The Strongest Build I've Ever Played
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- Cyclone CwC Poison Soulrend is probably the strongest overall build that I've ever made. Solid poison damage with amazing defenses easily carries through some of the hardest content in the game.
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Build Guide: ua-cam.com/video/zT366ScUVOs/v-deo.html
Dagger Craft: necropolis.pathoftools.com/a8d9bea1-a38b-47f2-9877-7e127d6beb2f
damn, what's the music used o-o
@@sillydude96ify I think it's from Oppenheimer ost
Any craft guide for that perandus jewel?
Also wanted to add for anyone else playing this build: Another option for dropping Herald of Agony is to craft 15% chance to poison on hit on your gloves with Grand Eater of Worlds (replacing the chaos leech).
You don't need the leech?
@@crossjoint1295 Not really. Most of our life is coming from the life flask being up all the time.
bro you're a lifesaver
Been playing this build since shortly after you posted the first video. Absolutely love it. I was playing your CoC Forbidden Rite Occultist from a few leagues ago and keeping it on life support for over a year but I'm so happy with this new one.
Thanks for putting in all the work, man 👊👌
Another well planned and thought out build.. Thank you! I think I'm going to bookmark this and make it my bosser/mapper for next league... CBF starting a new build now hahaha
Iv litteraly played this build for the past year making little changes and improvements every time I love it
Thanks for sharing! Looks nice
this build feels so good thanks sir !!
Putting Lilith’s Phase 2 OST was all I needed
Might have to try this out once I get the challenges out of the way. I swapped my cant on stun build over to a trickster MS build to bully some bosses with, hopefully. If I have time after this looks fun, I miss soulrend.
I've always found septic spells cluster jewels a great way to get poison chance but i totally forgot those tattoos got added lol
2 things:
1st just did slightly different graveyardcraft for dagger... hit (sadly) only +1 chaos buuut got t1 chaosdott t1 multi + t1 poisonchance dmg with poison so im still pretty happy... (for some reason t1 mana hit on 3rd pref...)
also u can buy 30% quality divine life flask its only 1 div and i think 500 more health over flask duration!
thx for the guide looking forward to do that=P
Will probably play that one next league.
I did a Cyclone Ironmass minion build this round and I was using Soulrend at first. Noticed the same things you did, but Soulrend was not a good option for Ironmass obviously.
The Great Catmargeddon 🙏
How do you craft the dagger after getting the fractures?
That soundtrack gloves me ptbs
I wonder what Subtractem wanted to hit on dagger craft, because to get something close to his "unwanted" result I did 6 graveyards and spent about 150 divs. Good thing that T1 chaos res and T1 intelligence are interchangeable since I can swap them on other rares
How do you finish the craft of the dagger?
Nice choose of music
how did you craft your weopen post GY drop?
That's some girthy OPness! What's the song boss?
I am in ssf and can’t do Ubers really. Is there another option for belts?
Sorry but how do i craft +1 level of all skill gem?
Hey there,
How would you go about crafting that dagger for next league?
I found a decent way to do it on craft of exile, but it's kinda expensive, wondering if there's a faster/cheaper way?
Start with fractured Dot Multi
Alt Spam for +1 All
Multi+Cannot Attack+Any Prefix
Harvest Add/Remove Chaos
Finish with multimod & crafts?
dang it i have to make another alt? this looks awesome
Watched this build on stream. Feels like the Dragonfang could be put down for a defiance AND that the dagger (or dark seer) could be set aside for a Mahuxotl's + Tempered by War timeless jewel, though that seems to compete with the perandus jewel slot. Even if it cuts the damage by a good chunk, the additional survival might be worth it.
I mean...I was running -35 max res maps and other insane mods that would even go through those defensive layers.
I think the reasonable additional layer could be investing into recoup to get more value out of pb and progenesis
@@subtractem yeaahhhhh...lesson learned: have a loreweave on hand so you can run those BTB -max res maps =P
Cool build!! I've never done a high end poison (or DOT) build before. Is this build limited by a DOT cap that I always hear about?
Yep
Dot cap is 36m so it’s still very good dps
Having any more than that just lets you hit cap faster, or get to cap against Ubers
Thanks so much for this, I have been loving this build. I had a question, would skill effect duration be beneficial to damage? I have a set up where i get the extra int from my helmet and am considering a dagger that has increased skill effect duration instead of intelligence.
