems you talk about. My country club won’t allow gas carts due to noise and smell. Never used one at a lake or campground.
Well we have lawn mower racing so when is golf cart racing going to start? Drag, circular, demo derby? I see a whole world out their opening up with golf cart racing. Headlines: 'Daytona 100 duel in the sun tickets selling fast' Top racers from around the country. 😁
Instead of thinking about how broke you are, figure out what you can do to afford the things you want in life. Once you change your mindset a lot of new doors can open. Thanks for watching!
I also stated that lithium is out of most people's price range. So 90% of the people watching this video are looking at carts with lead acid batteries. So the information I gave is relevant to them. 10 years from now it will be different with more lithium carts available and more competitive pricing on them.
I've been wondering why they use 8V batteries instead of 6V or 12V batteries. Who uses 8V batteries (besides golf carts)? Why don't they use a more common battery? They're always more needlessly expensive. Makes no sense (except for just selling you stuff)..
Golf cart batteries (deep cycle batteries) are different from automotive type batteries. You can't just use a regular 12 volt car battery in a golf cart. A deep cycle battery holds a charge much longer and are designed to be discharged and recharged over and over. In the world of golf cart batteries, 6 volt, 8 volt, and 12 volt are all common sizes of golf cart batteries.
@@PowerEquipmentMan But, they do make deep cycle 12V batteries for trolling motors and other things. And, what about Forklift batteries? Besides, they could still manufacture those same 8V batteries in a 12V (or 6V) format. I see no need for an 8V format at all.
Can you please be more specific on what information was incorrect? I have had several people tell me I'm wrong, but they can't provide any actual data or facts to disprove any information I gave in this video.
This video is primarily discussing lead acid batteries which do require water regularly. There is nowhere in this video that says you would put water in a lithium battery.
I only said that because you start the video showing a Ezgo lithium RXV cart so when you start the comparison it should be pointed out that only the flooded batteries need water level to be maintained.
I forgot to mention that the Quietech PTV model comes with high speed gears, so it goes 19mph from the factory.
Is it possible to make the ptv faster?
You asked for challenge to your review. I posted some.
@@Ptro1 yes, it’s a simple matter to turn up the governor. With 20” tires I do 25+ all day long on my fuel injected Drive PTV. One day I’d love to have a similar Drive 2 PTV.
@@MudValve-42 got it to about 27
This is the best review of electric vs gas that I have ever seen . The gas is the best choice for me
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Other than the exhaust smell.
I have a 2018 Ptv with a fold down windshield. The top half is only up if I get caught it the rain. I only smell the exhaust when I’m taking it out of the barn. I’m about a block from the clubhouse. By the time I get there everything is warmed up and there is no odor.
It’s the only and he’s full of bs and must sell gas golf carts wow like politics but he’s such a good salesman I can’t help but believe him instead of doing some research lmao
@@jonathanbuford1793Go on and get yourself the electric one, the MAJORITY of us that prefer GAS will burn the what you don't use,😂😂😂
I have had my own golf car(s) for the last thirty five years, both gas and electric and enjoyed them both. This should be required reading for anyone considering buying a used golf car. Great video. I agree with every single thing you said.
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I'm currently in the market for a cart and the big question is gas vs electric. Thanks so much for making this video, it's exactly what I needed!
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!
I have an electric golf cart that I got recently from SWFL Golf Carts, will always prefer it over gas carts. Thanks for sharing this video!
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You nailed this real-world comparison pardoner. Super helpful and I am looking for one right now. Thank you!
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Great Job !!! I've been running gas carts since the early 90s. I now have 3 gas EFI Club cars in my family . You couldn't give me a sparky........
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We are seriously thinking about buying a Club gas powered golf cart. Do you have any comment on the motor reliability versus the Kawasaki engine that comes in an ezgo cart?
I have been doing my homework and came up with the same idea of what will work best for me at the cabin. I just purchased a EFI gasser today and picking it up on Monday.
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
Great video. Thank you so much for all the research and information. I have a plant nursery and we have used ez go for 20-30 years. This video has helped me decide that gas is the best choice for us. Now if I can find one… 😊
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info....I am in the market for a golf cart to ride around the neighborhood. I was leaning towards gas and now I'm definitely getting gas and I'm getting a Yamaha PTV....Thanks for all the info on your channel. Great content.
