That victory dance of sorts at the end was delightful :D I'm now beginning to believe you'll get the whole lot done WELL before I get Map21 finished. You beautiful man.
Amen IG - And regarding this level - so many people on the Forum, in Discords, and the community in general had doubts this was a "maxable" level - no surprise ZM did it. Props to him, and props to you for the wonder of Sunder. @Zero Master - GG! Great accomplishment!
@@respectfulremastersbymetal8336 OSHA did indeed make a trip to this rotten, wooden necropolis. However their trip proved to be, (perhaps ironically), fatal. I'm not sure if this was on order of the King who had the place built or perhaps those loyal to him doing their best to cover up the many other OSHA violations present.
Holy shit you did it. One minute in and I'm already laughing, escaping the first trap and then carefully walking back around the ledge was a hilarious FU to this monster of a map. Overall I think this map is very diverse and is the perfect representation of Sunder in one level. Cramped fights, platforming, caco clouds, the grand building reminding of maps to come, and even the unexpected "house of horrors" in the middle - the Gnarled King has it all (the only thing it lacks is Hive mothers). After the extremely unwelcoming start I expected it to be the bitchiest map I ever played, but it got a bit better, some of the fights I'd even call easy, and in the grand building Insane_Gazebo even allows you to cheat and clean the next room full of pinkies through a window, must've been mapping on his birthday or something. In the end I was deeply impressed. Every cloud fight (3 of them!) was a major bitch though, so probably the second worst map after MAP19 lol. Huge respect for this run and the whole Sunder series as a whole.
Thank you very much for another quick and amazing upload! Keep them coming, i hope Karl Jobst makes a proper documentary on you. Karl Jobst is the only guy who goes Knee Deep Into His Research to get the facts and details, covering as much as possible, so he's pretty much the only person who would make a proper documentary a real treat to absolutely everyone with even a (Commander) Keen interest in Doom.
@@nickd3157 Well obviously everybody knows that, but i'm talking about a proper documentary about the man himself not for the sake of specific achievements but everything overall. Since he hasn't covered his entire TAS achievements, or out of classic wads except for nuts.wad
Honestly... The map is what it is, but 2hrs at WR pace for a single map consisting of dozens of consecutive arenas... I really wonder why they weren't made as an episode or cut shorter... As is, it's impractical at best, and terribly repetitive and a drag to watch and play at worst...
"I wonder how did Zeromaster clear that arena that caused me great trouble during my playthrough" *triggers switch through wall and leaves the door open* "alright then"
This is what i hate about these sunder maps playthroughs. Playing first time with save, having issue with rooms only to see this guy cheese and abuse wad bugs. Oh you have to be stuck in small room against spawning enemies? Just abuse glitch and leave area lmao ..... Is this chillax level wad then? No abuse = impossible to do no saves?
5:35 - oh that classic moment of "which one to dodge, oh wait, maybe I can go between them", with total of 130 dmg rolls :) At this point saying I didn't expect You can and will do it would be a lie, so just huge gratz!
15:30 is when the map stops fucking around. Zeromaster makes so many of these sections look easy, but anyone who has played this map knows, the odds are so god damn against you, it's hard to even believe. Everything from the platforming, to face rockets, to the claustrophobic fights will keep you on your toes at all times.
Over 2 hours of madness! This is mindblowing how much work you put into this! Awesome work! I also can't imagine how scared were demons to fight ZM Slayer himself 😉
I don't really like this level, but this run is nothing short of incredible! Huge congrats on finishing this monstrosity, and I wish you good luck with the next Sunder levels! :)
It’s crazy, right? Grinding for an hour and a half then suddenly die to a random cloud of cacos ☠️ In moments like these I can really get a glimpse of how hard this playthrough really is 😵💫
Absolutely amazing that you uv max these beasts of sunder. And love the strategies you find to make some fights relatively easier like the first big indoor fight by skipping it and killing the archviles first.
