Smart or Not? | Breville vs Ninja vs June Ovens REVIEWED (Ep#4)

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  • @KarlRamstedt
    @KarlRamstedt 8 місяців тому +43

    Honestly, I see internet connectivity as a negative with most appliances. As a technologically literate programmer I'm aware of all the extra points of failure of "smart" products and I usually make a conscious effort to avoid them if I can. There's too many horror-stories of devices bricked by updates and devices that lose functionality or stop working entirely because the company stops maintaining their software. In fact: those scenarios seem more likely than updates actually improving functionality, because most companies lock such updates behind newer models, expecting you to buy a new model to get access.

  • @ElixirGrow
    @ElixirGrow 7 місяців тому +51

    Pro tip on the Ninja: if you want to run it without the convection fan just set the mode to reheat. Only the top and bottom elements will heat up.

    • @weirdbeardzz
      @weirdbeardzz 5 місяців тому +7

      Thanks for saving me $500 lol. Had a Bravetti Rotisserie oven for 10 years, an absolute beast. But the old guy is tired and wearing down. I loved the large capacity and versatility with element control (top and bottom), plus convection. Never going back to full size oven at home. Ninja XL Pro looks like a winner.

    • @ryoudou29
      @ryoudou29 Місяць тому +1

      In that matter are you able to set the temperature as hight as you want ? without any restriction of the reheat mode ? (i'm planning to get the ninja also)

  • @iTzDritte
    @iTzDritte Рік тому +173

    I haven’t been this emotionally invested in my specific device being perceived as best-in-class since my childhood console wars.

    • @hb-mek
      @hb-mek Рік тому +5

      the best in class would be the anova combi oven

    • @AdamAvakian24
      @AdamAvakian24 Рік тому

      I felt this.

    • @Kimberlite66
      @Kimberlite66 Рік тому

      lol

    • @crcurran
      @crcurran 10 місяців тому +7

      but can your Smart Oven run Crysis?

    • @olliebluemama
      @olliebluemama 8 місяців тому

      Right. I’m here for this

  • @ghjong001
    @ghjong001 Рік тому +64

    I really like that you didn't just pick a 'best' oven, but fully explained what each one brought to the table. As advanced as the June oven is, the ninja actually fits my needs (and, more importantly, my little apartment kitchen) best. I have an immersion circulator for precision work, and my main oven for baking (which generally requires at least one half-sheet pan anyway); the ninja would let me get rid of the air fryer, while also being able to use two racks even in a smaller job. My needs will probably change in the future, but for now, it's what makes the most sense for me.

    • @TheeeDannyD
      @TheeeDannyD Рік тому +2

      im getting a ninja for my campervan fo shore. It looks amazeballs!

    • @cchoi108
      @cchoi108 11 місяців тому +1

      Agree, ummm, I think most of us like, ummm, ALREADY HAVE AN OVEN! So we're all set for baking and roasting. It's the other stuff we need to do, like air frying without those awful plastic containers, and I sure could use a dehydrator, and a whole bunch of other functions. Does it prove bread? And it's only 199 at Walmart.

    • @Notturnoir
      @Notturnoir 5 місяців тому +2

      @@cchoi108i actually want one for roasting!

  • @u2bst1nks
    @u2bst1nks Рік тому +70

    This channel is one of the best in food science and cooking tech. I wish he made more vids.

  • @MelanieOh
    @MelanieOh Рік тому +25

    Fantastic job with this series, it's raised my level of thought about my own appliances a little bit, like how they work and what I want/need them to do. I really enjoy how you present the science and real-world cooking pros and cons of these devices and communicate your vision of what truly 'smart' kitchen tech is/ought to be.

  • @Darklink224
    @Darklink224 Рік тому +42

    I'm surprised the anova combi oven wasn't included. With 100% humidity, wouldn't the temp around food surface actually be the oven temp?

    • @mattythebatty1
      @mattythebatty1 Рік тому +5

      I asked about this in the previous episode - it's considered different enough to be reviewed separately

    • @ChrisYoungCooks
      @ChrisYoungCooks  Рік тому +61

      So, it turns out that *eventually* the surface temp and oven temp become the same with 100% humidity, but it takes quite a while. Even inside a sous vide bag the surface temp is lower than the bath temp for a long time-this is why you can actually speed sous vide by raising the bath temp a couple degrees and not overcook things. Getting into the science of all this, plus looking at all the features of the Anova is just a big job. Adding it to this review would have been like including a Ferrari in a series on reasonable mid-sized cars.

    • @BillAckerman
      @BillAckerman Рік тому +24

      I own both the Breville Joule and the Anova Precision Oven. The Joule purchase was a mistake - the Anova beats it in every way for all kinds of cooking. The Anova does have a bigger footprint, and whoever decided to put touch controls on the handle should be fired. But this was a great series of videos and it achieved its intended goal: I ended up purchasing the Combustion thermometer!

