2024 Libertadores Final: A Hollywood-Worthy Masterpiece

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  • @GustavoFil350
    @GustavoFil350 Місяць тому +61

    "It sucks to see how badly he's fallen off throughout the years"
    Saying that about Telles either shows ignorance or arrogance. Since leaving Porto Telles spent 2 seasons on a bigger club in United (which has been a shitshow), won an Europa League for Sevilla, played a World Cup for Brazil, won a shit ton of money on Cristiano Ronaldo's Al Nassr then went to a big brazilian club and won the biggest trophy on the continent. That's why he was crying, it's one of the biggest moments of his career.
    Some people might have expected higher heights for him but since leaving Porto his career absolutely has not "badly fallen off". It's crazy how Portuguese people look down on South American football like it's beneath them, just because they play on Europe when in reality portuguese football is a second tier league of the continent.

    • @sandeabo
      @sandeabo Місяць тому +7

      Nailed it.

    • @gustavomenoncin4258
      @gustavomenoncin4258 Місяць тому +21

      Vou falar em português msm kkkk
      Cara, fiquei de cara com o maluco aí falando "Isso é a forma mais pura e mais crua do futebol. Sem estratégias elaboradas, sem medo e com muito caos". O cara olha MUITO de cima pra baixo quando ta falando do Brasil. Só ver o que o Artur Jorge fez nessa partida e o que o Milito não fez. Isso é tática, todo mundo está dizendo que o Galo perdeu também na tática. Como assim "uma liga sem tática"? Fiquei bravo com isso kkkkkk
      E o cara falando que o Botafogo gamhar a libertadores não significa nada pros times tipo Palmeiras e Flamengo. Cara, o time ta brigando com os dois, esse ano ganhou dos dois no Brasileirão, como não muda nada? Esse cara finge que o Brasil é só caos e ainda quer dar uma de fã como se fosse um pai cuidando dos filhos...

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому +3

      @@GustavoFil350 I get what you're saying but you're assuming that my intentions was to look down on Brazilian football and that's wrong.
      Telles was the best left back in the Portuguese league for four years. He was even better than Grimaldo.
      And now the former Benfica player is playing a huge role in one of the best playing sides in the world while Telles flopped with Man.U, was average with Sevilla and let go by Al-Nassr to accommodate other foreign stars.
      That's falling off and it has nothing to do with playing in Brazil

    • @vniciuis
      @vniciuis Місяць тому +9

      @@gustavomenoncin4258 Porra, eu acho muito maneiro esses canais gringos falarem daqui. Beleza. Mas tem que pesquisar direito antes. Teve um canal desses que teve a coragem de falar que se sair no Rio vc acha mais camisa do Chelsea e Barcelona do que de Vasco e Fluminense.

    • @Vnbrtl
      @Vnbrtl Місяць тому +1

      @@ThroneFC Telles’ signing with Botafogo was a smart and bold move for both sides. Botafogo managed to snatch an experienced talent that surely still had a bit of market left in Europe - definitely not on the Top Tier teams, but he is still in great form to play in Spain, France, or even in a lower tier Premier League team. And Telles managed to join a solid football project that is reviving one of the most historical jerseys in Brazil, allowing him to get more spotlight just two years before the next World Cup (at a time that Brazil’s National Squad is struggling to perform), while still keeping ties with Europe through the link with Lyon (even tho playing for Botafogo is a more prestigious opportunity, not to mention the WCC happening next June, Lyon is a valuable bridge for the Eagle football project for ambitious players like him).

  • @petergohan
    @petergohan Місяць тому +39

    This is only the beggining, as we're saying here in Brazil: "This is the wrost Botafogo squad, of the next 10 years."
    Only 3 years of a professional administration, with scouting, data analysis, money spent carefully and not just to show off, not to mention the Everest amount of pressure that this title we got off our shoulders.
    In the next 15~20 years we'll go back to our spot as one of the main forces in brazilian football, we just needed some serious and competent people behind the scenes.

  • @mariareginalealguedes6643
    @mariareginalealguedes6643 Місяць тому +63

    Meu Botafogo❤ de Garrincha, ,Nilton Santos, Diamante negro, Didi, Jairzinho e Zagallo. Muito merecido.

    • @avila6425
      @avila6425 Місяць тому +1

      🔥🔥

    • @ZoologiacomJP
      @ZoologiacomJP Місяць тому +5

      Reescrevemos a história! Hoje também é o botafogo do almada, luiz henrique, marlon freitas, john, adryelson

    • @regissousa3661
      @regissousa3661 Місяць тому +3

      Túlio Maravilha não pode ser esquecido.

    • @BotafoguenseJaperiense
      @BotafoguenseJaperiense Місяць тому +1

      e atualmente Luiz Henrique

  • @tomazlimapersonal
    @tomazlimapersonal 25 днів тому +4

    Yes!! Lets talk about Remo vs Paysandu.
    The biggest derby in the world, being the derby with the most games played in history!

