The struggles for independence and the impact of redrawing borders
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- From Catalonia to Kurdistan and Quebec, many people are demanding independence. What does it take to transform a cultural identity into a nation-state? And what is the impact?
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The number of countries in the United Nations has grown over the decades - from 51 states in 1945 to 193 today. Many more places want to become independent.
But national governments almost always oppose secession.
Catalonia’s parliament declared independence from Spain in October 2017 following a referendum deemed illegal by the central authorities in Madrid.
Spain dismissed the region’s government, and decreed that a fresh election should be held. Catalan politicians leading the independence movement could be jailed for decades if found guilty of rebellion and sedition.
The autonomous Kurdish region in Iraq also held a recent independence referendum. It outraged the government in Baghdad and neighbouring countries, which also have Kurdish minorities.
The Baghdad government claimed the independence referendum was illegal and seized back the lands Kurds had taken beyond their region.
The desire for secession is nothing new.
There are estimated to be more than than 8000 ethno-cultural groups in the world. With many independence movements demanding that their homelands be recognised as countries.
Jean-Claude Juncker, the president of the European Commission, said that if every region had its way, the EU would become unmanageable.
So who gets to form a state?
There are no clear international rules. The 1933 Montevideo Convention declared that a region needs 4 things to become a state:
- a permanent population
- a defined territory
- a government
- and the capacity to enter into relations with other states.
But these are only guidelines. Ideally a region would also meet other conditions, such as:
- show that a clear majority have freely chosen independence
- respect its own minorities
- have a viable state
- and settle terms with the state it leaves and its neighbours
In practice, all these conditions are hard to meet.
Taiwan is a modern, democratic state in all but international law.
It’s an island off the south-eastern coast of China which has its own constitution, functions as an independent state, has democratically elected leaders, and was the first place in Asia to rule in favour of gay marriage.
Per head it’s around three times richer than mainland China. But China regards Taiwan as a renegade province. It insists that no country can have diplomatic ties with both itself and Taiwan. Only 19 countries, plus the Vatican, officially recognise it.
Somaliland is another region seeking to be recognised as a country. The semi-desert territory on the coast of the Gulf of Aden declared independence from Somalia in 1991. It has its own government, police force and currency. But no foreign government recognises it. Perhaps for good reason.
To recognise Somaliland would encourage other separatists in the region. It would undermine the already-weak federal government of Somalia. And it would probably lead to war.
There have only been two major changes to African borders since the 1960s and neither is a success story.
Eritrea declared independence from Ethiopia in 1993. Today the country has a despotic government and its people are mired in abject poverty.
In 2011 South Sudan seceded from Sudan, making it the world’s newest country. Soon after South Sudan formed civil war broke out displacing 2.2 million people. Although a ceasefire was signed in 2015, the country lies in ruins - plagued by hyper-inflation, famine and violence.
Independence has a romantic ring. Many sympathise with the demand for freedom. But redrawing borders is dangerous, and often causes as many problems as it solves.
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"If every region had its way, the EU would be unmanageable"
Jean-Claude Juncker ...
This guy come from Luxemburg...
Clément Parigi 😂😂the irony
The U.S loves the EU , its easy to bribe few people instead of 50+ countries.
He's right however, the idea of "national identity" is not necessarily something that brings people together, at least not in the way it's presented to the world currently, more often than not it's the root of racism, war & economic problems. Culture is a valuable thing, but the use of it to further political ambitions and projects of independence for the sole reason of independence is not necessarily good. Sometimes it's quite a lot better just to live together and find strength in diversity.
But alas, the ridiculous 19th century view of the national state still reigns supreme, rather than us progressing to a state of thought on government that could actually unite the world on issues rather than divide it #HailCulturalPositivism
Don't think i have ever seen any strength in diversity most cities with very high diversity usually have the highest crime rate.
Guy Fawkes Except that's nonsense. It's not people want to secede because they're romanticist jingoists, they're trying to secede for agency and unify around (often as it's reason for their lack of agency) their cultural identity. It's the countries they want to secede from that are based on the romanticist idea of the nation state.
There's no finding strength in diversity when the nation state demands cultural unity at the expense of the regional areas - they will conform to the culture, language/dialect and values of the nation state's capital or it will make them. You've no doubt seen the Franco-esque police brutality in Catalonia.The UK pushes RP on the youth, getting more aggressive with each generation, and focusing economic development exclusively on the capital and away from anywhere that steps too far out of line. France actively encourages people to make pariahs of anyone who dare to even know how to speak a language such as Occitan or Breton. There is no strength in diversity because even slight diversity is actively being quashed by the system you say is reason the regions want independence.
I suppose it is, but not in the way you mean.
Yo. How old is this video? We’ve been an independent and sovereign country since 1981! What the hell is going on here? - Confused af Belizean
I'm also confused
Ikr.
The concept of the map is weird. It includes non-UN recognized states, but also states that are recognized, but in dispute over their sovereignty with other country. Also, "independence" has nothing a little to do with sovereignty, which I think is the only factual mistake here.
I know right, but the video was in 2017 and includes South Sudan and Kosovo
You only think you're independent. All those maps with Belize on it were part of a Truman Show-esque conspiracy to convince you that you're living in a independent nation when you're really living in the 51st U.S. State of Belize.
What about Namibia? Who seceded from South Africa in 1990, and is now one of the most politically stable counties in Africa.
You're right, really does make you think
that breakup was peaceful
Namibia is the second empty country in the world after Mongolia . Hard to not peaceful when you are empty
@Ahmed S.
Nope . Libya is more crowded than Namibia
Shush you are trying to break their political agenda. They are trying to tell the world "Independence is bad" without even trying to understand why those nations want to secede...
"There have been only two major changes to African borders since the 1960's" That's so incredibly wrong...
The lack of research in this video is abhorrent.
This is the Economist.... what did you expect?
