Start to Finish XYZ Probe (Part 3)
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Let's finish the setup on our XYZ Probe plate and get to the code and configuration of our software. There is a bug with the NVUM controller in nearly all Mach3 XYZ probing macros. So I had to figure out a little workaround to make things work smoothly.
Links mentioned:
Link to the New UltimateBee by Bulkman3d: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DeH...
DarkScreen Screenset for Mach3 (IDIM Modified) : drive.google.com/file/d/1mKG2...
a special thanks to graphicer82 the creator of this excellent screenset.
Manual XYZ Macro for NVUM controller: drive.google.com/file/d/1VCEt...
CNC3D's SharpCNC Commander: libraries.sharpsoft.com.au/sh...
Openbuilds controller: software.openbuilds.com/
GRBL scripts make sure to read through and modify your measurement.
1/4in: drive.google.com/file/d/1Liwe...
1/8in: drive.google.com/file/d/1bXg2...
New upgraded kit with Linear Rails (disclaimer affiliate link): s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AmOfAa
Link to the exact kit I ordered (disclaimer affiliate link): s.click.aliexpress.com/e/sGS1tOak
Thanks to Ooznest and the Openbuilds for their design.
The embarrassing part: If I have helped you out and you would like to support my channel any paypal donations to josh.haywood@qcocentral.com or quick donate link bit.ly/3cnI37L will be very much appreciated but not expected!.
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this works great both in screen and in the 3 way touch plate ive used mach3 as a controller thanks
Great work. Very helpful.
It helped a lot. Thanks for saving me a lot of time.
Great video mate.
Thanks my man!
hi great video !! can we do the edge finding so that xy plane rotates and adjust its travel pattern to match workpiece gemoetry ? like center finding
Hi. great step by step videos but im a bit confused with electronics, if i were to make this probe plate could i wire it up to a PRT-E1500W control box for a 6040 cncest machine, if so any information about how to would be greatly appreciated.
Great video and screenset! One question....there is not script for the center finding on a circle? Mine is empty! I have the EC300 and i have tested every macro and gcode that is on the internet but nothing works with this board! The XYZ you make works perfectly and i thank you for that!
Great video, Will this work for inch units if so what needs to be changed?
It should work for inches yes you will just need to change the distances in the top of the script to something similar in inches.
Hi just one problem when I select/use a different tool it goes down too far so that the flutes are touching on the wrong part of the tool would I have to alter the script or is there a setting in mach3 to use .the tool is shorter than 12mm on the cutting edge/flutes
Hi. Many thanks. The best one I have come across so far. I am about to run with that Novusun NVEM v2 flavour, so this is very interesting however. I work in mm. Would I need to change the script in any way?
Thanks, everything is do in this channel is metric so you will have no problems.
@@IllDoItMyself Ah cool. I thought to ask just in case as when you were going through the script you mentioned 'inches'. So all good then!! :-)
Hey
nice layout for the darkscreen thanks i installed it. The software for the probe was installed, this works well, but how can you also only measure the z axis?
Thanks I only added to the original work. Use auto tool zero for just z
For my uc300 controller and mach3 I have to double the z height of touch probe plate to get it to actually go to z0, simple solution but idk why
Anyone have an inch copy of the script ?
thank you for video but where i put the micro file in mach 3 i'm new in cnc world
Hopefully someone can help. The screen and interface is excellent, well done! My challenge is when probing I receive the following error " no input set for probing! ". My machine is connected to a pokey57 controller. When I turnoff the controller and press probe it proceeds, but of course nothing physically moves
I like this screen set , but how do you get to settings (alt 6) for axis calibration?
Yeah that is removed from this screenset. You can do it manually by doing a movement of 100 then dividing that by the measured movement and finally times by the current steps. The. Set the result in your motor page. That is all the script actually does anyway. Or just simply load up the old screen set do the calibration and load this one back up. It's all saved in the setting page.
I have the exact same setup as yours and I was wondering about the script. I am using your Screenset and wondered if I also have to load in the script for the auto probe or is that baked into the program? If I DO have to use your script also, how do you upload script? Sorry, I am new to Mach3. TY for all of your videos!!
No worries the screen set has it all built in.
@@IllDoItMyself What dust collection setup do you use on your machine? Links please :)
This is one I made, I'm selling them ready to go for $50 usd. I will be working on a proper post for these soon but let me know if your interested.
Is there some xyz probe that is more plug and play than this?
How did you operate the machine without the probe before you had it, before you machined it?
Hey. There are plenty of ready to go options yes. CNC3D, Openbuilds, ooznest all have one. The probe is not required you can set work coordinates manual just fine.
I´ve seen that you use NVEM controller, are you having any problems with that BoB? I´ve read several forums about novusun BoB´s and there are bad reviews about them. did you have any problem with that Bob? where did you bought it from? thanks, great video!
Hey so this is the NVUM which has now been replaced by the NVEM. That being said I have had no problems other than having to write a custom probing script which I have in one of my other videos.
@@IllDoItMyself great! Where did you get it from? There are tons of sellers and it seems to be a copy of another copy, i cant find any trusted seller or the manufacturer. Thanks.
Hey this is from bulkman3d use the link in the description to find their store and you can order it from there.
On a spiral fout endmill like that should be able to set it in any direction the tool is in as Ling as it drops down enough. The diameter needs to be measured though or it can be off a little but on a small machine it won't be enough to notice.
Yeah good point if you go low enough.
