I P*nched An Autistic Kid After He Gr*ped Me And Now Everyone Hates Me....- Best Reddit.
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- I P*nched An Autistic Kid After He Gr*ped Me And Now Everyone Hates Me....- Best Reddit.
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I P*nched An Autistic Kid After He Gr*ped Me And Now Everyone Hates Me. Am I The Jerk?
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The story revolves around a teenage girl's troubling experiences with a peer named Troy, who has autism. Despite their long acquaintance since nursery, Troy's behavior became increasingly inappropriate and distressing over the years. He developed an obsession with the narrator, often making uncomfortable comments and requests regarding her body. His behavior escalated into physical groping, which the narrator repeatedly reported to their teachers. Unfortunately, the responses were dismissive, attributing his actions to his autism and implying that she should be more understanding and accommodating.
The situation reached a breaking point when Troy groped her under her skirt. In a moment of intense distress, the narrator reacted by punching Troy, resulting in his nose being broken. This incident led to severe consequences for her, including isolation at school as punishment for allegedly bullying an autistic student, while Troy's actions were overlooked due to his disability and his family's influential status in the community.
The aftermath was challenging for the narrator, facing widespread condemnation from her community and even receiving death threats. However, she received support online where she shared her story, which helped her feel validated in her feelings and actions. Her family decided to remove her from the school and sought legal assistance to address the injustices she endured. Throughout this ordeal, the narrator emphasized that her actions were a response to continued harassment, not a reflection of prejudice against autistic individuals. Troy's actions, as she noted, were those of an individual who happened to be autistic, not behaviors condoned or excused by his condition.
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Being autistic doesnt absolve one from consequences. NTA
Absolutely, personal accountability is important regardless of the circumstances. Thank you for sharing your perspective!
That's true, but not in all cases. In this case it's clearly not a justification.
Sometimes it can
@@danielscott6049not at al at least That kind of autostic they should be shouted to Get a punch of reality if they do somethings
@@lawea1398
Do you have autism? I do, and what you call "that kind of autism" is high functioning autism, and it is a disability that definitely can (or should) absolve you from consequences in certain situations (social situations, most frequently) where you really didn't intend to cause problems.
“His autism makes him like this”
As an autistic person, I must say that *AUTISM IS NO EXCUSE FOR DEPRAVITY*
Sure, I may not understand people all that well, but I still understand that no means fucking no
I can still sort my thoughts into ones that I can reasonably act on, and those I should deny, this boy clearly can not
He is using his autism as a weapon, but that shall not fly once he is an adult in the workplace, he won’t be able to hold a job if he continues the way he is
I agree with you
As another autistic person, I agree
Like just because you're on the autism spectrum doesn't give you an excuse to be a pervert
Honestly, that line tells you a lot. All the adults in his life constantly making excuses for him and coddling him so he never faced the consequences of his actions.
Yeah, I agree. This seems more like depravity to me than autism. There's nothing about social and communication difficulty that makes you act like this. He's just a jerk who also happens to have autism.
That kid is gonna end up locked up. That isn't autistic behavior. That's predatory behavior.
In jail he gonna be probably experience all he did to that girl on himself
sigma behavior*
edit: stop replying to my comment, obsessed creeps, i'm only 8 years old
@@gachalifeofficial1least obvious bait
@@gachalifeofficial1 try and get better ragebait
@@MaskulineRandaleVBTOh they’ll do WAY worse than just the “bad touch”. That boy’s finna be someone’s girlfriend 🤣
As a autistic person, you are not a jerk. If he treats everyone else normal and good, he knows what he is doing is wrong and disgusting. You punched him for your defense, he needs help and needs to get arrested. These people and them need to stop using there autism as a excuse of their crime and troubling and need to face consequences and I agree even if autism is different on others no autistic kid or adult does this and the sexual assault is not normal for autistic person or anyone, it's called being a creep.
Whether his level or autism allowed him to be normal or not, what happened to her shouldn’t be normal. She was literally a slave for him to grope and own wtf ? Even if he was in a disabled level of autism that wouldn’t be a pass at all. He should have been in a special needs class since he was being a threat to the other kids, if so. But no, he’s not that bad, so it’s his fault than the condition, he needs at least therapy in that case.
@user-yg2uy8bc8q yes I agree but I'm trying to say he should face consequences for his action he should still get therapy but he need go to jail and other people who supported his actions towards the girl and it's not his condition fault I have autism and I don't do that, even if it's different on others no one should do it.
@@user-yg2uy8bc8q true
@@Mr.ducky87was just contradicting your first point. About the level of autism being normal. When that kind of an offense happens, it’s very likely everyone will downplay it pining everything on the condition. So the victim would be pretty helpless. That’s how it usually goes in real life.
There’s no room for argument when the defense is dumb. So best course of action in that case is to acknowledge whether or not it was intentional on his part. He’s a threat to others and something should be done on behalf, professional help or either changing schools/classes.
I imagine he likely was raised with parents going “oh he doesn’t know he did wrong, he’s autistic” so he grew up knowing he could do anything and there’d be no consequences. Whether autistic or neurotypical, if you raise a kid like that you raise a monster
As a high functioning person on the spectrum, if I groped someone I would get the shit kicked out of me, and rightfully so. No matter how severe your mental disabilities you are still responsible for your own actions. I have had people stop talking to me for so much less so I don’t see why this should be excused.
I hope it not a big deal for you as a high functioning person❤
@@Bakbey28 I deal with it pretty well, but personally experiences have made me be careful about accidentally upsetting people. But thank you, I appreciate it ❤️
Same here. And perhaps this is an unpopular opinion. But if you can teach a dog to behave, then you can also teach human beings with low functioning disabilities.