Belarus-chan , seriously this is way wrong. 3 countries left NATO just this year and others are joining the S.C.O
They also listed Belize as somewhere with an active independence movement, which is kind of funny since they have been independent since the 80s
They also listed Bavaria as trying to become independent
Mr.Ruffy isnt Bavaria trying to become indenpendent? I read multiple time it is.
Belize is already independent
But Guatemala claims a part of it, honestly theres no reason for Belize to be included, Guatemala recognizes Belize as fully independent but we hold a Land Claim. Other than that there is no reason to include Belize.
I know I was like wtf belize? I thought she was going to talk about belize stepping out of the Commonwealth or something like that
Belize is a British anomaly. This country should merge with Yucatan and Guatemala to create a Maya country.
Maxime Schmitt uhm no
Hum yes
I declare my house a country too plz add to your video map
That's possible. Than it's a micronation
Phlegethon I announce that I am seceding my plot of land from the USA and calling this land “wakanda”
@Robert Kööp I understand the joke. I just said the joke is possible
oops, You got bringing a passport everyday come out your room
I was thinking same.
The Free-Bavaria-Party had just 1.7 % last Bavarian election. I don´t think that Bavaria wants to be seperated form Germany.
This video is ridiculous. It shows Bavaria but not Transylvania or voyvodina
@@pleasenohate7505 Stfu magyar neither of those places want to be Hungarian
@@sokrates6737 I know people from nagyvárad and kronstadt (szekelyföld) and they are Hungarian and not Romanian. You don't know people from there. And I also know people from Bavaria. Transylvanjans have a much higher independence seeking then Bavarians
kiana nicolette Transylvania is romanian land and only a small part in the center is hungarian. They would be an enclave surrounded by a country they have bad relations with thats impossible
@@sokrates6737 no nogyvàrad even borders Hungary
At 1:15 why was Belize shown as a region wanting independence, it’s been a nation since 1985 or something
Palestine too.
TheGamingAlong Palestine doesn't exist...it's Israel....so plze....
Ikr?
JayC Cantun Palestine is not Israel. It is a country under illegal Israeli and US-backed occupation.
Bolvane stupid bitch...Palestine doesn't exist anymore here me....it's extinct..Isreal is the real country. Understand that!!!!
I am frankly astonished by the lack of research particularly with regards to the inclusion of Puntland. I am not aware of any incident of the government of Puntland, or indeed its people seeking independence. I should know, I am from Puntland, and we consider ourselves a regional state within the Federal framework of Somalia.
This would have been very clear with any amount of research into the political dynamics of the region. The fact that you equate my region of Puntland with Somaliland, who have formally declared independence from Somalia speaks of your lack of preparation.
There is no confusion about the fact that Puntland is a regional state in Somalia, and that it it does seek independence but rather some level of autonomy within a federal framework. Please correct your video and do not make a mockery of your publication. A basic google search will confirm this. I expect a speedy correction, and I will be writing to the editor as a long time print subscriber of your publication.
I am from Taiwan. My personal identity is I am a Taiwanese, and Taiwan is an independent country. I am not Chinese nor from a province of China.
Statistics show most young generation Taiwanese holds the same personal identity just as mine. For historical reasons, the constitution of Taiwan was written around 1949 in mainland China by Chinese, and the constitution we have does not accurately express our personal identities. China has been thwarting Taiwan from independence claims and that's why we are still using this biased, dated, and inappropriate constitution.
The fact is that, we are definitely a self-ruled country. We have our own currency. We vote for our president. We can use Google, UA-cam, and Facebook freely. We were born and raised in the environment with freedom of speech, free market, protection of human rights, and democracy. These differentiate our experiences and identities from mainland Chinese. We are just different. Admit it.
adam Why puntland wants autonomy, does it have a different ethnic group than somalia?
Pedro, no it does not, all Somalis are more or less the same ethnic group, its the most homogenous country in Africa. The reason why we want autonomy is so that we can get on with out lives amidst the total breakdown of government in the South. You see the rest of Somalia is embroiled deep conflict against Alqaida affiliates Alshabaab, various clans, and then you have outside influence from countries that have a stake in Somalia never getting peaceful like Ethiopia, Kenya (both of them have Somali regions with irredentist movements), you also have AMISOM countries with salaried soldiers in Somalia wanting to continue (and perhaps increase) their presence. So my region Puntland wants a little bit of autonomy within Somalia so we are not beholden to the chaos in the south. Somaliland is the only part of what was formerly known as the Somali Republic to declare independence. Puntland never did and never will as we are part of Somalia. The reason Somaliland declared independence is because they were a separate colony, and when they got their independence they willingly decided to form a union with Somalia. So their situation is different, they were actually an independent and recognised country (albeit for only 5 days) before they decided to form a union with us in Somalia. I completely understand why they have declared independence and wish them all the best.
adam how is the situaion in somalia right now?
To be honest its not great. The president is very weak, he can not visit parts of the capital city, let alone govern the country. The countryside is ruled by AlShabab, and they occasionally battle it out with AMISOM forces (22k soldiers from the rest of Africa whose task it is to establish peace). Its a massive mess. A few weeks ago there was a suicide bomb in Mogadishu, the blast killed close to 500 civilians, the largest of its kind. Even in my region of Puntland, we now have ISIS affiliates and AlShabab operating. The country is definitely not stable. We hoped the election of Farmajo would bring peace but he has proven to be an ineffective leader.
Hey man, you forgot Texas and California
Ikr
@Benosoar how so?
😂
texas republic
Alaska wants independents more than any other state
I want my own country ..
cuntry
ZC Same
Micronation
ZC let's form our nation... You get the guns I'll get the flags and banners ;)
unknown sure thing... You can found our capital too :)
Where is my Québec Community?/ ou sont nos frères québécois?🇲🇶🇲🇶🇲🇶
@кино киноIl y a des Québecois qui sont noirs. Le premier Québecois à intégrer l'Académie française, Denis Laferrière, est noir.
Why is bhalochistan not highlighted??
Abdullah Khan “So is Jammu and Kashmir!!”