  • @ocanaldubiel-hgpvpemuitoma9600
    @ocanaldubiel-hgpvpemuitoma9600 24 дні тому +4

    Da-lhe da-lhe Fogooooo!!!
    They used to say we were "the smaller among the biggest", but now we are proving this was never the case. The club that gave Brazil 3 WC will NEVER be the smaller among the biggest. And prepare yourselves, because this is just the beginning. In no more than 5 years we will be putting our hands on a Intercontinental Cup trophy right in the first final we manage to play, something that Palmeiras, Flamengo and Fluminense couldn't do when they were in the finals. The last time a south american club won a Fifa Club World Cup / Intercontinental Cup was in 2012, so when we do it it will be another great feat by the Glorioso 🔥

    • @gcr3342
      @gcr3342 24 дні тому

      The dark times are over. Just like a Phoenix we are reborn 🔥

  • @celiopessoajunior
    @celiopessoajunior Місяць тому +17

    A bit of history: Botafogo is directly responsible ( alongside with Santos) for Brazil wining the first 3 world Cups. Players like Garrincha, Nilton Santos, Didi, Jairzinho, all came from botafogo.

  • @VictorHammers
    @VictorHammers Місяць тому +19

    It’s simple. Libertadores matters more to South American clubs and its fans than anything in European Competitions. ‘Libertadores es mi obsecion’ is a song which talks exactly about that. A high level of emotion is expected.

  • @naondadosgames8241
    @naondadosgames8241 25 днів тому +4

    I'm a Fortaleza fan and I'm totally in for a video about Remo. They are our brothers and some of our executives left our club and headed to Remo in the beginning of this year to try to repeat with them what they made with Fortaleza. I really hope Remo gains the recognition it deserves and I trust a lot those professionals who left Fortaleza to help them are very capable of doing that, specially with how large their fanbase is. They're easily over a million remistas out there. I've met some in multiple states from the Northeast to the South and there's quite a few of them here in Fortaleza as well (and their rival also has a big fanbase but I don't like them). I hope to see Remo in 2026's Série A 🦁

    • @tufab3494
      @tufab3494 24 дні тому

      Dá-lhe Laion 🦁

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому +1

      Done! Go watch it my friend 🔥

    • @tufab3494
      @tufab3494 12 днів тому

      @@ThroneFC desculpa a demora pra ver mano. Muito obrigado mesmo. Já agradeci algumas vezes em outros comentários mas nunca é demais kkk Tmj e abraço

  • @naosei3392
    @naosei3392 25 днів тому +3

    I'm a Botafogo fan but I support you making a video about Remo and Paysandu. Fantastic fans and intense classic 👍👍

    • @filipevaz9363
      @filipevaz9363 25 днів тому

      Também sou botafoguense e apoio. Eu mesmo conheço pouco a respeito mas sei que é o jogo mais disputado do mundo e parece que os 2 times tem uma boa torcida, vai ser top ver os 2 na Série B ano que vem

  • @caiovelp
    @caiovelp Місяць тому +9

    You actually answered your own question at the end.
    In Europe, most of the time, the team that’s expected to win does win. But in South America, that’s often not the case. The Brazilian League is one of the most competitive in the world, and almost every final has a story that makes it even more exciting. For example, Botafogo reaching the Libertadores Final for the first time after 2023 was historic. Coming back from being a man down to win the game is incredibly emotional and hard to manage.
    On Atlético’s side, they were under immense pressure, having already lost one final and now facing the possibility of losing a second one despite having a man advantage. Brazilian journalists would definitely criticize them heavily for this. There’s just so much at stake and so many factors involved-it’s hard to put into words.

  • @eo3310
    @eo3310 25 днів тому +3

    11:18 PLEASE make a video about the RePa!!! This derby is so freaking underrated it ain't even funny how little attention it gets in comparison to how intense it is. Like bro, over 770 matches!? How on earth the match between 2 clubs that has most repeated itself in the history of the sport is so forgotten? It being an amazonian derby doesn't help them, but anyways it is so underrated it really would make good use of outside recognition!

  • @filipevaz9363
    @filipevaz9363 25 днів тому +2

    Vamos Fogoooooooooo!!! Torcedores de outros clubes vão ter que aguentar a soberba sim, somos gigantes 🔥🔥🔥

  • @sandeabo
    @sandeabo Місяць тому +21

    You sounded like the match didn’t had any tactics, only heart and passion which is a cliché and not actually true. For a Team to win over another with 10 players on the pitch the whole match, passion alone is not enough. Even though Atlético had a few oportunities, Botafogo dominated them for the simple fact they are the best Team in the Americas. A Team that plays with discipline, intensity and, obviously, tactics and strategy. And we cry on the pitch because our hearts are beating and our blood is hot and we, Latin Americans, are not affraid of let it show.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому +3

      @@sandeabo I get what you're saying. Maybe I didn't explain myself well.
      I did mention that Botafogo remained cohesive and that their strategy to hold down Atlético Mineiro worked.
      It wasn't passion alone, but the match had a much more intense pace than what you usually see in Europe and that's a good thing.