@@Fuzz82 yea i agree
you are high functioning and not all autistic people are high functioning I hope you realize
Just because he is autistic doesn't mean he can break the law! Molesting girls is not ok, he does know better, and it's not because he is autistic. Just because someone is autistic doesn't mean they don't have a conscience and know what right from wrong is, or that they are somehow mentally challenged. Yes some can be affected mentally but they still know right from wrong. You have every right to defend yourself against anyone!
You’re correct, it’s because his parents likely went with the “he can’t be held accountable cause he’s autistic” so he’s a child that grew up knowing he can do ANYTHING he wants and get away with it
If someone violates the rights others as a result of their mental condition, they should always be monitored when in contact with others! How was this guy allowed to run around like this?
@@bobbirfosho236 I also agree
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it literally doesn't matter if they know from right or wrong. People are impulsive at the moment. What matters is impulse control, and that's what autism has issues on depending on the severity of it.
“he doesn’t know better” THEN TEACH HIM BETTER???
on skibidi bro
@@purple6705no
@@purple67051:58 - 2:00
Fax
Yes teach him fact,s.
So lemme get this straight: Nobody bats an eye to an autistic kid inappropriately groping someone, despite repeatedly being told no by the victim herself, but the second the victim retaliates, everybody and their grandmother suddenly jumps down the victim's throat about it!? Come ON! Yes, autism is a very real thing that NEEDS to be addressed, which I should know as I have mild autism myself, but just because someone is autistic is most definitely NOT an excuse to allow them to pull stunts like this. I wonder how all these people who are ganging up on OP, the victim and the clearly wronged, would feel if this kid turns around and did them the same way or worse.
its a fucked up world
Schools rarely help the bullied victims. They will blame you for retaliating and rush in to save the bully.
@@abc.animal5143 yup true facts.
@@Quicknori can confirm. And those times where a small kid is bullying a big kid, and the big kid can’t fight back because he knows who the teacher will blame. Story of my life. I have autism too, so you can see where that comes into play.
I'm sorry but autism isn't an excuse for abuse! HE should have been more mature. It's not your fault. I'm sorry this happened to you 😢
It's not about maturity. His autism could have been really bad. The issue is the IDIOT peers and teachers who clearly don't know how TF autism works and think that it's not possible to hold him accountable for his actions and teach him that there's certain things you can't do. If the teachers kept teaching him and supporting his condition, making sure he knows not to do things out of line this wouldn't have happened. I can't believe that there wasn't a single teacher with common sense in this school where these issues took place.
It’s not that he should be, he is actually more mature around others, just not op. I honestly feel bad for her.
that's the thing about fucking teachers, THEY DONT GIVE A SHIT about people with autism, to us we are just bags of money to add onto the school's income@@dreamcastdazia4753
@@dreamcastdazia4753There's being autistic and then there's raping a kid and crying "autism"
@@dreamcastdazia4753the girl who wrote the story said that the autist guy act normal around his friend and other people
I am Autistic and OP did the right thing autism should not be allowed to be used as an excuse to do horrible things edit: thank you for all the likes and for agreeing with me on that autistic people who have done horrible things should not be allowed get away with their actions
Very true. Just because someone has a neurological disorder does not mean they have the right to violate someone else. We are all human beings and we should respect each other.
on skibidi
@@purple6705 real
Average NPC teacher:
-Skip your dialogue
-Ignore your need in help
-Agroo onto you when you fight back
*-generally blind until you fight back*
Real
Fr
I dont believe this story lol
on skibidi 🦀🗿
And when you make a good point, they say
“Are you talking back”
An autistic teenager got trespassed from a library for openly masturbating in it. I worked at a different library in the same city and the kid's dad wanted me to overrule that decision and argued that his son had the right to masturbate wherever he wanted because he was autistic. I politely explained that a.) I did not have the authority to overrule a different library's decision, and b.) if his son did that in the library where I worked that the police would be called. The dad did not accept my answer and insisted on speaking with my boss who said the same thing. Perhaps this is a common issue.
Fkn mindblowing! Omg! Can't follow the law for any reason? Well, intervention or consequences will follow.
I think it's called lazy parenting. Kid gets a label and the parents use it as an excuse to let the kid do whatever he wants so they don't have to parent the kid.
Why in gods green earth did he think “you know what I should do today? M**** in a public library which could possibly have children in it!!!” 💀
Why in gods green earth did he think “you know what I should do today? M**** in a public library which could possibly have children in it!!!” 💀
@@rebekah.2187my brother is kinda treated that way, however I’m not, I probably get punished more harshly even though we’re both autistic
My younger brother has autism and if he did the same things your abuser (because that's what he is) did...our parents would've dragged him straight to the police station and turned him in. Just because someone has a disability doesn't mean they have free reign to be abusive.
Totally NTA
stop making excuses for predators. neurodivergence isnt an excuse to abuse.
it kind of is, when impulse is a major issue in choice making and teachers don't give a shit to help them. She also knew he was autistic.
@@ogfemtoShame on you for trying to justify groping with autistic people!
@@ogfemto shut up, autism isnt an excuse in any world.
@@ogfemto he literally acted normally around other people, just not her. he knew what he was doing lmao 😭 as a person with autism (and possibly adhd as well) - no, neurodivergence isnt an excuse to abuse people. nobody has to let anyone sexually abuse them just because of their autism. PLUR 💜
@@4Luv_beep she said his friends, we dont know what they are like now do we
No. Just because somebody is autistic doesn’t give them a free pass to do whatever they want.
maybe they werent a real person and made up in a reddit story to farm karma and attention🤯🤯🤯
@@mafs1Prove its fake. Yall always be calling "fake" but don't ever prove your claims.
@@colbylawson5331counter argument they never prove it’s real but that just means it is what you think it is there are story’s that are clearly fake and story’s like that wich can be both
@@Rando1481 that is true. However things like this can and do happen.