Balochistan is a region it’s not a state which means it can’t get independence
Why not Khalistan and Tamils??one of the worlds largest stateless ethenicities
Sadia Hassan26 I don’t know Khalistan but I am tamil and v don’t want any independence v already got 1 union
Who Ear 🤣 how foolish of U
Tibet is also a free country illegally occupied by china
suman karm you dont know china history, just shut up... Just shiting on your street
brainwashed by western medias
Dali Lama?? Who is he huh
If occupied by Indian .its legalized ?
nop
Wait but if Flanders wants independence, Wallonia would too, rip Brussels
Wallonia and Brussels are going to join France 🇫🇷
@@Hugo-cn9no No Brussels is Brabant and was originaly inhabited by the Duth speaking community. History is ofcourse not evrything, because today the majority speaks French. I believe if it ever would come so far it wil neither go completly to France or Flanders. It will be a complicated sollution where evry citizen could choose their national identity. This will not be the most efficient sollution, but neither communities would give up Brussels.
1:12 Why is Belize in that list? Isn't Belize a fully recognised country and member of the UN?
RIGHT?! wtf i dont get it
No, Belize is a country!?
@@deblocko1122Nope...Belize is a sovereign nation. Despite that their head-of-state is Queen Elizabeth of UK, they gained independence from UK already.
Belize is independant and member of ONU
OneBritishIrishBoi 1 no it’s an independent nation that is recognized by other nations
Wait Belize ?
Phil Mochel I dont know neither...
Guatemala claims the territory of Belize, but Guatemala recognizes it as an independent country.
Mauricio Cordón That doesnt makes sense
Phil Mochel would have made more sense to put the autonomous Caribbean regions of Nicaragua
Andrey Chaves Leon Basically Guatemala claims a part of Belize according to a treaty when Guatemala gained independence, it's kind of weird where we as a Country recognize Belize as independent but either claim half or the whole country. Theres going to be a referendum to decide if we should ask the International Court of Justice to resolve the conflict, honestly I dont see any point in claiming Belize out of a Treaty signed over a century ago, it looks more like a distraction from other problems with the state, if the motion does pass I also dont see the ICJ ruling in favor of Guatemala.
The reasons this video suggests about the denials of Somaliland's recognition is both invalid and irrelevant. Somaliland freely and rightly left an union with Somalia that failed and has been an independent nation before Somalia became a government. It physically controls its entire territory and its democratically elected government has its own currency, military, constitution and held several elections that the world observers declared fair and free of any irregularities. There is no separatist groups in the region that even voiced their ambitions and control a permanent territory comparatively like Somaliland. Somaliland is indeed Independent nation with free society that , for thirty years managed its affairs. This is rare in any nation in the entire Horn of Africa's recognized countries.
No they are still technically separatists since the Civil War is not over, and there is many fighting on the border
Free Kashmir ❤️ 🇬🇧
Free Kashmir from Illegal indian occupation❤
They only listed a few of the supposed "Separatist" movements.. What about Südtirol? Brittany? Balochistan? Hejaz? There are many...
It's a 4 minutes overview. Brittany? LOL!
In no way did I say that Separatist movements were strong in those regions, but rather they existed (Südtirol has a rather large one though, and Hejaz is pretty much powerless under the Najdi-ruled absolute monarchy of Saudi Arabia).
Brad Bobley I really don't know about the whole Balochistani nationalist movement. I know Balochistan is divided between Iran and Pakistan today, and the only place I really hear about it is Pakistan. The region is distinct, but then again, you can say the same thing about almost all regions in Greater India.
Hail Giratina The true god I never said this video is 100% B.S., but rather, separatism is a rather complex topic which completely varies by region, that cannot be covered by a video less than five minutes long.
No one cares about the petty Balochistan seperatists and pretty sure britttany doesn't want independence
Somali is one race, one religion and one government. Somaliland is merely a successful part of the economy trying to cut ties with the war torn part of Somalia
Solomon the hardvorking slave Somalia has the lowest rate of aids/hiv in africa. And cannibalism? Fucking racist
South America & Oceania be like :
WE... ARE.....
*PERFECT*
not really
@@Vince_ExE They're very close to that, though. Separatist movements don't hold nearly as much of a sway there as in the entire rest of the world.
@@mekingtiger9095 well in pacific ocean
Full support to Quebec ❤🎉
Full support to
1) Kurdistan
2) Baluchistan
3) Tibbet
4) Taiwan
5) Hong Kong
6) Timor
7) Western Sahara
8) Sindhudesh
@@rozariosdScotland TN punjab manipur chattisgarh Scotland Catalonia nagaland
@@rozariosdkashmir
Unlike the failed state of Somalia whose only positive achievement is the fact that they are recognised internationally. Somaliland has worked tirelessly to secure its borders, fight piracy, create a thriving democracy of one man one vote (with free and fair elections using a world-first iris technology coming up next week!) and so much more to the absolute indifference of the rest of the world. The borders of Somaliland are not in dispute as they are colonial borders just like any other country in Africa. We have conducted a referendum in 2001 and the vote returned a resound 97% in favour of independence (the referendum was observed by international 3rd party observers).
I hope you make more videos about my country Somaliland, and look into its unique situation in the context of East Africa. We have achieved so much without international recognition, it is the only democracy in the region, we want to join the rest of the world and build relations with other nations.
Lop wow so much for being a democracy when you imprison journalist the only thing that somaliland has is safety it's an absolute shit hole I should know I've been there Hargeisa is a slum and people are qabilists infact how is it a democracy of only issaq are elected
golden foxa how sad that you people have to go through our airports when ever you want to go to your underdeveloped "villages" with 5 huts but you hate Hargeisa, it's kinda satisfying knowing how miserable bunch you are 😀 also we're unapologetically Qabiliste, we don't want your kind coming to our country 😏
You probably did not read the Freedom of the Press report of 2017. Somaliland is the only country in all of East Africa to not receive the infamous Not-Free tag. In fact we have a higher score than many recognised African nations, whereas your country Somalia comes in the bottom 10 of that list. freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/freedom-press-2017
Absolutely right. They should thank us for giving them access to their villages but their cuqdad is just too much. I bet you this guy does not dare say what he posted above when he is paying Somaliland taxes at the Egal International Airport. So petty.
