Ronin (1998) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!

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  • Ronin (1998)
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  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines Місяць тому +221

    You know what's amazing about this movie? SEAN BEAN DOESN'T DIE!

    • @Ernwaldo
      @Ernwaldo Місяць тому +16

      Nice

    • @slugerama
      @slugerama Місяць тому

      He was probably cast as a red herring. Everyone thinks he is the bad guy or going to die but he is just chicken shit who we never see again.

    • @jaredlackey9177
      @jaredlackey9177 Місяць тому +19

      He only gets figuratively murdered, lol.

    • @Th3Gam3925
      @Th3Gam3925 Місяць тому +2

      Yeah but they subtly threaten to kill him if he talks.

    • @strawdawgs78
      @strawdawgs78 Місяць тому +10

      And not knowing the color of the boathouse at Hereford saved his life.

  • @JohnBullard
    @JohnBullard Місяць тому +102

    "Did you ever kill anybody?"
    "I hurt somebody's feelings once."

    • @tommc3622
      @tommc3622 Місяць тому +6

      "You worried about saving your skin?"
      "Yeah, I am. It covers my body."

  • @karimhicks8376
    @karimhicks8376 Місяць тому +59

    The woman ice skater is the Olympic Gold medal winner, Katarina Witt.

  • @feudist
    @feudist Місяць тому +89

    The "Ronin" in the movie were all out of work Cold War Spooks and Special Ops. When the Soviet Union broke up, Europe was flooded with free lancers who went to work for mobsters and terrorists.
    That's why the events of the story were so deadly. Everyone is skilled, experienced and heavily armed.

    • @gordonhaire9206
      @gordonhaire9206 Місяць тому

      They were all amateurs compared to the CIA: the premier terrorist organization .

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Місяць тому +1

      But is it betrayal ?

    • @feudist
      @feudist Місяць тому +4

      @@lexkanyima2195 Among the characters in the movie? No, they were classic Ronin, masterless samurai, "Wave Men" (aka "drifters" in mythology of the Old west). The story of the 47 Ronin wasn't an analogy for the events of the movie, merely a reference.
      "Sam" was an agent of the US, literally a Samurai, so while undercover, he didn't betray anyone. Gregor was a treacherous criminal. Seamus was a terrorist.
      Vincent and Larry were classic Ronin.
      It's not clear if the Russians were agents or Mafiosi. Arguably, the hired men on salary would be Samurai, since a State employer isn't part of the technical description. Mafiosi would certainly qualify as liege lords.

  • @theaikidoka
    @theaikidoka Місяць тому +75

    One of the things that makes this movie so 'real' feeling is that the cast are all age-appropriate. They are all old enough to have spent time in this world, picking up skills, and they are all a little soft, a little grey, a little wrinkled. They are people you'd pass on the streeet and never know what they could really do. I love action movies, but ultra-buff guys in their 20's as elite intelligence/military types always feels wrong to me.

    • @broodhunter21
      @broodhunter21 Місяць тому +10

      That worked for George Clooney in The Peacemaker, as well, my experience living near a military base was that the 20 somethings might have been in good shape, but it was the mid 30s guys that seemed to have the skills.

    • @michaelangelocostello2599
      @michaelangelocostello2599 Місяць тому +3

      This is one of the big things for me about movies…. Nowadays they have kids playing these roles. That has always bothered me even when I was younger.

    • @te1013
      @te1013 Місяць тому +1

      @@broodhunter21Clooney in “The American” will always be my favorite role of his. He played such a nuanced character that you could believe had a military type past, and brought the physicality to back that up too.

  • @Cadinho93
    @Cadinho93 Місяць тому +133

    "Everyone's your brother until the rent comes due."
    Not enough people have seen this movie. It's a '70s classic made in the '90s. It a cast full of heavy hitters at the peak of their craft. It's a masterful exercise in tension and release. It's one of my favorites from the '90s and thank you for reminding me how much it rocks.
    Also, besides the great action scenes, what made this movie memorable to me was the impeccable chemistry between Robert De Niro and Jean Reno.

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner Місяць тому +13

      *Now they're ready to watch Bullitt, The Seven-Ups, The Conversation, The French Connection, Klute, Blue Thunder, The Sugarland Express, Three Days of the Condor, et al.*

    • @BDogg2023
      @BDogg2023 Місяць тому +7

      Quintessential 90s cast.

    • @carlossaraiva8213
      @carlossaraiva8213 Місяць тому +1

      Indeed. Those two made a great team. A sequel.could had been made with those two characters alone.

  • @jpa5038
    @jpa5038 Місяць тому +65

    Intelligent action film. Doesn't spoon feed you the plot, a ton of moving parts, definitely the type of movie you want to re-watch to fully understand it. One of my all time favorites and a lot of people have never even heard of it.

  • @JackOiswatching
    @JackOiswatching Місяць тому +56

    "Whenever there is doubt, there is no doubt." has stuck me ever since my dad and I watched this movie. He likes Frankenheimer's stuff a lot, for good reason!

  • @bmw128racer
    @bmw128racer Місяць тому +81

    "Ronin" is a great, highly underrated movie. Unlike most movies of this type, it doesn't force feed you all of the information... You have to pay serious attention and figure things out yourself. What's in the case is inconsequential... It's a McGuffin. A movie that's definitely worth multiple viewings to get the most out of it.

