I want to thank you for the video. I been wanting to do this, and I tend to take my time when trying something "new" with the radio. The other night, once I got it setup, I was able to check into my local, from my bed, with the radio on the other side of the room. 73 KC0KM
The TM-V71a is an awesome radio. I use the Lock-Band feature when connecting to repeaters that I can hear with the handheld. Others [picky old farts] may and have complained about the ID coming across the repeater in cross-band mode.
The most important thing you forgot to mention is if for any reason something opens your squelch on uhf you are now jamming that two meter repeater. Always use pl when cross banding. And always use low power on your control Chanel.
6:04 makes me want that radio because of the internal ID "DE AF5DN"! I use the cross-band repeater on the TS-2000 all the time and it needs an ID (I'm using an external controller). Also the morse code at 7:15 says "K5SLD ARLINGTON ARC".
I had my TM-V71A in crossband mode and I heard my CW call on my HT that was on 70cm. However, I also received notification that my CW call was broadcasting on the 2M repeater that I was crossbanding to. Any ideas on why it's transmitting my call on both frequencies and not only the 70cm frequency I was using on my HT?
I'll add another thumbs up for an excellent video from you. Thanks! Does the auto ID only xmt when rig is put into crossband rpt mode? I'd hate to have it go into xmt on the bench someday without an antenna connected because I forgot to turn OFF the menu selection 406.
Nice vid, thanks. Makes me consider going for my license (gave up on the idea back when morse was still a requirement due to some of the locals behavior). Is that mobile able to be split? If so it would be a good competitor by the looks to the Alinco DR635T I think the model was that I was looking at getting.
Nice video, I have a question about the TMV71A. I have one and I cannot figure out how to make the A and B bands separate. I just want 2m on band A and 440 on band B. I don't want to see any 440 on band A when I scan on band A I know it can be done because I have seen it before. I want to scan both bands separately. Do you know how to do this? Thanks, W7DSE.
Hi there AF5DN very informative video. I have the Kenwood Tm-D710GA and was wondering if you new if my radio has the auto announce feature? I would like to set it up to send via morse. Thanks for the reply.
MeOnTech Regarding the morse ID, does it only xmit it on the simplex side you're using between your ht and the mobile or does it also xmit it out on the repeater (or frequency) that is on the other side?
No one ever talks about "cross band assist" mode. If you can hear the repeater direct from your HT why go full cross band? The other plus is that you don't have to wait for the repeater to drop to transmit on the HT.
What do you mean 'a newer transceiver that has this repeater feature built in'? All V71's have this feature, along with the Yeasu 8800/8900. The 'new' version of the V71 has had the 'remote' option deleted when using X Band Repeat function. By getting a 'newer' version of the V71, you are actually getting a less optioned unit
Hi Folks...Great videos. I set up the Morse IDer. Problem is ...in crossband repeat mode MY ID goes over the local repeater as well. Is there a way to set up the ID to just transmit on the UHF simplex side only? Thanks. 73 all. Oh ya...great RADIO too.
I have owned this radio for aprox 5 years now. It has broken twice now, first was the fuse that is common to blow and is slightly larger than a grain of salt on the third level circuit board. The fuse was replaced. Now about a year later the speaker won't work, anyone have any ideas? POS don't buy one, or keep in bubble wrap surrounded by pillows...
Hello David!....Is ARLINGTON RPT is VHF and left frequency UHF? What about cross band same VHF? Because I am planning to buy the unit and using it only for 2 m. only....73 de Edgar DV3SJM
I know you asked this 6 months ago but...crossband repeat is just that: crossband. Meaning, vhf to uhf or uhf to vhf. You can't use the same band on both sides, sorry.
Great video, thanks for posting. Some local elmers were telling me that I shouldn't cross band repeat into a repeater... but to use it strictly for simplex. What are your thoughts on that?
Hogwash. What you shouldn't do is foul up the local repeater by transmitting a bunch of garbage into it. Cross band repeating gives you lots of extra ways to do just that. However, if you're doing it properly (choose proper frequencies, setup PL tones, set your squelch properly, etc.) then using a setup like this to get into the repeater cleanly while wandering around with just a low power HT is a perfectly valid thing to do.
