That is surprising to be honest, i have 32 out of mine with a 29 tooth pinion and 68 tooth spur. To be fair a 23turn motor matching a 15turn is quite impressive👍🏼😎awesome video as usual!.
It takes an awful lot to get these going fast. IN last years speed challenge I ended up running a 64t spur and 42t pinion with a Castle brushless system on 3s! LOL! I did get it up to 68 mph and that was more than fast enough for me! LOL!
@@rctamiyaaddict4687 They are geared very low so changing that will will have the biggest impact. Motor speed helps of course but gearing is where you will pick up the most noticeable gains. Have fun with it!!
Weird results, to be honest. My TT02 with NiMh + Torque Tuned (16000 rpm) + 22/70 reached 19 mph. Then 26 with 29/64. The RZ is about 26000 rpm, so theoretically at least 50% more, especially with a Lipo; meaning 26-27 mph+ with 23/68 🧐 You sure about your drivetrain, ESC and radio endpoints ? 🤝
Whoa , whoa, whoa. So a Tamiya 23 turn motor just matched a 15 turn motor? If anything , it does prove the 15 turn way slower than it should be. Reedy makes a nice motor. Reedy Radon 2 15T 3-Slot 4100Kv Brushed 540 Motor Fairly inexpensive.
Ridiculous video, the RZ is a top quality motor and if you knew anything about gearing then you would know how quick that motor is ! I had mine geared at 7.37 on race day and it was matching the 13.5 blinky guys. Geared at 4.76 it was blisteringly fast.....
@rctamiyaaddict4687 sorry to be so blunt, I am a Racer who started late 80's early 90's so I am one of not many people left who have a lot of brushed motor knowledge. Brushed motors have gearing windows just as brushless does. That 23 turn rz has a large commutator and laydown brushes. Meaning it's designed to be geared high.
Thank you. I’m doing this project with practically zero knowledge so anything I can pick up is welcome. I was expecting the motor to do better but then I don’t really have an understanding of gearing. The motor has become damaged which is in my latest video, so I’m back with the HPI Firebolt.
@@rctamiyaaddict4687 I m in the same situation as you as i also just bought my first RC based on a brushed motor. I m also interrested in upgrading at some point in time so i have looked into the knowledge available. Regarding motor performance i had the same problem as you as that everyone is telling you just use a lower turn for higher speed. But it is much more complicated, since the motor quality plays a big role. Except Tamiya and maybe some others it is a rarity to even get proper performance information like efficiency curves, torque und rpm curves to get at least an understanding what the motor should theoretically do. Regarding your test. You compared an ok 15t motor against a high quality 23t motor and the 23 had the same speed. That is actually very good. The big advantage that you have with this motor now is, that it will most likely draw less ampere and needs less watts to get there which should give you headroom for you heat management and higher gearing because of more torque potential from the motor. So the only thing to check now before getting more speed is to monitor the heat of the motor / system and deacreasing the gear ratio in reasanable steps e.g. via pinion change
That is surprising to be honest, i have 32 out of mine with a 29 tooth pinion and 68 tooth spur. To be fair a 23turn motor matching a 15turn is quite impressive👍🏼😎awesome video as usual!.
Thank you. I was expecting it to be better, but maybe it'll last longer than the 15t one
It should last longer it doesnt have any fins to spit out the side either😂👍🏼
very true
It takes an awful lot to get these going fast. IN last years speed challenge I ended up running a 64t spur and 42t pinion with a Castle brushless system on 3s! LOL! I did get it up to 68 mph and that was more than fast enough for me! LOL!
I have a couple of things to try. If I can initially get it past 30mph this year I’ll be happy
@@rctamiyaaddict4687 They are geared very low so changing that will will have the biggest impact. Motor speed helps of course but gearing is where you will pick up the most noticeable gains. Have fun with it!!
Installs dean battery connector...less resistance= higher voltage to motor 😊😊😊
Thanks for the recommendation.
This and the 1080 lol mine runs 3s it’s mad.