Glad I could help. You wont be disappointed with a PTV! Thanks for watching
Just bought a brand new quiet tech. Can't wait to get it
Awesome! Thanks for watching
This was a great video. You clearly explained and answered all questions that I had. I appreciate the cost estimates to put things in perspective. Thank you!
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couple corrections, number one regen braking and the electric parking brake are 2 separate things. regen is for service braking and the electric motor brake is only to lock the cart in place, it does not do any braking when you push on the brake pedal. number 2 is that a gas cart will not always get the same range or performance over time. wear in the carb (not applicable to EFI models), primary and secondary clutch, cables adjustments, drive belt, valve adjustment etc can effect the fuel economy and performance. third thing is that although yes the motor brakes can fail on RXVs i see way more failures that cause the brakes to not function on regular cable operated brakes that cause rollaways. other than that, pretty spot on. we find most people around here have electric due to rules about not running gas carts in the areas that allow them. i personally prefer electrics and find them way more reliable.
Thanks for the comment! Sorry things got a little confusing with the brake issue, as you can tell I'm not a big RXV guy. I think as the Quietech's become more available there will start to be less areas that are electric only. I have already seen a ton of courses around here switch their fleets from electric to the Quietechs because they are quiet enough to keep everyone happy and the operating cost are so much lower for a gas fleet than an electric fleet. Thanks for watching!
@@PowerEquipmentMan no worries! RXVs are our bread and butter here, we love them! the yamaha dealer around here isnt huge and they also do toro equipment and much prefer that so i dont think in this area they will make a comeback
Not to mention the after market world for the Yamaha carts is basically non existent.
The ont thing not mentioned here is that if traveling with your cart. Lots of places have restrictions on gas carts, but electric carts are allowed everywhere. These restrictions usually apply to state parks and campgrounds. Be ware.
Own an Electric Cart and Yamaha QuietTech. Wouldn't trade my gas for electric. Thanks for the video.
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Excellent! I needed all that info badly! Appreciate it! My boss is an electric golf cart guy.....wow....is he wrong!
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Excellent comparison video!!! 👏👏
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The best comparison review on UA-cam!!!
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Something to consider is if you are transporting your cart to different locations Campgrounds, golf courses, retirement communities many now have banned gas powered carts. Also spend the extra money and buy the LifePO4 batteries they last for 15 to 20 years no maintenance, and you can run them to 0% and no damage occurs, compared to Lead Acid Batteries.
It depends on your location. We are in Kansas and there are no campgrounds, communities, or courses in the mid west that I have ever heard of that "banned" gas golf carts. Most of them prefer gas carts since they don't need any electricity to charge back up. Anywhere that did ban gas carts was probably because of the old noisy and smelly 2-stroke carts of the 80s. New 4-stoke and EFI carts aren't any different than driving a car.
LifePO4 batteries lasting for 15 to 20 years is 100% false. Most of the lithium battery manufacturers are claiming that their batteries will last 8 to 12 years (vs the 3 to 5 years of a lead acid battery). And if you run your lithium to 0%, yes it won't hurt it, but you still have to tow it home!
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Omgoodness you're awesome, very informative video!... I'm trying to modify a '93 gas club car I just purchased over the weekend... I'm gonna make a lot of modifications to make it street legal.... Your video answered a lot of questions for me... Thank You So Much Sir.
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FINALLY A REALLY INFORMATIVE VIDEO!!! GOING GAS NOW!!
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And another donkey not thinking because the carrot looks so tasty lol
Sounds like gas power for me thanks for the information
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Another point on lithium batteries is they don't like to be stored at 100%. Storing lithium batteries above 80-90% causes them to gas off and swell which prematurely kills their life expectancy. So that's another consideration in comparing them to lead acid or AGM batteries.
Thanks for the info!
Just as an FYI, in Arizona, 48 volt lead acid batteries only last about 4 years due to the heat being so hard on them. You have to water the batteries with distilled water about once a month. Wear only clothes you don't care about when you do it! Also, think about getting a rubberized pad for underneath your cart because if you miss, the water will go on your garage floor and discolor it. As of 2024, the cost to replace lead acid batteries in a EZGO golf cart is $1,800.
Good information. Thank you!
We use our carts for neighborhood and for my sons golf matches. Electric doesn’t cut it. Where we use it so much the batteries just don’t last. Just bought a gas Club Car and couldn’t be happier. No more worries on the golf course where we have ended up walking because the batteries went dead.
