Best advice I ever got for steep terrain is you want to keep a small amount of weight on your hands no matter how steep it gets (body position). I was always hanging off the back of bike for dear life in steeps until I made an effort to stay forward a bit. I’m not saying lean forward, just stay forward enough so you can still steer and brake.
As a fairly new mid 40’s rider…. I struggled trying to find legit teaching videos on UA-cam….you definitely can get lost in the weeds. After watching a pile I really clicked with Kyle & April’s stuff …it was easy to relate to as a newer rider. Then stumbled onto your stuff after watching your “game of BIKE “video with Kyle. (Really enjoyed watching it) Just listened to a podcast that you and Kyle did on his channel. It’s a great listen and puts things into perspective on your teaching style, experience and your abilities. Your videos have helped me a lot to understand the dynamics of why you need to do certain thing to make it happen……made thing clearer for sure. I really would like to take a few day clinic like you guys do to have that direct feedback. Any Canada clinics planned? Or Montana? Excellent work!!!! 🤙
Love all your videos making me a way more confident rider fellas. Wish you could bring TRS to Calgary Alberta. A lot of us would sign up lol. Hint hint.
Everything you're saying made sense but if you had some better visuals to go along with it I think that would help a lot. For example, showing the correct and incorrect body position next to each other, and then highlighting the difference with a marker or something. Thanks for the video! You got a new subscriber here
I agree. As someone who's still a beginner but has watched probably ~3 hours of YT MTB tutorials (multiple channels), I know the difference Caleb was making in body position between the wrong and correct attempts. But I think the method Kyle & April use to clearly show that shift in body position is what worked the best. Kyle (& crew?) keeps the exact same angle for each shot, and would freeze frame and just drawing a single white line thru the spine and maybe using a reference point on the bike could not make things easier. But if that's too complicated for y'all (I see the sass in the Guy Ritchie comment lol), you could just do a voiceover with slow-mo replays discussing what Caleb or whichever Drew did wrong/correct in that particular clip. No line drawings required.
Hey guys, great info! We've got some ridiculously crazy steep/sharp berms in Little Rock AR at Two Rivers trails. You gotta come check em out. You can hit Pinnacle Mt state park trails as well as Rattlesnake Ridge natural area trails. They're all within probably a 10 mile area and are all awesome man
Great video guys! But I think it’s “dangerous” saying you should put your weight back when descending. As a beginner it’s hard putting your weight back and simultaneously having enough pressure on the front wheel. I believe this cue is counterintuitive. I believe It’s better using the “get as low as possible” cue. That will put your weight centered and automatically more back but still keeps the weight on the front wheel. Keep up the good work! 👍🏼
I'm not sure calling it "dangerous" is warranted. Your body should automatically get low when you're getting behind the saddle, so it accomplishes both things, no?
OK, now can you show us how to do this on a hardtail without a dropper post? Because this looks a lot like the section that challenges me every year in my main mountain bike race. Except that it's even narrower, and it starts with going over a slippery root. :)
@@richdrewtherideseries Thanks! I'll continue to rely just on prayers before the race. I only crashed three times on training, been lucky in the races so far. 😁
I'm finding myself shitting myself of steep stuff. I mainly race xc but I've been exploring some of my locals natural trails recently on my 100mm hardtail I just never feel I have enough traction in my back wheel to slow down sufficiently. On these sort of turns do you lean away from the turn to get high then lean into the turn with your outside foot down and knees/hips pointed towards exit? Basically no breaking. On my bike it feels I'm at a 90 degree angle!
Great vid guys... I do wish you had picked multiple steep turns for instance one that was loose though, as most steep turns you will find racing enduro will be even steeper and looser/slicker due to high traffic and conditions. Body position is huge as you touch on, but so is weighting the bike properly and staying loose in loose turns letting the bike do the work. Just my 2 cents from an old washed up dude haha
Hi Rich, I have allways the feeling that I do not need to change the position of my feet depending on the direction of the turn. If I understood you right, that is exactly what you said. Stay centered amb neutral. Is that right? If I try to change. As example putting my left foot up and front in right turns and the contrary in left turns I feel very uneasy and unconfortable.
are you saying left foot heel down/toes up and infront of the right foot (so, neutral riding position with feet level), or your left foot up, and right foot down to get extra bite into the left turn? in a berm corner, typically you keep feet level since the bank gives you that grip. whichever foot you keep in front is up to rider's preference - I think most people have their dominant (right) foot in the back, although I seem to prefer my dominant foot in front for some reason.