@@colbylawson5331 yeah
As an autistic guy I can say that with the upmost certainty that there was NO FUCKING EXCUSE FOR HIM TO GROPE YOU. Thats sexual harassment and had nothing to do with autism;You had a right to defend yourself from that.
more like sexual assault
As a autistic person He doesn't get the title of autistic he gets the title of set up failure
Thats fax
as an autist, this is why condoms need to be well made, people like him
He gets the title for ultimate creep 💀
@@IH14Gamer well basically it's set up failure cause the teachers did nothing they weren't helping like it's like they set him up as a failure so he gets that title of set up failure
@@IH14GamerKris from MrBeast level of creep
At my sixth form college there was a lad (a little older than the rest of the class) who behaved like this with a few of the girls. He’d stare very obviously, make lewd comments, try to touch people. He was particularly ‘attached’ to a friend of mine and even tried to follow her home. Every girl knew he was someone to be very careful around and several people complained to the college but we were always just told “he’s autistic, he doesn’t understand.” They never TRIED to make him understand. Frankly, the guy wasn’t stupid. It seems incredibly insulting to autistic people to just assume there was no point speaking to him about it (and never mind that some of the girls who were absolutely terrified of him were neurodivergent too…) Nothing was done, no repercussions for him, nothing to make us feel safe.
There’s no excuse for this. I’m glad this girl punched her abuser (because that’s what he is) and I wish the adults around them had done something to protect her. This boy has been allowed to grow into a predator; the teachers should be ashamed, as they have let both of them down in different ways.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I had this experience in Sixth Form too. I am an autistic girl and to help me make friends I was put into a "club" with two autistic boys. One was a chill guy, the other quickly became too attached to me. He followed me around and walked me to places I did not need to be walked to. He waited outside my classes, and when I told him very firmly I actually am not attracted to boys, he kept asking me uncomfortable questions about it and would text me ALL THE TIME. Eventually I made friends with other people and at least three of them had had a creepy experience with this guy, including being sent an unsolicited picture. We all reported him but they did nothing and insisted it was ok because he just didn't understand boundaries. I called BS, because after all, we had met because I'm also autistic, and I have never ever acted that way towards someone.
I've thankfully never been in a deviant situation, but I can kind of relate, having been in a situation where a lower-functioning kid deliberately annoyed other special needs kids for fun, and the adults wrote it off that he didn't know any better and threatened to punish those who complained. You took the words right out of my head: They never TRIED to make him understand.
@@Bahr-im7pndeviantart
What the actual fuck. OP was being abused, that’s not okay. As an autistic person, it is not an excuse. That’s so fucked up.
I have 3 autistic brothers and they know to respect boundaries.
That a lot autism is kinda rare are they triplet ?
Congratulations
My sister has two autistic children both are under 8 not saying real age and they know how to respect boundaries and that
@@Enzo_Fnmwait, is it? There are some studies on genetics, and I with my two brothers also get one, pretty sure from dad XD
(And they also understand boundaries)
As a person with autism I know to respect boundaries
Man with autism here. Allow me to first vent at the fact that teachers are perpetuating a myth that autistic people are not intelligent enough to understastand certain things, which causes the utmost indignation within me; while it is true that we have developmental impairments, these are not absolutes and we absolutely can and do learn the skills necessary to function socially, communicatively and behaviourally. Encourage us to ask questions so that we can integrate better and it makes life easier and happier for all involved. Our emotional experience is intense, especially loneliness, depression, anxiety and attraction. Ultimately, we are still responsible for how we react to our emotions, regardless of intensity.
When faced with authority figures being unwilling to step in to put a stop to it, I think you had every right to do what it takes to stop it. Ignorance is not an excuse for any level of autism. No one, no matter how much help they need, are entitled to breach your boundaries and nor to your tolerance for breaking them. Boundaries that are broken must have consequences, and your tolerance must end where they are broken. This is not optional, and not something anyone - not the law or employer - can ask of you.
Edit: this goes towards everyone. Boundaries must have consequences. If they are reasonable and needed for you to get through life feeling safe, in control and happy, then enforce them. Make them known. Be polite about it though, especially if it was accidental. Boundaries are conditions for your consent, they are standards to be met, limitations on autonomy for the sake of a relationship - any relationship. Do not be afraid to reject people if they breach a boundary, or if their personality inclines them to: how they feel and react is on them, not you. No one is entitled to acceptance. Equally, it does not entitle you to be rude, uncompromisong or unreasonable about it. Always reserve a level of respect for someone for their boundaries so they can also abide by yours.
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Wait, so are you blind!?!?
@@JamesDheartsUndertale No.
okay but you keep forgetting that impulse issues over rule the knowledge from right and wrong. That is the thing that teachers and you keep misinterpreting. Impulse doesn't care about morality especially in the moment when intrusive thoughts kick in. It's really stupid to follow that dilemma. "if they know right from wrong then obviously they will make the right choices!" as when has any of us made the right choice 100% of the time despite knowing right from wrong. and it's not as easy as "just control yourself it's easy bro" when your brain is physically stunted at that degree.
I'm autistic too, I know yelling out swears is wrong, but when things get over whelming it's really hard to make the right choice and not to. Granted I barely grazed the ability to regulate self control. But not every autistic individual is the same.
@@ogfemto Okay, but that does not mean the onus of control on your impulses is not yours. Always is and regardless of difficulty.
As an autistic person myself, having a disability of any kind is no excuse. In college I knew a guy with cerebal palsy who was in a wheelchair. Everyone knew he was a creep and tried to touch girls or pretend to accidentally bump into them with his wheelchair to get close to them. He did this to me once and was touching my inner thigh. It was the first time that had happened to me and no one did anything even when I reported it. At the same college I was put into a small club to help me make friends because if my autism. It was with two autistic boys. One of them was a really chill guy and the other got way too close to me and followed me around and waited outside my classes. He drew pictures for me on the day I met him and constantly stared at me. I felt uncomfortable and then he started texting me non stop and would ask me weird questions about my sexuality as I had told him I was not attracted to boys. I made friends with some other girls who all had the same, if not worse experience with him. He even sent one of them a picture of his.. euuuur brotha. I just ghosted him after learning that.