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Love your videos! I just bought a 2018 Yamaha DR2 carb. I think I got a really good deal and can't wait to use your videos to go over it. Can you tell me what is the best gas to put in it?
Try to get NON ethanol fuel if you can. If you can't get that, they make some good fuel additives that you can use with ethanol fuel to help fight ethanol issues. Like this - amzn.to/37RtNVp Thanks for watching and enjoy your new ride!
Thank you. I actually just bought Sta-Bil
360 Performance. Thanks again for the videos!
The quality of Yamaha carts is leaps and bounds above easy go - gas or electric. It’s like comparing a BMW to a Chevy. They ride and drive more like a car than the other two big brands.
True! Thanks for watching
bmw is overpriced junk. not to mention the price for parts and insurance and repairs and maintenance. if you enjoy being ripped off then keep buying bmw
I think you sold me-I’m buying a gas powered EFI quiet-tech tomorrow! Thanks buddy-liked and subbed! 😊
Great to hear! Thanks for watching!
@@PowerEquipmentMan thabks-is 6K a good price on a 2017 Yamaha gas powered EFI quiet tech cart?
@@JP1970 Yes, that sounds like a decent price if it is in good condition.
@@PowerEquipmentMan thank you-going to look at it in a few hours. Time will tell. Thanks again for all your videos!
Excellent, Excellent, Excellent discussion! Thank-you very much.
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A few corrections I would like to make.
Re: Electrics
Lithium has definitely been tested and proven viable as a replacement to gas.
They have been in vehicles (Full EV) since 2010. You can find those still running with original batteries 12 years later.
Pro Grade tools have used them for about the same time. Mac Tools, Snap On , Dewalt etc etc
If they weren’t meeting the grade, people would not be depending on them.
Indy cars are going electric as are fleet delivery vehicles.
Here are some of the benefits of Lithium that you either didn’t mention or glazed over a bit.
Lithium batteries get 5000 cycles vs Lead Acids 500-1000 this means they will last 5x longer , not twice as long.
Lithiums double your range for direct replacements. 70 miles on a charge.
Lithium’s can be discharged down to 10-20% vs Lead acids 50-55%
Lithium batteries offer full power for the duration of the cycle, unlike Lead which start losing performance as soon as they start discharging
Lithiums weigh about 20% of a Lead acid which increases the speed of and the payload capacity of your Golf cart
Lithiums do NOT have to be kept on a charger when not in use. It will not damage the battery like a lead acid will.
Lithiums charge much much faster than lead acid
Now on to advantages for electric in general .
If you are taking it to campgrounds.
Charging them is free at your site
Many campgrounds don’t allow Gasser carts
They make almost no noise
You can overvolt and replace the controller of an electric golf cart to get that 30-40 mph. Very easy
Electric golf carts have instant torque and reach max power output immediately where as gassers make power as they move through the rpm band.
So, short burst spot hopping is faster
Most of the other stuff you said is true, a Gasser where possible is still the better choice. But the disparity is not as large as you mentioned.
This video has been up for a year and you are the first person that has came up with any logical information for electric carts. Thank you! I do still have to disagree with you about lithium being "proven" specifically in the golf cart industry. Golf carts are very different from any other application. Golf carts have only been widely using lithium for less then 5 years. Sure there may have been a few people testing with them before that, but they have actually only been in production for less then 5 years. So all the people/companies saying that the lifespan of a lithium battery in a golf cart application is 10 to 12 years is purely guessing based on perfect conditions. It will be another 10 years before we have enough actual data to look at and determine how long they really last in 'real world' use. Maybe by then they will also be more affordable! I have no doubt that lithium batteries will be just like lead acid when it comes to "you get what you pay for". Cheap Chinese lithium batteries will most likely have a significantly shorter life cycle than higher quality, so it would be foolish for anyone to think that they can go buy any battery and it will last 10 plus years and they will be able to go 70 miles on a charge. Distance is directly related to speed, terrain, tire size, # of passengers, load, etc. Upgraded electrical parts to get more speed can get VERY expensive, and increased speed = less distance on a charge. As far as noise goes, the Quietech is still rated at only 1 decibel louder than an electric (doesn't matter if its lead acid or lithium). I personally would much rather hear the rumble from a gas engine than the whine of an electric motor.