And it took you tirelessly stepping on other clans who don’t follow your separatist ideology to achieve that dream.
World: how about every region gets independence?
Ireland: how about every family gets independence?
They already do it called divorce
Many of these conflicts and border frictions are because the old colonial empires drew lines without thinking a second about demographics: religion, ethnicity, race etc. etc.
No, they're knew exactly what they were doing...
Somaliland will be recognized, no longtime will take it.
Lol
Pls explain?? Why! I’m from Somaliland yet I want to unite with my brothers dorm the south! Walahi it’s our enemies that’s what is to be disunited! The only way Somalia will be successful is for us to unite. Don’t forget what the star stands for the five regions of greater Somalia! And inshallah we’ll unite.
@@mahad5246 I am a say wallahi brother I heard somaliland is a one isaaq run region is that true
@@ttvh4ss4n Somaliland has issaq and darood ..... the majority of dulbhante are against the succession as well as some issaqs! We must unite under our religion and bring peace between clans and restore our country to a great status
No, it won't. Almost everywhere it's recognized as apart of Somalia
r u joking? ...power.... only thing that matters to form a country
Thats the worst way , even if its viable but not effective in long term
Andreas Marian Suares All those regions you listed have EXTREMELY small bases that actually support independence, also where’s the facts that the U.S is the worst country on earth, you clearly haven’t seen Mexico,Venezuela, Bolivia,haiti, Guatemala,Cuba, Africa in general, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, ukraine, India, North Korea, Pakistan ect I can go on and on... last time I checked these shit holes aren’t what I call paradise.
Free Kurdistan ❤️☀️💚
NAH VERIRIZ
@@PumpkinEater-dg4qx 🖕🖕🖕
Türkey is concept of Separatism from Greece civilization, but it’s wrong by genetic science. They barely seemed türk tribe. And Russian never consider themselves as they ever invaded by mongol.
Facts
what about a free Turkmeneli? and a free Assyria? they are in Kurdistan's territory
I am from somaliland
I want my own country
To do what? What makes you think you'll have a better life to be independent? Instead of working towards separation, try to make your united country stronger and better.
@@hamedmmk3589 Somaliland were independent before it mistakenly had United with Somalia and that union never worked. Now the Somalilanders reclaim their independent country. Therefore, Somaliland's case is unique and should be look at it differently!!!
Hamed mmk somaliland and Somalia were always separate, during colonial times and beforehand.
@These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends For texas it's a bit difficult, seeing as its written in the constitution states legally can't secede. My point was Somaliland and Somalia were seperate entities in colonial times, and the idea that there's a unifying force between them isn't really true. There's far more to unify texans and other americans than somalis and somalilanders.
@These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends somalilands people did not choose to unite instead politicans and colonial powers of Britain and italy did it instead. so the unification of the two was un democratic. other states in somalia will not break off from somalia as they have advantages and are included in the 4.5 system whereas people from somaliland are not. the 4.5 system is used to elect officials into somalias government meaning that people from somaliland dont get representation in parliament.
Texas doesnt even speak a different language or have different culture/history to the rest of the southern US history was killing the natives taking their land importing west Africans stopping slavery changing it to sharecropping and imprisonment and segregation rise of the KKK then now police brutality so no difference.
Vive le Québec libre!
Vive le Québec libre
Belize, formerly British Honduras, is an independent country on the eastern coast of Central America. It is an Unitary Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy: Elizabeth II, the Queen of Belize and head of state. However, Belize has its Prime Minister, it is the same as Jamaica, Canada, Australia or New Zealand.
They always remember Tibet but always forget about Sinkiang (Turkstan) in western China, probably the largest country seeking independence nowadays.
Felipe Araújo agreed. The population was 99% Arab at one point yet they were part of china
Noah O'Grady arab? You mean muslim
It's Xinjiang, not Sinkiang🤦🤦🤦
Kurdistan live long!
Free Kashmir From Indian illegal Occupation.
Amateurs
Slovenia: *wants to leave*
Yugoslavia: aye bruh np
Bosnia and Croatia: *lets leave as well*
Yugoslavian Serbs: y'all gonna feel my warcrimes right now
You missed Kashmir and Rakhine.
Kashmir even may lead into nuclear war!
Somaliland deserves to be independent
NO
SOMALIA IS ONE NATION and will not be further balkanised. Smaller nations are weaker Somalia will not become even smaller with a growing population less land is counter productive.
Somali is one nation 🇸🇴🇸🇴🇸🇴
Baluchistan is also an independent country..they are illegally occupied by porkistan
suman karm khalistan is a country occupied by india
@@umershakoor1047 Khalistan was never a country but Balochistan is.
@@josheee7897 since when
They were independent at the very least around the fall of the Timurid Empire, though it was likely longer than that.
@@Arinzee Kashmir will self-destruct if it separates from India.
I like how at 1:26-1:28 Quebec, Scotland, Catalonia and Kurdistan fade away later than the other regions. Hidden meaning?
Probably because out of all the communities which want independence on this list, they would be the most stable.
@QuébecLibreBL I’ll y a 2 sortes de Québécois. Ta’s les Québécois, qui sont eduques, cultives, bien eleves… Pis t’as ceux qui ont vote oui😀
Typique des fédéralistes qui ont typiquement aucun argument autre que la peur et la propagande. Incapables d'expliquer en quoi le Canada bénéficie au Québec@@sdeepj
There will be many people talking of Kashmiri "freedom struggle" but no talk about the real inheritors of the Land, Kashmiri Pandits
Yeah Indian government forced them out
Ayush Acharya exactly
Uzair Mir 😂 400 years.???.. Before that there was no mughals and no radical voilent nutjobs who asked for freedom in Kashmir ..