    • @carolmelancon
      @carolmelancon Рік тому +3

      @@BillAckerman I predict you will be very happy. I have the APO and the Combustion Predictive Thermometer - a match made in heaven.

    • @Dominikmj
      @Dominikmj Рік тому +5

      @@BillAckerman
      Hm- i came to this review because of the Anova Precision oven. It was always on the top spot of my shopping list- but I just watched a video of American test kitchen where it totally lost. @chrisyoung over to you… please test!

  • @jlittsey6243
    @jlittsey6243 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for your work, I have already owned the Breville Smart Oven Air Fryer Pro since 2021. I use it every single day and it does a wonderful job.

  • @xipalips
    @xipalips Рік тому +12

    It's really interesting to me how well engineered both of the Ninja products you've reviewed are given that it's more of a budget brand. Definitely some great staff they've got.

    • @ChrisYoungCooks
      @ChrisYoungCooks  Рік тому +12

      I admit to being surprised. There is definitely sone good engineering going on there.

    • @dutchr4zor
      @dutchr4zor Рік тому

      They also seem to be the only consumer Pacojet competitor.

  • @hobbyholly
    @hobbyholly Рік тому +6

    I've owned the Ninja XL for just over a year. I can not recommend it. All reviews I see for this oven are not from daily use long term. I loved the size of the oven. It worked well when it worked although it does not heat as evenly as advertised. The problem is just after a year it no longer functions which is crazy for the $300 price tag. 1 year of use caused a malfunctioning fan that started as a strange noise and became just not working. Past the warranty there are no parts to buy to fix it and no repair option from Ninja. Very disappointing. Now I'm researching for a replacement air fry oven as its something I use all the time, this didn't last as long as my much cheaper Cuisinart.

  • @Rudy1150
    @Rudy1150 Рік тому +26

    i was most shocked they couldnt reach the stated 500 degrees temperature with 2 falling far short. clearly it has to do with insulation and heat loss since you said the outside of the ovens were hot to the touch. Missing a temperature claim in an empty oven is straight up deception.

  • @Sveakungen
    @Sveakungen Рік тому +3

    This channel is sublime. It is beyond delightful to be able to learn from one the best (if not the best) in the technical aspects of cooking. You always back up the things you say with facts and easy to follow animated or real demonstrations. Combine that with well-produced videos and a soothing voice and you can easily binge watch this channel and feel quite a bit smarter after. 🥰

  • @PhilipLemoine
    @PhilipLemoine Рік тому +3

    Great job man!! This is hands down the best appliance review channel!

  • @carolcaris2149
    @carolcaris2149 Рік тому +3

    Your detailed use of each oven was great. I love Breville products, but I own and use the Ninja oven. It is used more than my stove oven weekly and comes in very handy for extra dishes on holidays.

  • @maxworking2058
    @maxworking2058 Рік тому +2

    This chanel is highly underrated! i absoluely enjoy the in debth tech talk .. thank you very much!

  • @LeeBoris974
    @LeeBoris974 Рік тому +9

    Interesting videos, thank you. I kind of want a June Oven, but the company appears not to be selling them anymore and hasn't for months as far as I can tell, that's out. In the end, I kind of just want a good oven that can reach and hold high temps and that has a decent fan (that I can turn off). That doesn't seem to be available.

    • @zendasmom
      @zendasmom 8 місяців тому +1

      I have a June and love it. But when Weber bought out June they discontinued them.

  • @emanuelhess9909
    @emanuelhess9909 Рік тому +4

    I would be interested on reviews of built in ovens from leading manufacturers always comparing the top model gaggenau/wolf/miele/samsung/aeg/bosch/siemens and others

  • @michaeldoyle5001
    @michaeldoyle5001 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting series Chris. I see the wall outlet as the biggest drawback by limiting power. I'm more interested in Steam Ovens and look forward to you testing them.

  • @BromideBride
    @BromideBride 5 місяців тому

    Thank you. These are the most honest and objective reviews I have watched about these products.
    The Ninja is the perfect size for my kitchen but as I bake much more than I oil cook this is perhaps less suitable for my needs and the other products don't seem to match either.

  • @charlesnordlander1629
    @charlesnordlander1629 Рік тому +2

    Great series, Chris! Four more reasons why you do the best and most informative reviews of cooking tools. I learn so much with each review. But per Lee's post below, do you know what's up with June having no ovens for sale, with no mention on their website about a reason or when a restock might happen. Being the most technically advanced of the ovens, I suppose supply chain issues with getting needed parts could be why.

  • @chibynite
    @chibynite 9 місяців тому +1

    Wow, what a thoughtful, unbiased, and well presented review. I have not seen your channel before but this checked every box for me. Great comparison. Liked & subscribed!