Thanks again, I really do appreciate all the good information! Thanks for watching
@@PowerEquipmentMan nice to talk to you. For evidence of Lithium soundness in Golf Carts (while I agree it’s not proven directly) They are more than proven in Scooters , High power tools and cars. At the end of the day an electric golf cart is the same as these because of their simplicity. Batteries-> Controller-> Electric Motor
Also you can’t assume cheap. Could you use cheap parts, sure, but from a top level manufacturer I doubt that would happen. The downsides with crappy cells is they can explode.
My main point is that the full story wasn’t quite told.
You can look for guidance in the market.
The top vehicle companies are all going Lithium. There’s a reason for that.
Rivian
GM
Ford
Tesla
Apple
Amazon
UPS
It’s impossible that all those folks are wrong
Both of you have shed serious light on this conversation. I bought my first ever last week and it's a 2013 Club Car DS electric. It has 2018 Trojan Hydro-link batteries 8 volt T-875. They're still running strong but nearing their advertised lifespan. I bought electric because my mind says it has less parts to go wrong, easy access for repairs, quicker repair time if needed, and as long as the batteries are charged, your chance of going from point A to B and back are more guaranteed without breaking down. There's arguments for both sides and they're valid. It really comes down to what makes you happier. And we all live with our choices. My only delima is choosing lithium or acid when the time comes. Based on data, lithium wins but not on price. 🤔
One reason I don’t prefer gas golf carts is they are soo slow.. my stock ICON goes 30 MPH.. I’ll take that any day of the week.
A good thing to mention with bigger wheels and a gear swap you dont have as much torque to go up hills tow a cart or haul 4 ppl up a grade
Good point. Thanks for watching!
Gas PTV all day, not even a question. Great video.
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Wow...that was an Excellent review. Thank you for the information! You have a new Subscriber!
Awesome! Thanks for watching
I’ll stick with my quiet tech gas. I had a battery cart previously but I’d run out of juice in a long day of golf.
Quietechs are awesome carts! Thanks for watching
For the ones that don't want to stick around for 23 minutes. Heres a 11/2 minute rebuttal.
First thing first. Everyone says electric is torquey but don't let that deceive you. Though they kick they are extraordinarily slow. They can be modified but since they are controlled Via ECU they can easily have speed limiters programed into them. Gas on the other hand require a transmission modification to do this. And just because gas carts are cheap. Doesn't mean the transmission is too
Another misconception is that gas engines are hard to maintain and it's quite the opposite. Acid batteries are not only expensive they are Extremely Fucking Heavy. Just 1 12V is 64 lbs. And commonly with EV carts they have 4/5 which is about 370-410 lbs additionally added. Whilst most single-cylinders are around 170-200 lbs and can be lighter with light weight performance parts. Which also improve the performance of the engine
Plus the design has been around for decades. There are so many super obtainable engines and parts for gas carts that cost half the price. And finally the biggest of them all is with a 6 gallon tank for a gas cart can last for months before refuel. And EV's need a refill everyday. Let that sink in.
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I have a 2020 quiet tech drive 2. When it’s running you’d swear it’s battery, it isn’t loud at all. I’d rather a gas over battery any day. My cousin has battery can’t tell you how many times she ran out of juice when driving on the road
Gas is the way to go for sure. Thanks for watching!
WOW! What a great unbiased review! Thank you for the "unbiased" opinion! LOL! 🤣🤣
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I have a 2018 Yamaha efi quiet tech cart. I enjoy your videos, adjusted the bolt on governor for more speed running about 18-19 mph which is perfect. I’m looking to lower my cart any suggestions. Thanks for your time.
I don't know of any place that makes a lower kit. I have seen one or two guys that were able to successfully lower theirs with lots of custom fabrication. Good luck! Here is one of them - facebook.com/SweitzersPerformanceCenter/
Wow, that was a excellent break down. I’m subscribing based on how well this one video was.
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Newer 48 volt electric models have gel sealed batteries . (lithium is also an option, but super expensive ) No water and maintenance, Ever . Can last up to 7 years , Have a range of about 40 miles . Charge in about 7 hours . And modern ones have digital speedometers that show the charge level so no surprises..Sure , they don’t have the range of a gas but they are getting better .
Wow! Excellent analysis. You really know your stuff. Thank you.
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Great video. Thanks for the info
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This was a really helpful video, thank you!