Kashmir needs to be free of radicalisation... Not from India which it is part of from the first moment civilisation was born...
Kashmir WAS and IS india since Thousands of years... 400 years is a big joke..
Uzair Mir hmmm.. So there was no idea of india before 72 years... Okay...
But there was BHARATH and there was Hindustan from before even your religion was fantasized...
Even when 200 + entities were here they referred the geography as BHAARATH and HINDUSTAN... even when before 3000 - 5000 years there was Hindustan..
Even before Buddhism flourished in Kashmir there was Hindustan..
You don't teach me history kid..
You are biased in your views..
You can scream and cry freedom..
Just realize you are already free..
If you are expecting anything more than this... You are a nuisance to yourself and for the rest..
Again go yell aazadi...
But that's not happening kid...
Go now... Shooooo shooo
Uzair Mir islam is the newest religion on earth...
Lol you radicalized religious nutjobs always come up with stoopid logic and unbelievable connections...
Even Christianity is older than islam...
In Kashmir, there would no islam without invasion and force..
Islam - youngest and most undermatured religion on planet earth currently..
With fanciful fairytales in their followers mind..
Freedom for California
Most of us would call that freedom from California
not even close to a majority in California want independence
*GÊLAWDÊOWŠ* Toilet Bowl that alone would be the Sixth economy in the world. Hmmm where are you from?
Deivs Hdz Tks to US govermment mate, I hope California to get its independence someday so its leftist rulers could ruin the shit out of your "country"
It's illegal via the Constitution of the United States for states to leave the PERPETUAL UNION if any state wanted to leave they would have to face the armed forces and sanctions/embargoes look at what happend to the first time states wanted to leave, a war was fought over it and lost. It's pointless to leave the US unless all 50 states agreed to dissolve the US.
Rumors are Pakistan is going to change their name from Pakistan to terroristan lmao
Very funny,you're name also says it
Osama Bin Laden approves your comment from the bottom of the ocean
Ryan Ĺesãñvîć didn't notice that😂😂😂
So, the land of the terrori?
"Man draws imaginary lines on the planet and says, "This is a Frenchman, a Musselman, an Italian!" Upon these differences wars are waged. Men are fighting for the possession of the earth. They fight for that which becomes their graves, their cemeteries, their tombs." - Abdu’l-Baha, Divine Philosophy, Baha'i Faith
Free Slovenia!
Ah damn, Slovenia is already free.
Annex Slovenia!
Hail Giratina The true god Yeah but you dont have a border with Slovenia, unless Anschluss is in order...
While you're at it you might aswell annex Croatia since you already own half of it, although I dont know what the Russians would have to say as they own the other half.
Evilsamar, Croatia will annex your ass!!!
People need to understand about the station in somaliland . Somaliland was a country that united with Somalia in 1960 after the British colony and the Italian colony left the land. Somaliland came to somalia with the idea of having the republic of Somalia. Somalia welcomed that idea and the 2 countries joined to form the republic of Somalia 1961. After 3 decades of killing the Somaliland people with nothing Somaliland decided to withdraw from Somalia in 1991, since then Somaliland was looking for independence and Somalia is holding them back. Somaliland is considered one of the safest countries in Africa if not the safest.
they should be recognized as independent from the pirate terrorists
Toni Kross You can dream but it’s not happening, the world isn’t gonna look at you differently.
If you don’t like How Somalia functions you can’t just try to leave then try to take a bunch of land with you, if you want to not be affiliated with us go find some other land but it’s not ours.
I can tell you right now
As someone who IS from so called somaliland
Many many people here don't want to live in a nation dominated by a stupid tribe who sought out their own annihilation at the hands of Barre
Not to mention everyone I mean EVERYONE suffered under barre's regime
They are separatists
Somaliland was a country before somalia because British gave them independence before Italians gave southern somalia independence
It is bullshit
They are both product of colonialism
They consider themselves different because British rules over them
They are somali
They speak somali
They have the same blood
Somaliland will never EVER be recognized
For the sake of the small Dir clan of awdal who is loyal to the central government and the darod clan members in sanaag and sool somaliland will never EVER GET INDEPENDENCE
If they do insurgency will definitely start
We are not about to live like second class citizens in our own homes because of some stupid isaac retards I guarantee you that
What about northern Ireland??
Oran5 5 we want to be a part of new zealand
Northern Ireland is predominantly Protestant Christian and prefer to align with the UK instead of Ireland.
Oran5 5 won’t happen Britain used to be so big but not longer..
What about it? LoL.
Somaliland was recognised by the british they even send A congratulation letter
Yes thats so true Britain is our biggest friend and 2020 will be the year of proving that friendship
Thanks Iwill hope incha Allah
So the Brits support independence?
*Happy Scottish noises*
Somaliland, Somalia... What's the difference?
What about California, and Texas, lolll.
Elijah Hua pssh Texas probably wouldn't last a week
If they didn't live in such a polarised country with such a powerful government I'm pretty sure they would start to think about the possibility of independence.
There's very little support for either region's independence. Other regions like Catalonia, Kurdistan, etc. have overwhelming local support for independence; with the US states it's not much more than a faint idea, almost a joke a lot of the time.
It is illegal for a state to leave the Union. The only way for a state to leave the United States is for the United States to be disbanded. Not going to happen. Stars and stripes forever!
Never happen man. Our country isn’t as divided as it may seem. Besides, the separatist part of the Us is SoCal right now, and they poll very low. The rest of the state wants nothing to do with it. Secession brings chaos and Balkanization, which will weaken Americans in the long run. Et Unionis Semper !
In kashmir map you have included jammu and ladakh regions of the state as people demanding separation..both these comprise 84% of the population of the state of jammu and kashmir(India)..these regions are not vying for separation but complete integration with India. As a citizen residing in jammu region of the state, i find it utterly irresponsible to misrepresent kashmir valley(16000km2) as sole representative of an area around 105555km2..
ashuexcel exactly
Dhawal Jain it's 2018, its now muslim majority. stop living in the past.
