Playlist: • Mass Effect Story Cuts... Mass Effect 1 Sovereign All Scenes Complete. I compiled all conversations and cutscenes of Sovereign(Saren's flagship).
"Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding" I remember when bioware was good at writing.
You mean before EA bought them out and gutted their studio? Bioware was pinnacle developers until EA did what they do and bleed devs dry while trashing their franchises.
_MaZ_ Nah man, at least not in the early parts of it. The whole mystery behind Sovereign is that it never really did anything special other than be a massive ship until. DUN DUN DUN Virmire happened and you figured out what it was
"Reverse and hold at 38.5" *still image of Sovereign* No music, fanfare or drama. Just an uncomfortable silence and a sinking dread. Masterpiece, this game.
@@MrHalohunter24 Yeah, they never managed to capture the same level of existencial dread like this again, speaking to Sovereign aways makes me unease, there's something about the way he "speaks" that it's just not right. As much as i love ME2 Harbinger is just too cartoonish, and don't even get me started on the Leviathan with that stupid darkness crap
We really need to petition both Bioware and EA Games to create a Remastered Mass Effect Trilogy (one w/out broken dialogues, better graphics, and include DLC ranging from pre-order to add-ons) to make up for that abysmal Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Is there a website that you can create a petition form that could be sent to both EA Games and Bioware telling them to develop a Remastered Mass Effect Trilogy?
JMC #1 I'm having difficulties working on the petition since we need a decision maker and I for one may have came up w/the idea of petitioning Bioware and EA Games, but I don't feel that I'm the best option for a decision maker. Got any ideas as to who?
I'd say to make up for the cheap ass cop out for a plot in ME3 to..sure theres good thigs in it but that game..all stuff in it thats good!...thats ORganic etc is the none main 'overlooked' stuff aka as ussual only the people EA forgot to whip got a chance to present ther work without it being coruppted
Shepard: what are you? Sovereign: I am beyond your understanding human Shepard: ok yeah but can you give me a vague idea of what you are? Sovereigns you cannot even grasp the concept of our being Shepard: uh ok next question then what do you want? Sovereign: I’m so fucking old dude Shepard: bruh why does this thing not answer a single question I have? Sovereign: we’ll destroy you for reasons I can’t explain k bye
1:47 every player during their first encounter : goddamm it, big ass ship! after playing the entire series :thats the most formidable villlain ever existed!
9:19 - 9:39 is my favorite scene in the series for some reason. On its own it's nothing special but the music just does such a good job of making it that much more creepy.
@@ezequielmorales4221 yes sr1 is more iconic .but sr2 survived more .has more feats And rly , it's more modern. More powerfuly armed and armored specialy if you count the improvements and upgrades in 2 and 3.sr2 is just a better ship
Not only more powerful, but twice the size of the original one. Both are beautiful, but yes, in the end the SR2 is the better ship. Those Thanix cannons pack a punch.
@@ezequielmorales4221 yep. The thanix cannons and the assari made armor you install in 2 make the sr2 a kickass ship.hell the sr1 is a traditional frigate.the sr2 would better fit into a destroyer-cruiser category
Towards the end, I never understand why killing Saren after he transformed caused Sovereign to drop his shields. Controlling one Turian couldn't have been that taxing for a reaper.
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 Thousands? There looks to be less than a hundred , and that's before most of them get destroyed. And Sovereign didn't just drop his shields, he got completely disabled and rendered immobile and had no offensive ability, which given that only happens a few seconds after you kill Saren, those events are linked, which is actually something to think about. That Sovereign could have beaten the entire fleet and ended the galaxy if he had just waited a few minutes before trying to reactivate the Mass Relay
@@TOONYBOY he was never meant to succeed. If he was he would had the geth just set up AAS and send a bunch of geth chargers, a pain in my pussy, against Shepherd. And they had krogan chargers too too much pain.
This was brilliant storytelling, it made the reapers seem like an inevitable threat, like everything you did was a wasted effort that would ultimately lead to nothing. ME3 contradicted everything that the reapers were supposed to be.
"like everything you did was a wasted effort that would ultimately lead to nothing." Bioware possibly realized that such an ending would completely strip the Trilogy of replay value, so wrote a means of defeating them.
@@MrJordwalk Of course, you need a trilogy to have an ending, and the good guys must win but I'm sure many people were left unsatisfied after learning that everything they knew about the reapers was a lie.
I hate how they ended up not using the original idea for the reapers and instead with what we have now. It turned them from trully endless and eternal beings into Edgy teens that mistake a lack of initial knowledge for something you cant comprehend.
The worst part is that Sovereign was not boasting. We see the sheer lengths the Reapers went to for the destruction of all civilization. The indoctrination of the Geth, the Collectors, the Alpha Relay backdoor, and then come Mass Effect 3 when they finally invade and we have every possible advantage we could have over them, they still annihilate all coordinated resistance save the Crucible in the time it took Shepard to escape and return to Earth, which as he put it was “a few months”.
I can imagine this image where this guy is just sitting on a bench and is somewhat indoctrinated, and then there is this bashful as fuck femboy reaver with his pinky around the other guys pinky.
A lot of new people have been coming to the game recently, and most have them have been loving the whole trilogy. Maybe you just have the opposite of rose tinted glasses for 3
I was surprised that when the Sovereign landed and flew away from Eden Prime, his sounds were different from the Reapers in the third part, it was unexpected but cool)
Abraham Drinkin I know right? Like 1000s of other colonists would have seen sovereign, the geth, and Saren... and the council would be like, “no asari, turians, or salarians? Doesn’t count then.”
Interesting how they believed in the Reapers at the end of ME1 but not in ME2. I know that things can seem intense in the moment and people can change their minds after processing things, plus there's an element of politics in not wanting the Reapers to be real in ME2. But they really did a complete 180, I can't remember any mention of the fact that the council said "Thank you for saving us from the Reapers" before saying "The Reapers don't exist."