@@IllDoItMyself I'm actually going to make one myself I need to start a Channel on here I'm putting a szgh industrial controller on my 3040 cnc I don't know on your setup but when I programmed my plate I used a cutter comp on my sidewalls so I can comp for sidewall ware on my tool so I can rerun it to get my x and y the same size
I would suggest using a steel dowel instead of a bit. The bit would need to be placed exactly on the tips of the cutting edge where as the dowel is dimensionally accurate on all sides
How do you connect the xyz probe to the xpro v5 controller
Hi, Can I somehow modify the script to define 0 in 5 axis CNC? Perhaps there are some tutorials about this?
Sorry I don't have access to a 5 axis machine so I can't help you.
Hi, this script worked when I was using the NVUM and it worked, but since switching to AXBB-E, it doesn't work correctly. It either randomly stops probing, or doesn't stop when touching the plate. Any ideas on what I need to change?
I have the same issue with the EC300
on the dark screen - where is the 'regen tool path' button ????? cant for the life of me find it
After loading the Dark screenset and completed the settings, why is all the actions downward into the material, that is while doing the AUTO TOOL ZERO and the AUTO XYZ
Do your machine coordinates go - when your move z down? And what do your work cooridnates do when you move z down?
Good morning. After retrofitting my WorkBee with the Novusun V2 and Stepperonline closed loop motors it is now running on steroids!! So I have had to tune back the motors to get rid of the whiplash!! The Mach3 simulation tells me it will shave an hour on the jobs I run. So happy days.
But the question I have is regarding that 'Manual XYZ Macro for NVUM controller'. The 'Digitize' LED is working, I have my test piece loose on the table and the router finger tight on its clamps. So holding the test piece down by hand during the test. The test script worked first time like a dream, but then I repositioned the test piece by 15 mm or so and manually moved the machine roughly above the touch plate, the same as before, and tried again. Just as well my Z was loose in its clamp as the Z kept going down and had to hit the E stop. Now it fails more often than works. I have the Ethernet Novusun V2.
I have the same isue does anyone have a solution. the cutter stops on the probe pauses for a few seconds then sometimes goes down instead of up crashing the machine!
Yes I have found a bug. Standby for a fix
@@IllDoItMyself I think I have found a fix, hope you don't mind . If you open Mach3 click on operator and select edit the button script. Then select auto tool zero. scroll down and change (Code "G0 Z" & (GetDro(2) + Abs(10)) & " F400" 'Move off the plate 10mm
) to ( Code "G01 Z25 F500" 'Move off 0 25mm). This has to be done on both auto tool zero buttons one on the program page and the other on offsets page. I have not had any problems since doing this. And for some strange reason the Auto xyz button works every time after doing this. will be interesting to see if this works for anyone else.
Yes but you can use the variable in there to handle the different heights people can use.
@@443057alex I will give it a crack. At the moment my work-around is to power cycle the Novusun, driver and motors. The existing script works first time by doing this, but I also have to take the machine to 'zero' before I switch it off as I also lose the zero position when I do that. But I think that could be something else. Thankfully the over current protection in the drivers are set correctly to protect the motors and driver.
As always great work and excellent video!, I have been using a screenset and XYZ probe on my Mechmate router, the screenset and settings has been put together by PEU and Ernie bro for Mach3 ( ohh this date back about 11 years) I wonder if this probe settings will work with Novusun controller, may I ask if any of the clever people here can look at the settings code to see if it is compatible!
Thankyou! I would imagine it won't just work. This really is a non standard way of probing and just a work around for the NVUM.
I have tried to use this script for the probe tool and it probed fine and then instead of raising, it went further into the probe plate and broke my bit, gouged plate and messed up the material :( I have gone through your complete series of this machine setup and have followed everything to a T. Only difference is my machine is the 1500x1500 and my home is the RR. I have also been pulling my hair out trying to get my Fusion 360 PP setup to work properly with Mach3. Every time I load the file in Mach3, the work piece is opposite of my table and my movements also show opposite when viewing table display. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated PLEASE! TIA
Oh no. Start by making sure mach3 moves the machine the direction the arrows point. Then work from there. It is possible to have this backwards and still working but things will be reversed. If that's the case this script will fall for sure. Remember when working with anything new keep one hand on the e-stop.
@@IllDoItMyself Thanks. Got it figured out (I think). I THINK I may have used the "Auto Tool Zero" instead of the "Auto X/Y/Z". Now onto tramming.. Any tips tricks or video showing how you did it for this machine? Thanks again for the help and vids!
Hi. Sorry to be a pain. Is this the script for just the probe? I.E. without the different screenset. "Manual XYZ Macro for NVUM controller". Where does it go?
I think I found the answer to my own question. Open it with Notepad and paste it behind the 'Auto Tool Zero' button. Enter X and Y plate dimensions manually in the script. Not sure yet whether it picks up existing means to enter Z thickness of plate and tool diameter.
Hey sure, you can use it in your macros folder or you can edit a button and paste the script in to it.
@@IllDoItMyself BTW. Before I got into IT (I wish I played with VB though!!!) I used to be an Electrical Engineer. I reeeeally like your workmanship and attention to detail. Thank you for your help so far.
Thankyou I really appreciate that!!
Can you tell us why you use relay? What for?
Hey Mateusz, I use one of them to run my air pump for a bit of chip evacuation when aluminium cutting.
@@IllDoItMyself
I downloaded the Dark screen set but when I open it on my computer it stretches over the entire screen and there doesn't appear to be any way to access the control buttons that normally appear across the top of my screen. Can you suggest anything to correct this?
I am only seeing a portion of the Mach 3 screen.