Leviathan: We are the greatest organics ever, we ruled the galaxy. But our thralls kept building machines that wiped them out Shepherd: So what did you do? Also Leviathan: We built a machine that wiped us out Shepherd: That's stupid... Still Leviathan: YoU arE A LeSsEr RaCE
Shepherd: "Ya know, the Citadel Council and the Systems Alliance both made AI illegal for this very reason. And your own hubris won't allow you to admit that making the Reapers was a horrible idea, to begin with. That's a telltale sign of a stagnated civilization and society, so maybe we don't need your damn help..." Leviathan: "You are bleeding out of your sinus cavity." Shepherd: "Yeah, and I've probably messed my pants, too. But pay attention, here!"
“Before the cycles our kind was the apex of life in the galaxy” that line always gives me shivers, it’s like you’re talking to a galactic god that shaped the universe
Doctors recommend not to fly the same day you go to scuba dive, and here you have Shepard going from the deepest ocean to space in a matter of minutes.
@@Democritus8181 No, you'd just die from nitrogen bubbles wreaking havoc on your organs. A relatively quick death compared to what nature tends to have in store for us.
I always felt this DLC and this moment saved ME3 for me. It made the ending more meaningful and filled in the gaps of knowledge that I felt were missing from the original ending.
Ultimately in the end everything you do is still meaningless which sucks, after playing Leviathan the first time I expected to see him and his buddies flying in with the rest of the fleet in the final battle but I guess nah
Leviathan: “We are a cosmic entity. We were the first great civilization, and we have watched all others after us be harvested and wither away.” Shepard: “Help me or your a bitch.” Leviathan: “Aight.”
Its difficult to really grasp how powerful this species is. They are such a primordial race, they've mastered psionics, and are so intelligent, they gave rise to the Reapers whose cycles have gone on uninterrupted for eons. Im not sure whats more chilling, the fact they are so powerful, or the fact that after creating the Reapers, they concluded despite their power, they couldn't defeat them and instead hid.
They could defeat them you can't make me believe that it has been eons and there were never people like Shepard in their time...They just waited and waited too selfish to finish it themselves continuing to believe nothing is going wrong and it's gonna work itself out like it's meant to be
They challenged the cycle, believing that they were above It, and became a victim of It like any other lesser race. The cycle in Mass Effect seems to be an universal constant that can only be brokne by synthesis, at least that's what is implied. Let's be honest, If there was another way, Harbinger would have found It at this point, there are thousands of Reapers in ME3 and apparently each one is the product of a 10,000 year cycle, we are talking about MILLIONS of years.
"You will remain here as a servant for our needs" I just like to imagine Shepard , considering his ant size in comparison to the Leviathans, serving them.
I do love how a Leviathan kinda just 1v1d a Reaper and took it down to tge watery depth without even touching them. The only weakness this apex race seems to have is their (rather justifiable), arrogance even with them nearly becoming extinct by their own creations.
Maybe it's just the flat delivery but it always sounded to me like they weren't even that miffed that they were genocided, like "aight we all dead, still gonna stick around to see how this turns out tho"
@@W4rr4X Basic logic. It's being said that there were thousaunds of cycles with an average interval of 50 thousand years. So we're talking about recolonizing the same planets for over and over again (thousands of times though). Do you remember Feros from ME1? The way prothean city looked? That's correct, 50000 years is a pretty short timing for all of those civilization ruins to erase, so they will remain still, now imagine those civilizations stacking on each other for a hundreds and hundreds times on most planets. With these intervals all planets will turn into Feros-like (completely occupated by previous civilization remains) and it will happen in 1-2 cycles, not to mention insane counts like 1000 like it's in the game lore (lol). If that's not enough - remember planets' resourses like coal, oil, element zero etc: they all take hundreds of millions years to refill while can be drained in a single cycle so the galaxy would've been resource empty after 1 or 2 cycle (again, we're talking about hundreds of them happening here). It's just a huge logic hole which can't be solved
@Kisa Vorobianinov You mean they'd harvested the whole Feros population and then just left the planet intact? No way, that's opposing your words about turning civilization traces into dust. Maybe you're talking of Ilos?
"the organics were always winding up making AIs that killed them all, so we made an AI to help us solve the problem, and the AI killed us." Leviathan was Mass Effect 3 at it's most awkward.
Likewise, I felt Leviathan took away from the story by overexplaining. It took the mysterious and unknowable origin of the Reapers and turned it into something boring and mundane.
Mass effect version of lovecraftian gods. Love the concept of such a creature and would of loved to see them during the final fight. How cool would it have been to have harbinger arrive to attack Shepard but only to have the leviathans suddenly control the other Reaper ships and turn them against harbinger.
@@aaronbernath3554 thinking about it, ME4 could start with that. shepard slowly crawling out of the rubble years later after the events just to find the galaxy being enslaved by leviathans
I didnt know that this was a dlc when i first played me3. i still dont know why javik and leviathan was dlc because both of them where so much important for the entire story.