Tactical genius. Never would have thought it was possible to get this far without ripping your hair out with out dying. He’s a true doom god. This is just icing on the cake…on top of all of his achievements. Well done.
Never saw anything so formidable, awe-inspiring and yet depressing like Sunder's maps 11, 15, 31, 32 and the rest of the updated release - in any game I played in my life ever. And I mean that in a good and artistic way.
Seeing this….now I think this mad lad may actually max map 19 😳 something I didn’t think was possible honestly. But this is why he’s considered a god among Doom players….
What a big map! All in one single segment as well! So many ways it could have gone wrong, with being killed in the fights and with falling into one of those inescapable pits (especially in the middle of rooms full of monsters). Yet you made it without choking the whole run. I can't imagine what would've happened if you died 10 minutes from the exit.
I just can't get my head over the map structure. Not only this one but all of the newer Sunder maps. I created a few maps already but they're nowhere close comparing to these. The amount of time to create this map must be insane.
I appreciate how the very last Baron got punched out, taking a little extra time just for style points. Similarly, I'm thankful for the brief pause at the end to take one last look at the city - this WAD is a work of art.
I dont think people realize how hard this (and next level) last figths are without doing the trick at 1:29:41 And the strategic monsters placement at 1:30:18 and 1:34:28. Its literally impossible to do that single segment INMO, is there even a video of someone doing that without exploiting the monsters AI single segment?
@@Legatron17 Sure, on the first time 1:29:41 he is gaining acceleration so he can do a line skip, meaning that the square at the midle of the room eill close the huge door south, he avoids that by doing some genius cleaver movement. That way he can go outside. Then at the second timming 1:30:18 he is going into a corner, making all monsters mobe to the player, because AI is programmed this way, making him capeable of shooting the monsters from that cage. Third time 1:34:28 is the same principle as second time, exploiting monsters AI. It can seem very dull, but trust me, that fight is borderline impossible without that. Genius.
@@marcelopardo4791 Thanks for explaining that. I always thought that room was the scariest, it would be near impossible to kill all those cacos in that catwalk space.
I've started using Block Monsters lines on precarious ledges a lot more to prevent the annoyance of monsters falling off. Obviously, this doesn't work well when you want to mix flyers in the fight, but it's a nice quality of life checkbox for the players otherwise.
1:35:27 i really wanted to see how well you would do in this area. I watched someone else play this same map about a year ago and it took them two hours and a number of deaths to get through that one massive area and enemy cloud.
On this map he just told about the balance-less with the map between the monsters and the ammos. He bet you cannot pass it and have the old Mega-WAD of Sunder. But now on your video you proved us it like a bullshit.
This method helps keep the map looking clean (no boxes lying every couple of feet) in addition to saving time for having to go around and pick up individual boxes. Nowadays, thousands of monsters in a map is not uncommon, so the mappers stack 3, 5, or even 10 boxes of rockets for convenience as well as aesthetics.
It would've been even more hilarious if he had grabbed that berserk pack and then went back to punch the final baron out. Especially since it never really gets used and gazebo putting it at the end is kind of like a joke or a big f.u. to the player -- so, to actually make use of it would be pretty funny.
@@robowisanveithasung6022 Actually, I got it running on my old laptop. Runs pretty well too. It's insanely hard though. Even more than the vanilla Doom version.
@@robowisanveithasung6022 The fights arent that big. It would be problematic if more monsters at once would be active (like 500+ at once). But on this map its the size which makes it lots of monsters, but the individual fights arent thaaat huge.
Hey Zero Master, you're unbelievably fast and good in this unbelievably good Game. Congratulations my man, really cool ! Hey friend, where can i download this game for free and safe ? Or buy it for a good price of course ? Thanks for showing your great skills to us. Really awesome !
Usually map makers put teleporters there, so players can get back up but not in Sunder. One false step and the run would be over which is one of the reason why it is so impressive.
In fact you *must* use source ports to play Sunder, as the levels are so large that the original Doom engine cannot load them. They use a special nodes format in order to have more than 65535 of what are called "segs" (short for line segments).