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 Місяць тому +4

      @bmw128racer, It isn't underrated, just overlooked, as is the case for a number of genre movies from that period. It was well received critically when released (as it has remained since), though not greatly successful at the box office.

    • @johnbrown8570
      @johnbrown8570 Місяць тому +3

      I loved this movie. My parents had it on VHS in the late 90s and it was one of my favorites to watch as a kid.

    • @te1013
      @te1013 Місяць тому +2

      @@johnbrown8570Same. I remember watching over and over when I was like 8 or 9. I don’t remember watching for the plot but De Niro’s character and the twists and action always caught my attention at that age lol. Appreciate it much more now as an adult.

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 Місяць тому +78

    The “Ice Skater “ is a real , very famous ice skater , an Olympic Champion
    “Katarina Witt”( may have misspelled)

    • @wadeheaton123
      @wadeheaton123 Місяць тому +6

      Katarina Witt won many gold medals for East Germany. After retirement, she became a Photomodel, pictorials in Playboy and all. In one competition, she had a "wardrobe malfunctions" during her routine. Flashbulbs everywhere.

    • @BDogg2023
      @BDogg2023 Місяць тому +9

      Massive crush on her as a teenager. Felt guilty with her being a commie and all. 😂

    • @arnodobler1096
      @arnodobler1096 Місяць тому

      And she was together with "MacGyver" Richard Dean Anderson.

  • @nightking0130
    @nightking0130 Місяць тому +77

    One one of the best chase films ever.

    • @redfrenchmoon2405
      @redfrenchmoon2405 Місяць тому +4

      100%

    • @CarlosRamirez-wb7zu
      @CarlosRamirez-wb7zu Місяць тому +9

      This film makes me want an Audi.

    • @peteparker22
      @peteparker22 Місяць тому +2

      I think the director made a famous racing movie in the 60s. Grand Prix it was called

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Місяць тому +3

      ⁠​⁠@@CarlosRamirez-wb7zuOh, honey, no no no! It's the BMW M5 you're supposed to lust for. You don't want that waaaay front-engine'd Audi's massive understeer, lifeless steering, etc. Audis are fundamentally flawed from the start as they are front-wheel-drive-based with their engines all the way up near the front bumper and in front of the front axle. That makes them as bad as possible: most of their weight is on the front, and worst of all it's in front of the front axle! That makes it reluctant to turn and it just always wants to plow forward with understeer. It just doesn't want to turn. Then even worse: being so unbalanced they have to do extreme and bad things to the suspension to try to compensate for that bad location of weight and to try to keep the front suspension from bottoming out and avoiding the car constantly rocking forward, which then compromises the suspension overall.
      Meanwhile the BMW is fundamentally nearly perfect with the engine mostly behind the front axle, perfect 50/50 weight distribution, it's eager to turn perfectly naturally, and the engineers were able to tune the suspension optimally. Then on top of that the engine is a masterpiece stemming from the M1's engine's design and shares the same heritage as the McLaren F1 engine, the S70, designed by the famous 'Camshaft'-Paul Rosche. That S38 engine even has individual throttle bodies, making its response razor-sharp! And it's mated to a Getrag manual gearbox instead of some slushy old automatic gearbox!

    • @russelschultz
      @russelschultz Місяць тому

      @@pistonburner6448 There's a shop near me that specializes in servicing German cars. BMW, Merc, Audi, VW, Porsche. His lot is always filled with BMW's needing service. Not so much the other brands.

  • @JordanCesaroni93
    @JordanCesaroni93 Місяць тому +44

    I have seen this film more times than I can count and I always find something new that makes me want to see it again. Jean Reno is my favorite here.

    • @andrewcrowder4958
      @andrewcrowder4958 Місяць тому +2

      “ Il m'a sauvé la vie.”

    • @broodhunter21
      @broodhunter21 Місяць тому +4

      I worked at a theater when this came out. The number of times I have seen it, complete or in parts, is staggering. Like hundreds of times. and I have owned it on DVD since it was released on dvd. Never gets old.

    • @ktoth29
      @ktoth29 Місяць тому +1

      Subtle detail, but the reason “Sam” ambushes Sean Bean is because he recognized him and didn’t want his cover blown.

  • @LordVolkov
    @LordVolkov Місяць тому +49

    I love the layers of misdirect in Ronin. Even the title is misleading, because Sam is still CIA, but playing disavowed (ronin) for his mission only to ultimately return with honor. He's trying to get to Seamus through Dierdre the entire movie, with little hints (he wants to go with her instead of to the gun deal, asking about how she got started, etc) that really pop out on a second viewing.
    It's also a fabulous use of a MacGuffin - it doesn't matter what's in the case, because it doesn't matter to Sam's goal. It only matters that we know who has it and what it looks like. So long as Dierdre wants it, and she is Sam's lead to Seamus, Sam is invested in the case and so are we.
    And never trust Stellan Skarsgard 😅

    • @genghisgalahad8465
      @genghisgalahad8465 Місяць тому

      But it's no mere Macguffin. It's actually the case that they gave me!

    • @wasgreg
      @wasgreg Місяць тому +3

      I also had a "huh" moment at the end when I first watched this movie. It was a new experience for me. Even at my young age, I realized I saw something different and quite amazing. The group I saw it with didn't like it, so I went the next day by myself to see it again. This movie is the opposite of a mess. It shows you everything you need for the movie and nothing more. As soon as it came to VHS, I bought it. I've felt the same about Heist and The Spanish Prisoner. We don't get the extra, because it isn't needed for the story.