I'm autistic and care for kids and adults with special needs. This is not acceptable and the adults failed you. By choosing not to act and put a stop to it, they forced your hand. He needed to learn f around and find out cause he is going to jail one day if he doesn't learn now. Just don't make a habit of punching people in the face. He knew better and got consequences as a result. Good for you standing up for yourself.
that doesn't excuse assaulting just like it doesn't excuse him to touch her
@@ogfemto self-defense is legal
@@ogfemto the griffith pfp speaks volumes
@@ogfemto *gets sexually assaulted*
*Fights back*
This mf: "she didnt have to assault him!!!1111"
as someone who has mild autism... i think he was misdiagnosed..
I’m someone with mild autism and it feels super rare to see somebody else have or at least say they have mild autism. It really has a kind of deal of being familiar and unfamiliar with some of both sides at the same time. It’s like being a Mexican dude who isn’t fluent in Spanish which I also actually am
Yea same
@@Joey7Z7Horror oh yea, Mexicans are underdiagnosed. It's even worse for the ladies and/or people with mild autism, I say this as a Mexican girl who may be autistic, but no diagnosis since the healthcare system can be hard to navigate in the United States, especially with medical gaslighting
Dude probably is a psychopath or has borderline personality disorder
Bro some of my best friends have mild autism and yea no this isn’t normal.
Being autistic is one thing abusing somone, not taking no as an answer, issuing assault threats…wtf?! That first story is about a psychopath.
I know an autistic person who's had history of both inappropriate sexual behaviour and being unable to handle rejection, absolutely NTA. Being autistic doesn't excuse you from taking accountability and responsibility. Even with autism, you can know what's right and what's wrong. Or rather what you shouldn't do, even If you don't understand it.
Did they hurt anyone?
@@Frog_on_window1 No, that's the thing. It's a close family friend that I grew up with basically. We used to be close, so that's how I know this. But then again, he never really had an urge to hurt anyone, and he just knew some things about his behaviour were questionable, even before he got diagnosed.
Then again, autism is a spectrum, so I guess it depends from a person to person. But the OP is definitely NTA for defending herself.
How would you know right from wrong if you don't understand it tho?
bro im autistic myself and i know what’s wrong and right so it just makes me mad that the person in this video got away with so much stuff cause he was autistic
@@firefly9838 Simple, some autistic people subjectively may not see what's wrong with something, or have strong impulses to do something even when told they're wrong. But they can still objectively know that something is wrong, because someone else said so. At that point you just go "Eh, fuck it, this person said not to do it, so I won't do it".
Anyone can be evil! All it takes is courage. Evil accepts all genders, races, classes, and body types! Whoever you are, you can start being evil any time you want!
ervil lebaron
Some abusers are made, some are born.
Sadly it seems that if boy is diagnosed early, parents take the "easy way out" and just enable their behaviour, so it's easier for them instead of actually trying to parent.
Usually ends up with violent, entitled and antisocial behavior, because that's what they learned
This is like saying that being a psycopath justifies murder.
_IT DOES NOT_
but it does..
@@bloxstarluke no that just puts you in an asylum
@@bloxstarluke bro are you a psycopath yourself or a serial killer in hiding or what
the problem is that adults set low social expectations for him and now he fills the expectations they set. People act how they are treated, if they are treated like a child that can get away scott free they will continue to do so. If adults had higher expectations for him, he would have been molded into someone of higher expectations. Its called the Pygmalion effect. If you treat people with disabilities with the same expectations as everyone else within reason, they will most likely turn out the same or better than everyone else. Treat them like they're special and they'll become special
he is being treated like everyone else, they expect him to act normally without help.
As an autistic person, being autistic doesn't make you do stuff like this and should never be used as an excuse for everything. While all autism is different, it doesn't mean someone can go around and do disgusting things, especially if it involves and effects someone else. NTA.
So, he's mentally challenged but was able to put all the things worse than groping that he wanted to do to OP in writing? Bet OP's lawyer is going to have fun with that in court. I hope Troy and his parents are in court when that's read aloud. I hope Troy has court ordered therapy and his parents have court ordered parenting classes.
NTA. I have an autistic family member who is also a predator. His parents excused everything too. He should be in prison.
They're all predators
@Dfayethegay9 oh, alright. My comment was referring to the violent low-functioning apes whose brains are probably too melted to understand consent, many of which I have encountered personally in school, a place they shouldn't be within 300 feet of imo
@@RandomCrapIUpload that is not fucking true.
my proof? me. im autistic.
@@RandomCrapIUpload Maybe don't rely on stereotypes?
@@RandomCrapIUpload What the hell not all autistic people are predators I’m autistic to
I'm Autistic and I know when I'm doing things I shouldn't be doing.
People often say "Two wrongs don't make a right" but when someone, autistic or not, tries to grope you then don't expect others to just stand there and take it
I am autistic. Being autistic is not an excuse for sexual harassment. I also do want to point out that I’ve noticed that and In many of the stories, it is autistic men. This is not because autistic women aren’t capable of being horrible we are. But because little girls in general are held accountable for Their behavior at a younger age. Another word we need to stop saying boy is will be boy is an excuse for bad behavior. Those boys turn into men.
This pissed me off so much, I didn't expect to get so hot with anger that I'd throw up my food that I just ate. As a highly functioning autistic 16 year old, the fact that you have high functioning autism gives you NO RIGHT to grope a woman you've known for a while. YOUR AUTISM DOES NOT EXCUSE HER DENIAL OF CONSENT. SHE SAID NO. NO MEANS NO.