![Doom II Death in Excess - Map 16 UV-MAX [TAS] in 54:34](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EMEX2ROEcPk/mqdefault.jpg)
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![Sunder: Map 16 - Whispers of the Gnarled King [TAS] in 59:28](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/7YsZpSj-zTE/mqdefault.jpg)
This series is better than 99% of Netflix.
True. But then, that bar is getting lower by the day. 😁
I genuinely get excited when theres a new one and I am dreading the end
@@dougcarey2233 Right?! And the prices are going up!
This is a Netflix and chill I'd be all over
Because it’s all genuine and has no other bullshit.
That victory dance of sorts at the end was delightful :D
I'm now beginning to believe you'll get the whole lot done WELL before I get Map21 finished. You beautiful man.
Amen IG - And regarding this level - so many people on the Forum, in Discords, and the community in general had doubts this was a "maxable" level - no surprise ZM did it. Props to him, and props to you for the wonder of Sunder.
@Zero Master - GG! Great accomplishment!
So you're the one responsible for this? I believe OSHA would like to have a word about the lack of hand rails.
@@respectfulremastersbymetal8336 OSHA did indeed make a trip to this rotten, wooden necropolis.
However their trip proved to be, (perhaps ironically), fatal.
I'm not sure if this was on order of the King who had the place built or perhaps those loyal to him doing their best to cover up the many other OSHA violations present.
@@insanegazebo best get on with it then slowpoke ;-p
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I love how beautiful these newer megawads look. Just fantastic architecture, organic textures and so much atmosphere. Great music in this one too.
Holy shit you did it. One minute in and I'm already laughing, escaping the first trap and then carefully walking back around the ledge was a hilarious FU to this monster of a map.
Overall I think this map is very diverse and is the perfect representation of Sunder in one level. Cramped fights, platforming, caco clouds, the grand building reminding of maps to come, and even the unexpected "house of horrors" in the middle - the Gnarled King has it all (the only thing it lacks is Hive mothers). After the extremely unwelcoming start I expected it to be the bitchiest map I ever played, but it got a bit better, some of the fights I'd even call easy, and in the grand building Insane_Gazebo even allows you to cheat and clean the next room full of pinkies through a window, must've been mapping on his birthday or something. In the end I was deeply impressed. Every cloud fight (3 of them!) was a major bitch though, so probably the second worst map after MAP19 lol. Huge respect for this run and the whole Sunder series as a whole.
Interesting, I've read other posts of people saying that MAP19 is the second worst after MAP16, I guess they are both alot of fun to play
Thank you very much for another quick and amazing upload! Keep them coming, i hope Karl Jobst makes a proper documentary on you.
Karl Jobst is the only guy who goes Knee Deep Into His Research to get the facts and details, covering as much as possible, so he's pretty much the only person who would make a proper documentary a real treat to absolutely everyone with even a (Commander) Keen interest in Doom.
He has covered zeromaster quite a bit.
@@nickd3157 Well obviously everybody knows that, but i'm talking about a proper documentary about the man himself not for the sake of specific achievements but everything overall. Since he hasn't covered his entire TAS achievements, or out of classic wads except for nuts.wad
This is wild!! The greatest.
I like how you said quick...its a 2 hour 100% slaughter run
@@jaymxu Didn’t he already do one about ZM called “The Greatest Doom Player of All Time” or did I hallucinate that? lol
I will never cease to be baffled by how astonishing and grand sunder can be and how easy you make the run look
This series is a dream come true. I’ll never stop being enchanted by what this community is capable of.
This one level is longer than some of the top times for DOOM Eternal Ultra-Nightmare 100% for the ENTIRE GAME!
This is nuts…
No, it’s Sunder 😃
Honestly... The map is what it is, but 2hrs at WR pace for a single map consisting of dozens of consecutive arenas...
I really wonder why they weren't made as an episode or cut shorter...
As is, it's impractical at best, and terribly repetitive and a drag to watch and play at worst...
