Peter Tägtgren: Why I Left Lindemann - Landry.Audio
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Taken from Landry.Audio episode 49 with musician Peter Tägtgren:
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Thanks clickbait, we didn’t learn anything new
Lighten up.... It was an interview
I learned that he really believes in the ancient aine crap, at least he said that. I for myself take it as entertainment. It's better to not believe the things others and strangers claim. xD
@@LeftyotismI do not accept your claim
look up some interviews then, he said it himself @@thirdgen377 I mean he is free to believe what he wants. lol
I can still listen to Hipocrisy songs though.
Peter quit the project when Till keep oriented all the clips about sex, and also about his attitude durings tours. So now you know.
Peter could not follow Lindemanns personal insanity. Richard from Rammstein once told: He’s a damn extreme human being. He gets very deep into situations where I cannot follow him. All he does is very extreme; I don’t know anyone else who does that.”
I loved Lindemann as a band, and it makes me so sad to know that that special sound they created together will never be recreated, but I want the best for these guys and if that's what they want then so be it..
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Chris,
Oh wow. I wrote my feelings. The two albums are just incredible. I wore them out driving everywhere. I liked Lindemann better than Rammstein. Way better. Peter is correct. Their chemistry was incredible. I don’t hate Peter. But I’m very disappointed.
@@Wolf.88 I completely agree, while some of Rammstein's songs I really like, ALL of Lindemann's are amazing. We've witnessed the end of an era :(
@@Wolf.88 It is sad I personally think Rammstein's quality fell after rosenrot. Idk what flake is doing but ever since reise reise He rarely used electronic trance like synth sounds which I believe made them unique. However they still had the guitar/singing melodies to carry them. then starting LIFAD the guitar work became monotone and repetitive simple and random no melody. Lindemann's 2nd album definitely blows Rammstein's last 2 albums out of the water probably even the new one already sounds like its gonna be the same boring crap again. So Lindemann's 2nd album was such an improvement on the first I'm sure the 3rd would've been near perfect
Special sound? You mean sounding like Rammstein, ha ha? That's the reason people liked them, surely.
Those 2 albums are so incredible,I was lucky enough to see them live for the first and last tour ever,it was one of the most memorable shows I ever seen and I've seen many.
I agree with you!..
I'm jealous!! lol
I'm so sad I never got to see Lindemann. At least we got the DVD from Moscow :(
Till is cant sing anymore he just whispering. I can imagine how it looks on stadium show
@@harnkanal88 I saw them in stadium this summer and he sounded amazing.
Lindemann is one of my all time favorite music projects. The combination of Till and Peter is absolutely amazing
It was awesome while it lasted, two very talented artists
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@@LandryBits for what for clickbate
@@harnkanal88 I'm fairly sure it's spelled clickbait. :)
I wish one day Lindemann would return but it probably won’t happen. I liked the extreme and weird content and loved the music.
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Till Lindemann is releasing another album soon. A few videos released.
@@jagray85I still follow all of what Till releases. It was partially to my understanding 2 guys making music but now we lost the guy (and/or people) who were making the instrumental part. In that happening I feel like the overall sound has changed. I feel like with Peter it was more usual rock instruments but now there is a lot more keyboard stuff. Not saying it’s bad but it’s a change.
I am excited for Zunge I got the fan box edition and I believe the special edition (tried looking it up but only the fan box and vinyl editions are for sale on the Rammstein store) just because it sounded like the box edition was missing the art book. I have been listening to the album on the UA-cam generated channel or whatever (the whole album has been on UA-cam for a few weeks).
I really loved both of these genius artist together I am truly sad to know they will no longer play together. I absolutely loved the tour that they did in Russia.... Very sad to hear this news 😭
Amazing how much Peter managed to communicate about the downfall of the Lindemann project without dishing dirt. Even now, he has been remarkably restrained in the face of the unfolding scandal Peter’s a class act.
do you think they split because of lindemann's relationship to women which would be expressed in the image of the band? or maybe because he did not agree to what till does backstage?
@@abefroman3466 Hi. Source?
@@abefroman3466but nothing proven.he is innocent
@@abefroman3466 Sorry kiddo, you are the idiot here. Still no evidence of any crime. No "victim" went to speak to the prosecutor when the investigation was still going. If after all this time you still believe this bullshit, boy, you need some help
Peter is just simple family type of guy, and the shit Till had in his head for last couple of years is probably too much for Peter. Music is good, but too much obsession with porn and nudity from Till's side.
I think Peter is just trying to avoid being connected to this shit, + he is not that kind of guy who is going to complain on others in front of media, journalists, etc so he keeps it silence.