Boy howdy anyone walking into Mass Effect 1 with zero spoilers seeing the first Reaper in that first scene... like I did at the beginning, would think that's a massive fucking hand.
Awww yes. When shepherd warns everyone about the reapers and......ME3 they then start believing. Krogan: I hope politicians appreciate you shepherd. ... Me: they tried to retire him but ME3 changed that almost immediately.
Never appreciated the Reapers not acknowledging their creators, seems like they absorbed and harvested them like all the later civilisations so even then they have a beginning as organic life. Even if it was millions of years ago
I'm looking forward to seeing how different Sovereign will look with ME Legendary Edition. (I'm aware I'm probably over-hyping it with that statement, and I'm sorry if it's annoying, but I'm looking forward to the game(s) being released)
Sovereign sounds far different than Harbonger. But Reapers are made from BOTH organic and synthetic civilizations. My theory is that Sovereign, unlike Harbinger, is made from a harvested civilization of AIs, and because of that it sounds so metallic and alien. Moreover it loaths Geth (who ironically worship it as their god), not jus because they were not like it, but because they reminded it of its weak, past life before Reaperization.
I think its the only reaper that had a post relevant story with direct affect on the games trajectory so it was the only one with a very Palpable impact and personality, so I guess yeah it was
Hey Jaguar550 question. Reapers leaves the Citadel and Mass relay so that humans can evolve. Just so they can destroy them. If the humans never found those would the Reapers never have show up? Like Sovereign says the Reapers wanna them in the path of evolution just to extinct them.
Basically what Brett said if humanity didn't find the Relays in time then they would have just been the next cycles empire and the Reapers would have ignored them because since we didn't discover the Mass Relays they would have seen us as "too primitive"
If a race can't even learn to use the mass relays, let alone have the means to traverse the galaxy like the turians, asari, salarians, etc. Then the reapers simply will ignore them as they aren't considered intelligent enough to be harvested. However though that doesn't mean they're safe 100%, the moment they gain the ability to travel via their star system's mass relay and to the citadel is when they'll be noticed and collected during the next cycle of extinction.
In ME3 citadel DLC, it's stated that the council secretly acknowledged the Reaper threat and were making preparations for their arrival, I have no idea why they still denied it in front of Shepard though, the guy who literally discovered the Reaper threat.
nope , flawed strategy waste of resources laying into reapers long term..saving whats supposed to be replacebal representants at the expense of un-replacebal hardware.. yes..I always leet them die in evry play XD
Think about it. If you save them, the Alliance fleet attacks the Geth ships while they're distracted with the Ascension and Sovereign is occupied somewhere else. If you don't save them, after the Ascension is destroyed the Geth ships have more than enough time to move into defensive positions around Sovereign. So you can either send the fleet at the Geth while they're distracted, or you can send the fleet at Sovereign and the Geth in defensive positions.
@@DiggitySlice or use the fact the geth ships needs to stay in attack formation to make use of ther current advantage and send your alliance fleet right into what until your arrival was a 'secure' flank and just butcher them swiftly for the price of one complacent council and ther personal flag ship... so that sovergin is alone when the citadel re-opens for the fleet to strike is ship self directly, ;) when it comes down to it ,both strategies are valid from a combat perspective.. but from a long term agenda one , one leaves you with dead weight that partly caused the current situation by doing exactly what the reapers 'scheduled' to happen when they left tech around.. and the other without that dead weight and a nice fresh open spot for allies to reconsider what sort of behavior and agendas the representatives they put in charge of society resources for the next few centuries should have. so its basicly , the aftermath consideration of...save the 'clout' to have political favor...but so to speak 'tainted' meat in the system... or dont save ,no clout and a heap of animosity but on the other hand the best chance for a 'system purge' ..personly simply leans towards the sacrifice one for the simple reason they got explicit warning that things no longer was a sole political question of a rouge agent , and yet they still only took political measures agenst it that speaks of a lack of ability to adapt that only become more lethal the more severe things gets one way or another. after all they could done something like at least a cover 'ghost' re-deployment of some small fleet assets to stay of the radar from the standard citadel defense fleet and hit potential geth invasions in the back when they strike the citadel defense fleet at leat until it either been confirmed the back door into it been secured and powered down , or confirmed none existent. either way , forgot a left a comment here , and never expect anyone to have words for it cheers mate! nothing wrong with saving em...guess i might been suspecting how EA would ruin the franchisee so i took out the frustration in advance of the complacent fictional council XD
There is one really weak part about the story of mass effect...the villain story. Sure the concept is interesting but the presentation is awful. The reaper reveals himself to explain his nature and motives over a shitty hologram. There is nothing cinematic here. Remember the reveal of gravemind and the didact in halo? Our protagonists fall into a dark hole. Gravemind has already demonstrated his power by controlling ais, infecting the halo, wiping out whole armies. Now...This disgusting green monster holds up the two characters with giant tentacles and speaks in sonnets. The didact breaks through in full glory and the Covenanters are so awestruck they kneel before him like a god. Throughout the course of four games we have been told how powerful the forerunners were. This is the first time we’ve seen a living forerunner and we learn that the didact is godlike even by forerunner standards. Neither villain feels the need to explain how powerful they are. Instead other characters are used to say “trust me dude. This guy is terrifying.” The poor reapers have to literally advertise their villainy themselves because nobody cares enough to do it for them.
So Sovereign didn't push through an entire fleet by essentially ramming into it and outright ignoring every attempt to take it down because of how insignificant they are to it? Must have missed that. Oh, and mind controlling Saren and making the Geth fall in line.