Best advice I ever got for steep terrain is you want to keep a small amount of weight on your hands no matter how steep it gets (body position). I was always hanging off the back of bike for dear life in steeps until I made an effort to stay forward a bit. I’m not saying lean forward, just stay forward enough so you can still steer and brake.
Great advice!
As a fairly new mid 40’s rider…. I struggled trying to find legit teaching videos on UA-cam….you definitely can get lost in the weeds.
After watching a pile I really clicked with Kyle & April’s stuff …it was easy to relate to as a newer rider. Then stumbled onto your stuff after watching your “game of BIKE “video with Kyle. (Really enjoyed watching it)
Just listened to a podcast that you and Kyle did on his channel. It’s a great listen and puts things into perspective on your teaching style, experience and your abilities.
Your videos have helped me a lot to understand the dynamics of why you need to do certain thing to make it happen……made thing clearer for sure.
I really would like to take a few day clinic like you guys do to have that direct feedback. Any Canada clinics planned? Or Montana?
Excellent work!!!! 🤙
You can’t get any better advice than from a drew! Dope video as always!
Thanks man!
So good! Another BANGER.
Glad you liked it dude!!
Love the vibe you guys have! Always loose. Always fun. 🔥
Thanks Tony!
Rob is so smart, damn!
He'll certainly tell you that
Great instructional video. I’ve just subscribed so looking forward to looking at some of your other videos and watching your future ones.
The line, "So we're on the steepest trail in the world" cracked me up.
Hi Rich it’s Austin thank you for today
So excited
Hellz yeah! It's like you read my mind on what I needed to know! Solid content as always from the Drew Bros and Caleb!
I'm deep in your mind Luke...make room ;)
@@richdrewtherideseries 🤣😂
I was one of the ones who went by you there. I was in the backseat but didn't almost wreck. I needed this video before I rode that day haha
And thanks very much for the channel!
Our pleasure!
Love all your videos making me a way more confident rider fellas. Wish you could bring TRS to Calgary Alberta. A lot of us would sign up lol. Hint hint.
Looking forward to this. Will be really surprised if Tip #1 for Windrock isn't "Bring a dual crown DH bike".
Haha!! Maybe we should’ve added that in there 😉
Great video as always.
Thank you J Bagz!
Should show the turn in slow motion, that help to see what to do and what not.
Will do next time
Everything you're saying made sense but if you had some better visuals to go along with it I think that would help a lot. For example, showing the correct and incorrect body position next to each other, and then highlighting the difference with a marker or something. Thanks for the video! You got a new subscriber here
We're bringing in Guy Ritchie to direct the next one, I think we will nail it.
I agree. As someone who's still a beginner but has watched probably ~3 hours of YT MTB tutorials (multiple channels), I know the difference Caleb was making in body position between the wrong and correct attempts. But I think the method Kyle & April use to clearly show that shift in body position is what worked the best. Kyle (& crew?) keeps the exact same angle for each shot, and would freeze frame and just drawing a single white line thru the spine and maybe using a reference point on the bike could not make things easier.
But if that's too complicated for y'all (I see the sass in the Guy Ritchie comment lol), you could just do a voiceover with slow-mo replays discussing what Caleb or whichever Drew did wrong/correct in that particular clip. No line drawings required.
Great stuff guys!
Thanks Chris!
Great advice! Love the how to’s!
Thanks Julio!
Great video Rich, Rob, Andy, (and intern haha).
Thanks DW! 👊🏻
Hey guys, great info! We've got some ridiculously crazy steep/sharp berms in Little Rock AR at Two Rivers trails. You gotta come check em out. You can hit Pinnacle Mt state park trails as well as Rattlesnake Ridge natural area trails. They're all within probably a 10 mile area and are all awesome man
Hey Chad! I’m really hoping to get down there at some point very soon, I’ve heard it’s awesome!