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Outstanding comparative review...thank you!
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Is it still possible to get a Yamaha quiet tech for that price these days? I see them a lot higher in the resale market now. Just curious if maybe I need to drive further out of the northeast Fl area I’m in.
Price has gone up quite a bit since we did this video. A lot of it is due to very low supply of new carts coming from Yamaha.
Really enjoy your videos! Keep it up!
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Can you recommend a Yamaha quiet golf cart for hunting regardless of year?
Quietechs are great all around carts. Very few changes have been made since they were released in 2017. So any model year of Quietech from 2017 to now would be good. They did change the exhaust duct in 2020 and newer models, which may be beneficial to you if you are driving in dry grass.
Thanks for making this video…I learned a lot! You did a great Job…
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We got a Yamaha QuietTech last august (2021 model) with everything but it costed way more than what you are saying, it was around 12k for everything included (seatbelts, mirrors, floor mats, upgraded light package, etc) is that just a higher upgrade than the prices you are mentioning?
The prices that I listed in this video for EZGO and Yamaha did not include the cost of any accessories. You can easily spend several thousand more dollars adding upgrades to suit your needs. Thanks for watching
@@PowerEquipmentMan Ah ok that makes sense then thanks for the reply
Electric cart with lithium batteries for me. Gas carts are smelly and generally noisier. The backdraft of the exhaust can give you a headache.
i would love to get gas but how hard is it to do maintenance yourself? like oil changing.
Here is a video that shows you how to service the Yamaha Drive and Drive2 models - ua-cam.com/video/ALkdPcjioEU/v-deo.html
Definitely going with QuieTech ... appreciate your comparison content .... although not quite your expertise .....I have a question - plan on traveling with my dog [golf cart community] and was wondering if you aware of carriers that were a goof fit behind front bucket seats? Just wondering - thanks
Sorry I dont have any info on dog carriers. Thanks for watching!
@@PowerEquipmentMan Thanks ...
I've worked on several electric carts, enough to know I don't want one. Gas carts are just easier & cheaper over the years.
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I have Drive 2 Elec. is there anything that i can do to stiffen up the Dash. when i hit expansion joints on the road or pot holes the dash shakes like its falling apart!
Have you looked to make sure that all the clips and screws are there that hold the dash in place. I have never heard of or seen that type of issue. You can watch this video to see what fasteners should be there - ua-cam.com/video/geVItk0RBOQ/v-deo.html
New to your videos, could you please tell me what area are you in? Pricing varies in different areas.
We are in south central Kansas. Thanks for watching.
Pricing was the same in South Texas in 2018 when I bought mine.
Does the ptv Yamaha comes with different speed gears as well?
Yes. It will be set at 19 mph when you get it, and can be turned up to around 23 mph pretty easily.
Great stuff. Very helpfull
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Why is the PTV so much faster than the 2+2 adventurer? Is it just the governor adjustment?
PTV models have high speed gears. The Adventurers have standard fleet gears.
A gas powered cart still has a battery that needs maintained.
Gas powered cart batteries are maintenance free, meaning you don't check the water level in it like you do on electric carts. I did mention in the video that gas powered cart's battery will need to be replaced every 6 to 8 years. They usually last longer due to less load (only having to start the cart). So you don't do anything to it until it needs to be replaced.
Put a solar panel on an electric ezgo pos. Always charged. Light use, though.
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What’s better for off-road use?
Gas would definitely be better for off road use.
@@PowerEquipmentMan is the gas efi with independent rear suspension worth waiting for? Or are they pretty rare to get your hands on from the lease returns? Is the drive 2 carb louder than the drive 2 efi? (2017 and newer?)
@@RaztechPowersports The Quietech with the independent rear is awesome, but I would not recommend putting a lift kit on one. If you have to do a lift kit you can get an EFI with the solid axle rear end that isn't a Quietech. The non Quietech (carb or EFI) are going to be noticeably louder but not terrible. Any used Yamahas are hard to find right now, but hopefully we will start to see more carts coming off leases in the next year or so if production of new carts can get back on schedule.