Coming back with another question for clarification. If like in the example video... multiple users set up CWID from their crossbanding mobile... isn't it plausible that the repeater gets spammed with CW ID's all day long? If I were the repeater operator, I wouldn't want that tying up the machine all day. Again, just curious and thanks in advance.
***** Thanks for that info. This is what I was afraid of and why I was apprehensive to have that feature on. I know other users of the local repeater don't want to hear my call transmitted in CW every 10 minutes. Not sure why they made it that way; seems it should only transmit it on the side you're using for simplex to the ht. Anyway, thanks again!
@Chris Trouten My experience way the same. I found that if you can hear then repeater with your handheld [dualband] then it best to use Lock-Band over Cross-Band. They will never know otherwise. Don't forget a DSC code to prohibit inadvertent transmissions. You probably know this by now though. *grin*
It seems that using simplex on the UHF side would allow or cause anyone on that UHF channel (such as someone replying to you on UHF) to be repeated on the VHF side and therefore through the main repeater. This third party UHF ham may not know he or she is being retransmitted. Shouldn't the UHF side be setup between the mobile and the HT as a repeater with a tone to prevent accidental cross band repeating?
That would be a best practice, I think -- I'd recommend it. A casual listener on the UHF frequency who replied would then not have his transmission cross-band repeated by the Kenwood, and therefore would not go out over the main repeater. That still wouldn't stop someone from detecting the tone in use and using it themselves... but then, that'd hardly be an "accident".
ELiTE_OpTiic The tmv71a can repeat in the same bands i.e. vhf-vhf uhf-uhf or vhf-uhf uhf-vhf . Kenwood calls each side "band" as well. so it is crossing the bands (each side) regardless of which band (vhf,uhf) The issue with it is that using the ID goes across both sides. so, if you are going to a repeater, your ID will be broadcast on that other repeater. there are ways around that but can be problematic. This is another thing that wasnt stated in the manual.
+Don Willis +ELiTE_OpTiic This is incorrect info - crossband repeat is V to U or U to V; the radio CANNOT simultaneously receive and transmit on the same band (VHF or UHF). There is an A side and B side to the radio but the crossband is referring to VHF > UHF or UHF > VHF. I know the comment was a year ago but I just wanted to clarify that. The part about the ID being broadcast to the repeater as well seems to be true and is unfortunate as it ticks people off but is a design issue from Kenwood.
+ELiTE_OpTiic Not sure about that; I would imagine it would have to go through a controller as I am pretty certain the radios are not setup to do this on their own (make a repeater). Also, see my correction to the incorrect info you were given several months ago by another responder; not sure where he got that but it isn't true at all.
You used the "B" word! I never say that I'm "Broadcasting"!!!!! I always say "transmitting"! Broadcasting is STRICTLY prohibited on the Amateur bands. (It is a constant source of wonder to me that so many "Hams" seem to think those 2 words are interchangeable!!!!!)
I want to thank you for the video. I been wanting to do this, and I tend to take my time when trying something "new" with the radio. The other night, once I got it setup, I was able to check into my local, from my bed, with the radio on the other side of the room. 73 KC0KM
Thank you sir. Trying to get cross band working on my new TM-V71 and you saved me a lot of time trying to figure it out. 73, KB1MAU
The TM-V71a is an awesome radio. I use the Lock-Band feature when connecting to repeaters that I can hear with the handheld. Others [picky old farts] may and have complained about the ID coming across the repeater in cross-band mode.
The most important thing you forgot to mention is if for any reason something opens your squelch on uhf you are now jamming that two meter repeater. Always use pl when cross banding. And always use low power on your control Chanel.
Excellent points. I'm new to this, all info very helpful. btw, correct spelling is "channel".
Control Chanel smells nice though.
What is pl? Im beginner sorry
that's cool. I just got this radio and liking it..thanks J
6:04 makes me want that radio because of the internal ID "DE AF5DN"! I use the cross-band repeater on the TS-2000 all the time and it needs an ID (I'm using an external controller).
Also the morse code at 7:15 says "K5SLD ARLINGTON ARC".
This was awesome - thanks very much for the video!
My mind is blown. Thanks!
Just got a TM-V71a, Thanks for the info.