Exactly,but they don’t CARE that no means no we need to teach them to care because they know “no means no” they just don’t care,amazing point tho
You’d be surprised how prepared schools are to offload autistic students on to their neurotypical friends in a ‘they’re your problem now, if something happens, it’s your fault’ way. I remember going to a theme park as a rewards trip, and I was decent friends with someone who was autistic. I don’t want to corroborate the notion that everyone with autism is like Sheldon Cooper, but he honestly fit the specs quite well. He didn’t enjoy rollercoasters at all, and although I’m not seeking out the most extreme rollercoaster, I didn’t want to just walk around the theme park. I was like ‘there’s a cafe near here, how about you go there while I go on this, you have my number so if there’s a problem, call/text me’. All good. Nope! The teachers went in that cafe, saw him there, he was all ‘she’s in that line for this rollercoaster’, so they go out and have a go at me. Not in a way that’s like ‘you left him alone and that’s dangerous’ (which is fair-ish) but like ‘you know he shouldn’t be by himself, who knows what will happen, he needs someone to keep an eye on him’. I had to leave the line, go to him, the teachers made me apologise to him (while he’s looking at me like ‘?’), and I spent the entirety of that trip with him, just walking around the theme park, not going on anything. He knew the vibe of what happened and did keep apologising, but I told him it wasn’t his fault. And these days, this guy who always apparently needs an eye kept on him because he’s just a child deep down? He got married, wow, it’s almost like autistic people can lead regular lives not unlike those of their neurotypical counterparts.
Uhm, TEACHERS, THATS YOUR JOB TO HELP THE KIDS NOT THIS KID
@@kerisaltchannel3817 honestly other than doing the head counts on the coaches they were as much use as fishnet condoms. They didn’t chaperone anyone once we were there.
@@reggiereggiesauce5755 what? Idk if it’s bc I’m autistic myself but on our middle school six flags trip we HAD to be with a teacher at all times. And we had to be in group chats with our classmates and teacher
@@kerisaltchannel3817 in our year, this guy was the only one who was neurodivergent, at least the only one to have been diagnosed at the time and for it to be a thing where if teachers didn’t make accommodations, they’d have ended up in trouble. I think if I wasn’t there, or if we weren’t friends, he’d have probably been walking around with the teachers. Problem is, you can’t bitch about students in the presence of a student (and for the teachers reading this, don’t say you don’t bitch about the students, yes you do, we all know you do), so it was better for everyone involved (except for me, but my relationship with that school was never the best anyway (don’t send your kid to a faith school if you don’t observe that faith)) to just pawn him off on me.
@@reggiereggiesauce5755 oh damn is that what it was? I’m so sorry you went through that
It’s crazy to think that people treat autistic people like some type of god or fragile glass, I’m autistic and I don’t get fed that untouchable feeling because I was raised like a normal child.
Last year in my school, there was this autistic kid in my class, and one in the 6th grade (we were 7th at the time), they used to be "friends" (they were both 11-12 M), me and my friends liked to chase them during the corridors during breaks (not bullying or anything, kinda like tag), and they'd hide in the bathroom most of the time (YOU CAN TELL WHERE THIS IS GOING), so during the one in my class' 13th birthday, I had the idea to record it, and they had once again locked themselves in the bathroom, we were just waiting outside saying "yo get out we need to use the bathroom", till a teacher opened the door, I then interviewed the one in 6th grade, and he told me they were literally fucking in the bathroom. The one in my class left the school after some time, I thought of writing a book about it, but discarded the idea bc if any staff found out I'd be done for.
@@LEG4CYGDwell that’s something 😨
Even if he somehow didn't know groping you was wrong (which I doubt considering you said he treats others with respect), if he is a danger to others, he shouldn't be allowed around others. Assault is a danger to you. And what if he didn't stop with groping? What if he took it further? They'd still probably defend his actions. He bullied you, not the other way around. Whether the person bullying you is neurotypical or neurodivergent shouldn't matter.
he was being punished for the teachers negligence
@@ogfemto He was being punished for his own actions. Fixed it for ya
To be fair to both sides, the teachers are at least partly to blame for both being negligent and for enabling such behavior
This a classic of setting up a kid to fail. Just because he is autistic does not mean he doesn’t know what is right from wrong. It is very worrying as he will go on to do this again and the older he gets the worse the offences will be
Not the asshole. As an Autistic person I do no stand for using it as an excuse for this kind of behavior. As my grandma used to say, "There are things you can do on purpose, but also things you can purposly don't do." No matter if he understand boundries or not, this is pure entitlement. Not okay. Besides, if he behaves himself well around other people he fully well understands boundries.
diagnosed?
@@0xonomy Yes
@@Fuzz82 alright no more questions needed
on skibidi bro
@@0xonomyto be fair, even if you didn’t believe this certain person, there are many people in this comment section who are saying they are autistic and it does not justify this person’s actions and judging from the amount of people saying it, a few of them are bound to actually be autistic
I'm autistic, and this is NOT acceptable. Using autism as an excuse to grope people is not okay. He knew better.
I'm Autistic... i used to be very touchy with other people. i was taught not to do that. i have respected people's boundries ever since. the fact he was never taught to stop, and wasnt told to stop blows my mind. i think she did the right thing and should have done it sooner. ignorance is no excuse, if he didnt know any better, THEY need to teach him better.
Yes
As an autistic, Its weird and unacceptable.
I'm autistic, and what that guy did wasn't right. Being autistic doesn't excuse inappropriate behavior like that.
This is disgusting, ive had experience with an autistic kid sexually harassing people. Ive only been harassed by him like twice, but he's more focused on others.