  • @RemistaAzulino
    @RemistaAzulino 25 днів тому +3

    Por favor, faça o vídeo do Re-pa! Ambos os clubes são enormes e têm histórias riquíssimas, além de serem os 2 maiores clubes de toda a Amazônia com torcidas que ultrapassam 1 milhão de pessoas cada uma. O mundo merece conhecer esse classico
    O Remo já até recebeu o Benfica de Eusébio e Torres aqui no Baenão em 1968, jogo esse que terminou empatado em 1x1 com o gol do Benfica sendo marcado pelo Torres. E aquele elenco foi simplesmente FINALISTA DA CHAMPIONS naquele ano. Tem até uma foto do Eusébio com a camisa do Remo na sala de troféus do clube, junto com uma foto do Pelé também com a camisa do Remo, mas essa do Pelé foi em 65. Obviamente nenhum dos 2 foi atleta do Remo, mas é uma honra pra gente ter recebido o Benfica de Eusébio (e não ter perdido) e possuir essa foto dele vestindo nossa camisa, assim como a foto do Pelé entrando em campo com nossa camisa durante o amistoso que rolou em Belém em 65, no qual reza a lenda que o Rei jogou metade do do jogo com a camisa do Leão de Antônio Baena 🦁💙 O Remo também venceu o Torneio Internacional de Caracas em 1950, que deu origem 2 anos depois ao Mundialito de Clubes que ja foi conquistado por grandes times como Barcelona e Real Madrid. Esse nosso titulo foi amador e com times locais e um amistoso com um combinado espanhol, mas foi um sucesso tão grande lá na Venezuela que deu origem a profissionalização do futebol no país e criação do Mundialito / Pequena Taça do Mundo que ai sim teve participação de grandes clubes do futebol mundial. Se não fosse o Remo, talvez esse torneio nunca tivesse sequer surgido e a FIFA fosse demorar mais ainda pra criar o Mundial FIFA que passaria a valer como titulo reconhecido oficialmente e não so um torneio de verão como era antes. O Remo ja foi muito grande, infelizmente más gestões afundaram o clube, mas em 2025 estaremos na Série B e se Deus quiser estaremos de volta na Série A em 2026!

  • @marktheshark7588
    @marktheshark7588 Місяць тому +45

    Throne you called Botafogo the Spurs of the Brazilian league.But I see them as the Arsenal of the Brazilian league.But this final was really crazy.This final made me become a fan of the Brazilian league.

    • @tonizinn
      @tonizinn Місяць тому +1

      Enquanto o Arsenal chegava em finais europeias, disputava títulos todo ano, o Botafogo tava na Série B.

    • @GustavoFil350
      @GustavoFil350 Місяць тому +16

      Botafogo ficou 1 ano na serie B na ultima década e o Arsenal certamente não disputou titulos todo ano nesse período inteiro. E agora o Botafogo é campeão continental e o Arsenal ainda não@@tonizinn

    • @Juggryph
      @Juggryph Місяць тому

      ​@@tonizinne o arsenal era vice em todas as competições enquanto o botafogo foi campeão na primeira final que chegou 😂😂😂

    • @henryoliver123-h7b
      @henryoliver123-h7b Місяць тому +6

      Spurs don't have champions league, 👍

    • @henryoliver123-h7b
      @henryoliver123-h7b Місяць тому +1

      ​@@tonizinno Botafogo pipocou mas ganhou título continental, o arsenal pipocou e até agora nada 👍

  • @TheBiel188
    @TheBiel188 25 днів тому +2

    yes yes yes plz do a video about Remo x paysandu it's easy the biggest derby in the world it needs more people seeing it 🦁🦁🦁💙💙💙

  • @alanabazia8770
    @alanabazia8770 25 днів тому +2

    A video about Re-pa, please !!

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому

      Done! Go watch it my friend 🔥

  • @BotafoguenseJaperiense
    @BotafoguenseJaperiense Місяць тому +1

    Bota Fogo é o time mais tradicional do brasil, respeita todas as torcidas e chegou onde chegou com muita garra. amo meu time e nunca deixei mesmo nos momentos difícil e hoje posso comemorar honestamente...

  • @pedrofarias478
    @pedrofarias478 Місяць тому +24

    If Botafogo played Porto today, Botafogo would win 4 x 0. The Brasileirao is a WAY better league than Portugal’s. You cannot talk about the football of South America like we are underdeveloped, that is just not true.
    Go look at Fifa Rankings, brasileirao is the 6º best league in the world behing the 5 (it should be higher than Ligue 1)
    Every single big 12 club in brazil would fight for the Portugal league title w benfica and porto. Show more respect than saying we are clubs that don’t have tactics and play only with heart. Botafogo did not win only because of heart. Look at the defensive scheme of artur jorge with a man down. The double teams on Hulk, having Marlon build a 5 man defensive line aleeady being down one defensive mindfielder is genius and required sacrifices from Savarino, LH and Almada. Genius. Smart.
    Brazil is not underdeveloped like you suggest in the video. If Porto played in Brazil it would struggle to qualify for the Libertadores, let alone win anything.
    Show more respect.

    • @AussieBenfica-tw3yz
      @AussieBenfica-tw3yz Місяць тому

      Porto just copped 4 to a team below them in the Portuguese league if the best team in South American champions couldn’t do similar that would be embarrassing, especially since this is the worst Porto team in years. They lost to Bodo/Gilmt

    • @fredericoboghossiantorres5877
      @fredericoboghossiantorres5877 Місяць тому

      Esse vídeo é uma merda. Gringo arrogante desmerecendo o Brasil e o Botafogo em toda ocasião. Lixo.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@pedrofarias478 I don't think Porto is a good example. Benfica is probably the best team after Amorim left Sporting, either way I think you're seriously underestimating portuguese teams.
      Obviously if Porto played in Brazil they would struggle, it's a different climate, different altitudes and different playing style.
      But I doubt Botafogo would crack top 3 in Portugal

  • @plansh0332
    @plansh0332 Місяць тому +16

    He said “libertadores” like “libertadorex” because of the Rio accent lol kkkkkkkkk

    • @arknat
      @arknat Місяць тому +6

      portugal

    • @marciocattini12
      @marciocattini12 Місяць тому +2

      Portuguese accent, and his gf is Portuguese, while he might have learned the language I'm assuming he's not from Portugal am I right?