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 Місяць тому +2

      @LordVolkov, If you're truly committed to the cause, you can trust Skarsgard in Andor (though that won't guarantee you won't be sacrificed down the line).

    • @blechtic
      @blechtic Місяць тому +1

      Well, the driver, Bean and Reno were criminals/hired guns, I think. The girl and Seamus were IRA. De Niro played a ronin, but I think Skarsgård was one and presumably the Russians too. Apart from Sam, none of them really had masters and even he might have been more like a commonly-used specialist-for-hire they'd sort of let off retainer and mostly stopped employing, who they simply hired for this one, than an operative. In a way, they were or might have been all ronin except for the guy Sam contacted for the phone trace.

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 Місяць тому +1

      @blechtic , Yes, while it may be obvious, I've wondered why Sam's contact told him, "I thought you were out" (or something to that effect) when they first met, if Sam had never left the agency and was on a regularly directed mission. Why would he say such a thing, in the moment, as he too, was clearly aware of the effort?

  • @broodhunter21
    @broodhunter21 Місяць тому +8

    The things you pointed out about the movie being messy are deliberate to give you that feeling. In the espionage world, you rarely trust anyone completely, you don't know what is going on, and sometimes, things just end abruptly without an obvious climax. The movie keeps you feeling what the characters are feeling., which drags you in

  • @trottheblackdog
    @trottheblackdog Місяць тому +55

    Sean Bean claimed to be a member of the British Special Air Service, a clandestine commando group. At the time, the SAS was based in Hereford. So the stuff about the boat house was Sam seeing if he was bluffing.

    • @genghisgalahad8465
      @genghisgalahad8465 Місяць тому +11

      So what color WAS the boathouse at Hereford?

    • @GearheadExplorer85
      @GearheadExplorer85 Місяць тому +19

      @@genghisgalahad8465 How the hell should I know

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 Місяць тому +10

      @trottheblackdog, He really didn't care what Spence claimed was his backstory. He already knew he was a fraud given his performance earlier on and just needed to be gotten off the team.

    • @genghisgalahad8465
      @genghisgalahad8465 Місяць тому +10

      @@GearheadExplorer85 where's Waingrow??

    • @TheHewhodareswins
      @TheHewhodareswins Місяць тому +6

      The was he says Hereford is wrong it’s said like hera- fud

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski Місяць тому +31

    14:11 "nice... nice." -daniel
    😁 the tiniest smile after he says nice and hatches his plan.

    • @1974dormouse
      @1974dormouse Місяць тому

      That gave me a good giggle. lol

  • @JonathanFaber
    @JonathanFaber Місяць тому +17

    "Sneakers" is a great heist film, with a stacked cast.

    • @whiskeysk
      @whiskeysk Місяць тому +1

      Sneakers is criminally underrated. What a brilliant movie. Also the technology doesn't look out of place even 30 years on.

  • @thatonedoood
    @thatonedoood Місяць тому +27

    Click is typically military vernacular for kilometer. 1 click = 1 kilometer

  • @GuardianOwl
    @GuardianOwl Місяць тому +13

    So for some historical context, this movie is from the late 90s. This is just a bit after the Soviet Union collapsed and the Cold War (which had been fought in the shadows between the USSR and the West basically since the end of WW2) had ended. The Cold War Involved a lot of highly trained operatives working behind enemy lines to gather intelligence and disrupt the enemy covertly. Suddenly the cold war ends and their countries, their masters says "we don't need so many of you anymore...bye." Hence the title "Ronin" the crew are mostly all former Cold Warriors, now masterless, choosing to offer their skills as mercenaries.
    So in the case of Sam, if he was _actually_ out of the CIA, he might not have even necessarily done anything wrong. Depending what country he was stationed in during the Cold War, they might not have needed his services in the field anymore. He might not have wanted a desk job at the CIA and so left.

  • @cgbleak
    @cgbleak Місяць тому +7

    I love how for the first long section, "Ronin" seems like a thinking person's spy movie, something John Le Carre would write. And then they bring out the guns and the cars.
    Supposedly ghost-written by David Mamet, and the juicy dialogue has his fingerprints all over it. So many memorable lines.
    Well reviewed on release, but a box office bomb. Found a second life in the home theater market.
    I'm pretty sure that tunnel system in Paris is were Princess Diana had her accident a few years later.

  • @user-sy5vv4ze3h
    @user-sy5vv4ze3h Місяць тому +10

    This is one of my favorite spy-thriller movies because it is so realistically portrayed. Everything is great, including the direction by John Frankenheimer, a top director in TV and movies for more than 40 years. I love the ending the most: not a comic-book, gift-wrapped ending, but underplayed, with no answers in the world of mirrors, just like in real life.

  • @mindped
    @mindped Місяць тому +18

    one of my favorite movies of all time. The little details speak way more volumes then the dialogue.

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski Місяць тому +19

    17:46 "little little tiny bomb." -daniel
    the tiny voice. 😆

  • @eyemknothear3312
    @eyemknothear3312 Місяць тому +10

    Your favorite character, Larry who was killed by Seamus, was played by Skipp Sudduth. Besides being an actor, Skipp did amateur racing and was his own stunt driver for the car scenes in "Ronin."