@@guillermojperea6355 that's what slaughter is, you don't jump into sunder expecting short fights or maps
@@CarmeloSantosF ... Except that the previous "original" maps were AT MOST 30 minutes long
Is that the Gnarled King at 2:09:45???
Love that Nuts joke, wish I could use it in a conversation
"I wonder how did Zeromaster clear that arena that caused me great trouble during my playthrough"
*triggers switch through wall and leaves the door open*
"alright then"
Same here lmao
same
This is what i hate about these sunder maps playthroughs. Playing first time with save, having issue with rooms only to see this guy cheese and abuse wad bugs. Oh you have to be stuck in small room against spawning enemies? Just abuse glitch and leave area lmao .....
Is this chillax level wad then? No abuse = impossible to do no saves?
He is a man of focus, commitment, and sheer f--king will.
5:35 - oh that classic moment of "which one to dodge, oh wait, maybe I can go between them", with total of 130 dmg rolls :)
At this point saying I didn't expect You can and will do it would be a lie, so just huge gratz!
Don't forget almost right after that, the imp fireball that seemingly hits him and does no damage. That was pretty lucky.
I have never been so early. Just started watching! Keep up the amazing speedruns, Zero!!
15:30 is when the map stops fucking around. Zeromaster makes so many of these sections look easy, but anyone who has played this map knows, the odds are so god damn against you, it's hard to even believe. Everything from the platforming, to face rockets, to the claustrophobic fights will keep you on your toes at all times.
Over 2 hours of madness! This is mindblowing how much work you put into this! Awesome work! I also can't imagine how scared were demons to fight ZM Slayer himself 😉
I don't really like this level, but this run is nothing short of incredible! Huge congrats on finishing this monstrosity, and I wish you good luck with the next Sunder levels! :)
Man, that supercharge at 1:55 sure must have felt good! Nice run, really great stuff!
Thank god, at last new video. My withdrawal syndrome was getting out of hand. Love your vids!
00:08
Demons: "We have you trapped, human. You will die by our hands!"
Zero Master: "A'ight, Imma head out."
That wall skip in the first minute, chef's kiss
Just absolutely insane. Well played!
Absolutely astonishing that you got this one done so quickly. I haven’t watched it yet, but just wanted to say you’re the master, Zero(Master) :D
It’s so fun watching you dominate. Punching out the final baron is a great touch lol.
As a french, I new saw so much cheese in one game! :D Well done!
This was supremely entertaining. Your skill at this game is incredible. Thank you!
Well played m8, second hardest current Sunder map defeated.
Good luck with Map 19 when you get there down the line. Cheers.
Punching that final Baron is just icing on the cake!
Wow. I really, truly thought this map was gonna be a dead end for new sequence breaks. Bravo.
1:34:15 Dammit ZM, I paid for my whole seat and because of you I'm only using the edge of it
It’s crazy, right? Grinding for an hour and a half then suddenly die to a random cloud of cacos ☠️
In moments like these I can really get a glimpse of how hard this playthrough really is 😵💫
Just outstanding skills...
Keep on rotting Zero Master.
Greetings from Germany.
Wow, so many skips and cheeses on this run. You made that map looks easy. Very well done! It was nearly 1 month for me to beat it :|
That proves you positively beat it legit 👍 I can't do it without saves
That last kill. When you stop caring too much about time and want to end in style.
Absolutely amazing that you uv max these beasts of sunder. And love the strategies you find to make some fights relatively easier like the first big indoor fight by skipping it and killing the archviles first.
I swear ZM will go down as one of the best video game players ever.
Also can we appreciate the ambient music here? Holy crap.
Tactical genius. Never would have thought it was possible to get this far without ripping your hair out with out dying. He’s a true doom god. This is just icing on the cake…on top of all of his achievements. Well done.
That rocket adjustment at 5:45 haha, nice
Informative. Useful. Calming. Inspiring. Life-changing. Enjoyable. Heart-warming. Other.
Incredible, just say incredible! You The Artist!