Good stuff 💯🤘🏾
Thank you!
Nice video, well done. I have an of the wall question... what knee pads and/or elbow pads do you all use or like? Thanks.
Awesome video dude very informative and entertaining! Thank You from me and my Channel in the United Kingdom!❤️🏴❤️
Glad you enjoyed!
Your not in Ar Kansas anymore! Great info, thanks for the Rad video!
So true!!
Great video guys!
But I think it’s “dangerous” saying you should put your weight back when descending. As a beginner it’s hard putting your weight back and simultaneously having enough pressure on the front wheel. I believe this cue is counterintuitive.
I believe It’s better using the “get as low as possible” cue. That will put your weight centered and automatically more back but still keeps the weight on the front wheel.
Keep up the good work! 👍🏼
copy that
I'm not sure calling it "dangerous" is warranted. Your body should automatically get low when you're getting behind the saddle, so it accomplishes both things, no?
Need to talk about front and rear brake usage / proportion during the turn.
I agree. "Use as needed"
OK, now can you show us how to do this on a hardtail without a dropper post? Because this looks a lot like the section that challenges me every year in my main mountain bike race. Except that it's even narrower, and it starts with going over a slippery root. :)
Not a chance Patrick! I'll never ride a bike without a dropper if I can help it. Good luck!
@@richdrewtherideseries Thanks! I'll continue to rely just on prayers before the race. I only crashed three times on training, been lucky in the races so far. 😁
I'm finding myself shitting myself of steep stuff. I mainly race xc but I've been exploring some of my locals natural trails recently on my 100mm hardtail I just never feel I have enough traction in my back wheel to slow down sufficiently. On these sort of turns do you lean away from the turn to get high then lean into the turn with your outside foot down and knees/hips pointed towards exit? Basically no breaking. On my bike it feels I'm at a 90 degree angle!
Need another “live” video so PantherRS5 can buy y’all a coffee!
SOON!!
Time to go practice!
Always Chad!
@@richdrewtherideseries this was quite timely for me as we have a fair bit of steep and deep in the Okanagan (BC). Thanks for the tutorial.
Great vid guys... I do wish you had picked multiple steep turns for instance one that was loose though, as most steep turns you will find racing enduro will be even steeper and looser/slicker due to high traffic and conditions. Body position is huge as you touch on, but so is weighting the bike properly and staying loose in loose turns letting the bike do the work. Just my 2 cents from an old washed up dude haha
Practice, practice, practice.
So true!
So are there ever times you need to skid in a corner or endo lift the back tire to swing around a corner?
Heck yeah there are!!
Hi Rich, I have allways the feeling that I do not need to change the position of my feet depending on the direction of the turn. If I understood you right, that is exactly what you said. Stay centered amb neutral. Is that right? If I try to change. As example putting my left foot up and front in right turns and the contrary in left turns I feel very uneasy and unconfortable.
are you saying left foot heel down/toes up and infront of the right foot (so, neutral riding position with feet level), or your left foot up, and right foot down to get extra bite into the left turn? in a berm corner, typically you keep feet level since the bank gives you that grip. whichever foot you keep in front is up to rider's preference - I think most people have their dominant (right) foot in the back, although I seem to prefer my dominant foot in front for some reason.
Got a question. Is your brother in broadcasting?
He is, bit he goes by an alias…Ron Burgundy
What if the deep turn is chunky
My 2 year old granddaughter, after watching this...”you could get hurt doing that”, and “why aren’t they wearing pads like you, Dada?”
“What am I even doing here?” I often think that...
How would you compare the steepness of that turn to other places?
I guess you missed that this was the steepest trail in the world!😉
@@robdrew596 hmm did you ride horesface while you were there?
Well kandle weed is a freak of nature bc he does completely opposite of this and he is a beasttttttt
JKW is a different animal!
I'm not really sure what you are saying here
@@richdrewtherideseries he's saying Jeff rides hanging off the back of the bike.
Reach around? 🤣
this is not easy as you guys make it looks😂
Rich, those are cows not calves! :)
definitely not that steep if u can still walk up it easily
Touche