  • @jamesellis1972
    @jamesellis1972 Місяць тому +13

    Another good movie based in France is Frantic (1988) starring Harrison Ford. Great reaction. I love movies that are based in Europe such as the Bourne movies and many more.

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Місяць тому +1

      Frantic is very good, lots of Polanski classics to react to if they've put Rosemary's Baby behind them... ;-]

  • @nadronnocojr
    @nadronnocojr Місяць тому +6

    After bullit, and after the French connection , this became one of the greatest car chase movies, real cars no cgi…. Some great camera work… I don’t know aging well , because people watch fast n furious and think that’s exciting .. but for old timers like me it’s a classic, thanks for sharing your passion for movies , thanks for being an awesome couple and thanks for your honest and heartfelt reactions…. Love from nj

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Місяць тому +1

      I like the real car chase, no added sets or studio. Just real filming

  • @ActualFactualMagic
    @ActualFactualMagic Місяць тому +10

    Sadly the tunnel chase in this movie is later where Princess Diana would die in a wreck. This is an amazing movie for raw suspense. Very smart look at the underworld of international espionage done more realistically than James Bond. This is probably more like how things are in the real world.

    • @SierraSierraFoxtrot
      @SierraSierraFoxtrot Місяць тому +1

      I thought so too for many years but no, it's not the same tunnel, but it is practically identical.
      Diana died in Pont de l'Alma, the chase is in Boulevard Peripherique.

    • @ActualFactualMagic
      @ActualFactualMagic Місяць тому +1

      @@SierraSierraFoxtrot Ha, you mean a Paris taxi driver told me a lie?? LOL. I was literally told this during a business trip to France as we were in the tunnels. Oh well.

  • @PriceFamPrime
    @PriceFamPrime Місяць тому +10

    This is one of my favorite movies. I bought it on VHS (!) when it came out on video having never heard of it. What an awesome surprise it was. Deniro is so good in this, honestly the entire cast, and car chases are so frenetic and great! 10/10 for me!

  • @BongEyedBastard
    @BongEyedBastard Місяць тому +14

    Every time I hear De Niro pronounce Hereford as Hear-ford my heart sinks a little. Ronnie Radford did not die for this!

    • @Thewingkongexchange
      @Thewingkongexchange Місяць тому +3

      Hear Ford and Wor-chester-shire. I feel your pain as a person living there.

  • @carlossaraiva8213
    @carlossaraiva8213 Місяць тому +5

    The best thing about 1990s cinena was when they made movies in the style of the 1970s with 90s talent.

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Місяць тому +1

      Very true, even though CGI existed at this point (say, 1993's Jurassic Park) it still wasn't used as much as it is today where it's everywhere which is partly why movies now look so different, alas.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Місяць тому

      ​@@LarryFleetwood8675and they should have deminished by 2010's

  • @stsolomon618
    @stsolomon618 Місяць тому +25

    This film, Bullit, and French Connection had awesome car chase scenes.

    • @RaagulanRR
      @RaagulanRR Місяць тому +6

      The Driver (1978) had the greatest final car chase scene and a bonus car park scene where the driver shows his skill to his clients

    • @stsolomon618
      @stsolomon618 Місяць тому

      @@RaagulanRR I need to see that one

    • @ludovicoc7046
      @ludovicoc7046 Місяць тому +5

      Freidkin tops himself in "To Live and Die in LA" for a car chase sequence.

    • @thomasfahey8763
      @thomasfahey8763 Місяць тому +1

      All great movies!

    • @hallnall1667
      @hallnall1667 Місяць тому +2

      @@RaagulanRR Seven Up has a great car chase scene.

  • @frankieray2873
    @frankieray2873 Місяць тому +18

    Thank you so much I requested this a year ago. One of my favorite movies of all time

  • @BuddhasSoul
    @BuddhasSoul Місяць тому +12

    This I feel is one of those overlooked movies. And it is a fantastic movie. Great reaction guys.

  • @Zaburino
    @Zaburino Місяць тому +9

    44:47 This is so true! It's a movie by a veteran director with a bunch of veteran actors that pushes the line of practical stunts to limits still not tested, and somehow it never found the reach it deserves.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Місяць тому

      But is there so many added cgi ?

    • @Zaburino
      @Zaburino Місяць тому +1

      @@lexkanyima2195 Can you explain what you mean?

  • @azimhulaimi
    @azimhulaimi Місяць тому +11

    I love this film! Loved the dialogue, the mysterious plot about a briefcase, the character interactions with little backgrounds about them, and lastly, the car chase scene! Still better than any other car chase movie nowadays in my opinion. 👍👍

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski Місяць тому +6

    33:35 "😮😮😮" -sam
    great gasp. sam has one of the best on youtube.

  • @OneAndOnlyMe
    @OneAndOnlyMe Місяць тому +3

    The ending is very fitting to the nature of the movie. These are characters that are used to doing their jobs without asking too many questions. if they don't get to know what's in the case, they're fine with it, they move on to their next assignment.
    De Niro's character embarrasses Sean Bean's character because he realizes that he's an amateur so this was his way of saving him.
    Great movie! Excellent choice.

  • @marcuscato9083
    @marcuscato9083 Місяць тому +18

    Another great heist movie: The Taking of Pelham 123 (1974).