    • @igormonteiro9779
      @igormonteiro9779 Місяць тому +2

      Lol this man is from xique-xique Bahia

    • @nunkatsu
      @nunkatsu Місяць тому +1

      Os gringos vão ver que você escreveu "libertadorex" e ler "libertadorecs", o x não tem som de sh em inglês

  • @miloshower3618
    @miloshower3618 25 днів тому +2

    11:18 man, can you do a video about the rivalry Remo vs Paysandu of Belém, Pará, Brazil?
    That is one of greatness rivalrys of the world, is the rivalry that have more matches in Brazil, 775 matches, have more matches than so many rivalrys like Corinthians vs Palmeiras or Gremio vs Internacional
    And the fans of Remo and Paysandu are very fanatic, very crazyness, in the second, third and four/last division that fans fill the stadiums, breaking public records of the brazilian and south american soccer. Mainly the fans the Remo do that, the Remo have the most public records, some times the average public of Remo matches is bigger than first division matches, it's no wonder that it's a cultural heritage of the Pará state. And the stadiums of them are very close, just some 200 meters of distance

  • @iliyaehrenburg2374
    @iliyaehrenburg2374 Місяць тому +23

    Caro produtor de conteúdo gringo...
    O Botafogo é um clube tradicional do Brasil. É citado como o clube que transformou a forma de se jogar futebol no Brasil. Foi a base das seleções brasileiras dos anos de 1958, 1962 e 1970. Estas seleções foram campeãs!
    Observe a lista de jogadores que foram ídolos no clube: Heleno de Freitas, Garrincha, Nilton Santos, Didi, Amarildo, Zagallo, Gérson, Jairzinho, Paulo César Caju, Mendonça, Túlio, Loco Abreu... Seedorf.
    Você precisa fazer pesquisas mais profundas sobre este clube.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому +4

      @@iliyaehrenburg2374 Eu conheço sumariamente a história do Botafogo e vou fazer uma pesquisa mais aprofundada para o vídeo mais em detalhe que vou lançar sobre o clube na próxima semana.
      Mas como este vídeo era apenas sobre a final da Libertadores, decidi ser mais direto.
      De qualquer forma aprecio o feedback 🙏

  • @lucascaique3844
    @lucascaique3844 25 днів тому +2

    please make a video about Re-Pa

  • @bernardoblanco518
    @bernardoblanco518 25 днів тому +2

    Please, make a vídeo about Re - Pa

  • @fabio-rosas
    @fabio-rosas Місяць тому +13

    Calling yourself a fan of football and not knowing shit about Brazilian football and Botafogo history, is a bit embarrassing.
    Study more before repeating this bunch of crap.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому +1

      @@fabio-rosas Did you watch my video about the Brasileirão and Fortaleza?
      This video wasn't supposed to be a deep dive on Botafogo's history but instead my own take on this year's final.
      Either way, I appreciate your feedback and I'm looking forward to engaging with you in other videos that I make about Brazilian football 🙏

    • @robsonchaves-tt1xp
      @robsonchaves-tt1xp Місяць тому

      Cala a boca mano, dane-se a história do Botafogo.

  • @jlsantiago1008
    @jlsantiago1008 Місяць тому +7

    I’ll watch every single video about Brazilian football. It’s amazing

  • @davisantana6183
    @davisantana6183 Місяць тому +1

    Mate, the ivestidor of botafogo, John Textor, is a guy that is ALWAYS at the stands supporting botafogo, he spends the day on social media to learn what he fan are writing about Botafogo. Some say that he even signed up Thiago Almada due to a fan recommendation on Twitter. He might be some goofy usa guy, but he ain't cold hearted at all.
    And the final took Botafogo a lot of tactics and strategies, since it's a team with offensive dna. Being behind isn't for them, so they had to reinven heir style. The way you said sounded that it was a bad final, with 4 uncommon goals, but it wasn't

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      I didn't say it was a bad final, a Hollywood masterpiece is supposed to be a good thing!

  • @UniãoFlaysandu
    @UniãoFlaysandu Місяць тому +5

    As a Paysandu fan, id love a video about the RExPA rivalry, as it doesnt get nearly the attention it deserves🤷‍♂️

    • @tufab3494
      @tufab3494 24 дні тому

      manda o video pra outros mucurentos comentarem e pedirem a mesma coisa

    • @RemistaAzulino
      @RemistaAzulino 24 дні тому

      Tell to your mucurento friends to ask Throne to make it!

  • @quickspeeder4947
    @quickspeeder4947 Місяць тому +3

    As a Brazilian who also watched this game as a neutral, I can tell you its very likely the players were crying because of how important the title was to both sides, Galo has had a very difficult season and their fans nearly destroyed their own stadium when they lost to Flamengo (club im a supporter of) in the cup, while Botafogo of course, was in a very important week where they had to win this game, and then play a tough match at Inter to possibly seal the League aswell and a loss here would not only start the whole "bottler" agenda in the media but also demoralize the fans and players for a crucial last 2 games in league, but i also believe we of south america care alot for our own football, especially us Brazilians and winning such a difficult title isn't something that happens every day. Great video, i hope our teams can face eachother on the club world cup, who knows?