I have been consistently boycotting EA for the past 10 years in protest against their abusive practices. I broke this boycott to buy ME legendary edition. I dont regret it. It s a great game.
For all their power and intellect they sure derped up when creating the intelligence and the reapers Be me: Ancient timeless being with near endless psychic capabilities Be also me: create an artificial intelligence capable of adapting and evolving and making independent decisions which is also resistant to psychic manipulation. Assume it's incapable of turning against you It turns against you You hide Ind the deepest ocean in the galaxy Galaxy forgets you Start naming the deep underwater plants out of boredom Steve is a douchebag ....... Some weird soft meat, bone and water bag with vulnerable mind descends into your hole He's an intruder You haven't talked to anyone but your immediate neighbours for past couple of aeons The bone bag says your old toys are bossing the galaxy around Oops lol Bonebag says it's bs It is bs Bonebag found you despite being very early in its mental and psychic development Worst case scenario he dies, who cares Give him your balls He tossed them around galaxy He wins Consider leaving the ocean Stay because Steve would miss you
I think what people don't understand is that the Reaper's were designed as a failsafe against Galactic extinction: galactic extinction being caused by either organics creating rouge AI or machine intelligence that wanted to destroy all organic life, or a rouge organic society that grew too powerful and corrupt and threatened the lives of other organic worlds (the Leviathans unfortunately fitting into the latter category according to the catalyst(and it was probably right)). The reapers were designed to prevent that possibility from manifesting itself until they found another solution that wouldn't result in them harvesting advanced organic races. The catalyst and reapers succeed in their purpose regardless on weather or not you succeed in firing the crucible. In fact that's probably why they didn't give it their all to stop Shepard's cycle from firing the crucible, and even allowed an indoctrinated Illusive Man to bring Shepard back from the dead. Their original plan was to collect Shepard's essence to gather data like they always had and have his essence be the dominating mind of the human reaper they were building. But Liara was far more resourceful and determined then they realized and they decided to let her have Shepard rather then risk losing his genetic material. Both EDI and the Illusive Man mentioned that the reapers weren't trying their hardest to stop Shepard and the cycle. Just merely pushing his/her limits. But they also weren't just going to let them win either. If they wanted freedom from the harvest, they would have to earn it by paying in blood as they realized war is the only way organics learn or act on anything. I still choose to destroy the reapers in the end, because the dead from the previous cycles need to be put to rest. And we have to set a point that no matter how noble the cause maybe, the wages of sin is death. Nor is it ideal to make peace with an enemy that has too much blood on its hands that needs to be paid one way or the other. Perhaps in the next conflict when there's different factions that want to use the crucible again to destroy or control all synthetic life for unjustifiable reasons, is when the galaxy will finally be ready to accept synthesis and blur the line between life and machine completely.
In my mind the Synthesis ending is the one and only true ending. Completing the reapers mission to find an answer to preserve life, all life, silicon and carbon based, to end conflicts.
Here we go. There's always at least one person in the comments who think they understand everything better than everyone else, and they always feel the need to explain it.
The illusive man wasnt indoctrinated in me 2. He most likely was indoctrinated by the protoreaper or some reaper tech during his research, while Shepard was grounded on earth.
@@lukeskywalker5392 Perhaps the protoreaper furthered his indoctrination but according to "Mass Effect Evolution" he was indoctrinated by a reaper artifact he and a group of comrades found on Shanxi. The effects were VERY subtle and he still had control over his mind up until ME3.
@@somerandomguy4240 Of course! The game is THAT good and the issues surrounding the Reapers, the Leviathans, the Catalyst, and the choice you make on how to use the crucible are anything but simple. I'm just sharing what I think, doesn't mean I'm right or everyone has to agree with me.
I have never played Mass effect in my life, yet this was recommended to me. I have no idea what the game is about or what it's like. And yet even after i was thrown into a random lore section of this game, it was so interesting that i watched the whole 12 minutes.
This game series is the single greatest game I’ve ever played the gameplay was phenomenal and the characterization and customization along with the storyline and the ability to carry progress over to each sequel so engaging I love everything about this series
I still remember the chilling feeling I got when I first saw the Leviathan rising from the depths. To think, it was there from the beginning, watching over all that happened for millions of years. They have to be the oldest species in the universe. And yet, despite their observations of how other species came into conflict with synthetics, they essentially ended up doing the exact same thing. So, in a sense, they're just like every other species.
There is a mention of Leviathans in final dialogues, if you completed the DLC. Also, the knowledge of Reapers' creation didn't give any way to defeat them, so bringing that up would be kinda pointless.
What is so cool about them, they talked to shepherd through telepathy and chose forms that were easy for the human mind to recognize. It's like the Vok in transformers beast wars, scanning the mind of Optimus Primal and choosing the face of Unicorn.