James Moseley " We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness" The Reapers are arrogant, and rightfully so because they have been doing this for literally eons and haven't yet been stopped. Some might've come close to defeating them but ultimately none did. And you forget that this is a machine that has (assuming there wasn't a previous reaper vanguard who was killed and Sovereign took over the position relatively recently) presided over the beginning of the eradication of every organic (and synthetic) species in the galaxy for at least 37 million years, judging by age of the derelict reaper. There is an extinction every 50,000 years or so, that is at least 185 billion cycles. Sovereign has had this conversation or something similar like at least 200 billion times. And always succeeded. Arrogance, and overconfidence. Sovereign tells you this because it doesn't care if you know or not, he'd probably tell you anything if you asked. Furthermore, this is an artificial intelligence. It inst going to reason the same way organics do.
@@lauralynnasteriahathaway6819 ...you ..you dont math very well do you? How the fuck would 185 BILLION cycles occur...in 37 million years? (Especially if every cycle is 50,000 years) 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ The universe is only 14 billion years old, milkway 13.5 billion. If the cycles began right when the milkyway began, then only 270,000 cycles have occured
Sovereign: *Long ass self-aggrandizing speech about how he and the Reapers are so great* I just realized why they sent him on his own. Years ahead of everyone else.
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu nah, just never told them when they're done with bringing the apocolypse and all that shit and just left his annoying ass there to "be the spearhead"
1:06 It was at this moment I knew Mass Effect would be amazing, not just good. That level of detail, showing the turian mannerism for nervousness, just too perfect.
@@gorchakovvs7750one it has been 25 years since first contact obviously mannerisms would mix two he was making fun of humans and their instance on the reaper threat even tho it is terrible politically to even mention it so obviously he would use a human mannerism here
*SW fans to Lucasfilm* "you exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it. Millions of years after your business has fallen apart and forgotten, we will endure""
I never appreciated just how good the cinematography was in the original ME trilogy, ME:1 in particular. There are some spectacular shots here... What is that they say? You never realize how much you enjoy something until it is gone. I feel like that. Mass Effect is my Star wars, my Lord of the rings... I hope Bioware finds a way to revive this absolutely amazing universe, it deserves it.
Is that another way of saying you like tentacle/giant/beastilliaty/machines/snuff? Not trying to be insulting but thats whats gonna happen if you play with fire!
This was the first Reaper we saw, and he was unstoppable. Just to think that there was an entire army of these, it is the proof that you just need to make a villain untouchable, you don't need an army of them or anything like that. Another thing is that Sovereign was just like the other Reapers, the thing that made him different is that he was kinda old than other models, maybe the second Reaper or something
Wasn't the thing that made him unstoppable here was that he caught everyone off guard by using the rules only the Reapers knew about. The Council send their forces around the Terminus where the majority of the Geth were, presumably at the relays using them as choke points so a token force was left to guard the Citadel. To their understanding there was no way to get to the Citadel without going through their blockade at the relay unaware that the Citadel itself is a Mass Effect relay. Ever race the Reapers wiped out fell for the same trick.
@@ARandomGuy24 The Reapers rely on the galaxy being distracted and caught off guard before they attack. A united galaxy prepared for them would likely annihilate them, considering that the Reapers can't replenish losses as quickly as a force with the entire galaxy as an industrial base.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 This is an entire fleet. The alliance only has 9 fleets total. Humanity was considered a pretty powerful nation and here one is pretty much decimating an entire fleet right up until Reaper Sauren is killed and it stops working. In Me2 it's mentioned they're still recouping their losses suffered. That's just from one Reaper that was only killed by it stopping working when it's connection to the Sauren it was controlling stopped. They didn't even beat it, just got beat up on by it until it someone else bluescreened the machine.
Even without his voice, just looking at Sovereign and knowing HE SEES YOU, knows you and has witnessed a thousand civilizations rise before striking them down without a second thought is terrifying to fathom. His mere presence drives organic beings, from the wisest of asari matriarchs to the most steadfast of Turian Spectres, to madness. For 50,000 years he's wandered the galaxy alone, watching organics build up from nothing, waiting for the right moment to begin the harvest. First seeing him on Eden Prime in the distance was like turning a corner and seeing Hell itself made manifest. The way it flies through space like it's an apex predator from the ocean depths. When it learns of the beacon's use, it's even possible that Saren's outburst isn't his anger, but Sovereign's. His attack on the Citadel is so abrasive and cold, and his final corruption of Saren in a last ditch attempt at kickstarting the Harvest is beyond gruesome. Even the way Sovereign DIES is unnerving as it thrashes about like a wounded animal, unable to contemplate how these primitives could've possible beaten him. And even afterwards, the idea that he's just THE SCOUT for Harbinger and the rest of the Reapers makes it terrifying to even look back up into the sky. What I'm trying to say is... *Sovereign scares me.*
Does it seem weird to anyone else to call the Reapers soulless machines? Organics gained “souls” over time, and by developing. But the reapers have been around MUCH longer!!! They’ve had time to develop these abilities,
FurryEskimo I am not even sure if they can be classified as machine, while they are synthetic, they are created by DNA harvested from other organic races, the human reaper at the end of mass effect 2 for instance. They are unfathomably interesting.
We never got a really solid explanation on how it all works though. :/ Like why didn’t the human reaper give us a fist bump and invite us to chill? Humans aren’t just killing machines.
Wild Card If that’s how you feel, ok. I felt cheated out of a real story. Too many shows say “you could never understand” and leave it at that. Boring...
What was a HUUUGE let down in the entire trilogy is we didn't get this answer: Were each Reaper independent and had free thoughts and free will? Or was it the Starchild, The Catalyst controlling EVERY Reaper? Was it him talking when we spoke to Sovereign, Harbinger and the Rannoch Reaper? I ignored Mass Effect 4. Don't know if they answered it there but i highly doubt it.