  • @leamesquita3185
    @leamesquita3185 25 днів тому +2

    Please please make a video about RexPa

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому

      Done! Go watch it my friend 🔥

  • @ecogolfsierra
    @ecogolfsierra Місяць тому +3

    please make more videos about south american football. to me it is very interesting to hear europeans opinion about the way we play football here. greetings from paraguay

  • @ocanaldubiel-hgpvpemuitoma9600
    @ocanaldubiel-hgpvpemuitoma9600 24 дні тому +1

    And wow 11:23 I never expected a foreigner to know about this derby. I know little to nothing about their individual histories, but what I know for a fact is that Remo and Paysandu gather over 40k people to the stadiums even when they are playing in Série C. Just so you can have an idea, Paysandu had a largest average attendance than SANTOS playing alongside them in Série B this season, and Remo surpassed both in avg attendance even tho they were in Série C and Paysandu and Santos in Série B. If I'm not mistaken Remo had an attendance of over 50.000 people in their last Série C match this year, simply outerworldly for a 3rd division match. 2 massive crowds from our beautiful Amazon that I wish one day I can get to know personally and watch a match of this derby live at the stadium.
    All that said I would love to see a video essay on this subject made by a foreigner. As someone who lives in Rio I have virtually no contact with those clubs. By the way brazilian football loses a lot with their absence from Série A... Nowadays we have small clubs playing there like Red Bull Bragantino and Mirassol, but Remo and Paysandu are the ones who should be there considering how massive their crowds are. Also a honorable mention to Santa Cruz, which is Sport's biggest rival and have a MASSIVE crowd of like 2 MILLION people, but ufortunately lives a simmilar situation to Portuguesa and was even out of the brazilian league this season, playing only the State championship and nothing more... I think Remo was also once in this very same situation but somehow returned to Série B and apparently dreams with being promoted to Série A again. To be completely honest, the first time I saw anything about this club was in 2021 when Botafogo was in Série B and they had just been promoted from Série C. We were champions that year and won over them both in Rio and in their domains, but they beat both Vasco and Cruzeiro twice in that same competition which unfortunately didn't avoid their relegation at the end of the season but gave the rest of Brazil good laughs and jokes about Vasco and Cruzeiro lol But in all honesty, those clubs deserve more recognition, specially among us brazilians who often forget those smaller clubs in favor of the Big 12

    • @gcr3342
      @gcr3342 24 дні тому

      Esse Remo enfrentou a gente na Série B, a camisa era muito bonita, da kappa eu acho

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому

      Done! Go watch it my friend 🔥

  • @SeppukuDoll
    @SeppukuDoll Місяць тому +2

    I think it's important to point out that the coach who brought Botafogo to 47 points in the first half of the championship left the club for a Saudi one in the middle of the campaign. Then they simply couldn't find a worthy successor until Artur Jorge arrived in 2024.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@SeppukuDoll True

  • @Nagitudo
    @Nagitudo Місяць тому +5

    5:37 yes. Vegetti cried after losing to Atlético in the Copa do Brasil for example.

  • @Vnbrtl
    @Vnbrtl Місяць тому +3

    There’s so much potential to tell an interesting story and develop a more in-depth analysis of this particular squad, but you missed so many crucial points just for the sake of sound bites. Just an example: Botafogo in 2023 did 47 points under the command of Luiz Castro, but he suddenly left the club mid-season for a more lucrative contract in the Middle East, and after that, Botafogo changed managers 4 times. That’s unheard of for a team in the lead. Just think if Liverpool lost Klopp mid-season while in the lead, or Guardiola dropped City from night to day. Not even those teams would be able to maintain the lead in a competitive environment. Another aspect of the 2023 Brazilian League is the multiple accusations of match fixing (now being investigated by the Federal Police and Federal Prosecutors), which increased considerably in the second half of the season, and Botafogo was one of the teams impaired in numerous, crucial matches that could have secured the trophy. These details are essential for a realistic storytelling, because if you come to this video without any awareness of what Botafogo went through in 2023, you think its demise is exclusively because of “bad, weak-minded players that fooled their fans for an entire first half of the season” or “unlucky circumstances”. Botafogo 2024 is still composed of half of the squad of 2023, and some 2023 leaders are actually key players in the main lineup for most of this season. So be a bit more curious, and avoid reading exclusively from mainstream sources. Watch the matches, read the tactical analysis, and keep an eye on football politics, otherwise you can unintentionally end up narrating a misguided story. (And just FYI, despite being heavily in-debt for decades, Botafogo led multiple Brazilian Serie As until losing energy due to short squads and bad substitutes for their main players. It led in 2013 for half season, in 2010 for a quarter of the season, and in 2007 for half season since its 1995 Brazilian title. So it wasn’t rare to see Botafogo managing to do well in a few occasions - the issue is always keeping it up with wealthier teams, specially from Sao Paulo).

    • @Vnbrtl
      @Vnbrtl Місяць тому +1

      And btw, maybe the repeated crying is because they put more heart in the game. Maybe that’s why Brazilians have 5 World Cup titles (more than anyone else, despite spending the last 20 years asleep), and Portugal has zero. Maybe you know nothing about football..

