All these videos you've been putting out with your extra time now is a sad reminder that we can't go caving right now. We've got a large cave in Oklahoma that we were supposed to start mapping again, but it's been put on hold.
I've used mine for over an year, on kilometers of muddy ropes and the wear is not so bad, for sure my petzl basic can be used for 1-2 years. Also, here we use 8-9mm ropes, because they're lighter, so basic is perfect. :)
Interesting. It might be the larger diameter rope we tend to use in the US. The rope rides on the very top end of the cam, which wears and then begins to slip. It probably contacts the middle of the cam when using something smaller.
@@DerekBristol yeah, maybe here, in Europe, with small diameter it lasts longer. It's not so pleasant to ascend a 11mm rope with basic. However, it's worth the money, I tested more similar ascenders and they are far from good for me.
Excellent! hi Derek, Ive been using "ascencion" Petzl ascender for years, but for recomendation, i started using the basic, but in this smaller version, miss a hole on the top, my question is, if i want to make a conversion ascending to descend, is: is really blocked the basic, putting the conector, trought the only one hole on the top?
In a pinch, but it isn't ideal for that purpose. The Basic won't lie flat against the belly/chest and the cam opens to the opposite side. It won't slide up the rope as easily and won't be as comfortable to wear.
there is one thing about the basic that I do not like. And it is the same with all of the other small ascenders similar to it. The bottom hole. If there is anything that is clipped into the bottom hole and weighted, the natural tendency is for the carabiner to slide over and rub against the rope. This wears the rope more AND wears the carabiner. That problem could be eliminated if Petzl would use my idea of building in a side locking carabiner off to the left.
I use both... Basic for the footloop and Croll for the chest ascender. I know a few people that use a Croll on their footloop as well as for a chest ascender because they like the interchangeability and prefer a left-handed upper ascender, but the Croll isn't as friendly to grip, and being right-handed I find it easier to cross rebelays with the Basic. I'll be doing a Croll L and Croll S review soon.
Estoy videos son muy buenos por la calidad de imágen y la técnica con la manejan el equipo, gracias por subirlos.
Saludos desde Bolivia!
Though BASIC been right handed, I found it is best to open with left hand if single hand operation is needed.
All these videos you've been putting out with your extra time now is a sad reminder that we can't go caving right now. We've got a large cave in Oklahoma that we were supposed to start mapping again, but it's been put on hold.
It's a good time for virtual caving... and without new cave trips it's an opportunity for me to get caught up on some gear reviews.
@@DerekBristol Well keep'em coming, I enjoy them.
I've used mine for over an year, on kilometers of muddy ropes and the wear is not so bad, for sure my petzl basic can be used for 1-2 years. Also, here we use 8-9mm ropes, because they're lighter, so basic is perfect. :)
Interesting. It might be the larger diameter rope we tend to use in the US. The rope rides on the very top end of the cam, which wears and then begins to slip. It probably contacts the middle of the cam when using something smaller.
@@DerekBristol yeah, maybe here, in Europe, with small diameter it lasts longer. It's not so pleasant to ascend a 11mm rope with basic. However, it's worth the money, I tested more similar ascenders and they are far from good for me.
@@DerekBristol You SHOULD optimise for 11 mm rope.
Excellent! hi Derek, Ive been using "ascencion" Petzl ascender for years, but for recomendation, i started using the basic, but in this smaller version, miss a hole on the top, my question is, if i want to make a conversion ascending to descend, is: is really blocked the basic, putting the conector, trought the only one hole on the top?
Do you have any recommendations for ascenders that dont wear out as quickly as Petzl's models? I love your content!
Thanks
Can you use the patzl basic instead of the petzl croll? Thank you
In a pinch, but it isn't ideal for that purpose. The Basic won't lie flat against the belly/chest and the cam opens to the opposite side. It won't slide up the rope as easily and won't be as comfortable to wear.
Looks like it shrunk! Unfortunately they probably jacked the price to no end!
there is one thing about the basic that I do not like. And it is the same with all of the other small ascenders similar to it. The bottom hole. If there is anything that is clipped into the bottom hole and weighted, the natural tendency is for the carabiner to slide over and rub against the rope. This wears the rope more AND wears the carabiner. That problem could be eliminated if Petzl would use my idea of building in a side locking carabiner off to the left.
Basic vs Croll? any preference?
Ummmmm...... one is for your hand and the other is for your chest. Unless you're using a ropewalker.
I use both... Basic for the footloop and Croll for the chest ascender. I know a few people that use a Croll on their footloop as well as for a chest ascender because they like the interchangeability and prefer a left-handed upper ascender, but the Croll isn't as friendly to grip, and being right-handed I find it easier to cross rebelays with the Basic. I'll be doing a Croll L and Croll S review soon.
@@DerekBristol Thanks for the explanation. I look forward to your Croll review!