    • @clash5j
      @clash5j Місяць тому +8

      I really wish they would react to the 1974 version

    • @marcuscato9083
      @marcuscato9083 Місяць тому +6

      @@clash5j I heard the other one was pretty lame. Absolutely has to be the original. Editing my comment.

    • @clash5j
      @clash5j Місяць тому +4

      @@marcuscato9083 I'm sure their patreons will never vote for it, but I know they would absolutely love it. What a fun gritty NYC heist film!!

    • @marcuscato9083
      @marcuscato9083 Місяць тому +3

      @@clash5j i saw it in a theater as part of a film festival. The crowd absolutely loved it!

    • @ludovicoc7046
      @ludovicoc7046 Місяць тому +4

      @@marcuscato9083 Yes, the remake is awful. The original is a masterclass in how to make an action movie.

  • @troy34bronze
    @troy34bronze Місяць тому +15

    Sean Bean lives!

    • @dnish6673
      @dnish6673 Місяць тому +3

      I think he dies off screen. No loose ends for the Irishman.

  • @antoinettelopes
    @antoinettelopes Місяць тому +7

    It's "Nice" that you're already mastering the dad joke 🤭
    As a Sean Bean fan I did not enjoy him exiting so soon. I also assumed he'd be coming back 🤷🏽‍♀️ Once I got the DVD, I'd just watch it until he left. I pretty much forgot everything else besides Katarina Witt. lol I'm a figure skating fan too.

  • @chefskiss6179
    @chefskiss6179 Місяць тому +15

    Nice one! LOVE that this made it as your poll winner. I hope you 'finish' off the Jean Reno work-for-hire trilogy (tetralogy if you count Mission Impossible). Please have a vote for his 1990 La Femme Nikita. Otherwise, you can never go wrong with Michael Lonsdale (the surgeon/figurine painter) in The Day Of The Jackal.

    • @andrewcrowder4958
      @andrewcrowder4958 Місяць тому +2

      Lonsdale was a class act. RIP.

    • @chefskiss6179
      @chefskiss6179 Місяць тому +2

      @@andrewcrowder4958 So commanding; he just draws you in with his performances, you can't look anywhere else when he's in the shot.

  • @WolfoftheAurora
    @WolfoftheAurora Місяць тому +5

    Talk about unlocking childhood memories! I remember watching only the two car chases and reenacting them with my Hot Wheels cars. It's been left on my parents' DVD shelf and hasn't moved since my time in elementary. I'm going to have to watch this movie in full at some point.

  • @Vanska0
    @Vanska0 Місяць тому +5

    This is probably the last hollywood movie to feature this level of stunts and practical effects in car chases in real locations! Something that's always refreshing to come back to especially nowdays.
    I highly recommend you guys watch another Frankenheimer classic from the 1986 called "52 Pick up", it's a rather dark thriller starring the main guy from jaws himself; Roy Scheider!
    On the same vein, if you want to see another geat aciton thriller featuring one of the best car chase ever put on film, watch "To live and die in L.A" made by late great William Friedkin (the guy who directed the exorcist).

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Місяць тому

      Two great suggestions, adore them both especially the Frankenheimer movie it really is an exciting unsung classic thriller that I'm sure they'd enjoy watching.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Місяць тому

      Beverly Hills Cop 4 and Bad Boys 4 might bring it back.

  • @RussellCHall
    @RussellCHall Місяць тому +4

    If Deniro hasn't been in the intelligence game in this movie his character could have been a pretty good barista, he get a lot done with coffee.

  • @jhilal2385
    @jhilal2385 Місяць тому +4

    The ice skater is real-life Olympic champion Ekaterina Witt

  • @Drizzl1335
    @Drizzl1335 Місяць тому +14

    This was the movie that introduced me to the Audi S8!😅😅😅😅

    • @jasonm8017
      @jasonm8017 Місяць тому +1

      Me too. Don’t have one yet.

    • @randylevy
      @randylevy Місяць тому +4

      To this day, it's still my ultimate "sleeper" car

    • @whiskeysk
      @whiskeysk Місяць тому +1

      @@jasonm8017 don't forget to replace the original injectors for the custom ones once you get the car :)

    • @prochrgedLT1
      @prochrgedLT1 Місяць тому

      Rather have the Mercedes 6.9😂

  • @toddfuresz462
    @toddfuresz462 Місяць тому +7

    I admit the first time I saw this I thought as the movie unfolded, it was just DeNiro getting a free trip to France....but the cast, the direction and screenplay (pumped up by David Mamet) are all top notch. For me it was a wow movie. Now, you say it it ended quickly but recall Sam was there forr Seamus and not the case (great MacGuffin) so once Seamus was dead it was over for Sam. Now there is an alternate ending (you should search it out) where we find out more about Deidre and that scene is cut from the ending (not sure if it was Frankenheimer or the studio who did that) but for understanding of more it would be worth it for both of you to view. Few have reacted to this and I am so glad you both did, well done. And Mrs. Schmitt do watch it again and it will make more sense!

    • @mitchellmelkin4078
      @mitchellmelkin4078 Місяць тому +2

      @toddfuresz462, I agree the contents of the case aren't truly meant to matter to us, but I suspect Sam (and his taskmasters) wanted the 'material' secured just as much as Seamus had to be neutralized.

  • @robertvenegas6113
    @robertvenegas6113 Місяць тому +3

    Skipp Sudduth's driving seriously pushed those Audi's to the limit. They didn't know beforehand that those cars could handle what he'd do.