I have to agree with you on that one
I already hear people saying he is an antivaxer. And yes, people say that. But I refused to believe it. Will he ever make a clear statement? There is a bg difference in wondering about something and believing in something.
@@Leftyotism can I ask? What does being an anti-vaxxer have to do with anything?
@@karonhollingsworth2049 Read what I wrote, and use your brain? It's all in there. Don't know what else you mean.
@@Leftyotism my my my.... So angry.... And for what?
Such a great combo. Deep respect for not dissing L. Knowing some local bands; often by the end of a set they'd not be talking to each other, it happens, differences emerge over time and become unreasonable.
I love this guy, Peter Täggren is the King of Metal. My first ever Metal Album and Metal song I heard was Hypocrisy back in 1999 :)) Greetings from Stockholm
hahahaha
*Tägtgren
I seem to be the only one who didn’t hear any answer to the promised “why”.
I’ve interviewed Peter on Swedish radio in the end of the 90’s and he was (and still is) the nicest guy ever. So genuine and so polite. And incredibly talented!
Same here, I didn't really get why he left. Maybee he hinted that Till was a little too much for him, but either that that he didn't say much else.
You're not the only one) I still have no clue why he left after this video. It's all reading between the lines and speculation 🤷🏻♀️
In my humble opinion, Lindemann is a man too obsessed with sex and his grotesque imagery is not fresh anymore.
@@andreanesta193 I've heard that sex obsession is kind of a German thing, so no surprise there.
He didn’t leave. Till owned it all and moved on for some reason. Peter didn’t know about the concert release and the press release took him by surprise too. Misleading headline.
Peter we will miss you, you 2 were an insanely good combination.
the music they created will be some of the best rock out there, very underrated
Awe, I really love those two albums. But I can definitely understand, Till has a lot of energy and he's been doing Rammstein for so long that it seeps into his other work, he's almost 60 so I have a feeling that he just wants to go out with a bang. I can appreciate that. But I hope Peter all the best, since Lindemann I've became a fan of his.
That`s not it, the guy is an ego maniac. Peter was writing all the music and Till was still believing he was the mastermind... you get a guy like Peter that produced... everyone in the industry... and you got Till... who can barely shit 1 album every 3-4 years.
@@evalangley3985 Till was who write the lyrics, Peter the production
I’m quite sure Rammstein didn’t release an Album for close to 10 years, (2009-2019) and those albums are very well made, a lot of tender luv and care is put into them to ensure they’re well distinguished frm each other ❤
he looks like a viking ❤️
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Well, he is Swedish ;)
Sad to see him go, he had such a great stage presence and the pig-tails in his hair were freaky-awesome!!
Fantastic music too!!
2 excellent albums. It’s a shame it ran its course, but that’s life. Both are amazing musicians individually. Tagtgren is arguably the greatest metal producer ever. Till is one of the best front men ever.
I look forward to their projects in the future for sure and hope/pray that Rammstein tour in the US actually happens this year haha.
I was just too young to go on their tour, sadly now there will be no more of this project... On other hand I am happy that i successfully got a live in Moscow special box edition i am so happy with it
He definitely left because of the Platz Eins nonsense. I don’t personally see an issue with it, but I can appreciate the fact that it would turn off some people quite a lot. It’s not something everyone wants to be associated with.
It really is a shame, because they were excellent together.
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much belief, too much ^^
Please elaborate?
Why would he leave becasue of Platz Eins? I think it all went down once Till started to go on his porn rampage and it was more about porn, controversty thing and it affected lifestyle of band. Peter likes to do music and create. Till seems to enjoy what comes with it. The power, the affection he has, opportunities and so on. As Peter said they worked really well together musicaly but not outside of it. They are friends but controversy is not Peter wants to be associated with. There are probably 5 people in this field that can. You know Flake, Oliver, Richard, Schneider and Paul :D but I am curious why Platz Eins is the problem?
@@majorshaker6870 Platz Eins was part of the porn problem. Likely the straw that broke the camels back.
omg I absolutely loved this band. Peter Tagtren + Till Lindemann were pure magic. I'm so sad that you are going your separate ways. I hope you find your way back together again.
Man .... this sucks to learn about (way late). Lindemann was a fantastic group. I'd better get the vinyls now while I still can.
This is the first I'm hearing of it and I had the same thought. I already have almost every vinyl album from Rammstein, now I'll have to snatch up everything from Lindemann while I can
You must be truly obsessed with them 😂
It was not a group... it was Peter teaching Rammstein how to make music...