In 5th grade was when i first met him and realized how disgusting he was. Our class was like forcing us to do a goofy lil conga line activity. I was holding on to my dearest buddy ol pal's shoulders in the line when he pushed me out of the way to grab on her shoulders. She didn't notice until i told her and she was lowkey horrified. There were other times where he would hug people from behind and be like "are you my mommy?" During PE?? This is what happened to me and many others. I just shoved him away from me and ran over to my friends. around that time is when my friends went to the school staff, i think they were working with the councilor. I dont remember what they said about that but he was never punished, just told to stay away from some people at lunch. He did other things too. (And it wasn't just the girls who were uncomfortable, it was like everyone but the staff) one time he basically told this one guy to touch his private parts because "i wont tell~" like what!? He's said and done other questionable things that i dont remember but yeah
It got worse in 6th grade. Grabbing this one girls thighs (that girls friend found out and basically attacked him and pushed him to the ground. W human being honestly, but she got suspended even though he wasn't hurt), telling another he'd get her pregnant no matter what, etc. That was when the school FINALLY decided to get rid of him. And his mother had the audacity to get mad at the school and the people who defended themselves. Glad he wont come back since his mom thinks he was getting bullied
Sorry for the long ahh paragraph response 💀 this was a while ago though so most of the people involved seem to be doing fine now :3
Crazy, disgusting behavior
@@AndreiAndreevOSC ikr?? It's crazy how someone can do that with no remorse
The mom sounds like an insufferable enabler, no wonder her son is the way he is with a mother like that.
Two words, VICTIM MENTALITY
It's like people purposely bully the good autistic people and only defend them when they're bad. Kids in my school make fun of my friend because they think it's funny. He's autistic. That's why. This video kind of makes me lose hope in humanity. Also, when I say I have autism, I have the necessity to clarify which type I have. Someone asked if I have autism and I say yea and explain that it's savant syndrome which makes me smarter. Why did people in your school defend an autistic kid who touches you inappropriately? He's literally 16. I just turned 14. I know not to touch girls. When I accidentally brush my fingers on a girl's chest, I say sorry a few times and say that I accidentally touched her. What the frick?
I got autism too and I never went around touching women. I knew the difference between right and wrong. The only woman I touch is my girlfriend cause we both have each other's consent.
Consent is not hard to understand.
Honestly though, i had an autistic friend and even he knows boundaries
As someone with two brothers that have autism, YOU PUNISH THEM. DON’t BLAME IT ON THEIR AUTISM. THAT MAKES THEM BAD IN THE FUTURE. YOU PUNISH THEM. WHY NOBODY DID, THATS BEYOND BULL.
As a autistic individual, What those teachers did was HORRIBLE. Just because you have autism doesn't mean you can get some slack over what you do.
Is havin autism difficult?
(Ppl with autism have a great day u still persons : )
@@RagnarLothbrock-jo9vo It is.
You are not the jerk THAT IS ASSAULT! They need to open their eyes and realize this is unacceptable
I am on the spectrum. Autism is not an excuse to behave however you want. He is old enough to know right and wrong.
I agree (I am autistic, too.)
As an autistic girl, I would NEVER do that to someone! Autism is not an excuse.
Yeah fr I’m autistic and you don’t see me trying to grab a boys ding dong do you just because someone has autism doesn’t mean they can get away with SA
Sexual assault is not a symptom of autism
I’m so glad some people get this I see people trying to defend him like what
1:she literally said he treats everyone else with respect so he obviously knew what he was doing knowing that fact he also said that he would do worse if he could and calling her a sl*t 😭😭😭
Sexual assault I’d say is FAR worse than punching an Autistic kid, especially when said kid IS the one committing the assault.
As an autistic woman, stories like the first one make me mad. "Autistic" doesn't mean "doesn't know better". I'm sure the guy knew better, he just didn't care that he was making OP uncomfortable.
Fr
Ok ok story is cool and all but seriously why did they censor the word "punch"? NOBODY hears that and gets offended or scared 💀
You’d be surprise with how the world has been now a days
Cencered the word punch but not die 🤫
They have to because UA-cam will take it down even if it is a word like punch
as an autistic we do not claim this man
skibidi autistic
I’m autistic myself and one thing I’ve learned is that it’s never an excuse for immoral behaviour!
As an autistic woman I would’ve reacted worse than you did because I’m very touch averse and I have a fight response to people touching me due to bullying. And “no” is usually very easy for autistic people to understand so “he’s autistic” shouldn’t be used as a get out of jail free card for ignoring boundaries. NTA
We love OP’s grandma, and OP, I’m so sorry you had to endure that, I hope you never have to deal with that again, and I hope you find a person that treats you like a queen, not a object
Autism shouldn’t be a free pass.
As an autistic person, I couldn’t agree more
Just because you are autistic doesn’t mean you can do what you want
As an autistic person myself, I firmly believe these autistic kids who “don’t know any better” know adults think these things about them, and use this to their advantage, whether said adults realize it or not. They 100% know what they’re doing, and what they’re capable of, but they also know using their diagnosis as an excuse will absolve them of any wrongdoing. These kids are too protected in society nowadays and need to be held accountable for their actions, like when I was in school. My argument would be “now if these autistic children aren’t held accountable for their actions today, what is this going to teach them in the future? Are you trying to teach these children that being autistic absolves them of any responsibility for their behavior? I’m autistic myself, but if I walked out into the street and punched a random passerby, or gr*ped a teenage girl, I expect I would very quickly be arrested. I could argue ‘nooo, you can’t arrest me, I’m autistic’ all I want, but it won’t stop the police from detaining me, will it?” Now I may not be perfect, and I’m far from a role model, but I know damn well to keep my hands to myself, like Junior Kindergarten (I’m Canadian for those who are confused) taught me when I was only 4 years old…
Another homeschool ad. Seriously public schools really do everything possible to not help the bullied kid.
I keep telling my parents to homeschool me because of the abuse and neglect and overall insane asylum that my school feels like but my parents say that that's too much work on them because my mom is unemployed and my dad has a busy work schedule
Last year, School bus let me get harassed all year even though there were adults and he had a paraprofessional next to him.
@@SuperDerpio64 I feel that. My parents didn’t know how to teach me anything, so public school was the only option.