  • @benkaminsky
    @benkaminsky Рік тому +29

    Honestly I’ve owned the non-joule version of the Breville Smart oven air pro and have found it to be great for absolutely everything including air frying and reasonably large roasts BUT given the quality and savviness of their design in appliances overall, I’m shocked they still haven’t included a port for a thermocouple. It would seem like the most obviously breville thing to do!

    • @NoZenith
      @NoZenith Рік тому +2

      Thiiiissss

    • @khzevo
      @khzevo 8 місяців тому

      I agree, pretty glaring miss. I have one of these ovens and I have to use my own probe and set alarms up independent of the oven's process. They need to collab with @ChrisYoungCooks and wirelessly integrate with his thermometer 🙂

    • @shiyanwijesekera4867
      @shiyanwijesekera4867 8 місяців тому

      I agree that it’s a miss, but what’s wrong with using your own probe thermometer?

    • @benkaminsky
      @benkaminsky 8 місяців тому

      @@shiyanwijesekera4867 at which point you’re temp profiling your cooking, you think you’d want to be able to actually know what temp the food is. they’re putting one in tho. it’s coming.

    • @khzevo
      @khzevo 8 місяців тому

      ​@@shiyanwijesekera4867I think, for example, the rotisserie feature could be a whole lot smarter. It's not the end of the world, but I'm probably not going to use features I paid for because of it.

  • @austendewolf
    @austendewolf Рік тому +3

    New watcher here 👋🏾. I can honestly say this is the best review video of any product I have ever seen.
    I got a good laugh out of “despite its fairly awful name..” when talking about the ninja 😂

  • @giop.9275
    @giop.9275 Рік тому +3

    Fantastic series; I personally would keep the Ninja too.
    Considering that the June uses cameras, I wonder if temperature control behaves differently with food in the oven.
    The industry needs more independent testing, keep up the good work!

  • @Demasx
    @Demasx Рік тому +3

    I enjoyed this in-depth series and expertise, thank you

  • @CoolJay77
    @CoolJay77 Рік тому +3

    A great presentation. June is quite impressive. I am inclined towards getting the Anova Precision for its sous vide and steam feature. Good to know that you plan to make a video
    on it. BTW, I am happy customer of the Predictive Meat Themometer. I am surprised, I have not seen BBQ channels toying with it yet.

  • @wrtau23
    @wrtau23 8 місяців тому +2

    Would love an update now that June is no longer making ovens and many, including myself, have a Gen2 oven that can't receive updates after factory reset and the oven no longer works.

  • @Spooketti0s
    @Spooketti0s Рік тому +3

    Do you have thoughts on the Anova Precision Oven? I’m curious how moisture and the thermometer impact your perception (but recognize the conflict of interest with the probe function, too). How do steam/combi functions review out in your opinion?

  • @michaelbartlett1244
    @michaelbartlett1244 Рік тому +1

    Suggestion for a new video. I have an Anova Precision oven, I'd really appreciate a review, or suggestions on when to use steam and at what settings, maybe a good chance to talk about the science of steam ovens.

  • @angelbeltranIII
    @angelbeltranIII Рік тому +4

    Do not buy the June oven. It breaks every 2 years. We’ve gone through 3 replacement and now they are asking us to pay $450 w/ a 60 day warranty. Stay away from June.

  • @nancybyrd2221
    @nancybyrd2221 Рік тому +2

    Chris, when it comes to trusted, tested, and knowledgeable opinions on electronics in the kitchen, you are THE MAN! I mean, having six Joule's, I know you know what the hell you're talking about! The one thing I have to disagree with you on is the Breville customer service. Without going into too much detail, I was VERY disappointed (and angry) that an expensive Breville juicer lasted only 3 weeks past it's one-year warranty. The experience with their customer service was not exactly stellar. Long story short, after sending back to them the now defunct juicer, they sent to me a new juicer....problem solved. Except it conked out a couple of months later. So I'm not keen at all about Breville and gun-shy about making a major purchase from them ever again.
    I appreciate the reviews on the ovens! You're the best!

    • @altrdgenetics
      @altrdgenetics Рік тому +2

      I am also disappointed with Breville's customer service. Not only did I have issue with ordering one of their PolyScience items (never sent the shipping email) but also currently attempting to get support for my Joule unit and support sent the wrong part and have been silent for over 2 weeks and no one answering their phones.
      So I agree with you on future purchases. I will not look at Breville for future appliances based on my interactions with them no matter how good they review.

    • @msk3905
      @msk3905 7 місяців тому +1

      I had a Breville smart oven and something that needs to be communicated is that their electronics are temperamental and fail often! We loved our oven until we started getting error messages, when I reviewed my manual it stated to shut off unplug and contact service immediately. After researching this I found that it is very common issue with them as many others had the same and yes it failed like 4 months after the warranty...funny how this seems to work out?