Never saw anything so formidable, awe-inspiring and yet depressing like Sunder's maps 11, 15, 31, 32 and the rest of the updated release - in any game I played in my life ever. And I mean that in a good and artistic way.
Seeing this….now I think this mad lad may actually max map 19 😳 something I didn’t think was possible honestly. But this is why he’s considered a god among Doom players….
What a big map! All in one single segment as well! So many ways it could have gone wrong, with being killed in the fights and with falling into one of those inescapable pits (especially in the middle of rooms full of monsters). Yet you made it without choking the whole run. I can't imagine what would've happened if you died 10 minutes from the exit.
F’ing amazing dude!
Love watching these!
Great run and I love that you punched out the last one lol!
53:28 That Pinkie sure loves eating air!
Absolutely incredible.
This is one of the most *intimidating* maps to UV max. I think map19 is even more insane. Few can even beat the 2019 - present Sunder maps saveless
35:45 I actually laughed at how out of nowhere that facerocket came.
I just can't get my head over the map structure. Not only this one but all of the newer Sunder maps. I created a few maps already but they're nowhere close comparing to these. The amount of time to create this map must be insane.
This is just madness
Waiting for Map 19 and from Kinetic too. Saw his latest stream and man... dying after 77-80 minutes in. Completely brutal.
No BFG given until an hour and a half in! Brutal mapping, InsaneGazebo!
That rocket at 43:16 hilarious 😂😂😂🤣
I appreciate how the very last Baron got punched out, taking a little extra time just for style points. Similarly, I'm thankful for the brief pause at the end to take one last look at the city - this WAD is a work of art.
what a time to be alive!
btw, what is your favourite map of sunder? the more enjoyable one?
I dunno, I really like most of them.. maybe map08 or maybe one of the latest ones but I need to max them first to see how I feel about them, heh.
Gets last kill by punching the Baron out. Dude!
What a madlad!
I still can't believe how effortless you make it look. Any chance of a keyboard cam one day?
This video is better than Marvel movie now
2:11:24 - they're just numbers, but a helluva lot of 'em
First thing, press like, second read the description, last sit back and enjoy the show, that's what I do to your every sunder run.
what a grind! you almost lost it a couple of times. I can see why Decino doesn't want to do this series. such a grind
Found you after watching Karl jobst. Epic skills bro
8:44 yes... This is much better than my approach to this God awful room!
absolute mad lad
1:54:53 When you are clinching your buttocks saying "please god dont make me start the video again and do all of that again, please god 😖"
I dont think people realize how hard this (and next level) last figths are without doing the trick at 1:29:41 And the strategic monsters placement at 1:30:18 and 1:34:28. Its literally impossible to do that single segment INMO, is there even a video of someone doing that without exploiting the monsters AI single segment?
Can you explain what exactly is even happening in those sections?
@@Legatron17 Sure, on the first time 1:29:41 he is gaining acceleration so he can do a line skip, meaning that the square at the midle of the room eill close the huge door south, he avoids that by doing some genius cleaver movement. That way he can go outside. Then at the second timming 1:30:18 he is going into a corner, making all monsters mobe to the player, because AI is programmed this way, making him capeable of shooting the monsters from that cage. Third time 1:34:28 is the same principle as second time, exploiting monsters AI. It can seem very dull, but trust me, that fight is borderline impossible without that. Genius.
@@marcelopardo4791 Thanks for explaining that. I always thought that room was the scariest, it would be near impossible to kill all those cacos in that catwalk space.
They finally gave him a BFG, yes!
Wait a second,
they finally gave him a BFG...
uh oh...
I've started using Block Monsters lines on precarious ledges a lot more to prevent the annoyance of monsters falling off. Obviously, this doesn't work well when you want to mix flyers in the fight, but it's a nice quality of life checkbox for the players otherwise.
1:35:27 i really wanted to see how well you would do in this area. I watched someone else play this same map about a year ago and it took them two hours and a number of deaths to get through that one massive area and enemy cloud.
Great last "touch"... :D
Congrats! How many attempts roughly did it take you?