First of all The cultural differences between the countries of origin of the two(Peter & Till) are vastly different is social norms. Sweden has kept there porn industry very classic and tasteful to the extreme while Germans are far out on the fringes of the the other side of that extreme. Till has for many years has gone for shock value while Peter let's his actions speak for his talent. Till has no need to do any of the shock value stuff he's very brilliant. Although to some platz eins video was too much others didn't mind its content. if you follow any artist you know they disagree on where the band is going and it is what it is, Both are great at their selected crafts . It is the Scandinavian way to not say maliciousness. I will truly miss this duo and wish all the best.
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I think your post is one of the longest and most pointless ramblings. You didn’t say anything. Basically, you comment “eh, sometimes snow flakes fall, sometimes there is no snow.” ……
@@thorsnightmare1123 I think the snow flakes thing is the most relevant and interesting point in your commend, but I have to rectify something: sometimes snow flakes fall and still there is no snow, 'cause I eat 'em all.
@@thorsnightmare1123 Very strongly disagree,your post is the poinltess one here .
Not sure why people are negative to this comment. Makes a lot of sense to me based on what I know about both countries. Sweden is very feminist and Germany is very liberal. People make think stuff like that is just superficial, but being Norwegian I really felt that different when living in the US e.g.
Having listened to Till's new material, this dude immediately came to mind. Wish he had stuck around for, at least, one more album.
Being from TX, I loved Rammstein first. Just discovered Lindemann's side projects. Love it. Watched the Platz Eins video and i absolutely love Peter! Being a Bowie fan, he got bonus points. He seems like a really cool dud & is a amazing musician. Can't wait to discover his work!
Very sad they've parted ways. Such incredible things rarely last long, anyway. Also, I had no idea this dude looked so badass I love it!
Working with till looks hard. But man... This duo was fantastic. The lindemann thing is not the same without peter. Hope they will get back in working together in the future. Never say never...
Exactly what I came to understand... it was Till band... and Peter was doing all the work...
I think he answered the question, just in a diplomatic way. Till was in charge of the image, Peter the music. When it was great it was great, when it wasn't it really wasn't. There has been a lot of fallout from the porn videos, especially the cross over with parts being filmed at Rammstein concerts, and playing the video at concerts as well as the treatment of the girls in the vidoes. Rammstein has always had a cheeky side but there is a huge difference between innuendo and literal porn. Maybe Till doesn't care but the people he collaborates with, and the fans, do.
On the business side, Till insists on working with Zoran Bihać (who directed platz eins). Zoran has previously directed videos for Rammstein but after a falling out with Richard and possibly other band members over budgets he has not been hired again. Zoran himself has said that he has told Till to "just forget about the budget". I can imagine Zoran's excessiveness being a cause of conflict. Zoran is extreme and unprofessional from a business perspective and ultimately musicians need to make money, not waste it on uncreative directors. I don't think it has been lost on anyone that Peter was not present for the filming of the more extreme parts of the music videos and I wonder if he actually knew what was being planned.
I like these arguments. It makes sense.
two girls sucking Tills dick during Richards Deutschland Techno mix apperantly@cristiandavidotalorapena5978
Peter said he used to take care about music and Till about image.
It makes sense if they had a disjunction, because Peter is not the type of person obsessed with porn or showing sexual content or too much explicit (or even just sexual).
Those two albums are on a league of their own
Sounds like it can be summed up as them having "creative differences." It would be great if they got together and did an album of more songs like Yukon though, really like that one personally. Maybe that's more where Peter wanted to take the project and Till had other ideas.
It probably got too extreme and trashy for Peter's taste. I mean, not everyone would want to be associated with basically a porn project which Till turned it into
yeah, especially that it's not just "porn". "Just porn" is what I call a regular Brazzers Johnny Sins movie with a young lady that comes to a doctor. Lindemann is an extreme violent brutal porn. I would quit such band too
Por proyect?? Dont make me laugh till was the real del and is Peter is..... Who is he again?
Foreals….im glad Peter got out of there….what til went through this past year…it explains why Peter left….good for him ….
I can't say that was really insightful at all. In any case, it doesn't seem like there's any animosity. So that's nice. Side projects like this, hey, maybe they'll just decide to do more again one day. Big musicians aren't really tied down in any way. And for now we got a solid pile of sweet music from them. That's not going anywhere.
So as a person who knows Peter I can tell what I heard him say to someone at a bar we were at once:
Till simply partied to hard in Russia where he more or less lived for a good while. There he started making music on his own without Peter. All while Peter wanted to tour more and Till really didn’t care as much because he had Rammstein for that.