  • @jvillasante
    @jvillasante 10 місяців тому +1

    Was about to buy the Breville but not I have second thoughts :(. One thing I haven't seen is how these ovens control smoke and how is cleaning.

  • @gertie2454
    @gertie2454 Рік тому +1

    I bought the Ninja 10 in 1 last week ($229.00) & so far so good. It took a couple of tries to get the toast to the way I like it, baked some peanut butter cookies that came out wonderfully. I'm going to do a meat loaf & baked potatoes tomorrow. The real test will be a whole baked chicken. If it bakes up with crispy skin & still moist inside, then it will have been worth it. My only worry is the reports by many who say it is a pain in the tush to keep clean.

  • @ScarsOfAFracturedSou
    @ScarsOfAFracturedSou Рік тому +1

    Excellent content, and insight in to what makes a smart oven and how smart they are and possibly could be.

  • @mad_incognito
    @mad_incognito Рік тому +1

    Internet connectivity has also the chance to brick an appliance when the vendor decides it wants to move on. Being a software engineer I am not buying a smart appliance. If my smart thermometer bricks that is one thing but if my oven ($900) bricks it is a different story. I bought the Meat-It thermometer and it is a piece of junk - hard to pair, uses batteries to charge and does not show the correct temperature.

  • @Harry-cg5gs
    @Harry-cg5gs Рік тому +1

    Such a clean series of reviews
    plus I love that thumbnail hahaha

  • @ofliz1232
    @ofliz1232 10 місяців тому

    Absolutely the best comparison of these models. Scouring UA-cam to find a reasonable video and you nailed it. Thank you.

  • @benjie7
    @benjie7 Місяць тому

    Simply amazing.... that's all i can say about this detailed breakdown

  • @LittIegator
    @LittIegator Рік тому +3

    I often wonder why there isn't an oven that just lets us manually control the elements and fan speed. It's annoying that you have to learn what each "feature" actually does and then try to remember that. Same applies to everything like instant pots, too. Keep all the buttons for the normal user for sure, but throw us a bone.

  • @lix2635
    @lix2635 Рік тому

    This is a fantastic series! I'm quite nerdy about kitchen gear and learned so much from your videos. I think there are several other interesting questions worth discussing in today's smart oven world:
    - What's the benefit of water in baking & air frying? Many steam ovens have a "steam bake/roast/broil" mode which uses steam and heating elements simultaneously. The recent Dreo Chefmaker air fryer simply sprays water on the food surface during cooking. Does it really make a difference, in terms of the evenness of temperature on the surface or the moisture inside the food?
    - Similar to Element IQ, Dreo Chefmaker claims to have cooking programs that divide cooking into several stages - achieving doneness, pre-sear, sear, etc. It sounds like a significant step up compared to traditional air fryers' static presets. Do you think a complex program actually helps with cooking things like steaks?

  • @ajs11201
    @ajs11201 2 місяці тому

    Interesting reviews. I find it interesting that both Consumer Reports and America's Test Kitchen love the Breville and it always comes out on top in both of their reviews. Of course, they're rating an overall usage--including toasting bread and roasting meat in addition to the air-frying function. As you said, all households are a bit different, and for me, if I make this investment, I'd want to ditch my regular toaster as well as obviate the need for an air fryer, and I don't really need my countertop oven to be leagues smarter than my range oven, so maybe the Breville is best for me. Thanks for all of your insights.

  • @ttl8me
    @ttl8me Рік тому +1

    Great video! I hope you can also do an in depth review of the Anova

  • @conorobrien2712
    @conorobrien2712 Рік тому +1

    Great series and video. Would like to offer one bit of constructive criticism though, when discussing temps, it would be great to have the celcius on the screen too. Doesn't need to be part of the script, but as someone not living in North America, I have no real concept of what a temperature difference of 20F means.

  • @michaelhuang4793
    @michaelhuang4793 Рік тому

    Love your unbiased product review which help me to make the informative decision. Thank you, Chris. Please continue to make this type of the video content.

  • @Gaggingonacorpse
    @Gaggingonacorpse Рік тому +1

    Hey Chef, glad to have found your channel. I remembered you from In search of perfection! The steak overcooking incident. The look Heston gave scared the life out of me, I'll always remember that. Glad to see you're doing well and have your own channel! (:

    • @ChrisYoungCooks
      @ChrisYoungCooks  Рік тому +2

      Thankfully that look was staged for the camera. I only got it for real once, when I first started working for him. And once was enough!

  • @pete4180
    @pete4180 Місяць тому

    Very informative 👏 Presentation clear & easy to understand!