  • @profshad3429
    @profshad3429 Місяць тому +9

    The guy who helped Vincent when Sam got shot, was the main villian in MoonRaker

  • @crapstirrer
    @crapstirrer Місяць тому +8

    Yep. That's daddy Skarsgard

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 Місяць тому +8

    “NICE “!
    Good job, Nice job!
    (Loved at the end , Sam joined the “Nice” )

  • @steffenbause3426
    @steffenbause3426 Місяць тому +4

    The Car Chase Scenes:
    80 Cars crashed (destroyed)
    150 stunt people involved in these scenes
    All stunts - as far as I know - were filmed without CGI
    Great Movie - one of my all time favs.
    Have a good time all of you
    Greetings from Europe 🙂

  • @chadwickvon8019
    @chadwickvon8019 Місяць тому +16

    Let's goooo. I fucking love this movie.

  • @TheSDB13
    @TheSDB13 Місяць тому +3

    The older man who helps remove the bullet also played in another great thriller made in the 70's called "The Day of the Jackel" that I highly reccomend

  • @frozen1762
    @frozen1762 Місяць тому +9

    This move was last of its kind. "Realistic" spy thriller. It used to be a genre but unfortunately, its long gone. If you have a spy movie today, it's just a generic over the top action movie like a superhero movie.

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Місяць тому +1

      That's sadly the case, yes. In many ways, we saw the last great decade in films with the '90s.

    • @Yora21
      @Yora21 Місяць тому

      It's the post-spy thriller.

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 Місяць тому +7

    CAR CHASE =
    “BULLIT”’
    With Steve Mc Queen,
    that was one of the first car chases !! San Francisco, down Lombard Street!!

  • @jeffgray7922
    @jeffgray7922 Місяць тому +4

    Bean: "You worried about saving your own skin?" Deniro: "Yeah, I am. It covers my body." Best line ever. Also, this is the first "McGuffin" I can remember being in a movie. I used to own this on VHS way back when it came out. Definitely an underappreciated movie.

    • @prochrgedLT1
      @prochrgedLT1 Місяць тому

      Pulp Fiction has another classic case of a McGuffin. You never find out what's in Marcellus' briefcase.

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski Місяць тому +12

    29:15 "damn. guy was driving a pinto." -daniel
    🔥💥

    • @KaterChris
      @KaterChris Місяць тому +1

      That scene was filmed in the same tunnel where Princess Diana got fatally injured in that car wreck...I even read somewhere they were holding the movie release back a little because it happened after filming.

  • @xyonmckell
    @xyonmckell Місяць тому +2

    Love this movie. Small detail: they didn't use the map when the cops came by because local cops might have presumably stopped to give them directions/ask if they needed assistance. Every little thing in the movie is thought out several levels deep.

  • @sirpurrsalot6588
    @sirpurrsalot6588 Місяць тому +2

    The car chases in Ronin are to this day one of the most elaborate ever put on film. They even build cars with hidden stuntdrivers so that during the chases the actors were still behind the weel. These days the insurance companys would never allow such anymore. There is a very interesting doku on youtube about planing and making the chases happen.

  • @r21174
    @r21174 Місяць тому +5

    ive seen this movie over 50 times, its a classic. In top 20 of mine...

  • @shakawhenthewallsfell8570
    @shakawhenthewallsfell8570 Місяць тому +7

    One of my favorite movies. All the performances are top notch.
    For another fantastic De Niro heist movie I recommend "The Score" along with Ed Norton and Marlon Brando.

    • @Ernwaldo
      @Ernwaldo Місяць тому +3

      Completely agree on The Score. Few people I mention it to have ever heard of it. Almost as good as Ronin, but DeNiro & Norton turn in some tour de force performances. 👍🏻

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Місяць тому +1

      Yes, they're very different in story but so equally good heist movies.

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 Місяць тому +4

    Love how you asked Sam how’d you like it and she said “I don’t know?!”

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski Місяць тому +7

    14:02 "did she see some cops?" -daniel ☺️

    • @chefskiss6179
      @chefskiss6179 Місяць тому +3

      It's great when you watch it again... you see her touching her lips, contemplating the moment, realizing they may be there a while, he's also not that bad... and alley-yoop get's on top of him, lol.

  • @davidfausel9029
    @davidfausel9029 Місяць тому +8

    Besides the amazing cast, you get the dialogue from the master David Mamet (under a pseudonym). One of the things I love is that it does not explain everything to you. It presents you with just enough information and you either absorb it or do you do not. SO glad to see you guys do this one. This is truly one of DeNiro's last stone cold classics.

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Місяць тому

      Mamet finally directed his own lesser heist flick later, 2001's Heist with Gene Hackman but it's nowhere as good as this film. Interestingly enough, De Niro himself later on made a heist movie called Heist (2015) which is even worse... He made quite a few of these, the overrated Heat (1995) and the underrated The Score (2001).

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 Місяць тому

      ​@@LarryFleetwood8675Nah. Heat is not overrated. It's really one of the greats.

  • @Ernwaldo
    @Ernwaldo Місяць тому +5

    Hi, guys. I usually just “lurk,” but had to thank you for watching a film that almost no one reacts to that is also one of my favorites.
    Nice 😊

  • @defunctus408
    @defunctus408 Місяць тому +4

    Consider reacting to the 1970 Clint Eastwood heist film "Kelly's Heroes" where a group of U.S. soldiers sneaks across enemy lines to get their hands on a secret stash of Nazi treasure.