@@PowerEquipmentMan yeah really hard to find… my buddy buys them in bulk and just got a load of them after waiting 4-5 months. All electric and two drive 2 gas fleet carb. I’m going to look at both. Quietness is a concern because I’m in a neighborhood and have 20 acres behind my house. The quietech with irs seems awesome but so rare. I’ve been looking for over a year for a “deal”. Pricing is also nuts…
I have worked on golf carts for 30 years.I was a gas man but now from what I know I would buy electric. Why, because servicing a Yamaha is a bitch. Just to get to the oil drain plug u have to drop the silencing pad. Engineers engineer techs fix it!! Go lithum and forget the hassle of lead acid .Its 1920s technology!! Also now during the covid its hard to get parts for any Yamaha. And lets not forget about the Yamaha drive. Putting a braking system in a rear end, yea right!!
I've got a great video on how to change oil in a Yamaha cart quick and easy. If you are still pulling the drain plug you need to upgrade! I can do a full service on a Quietech in less than 10 minutes without crawling around on the ground. As far as I'm concerned lithium is still out of most people's price range. Thanks for watching.
Stick with what you know. I agreed 100% electric is the only way to go. They will see the problems to come in a gas cart.
@@ogsabertooth1 if you have some logical reasons as to why electric is better I would love to hear them. This video has had over 12,000 views and I have yet to have one single person that could tell me why electric is better than the Quietech. I'm not talking about 30 year old gas carts, not carbureted carts, just the Quietech.
I’ve driven every single brand you can think of… from ezgo txts, rxvs, club car precedents, ds, and onward. I’ve even driven a star. All of these were electric and my neighbor owns a drive 2 quietech with a plowmans kit. This kit is gonna get you the most power out of the engine possible. It is slower still up a hill than any electric cart, does about 33 mph on flats, which an RXV can do even up a slight incline. Other than the build quality and range there are no pros to a gas cart anymore. Just good for thought.
So nice to have updated comparison videos, thank you for putting these together!
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What about cost to charge over time? Not mentioned in any videos i've watched.
I have never seen any good solid data on what it actually cost on average to charge a cart per year, that's why I didn't include that information. Thanks for watching!
The cost to charge makes lithium the best choice over traditional batteries over a 10 year period.
What is considered as a lot of hours or miles on a Yamaha quiet tech 2019? I’m going to look at a Yamaha quiet tech. The gentleman tells me it has 1400hrs or 1400 miles on golf cart please help
Since most fleet models don't come with hour meters, it's tough to determine what a "normal" engine life span is. As long as it was maintained well, I would guess that 1400 hours is about half way through it's engine life.
That being said, 1400 hours and 1400 miles are two completely different things. I'm sure that it didn't drive 1 mph, so there is no way that it would have 1400 hours and 1400 miles at the same time. 1400 miles would only be about 5 or 6 tanks of fuel, so very low miles. I would assume that they just mean 1400 hours.
Every negative pointed out is fixed with a Lithium Battery Pack.
As mentioned in the video multiple times, the good lithium batteries are still out of most peoples price range. To have to spend $3000+ every 8 to 10 years is insane, plus the cost of charging it everyday. If you do your own maintenance on a gas cart, you would probably spend less then $1000 in gas and oil changes over that same time period.
You can tell this guy is definitely a gas man!
Yep! Thanks for watching
But what about AGM batteries?
My 2019 club car gets 200 miles on one charge and runs up to 50 miles per hour. I have 22" tires and 6 to 1 gears.
What battery/motor/controller setup do you have? Even with big lithium batteries I have never heard of a cart that could go more than 50-100 miles on a charge, and the faster you drive the less distance you go. Feel free to email me some proof - sales@powerequipmentman.com
You forgot to mention that the PTV also comes with the high speed gears
Thanks for catching that!
#1. None of the maintenance if it is a LITHIUM battery. #2. Many areas will NOT ALLOW gas carts so HUGE negatives there
This is a biased review. However, the torque on an RXV is superior to any gas cart QuietTech included.
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VERY biased indeed.
Yes its biased and what is wrong with that? Especially because the presenter shared his data which led him to his conclusion. If you think his data is flawed, he asked folks to logically break it down why he is wrong. I see nothing wrong with it. I think there is a little playing on FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) but I see almost everyone do this to some degree. In my opinion I think he is off the mark when it comes to battery life and the cost calculation/conclusions. A better review would be the two yamaha's compared gas vs electric.
I drove one of the gas yamahas today it slowed to a crawl trying to climb a blacktop hill.. very weak would not want one
Adding a stiffer spring to the secondary clutch makes a big difference on the hills. Thanks for watching!