4:31 - “There’s an entire galaxy of races United and ready to face you” So that’s a complete lie at this point in time. Hell the Council doesn’t even believe in Reapers for the first two games
Would've been interesting if sending in the fleet early to save the council had some more negative effects. As far as I can tell it had no negative consequences in ME2 or 3. Now characters that died, no plots relating to the extra losses, not even a slight reduction in war assets. Seeing some extra nameless ships blowing up in a cut scene doesn't feel like much of an impact. Hell maybe a piece of Sovereign could've escaped.
I saw a video the other day where the replacement Salarian councilor gives you extra war assets that the original one wouldn't, so there may be some little things like that.
"You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it." Gets me every time.
I use a similar phrase on my wife
Sovereign tried to save us from Andromeda.
He's a good boy.
First we had Marauder Shields, now Sovereign. What is this world coming to?
what do you mean?
He tried to save us from Anthem man. Andromeda is actually a way better game.
Kale Chips You are indoctrinated!
But someone must stop andromeda!
When Sovereign advanced on the Citadel, he didn't fire a single shot
Wrong. See 14.36
SCDJMU he said he was advancing on the citadel, at 14:36 he was already connected
@@rileykeen6242 ahh ok. Sovereign for president
"Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding"
I remember when bioware was good at writing.
You mean before EA bought them out and gutted their studio? Bioware was pinnacle developers until EA did what they do and bleed devs dry while trashing their franchises.
The conversation with Sovereign on Virmire still gives me chills to this day.
"Our numbers will darken the sky of every world"
If they ever remaster this trilogy, they better include the Reaper horn sound effect in the Sovereign introduction parts.
_MaZ_ Nah man, at least not in the early parts of it. The whole mystery behind Sovereign is that it never really did anything special other than be a massive ship until. DUN DUN DUN Virmire happened and you figured out what it was
No, they definitely shouldn’t. This would be what George Lucas would do.
Jack Ohlander That’s no ship!
Yess
You may just get your wish with the legendary edition.
"Reverse and hold at 38.5"
*still image of Sovereign*
No music, fanfare or drama. Just an uncomfortable silence and a sinking dread. Masterpiece, this game.
Plus that talon twitch from Nihlus indicating a mix of curiosity and unease. Which, coming from a Spectre, means alot.
@@MrHalohunter24 Yeah, they never managed to capture the same level of existencial dread like this again, speaking to Sovereign aways makes me unease, there's something about the way he "speaks" that it's just not right. As much as i love ME2 Harbinger is just too cartoonish, and don't even get me started on the Leviathan with that stupid darkness crap
This single Reaper was more menacing and terrifying, than the thousands in ME3.
That one ship name made a chill run up my spine
Inverse ninja law
How droll, edgy ME3 haters
In ME3 all reapers have 1 magnetohydrodynamics weapon
Sovereign 5 guns on legs: take my beer
@@batyaberez7702 harbinger fires a beam from each "eye" simultaneously
I miss mass effect so much
We really need to petition both Bioware and EA Games to create a Remastered Mass Effect Trilogy (one w/out broken dialogues, better graphics, and include DLC ranging from pre-order to add-ons) to make up for that abysmal Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Agreed.
Is there a website that you can create a petition form that could be sent to both EA Games and Bioware telling them to develop a Remastered Mass Effect Trilogy?
JMC #1 I'm having difficulties working on the petition since we need a decision maker and I for one may have came up w/the idea of petitioning Bioware and EA Games, but I don't feel that I'm the best option for a decision maker. Got any ideas as to who?
I'd say to make up for the cheap ass cop out for a plot in ME3 to..sure theres good thigs in it but that game..all stuff in it thats good!...thats ORganic etc is the none main 'overlooked' stuff aka as ussual only the people EA forgot to whip got a chance to present ther work without it being coruppted
NakedSnake1836 EA claim to be against remasters as they see them only as money hunger products
Yea I know complete bullshit coming from them
"We are the end of everything."
No, come on. Your entire purpose is to make sure organic life doesn't end. Get with the program, Sovereign. Gawd.
Huh?
Connor, der von Cyberlife gesendete Android. Leviathan Dlc
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 never ending cycle
Gah, I hated that DLC so much
Shepard: what are you?
Sovereign: I am beyond your understanding human
Shepard: ok yeah but can you give me a vague idea of what you are?
Sovereigns you cannot even grasp the concept of our being
Shepard: uh ok next question then what do you want?
Sovereign: I’m so fucking old dude
Shepard: bruh why does this thing not answer a single question I have?
Sovereign: we’ll destroy you for reasons I can’t explain k bye
Well, it makes sense. Intimidate, but give no actual clue about own nature or plans.
it's not like Sovereign owes Shepherd any sort of explanation, why would anyone explain themselves to someone they are trying to kill?
You wouldn’t explain the meaning of life to an ant, you’d say, “Ew gross, die lol.”
@@miketacos9034 you wouldn't say anything to an ant actually.
1:47 every player during their first encounter : goddamm it, big ass ship!
after playing the entire series :thats the most formidable villlain ever existed!
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@i hate anime You too.
The sovereign confrontation in Virmire is probably my favorite scene in the entire trilogy.
It’s too bad picking Anderson as a councilor meant fucking nothing.
It sorta really does
He really is useless sometimes lol
Asari : Destiny ascention is the most powerful warship in milky way galaxy
Sovereign : That's cute
Harbinger : ( angry cuttlefish noises)
9:19 - 9:39 is my favorite scene in the series for some reason. On its own it's nothing special but the music just does such a good job of making it that much more creepy.
The end of ME1 is so hard-hitting, it is _fantastic._
IMO, it's by far the best endgame in the trilogy.