Also Peter’s girlfriend didn’t like Till at all. Most because of Till’s way of treating women in his videos (take a look at Till The End). That made her not wanting to do anything with him. She is also some type of manager to Peter and she said that she would not tour next to Till. And that’s where they chose to go separate ways.
Would love to have a drink with Peter, hes such an great and creative musican+producer
@@seb.sch.8905 well yes he’s quite dedicated to the music, a lot of talent
Make sense😮
I really don't believe he choose to part ways cuz his gf said she didn't like how he portrays women cuz there are plenty of women that work with Till that's just his storyline persona but I do believe that story Till ignored Peter in Russia cuz live in Moscow was their last recorded video ever .
@@ivaerz4977 not the main reason but one of many, it ads up in the end
I have a feeling the fallout from the xxx video they made with the groupies led to their split but it's just a hunch... either way, it's sad because they were so good together.
Honestly Iv been losing respect for Till ever since that video. There’s a fine line between art and porn. And he is not doing art….he’s doing her.
I think so too. Peter was in the videos too but not much if I remember correctly. I think there must have been a line of 'shocking' and 'okay we are doing porn wtf'
@@MissieK Not only the video itself but afterwards when the girls were getting harassed online because of the fact that they were easy to track down. The entire Lindemann project just kept getting more and more x rated so I also feel like Till was probably pushing them to do even more perverted stuff to top the last perverted stuff and Peter just had enough. 😄
@@chelleb3055 I didn't know about the girl parts. I did watch the videos and after that avoided it everything else. I loved the album but watching Platz Eins being turned into that video and oh so gross was too much for me.
I do believe you're correct
I found out they’d broken up by having this pop into my recommended. Bummer.
Let's be real.. Till is a very extreme individual. Just watch the x rated versions of pretty much every single,and you know he pushes boundaries not many want to cross.. maybe Peter just didn't want that
I cant imagine who would ever want that ... Peter looks like pretty down to earth guy
Where can I find the x rated version
I’m not sure about the things Till does that falls under the X rated version, although I do agree it’s for mature audiences, But he’s a Artist 🥰😘, and I do appreciate his werk!
Good call - quit when it's still good, before it grows sour. Now we can enjoy all they put out together without any bad tastes in our mouths. And we got a new Hypocrisy album in 2021!
Hes not even lying this duo was totally op, if they continued together they would conquer the world
Till is the center of the universe....not everyone likes to follow orders.
I hope there will be more it really was great!
This only makes me ask more questions! Why! I can see very easily til could be hard to work with but aren't we all at times
Professional response. Character clash - it happens
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Classy responses great music 🎶🎶
It was a great combo. Sometimes you just gotta know when to step away though.
Are they still friends? i hope so i loved watching the makings of the videos...him and till were funny and i could tell they were close.
Till is a madman. He always finds a way to outdo himself.
So where was the reason? Am i dumb? 🤔
It is such a shame that it didn't work out.
0:46 I hope Peter is able to find another collaborator who inspires him this much again
did i miss something? i still dont know why he left which the name of the video promissed
По существу он ничего не ответил. "Тилль был няшкой, у нас всё было хорошо, но вот просто пришла пора разойтись".
Спасибо
Very diplomatic reasoning. Like any relationship... "It was good when it was good & it wasn't when it wasn't".
Perhaps Peter just respected himself & Till enough to know when the end had to commence & he was man enough to enact it.
So this video is clickbait? He did not provide any reason why he left.
Pity these two guys don't work together anymore. I loved them together. Maybe it is just a time for them to separate. Who knows...
Well this hits different now.
Well done Peter! Hypocrisy for ever! Damn that new song Dead World is awesome. 👍
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That's a non answer. I think the main disagreement was the image. They had no problems in the studio but Peter probably wanted something different and changing Till Lindemann's mind on something is nearly impossible. His ego is huge, even though he may be a down to Earth & humble man. When it comes to his artistic presentation, he has a vision and he will not compromise. It's probably why Rammstein only goes into the studio every 10 years.
The thing was Rammstein was mostly cause they all had big issues while making Lifad. And after that Album they had no contract or anything for a new full length release.
This year I already saw Peter with Hypocrisy and later in the year I will see both Rammstein and Lindemann with the new band line-up, but it is a damn shame that I won't be seeing Till with Peter on stage together
What??? I had no idea. This dude is a legend in my book
Sorrow.. ☹️😔
Love this dude. Sad he left
I think that even if Till is easy for him to work with, he isn't easy to be around. IMO the pron shi was only one of their problems. But that's just speculation.