Free Balochistan
@@faristaj2326 because of what? The ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Hindus will never be forgotten. As a punishment we will always ensure these seperatists die under The soil of a united India.
@@gunner9936 It will not be soon brother, Balochistan shall become free one day from the artificial country that is Pakistan
If "Northern Cyprus" has "struggled" to become an independent country, then Republic of Cyprus has struggled more when they had their land invaded by Turks. And also if Northern Cyprus strugglss, then South Ossetia and Crimea struggle too
We are from New Mexico, we are from California, We are from Texas, We are from Hawaii !!! We are fighting to go independent! Don't forget us!! ! ! !
you want to form a state? get yourself an army and they better be a good one. other wise never.
Just like what the Communists did right? Hypocrits.
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
but... but the jews!!!
Or suck up to NATO and convince USA they have their own interest in your new "independent" country.
Richard Chen Yes. Exactly like the red army.
Belize??? Belize is fully independent and even is part of the CARICOM regional trade block with other territories in the Caribbean. As far as I know only Guatemala claims Belize as their own but that's just propaganda and it is in no way a dependent state
Reese Anderson usurped territory belonging to Guatemala!
How about Scotland Independence....we support
It was sold by some people for free high education.
REPUBLIC of SOMALILAND will get Recognition ✊
We won’t
Quebec has all requirements yet they aren't allowed to become independent...
Breenud39 TV ha ha quebec would last one week you are a province that takes more than it gives but hey as long as we don't have to speak French anymore I'm cool with that
Québec doesn't have all of the requirements. The majority of Québécois don't want independence.
Do a little bit of research and you will see that Quebec alone could do very well as a country, its debatable if it would do better than within Canada, but at the end they would be much better then most of the world...
Éric Grisé I think Quebec would survive by itself but for sure the rest of Canada will just get poorer and possibly have a war with Quebec. You never know..
Well Canada wouldnt fight Québec since they would lose popular support. But they did say the Yes needs to win by a clear margin, therefore 51% of people supporting independence might be denied by Ottawa, which is anti-democratic
My house is a country in Melbourne, Australia. It is called Houseland. The capital is the Master Bedroom. I had a independence rally in the city of Balcony. I have many minorities of people including Books, Clothes And Video Games. I have a defined territory, the borders is where my gates and fences are. I am also leader and have absolute power of my country. And I have allies. My mates apartment is my biggest allie. Now I'm am officially a country!
At 1:13 since when is Belize not independent
I'm waiting for states in the US to declare independence and I want China to recognise them and provide them with weapons and ammunition. I sincerely wish that this is going to happen in the next 4 years.
Where is Balochistan? Which is thriving for independence since the birth of Pakistan. You biased economist !! 🙄🙄
khan Pork Shit eater !! 😂😂
khan That was the past u moron ! We are the most tolerant religion ! India is the most welcoming country for all ! Jews were persecuted everywhere but not in India ! We Hindus love to introspect ourselves and try to be better unlike Muslims who love to blow themselves in the name of religion by invoking ALLAH ke gaand me bismillah ! 😛😛
khan 😂😂 your frustration is evident from ur lines ! U don't have logic to argue so u resort to abuses and blah blah ! May Ass of Allah bless you ! 😛😛 Tata
khan go name your daughter as aisha I'll become muhammad for her. Bloody pisslamy
Kumar Gaurav LOl thats their name.
Scotland is a country
Hugo One amazing country.
thecoder101 not from Scotland but what would we do without no scotch
Nope. It’s a region in the U.K.
It's a dependent country under the UK. Kinda like how Greenland is a dependent country under Denmark
Not a proper country though
Seeing Bavaria in Hungary lets me understand the real intelligence of the american
Weird how Tibet is in the map while people there aren't into independence but Palestine isn't
Man I hate so much these kind of biased videos omg..
Comments* (autocorrect). c'est la vie
Taiwan Independence actually isn't causing too many problems at the moment. Taiwan is wealthy, free, open-minded, friendly, and is loved by almost everyone except China and China's dogs (such as the United Nations).
In fact, it is China which is causing much of the problems in that region, not Taiwan. China's Communist regime is tyrannical, despotic, and despicable. Many people outside of China would love to see it crumble one day. But many people inside China have been brainwashed into supporting the Communist government from a young age.
Kashmir isn't trying to be a sovereign state, thats misinformation
its a disputed territory which pakistan says is theirs but the british left it with a maharaja who went with india so. technically and by status quo its Indian.
the plebiscite was not for an independent state it was for deciding which constitution will govern Kashmir and btw Jinnah rejected the offer to have a referendum because he knew people will not vote to join pakistan.
and the pakistanis have been tryin ever since to brainwash the populus in favor of a anti-indian rule
Brad Bobley agree with u
Sajal sharpshooter U can't have freedom when most of the people doesn't even want it! Try asking the people outside of Kashmir valley! Do you think Buddhist, Sikh,Hindus want it! Not even whole Muslims population of jk! World second largest Muslim population is in India, they don't even support u! It seems glorious and all fighting for freedom But in reality it's completely filled with blood of thousands! I'm not Indian or I support India! Ok;
Brad Bobley your name is Brad thats not a pakistani name nor hindu
Su Mura you idiot first indonesia 220.000.000 then pakistan 200.000.00+
then india 190.000.000 hindus in india are converting to islam
we SOMALILAND as well we were British SOMALILAND protectorate only five days after our independence we lost with volunteer unity Somalia republic which IS never succeeds. Inshallah, we will get our recognition back soon viva Somalilanders live your enemies
Me too pro
You missed Balochistan they r fighting for freedom since 1947.Free Balochistan.
Where is Baluchistan
akash singh what is baluchistan
Mola bola a province of Pakistan
Nya&Stuff thank you! Never heard of it before.
akash singh it's in Pakistan if you don't know 😊
Mola bola It's a Province of Pakistan where india is funding terrorism... but they are failing as more and more terrorists are surrendering to Army...