Again many thanks!
It doesn't no
Every time I see a CwC build I think how I can build a version with Saboteur's Triggerbots
On the chest- which corruption implicit between the two would be better (if you need to choose one) as I cannot find a chest with both and expect it to be extremly expensive as well?
Would love a starter guide with trees. I know its a lot to ask but love soulrend so maybe next league?
He said to level as Toxic Rain. This build won't really work well leveling because of the items it needs.
The build really wouldn't be comfortable before level 90 so you'd just play poison concoction or something before then. If nothing changes or it's buffed next league I might explore options.
Any good alternates for Forbidden Flesh/Flame Endless Munitions (currently 300 D)? Or just plug in extra damage points on the tree?
Hey Subtractem, always love your builds and guides! Question: you mention the ultra high end tweaks such as adorned and voices, do you (or anyone else here) happen to have a PoB for something like that? Going towards min/maxing the heck outta this one.
I don't. In fact I looked into it and I'm not sure it's worth it. You could sacrifice defense and do it but you'd lose a core build identity.
The idea would be to get two 1 passive voices and get poison synth adorned jewels. Could definitely get to some wild damage numbers.
Conversely you could do life on the prefix to balance the defense a bit, would have to pob it though.
Something tells me that if i tried this build on my current workplace PC i d be measuring stuff in SPF ... Seconds Per Frame
I see you use a divine life flask, have you try Hallowed life flask for longer duration but less recovery?
Trust me.... You will need the recovery... A lot... If you can put an eternal flask better than divine .. Less duration but worth it
Hi @subtractem, loving your build! Definitely strongest build I have ever played too! Was wondering how you handle curse immunity? Dont ur cyclone get constantly interrupted by stuns?
Also, seen you playing with ruby and topaz flask (dropping progenesis) to increase max ele res. Is it smth you consistently do?
Thx for your time and keep doing the great work! ;)
- I generally don't care about most curses. I am over capped for Elemental Weakness, I take no physical damage for Vulnerability, Temp Chains/Enfeeble I ignore.
- Awakened Cast While Channeling makes you stun immune
- I use my Progenesis in T17 maps but not in T16s since I'm tanky enough anyway.
Completely makes sense, thx!
I dropped lethal pride bcz I have a legacy taste of hate so I already have 100% phys taken as ele. And dont need the extra strength. Any recommendation for what to replace it with?
what item level must the corpses have?
Is this build better than Ruetoo coc DD?
How do you get your mana up enough to use malevolence and purity of elements and grace all together? Loving the build just having trouble with that
Edit. I figured it out. Put a ton of es on my gear and it's smooth as now. Tomorrow or tonight I'll be crafting that dagger
What's a good idea for a cheap amulet slot? I've been looking at doing a fun pathfinder build and this one ticks all the boxes of what I'm looking for, but the price of the replica dragonfang got blown out of the water by your build guide. Maybe a +1 chaos +1 all skill gems rare or something?
Guess I'll mess around with the PoB and see if I can find anything.
yeah +1/+1 with dot multi is just as good if not better than dragonfang, it's just tighter on reservation efficiency and stats but it makes up for it in resists/life.
@@subtractem less than 48 hours since I've sold my +2/+2 40% dot multi :(
can someone tell me how to craft the remaining mods on the dagger? i just grave crafted one exactly like his on this video
Reforge chao until t1 suffix increased poison damage. Then suffix cannot be changed, reforge chao until +1 chao spell. Use bench crafting the last prefix.
may I ask, why do you not use the Lightning Coil in this build? Is there a drawback to it, considering one might be able to gap the -lightning res?
The res difference of over 100 is the biggest reason, yes. Resists are tight enough on this build already and you would struggle to cap them with a Coil.
With that said, you could replace the Lethal Pride and use a Coil but it'd still be tough. Other thing is that you get a little Energy Shield from a Cloak and the Cloak's conversion also works for Damage over Time where the Coil's only works for hits.;
beauty
id buy this build for sure, was gonna try and make it/buy items from trader but not enough on there. rip
whats the actual dps of this version of the build? idk if the pob is super accurate for dps of poison builds
It varies so much depending on how accurately and for how long you can stand on a monster. My setup hits 150 million raw DPS but it gets truncated by Poison DPS cap at 35.7 million.