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      Just chill dude... You don't have to bring down my country since I didn't bring down yours. In fact, I was fascinated about the things I saw.
      I didn't go into more depth because this video wasn't supposed to be about Botafogo...
      Watch my video about Fortaleza, I'm 100% certain you'll change your mind about my channel.
      I can be casual and I can be informative, there's a time and a place for both

  • @vniciuis
    @vniciuis Місяць тому +7

    If you are to make a future video about it, I'm sure you will research a little more. Botafogo winning Libertadores WILL make huge waves in the brazillian football dinamics, specially regarding investiments and long term planning. Not only Botafogo, but Cruzeiro and City Group owned Bahia are here to stay.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому +1

      @@vniciuis Yep, I got a more in-depth video about Botafogo coming up soon

  • @isaactanner6403
    @isaactanner6403 Місяць тому +3

    Fantastic Doc !! Weres the place to mark hundreds of "thumbs up" ??

  • @VOID9558
    @VOID9558 Місяць тому

    "...In other sports your tradition is always present, honoring the colours of this country and our people. On this road of glories a beam of light, your glorious star enguides you"
    Botafogo is the 2024 BRASILEIRÃO Champions🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @isalopes199
    @isalopes199 Місяць тому +6

    FOOOGO 🖤🤍 MAIOR DO RIO 🖤🤍

    • @avila6425
      @avila6425 Місяць тому

      🔥🔥

    • @ramizielg
      @ramizielg Місяць тому +2

      Maior da América e em breve do mundo

  • @marciocattini12
    @marciocattini12 Місяць тому +2

    I'd love to see you elaborate on why botafogo isn't a powerhouse yet. Which after considering your statement I do agree with you. I'm a botafogo supporter and sometimes I do get a bit emotional. You're basically right about Textor's lack of effort on the other clubs his company eagle football has major or substantial shares. And while he may have been overly passionate about Botafogo, he hasn't given up on his collaborative clube ownership model, instead of having clubs maintained exclusively for providing talents to the parent club hub model. I've heard on a recent interview with one of botafogo's CEO or some other top executive, where he revealed that eagle footballs capital opening on the stock market, and the selling of current shares they own on Crystal Palace, will provide the means to pay off Lyons debt at the very first moment. But they also want to split each clubs management to appointed individuals by the counsel, investors, and shareholders, as a mean to reduce the clubs reliability on John's part as the company's director and sole person making the calls, etc, etc. Basically each appointed manager will be made reliable and take over John's current responsibility o! the clubs they will be appointed for. Also he's reduced share on the ownership of eagle football will allow him to focus solely on botafogo which he took a liking for. So it seems like the right path to take atm. To finish my statement. I think botafogo isn't there yet cause it hasn't finished securing a proper investment and installations for the clubs young players to mature and to become a talent revealing club. So atm their relying solely on our very impressive scout department to balance our clubs investments and make less mistakes when hiring new players or assessing opportunities, getting what our manager wants to keep our team competitive and to meet the clubs budget, buying cheap and hoping to sell high. This is a very risky strategy but it's not the clubs long term strategy, that has been clarified and debated from the beginning. So yeah we're definitely not there yet in terms of having the means to diversify income flows as well as palmeiras or flamengo.

    • @marciocattini12
      @marciocattini12 Місяць тому

      What I do see though and it is why I don't totally agree with your assumptions is that in 3 years with some luck but also some very good management, so far they have been able to deliver on their promises ahead of schedule. These were not goals too ambitious to the point of being impossible deliver nor lacking to they point they'd be way too easy to achieve. So far they have been very clear about their strategy, they have delivered more than promised and they're on their track to accomplish more sooner than expected. So far from my point of view they are actually very established as a top tier team in Brazil, but yeah I can't guarantee that yet, I'm assuming this based on the past 3 seasons where they have grown stronger and better year over year and now have actually won a trophy. I'm feeling very optimistic about future years for sure my brother!

  • @PorDentrodaGrandeGuerraMundial
    @PorDentrodaGrandeGuerraMundial 21 день тому +1

    5:32 é por isso que o futebol sulamericano tem 10 copas do mundo: a entrega, amor, paixão, os caras realmente vivem o futebol. Na europa o único assim é o GOAT Cristiano ronaldo. Se seus conterrâneos de seleção fossem apaixonados como ele portugal já teria uma copa. Broxante às vezes as finais europeias que os jogadores não estão se entregando. é isso.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому +1

      Não foi uma crítica. Foi apenas uma observação. Eu gosto de paixão no futebol

  • @brunoribeiro84
    @brunoribeiro84 Місяць тому +2

    No tactics? No strategy? Based on your accent, I thought you were Portuguese, but you talk about football like an American.

  • @domingosgatomarinsgato6734
    @domingosgatomarinsgato6734 3 дні тому

    It was the best libertadores final😊

  • @regissousa3661
    @regissousa3661 Місяць тому

    Sua análise foi bem detalhada e condizente com o que houve entre o Bota e o Galo. Apenas confundiu Pedrinho com Bernard na hora em que exibiu o thumb dos jogadores do Galo.