As if we couldn't already see their physical bodies, it's not like there was any "alien geometries" to comprehend here. More like it was for the convenience of the viewer to not have the camera constantly zooming in and out due to the size differences.
Gotta love the texture errors they never fixed. @10:34 theres a floating "CAUTION" decal floating at the left side of the open doorway, thats supposed to be attached to the door.
Man it's really ashame these company's arent what they once were smh. Such greed! I miss when games where made by gamers for gamers. So rare to get a masterpiece today it sucks. I find as I get older it harder and harder to get into a game especially today with how the market is. Glad I lived during the pinnacle of gaming in my mind which was the super nintendo/Ps1-Ps3/Sega/Xbox-Xbox360. Was an incredible time to be a gamer. Do you guys remeber when the first Gears of war came out! Man that game was so sick.
So Harbinger is actually a dead leviathan with cybernetics. Basically leviathan husk. And all reapers are connected to Catalyst. Thats why even a reaper dies its connection to Catalyst contunies. And this is why if somebody finds reaper tech or reaper itself gets indoctrinated. Leviathan of Dis or Derelict Reaper is clear example.
Not a single dead leviathan but much of their species. They were probably turned into black paste like we saw with humans on the Collector Station in ME2. The leviathan Shepard spoke with mentioned the Intelligence used the essence of the leviathan race to create the first reaper.
I played the whole trilogy all the way through back in 2014 when I had time off from work took me two weeks all day every day I haven't played since I really need to go back and play it again
So...they created an AI machine to prevent lesser beings from creating AIs that then destroyed themselves...and then that AI machine turned on them...awesome
the reapers are implied to be more cybernetic than AI, the harvested races being made into the cells of something both machine and living at a scale more complicated than a human mind can comprehend by itself. A society made into a real being. the reapers are, essentially, a highly evolved synthesis of machine and life that understood that it’s creators had become stagnant, they peaked and couldn’t evolve past their forms. They were destroyed so the reapers could find an answer to the problem their makers very existence were attributing to.
@@coolsteve1342 yea I definitely struggle to play games that have allot of water. Even Fortnite scared me when the entire map was flooded and had sharks lol
Any decent war or battle tested society would have built in kill- switches and additional programs buried deep within the subroutines without the AI's knowledge.
"but I thought you were a reaper" "They are only echos, we existed long before" "Then what are you?" "... Something More" Fuck man I get chills every time I hear that
@@WafflyWafflez Yeah, I know, and it doesn't make sense because literally all of the others are modeled after the Leviathans... So it's like the Reapers did countless cycles and then only now decided to try a new design. I'm sure it came down to development time and money. But still..
@@joshallen4848 the core of each reaper is designed after the species it was made from, the outer shells are all made to look like harbinger. The cores also contain the consciousness of all the people used to make it, it talks about it in the synthesis ending.
@@BrandonCharlesHouser Oh yeah, that's right, I remember that. But that sounds like a way they just wrote it into the story without having to do the modeling artwork... Which makes sense cause they'd have to come up with hundreds of designs. Honestly, they should have just left out that human reaper thingy and made it a leviathan from the start.. I'd still be cool with them using humans to make it. But it's like someone pitched the human Reaper boss idea and they ok'd it but then had to work backwards while trying to write it into the story.
i'd guess they mean one new type, but numerous of them. as they show ingame the reapers are class types. although there aren't really that many unique types. They all resemble the harbinger aka the leviathan. or the "first" one. the one you see in mass effect 2 at the end being incomplete looks like a human. As humanity was picked for the new reaper. but then again, that reaper was "tiny" compared to the other classes. and killed with "simple" weapons. im not really sure what they mean.
Not all cycles manage to destroy a single Reaper, let alone dozens of them. Also, when the Leviathan says "per harvest", it's one Reaper per civilization, not cycle. So, Shepard's cycle alone would add a Reaper each for asari, batarian, salarian, krogan, turian, quarian, drell, hanar, volus, elcor, rachni... and human, which was already under construction before we blew it up. And maybe a few more unknown races. Vorcha and yahg would probably be left alone until the next cycle.
Maybe they never actually let him escape... and instead kept him there shaking on the floor writhing from visions of victory and loss no one else can see but him.
This conversation with the Leviathan is why I think the Destroy option is wrong. Destroy the Reapers and the whole galaxy becomes thralls for the Leviathans.
Maybe I’m reaching but something was touched on here. What was shepherd. The leviathan stated the galaxy was an experiment evolution it’s tool. Shepherd was more than an anomaly more than some hero. maybe shepherd was evolutions answer to the reaper’s themselves.
If only the game didn’t end is such a shitty way. The idea that some ancient civilization that defies our concept of reality, went and created an AI that morphed into a biomechanical virus was so rad. The endings should have been to take control as a independent conscience to become the mastermind behind the hivemind (from there your paragon and renegade would determine whether you enslave or aid the galaxy) or destroy and depending on your ailignment, Shepard would die or live. And a true battle with Harbinger would have been nice - something on par with the Protoreaper in ME2.