11:50
narrator : *they didn't*
The council is secondary in my view, far more important is the favor curried with alien races and saving the Ascension
The SR-2 is nice and all, but the SR-1 gave the finishing blow to the vanguard of the reaper armada.
The sr2 also destroyed a collector battleship and survived the reaper war
Good point. Still, they didn't killed a reaper with the SR-2.
@@ezequielmorales4221 yes sr1 is more iconic .but sr2 survived more .has more feats
And rly , it's more modern. More powerfuly armed and armored specialy if you count the improvements and upgrades in 2 and 3.sr2 is just a better ship
Not only more powerful, but twice the size of the original one. Both are beautiful, but yes, in the end the SR2 is the better ship. Those Thanix cannons pack a punch.
@@ezequielmorales4221 yep. The thanix cannons and the assari made armor you install in 2 make the sr2 a kickass ship.hell the sr1 is a traditional frigate.the sr2 would better fit into a destroyer-cruiser category
Towards the end, I never understand why killing Saren after he transformed caused Sovereign to drop his shields. Controlling one Turian couldn't have been that taxing for a reaper.
Keith A. Perhaps he put most of his power into Saren idk dosent make sense
Keith A. Oh, I don’t know. Maybe it’s because of the THOUSANDS OF ALLIANCE SHIPS SHOOTING AT THE BIG HAND IN THE SKY!
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 Thousands? There looks to be less than a hundred , and that's before most of them get destroyed. And Sovereign didn't just drop his shields, he got completely disabled and rendered immobile and had no offensive ability, which given that only happens a few seconds after you kill Saren, those events are linked, which is actually something to think about. That Sovereign could have beaten the entire fleet and ended the galaxy if he had just waited a few minutes before trying to reactivate the Mass Relay
Psychic bullshit.
@@TOONYBOY he was never meant to succeed. If he was he would had the geth just set up AAS and send a bunch of geth chargers, a pain in my pussy, against Shepherd. And they had krogan chargers too too much pain.
This was brilliant storytelling, it made the reapers seem like an inevitable threat, like everything you did was a wasted effort that would ultimately lead to nothing. ME3 contradicted everything that the reapers were supposed to be.
"like everything you did was a wasted effort that would ultimately lead to nothing."
Bioware possibly realized that such an ending would completely strip the Trilogy of replay value, so wrote a means of defeating them.
@@MrJordwalk Of course, you need a trilogy to have an ending, and the good guys must win but I'm sure many people were left unsatisfied after learning that everything they knew about the reapers was a lie.
@@wumbosaurus9121 inevitable threat? They were. What you wanted the me3 ending to be about?
@@wumbosaurus9121 what exactly was a lie?
So you want a trilogy that amounts to absolutely nothing but wasted time? Why?
Sovereign, the "vanguard of our destruction". How's that working out for you, big guy?
Fine…the galaxy lost in me3 so the cycle continues
I hate how they ended up not using the original idea for the reapers and instead with what we have now.
It turned them from trully endless and eternal beings into Edgy teens that mistake a lack of initial knowledge for something you cant comprehend.
I also think that ME3 should have given another explanation to the Reapers that explain why they are so mystical in ME1
I don't think any explanation was necessary, the fact that we don't know what they are makes them so much scarier
@@trenocio8541 first rule of cosmic horror is never explain the creature's origin and intentions
@@Blackhawk211 Yeah, that's another valid alternative. What I mean is that the explanation we had in ME3 spoiled that feeling of eerieness
What was the original idea?
The worst part is that Sovereign was not boasting. We see the sheer lengths the Reapers went to for the destruction of all civilization. The indoctrination of the Geth, the Collectors, the Alpha Relay backdoor, and then come Mass Effect 3 when they finally invade and we have every possible advantage we could have over them, they still annihilate all coordinated resistance save the Crucible in the time it took Shepard to escape and return to Earth, which as he put it was “a few months”.
I love so much mass effect ❤
Yup:)
Me to
Same here
Ahmed PLatinum does everyone?
I have to stop listening to the Reapers, I think I'm starting to love them. I think everyone here will end up indoctrinated.
I can imagine this image where this guy is just sitting on a bench and is somewhat indoctrinated, and then there is this bashful as fuck femboy reaver with his pinky around the other guys pinky.
@@oceanicwhitetip8984
femboy reaper
*femboy reaper*
@@DiggitySlice what have I done...
I shivered the first time I heard the score for 1st contact with Sovereign...such a timeless scene..
When Nihlus twitches his lil jaw thingies
The story in the first two games will always be in my top 3 all time. These games were masterpieces
A lot of new people have been coming to the game recently, and most have them have been loving the whole trilogy. Maybe you just have the opposite of rose tinted glasses for 3
@@DiggitySliceOr maybe you simply have fewer brain cells because "me3 makes me emotional therefore it's a good story"
I like how Joker was the one to deal the killing blow to Sovereign.
I was surprised that when the Sovereign landed and flew away from Eden Prime, his sounds were different from the Reapers in the third part, it was unexpected but cool)
I’ve never understood how or why they didn’t get pics and video of Sovereign on Eden Prime when they saw it in the distance.
Abraham Drinkin I know right? Like 1000s of other colonists would have seen sovereign, the geth, and Saren... and the council would be like, “no asari, turians, or salarians? Doesn’t count then.”
@@silver_desperado Well, to be fair, the Council didn't dispute the Geth attack, they disputed Saren's presence. Only one of the colonists saw him.
Sovereign: I am beyond your understanding....
Also Sovereign: Let me introduce myself
Interesting how they believed in the Reapers at the end of ME1 but not in ME2. I know that things can seem intense in the moment and people can change their minds after processing things, plus there's an element of politics in not wanting the Reapers to be real in ME2. But they really did a complete 180, I can't remember any mention of the fact that the council said "Thank you for saving us from the Reapers" before saying "The Reapers don't exist."