Ive got a few superstock tz motors new think there both same etc 26000rpm with plenty of torque so should see increase for sure😊
Have a tz motor in the BBX.
You need to give it longer run to get it upto speed
I have a spot in mind that will allow me to do that. Trouble with my current location is all the dog walkers, cyclists and strollers
That's a bit disappointing 🤔 great testing though i was thinking about getting one of those not so sure now 🤔
I thought it would do better. I need to switch out the bearings, but I saw a video on that and it didn’t increase speed.
Would never guess the firebolt and super stock would perform equal. Did you notice anything other between the two? Like torque or responsiveness?
I thought when it was off the ground, on its stand, it seemed a lot faster, tyres ballooning with the Super Stock.
@rctamiyaaddict4687 Have seen that motor perform amazing. You sure it's a genuine Tamiya. Nothing that binds?
It was bought from Modelsport UK so would expect it to be the real deal
@rctamiyaaddict4687 Should be genuine then 👍 maybe working better with another gearing 🙂
Weird results, to be honest. My TT02 with NiMh + Torque Tuned (16000 rpm) + 22/70 reached 19 mph. Then 26 with 29/64. The RZ is about 26000 rpm, so theoretically at least 50% more, especially with a Lipo; meaning 26-27 mph+ with 23/68 🧐 You sure about your drivetrain, ESC and radio endpoints ? 🤝
Yep, more RPM should equal more MPH
Maybe something is quite right as I was expecting better. Going to put the 64t spur in next.
Gear mesh sounds too tight, that will take a lot of power
Thanks for the advice, all appreciated.
Whoa , whoa, whoa. So a Tamiya 23 turn motor just matched a 15 turn motor? If anything , it does prove the 15 turn way slower than it should be. Reedy makes a nice motor. Reedy Radon 2 15T 3-Slot 4100Kv Brushed 540 Motor
Fairly inexpensive.
Good point. Maybe the 15t motor wasn’t performing. Thanks for the motor recommendation.
@@rctamiyaaddict4687 best of luck!
Funny, had already check out the motor you’ve recommended. Think I’ll be giving it a try.
Lipo can run a very little bit faster only, voltage too high is not for brushed Super Stock motor
Ridiculous video, the RZ is a top quality motor and if you knew anything about gearing then you would know how quick that motor is !
I had mine geared at 7.37 on race day and it was matching the 13.5 blinky guys.
Geared at 4.76 it was blisteringly fast.....
Thanks for your comments, every days a learning day.
@rctamiyaaddict4687 sorry to be so blunt, I am a Racer who started late 80's early 90's so I am one of not many people left who have a lot of brushed motor knowledge. Brushed motors have gearing windows just as brushless does. That 23 turn rz has a large commutator and laydown brushes. Meaning it's designed to be geared high.
Thank you. I’m doing this project with practically zero knowledge so anything I can pick up is welcome. I was expecting the motor to do better but then I don’t really have an understanding of gearing. The motor has become damaged which is in my latest video, so I’m back with the HPI Firebolt.
@@rctamiyaaddict4687 I m in the same situation as you as i also just bought my first RC based on a brushed motor. I m also interrested in upgrading at some point in time so i have looked into the knowledge available. Regarding motor performance i had the same problem as you as that everyone is telling you just use a lower turn for higher speed. But it is much more complicated, since the motor quality plays a big role. Except Tamiya and maybe some others it is a rarity to even get proper performance information like efficiency curves, torque und rpm curves to get at least an understanding what the motor should theoretically do.
Regarding your test. You compared an ok 15t motor against a high quality 23t motor and the 23 had the same speed. That is actually very good. The big advantage that you have with this motor now is, that it will most likely draw less ampere and needs less watts to get there which should give you headroom for you heat management and higher gearing because of more torque potential from the motor.
So the only thing to check now before getting more speed is to monitor the heat of the motor / system and deacreasing the gear ratio in reasanable steps e.g. via pinion change