You can add the fifth requirement: A region needs to be in a strategic location and a part of a weak country that a superpower can secede in order to get a proxy state.As is the case with Kosovo,all the other ex Yugoslav states,South Sudan and others.
Kosovo is NOT a proxy state, but has a security guarantee
Kosovo, most likely, the rest of the former Yugoslav states really should be independent, they are distinct ethnic groups. South Sudan has more claim than any Yugoslav country because it's literally a separate race and religion from Sudan
Where Is " TEXAS FREEDOM MOVEMENT " ????
They did
Dude Texas join in USA on purpose
@@harrishromero6447 So?
4:13 Belize is an independent nation
Eroor 101 no Palestine found!
Somali Nat Soc accept my state Israel and the USA. The only 2 states that matter in this case...
Somali Nat Soc finally someone objective...😂😂😂
Error not eroor
fonfobells because it's part of Israel
Yassine Sabri because we give equal rights to the Arabs citizens, all women and the LGBT people. Do the Palestinians give equal rights to all women and LGBT people? I don’t think so...
Free Gilgit & baltistan, Free Sindhudesh Free Balochistan
E Cognitio Enough 🙂? 🤔 name some more states
manish bhaskar LOL... they all are free except Gilgit Baltistan... people there want constitutional rights as a Pakistani
manish bhaskar there are more than 67 freedom movements in india
United Ireland 🇮🇪
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Justin Y. Cousin 🏴🇬🇧
@@viennic8592 imagine being an inbred bitch to england
@Benosoar Its majority protetstants that's why
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Francoist and monarchist Spaniards against the independence of Catalonia.
You people just like to take the name of Kashmir. Even without knowing about it properly.
Brad Bobley Those everybody should come here and see by themselves. And those everybody should read a bit of history as well.
@@pdpbasak Yeah Kashmir is illegally occupied by India and Pakistan and should be a separate country like it was before 1947.
Balochistan wants freedom from Pakistan , n Kashmir is the internal part of India.
Nation First lol no
Good luck with that Racially different? Pakistanis, Northern Indians, Kashmiris, Afghanis are the same race: Indo Aryans.
Ajay Ganjoo On which bases ?..goes for both...
Good luck with that
Where are you from bro?
I’m danish and Greenland would fail totally as a independent state
And a realist. The average Greenlandic citizen in Greenland get a average of 175.000 dollars each year
@@oscarpall6604 Denmark should completely abolish Greenland's autonomy and just make it another province with some special subsidizes.
Make Denmark Great again.
Oscar Pall yep
Give them to Canada
@@splashnskillz37 Why would we do that?
Why everyone says Bavaria wants be indopedent?! Like what the heck!!! I mean yes they had history but it does not mean they want indopedence
:)
Small Countries are easier to control for Superpowers... Only united we small nations have a chance to protect and keep our sovereignty !
Maxime Schmitt yep
Maxime Schmitt US do whatever it takesto get power. They even created ISIS
Артур Андриянов
Exactly. Actually I think the world would be a better place without those 3 cancers: Islam, Marxism and the USA.
Maxime Schmitt what is wrong with islam? It is just a religion. Christianity did alot of shit too.
Marxism? If Robin Hood is a good guy, then why is communism bad?
Артур Андриянов the theory of marxesism only works in when there's smoll people like 10 to 50.
I am from Taiwan. My personal identity is that I am a Taiwanese, and Taiwan is an independent country. I am not a Chinese nor from a province of China.
Statistics show most young and mid-aged generation Taiwanese hold the same personal identity as mine. For historical reasons, the constitution we have in Taiwan was written around 1949 in mainland China by Chinese, and the constitution we have does not accurately express our personal identities. China has been thwarting Taiwan from independence claims, and that's why we haven't changed this biased and dated constitution.
The fact is that, we are definitely a self-ruled country. We have our own currency. We vote for our president. We can use Google, UA-cam, and Facebook freely. We were born and raised in the environment with free speech, free market, protection of human rights, and democratic elections. These experiences differentiate our identities from mainland Chinese. We are just different. Admit it.
Please ask European Union and USA to free Catalonia first before you want to free Republic of China(Taiwan).
cut the freedom bullshit. Taiwan is not the only place hace freedom. Speaking of which you guys dont even have sovereignty. Taiwan is part of China. You guys speak FuJian province language, believe the MaZu god,which is same as FuJian people, and sharing same Chinese culture. And I didnt see any difference between Traditional Chinese and Simplify Chinese. Both of them are understanable for Chinese. Currently, under the one country two system, CCP allowed you guys to have your own currency and passport. But dont take other people's kindness as your bargin power. It will never end well.
_"We are just different. Admit it."_
It's not the topic of the video.
iamhomeiamhome yeah like every other regions in China, they are different from each others. You are not special, you are just a "special snowflake", being a bit different is not special . The truth is you the so called "Taiwanese" are still ethnically Chinese.
Deal with it.
@adrian1234544
_"like every other regions in China, they are different from each others."_
The rest of the world treats it differently. That doesn't seem to be a small detail to me. Virtually no one recognises Taiwan but nearly everyone deals with it as it was a fully independent sovereign state. As they say: "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck"
I like how you showed Belize even though it is a country already
That Kurdish map is wrong. And Iraq didn’t seize the land back they stole it and claimed it theirs but that land had been the Kurds land for centuries. And the Kurdish map is way bigger that drawn
Balochistan will be free
khalistan*
Wise One , lol with its capital in lahore
Reeta Sharma In Sha Allah it will be freed from indian funded terrorists
Humza Noor you mean rebels whom families you killed. Hmmmm
Humza Noor
Do allaha hu akabar *bomb*
I had to represent South Sudan at a Model U.N. thing in 2016, that was hard as hell.
When talking about "independence movement in Taiwan", it's important to mention that Taiwan has NEVER been ruled or controlled by CCP government in Beijing, therefore, maybe more like a "Reminder-to-the-world movement" instead of a "independence movement".