  • @CanalBiel188
    @CanalBiel188 24 дні тому

    A video about that rivarly you mentioned would be nice. It's not some small city-exclusive derby, as far as I know that derby divides the entire brazilian amazon or something like that. It's regional and involves a lot of people, besides I've met many fans from both clubs in the state that I live. According to many of them only GreNal creates a more hostile atmosphere, but I can't neither confirm nor deny that because I know very little about the clubs themselves, besides the fun fact that Paysandu have already beaten Boca in La Bombonera 20 years ago

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому

      Done! Go watch it my friend 🔥

  • @_chaeng_
    @_chaeng_ Місяць тому

    Great video

  • @gcr3342
    @gcr3342 24 дні тому

    Although I disagree with many of your points, I can see where you are coming from. But don't worry, Botafogo's bottler and smaller between the big stigma will soon come to an end! Like a Phoenix we are reborn 🔥
    Vamos Fogoooooooooo

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  24 дні тому +1

      @@gcr3342 I'm releasing a more in depth look into Botafogo's rise, fall and rise again this Sunday. It's an unbiased look into their history, I'm sure you'll like it more than this video

    • @gcr3342
      @gcr3342 24 дні тому

      ​@@ThroneFC wow that's nice, I never seen a detailed video about Fogo's history made in english. I just subscribed to you to wait for that video. It's funny bc when we look further into Fogo's history as whole, we can clearly see how it decayed and got a stigma that was never actually true, instead of being that forever small team people try to depict is as being. I think every big club eventually go though a period of crisis and then returns better structured and with more fans than before at some point. People like to hate on us because they are jealous of Botafogo's history with the National Team lmao It's the SeleFogo, não tem jeito 🔥
      and make that video about remo and paysandu too. I knew paysandu because of the time they defeated Boca in Bombonera in Libertadores 2004 I think and knew Remo in 2021 when they played against us for Série B and their jersey caught my attention bc of the very beautiful tone of blue they use, very simmilar to Millwall. Last year I remember they defeated Corinthians 2-0 with their stadium packed with like 30 thousand people I think. Idk if they were in Série C or D last year, but Corinthians was in Série A and playing Libertadores, so it was really funny seeing them losing to remo but at the same time made me discover they have a huge crowd. I remember very little about paysandu in Série A and Libertadores bc I was very small, but I wonder now with 5 Northeastern teams in Série A how those 2 would fit in the place of teams with almost no fans like Red Bull and Mirassol. And I will say even more, there are overestimated rivarlies like Fla-Flu (which is as weak as a derby could be) and many underestimated ones like Fortaleza vs ceará, remo vs paysandu and Santa Cruz vs sport. The only derbies of this kind (state rivarlies) people talk about are from the the Southeast and South (Galo x Cruzeiro, AtleTiba and GreNal mostly) and that is really a shame bc of how many fans those clubs from the upper part of our country have

  • @cicilessa
    @cicilessa День тому

    🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @mukkivenura
    @mukkivenura 28 днів тому

    Botafogo: Manchester United 06/07
    Flamengo: Manchester City 22/23
    Vasco: Galatasaray 18/19
    Fluminense: Barcelona 22/23

  • @rafazepro8656
    @rafazepro8656 Місяць тому

    Brazilian league is on its final round and Atletico Mineiro still has chances of being relegated to the Serie B

  • @darkinfernape0
    @darkinfernape0 14 днів тому

    And Botafogo Won Brazilian League too one week after won libertadores

  • @tufab3494
    @tufab3494 24 дні тому +1

    Poha, eu ja tinha assistido esse video antes mas fui perceber esse finalzinho so agora kkkkkk Espero que você decida fazer. Se fores mesmo, te ajudo com as informações e tudo mais
    E pow, fiquei meio triste com esses titulos do Botafogo... A torcida deles agora cresceu absurdamente DO NADA e tão todos soberbos, como se o time deles não tivesse passado 30 anos sem ganhar nada relevante. Não posso falar muito porque sou remista, mas ainda sim ja to sem paciencia pro tanto de botafoguense que tá surgindo. Eu moro na capital do Brasil e aqui quase não se via botafoguense, ai agora de ano passado pra cá quase todo mundo virou botafoguense kkkkk Na Serie B de 2021 quase não se via eles... Enfim, cada torcida tem seu perfil.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  24 дні тому

      @@tufab3494 Vou fazer, a ideia já teve bastante apoio, mais para o final do mês público esse vídeo 🤙

  • @AhsokaCommander
    @AhsokaCommander 24 дні тому

    11:23 paysanduuuuuuuuuuuuu
    AAAAAAAAUUU it's the Lobo Mau
    Baby I'm gonna prey on you tonighttttt 🐺
    I like Paysandu for the memes and dislike remo for being their rival, but the classic is very good. I want Paysandu in série A, they deserve it just because the memes are funny and the torcida is beautiful

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому

      I just made a video about their incredible rivalry with Remo, I'll see you there!

  • @fredericoboghossiantorres5877
    @fredericoboghossiantorres5877 Місяць тому +2

    Such a disrespectful video. Telles himself considers playing for Botafogo a huge honour, while you say its a sad end to his career. Telles came here and was imediately called back to the NT. We are a very traditional and historical club in Brazil. Botafogo was the foundation of the first 3 world cups Brazil won. Show some respect.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@fredericoboghossiantorres5877 maybe don't get offended with everything you watch online 🤷‍♂️

    • @fredericoboghossiantorres5877
      @fredericoboghossiantorres5877 Місяць тому +1

      @ThroneFC maybe do some research before posting a video about two of the biggest clubs in football history. You clearly underestimate the level of the brazilian league and did not do your homework. Thats why there are so many comments calling you out about it. Its nothing personal, your channel is OK and Im sure you were not ill intended. The result - this time - was very poor.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@fredericoboghossiantorres5877 But that wasn't the purpose of the video. Not everything has to be super informative. If you like those deep dives maybe check out my video about Fortaleza or the Brazilian league, I'm sure you'll find them more interesting.
      I got a video coming up about Botafogo that will also include more info about the club's past and recent history.