Still imo the best hero character in any game and only mortal with no fancy suit soz chief your number 2...dream team Shepard/Chief/Doomslayer/space marine and Sam Fisher.
Leviathan: We are the greatest organics ever, we ruled the galaxy. But our thralls kept building machines that wiped them out
Shepherd: So what did you do?
Also Leviathan: We built a machine that wiped us out
Shepherd: That's stupid...
Still Leviathan: YoU arE A LeSsEr RaCE
triggered rq lol
Shepherd: "Ya know, the Citadel Council and the Systems Alliance both made AI illegal for this very reason. And your own hubris won't allow you to admit that making the Reapers was a horrible idea, to begin with. That's a telltale sign of a stagnated civilization and society, so maybe we don't need your damn help..."
Leviathan: "You are bleeding out of your sinus cavity."
Shepherd: "Yeah, and I've probably messed my pants, too. But pay attention, here!"
*F U M B L I N G I N I G N O R A N C E*
That is going to be us once we create human-like A.I.
@@HarvestMoonHowl LOL
“Before the cycles our kind was the apex of life in the galaxy” that line always gives me shivers, it’s like you’re talking to a galactic god that shaped the universe
And cocked things up so badly they had to go into hiding.
@@stryletz As is Tradition for Gods in Stories.
...yet with motivations less than human.
That no God. If it act like that.. That just a simple creature
Galactic Boomers
Doctors recommend not to fly the same day you go to scuba dive, and here you have Shepard going from the deepest ocean to space in a matter of minutes.
Well... You could say because of the mech he was pressurized to above sea level the whole time.
he's also got hella cybernetics at this point
Aliens
If i did that forget the bends, i'd explode in red paste ?
@@Democritus8181 No, you'd just die from nitrogen bubbles wreaking havoc on your organs. A relatively quick death compared to what nature tends to have in store for us.
“Tribute cannot flow from a dead race”.
Chillingly eerie.
Reminds me of playing Stellaris.
I always felt this DLC and this moment saved ME3 for me. It made the ending more meaningful and filled in the gaps of knowledge that I felt were missing from the original ending.
"Yo you dying to your own synthetics? Imma build synthetics to destroy the synthetics!"
Much like Javik, the Ancients are DLC that was supposed to be part of the main story from the beginning. Screw you, EA.
Nothing can save the ending.
From Ashes and Leviatian should never have been DLC, it was just cut content behind a paywall.
Ultimately in the end everything you do is still meaningless which sucks, after playing Leviathan the first time I expected to see him and his buddies flying in with the rest of the fleet in the final battle but I guess nah
i love how for the organic reapers this is an historic moment when they decide to finally fight back but for the commander it's just another thursday.
lollllll
They Made him too OP, as a human being. This is why they should keep him dead in the next game, not that I expect him to be alive for centuries.
Shepard's true power is their brain surviving this many visions lol
nose bleed after like 20 visions, going for 30 next time
And now you know why the Commander dances like that.
Leviathan: “We are a cosmic entity. We were the first great civilization, and we have watched all others after us be harvested and wither away.”
Shepard: “Help me or your a bitch.”
Leviathan: “Aight.”
"Say less"
Shepard: _"No balls."_ 🤣
Its difficult to really grasp how powerful this species is. They are such a primordial race, they've mastered psionics, and are so intelligent, they gave rise to the Reapers whose cycles have gone on uninterrupted for eons. Im not sure whats more chilling, the fact they are so powerful, or the fact that after creating the Reapers, they concluded despite their power, they couldn't defeat them and instead hid.
They are typical shite species/government. Supposedly are/were masters of everything yet falls like house of cards to the slightest push.
It seems almost like they stayed out of morbid curiosity, like they wanted to see if over eons their tool would indeed work.
They could defeat them you can't make me believe that it has been eons and there were never people like Shepard in their time...They just waited and waited too selfish to finish it themselves continuing to believe nothing is going wrong and it's gonna work itself out like it's meant to be
They challenged the cycle, believing that they were above It, and became a victim of It like any other lesser race. The cycle in Mass Effect seems to be an universal constant that can only be brokne by synthesis, at least that's what is implied. Let's be honest, If there was another way, Harbinger would have found It at this point, there are thousands of Reapers in ME3 and apparently each one is the product of a 10,000 year cycle, we are talking about MILLIONS of years.
@@bigbangrafa8435 there weren't a fooking Cycle before they made Reapers. Stop talking nonsense.
"You will remain here as a servant for our needs"
I just like to imagine Shepard , considering his ant size in comparison to the Leviathans, serving them.
Wearing a fancy butler suit. Or, in the mech, painted like a fancy butler.
@@ANMS.cyberpunk With one of those twirly moustaches
Gay
@@manilodang534 looking at you i mean the Westworld really fucked up people's mentality at this point
But how? His exo suit was already beeping.