  • @kevinyoung2469
    @kevinyoung2469 8 місяців тому +1

    You are supposed to leave between 8" 20cm to 12" 30cm air gap clearance above the ovens for heat safety. So the taller ovens like the Ninja cannot be used under a standard height wall cupboard. Therefore the lower wider ovens are the only option for a kitchen when the oven is to be placed under a wall cupboard.

    • @70spices
      @70spices 3 місяці тому

      This is from the Ninja manual: “When using this oven, provide adequate space (at least 1” above and on all sides) for air circulation.”
      Considering its height is 13.34 inches and standard cabinet height starts at 18-20 inches above the counter, this is perfectly safe to place on the counter underneath cabinets. It’s all good 👍🏻

  • @dr.deallenmillender5816
    @dr.deallenmillender5816 2 місяці тому

    This video was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!

  • @NightlightCompass
    @NightlightCompass Рік тому +5

    i expected a more blatant 'punchline' around the best 'smart oven' being any basic model, paired with your thermometer. seems like you're crediting the audience for being smart enough to connect the dots :)

    • @MelanieOh
      @MelanieOh Рік тому +3

      Seriously. I felt respected watching this. I can only imagine what being able to integrate some of these ovens' functionality with the combustion thermometer would produce, and I think the fact that the thought's occurred to me at all is the best marketing anyone could do! Great video series regardless, it's got me thinking about my own appliances and how they work, and what I actually need at home.

    • @Alex-zp9qm
      @Alex-zp9qm Рік тому

      Yeah, exactly, I think that's the point: what makes a smart oven? Knowing when to take your food out! Hence: predictive thermometer and "any oven you already own". 🤣

    • @jonathanfoulkes6381
      @jonathanfoulkes6381 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, and my crystal ball says this call is about to happen or has happened:
      Breville Product Manager: Hi Chris, lovely series, great job comparing them. But we need to talk about integrating your thermometer with our ecosystem. Was thinking that since they both connect to smartphone apps and the cloud, we could rev the software (cloud + apps) to provide optional integration between the two for owners who have both. That way our autopilot can dynamically adapt based on the actual temperatures from your probe. If you cut us a good deal, we might even offer it as a special bundled set. ...

    • @lillysilbert
      @lillysilbert 10 місяців тому

      lol. I’m waiting for this!!!! I immediately had the same thought. It would definitely elevate the joule oven.

  • @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007
    @wyocoyotewyocoyote9007 Рік тому +1

    another super good review.........why no Anova precision oven review ? Conflict of interest b/c your immersion circulator , or b/c its more a smart steam /combi oven. I'd go for the Ninja and figure out the stop fan hack, based on your 4 reviews, not merely due to price point, but the semi integrated if not highly accurate temp probe, the very good convection heat/fan footprint and height pros......and to be less wed to my freaking phone. I have the Anova and its neato but too app centric/ for me. Needs some "analog" controls.

  • @jewelleryaddict
    @jewelleryaddict 7 місяців тому

    I have had for 20 years a large Sharp carousel convection /microwave. It’s large enough for cooking large turkeys or small game hens perfect. I can bake cakes or anything. Can nuke cup of coffee. Can blend the 2 settings to work together. Cost 500 to 700.. Also bought 7 years ago a cheaper Cuisinart micro /convection oven for 250. Little smaller but keeps up with this Sharp. Would recommend both.

  • @peterroberts3827
    @peterroberts3827 Рік тому +1

    Love this channel but quite often flick past before the video finishes because there’s no Celsius info
    Even some text overlaid on the screen in post would make this channel 👌🏽

  • @markdossett9100
    @markdossett9100 7 місяців тому +2

    My biggest problem is that you didn't cover cleaning. I owned the Ninja Foodi and own a Breville pro. Both are good at first, whenever it comes to clea, ing they are a nightmare. The Ninja I had to cook at temperature set at 400° F but rarely achieved that temperature. Breville about the same but took longer to cook. I had the Ninja less than a year before it barely could reach 350°F so through it away. Breville is about the same plus also hard to clean, but I can use my baking dishes, unlike Ninja, which is not wide enough and too high. But to me, it boils down to cleaning, which takes a lot of time, which defeats saving on cooking time. Needs a self-cleaning feature that works for the cost of these machines. As for the June oven, I don't own it, so I can't say anything about it, but if it doesn't have a self-cleaning feature, I won't buy one. When you guys do a review, involve cleaning in your review after 6 months of use. From my experience with these two I have owned, they must pay you for the review you give on these products. I give Ninja a D, and so far, Breville is a B, but that may go down since I have owned it 3 months.

  • @cfools1469
    @cfools1469 7 місяців тому

    Excellent review. Thanks for the level of detail. The only thing I see that is a gap in these kinds of reviews is reliability statistics.