73's
I had my TM-V71A in crossband mode and I heard my CW call on my HT that was on 70cm. However, I also received notification that my CW call was broadcasting on the 2M repeater that I was crossbanding to. Any ideas on why it's transmitting my call on both frequencies and not only the 70cm frequency I was using on my HT?
I'll add another thumbs up for an excellent video from you. Thanks! Does the auto ID only xmt when rig is put into crossband rpt mode? I'd hate to have it go into xmt on the bench someday without an antenna connected because I forgot to turn OFF the menu selection 406.
Nice vid, thanks. Makes me consider going for my license (gave up on the idea back when morse was still a requirement due to some of the locals behavior). Is that mobile able to be split? If so it would be a good competitor by the looks to the Alinco DR635T I think the model was that I was looking at getting.
Nice video, I have a question about the TMV71A. I have one and I cannot figure out how to make the A and B bands separate. I just want 2m on band A and 440 on band B. I don't want to see any 440 on band A when I scan on band A I know it can be done because I have seen it before. I want to scan both bands separately. Do you know how to do this? Thanks, W7DSE.
Do you need an offset or tone on the control channel? (70cm side)
Do you know how to access the extended receive frequencies? Like the 800 mHz?
Thank you. Very clear explanation
Thanks for the tutorial.
Hi there AF5DN very informative video. I have the Kenwood Tm-D710GA and was wondering if you new if my radio has the auto announce feature? I would like to set it up to send via morse.
Thanks for the reply.
DV3LGL,can you use the PTT of TM VT71A while in crossband mode?thanks
Does the control channel side need to be on Low power?
MeOnTech Regarding the morse ID, does it only xmit it on the simplex side you're using between your ht and the mobile or does it also xmit it out on the repeater (or frequency) that is on the other side?
Late to the party but just set mine up with xband. Might be a dumb question but does the radio only broadcast the cw ID on the “control” channel?
Very good explanation and video...much appreciated! 73 Tony KD2HYA
Kool. Thanks for posting.
Awesome tutorial...thanks. 73s
Great vid. Thanks!
Well done video! Thank you
No one ever talks about "cross band assist" mode. If you can hear the repeater direct from your HT why go full cross band? The other plus is that you don't have to wait for the repeater to drop to transmit on the HT.
nice setup
cool transceiver, i want it, but i'm going to wait for the next version or a newer transceiver that has this repeater feature built in
What do you mean 'a newer transceiver that has this repeater feature built in'?
All V71's have this feature, along with the Yeasu 8800/8900.
The 'new' version of the V71 has had the 'remote' option deleted when using X Band Repeat function. By getting a 'newer' version of the V71, you are actually getting a less optioned unit
Hi Folks...Great videos. I set up the Morse IDer. Problem is ...in crossband repeat mode MY ID goes over the local repeater as well. Is there a way to set up the ID to just transmit on the UHF simplex side only? Thanks. 73 all. Oh ya...great RADIO too.
To keep it legal, the radio would have to ID on both bands, as it is transmitting on both bands.
I have owned this radio for aprox 5 years now. It has broken twice now, first was the fuse that is common to blow and is slightly larger than a grain of salt on the third level circuit board. The fuse was replaced. Now about a year later the speaker won't work, anyone have any ideas? POS don't buy one, or keep in bubble wrap surrounded by pillows...
well done, thx for this video vy 73 DO3MY
Also, does the V71 use CW to ID on both bands? Or just on the 440 band in your example? Thnks!
both bands, I found out the hard way.
I am new to the ham world, what is a crossband repeater ??
Muchas gracias por su explicación, por favor podría hacer un vídeo de como instalamos el radio para echolink.
Hello David!....Is ARLINGTON RPT is VHF and left frequency UHF? What about cross band same VHF? Because I am planning to buy the unit and using it only for 2 m. only....73 de Edgar DV3SJM
I know you asked this 6 months ago but...crossband repeat is just that: crossband. Meaning, vhf to uhf or uhf to vhf. You can't use the same band on both sides, sorry.
Great video, thanks for posting. Some local elmers were telling me that I shouldn't cross band repeat into a repeater... but to use it strictly for simplex. What are your thoughts on that?