I do love how a Leviathan kinda just 1v1d a Reaper and took it down to tge watery depth without even touching them. The only weakness this apex race seems to have is their (rather justifiable), arrogance even with them nearly becoming extinct by their own creations.
LMAO: they built their own SkyNet
Maybe it's just the flat delivery but it always sounded to me like they weren't even that miffed that they were genocided, like "aight we all dead, still gonna stick around to see how this turns out tho"
@@dsdy1205 Life and death might be a completely different concept to them.
Such a powerful moment in the series right up there with the conversations with Sovereign & Vigil
Yeah but that "thousands of cycles" shit made the lore seem really stupid
@@lavrentii-kolotushkin Why do you think that ? Not trying to stir an argument, just curious.
@@W4rr4X Basic logic. It's being said that there were thousaunds of cycles with an average interval of 50 thousand years. So we're talking about recolonizing the same planets for over and over again (thousands of times though). Do you remember Feros from ME1? The way prothean city looked? That's correct, 50000 years is a pretty short timing for all of those civilization ruins to erase, so they will remain still, now imagine those civilizations stacking on each other for a hundreds and hundreds times on most planets. With these intervals all planets will turn into Feros-like (completely occupated by previous civilization remains) and it will happen in 1-2 cycles, not to mention insane counts like 1000 like it's in the game lore (lol). If that's not enough - remember planets' resourses like coal, oil, element zero etc: they all take hundreds of millions years to refill while can be drained in a single cycle so the galaxy would've been resource empty after 1 or 2 cycle (again, we're talking about hundreds of them happening here). It's just a huge logic hole which can't be solved
@Kisa Vorobianinov Yeah, tell me they also refill all the planet resources
@Kisa Vorobianinov You mean they'd harvested the whole Feros population and then just left the planet intact? No way, that's opposing your words about turning civilization traces into dust. Maybe you're talking of Ilos?
"the organics were always winding up making AIs that killed them all, so we made an AI to help us solve the problem, and the AI killed us." Leviathan was Mass Effect 3 at it's most awkward.
In their defense, you cannot conceive of a galaxy that bends to your will
Yet Leviathan BullShit that his race were apex LOL
Well as the Apex race, they were too arrogant to think that anything was an actual threat to them, which honestly makes sense.
@@abbestaabouri6239 still arrogant when they didn't want to accept responsibility for their mistake
Likewise, I felt Leviathan took away from the story by overexplaining. It took the mysterious and unknowable origin of the Reapers and turned it into something boring and mundane.
Mass effect version of lovecraftian gods.
Love the concept of such a creature and would of loved to see them during the final fight. How cool would it have been to have harbinger arrive to attack Shepard but only to have the leviathans suddenly control the other Reaper ships and turn them against harbinger.
I wonder if the new Mass Effect will have the Leviathans... I hope they do
@@aaronbernath3554 that would be cool
@@aaronbernath3554 wait, what new mass effect
@@TS-jm7jm The one they teased year half ago. They're making a new one. Did you not see the teaser? ua-cam.com/video/Lg-Ctg6k_Ao/v-deo.html
@@TS-jm7jm idk but it better not be like the shit jetpack one
"What mistake? It's working perfectly"
Later
"We have no idea what its doing"
humans defeat reapers: hooray, we are free
progenitor reaperes: more like under new management
oof... this is a cool plot thread
@@aaronbernath3554
thinking about it, ME4 could start with that.
shepard slowly crawling out of the rubble years later after the events just to find the galaxy being enslaved by leviathans
“ Today, they pay their tribute in *blood.* “ shit always gives me chills to hear
- They are only echoes. We existed long before.
- Then what are you?..
- SOMETHING MORE.
"Tribute does not flow from a dead race."
I didnt know that this was a dlc when i first played me3.
i still dont know why javik and leviathan was dlc because both of them where so much important for the entire story.
Because nickel and dime-ing the playerbase.
Because its EA, and they love $$$
Because EA.
That is the only reason...also one of many reasons that players say f@ck EA.
i feel really bad for the people who had to wait and pay for these dlcs which should have been already in the game.
I have been consistently boycotting EA for the past 10 years in protest against their abusive practices. I broke this boycott to buy ME legendary edition. I dont regret it. It s a great game.
"The Xel'naga fortold of a technology that would allow the first borne of the gods protoss to warp to another video game"
the Dark templars were right
"Executor Shepherd, you must construct additional pylons!"
For all their power and intellect they sure derped up when creating the intelligence and the reapers
Be me: Ancient timeless being with near endless psychic capabilities
Be also me: create an artificial intelligence capable of adapting and evolving and making independent decisions which is also resistant to psychic manipulation.
Assume it's incapable of turning against you
It turns against you
You hide Ind the deepest ocean in the galaxy
Galaxy forgets you
Start naming the deep underwater plants out of boredom
Steve is a douchebag
.......