    • @ChrisYoungCooks
      @ChrisYoungCooks  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you. As someone in the hardware business myself, I would say there is no way to know the reliability statistics without access to the company's warranty claims data. But I also know that if it were over 1% during the warranty period, it would be a major problem and any reasonable manufacturer would be moving quickly to fix the problem. Personally, with these being experienced manufacturing companies, I would guess the manufacturing defect rate is below 0.25%.

  • @LOLCoolJ
    @LOLCoolJ Рік тому +1

    Fantastic series, Chris. I hope to see more like it.

  • @luckycatdad8369
    @luckycatdad8369 5 місяців тому +2

    I have a Breville toaster oven that's at least 6+ years old and it's pretty great. I have a bunch of their appliances and love the brand. I think for the price, if the Ninja could have reached 480f temps it would be a no brainer and I'd buy one tomorrow. The June just seems a bit over priced to have a limiting feature like the poor convection fans, fix that and I'd actually consider it.

  • @autumn_b905
    @autumn_b905 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this video. It was very helpful. Would you recommend getting a ceramic coated air fryer instead of stainless steel?

  • @ElegantSolutions
    @ElegantSolutions 2 місяці тому

    Excellent analysis - very helpful!

  • @jamesbfood1999
    @jamesbfood1999 Рік тому

    I really enjoyed your reviews. Thank you for making them :)

  • @markuszueblin498
    @markuszueblin498 Рік тому +1

    Miele, Electrolux, V-Zug, Wolf/Subzero have build-in ovens/steamers that also regulate steam and grill and should surpass this, some had thermometers integrated since the early 2000s . Not a compeition for the 300$ oven but with the 900$ price tag these ovens should offer better values for money.

  • @Ojisan642
    @Ojisan642 Рік тому

    This was a really good and thorough review and comparison. I’d be interested to see your take on the equivalent non-smart countertop convection ovens.

  • @CroissantCreates
    @CroissantCreates Рік тому

    This was a fantastic review, great quality and content

  • @conniesmith5161
    @conniesmith5161 Місяць тому

    I just purchased a ninja top and bottom oven and I am absolutely loving it the only thing I did cook a pizza the other night and I decided that I would next time at the pepperoni halfway in because it seems to crisp the pepperoni more than I like. I must admit I am absolutely loving it and I'm not ashamed that I bought it I got it at a good price and I did my homework

  • @Dominikmj
    @Dominikmj Рік тому +2

    I feel that there is a seriously missing elephant in the room… the Anova precision oven.

  • @rchrdnsh
    @rchrdnsh 9 місяців тому +1

    ok, now add the Anova Smart Oven and the Brava Smart oven as well…these are great, thank you :-)

  • @trainwreckTentacle
    @trainwreckTentacle 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice review!! And how about the ANOVA Precision Oven?

  • @MrMentalpuppy
    @MrMentalpuppy 10 місяців тому +1

    How about Anova?

  • @Paelorian
    @Paelorian Рік тому

    These ovens have sensors they react to, making them "smart", but part of their appeal is also the additional control of cooking they provide with such features as controllable fans and hearing elements. Some users may also want to consider more advanced ovens that do not offer sensors but do offer other abilities and controls.
    For example, the recently released Ooni Volt 12 electric countertop oven. Designed primarily as a pizza oven, it offers less height and versatility than the ovens in this video. But it does offer a knob of full adjustability for distributing heat between the top or bottom heating element, is certified for outdoor use, and by being super-insulated is the first indoor electric oven to claim to reach 850°F (450° C) on a standard US outlet (120V), using 1600 watts of power and being cool to the touch. It can't tell you when your food is done, but I can see someone who is into pizza-making or other high-temperature cooking choosing between a smart conventional oven or a more specialized pizza oven, which of course you can cook other foods in.
    So high-end non-smart consumer ovens are getting more sophisticated and offering more electronic controls. Like the Anova countertop steam oven, they're beyond the scope of this series on countertop smart ovens, but I think it's worth mentioning that temperature sensors, cameras, and convection aren't the only technologies improving and changing the experience of oven cooking, which otherwise hasn't substantially changed in many decades. There was a change from from traditional fuel-burning ovens to temperature controlled gas and electric ovens. And the experience has basically not changed until very recently. Set a temperature and bake. The biggest addition since was probably an integrated timer, which isn't much. But in the last decade, we now have substantially different home ovens offering more control performance with technologies such as convection, smart sensors, adjustable heating elements, and lower minimum and higher maximum temperates.
    Thank you for this series. I might upgrade my toaster oven within the next few years and I will now be looking for convection and seriously considering smart oven features. Perhaps the next-gen Ninja will be smart enough for the fan to have an on-off switch. I subscribed to you immediately after watching my first video with you reviewing the Ninja CREAMi. I didn't know who you were when I started watching, but by the end I'd subscribed. This content is excellent. I now know what smart ovens are, why they're desirable, and the state of the market for countertop versions. I learned all this from your video series, having very little prior knowledge of smart ovens.
    I will continue to follow your channel, and when I'm ready to replace it upgrade my thermometer yours will be at the top of my list when shopping for a new one. If my budget allowed it, I'd have already bought it after seeing it in use in this series. Easier, faster, more accurate, and more versatile. It's been years since I took a look at the state of the market (I use a Lavatools Javelin but would appreciate a longer probe), but last I checked all the instant-read thermometers just took the temperature at the tip, and you've introduced me to a superior thermometer design.