    • @AtlatlMan
      @AtlatlMan Місяць тому +3

      Agreed. Kelley's Heroes is excellent.

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 Місяць тому +2

      Yes, such a classic war comedy/caper... 💰

  • @o0pinkdino0o
    @o0pinkdino0o Місяць тому +2

    Sam is not his real name. He is playing as Uncle Sam.
    Such an underrated gem ! The best car chase in cinema (the behind the scenes footage is incredible). And wonderful Michael Lonsdale !! What a cast.
    Best heist movies - Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels - Guy Ritchie with Jason Statham and Vinny Jones putting themselves on the cinematic map. So so British, eternally quotable and really funny.
    Also Baby Driver, Point Break, Jackie Brown, Gone in 60 Seconds, Cliffhanger and Swordfish just for how bonkers it is and how hacking really is not done !

  • @jdelark6428
    @jdelark6428 Місяць тому +6

    A good choice, quite an understated film in some ways, and not your usual action flick. I remember seeing this at the cinema when it came out, and my friends were a bit perplexed by the philosophical bits and the subtle-spycraft actions by Robert De Niro's character.
    Great character casting too.

  • @johnmason9655
    @johnmason9655 Місяць тому +3

    The man in the wheelchair reference is from the Bourne Identity series. His name is Chernak, a mercenary, who Jason Bourne kills.

  • @R1ch4rd74
    @R1ch4rd74 Місяць тому +6

    we have watched this movie several times. i think in the end it was never about the case, the case was a way to draw out the guy, the terrorist. and it worked. so in a way mission accomplished. as for the case? we will never know. like another Vincent in another movie with a case called pulp fiction. i am so glad you guys got to watch this movie. it took us a few times to watch this movie to get the plot. thank you.

  • @R1ch4rd74
    @R1ch4rd74 Місяць тому +7

    there is a heist movie titled just that HEIST with Gene Hackman, Danny DeVito, Delroy Lindo, Sam Rockwell, Rebecca Pidgeon, Ricky Jay, Patti LuPone. it is REALLY good.

  • @troy34bronze
    @troy34bronze Місяць тому +5

    It won our ha… hi… heist poll. 😂

  • @jhilal2385
    @jhilal2385 Місяць тому +5

    Add to your heist watch list:
    "Where Eagles Dare" (1968)
    "Kelly's Heroes" (1970)
    "The Peacemaker" (1997)
    "The Ladykillers" (2004 remake)
    "Payback" (1999)
    "Out of Sight" (1998)
    "Parker" (2013)
    "Chaos" (2005)

    • @faroldmatthews5833
      @faroldmatthews5833 Місяць тому

      Don’t forget The Jackle

    • @KaterChris
      @KaterChris Місяць тому

      @@faroldmatthews5833 If you mean "The Day Of The Jackal", PLEASE watch the 1973 original with Edward Fox and Michael Lonsdale (the model samurai guy from "Ronin"), not that 1997 Bruce Willis/Richard Gere abomination

    • @KaterChris
      @KaterChris Місяць тому

      Yes for "The Peacemaker" and "Out of Sight"! Peacemaker is a nice, often overlooked old school thriller movie with George Clooney at the start of his movie career and a great Nicole Kidman (first ever movie to be released by DreamWorks). "Out of Sight" is a Soderbergh classic, the chemistry and sexual tension between Clooney and Jennifer Lopez in this is off the scale!

    • @ry8102
      @ry8102 Місяць тому

      And “Malcolm” 1986

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski Місяць тому +5

    16:03 "oh nooo! the fruit man." -sam
    😮😆

  • @amata415
    @amata415 Місяць тому +2

    I love this movie! Thriller, espionage, and action all rolled into one! Plus De Niro’s snappy dialogue.

  • @book5ter
    @book5ter Місяць тому +2

    What is a klick?
    A Klick is millitary jargon for one Kilometer. About 0.62 of a mile.
    The figur scater is portraied by Katarina Witt; she holds 2 olympic gold medals and 4 world championship titles to her name.

  • @susanliltz3875
    @susanliltz3875 Місяць тому +8

    Sure Wish You Would Watch
    “AWAKENING “
    with Robert DeNiro and Robin Williams.
    Beautiful movie, totally different role for both of them!!

    • @ry8102
      @ry8102 Місяць тому

      Agreed these guys will love it

  • @jabbott4506
    @jabbott4506 Місяць тому +2

    That’s awesome you guys checked this one out! Such a great flick!

  • @Bensonders
    @Bensonders Місяць тому +2

    Aw great!!! I didn't see this weeks community post, so this was the absolute surprise!!
    I love this movie, saw it when it first came out! Great action and all these shades of grey that keep you guessing!
    I should stop writing and enjoy your reaction!!!

  • @stimbeh
    @stimbeh Місяць тому +4

    Thank you for doing this! It's not a Hollywood movie., but I love it. The cast, the writing with red herrings and random notations. The cinematography is so lovely.
    This movie and Pulp Fiction: What's in the briefcase?