Hogwash. What you shouldn't do is foul up the local repeater by transmitting a bunch of garbage into it. Cross band repeating gives you lots of extra ways to do just that. However, if you're doing it properly (choose proper frequencies, setup PL tones, set your squelch properly, etc.) then using a setup like this to get into the repeater cleanly while wandering around with just a low power HT is a perfectly valid thing to do.
Matt Heere thanks for your input!
Coming back with another question for clarification. If like in the example video... multiple users set up CWID from their crossbanding mobile... isn't it plausible that the repeater gets spammed with CW ID's all day long? If I were the repeater operator, I wouldn't want that tying up the machine all day. Again, just curious and thanks in advance.
Thank you de LZ3YG....!!!!
someone told me if you put one vhf repeater and one uhf repeater in cross band repeat in wont lock up the radio is this true
Good video.
MeOnTech does your Morse code identifier output to the repeater you are transmitting to every ten minutes or just out on the uhf simplex frequency?
edhead35 Same thing I was wondering. I had asked this a couple of months ago but have received no reply as of yet. MeOnTech Do you know?
*****
Thanks for that info. This is what I was afraid of and why I was apprehensive to have that feature on. I know other users of the local repeater don't want to hear my call transmitted in CW every 10 minutes. Not sure why they made it that way; seems it should only transmit it on the side you're using for simplex to the ht. Anyway, thanks again!
+Chris Trouten not considered "good amateur practice" but FCC required?
I just did this. It does spam the repeater with your call. Luckily no one seems to be around today to yell at me.
@Chris Trouten My experience way the same. I found that if you can hear then repeater with your handheld [dualband] then it best to use Lock-Band over Cross-Band. They will never know otherwise. Don't forget a DSC code to prohibit inadvertent transmissions. You probably know this by now though. *grin*
It seems that using simplex on the UHF side would allow or cause anyone on that UHF channel (such as someone replying to you on UHF) to be repeated on the VHF side and therefore through the main repeater. This third party UHF ham may not know he or she is being retransmitted. Shouldn't the UHF side be setup between the mobile and the HT as a repeater with a tone to prevent accidental cross band repeating?
That would be a best practice, I think -- I'd recommend it. A casual listener on the UHF frequency who replied would then not have his transmission cross-band repeated by the Kenwood, and therefore would not go out over the main repeater. That still wouldn't stop someone from detecting the tone in use and using it themselves... but then, that'd hardly be an "accident".
Does anyone know if 2 of these radios hooked together will same-band repeat?
ELiTE_OpTiic The tmv71a can repeat in the same bands i.e. vhf-vhf uhf-uhf or vhf-uhf uhf-vhf . Kenwood calls each side "band" as well. so it is crossing the bands (each side) regardless of which band (vhf,uhf) The issue with it is that using the ID goes across both sides. so, if you are going to a repeater, your ID will be broadcast on that other repeater. there are ways around that but can be problematic. This is another thing that wasnt stated in the manual.
+Don Willis +ELiTE_OpTiic This is incorrect info - crossband repeat is V to U or U to V; the radio CANNOT simultaneously receive and transmit on the same band (VHF or UHF). There is an A side and B side to the radio but the crossband is referring to VHF > UHF or UHF > VHF. I know the comment was a year ago but I just wanted to clarify that. The part about the ID being broadcast to the repeater as well seems to be true and is unfortunate as it ticks people off but is a design issue from Kenwood.
+ELiTE_OpTiic Not sure about that; I would imagine it would have to go through a controller as I am pretty certain the radios are not setup to do this on their own (make a repeater). Also, see my correction to the incorrect info you were given several months ago by another responder; not sure where he got that but it isn't true at all.
Missed 403 crossband
Danke von Do9thg. 73
thank LED light does not drain much, all LED, thats not saving power, much better ifthe power tx is rlowered
cool one ! clear info.
i just picked this need to do lot of messing :-) 73s. vu3epd.
why not use a solder sucker
You used the "B" word!
I never say that I'm "Broadcasting"!!!!!
I always say "transmitting"!
Broadcasting is STRICTLY prohibited on the Amateur bands.
(It is a constant source of wonder to me that so many "Hams" seem to think those 2 words are interchangeable!!!!!)
Ohhhhh c'mon....