This scales as we fight monsters that take less damage so going over the DPS cap matters, particularly for Ubers and Delirium monsters that have less damage taken.
For example: if a monster has 50% less damage taken, your raw poison DPS cap is actually 70.4 million instead of 35.7.
This looks nice! Is this build more scalable with Adorned and whatnot?
Yes, I might try to go for an adorned setup but it's going to be annoying/expensive because I'll have to buy a Voices.
Swapping old school coc cats to channeling cats, looks dooze!
Wish i didnt just dump all my divs into ragetex, this is what i wanted all league
Maybe this weekend is the best time to get the cat MTX & enjoy a free mystery box. 😂
@Subtractem , Why is there 24 projectiles linked to Soulrend in the Uber build PoB , wouldn't it only be 2 projectiles for the one outgoing and the returning projectile ? Makes a HUGE difference in the dps numbers so curious.
No, we shoot 12 out and 12 return. If you stand exactly inside the monster all of them will hit.
It's actually 15 + 15 if you use a Dying Sun.
@@subtractem ty for quick reply
What t17 b2b regex?
Is that outro song custom? Shazam had nothing 😅
cammy theme from street fighter 6!
Ok there were a few changes I made to this build, the I changed 3 endless jewels for quarts infusion, free phasing and 40% of suppression giving me 4 nodes on the tree /room to remove suppression on the gear for 18-25 div Vs 500 div for +2 projectiles.
That's fine for lower investment but nothing compares really to endless munitions. That's roughly 14 poison stacks per second that you're giving up.
@@subtractem Hwb Gathering Winds instead of Endless Munitions due to no QS Flask and all? Feel like I might do enough dmg with having Nimis/Anathema and I using a Focused Amulet +2Skill/+2Chaos/%ChaosDmg.
Build Cost ?
I'm sure you have a key swap, right click malev ? Are you a madman?!
Nope, right click is always buffs for me, Q is main skill :)
@@subtractem *Faints*
@@subtractemactual madman
Where is the intro music from?
I swear i heard it recently, but can't remember where
Bastion
If anyone else wonders: it's D4 final boss 2nd phase theme
And "recently" is apparently year ago, turns out OST was the only memorable part of the game.
Oh woops thought this was from a different video. Yeah it's the Lilith boss music.
Hi ! I'm a bit late but this build looks very interesting, i'd like to try it .. but i'm not 100% sure what to do, mostly with the ES. At one point in the video it's said that we need "enough" ES, but i can't figure how much is that :( Could anyone help me with that plz ?
Thanks a lot anyway !
stupid question - how do you get ES as your cost to skills without using EB? i cant see how it works in your POB sorry
Replica sorrow flask
@@subtractem tyvm. Is it possible to use Devouring Diadem instead?
Not really no. You need the life flask as es. Also you'd lose a lot of physical defense.
@@subtractem ty for taking the time to reply. thx for everything
Is there a regex for t17 map mods NOT to run?
I avoid basic stupid T17 mods (marked for death, shaper touched, meteors, etc.) but general mods such as reduced flask charges, less recovery rate or monsters have % chance to avoid poison should prolly be avoided.
Hi guys, why use Arcanist brand, can we swap it with a cast when Damage Taken? Its always 1 spell less to use.
That's a very good question. I'd definitely try it
It can work but will be unreliable if you don't get hit. Also you'll have to lower the level of your curses to match the CWDT level.
The really nice thing about Arcanist Brand is that you can place it before the boss comes out. Since we are Evasion based there could be a very long stretch of fighting a boss where they're not cursed and you'd be missing a ton of damage.
@@subtractem i can use cwtd lvl 21.
You really don't want to do that
@@subtractem can you explain why ?
Hey im currently in a psych ward but i will be released this coming week and i havent played much this league just a bit at the beginning.
Would this be something i can build with next to no currency so like a budget version? I really like soulrend but i am not good enough at making build to make a working soulrend build to my liking but this looks amazing so im wondering. Thanks in advance!
I think if you really stripped it down you could make a 5-10 divine version but it'd be pretty weak. Tanky still in t16s at least but low damage.
An adorned setup for hitbased coc on something like ice spear would one tap almost everything in t17 maps ontop of insta killing ubers while being tankier.
Its a good build for mid budget, but far away from strongest as far as coc builds in terms of scaling.