But if you're talking with a Taiwanese, then mostly likely the "independence movement" s/he talks about is the movement that denies the legitimacy of current Taiwanese government to rule Taiwan.
In conclusion, everyone knows Taiwan is a sovereign state that Beijing government has been trying to occupy since 1949, but failed, and people in Taiwan wants to keep it this way.
Common point of Separatism all over the world; Invador Wiped out native people and persist them Difference where they came from. Ridiculous. Science doesn’t care your Separatism Mr. Chang even Chang is not Taiwanese(many Native in there) style surname. And I know native Taiwanese hate who Invade Chinese.
소준영 This has nothing to do with separatism, would you call Korea not being part of Japan a result of separatist movement? No, it's the result of war and different governments, same thing in Taiwan! If by "native Taiwanese" you mean the people in Taiwan before 1949, well, I am a "native Taiwanese" in your definition, so... I guess you're trying to tell me what do I think of my country? Nah, no thank you.
Correction: northern Cuprus was invaded by Turkey, who then established a puppet state as the Turkish Republic of Northern Cuprus , that now ask for recognition, not Independence.
WHAT ABOUT FREE HAWAII
Jarren Ong it's a joke
Jarren Ong bring back the monarchy lmao
Hawaii has some of the highest homeless rates in any US states.
Hawaii belongs to the natives. In fact the entire USA was stolen. BBC did a video about it.
ua-cam.com/video/SM8WZ0ztMuc/v-deo.html
Jarren Ong It's illegal for states to leave the union.
Josh When did I say anything about China??
Somaliland is the only one here that really can meet the requirements. Just recognize her already people. Or maybe they waiting for law and order to breakdown so that they can come in and loot? Somaliland is already independent and just requires recognition.
Mohamod abdullahi farah true that
You wish, somaliland is state like rest of other states.
Hopefully soon.
Taiwan?
Mohamod abdullahi farah somaliland waa somaalia sxb dad ayaa doonaya in ay kala geeyaan somaalida waa dad isku diin isku luuqad isku daqan cadaawad maxey tahay sxb siyaasin oo waxa jira oo xirir la leg dawladaha shishiye oo lacag ku dhaqeya waa siyaasinta somaliland siyaasintas waxey doonayaan in ey kala geyaan somaalida sxb aniga waxaan militari somaaliyed tababar ayaan ku jiraa waana so socda waxan doonaya in aan wax kaqabto arintan siyaasintaan caloosho
da o shaqeysatayasho sxb somalia hanoilatoo
*I support Balochistan freedom's 👍👍👌👌👌👌*
😁✌
*And me as a baloch I support Khalistan Nagaland South India and Kashmir*
*And one more thing we don't want independence*
@@sandeepsinghtathgar i am balochi and we are Pakistani
There are some raw agents who want to separate balochistan from Pakistan
Balochistan is a region it’s not a state it will not get independence
@@amednbl you don't want freedom but Baloch get freedom by sacrifice their blood for our mother land LONG LIVE BALOCHISTAN DOWN THE TERRORIST POKISTAN
In the name of justice and freedom. I declared my bedroom as an independent country
1:13 It's Somaliland, not Somaililand... Also Puntland, Belize, and the Republic of China.
We care, is the Golden Republic of Somaliland, and not Somalia.
ZAHRA AHMED what is so golden about it. Bunch of khat chewing lunatics.
ZAHRA AHMED Your kindergarten mentality doesn't surprise me. or wait you could be marqaan right now, it's been lovely dream you had for couple of hours or days may be that you've been chewing that Shit. Wake up you ain't rich, you live in a desert, there's no blessings there just mad people "wannabe country" when right time comes the good people of W. Galbeed Somaliya will come back insha Allah, you can as well :) QABIIL CAN'T BE A NATION.
ZAHRA AHMED You seem triggered very unstable person.
Call me every name in the book but you are Somali, and we love you. Wipe the fake and hatred tears. Somaliya ha noolaato.
ZAHRA AHMED ZAHRA AHMED You are probably living a Shit life lonely and miserable and no one likes you, and you are disappointment to your family that's why you mad at Somaliweyn.
The video is a good attempt at explaining the issues involved with redrawing borders as well as some of the legal criteria which would satisfy statehood. I would just like to clarify two points; firstly, "agreed terms" is one of the most important conditions for satisfying statehood if we would look at custom- it is very rare that states would recognise a seceding province if the host state did not recognise said secession (except where host state no longer exists, eg. Yugoslavia). Secondly, Taiwan itself does not define itself as a seceding province from China; instead, the Taipei government considers itself the legitimate government of the whole of China, with the official name being the Republic of China. This means that Taiwan itself considers the PRC essentially as a "renegade" province of the state it claims i.e. Taiwan is not interested in being recognised as the Island of Taiwan, instead from an official and legal point of view seeks recognition as the only legitimate state of China.
You forgot Tamil Eelam an independent country demanded from the Sri Lanka
தமிழீழம் வெல்வோம்
4 things to form a country
1 Balls
2 Backing of a superpower
3 Kahunas
4 More balls
ROC is ROC, neither PRC nor Taiwan.
tse yang China is China, the difference is republic or people's republic only, no doubt Taiwan Is A part of China. Hahaha
Taiwan is a part of China. It is the biggest province administrated by the ROC
There is no ROC. It is POC - Province of China!
hmsiew ccp commie detected
Clement Young Taiwan is a province of Peoples Republic of China.
In order for any region to be independent, it has to get recognition from 5 permanent member states of the UNSC. Otherwise, it is meaningless.
usa,france,uk,russia and china im guessing?
United nations space command?
I'm Catalan, and here people are just crazy about this topic.
At least half of the population yes.. I'm pretty neutral, but yes... These months have been very strange because of manifestations.
I'm from the Sarawak, *(Forgotten independent sovereign kingdom in island of borneo locate in southeast Asia, who's part of malaysia today)* we want out from malaysia! Sabah and Sarawak should recognise to the world!!!