It's just a retcon. Honestly, all you would need to do is cut "and the Reapers" from one sentence and the problem disappears.
Sovereign is tha area 51 endboss
My wet dream: Have Christopher Nolan take on the Mass Effect trilogy.
Motoruven As a Nolan Fanatic, never say never. But outside of Batman (DC), Nolan’s not really into franchises. He’s all about original ideas.
Then he becomes illusive man in real life 😂
Having seen the Battle of the Citadel in the new remaster, it makes Sovereign look even cooler
"Hard on my flank! We're going in!" Will still be one of my top 10 video games moments.
Saren is an UNDERRATED villian though
Only a star dreadnought like a bellator can defeat the sovereign
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Boy howdy anyone walking into Mass Effect 1 with zero spoilers seeing the first Reaper in that first scene...
like I did at the beginning,
would think that's a massive fucking hand.
0:45 was so creepy and amazing.
ME:1 was really the BEST ME game out of them all, and Sovereign was the pinnacle of what a Reaper was. A way better antagonist than Harbinger.
9:15 When you move back to your first house and find out someone ruined with shit on the walls
That last scene, he should have just taken his willie out and peed on sovereigns wreckage to assert his dominance ;)
R.I.P. Sovereign
9:30 reminds me of a parasite that attaches to the tongue of a fish ... :D
TheNefari IS THAT A WTF 101 REFERENCE?
Most definitely yes :D
the custom Shepard always looks so goofy since it uses npc textures
This is one game I never and i repeat NEVER get bored and to be honest I really get into the game
Can we alll agre Mass Effect deserves a TV series or Movie triology, suchhhh an epic universe!
no, they will ruin it. let it be a perfect game.
8:59 someone carrying the legacy of HMS Dreadnought
Awww yes. When shepherd warns everyone about the reapers and......ME3 they then start believing.
Krogan: I hope politicians appreciate you shepherd.
...
Me: they tried to retire him but ME3 changed that almost immediately.
Lol Shepherd looks like Robert Whittaker
Nice video! Doing an incredible job keep it up!
Never appreciated the Reapers not acknowledging their creators, seems like they absorbed and harvested them like all the later civilisations so even then they have a beginning as organic life. Even if it was millions of years ago
1:12 thought at first that was a giant hand.
I'm looking forward to seeing how different Sovereign will look with ME Legendary Edition. (I'm aware I'm probably over-hyping it with that statement, and I'm sorry if it's annoying, but I'm looking forward to the game(s) being released)
Sovereign sounds far different than Harbonger. But Reapers are made from BOTH organic and synthetic civilizations. My theory is that Sovereign, unlike Harbinger, is made from a harvested civilization of AIs, and because of that it sounds so metallic and alien. Moreover it loaths Geth (who ironically worship it as their god), not jus because they were not like it, but because they reminded it of its weak, past life before Reaperization.
is sovereign the only "good" reaper?
I think its the only reaper that had a post relevant story with direct affect on the games trajectory so it was the only one with a very Palpable impact and personality, so I guess yeah it was
@@mep15067 Harbinger directing the Collectors for the whole game doesn't drive the plot?
They grow so fast
Hey Jaguar550 question. Reapers leaves the Citadel and Mass relay so that humans can evolve. Just so they can destroy them. If the humans never found those would the Reapers never have show up? Like Sovereign says the Reapers wanna them in the path of evolution just to extinct them.
Basically what Brett said if humanity didn't find the Relays in time then they would have just been the next cycles empire and the Reapers would have ignored them because since we didn't discover the Mass Relays they would have seen us as "too primitive"
If a race can't even learn to use the mass relays, let alone have the means to traverse the galaxy like the turians, asari, salarians, etc. Then the reapers simply will ignore them as they aren't considered intelligent enough to be harvested. However though that doesn't mean they're safe 100%, the moment they gain the ability to travel via their star system's mass relay and to the citadel is when they'll be noticed and collected during the next cycle of extinction.
Best GOAT!
Space Robot Cthulhu.
Vi as in ... THE LEGENDARY TEXT EDITOR ?
Mihai Lazar virtual interface
The monke
I always pick Udina...
Really? Why? I'm interested to hear your reasoning.
all that for 1 reaper
I didn’t save the council
In the entire battle for the citadel, Joker fired only one(!!) shot.
harbinger next ?
Shep faces codes ?
I don't know because this video is from the old trilogy and did not use face codes in ME1.
@@jaguar550 Oh thx for answer anyway :))
9:36 and onwards is hot.
I don't get it, they acknowledge Sovereign and Reapers in their speech many times then the council pretended he is just a ship in ME 2?
We've dismissed those claims
Edesse Sapere the council’s a moron
I didn’t understand that either’ it’s a total retcon!
So don’t bother saving the council? /rhetorical
In ME3 citadel DLC, it's stated that the council secretly acknowledged the Reaper threat and were making preparations for their arrival, I have no idea why they still denied it in front of Shepard though, the guy who literally discovered the Reaper threat.
I was like who’s the black dude :)
GG
nope , flawed strategy waste of resources laying into reapers long term..saving whats supposed to be replacebal representants at the expense of un-replacebal hardware..
yes..I always leet them die in evry play XD
Think about it.
If you save them, the Alliance fleet attacks the Geth ships while they're distracted with the Ascension and Sovereign is occupied somewhere else.
If you don't save them, after the Ascension is destroyed the Geth ships have more than enough time to move into defensive positions around Sovereign.
So you can either send the fleet at the Geth while they're distracted, or you can send the fleet at Sovereign and the Geth in defensive positions.