I am in the market for a gently gas cart and boy do I need to talk to you! I have an electric now. How can I get in touch?
Sent you an email.
Just bought an ezgo freedom elite with a 60 amp Lithium battery, for golf, their starting to ban gas golf carts on golf causes
We are actually seeing more courses that used to be electric only now converting to the gas Quietech because they are so quiet and the cost of maintenance is so much lower. I'm not sure about everywhere else, but around here I haven't heard of any courses that banned gas carts in the last several years. I'm sure that is a sales pitch that some dealers will use to try to get you to buy an electric cart because there really isn't any other good reason to buy electric anymore. Congrats on the new cart. Thanks for watching!
I have never seen a lithium bat cost 2,500 bucks. I have priced a ezgo pack at 1800 tops.
If you have a source for a complete lithium conversion kit that includes everything you need to convert a lead acid cart to lithium (including a lithium compatible charger) for $1800 please share the link. Thank you
@@PowerEquipmentMan look up DIY Solar with Will Prowse, he covers these super cheap grade A cells… also has a golf cart with 300w solar roof.
Sorry but Club Car is hand down superior to EZGO... Not even close... Just so you know I have a 2000 Gem Car that I modified to run 35 mph in 2002. That required a different motor, slightly larger tires and a reprogramed controller ( less then $500 at the time ). Since time I have encountered ZERO problems. My batteries last 4 to 5 years until needing to be changed. Scaring folks is stupid and wrong... I personally maintain all the steering and brakes and over the last 24 years it has been problem free in all areas.
Cool....thanks for watching.
All I can say is Navetis ac swap!!!😁
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Hill capability is tenfold what the gas will be able to do, whether you go with Navitas or stick with stock RXV motor
The gas’ one sounds a whole lot better.
Sure does! Thanks for watching.
There’s no way I would allow a lithium golf cart to sit in my house until they get their shit together about the fires
That can definitely be a concern with lithium.
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If the brake fails, the cart locks up. It cannot fail and keep rolling.
thanks
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Can these be licensed for city street use?
You have to check with your local law enforcement to see if they are allowed in your area and what is required.
You are obviously a gas guy BUT there's a lot of places people use carts that don't allow gas
True. But I think since the Quietech came out there is getting to be less areas that don't allow them. A lot of golf courses that used to be electric only have now switched their fleets to Quietechs due to the much lower operating cost.
@@PowerEquipmentMan I'd like to hear a side by side comparison. I was referring to campgrounds only allowing electric but if the new gas carts are that quiet, maybe we can get them allowed and then a lot of us would switch.
@@PowerEquipmentMan it’s not just about noise. It’s about insurance and gas ⛽️ and oil the danger of storing gas on site ect.
@@MOONRAKER1922 So batteries aren't dangerous? They could never leak acid, or burn you, or explode? Checking acid level in your batteries every month is safer than putting gas in the tank? Google "exploding battery", and if you are talking about lithium batteries the risk is even higher.
Is your lawn mower or car a ticking bomb because it has oil and gas in it? How do you transport gas safely to put in your mower? I drive my Quietech every day and only have to put gas in it about every 4 to 6 months, so I wouldn't see any reason that you would need to have a large supply of fuel on hand all the time. A 5 gallon gas can every 4 to 6 months isn't asking for much.
I can guarantee you that over time gas carts are a MUCH lower operating cost than electric. Also I have NEVER heard of insurance being more expensive for a gas cart then an electric.
@@PowerEquipmentMan yeah I hear what your saying and I wanted gas originally too. I’m in NY and wanted street legal cart for neighborhood. I had to but electric or couldn’t register it not on approved list. Every state and area is different but here in NY the entire state you can’t register a gas cart period. The other point I was making is that for resort or camping areas the insurance companies for whatever reason don’t like them. Not talking quiet tech I know it’s a good cart just telling you what they do and how they look at it. Look how many electric cars there are now and how every state, ect goes Gaga over them. I agree with you but that’s what it is
GAS, ALL DAY, EVERY DAY....
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1 db is twice as loud. It doesn’t sound like much when you say only 1 db louder … but it’s twice as loud.
So your saying that 51 db is 100% louder than 50 db?
@@PowerEquipmentMan yes, that’s the way it works. And 52 db is twice as loud as 51 db. A db is not an absolute number, it is a relative number (as compared to).