  • @loislogan3425
    @loislogan3425 Рік тому

    I haven't seen a more informative assessment of smart ovens as this group. My only wish is that you had added a comparison of the Brava oven. Well done and thank you

  • @r9243j
    @r9243j Рік тому +2

    Hahah. Your video thumbnail is amazing

  • @cosmonautikal536
    @cosmonautikal536 Рік тому

    Thanks so much for this video, very helpful for myself and for making recommendations to others.

  • @laifongsiew4581
    @laifongsiew4581 Рік тому

    Hey Chris, I really enjoyed your video very much, you answered cooking myths in very scientific way. I was wondering what are your thoughts on steam ovens for home cooking?

  • @3lapsed
    @3lapsed Рік тому +1

    I enjoyed this series, and I watched it for your approach to these types of reviews and was why I subscribed to you after seeing your Hexclad video.
    However I have a gripe with any app based appliance, which is support. And I don't mean the 1 year warranty or whatever they happen to come with, I mean app and server support. I don't want to own a product that can be so quickly and easily disabled because of a myriad of reasons. From the company deciding to sunset that model you own and stop updating or completely removing from their servers, to the company going out of business or being bought out and eliminated. There's too many ?????s with IOT devices.
    What I'm saying is, if I were inclined to buy any of these, It'd be the Ninja hands down. But given I have a good convection oven that can go fanless, and good probe thermometers, and the room to support that, I think I'll stick it out without a smart oven.

  • @FedericoMaracaglia
    @FedericoMaracaglia Рік тому

    Amazing content! Thanks for all the time you dedicated to this!

  • @victorestevez7809
    @victorestevez7809 10 місяців тому

    This was an excellent review. Thank you! You should compare the June oven with The Brava Glass oven. This should be interesting, as I feel that these are closer in features and function 🤔 I would love to hear your chef/scientific analysis. If considered, thank you in advance!

  • @kccccccc
    @kccccccc Рік тому +1

    Please review the Anova Precision Oven!

  • @kathybayham6229
    @kathybayham6229 11 місяців тому

    Excellent presentation. I very nearly sprang for the Breville today but decided to do a bit more research. In my experience, Breville is all marketing. My actual user experiences (food processor, hot water kettle, espresso maker) have been disappointing. It seems this $$$ oven is no different as I've seen the sub-par toast and bagel results. I know you didn't cover that in this episode, but you reminded me to be more analytical and less mesmerized by the shiny box with the showy display. I'd probably pick the June but $900 is too much for me and this is not a must-have purchase.

  • @vitalijn92
    @vitalijn92 10 місяців тому

    Didn’t buy a knew oven for nearly two years since my old one broke. Finally pulled the trigger on the ninja 10 in 1 since it’s only 180€ (195$ tax and shipping included) for Black Friday.

  • @kinglord5429
    @kinglord5429 5 місяців тому +2

    What about ninja double oven

  • @TheeeDannyD
    @TheeeDannyD Рік тому

    I have been thinking about reviewing hearing aids and this format is inspiring.

  • @charlesabrooker
    @charlesabrooker Рік тому

    Great work, Chris!

  • @GoldenDumpling
    @GoldenDumpling Рік тому

    How about the Cuisinart "Air Fryer Toaster Ovens". There are various iterations are around, with different control panels. Its sold at Costco and popular. My issue has been the large diameter ceiling mounted fan has to run at low speed even when not in convection mode, like the Ninja as you pointed out. Aside from the baking issues mentioned, this dries out toast. I think this is likely to keep the top mounted control panel cool so it doesn't fail. It's nice that the Ninja isn't too wide, but width-reducing top mounted control panels need a separate fan to cool the electronics, to avoid the oven interior fan running at all times. That adds cost and complexity, which Ninja and Cuisinart have avoided.
    I've also got a Panasonic NB-G110P, that is popular in Japan. It excels at toasting, getting the exterior crispy without drying out the inside, using an infrared bulb that reaches full output almost instantly. The overhead clearance is extremely low though, a croissant puts it at its limit. It does produce consistent results that avoid burning the top though, since the digital control's algorithm modulates the bulb and elements fairly precisely. An amazing toaster disguised as an oven, and worth a look if that is your focus.