@@DiggitySlice or use the fact the geth ships needs to stay in attack formation to make use of ther current advantage and send your alliance fleet right into what until your arrival was a 'secure' flank and just butcher them swiftly for the price of one complacent council and ther personal flag ship... so that sovergin is alone when the citadel re-opens for the fleet to strike is ship self directly, ;)
when it comes down to it ,both strategies are valid from a combat perspective..
but from a long term agenda one , one leaves you with dead weight that partly caused the current situation by doing exactly what the reapers 'scheduled' to happen when they left tech around..
and the other without that dead weight and a nice fresh open spot for allies to reconsider what sort of behavior and agendas the representatives they put in charge of society resources for the next few centuries should have.
so its basicly , the aftermath consideration of...save the 'clout' to have political favor...but so to speak 'tainted' meat in the system...
or dont save ,no clout and a heap of animosity but on the other hand the best chance for a 'system purge'
..personly simply leans towards the sacrifice one for the simple reason they got explicit warning that things no longer was a sole political question of a rouge agent , and yet they still only took political measures agenst it that speaks of a lack of ability to adapt that only become more lethal the more severe things gets one way or another.
after all they could done something like at least a cover 'ghost' re-deployment of some small fleet assets to stay of the radar from the standard citadel defense fleet and hit potential geth invasions in the back when they strike the citadel defense fleet at leat until it either been confirmed the back door into it been secured and powered down , or confirmed none existent.
either way , forgot a left a comment here , and never expect anyone to have words for it cheers mate! nothing wrong with saving em...guess i might been suspecting how EA would ruin the franchisee so i took out the frustration in advance of the complacent fictional council XD
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There is one really weak part about the story of mass effect...the villain story. Sure the concept is interesting but the presentation is awful. The reaper reveals himself to explain his nature and motives over a shitty hologram. There is nothing cinematic here. Remember the reveal of gravemind and the didact in halo? Our protagonists fall into a dark hole. Gravemind has already demonstrated his power by controlling ais, infecting the halo, wiping out whole armies. Now...This disgusting green monster holds up the two characters with giant tentacles and speaks in sonnets. The didact breaks through in full glory and the Covenanters are so awestruck they kneel before him like a god. Throughout the course of four games we have been told how powerful the forerunners were. This is the first time we’ve seen a living forerunner and we learn that the didact is godlike even by forerunner standards. Neither villain feels the need to explain how powerful they are. Instead other characters are used to say “trust me dude. This guy is terrifying.” The poor reapers have to literally advertise their villainy themselves because nobody cares enough to do it for them.
James Moseley Did you forget the part where Sovereign LITERALLY KILLED HUNDREDS OF SOLDIERS IN A FEW SECONDS?
So Sovereign didn't push through an entire fleet by essentially ramming into it and outright ignoring every attempt to take it down because of how insignificant they are to it? Must have missed that. Oh, and mind controlling Saren and making the Geth fall in line.
James Moseley " We are each a nation, independent, free of all weakness" The Reapers are arrogant, and rightfully so because they have been doing this for literally eons and haven't yet been stopped. Some might've come close to defeating them but ultimately none did. And you forget that this is a machine that has (assuming there wasn't a previous reaper vanguard who was killed and Sovereign took over the position relatively recently) presided over the beginning of the eradication of every organic (and synthetic) species in the galaxy for at least 37 million years, judging by age of the derelict reaper. There is an extinction every 50,000 years or so, that is at least 185 billion cycles. Sovereign has had this conversation or something similar like at least 200 billion times. And always succeeded. Arrogance, and overconfidence. Sovereign tells you this because it doesn't care if you know or not, he'd probably tell you anything if you asked. Furthermore, this is an artificial intelligence. It inst going to reason the same way organics do.
@@lauralynnasteriahathaway6819 ...you ..you dont math very well do you?
How the fuck would 185 BILLION cycles occur...in 37 million years? (Especially if every cycle is 50,000 years)
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The universe is only 14 billion years old, milkway 13.5 billion.
If the cycles began right when the milkyway began, then only 270,000 cycles have occured
@@lauralynnasteriahathaway6819
13.5 billion years / 50,000 years per cycle = 270,000 cycles
This is not I want to watch
crybaby
Sovereign: *Long ass self-aggrandizing speech about how he and the Reapers are so great*
I just realized why they sent him on his own.
Years ahead of everyone else.
John Smith because he was fucking annoying as shit!
Harbinger: "The Nazara were a particularly... _grating,_ species both before and after Ascension."
didn't they just let thim there instead of sending him in advance?
@@avestator3763 this joke went wayyyyyy over your head. Dude is just being silly and saying he got their first cause they sent his annoying ass out
@@yourtrappedinmygenjutsu nah, just never told them when they're done with bringing the apocolypse and all that shit and just left his annoying ass there to "be the spearhead"
1:06 It was at this moment I knew Mass Effect would be amazing, not just good. That level of detail, showing the turian mannerism for nervousness, just too perfect.
And then they resorted to doing "air quotes" and other human mannerisms in subsequent games
@@gorchakovvs7750one it has been 25 years since first contact obviously mannerisms would mix two he was making fun of humans and their instance on the reaper threat even tho it is terrible politically to even mention it so obviously he would use a human mannerism here
*SW fans to Lucasfilm*
"you exist because we allow it, and you will end because we demand it. Millions of years after your business has fallen apart and forgotten, we will endure""
Lvl58DeathKnight preach BROTHA!!!!!!
SW fans would never survive a year without Lucasfilm
@@blueshit199 nobody cares about Lucasfilm nowadays due to the trash they've been shitting out
@@GenericUsername-qp1ww is that why you guys never stop bitching about them?