As an autistic girl, there is no excuse for sexual assault. It is an intentional and deliberate act because it goes to show that person didn't care about you boundaries.
It's nothing like just not understanding (or caring) for social cues that don't make sense. It's not like a person coming off as "rude" when they're blunt. What that person did was filled with bad intentions because they were enabled in the past.
As a fellow autistic teen whom is the same age, autism *DOES NOT* define who you are! Hearing Troy and the other spoiled autistic people getting unfairly pampered had me absolutely fuming, we should be treated the same way as a neurologic person would. You, the girl, are 100% in the right, I hope all the victims in these stories are doing good now and I wish you all good health.
When was grabbing butt and grabbing chest okay just because he has autism. The teachers are disgusting for letting him do that
It’s an AI generated story it’s not real it’s just for UA-cam. Because any school nowadays wouldn’t be on the autistic kid’s side.
The family is amazing. Aunt paying for therapy, grandma letting stay at her house and trying to afford a lawyer. Parents trying to help even though they are unable to. Lovely family :)
With the 2nd story the family is horrible! The brother is bad but the mum is the worst honestly, she is supporting his bad behaviour and acting like the OP did it. Shouldn’t let him just do whatever.
Not the jerk. Autism or not, what he did was sexual harassment, if not assault and you have a right to defend yourself. If it's anyone's fault, it's the teachers and others in authority who refused to do anything and allowed him to continue behaving this way after you complained multiple times.
If he acts normal around other people, then thats just called being a immature, lying, psychopath
I'm autistic and I got groped by a nonverbal kid in class multiple times.
NTA. That's on the kid and teachers, not you.
Just call police, he is over the age where he can be arrested and the school has refused to take action
I'm autistic, but wow... what the fuck is wrong with these kids?! It genuinely breaks my heart hearing these things 💔
NTA. Im in high school too and I’ve been scared of something like this… there’s a guy in my school who’s definitely special ed but has no concept of personal space and due to past issues with guys(specifically a guy in middle school who also used autism as an excuse for similar to what OP is talking ab but also other guys) its scary to have a guy make physical contact without me being ok with it and if im wearing shorts, ripped jeans, or a T-shirt he’ll come up and start touching my arms/legs and it makes me extremely uncomfortable and kinda scared tbh. I have a friend thats also super uncomfortable with him and she told me that at one point he grabbed her thigh. Im always scared that if i say not to touch me everyone will hate me and think im a b*tch so i just live scared and avoid him and if he comes near I hide in the bathroom(did the same thing I did with the autistic guy before him, I would skip lunch to avoid him and I actually love my breaks in the school day). The middle school guy was high functioning, im not entirely sure ab the current guy, but either way its scary to speak up ab smth like that so while I didnt have it nearly as bad, I understand somewhat what you’re going through OP and I’m glad your situation is better now
I took IPR (Interpersonal Relationships) in high school, and guys need to take charge and be real men. Ask a woman for anything kindly, and she will likely say yes because kindness conquers all.
As an autism girl THAT IS GOING TO FAR!!!
Don't accept the apology! Save the messages for the lawsuit!
I have an autistic classmate. He runs away, hits teachers, girls, and little kids, etc. He physically abuses his best friend, who can't escape because they live close together. He make suggestive comments and touches girls, making them run away crying. He will just literally scream if anyone calls him out on stealing, lying, and beating people. His adoptive mother, an angel of a woman, is my math teacher. The most he has ever gotten is a two day suspension for drawing a naked picture of my friend and trying to grope her. I am one of the few people who isn't afraid to call him out, but he hits me pretty regularly. He also goes to my church and youth group. Yes, I can defend my self, but he is six inches taller and much stronger.
He needs to be expelled.
@@LobotomizeCommies10on skibidi bro
Bro that kid is a disgusting little creep ewwwwwwww I was vomiting while reading this 💀
NTA, Autism is not a reason to get away crime. Sure can take longer learn and stuffy yeah, but “shockingly” autistic people can learn right from wrong.
How do I know? I’m autistic
As a female high functioning autistic adult…. It doesn’t matter if your autistic nobody has the right to put their hands you and I was undiagnosed most of my life and I never behaved this way and a male friend I have who is also autistic, he’s a gentlemen because he was raised right and nobody enabled him if he behaved badly.
Bro as a person with a mental disability this guy is in the wrong and should be punished accordingly.
An autsitic kid grew up with me. He constantly hit me, gouged me, screamed in my face, etc. He was always excused of his actions because of his autism and many adults essencially gaslit me into believing he could do anything because he was autistic and it even led me to dismiss other peoples issues, such as him assaulting other people both violently and sexually. The thing is, I am also autistic however because I dont act up and don't have constant meltdowns my discomforts were ignored and i was ledt to suffer for years under the assumption I would just get used to things.
TLDR: if you're problematic and autistic, the world is handed to you.
I am autistic, and I apologize for him. His autism isn’t an excuse for that.
as an autistic Person I CANT BELIEVE THAT PERSON he did a serious Crime WHAT IS EVEN WRONG WITH HIM?! Autistic People rlly need to control their behavior Being Sympathetic wont even work he needs to learn a lesson Thats a serious charge it might affect his future work and affecting his behavior he could end up in jail for SA or even worse Emotional distress and will have to pay a fine Autism cant be a excuse WHATS WRONG WITH PEOPLE THOSE DAYS Fr they need to learn how to behave properly and take action against something serious.
Being autistic does not exempt or absolve people from consequences. I really wish that people would stop infantilizing autistic people. Op is nta for defending herself. Neurodivergence isn’t an excuse for abusive behavior. There’s no excuse for abusive behavior. That kid knew what he was doing, considering that he didn’t interact with anyone else in the same way that he interacted with op. Also shame on the teachers and the administration for defending that guy, he’s old enough to know that his behavior is wrong. That autistic guy has been assaulting/harassing op for years, even though she’s turned him down multiple times.