  • @joshhaarris6060
    @joshhaarris6060 Рік тому +1

    can u review the anova precision steam oven in a future video? ive heard mixed opinions on it

  • @iangregoryhome
    @iangregoryhome 8 місяців тому

    Very well presented and very informative, thank you.

  • @clarkosaurus
    @clarkosaurus 8 місяців тому +1

    I was unable to find a June oven to buy, so emailed the company. Here's what I got: "We do want to let you know that we will not continue manufacturing new JuneOvens." Bummer.

  • @jeremys.9905
    @jeremys.9905 5 місяців тому

    Well, I was hoping to know what to buy after this because I’ve had the Joule in my cart over and over the last month. The June sounds awesome but I want a good air fryer, which it clearly isn’t. Wish it checked all the boxes. I suppose I’ll go Ninja, but consumer reviews, even in these comments are a bit rough.
    Great and informative review! Sounds like what I really want doesn’t exist yet.
    Someone tell me when June adds a bigger fan and gets air frying up to par, and sounds like they’d have a winner

  • @diannematthews8838
    @diannematthews8838 4 місяці тому

    Incredible review! Thank you

  • @spider2544
    @spider2544 Рік тому +1

    You gotta do the Anova combie oven

  • @Secondhelix
    @Secondhelix Рік тому +1

    According to June's website, only the highest tier has the function they label as "air fry" and it's $1300. I know that the convection oven is functionally air frying much of the time, but wanted to point that out

    • @ChrisYoungCooks
      @ChrisYoungCooks  Рік тому +3

      I purchased the $900 version which has air-frying on the menus. AS far as I can tell, there is no difference in the ovens or software at the different price points, just the number of various accessories that are included.

  • @docdrone890
    @docdrone890 Рік тому

    Wonderful comparison, Thank You

  • @righteyeartistry156
    @righteyeartistry156 4 місяці тому +1

    I have the Ninja and the temps are way off. I wouldn't buy another and this one is about to go bye bye.

  • @Trent-tr2nx
    @Trent-tr2nx Рік тому

    Excellent video. Confusingly, Breville also sells a “Smart Oven Pro Air Fryer” with “Superconvection”, but the fan layout looks the same as the Joule oven. Perhaps it’s a stronger fan but it doesn’t seem like it would perform any better than what you tested in this video series.

    • @ChrisYoungCooks
      @ChrisYoungCooks  Рік тому +3

      It is the same fan, and the Joule oven also has Superconvection. My understanding was that the Joule version of this oven was the app connected version.

  • @ciaran2679
    @ciaran2679 Рік тому +1

    I'd be more interested in one of these if it also contained a microwave, I think. I'm not sure that the smart functionality is enough of a gain for me that I'd sacrifice the extra microwave function in my current Samsung combination oven.

    • @bizzybits1918
      @bizzybits1918 9 місяців тому

      I decided to reject the convection/microwave combo ovens since I often need both at the same time. The deal breaker was having to let the oven cool thirty minutes before using the microwave. That, plus the turntable is limiting.

  • @AaronFigFront
    @AaronFigFront 11 місяців тому

    Another one you can try is Balmuda’s latest updated “the ranger” microwave + oven combo. The “smart” microwave feature is very interesting.

  • @PR-hl9pm
    @PR-hl9pm Рік тому +1

    Could you please add metric units in the future?

  • @Swampster70
    @Swampster70 Рік тому

    I really liked this mini series. A good watch and very informative.
    I do have a question though. You have a large built in oven and what looks to be another oven/microwave on the wall, why the need for a third oven.
    I've been looking to get rid of many counter top devices to reduce clutter. Are their any smart ovens that are incorporated into the traditional oven/stove top? One that can take advantage of the typical oven hookup at 220/240V or maybe even controls the gas, which would be super easy to do.

  • @madhurissv
    @madhurissv Рік тому

    Informative Video Chris !! Thank you ! Which one is best for roasting vegies ?

    • @ChrisYoungCooks
      @ChrisYoungCooks  Рік тому

      I’d say the Ninja or Breville are best for that because of their more powerful fans.

    • @madhurissv
      @madhurissv Рік тому

      Thank you !!@@ChrisYoungCooks

  • @limavox
    @limavox Рік тому

    Excellent video. Thank you for this level of detail. Any chance you are working a a similar series for induction burners? (But more accessible than the Breville?)

  • @shafqatullah5032
    @shafqatullah5032 9 місяців тому

    Hi Chris! Following your channel and looking forward to buying the Combustion soon from Australia! Can you please review the Dreo Chefmaker Air-Fryer that is somewhat relevant to this category?

  • @Dedstik
    @Dedstik 11 місяців тому

    Just found your channel after Kenji mentioned Combustion Inc. this is great stuff !