Also, Peter is funny in Pain videos as well.
AHH, this is the other guy from the cover ^^ I didn't know he left the project, that's unfortunate :/
I never really liked Ramstein all that much, but I really enjoy Lindemann albums. especially skills in pills ^^
Till Lindemann, and Peter Tagtgren remind of the dynamic that Depeche Mode's Martin Gore, and Alan Wilder had. Shame they had to part ways as well.
I know, that im hearing impaired but i think i totally missed the "why" part in the video. maybe someon can explain it do me :)
So can we now hear the story why Till left Peter ? Thx
bring it back yoooo
God bless Peter.
So sad to have learned that I will not hear a new Lindemann song :(
Well ain’t that a kick in the balls……..
Two Musical masterminds. I personally have higher respect to Peters work.
Are you Finnish?
I agree. Rammstein's success is a group effort, of which success 40% are the violent crazy shows, videos, imagery, blood etc. Peter is all about good quality music, no matter if it's Hypocrisy, Pain, best Bloodbath album or producing other great metal albums.
Honestly, no direct answer was given to why he left, it's still up for interpretation from this. Basically there were too much of those "it wasn't good when it wasn't good" type of situations, no specifics.
Let a little water flow down the river, then pull yourselves together and unite again.
This is still saddening. Off topic: Does anyone else thinks Peter Tägtgren looks a bit like Steve Buscemi in the videos?
Everything I love doesn't last
So... why?
Y si lo traducen al español, por favor.... saludos desde México
I loved that first album.Hated the second one.
der hat das ganz richtig gemacht 👍👍👍
Did they have a row zero too?
No but now you know why Peter left Lindemann. Till is a coke addicted sex addict, & narcissist.
@@Punchmemommy do you know him?
Damn. Johnny Depp is super old in this video.
He's still recovering from Amber :D
😢
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Based on how the question was brought up as well as Peter's hesitance to talk about it in any depth, I feel it's a little misleading and tasteless to title this video in the 1st person of Peter.
Homer, Cicero. Nice!
Lindemann was awesome cause Peter composing in different genres on second album. And now its gone(
He really did the absolute best he possibly could to refuse to answer that question. The "answer" he gave was such a nonanswer, like: It was great, except for when it wasn't. That doesn't mean anything, at all. If he doesn't want to tell us why he decided to call it quits then fine. But if you want to give us an answer then give us a real answer, instead of being intentionally vague and tiptoe around the subject.
That Lindemann would have become the greatest band of all time if Peter would have stayed, i highly doubt it. And even if that would be true, then why did he leave?
I also doubt, from the very beginning Lindemann sounded to me like a compilation of Rammstein unreleased techno mixes. Sure, it's still quality music, but it's not even close to Rammstein level
I think the real reason is that Peter just was overhwelmed by Till's fame. Peter never was part of band that huge or famous as Rammstein are (not even partially close). Many people just cannot handle when they got recodnized on the street all of a sudden. I appreciate the fact that he's not blaming anyone, but... then again... Lindemann was just to big for him to join.
And I acgtually can understand that. One day you're the lion of your village, then you join a pack and suddenly it turns out you're just a kitten to the world. That's a scary experience. Some grow out of it, some don't.
hi , love rammstein but this was really a mitlife crysis of him. sry for destroying your "what ever". didnt know this other guy bevore lindeman project. and if you still dont believe me . .............mathematic ???????? really ?
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So sad.. very very sad 😪
Nice goalie mask in the background! :D
Sad ☹️😢
Holy fk Johnny Depp has let himself go!
Sooo why? I dont get it
For me as 20 year lindemann fan it doesnt matter if peter is on board or not ...its always epic😊😊❤❤
Uhm why did he leave....kinda missed it? He didn t give an answer to the question so why make up the title when he doesn t respond to your question.....really
Not answering the question also tells a lot.
@@Rehunauris True!!
It's the Rammstein curse... And only Till can escape from it
What the hell are you talking about??
Fuuuuuck! Just found this and it ruined my Christmas 😭
Люди, кто понял о чем они говорят, можете мне перевести?
He basically didn’t give us any straightforward answers. Just said that the band ended and that’s it.
@@raviliberato759 спасибо
Музыка писалась легко, идеи лились, стоило им друг на друга посмотреть, и если б проект продолжался и рос, он мог бы стать действительно большим. Тиль отвечал за картинку, Питер- за музыку. Было круто, когда было круто, но было некруто, когда не было круто. Как-то так, никакой конкретики.