  • @BigBangPegasis
    @BigBangPegasis 24 дні тому

    Im not a botafoguense but I'm happy for them 👍 ALso I'm happy atletico mineiro has lost because their crowd is too superb and I'm happy too because patetico paranaense fell to second division because they have a bad crowd too that nobody likes and it will have the atletiba classic in serie B, and repa classic of Pará too. Brazil football today is beautiful with 5 nordestino teams in Brasileirao and 3 teams of the North in second division, i love their crowds they are very simpatic and not like atletico mg and paranaense that no body like

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому

      Well, I just made a video about the Remo vs Paysandu rivalry, go watch it, I'm sure you'll like it🔥

    • @BigBangPegasis
      @BigBangPegasis 10 днів тому

      @@ThroneFC very good vid i just watched and left my like 👍👍👍 keep covering less seen clubs i'm sure people will be interested I to be honest am surprised how you know about this specific classic and why you decided to record this but please do more like it! there is atletiba and sport x santa cruz and fortaleza and ceara and many more classics in Brasil

  • @melinajuraski
    @melinajuraski Місяць тому

    Make a video about Corinthians, their journey from the "almost relegation" to pré-libertadores. 8 wins in a row.

  • @rafaelalexandre6259
    @rafaelalexandre6259 24 дні тому +1

    Come on, you gotta make a Re x pa video ASAP

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  16 днів тому

      Done! Go watch it my friend 🔥

  • @blurZyRlk
    @blurZyRlk Місяць тому +1

    embarrassing script… shoulda spent a little more time analyzing the match before making a video on it
    CAMPEÃO COM 10 EM CAMPO. FOOOOOOGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @occidens6350
    @occidens6350 Місяць тому

    Are you portuguese? I can hear some accent rsrsrs

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@occidens6350 I am! 🇵🇹🤝🇧🇷

  • @yodaov3975
    @yodaov3975 Місяць тому +1

    CALL US BOTTLERS NOW HAHAHAHAHA

  • @aIbanest
    @aIbanest Місяць тому

    Didnt manage to watch with audio because i was shitting but ive been a botafogo fan my whole life and by reading the comments i gotta say im sorry for how my fellow botafoguenses treated you and i hope it doesnt affect your view on this great club

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@aIbanest Why do you Turn off the audio when you're shitting? Do you need to focus?😂

  • @FelipeMarques0809
    @FelipeMarques0809 Місяць тому +4

    You know nothing about football

    • @FelipeMarques0809
      @FelipeMarques0809 Місяць тому +1

      Even Lessa about Brazilian club

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@FelipeMarques0809 Yet, here you are watching one my videos🤷‍♂️

  • @R.a.f.a.e.l.
    @R.a.f.a.e.l. 29 днів тому

    You made a very unsubstantiated observation by the end. Botafogo is now an ASF which owned by Textor and that means tons of money. I don't think Botafogo is slowing down so soon.

  • @DougFagundes
    @DougFagundes Місяць тому

    "Bottler" por causa de uma temporada? Tá de brincadeira???

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      @@DougFagundes They bottled a 13 point lead. 13 points.
      Tell me a bigger bottling story than that.

    • @DougFagundes
      @DougFagundes Місяць тому

      @@ThroneFC Is Liverpool a bottler team? I'll ask you again: to fall just one time is a reason to be a bottler team?? You don't know what happened here.

    • @ThroneFC
      @ThroneFC  Місяць тому

      What do you mean I don't know, I made a video about it last year and I'm preparing another one about this season, stay tuned!

    • @DougFagundes
      @DougFagundes Місяць тому

      @@ThroneFC I love your videos. But I think you're wrong when you say it. I'm waiting for the next video ❤

  • @josephleitao5431
    @josephleitao5431 Місяць тому +3

    Até que em fim o Botafogo ganhou alguma coisa 😅

  • @rokatrevo
    @rokatrevo Місяць тому

    I love this

  • @Gatts7
    @Gatts7 Місяць тому +1

    Awful video. Do a little more research before trying to talk about something you don't know. Just a tip

  • @32Caterpillar32
    @32Caterpillar32 Місяць тому

    Meu mano o yt esta a sabotar o teu canal
    Sempre recebi os teus videos na homepage e de repente parei de os receber e pelo que vi nao fui o unico
    Faz um atentado a esses manos

  • @TheBrazukanj
    @TheBrazukanj Місяць тому +1

    Such a bad video, It had potential , dude don't understand nothing about soccer 😂

  • @joaobxd299
    @joaobxd299 Місяць тому

    Great Video!

  • @josephleitao5431
    @josephleitao5431 Місяць тому +3

    Flamengo é o maior do Rio, do Brasil e das Américas

    • @victorsarkis2178
      @victorsarkis2178 Місяць тому +4

      ae você acordou

    • @sleeping.helper
      @sleeping.helper Місяць тому

      Concordo!!! E diria mais: maior do mundo!!! Em matéria de cheirinho 😂😂😂😂😂, rei do cheirinho 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Leoandro2000
      @Leoandro2000 Місяць тому +1

      Não é nem sequer o mair do Brasil em nenhuma competição que disputa fora o carioca e ainda isso é recente kkkkkkkk

  • @FrankWeil-ib4fw
    @FrankWeil-ib4fw Місяць тому +1

    Since the Portuguese returned to Brazil, is just about WINNING! Imagine what Brazil would be if the Portuguese were in Brazil in the last 200 years?

    • @tufab3494
      @tufab3494 24 дні тому

      bro just be quiet...