A quick google search yielded the following results:
In decibel terms, a doubling in loudness corresponds to roughly an increase in 10 dB. It doesn't matter whether that increase is from 40 dB to 50 dB or 70 dB to 80 dB.
A 1 dB change in a sound equates to about a 26% difference in sound energy (remember that a 3 dB difference is a doubling of energy levels). In terms of subjective loudness, a 1 dB change yields just over a 7% change. A 3 dB change yields a 100% increase in sound energy and just over a 23% increase in loudness.
One decibel (0.1 bel) equals 10 times the common logarithm of the power ratio. Expressed as a formula, the intensity of a sound in decibels is 10 log10 (S1/S2), where S1 and S2 are the intensity of the two sounds; i.e., doubling the intensity of a sound means an increase of a little more than 3 dB.
I guess you better check your math.
@@PowerEquipmentMan a decibel can be calculated two different ways, but with regard to comparing sound levels, the he generally accepted method is to use the comparison, or relative method. When I was in the Air Force and noise suppression was important to techs working on jet engines, noise suppressing ear muffs were rated in dbs. This is where I get my “math” from. My Lithium Club Car has none of the problems you talk about. My country club won’t allow gas carts due to noise and smell. Never used one at a lake or campground.
Well we have lawn mower racing so when is golf cart racing going to start? Drag, circular, demo derby? I see a whole world out their opening up with golf cart racing.
Headlines: 'Daytona 100 duel in the sun tickets selling fast' Top racers from around the country. 😁
I'm ready! I think they do some golf cart drag racing somewhere on the east coast, but we are in Kansas so that's a bit of a drive for us.
I have a Quietech and I get NO exhaust fume smell. I wouldn't have bought one if I did.
Awesome! Thanks for watching
I want a yamaha but im broke
Instead of thinking about how broke you are, figure out what you can do to afford the things you want in life. Once you change your mindset a lot of new doors can open. Thanks for watching!
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Biased opinion, lithium batteries don’t need water and don’t corrode
I also stated that lithium is out of most people's price range. So 90% of the people watching this video are looking at carts with lead acid batteries. So the information I gave is relevant to them. 10 years from now it will be different with more lithium carts available and more competitive pricing on them.
@@PowerEquipmentMan dealers need to stop price gouging, battery prices have dropped significantly year over year
I have always loved my electric cart, but maybe it is time to change. It is common sense.
If you haven't tested out a new Quietech, I strongly encourage you to. Thanks for watching
Dame, you really don't like electric cart....
Some of what he said about the batteries is not true.
I've been wondering why they use 8V batteries instead of 6V or 12V batteries. Who uses 8V batteries (besides golf carts)? Why don't they use a more common battery? They're always more needlessly expensive. Makes no sense (except for just selling you stuff)..
Golf cart batteries (deep cycle batteries) are different from automotive type batteries. You can't just use a regular 12 volt car battery in a golf cart. A deep cycle battery holds a charge much longer and are designed to be discharged and recharged over and over. In the world of golf cart batteries, 6 volt, 8 volt, and 12 volt are all common sizes of golf cart batteries.
@@PowerEquipmentMan But, they do make deep cycle 12V batteries for trolling motors and other things. And, what about Forklift batteries? Besides, they could still manufacture those same 8V batteries in a 12V (or 6V) format. I see no need for an 8V format at all.
Jeezzz ... you said Lithium .... They DO NOT have WATER !!!!!
I never said that lithium batteries had water. This video mainly discussed lead acid batteries, which do have water.
Way off on the lithium battery info. Change the title to “why I love gas power golf carts”.
Can you please be more specific on what information was incorrect? I have had several people tell me I'm wrong, but they can't provide any actual data or facts to disprove any information I gave in this video.
I don't care what anyone says, electric is not worth it. And resale is not there. They win the junk award.
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Since when do you add water to a lithium battery? This guy should do his homework
This video is primarily discussing lead acid batteries which do require water regularly. There is nowhere in this video that says you would put water in a lithium battery.
I only said that because you start the video showing a Ezgo lithium RXV cart so when you start the comparison it should be pointed out that only the flooded batteries need water level to be maintained.
@@steves9028 the RXV used in this video was a lead acid cart.
I have an electric cart, it sucks, I hate charging it every day.
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Don’t buy electric, it’s very hard to sell it once you want to get a gas one.
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