  • @-REMOwilliams
    @-REMOwilliams Місяць тому +2

    It was fun to watch your reaction. You experienced it the way I did. Sam's character was so smart and calculating he was always assessing everything happening around him. Sam & Vincent did have good chemistry you're rooting for both of them. Peter Yates Director of "Bullitt" shocked the world with his car chase scene. This Director, John Frankenheimer attempted to top it in "Ronin" maybe he did...

  • @OneAndOnlyMe
    @OneAndOnlyMe Місяць тому +1

    During the car chase, the second tunnel they enter is the one Princess Diana was killed in. Diana's car also hit those center columns.

  • @Lillywhite
    @Lillywhite Місяць тому +4

    Banger movie. A personal favourite.

  • @cshubs
    @cshubs Місяць тому +7

    Please let me suggest Bullitt, a Steve McQueen classic. It's pretty sick!

    • @AbeVicious
      @AbeVicious Місяць тому +1

      French Connection, too.

  • @watsonsd1
    @watsonsd1 Місяць тому

    I LOVED this film primarily for its subtleties. The way Sam scopes out the bar by looking at the menu, opens the wrong door when "looking" for the bathroom to prepare a quick exit, secures his gun outside so he has plausible deniability if this is a setup. Nothing flashy. Such a contrast with the typical spy movie. He's the veteran of a thousand such missions. I love how he smelled out Bean's virginity from the outset and ambushed him with a cup of coffee when he got tired of him trying to make decisions. Brilliant film. The ronin story was the icing on the cake since Sam poured out his contempt for those who served masters while he served a greater master all along.

  • @bamboosho0t
    @bamboosho0t Місяць тому +1

    As a car guy I LOVED this movie. After 'Jackie Chan: Who am I' this was the 2nd DVD I ever purchased. Sean Bean, Stellan Skarsgård, Jean Reno, Bob DiNiro, Natascha McElhone. Awesome!

  • @philmakris8507
    @philmakris8507 Місяць тому +3

    The old man's monalougue explains the theme.

  • @ErrisSq
    @ErrisSq Місяць тому +1

    It was around the time of the Northern Ireland Peace Process. The reason for targeting Seamus is he was a hardliner who was a roadblock to the peace being successful.
    Seamus was on the run and needed Deirdre to run the operation. He wanted the case to increase his standing, he hadn't got the money to pay the team, so he was always going to double cross them.
    Fun Fact: the Merc was the directors own car.
    Also there were deleted scenes for the ending where Deirdre does return to the cafe and gets abducted by Seamus's associates for double crossing him.

  • @reservoirdude92
    @reservoirdude92 Місяць тому +10

    John Frankenheimer was a maverick, one of my favorite American directors. The cinematography and shot composition in this is some of my favorite in any film EVER.
    Be sure to check out his other work like The Train, Seconds, and Birdman of Alcatraz.

    • @ludovicoc7046
      @ludovicoc7046 Місяць тому +2

      Don't forget "Black Sunday"--the shootout in South Beach is a textbook example of how to shoot an action scene.

    • @reservoirdude92
      @reservoirdude92 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ludovicoc7046I haven't seen that yet! I watched Grand Prix yet haven't watched Black Sunday! Gotta change that soon.

    • @reservoirdude92
      @reservoirdude92 Місяць тому +1

      @@ludovicoc7046 Frankenheimer really knew how to shoot a film. The man always had an interesting vision.

    • @WilliamHesse
      @WilliamHesse Місяць тому +1

      32 years before Ronin, he filmed car racing using actual F1 racers in his film "Grand Prix".

    • @jesseowenvillamor6348
      @jesseowenvillamor6348 Місяць тому +1

      The French Connection 2

  • @GentleGiantJason
    @GentleGiantJason Місяць тому +2

    The movie is called Ronin because it’s post Cold War Europe and all these former spies are without a job (masterless spies). They are taking whatever work they can get using the skills they have.

  • @joshchu
    @joshchu Місяць тому +2

    One of the most interesting fan theory I've heard is the case contains the printing plate for the euro.

  • @KURUZU43
    @KURUZU43 Місяць тому +5

    What a great choice you guys! This is a fantastic movie they don't make them like this anymore.

  • @utcnc7mm
    @utcnc7mm Місяць тому +5

    Hope they do "A Fish Called Wanda" soon its a classic

  • @WilliamTheMovieFan
    @WilliamTheMovieFan Місяць тому +1

    One of the best action movies ever made! Great casting, great characters, great writing, great directing, great camera work, and fantastic action sequences!

  • @candice44
    @candice44 Місяць тому +1

    I also 100% say “NICE” out loud when they show the title card for Nice :)

  • @orlandoruizjr3834
    @orlandoruizjr3834 Місяць тому +1

    I remember seeing this in the theater with my dad. We had a great time. We walked out so satisfied. The action scenes are incredible.

  • @YoureMrLebowski
    @YoureMrLebowski Місяць тому +3

    23:16 "oh sorry." -daniel
    😆

  • @Rollotomassi099
    @Rollotomassi099 Місяць тому +1

    The SCORE with Deniro Ed Norton and Brando, directed by Yoda should be next on your Heist movie list

  • @aussiebladerunner
    @aussiebladerunner Місяць тому +1

    A classic macguffin tale where the central motivation is all about a thing that is never revealed what it is. De Nero and Reno have great chemistry. You should check out the behind the scenes of the car chases where the stunt driver drives from the trunk or the passenger side for close ups but really driving at high speed.