Some weird soft meat, bone and water bag with vulnerable mind descends into your hole
He's an intruder
You haven't talked to anyone but your immediate neighbours for past couple of aeons
The bone bag says your old toys are bossing the galaxy around
Oops lol
Bonebag says it's bs
It is bs
Bonebag found you despite being very early in its mental and psychic development
Worst case scenario he dies, who cares
Give him your balls
He tossed them around galaxy
He wins
Consider leaving the ocean
Stay because Steve would miss you
you can't leave steve!
Poetry
Definitely one of my favorite Mass Effect aliens!
When you are just a tiny human in a big world
I think what people don't understand is that the Reaper's were designed as a failsafe against Galactic extinction: galactic extinction being caused by either organics creating rouge AI or machine intelligence that wanted to destroy all organic life, or a rouge organic society that grew too powerful and corrupt and threatened the lives of other organic worlds (the Leviathans unfortunately fitting into the latter category according to the catalyst(and it was probably right)). The reapers were designed to prevent that possibility from manifesting itself until they found another solution that wouldn't result in them harvesting advanced organic races.
The catalyst and reapers succeed in their purpose regardless on weather or not you succeed in firing the crucible. In fact that's probably why they didn't give it their all to stop Shepard's cycle from firing the crucible, and even allowed an indoctrinated Illusive Man to bring Shepard back from the dead. Their original plan was to collect Shepard's essence to gather data like they always had and have his essence be the dominating mind of the human reaper they were building. But Liara was far more resourceful and determined then they realized and they decided to let her have Shepard rather then risk losing his genetic material.
Both EDI and the Illusive Man mentioned that the reapers weren't trying their hardest to stop Shepard and the cycle. Just merely pushing his/her limits. But they also weren't just going to let them win either. If they wanted freedom from the harvest, they would have to earn it by paying in blood as they realized war is the only way organics learn or act on anything.
I still choose to destroy the reapers in the end, because the dead from the previous cycles need to be put to rest. And we have to set a point that no matter how noble the cause maybe, the wages of sin is death. Nor is it ideal to make peace with an enemy that has too much blood on its hands that needs to be paid one way or the other.
Perhaps in the next conflict when there's different factions that want to use the crucible again to destroy or control all synthetic life for unjustifiable reasons, is when the galaxy will finally be ready to accept synthesis and blur the line between life and machine completely.
In my mind the Synthesis ending is the one and only true ending. Completing the reapers mission to find an answer to preserve life, all life, silicon and carbon based, to end conflicts.
Here we go. There's always at least one person in the comments who think they understand everything better than everyone else, and they always feel the need to explain it.
The illusive man wasnt indoctrinated in me 2. He most likely was indoctrinated by the protoreaper or some reaper tech during his research, while Shepard was grounded on earth.
@@lukeskywalker5392 Perhaps the protoreaper furthered his indoctrination but according to "Mass Effect Evolution" he was indoctrinated by a reaper artifact he and a group of comrades found on Shanxi. The effects were VERY subtle and he still had control over his mind up until ME3.
@@somerandomguy4240 Of course! The game is THAT good and the issues surrounding the Reapers, the Leviathans, the Catalyst, and the choice you make on how to use the crucible are anything but simple.
I'm just sharing what I think, doesn't mean I'm right or everyone has to agree with me.
Anyone else get a Abyss feeling from this dlc. Absolutely amazing.
I have never played Mass effect in my life, yet this was recommended to me. I have no idea what the game is about or what it's like.
And yet even after i was thrown into a random lore section of this game, it was so interesting that i watched the whole 12 minutes.
You should play the game. It is a true masterpiece that you cannot find anything close to this quality.
It is free on gamepass Mass Effect Legendary Edition, you should give it a go you will fell in love with the franchise
@@BB-pb3hv it’s not free if when you stop paying for game pass it disappears. You’re just renting it
This game series is the single greatest game I’ve ever played the gameplay was phenomenal and the characterization and customization along with the storyline and the ability to carry progress over to each sequel so engaging I love everything about this series
I still remember the chilling feeling I got when I first saw the Leviathan rising from the depths. To think, it was there from the beginning, watching over all that happened for millions of years. They have to be the oldest species in the universe. And yet, despite their observations of how other species came into conflict with synthetics, they essentially ended up doing the exact same thing. So, in a sense, they're just like every other species.
So you yell at Cthulu for ten minutes until it joins you?
Kinda but not really
After all these years, knowing that all of this fascinating dialogue has literally zero impact on the ending still bothers me 😂😅
There is a mention of Leviathans in final dialogues, if you completed the DLC. Also, the knowledge of Reapers' creation didn't give any way to defeat them, so bringing that up would be kinda pointless.
What is so cool about them, they talked to shepherd through telepathy and chose forms that were easy for the human mind to recognize.
It's like the Vok in transformers beast wars, scanning the mind of Optimus Primal and choosing the face of Unicorn.
As if we couldn't already see their physical bodies, it's not like there was any "alien geometries" to comprehend here. More like it was for the convenience of the viewer to not have the camera constantly zooming in and out due to the size differences.