Three graveyard crafts and all I've gotten so far is Fractured +1 Chaos with T1 Chaos Multi + DoT Multi
That's really really good haha. All you have to do is fossil craft for +1 all then craft chaos damage.
@@subtractem just did that and got the +1 all using aetheric + corroded + shuddering. Cheers mate
How many mirrors to get this up and running?
Low investment at current market prices is about 50-100 divines, I spent about 300 to get this setup, but I self-crafting/self-corrupted my own items.
@@subtractem oof if only I played enough to make that much per season
How do you move and cast at the same time? Is this just a pc thing?
Cyclone is a channeling skill, you move while casting it. Works the same with a controller.
@@subtractem So good build to play on a controller?
How much did you spend in total to make this build?
Low budget was about 30 divines. This is probably about 300.
How important is the +3 amulet?
A +2 dot multi amulet is actually better but you have to craft or buy it
@@subtractem yes sir o7
Why does the POB display a magnification of 30? How did it come out?
15 projectiles * 2 with Nimis = 30
@@subtractem Why is this talent? Seek an answer (Allocates Overcharge) Crit?
With the anathema ring we get another curse
@@subtractem Thank you for your busy schedule to answer my questions.Thank you for your busy schedule to answer my questions.
What would you say is a minimum budget for the build?
50d-ish to get going
@@subtractem Would you play it differently with a MB? Playing a str stacker and thought its time for a change so the build peaked my interest. Got an MB and about 150D laying around.
Only flask+ring+amulet gets you over 150d. Jewels and gems will cost something too. So my guess is minimum 200d to feel good.
@@fumeknight2354 mb is not good, you need 3-4 unique flasks and life flask as well, also mb doesnt give life flask stacks regen
50d is a low budget setup with no flask or ring, 200d is the "t17s are comfy setup" but at 50 you can start doing them but just roll them carefully.
how do you instantly regen es?
with the flask setup and master surgeon
@@subtractem ah missed master surgeon, ty
Graveyard recipe link please
added to pinned comment!
Warning obtaining this build will turn your hairs grey..
hello,im lvl 98 and why do i lack like 6 skill points? i have 120 in total.
maybe side mission passives. type /passives in ur chat thingy
Wtf is enemyexplode in the pob. 😅
Cluster jewel
@subtractem thank you g!
@subtractem now I need to figure out my mana problem and how to keep it up. I'm not sure why I can only have 2 auras/or malevolence up at a time but run out of mana consistently
bet it feels awkward to play since the instant skill lmb change
The build is from this league
this dude looks like has between 22 and 57 years old
为什么要佩戴？Immutable Force ty
For stun immunity until you get awakened cast while channeling
Man, progenesis being only 60ish divs is insane.
That would be awesome. It’s 150+ divs minimum (and with luck) for us console scrubs.
I can’t even imagine what Nimis is being priced at right now.
why would you put the pob as ... in the end. what a troll
what? it's in the video description
Well, it's dead build next league.
Perchance anyone wanna buy me space kitties? :3
Meow?
wayyyyyyy too expensive normies out
Is it really that expensive? Doesn't seem bad
Not really expensive, just a later in the league build for most, still way over dot cap without Nimis. Possibly more than 3 Div ;)
@@azrael8197 Alot depends on what gameplay you chose, Im coming from a soft core trade league perspective. Pyogenesis flask is going for about 70-90 div, nimi's is another 80-100div, Awakened Greater Multiple Projectiles Support gem is about 30-35 div and the forbidden flame/flash is 65 div each so there 130 divine there. Everything else is peppered in divines for the gear. I'd say in all the build displayed here would be around 370 divine give or take for, again trade league. No doubt the build looks fun as hell though. Just beware of this prior to starting it, sub has great content though and always some unique builds so kudos.
terrible build, ppl stop doign this build. ur jacking up the soulrend almulet prices -_-". i hate yalls.. i was working on slowly upgrading my gear
Lol
t17 are wayy to easy now edit.make that waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy-------they either need to gut the rewards or crank up the difficulty again......currently they could quarter the rewards and it would still be more than worth it to run them ....and im not even playign trade league im on ssf......i have magebloodS....and 5 headhunters.....its jsut stupid...its literly worse than affliction in the overtuned reward department....you literly have to take the portal scarab just for more looting....
price?