I never appreciated just how good the cinematography was in the original ME trilogy, ME:1 in particular. There are some spectacular shots here... What is that they say? You never realize how much you enjoy something until it is gone. I feel like that. Mass Effect is my Star wars, my Lord of the rings... I hope Bioware finds a way to revive this absolutely amazing universe, it deserves it.
I want to romance Sovereign 😩🥵🥴
you are indoctrinated. 😂😂
BrassCandy He would tear you apart in an instant. 😂😂
such an underrated comment lol!
Is that another way of saying you like tentacle/giant/beastilliaty/machines/snuff?
Not trying to be insulting but thats whats gonna happen if you play with fire!
@Sovereign *mashed into mush, transform to a reaper!*
This was the first Reaper we saw, and he was unstoppable. Just to think that there was an entire army of these, it is the proof that you just need to make a villain untouchable, you don't need an army of them or anything like that. Another thing is that Sovereign was just like the other Reapers, the thing that made him different is that he was kinda old than other models, maybe the second Reaper or something
Wasn't the thing that made him unstoppable here was that he caught everyone off guard by using the rules only the Reapers knew about. The Council send their forces around the Terminus where the majority of the Geth were, presumably at the relays using them as choke points so a token force was left to guard the Citadel. To their understanding there was no way to get to the Citadel without going through their blockade at the relay unaware that the Citadel itself is a Mass Effect relay. Ever race the Reapers wiped out fell for the same trick.
@@ARandomGuy24
The Reapers rely on the galaxy being distracted and caught off guard before they attack.
A united galaxy prepared for them would likely annihilate them, considering that the Reapers can't replenish losses as quickly as a force with the entire galaxy as an industrial base.
@@youraveragescotsman7119 This is an entire fleet. The alliance only has 9 fleets total. Humanity was considered a pretty powerful nation and here one is pretty much decimating an entire fleet right up until Reaper Sauren is killed and it stops working.
In Me2 it's mentioned they're still recouping their losses suffered. That's just from one Reaper that was only killed by it stopping working when it's connection to the Sauren it was controlling stopped. They didn't even beat it, just got beat up on by it until it someone else bluescreened the machine.
@@ARandomGuy24 the dark lord of the rings sauron is in mass effect?
@@ARandomGuy24It wasn't just Sovereign it was also a Geth fleet lol
Even without his voice, just looking at Sovereign and knowing HE SEES YOU, knows you and has witnessed a thousand civilizations rise before striking them down without a second thought is terrifying to fathom. His mere presence drives organic beings, from the wisest of asari matriarchs to the most steadfast of Turian Spectres, to madness. For 50,000 years he's wandered the galaxy alone, watching organics build up from nothing, waiting for the right moment to begin the harvest.
First seeing him on Eden Prime in the distance was like turning a corner and seeing Hell itself made manifest. The way it flies through space like it's an apex predator from the ocean depths. When it learns of the beacon's use, it's even possible that Saren's outburst isn't his anger, but Sovereign's.
His attack on the Citadel is so abrasive and cold, and his final corruption of Saren in a last ditch attempt at kickstarting the Harvest is beyond gruesome. Even the way Sovereign DIES is unnerving as it thrashes about like a wounded animal, unable to contemplate how these primitives could've possible beaten him. And even afterwards, the idea that he's just THE SCOUT for Harbinger and the rest of the Reapers makes it terrifying to even look back up into the sky.
What I'm trying to say is...
*Sovereign scares me.*
Does it seem weird to anyone else to call the Reapers soulless machines?
Organics gained “souls” over time, and by developing. But the reapers have been around MUCH longer!!! They’ve had time to develop these abilities,
FurryEskimo I am not even sure if they can be classified as machine, while they are synthetic, they are created by DNA harvested from other organic races, the human reaper at the end of mass effect 2 for instance. They are unfathomably interesting.
We never got a really solid explanation on how it all works though. :/
Like why didn’t the human reaper give us a fist bump and invite us to chill?
Humans aren’t just killing machines.
FurryEskimo adds to the mystery
Wild Card If that’s how you feel, ok. I felt cheated out of a real story. Too many shows say “you could never understand” and leave it at that. Boring...
What was a HUUUGE let down in the entire trilogy is we didn't get this answer: Were each Reaper independent and had free thoughts and free will? Or was it the Starchild, The Catalyst controlling EVERY Reaper? Was it him talking when we spoke to Sovereign, Harbinger and the Rannoch Reaper?
I ignored Mass Effect 4. Don't know if they answered it there but i highly doubt it.
Saren was a much better villain than illusive man
I have to disagree.
@83rdox read the mass effect novels. He one of those tragic heroes turned into a villain. I dear you to read those interesting novels
I never found the need to compare. I enjoy the whole trilogy and I'm happy about it
We are legion The time of are return is coming are numbers will darken the sky of every world
God I love the Reapers design. I can't help but stare at them during missions on Earth, Palaven's moon and Thessia.
I never get tired of watching Udina pout
*Someone talking to me before my morning coffee*
Me: 3:14
I wish we could play as the Reapers. We would likely have to lose, but it would be a hell of a ride
4:31 - “There’s an entire galaxy of races United and ready to face you”
So that’s a complete lie at this point in time. Hell the Council doesn’t even believe in Reapers for the first two games
The Reapers should consider themselves lucky not being in the Star Trek universe, even the Cardasians can easily kick their ass.
Would've been interesting if sending in the fleet early to save the council had some more negative effects. As far as I can tell it had no negative consequences in ME2 or 3. Now characters that died, no plots relating to the extra losses, not even a slight reduction in war assets. Seeing some extra nameless ships blowing up in a cut scene doesn't feel like much of an impact.
Hell maybe a piece of Sovereign could've escaped.
I saw a video the other day where the replacement Salarian councilor gives you extra war assets that the original one wouldn't, so there may be some little things like that.
7:36
I want an option to romance Sovereign.