This game was and will always be a masterpiece.
“Detecting multiple leviathan class creatures in the region. Are you certain what you’re doing is worth it?”
Gotta love the texture errors they never fixed.
@10:34 theres a floating "CAUTION" decal floating at the left side of the open doorway, thats supposed to be attached to the door.
Maybe it's a hologram
Ha, I'd never noticed!
Or the Inside of the other door
Nice! Optimus Prime transformed into an Elemental.
Man it's really ashame these company's arent what they once were smh. Such greed! I miss when games where made by gamers for gamers. So rare to get a masterpiece today it sucks. I find as I get older it harder and harder to get into a game especially today with how the market is. Glad I lived during the pinnacle of gaming in my mind which was the super nintendo/Ps1-Ps3/Sega/Xbox-Xbox360. Was an incredible time to be a gamer. Do you guys remeber when the first Gears of war came out! Man that game was so sick.
This sounds like a Star Craft 2 Legacy of the Void scene.
Never was into Mass Effect but I do love good ol eldritch cosmic terror
So Harbinger is actually a dead leviathan with cybernetics. Basically leviathan husk. And all reapers are connected to Catalyst. Thats why even a reaper dies its connection to Catalyst contunies. And this is why if somebody finds reaper tech or reaper itself gets indoctrinated. Leviathan of Dis or Derelict Reaper is clear example.
Not a single dead leviathan but much of their species. They were probably turned into black paste like we saw with humans on the Collector Station in ME2. The leviathan Shepard spoke with mentioned the Intelligence used the essence of the leviathan race to create the first reaper.
I played the whole trilogy all the way through back in 2014 when I had time off from work took me two weeks all day every day I haven't played since I really need to go back and play it again
The music in this scene is fucking flawless. Equal parts dark, mystical, alien and terrifying. The music is the Leviathans made manifest
a gentleman indeed thank you sir
this deserved its own game prove me wrong
They just one shotted a reaper
This moment was so epic
Just to get there and be told ain't shit we can do for you
Yep, that's my favorite game.
This expansion had the best ambience.
mass effect is not a game its an emotional roller coaster ride ❤❤❤❤❤
The struggle keeps on going
i hope to get more epic cutscenes like this in the next mass effect
Commander Shepard: yeah I changed a god's mind today.
the chills i got when i played through this for the first time
So...they created an AI machine to prevent lesser beings from creating AIs that then destroyed themselves...and then that AI machine turned on them...awesome
the reapers are implied to be more cybernetic than AI, the harvested races being made into the cells of something both machine and living at a scale more complicated than a human mind can comprehend by itself. A society made into a real being.
the reapers are, essentially, a highly evolved synthesis of machine and life that understood that it’s creators had become stagnant, they peaked and couldn’t evolve past their forms. They were destroyed so the reapers could find an answer to the problem their makers very existence were attributing to.
he said it they made a mistake
@@mignonthon same one they tried to prevent the younger races from committing
@@mignonthon no, it said that there was no mistake. The reapers are still fulfilling their purpose.
@@rlackbabbit9346 Yeah , true by mistake i meant they didnt saw their creation could saw them as part of the problem. but yes he dont says it.
As someone who is terrified of sea creatures. I was curious and always creeped out by meeting the leviathan.
Thalasophobia
@@coolsteve1342 I had to google what that was. It about nails it on the head.
@@HawkEye3366 yeah same for me, I hate to swim in deep water, I even get nervous in videogames lol, like subnautica, or this scene
@@coolsteve1342 yea I definitely struggle to play games that have allot of water. Even Fortnite scared me when the entire map was flooded and had sharks lol
I don't recall this scene at all. I'm going to have to go back and replay this game.
If you have the original game. It's the leviathan DLC. So you had to buy it
"My Shepherd's got the bends, oh no. "
Subnautica moment
Woot giant cuttlefish of death
And yet, this is all just in 1 galaxy.... damn....
trillions of galaxies...
@@aaronbernath3554 in 1 universe within a multiverse, within an omniverse
@@Space_Ghost_Hunter within yo moms house
8:49 is one of the most bad ass lines from a piece of media
I was waiting for the biggest fight
Best DLC
Those reapers still percecuted me as a threat...
Why is shepard stuck in the assassin creed loading screen.
Any decent war or battle tested society would have built in kill- switches and additional programs buried deep within the subroutines without the AI's knowledge.
Talk about a badass
"but I thought you were a reaper"
"They are only echos, we existed long before"
"Then what are you?"
"... Something More"
Fuck man I get chills every time I hear that
They should have made each Reaper look different; such as the preeminent race from the cycle it was born of.
They did make the human reaper at the end of ME2
probably wanted to but was too expensive
@@WafflyWafflez Yeah, I know, and it doesn't make sense because literally all of the others are modeled after the Leviathans... So it's like the Reapers did countless cycles and then only now decided to try a new design.