Being autistic myself, I know that it can be difficult for us to read the room or to know when we've crossed the line. I myself have quite a few embarrassing moments of making a sexual or inappropriate joke at the wrong time and place. But groping? That is absolutely unacceptable and has nothing to do with autism. This autistic kid likely plays the victim with his family so they let him get away with everything because 'He's autistic, he doesn't know any better'. Yes, he does.
One of the big problems is that instead of kids being disciplined when they misbehave, people call it "acting out", then they load them up with pills, pets on the head, and tell them they're a special little guy, and basically keep encouraging and glorifying misbehavior, And then give it special labels.
'He's autistic he doesn't understand' I have a solution, try to teach him. And if you can't teach him keep him away from the person who he's hurting. The whole point of being a caretaker is to Make sure.
The person in need doesn't hurt themselves or someone else.Ie a child his age should not be his caretaker.
There was a kid that was like this in my highschool. He always spoke very inappropriately to one of his teachers, and did try to touch her but once he tried he got removed from her class. You could tell how hard it was on the teacher. All she wanted to do is help this kid, and instead she got harassed in front of of a bunch of kids that she should of gotten respect from. And due to a lot of the kids in that class coming from a rough part of the city, they would make fun of the teacher. Even tell her some absolutely vile things.
I’m both autistic and a survivor of childhood sexual assault so I can say without a doubt that the kid really needs discipline, regardless of his condition. Otherwise he’ll end up in prison one day. Not to mention my mum works with disabled students and has told me a few stories of incidents like this happening. Autism does not excuse ANY kind of behaviour.
I am autistic myself, you are not the jerk, there are different levels of autism, this is clearly no exception, the autistic kid was sexually assaulting the OP, they punched him out of self defense, the OP had every right to defend themselves, autism does not excuse his behavior, autism or not, this is not ok, the people defending him are either simpleminded and don’t understand the full context or they believe he can do no wrong, I am so sorry for what the OP had to go through, I hope their life gets better
it kind of does justify it, it's not an excuse. But it is stupid to hold someone with developmental issues on the same level as normal people
@@ogfemto Any competent school district would deal with this in the very first instance. This is not a normal situation but to allow the door to be open for this to happen repeatedly is not okay for any reason.
You don't touch people. He knew what he was doing and demonstrated this objectively.
@@frgmented-dreams6140 "he knew what he was doing" is an obsolete understanding of things
@@ogfemto in demonstrating a lack of that and impulse control, there should be consequences. The school provided none.
@@frgmented-dreams6140 and there are schools that provide punishments and no support, we can agree public schools are shit and not suitable for people with developmental issues
As someone with Autism. Autism is not an excuse to inappropriately touch a girl and the only way someone with Autism doesn't know any better is if he isn’t taught or told to not do that by adults or parents.
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As someone with autism and ADHD myself, with an autistic brother as well, you are 100% NTA. Having a mental disability does not give you the excuse to be degenerate without consequences. Also, I know this doesn't go for everyone with autism, but I have met a surprising number of horrible people with autism. Some are openly rude (and yes, I know we struggle with communication, but these people were VERY rude and didn't apologise and made excuses about being autistic when challenged on their behaviour), and one man that I worked with who had autism was very pushy with me, trying to be overly-friendly with romantic intentions in mind, even when I made it clear I wasn't comfortable with what he was doing. He was one of the main reasons I left the job. So, yeah... I feel that a lot of people use their autism as an excuse to behave however they want.
What the sigma
The intersection of neurodivergence and abuse is a pretty heavy subject obviously, in the majority of cases- it's usually the person with autism being abused by a neurotypical person. Often a care giver or other authority figure, but sometimes peer groups; I can personally attest to the latter I'm sorry to say.
It's interesting (so to speak, maybe not the best word) to see the dyamic reversed and ableist attitudes permitting abuse by an autistic individual rather than abuse of an autistic individual. I'm not sure a text-to-speech content mill that offers no commentary, investigation or exploration of the subject is really the right venue for this discussion though.
It goes without saying that the parents and authorities in these stories really did a lot of harm through their ignorance and indifference, so in either case- whether it's abuse by or of a neurodivergent individual; the problem is ableist attitudes and a culture that permits abuse, such as the pernicious *sigh* "grape" culture in the first story or the culture of machismo and violent correction in the second. It's especially sad to see the way in which parents and authorities in both cases internalised this obnoxious notion of autism being "male coded" and went as far as to attribute symptoms of toxic masculinity to autism. Really a stew of various bad, ignorant attitudes and beliefs that is.
Honestly, both the autistic kid AND the teachers are being disgusting. "His autism makes him like that." "His autism doesn't let him know any better." They think of him as some kind of naive newborn, like someone who's not even human. They let him get away with some of the most disgusting behavior I've ever seen just because of one little mental condition. Those people might think they're being nice, but in reality, they're being lazy and they're dehumanizing another kid at the exact same time.
I’m autistic & even I agree that you did the right thing.
You had already used your words to tell that kid you didn’t like to be touched that way, but he didn’t listen, so you had to be harsher.
Remember:
Having a disorder(if it doesn't stop you from thinking straight or carrying out basic tasks) doesn't justify being a terrible person
As an autistic person, I will not accept people who use their autism to get away with horrible acts like this
I’m not autistic, but I do have a sibling with autism. The staff could’ve at least made the effort to explain to him why it’s not okay to gr*pe someone. Autistic people are not dumb enough to not understand what is right or wrong.
And judging from what op said about how he treats his friends and other people, he most certainly understood what he was doing is wrong, but just uses his autism as an excuse to do it.
I hope op of the first story is doing well and was able to heal from her trauma
I feel sorry for the girl who got hate for defending herself, there should be no reason for touching anybody like that without consent!
having a disorder or syndrome doesnt excuse you from doing things like that.