That was bonkers.
This map looks like hell in a handbasket.
Dont need a movie tonight! -D hær bi så jævli bra :) NAIS
Zero Master, I must to say Decino made a live-stream and he mention that even you can't to pass map16, but you proved him else!
On this map he just told about the balance-less with the map between the monsters and the ammos. He bet you cannot pass it and have the old Mega-WAD of Sunder. But now on your video you proved us it like a bullshit.
Excellent to watch….. any reason why every rocket box had 15 ammo? Or 3 normal boxes on top of each other?
This method helps keep the map looking clean (no boxes lying every couple of feet) in addition to saving time for having to go around and pick up individual boxes. Nowadays, thousands of monsters in a map is not uncommon, so the mappers stack 3, 5, or even 10 boxes of rockets for convenience as well as aesthetics.
Zero Master's catalogue became my Netflix before bedtime. PS: Just to be clear, not because the videos are boring, obviously.
Punching out the last Baron was the only way to properly finish the level.
It would've been even more hilarious if he had grabbed that berserk pack and then went back to punch the final baron out. Especially since it never really gets used and gazebo putting it at the end is kind of like a joke or a big f.u. to the player -- so, to actually make use of it would be pretty funny.
Awesome gameplay. How do you think this translates with Project Brutality or Embers of Armageddon? Or is this strictly a vanilla Doom wad?
I've never tried them so I have no idea.
it's pretty much impossible to play this map in Project Brutality, your computer might as well be fried chicken
@@robowisanveithasung6022 Actually, I got it running on my old laptop. Runs pretty well too. It's insanely hard though. Even more than the vanilla Doom version.
@@dougcarey2233 what a surprise then!
@@robowisanveithasung6022 The fights arent that big. It would be problematic if more monsters at once would be active (like 500+ at once). But on this map its the size which makes it lots of monsters, but the individual fights arent thaaat huge.
1:02:15 poor door, was there a reason to rocket it?
holy cow, he found a way to cheese right from the start!!!!
Mad man
17:20 lol. Lucky it didn't kill him. Almost no armor... I felt that brief pause...like bruh.
What the F@ck am only at 19 minutes and need a ECG monitor or 10 bottles of Lucazade, madness and pure delight.
Hey Zero Master, you're unbelievably fast and good in this unbelievably good Game. Congratulations my man, really cool ! Hey friend, where can i download this game for free and safe ? Or buy it for a good price of course ? Thanks for showing your great skills to us. Really awesome !
The holes in the floor => I take it that dropping down the holes is not good?
Usually map makers put teleporters there, so players can get back up but not in Sunder. One false step and the run would be over which is one of the reason why it is so impressive.
That's a lot of cacodemons.
You didnt see the caco cloud in "holy hell" yet then :D THATs what you can call a lot tomatoes :D
Oh shit, 2 Hours !!!
Didn't sound like much fun for you so am I safe to say you won't revisit this map to optimize? Amazing run btw!!
1:59:32 scammed
This should be entertaining. I will go ahead and gronk-spike the like button. Wait.. that's not right. I will zero press the like button.
Zero Master IS the Gnarled King
Just wondering, how many attempts did this take?
Can someone tell me the difference in running sunder in dsda compared to gz as that’s the source port i usually use but I wanna try other ports
"the level isn't that hard" the level:
I wanted to go to sleep dude.... nooooo
How long did it take for you to get a successful run on this map?
I recognize this midi track. Can't quite put my finger on where else I've heard it from before. Feels like it's from Blood.
Zero Master and chill
How did you play with 4K resolution and this game was made in the 1990s
what did you use to enhance the resolution. answer me plz
There are programms called source ports made by the community, "Zdoom" is the most used one.
In fact you *must* use source ports to play Sunder, as the levels are so large that the original Doom engine cannot load them. They use a special nodes format in order to have more than 65535 of what are called "segs" (short for line segments).
21:45 - poor armor miss - i thought :-(
but 21:53 - MS :-D