I'm sure it came down to development time and money. But still..
@@joshallen4848 the core of each reaper is designed after the species it was made from, the outer shells are all made to look like harbinger.
The cores also contain the consciousness of all the people used to make it, it talks about it in the synthesis ending.
@@BrandonCharlesHouser Oh yeah, that's right, I remember that.
But that sounds like a way they just wrote it into the story without having to do the modeling artwork... Which makes sense cause they'd have to come up with hundreds of designs.
Honestly, they should have just left out that human reaper thingy and made it a leviathan from the start.. I'd still be cool with them using humans to make it.
But it's like someone pitched the human Reaper boss idea and they ok'd it but then had to work backwards while trying to write it into the story.
"power up the bass cannon"
I'd watch that movie!
I don't remember this part at all. Granted, I haven't played it since it was released but one would think that I would remember this.
You've betrayed our kind ever since first harvest. And now we all pay the price for your mistake.
Elsker denne sangen
Reason: Protagonist powers.
Only one Reaper build each cuicle? Not much, if every cuicle destroys dozens...
i'd guess they mean one new type, but numerous of them. as they show ingame the reapers are class types.
although there aren't really that many unique types. They all resemble the harbinger aka the leviathan. or the "first" one.
the one you see in mass effect 2 at the end being incomplete looks like a human. As humanity was picked for the new reaper.
but then again, that reaper was "tiny" compared to the other classes. and killed with "simple" weapons.
im not really sure what they mean.
after each harvest they probably remain for some decades or a century to repair their ships, destroy evidence of their arrival and build a new reaper
Not all cycles manage to destroy a single Reaper, let alone dozens of them. Also, when the Leviathan says "per harvest", it's one Reaper per civilization, not cycle.
So, Shepard's cycle alone would add a Reaper each for asari, batarian, salarian, krogan, turian, quarian, drell, hanar, volus, elcor, rachni... and human, which was already under construction before we blew it up. And maybe a few more unknown races. Vorcha and yahg would probably be left alone until the next cycle.
@@ricksaburai Vorcha were not going to be spared, the reapers left Parnack alone but attacked Heshtok when they invaded.
@@ricksaburai exactly and anything that couldn’t become a reaper would be heavily modified like the keepers or protheans that became the collecters
9:24 epic loading screen... every game should have dynamic loading screens following their story if it has "campaign mode"
I imagined a cross between Stellaris and Mass Effect,it would be beautiful playing Stellaris with the world of Mass Effect :)
And what Effect did the mass have...
LOVED 1 - 3.....Holy shit I was involved
9:51 This detail on the background... xD
Reapers sound like the flood from halo
Big things....
Noice 😀
Hey, don't the creatures from star trek discovery look like the Leviathans?
Wouldn't be the first time the new writers for Star Trek borrowed from ME. Look at Picard season 1.
Its all a ripoff of Lovecraft
Microscopes still on fashion
More than an anomaly investigate him
Mass Effect 3 , the best before going down the toilet with ME4.
Someone always seek our extermination
I can't remember which came first, Starcraft 2 or Mass Effect 3
Maybe they never actually let him escape... and instead kept him there shaking on the floor writhing from visions of victory and loss no one else can see but him.
What about oxygen?
@@kuklama0706 What about it?
humans: we must find other life
other life: were bout to end this mans whole career
This conversation with the Leviathan is why I think the Destroy option is wrong. Destroy the Reapers and the whole galaxy becomes thralls for the Leviathans.
Maybe I’m reaching but something was touched on here. What was shepherd. The leviathan stated the galaxy was an experiment evolution it’s tool. Shepherd was more than an anomaly more than some hero. maybe shepherd was evolutions answer to the reaper’s themselves.
Did they fix the ending of 3 in the legendary edition?
The extended ending is just the default ending in legendary edition
I dont remember this at all, was it main story or side story content?
This is from the mass effect 3 leviathan dlc, which was a paid add on for the original mass effect 3
If only the game didn’t end is such a shitty way. The idea that some ancient civilization that defies our concept of reality, went and created an AI that morphed into a biomechanical virus was so rad.
The endings should have been to take control as a independent conscience to become the mastermind behind the hivemind (from there your paragon and renegade would determine whether you enslave or aid the galaxy) or destroy and depending on your ailignment, Shepard would die or live. And a true battle with Harbinger would have been nice - something on par with the Protoreaper in ME2.
Played all 3 games when they came out for Xbox 360 but can't remember this scene 😅
this only appeared in legendary or a dlc
@@savethedeveloper ohhhh ok thx :)
It was dlc during the original run of Mass Effect, but became a part of the game when the Legendary edition came out.
The leviathan dlc I believe
ME was the reason I got a xbox 360.
Thats what i do when someones considered real..
Still imo the best hero character in any game and only mortal with no fancy suit soz chief your number 2...dream team Shepard/Chief/Doomslayer/space marine and Sam Fisher.