How many times have we heard a game announcer say " i guess technically by the rules thats a penalty, but you dont make that call in this situation".. So now we have 2 sets of penalties..depending on how big the moment is? No wonder people cant agree on what is or isnt a penalty.
The whole concept of “not in that situation” is ridiculous. If it’s a foul in the 1st quarter of a week 1 game then it’s a foul in the 4th quarter of a one-score playoff game.
The rules are the rules and should never be situational. Yeah, it's infuriating when your team gets called for something and it leads to points or your team fails to make its down, but you can't cherry pick "when." Imagine if they decided not to make calls in the 4th quarter. What does everyone think would happen? I know. Players would start slowly but then increase every illegal play. It'd turn into a free-for-all, and players on both sides would get hurt. You can't have a kids playing in the playground scenario where kids argue: "I was in!" "No you were out!" We need the rules.
@songsayswhat I've never seen so many grown men act like 4-year-olds on social media when a call is made in favor of the Chiefs. If Buffalo wins today I will not be on the internet complaining.
There is ways to fix it by giving logic fixes and not screaming rigged every time the team you hates gets a favorable call. Every team gets them some Just capitalize on them others don’t.
I think any 15 yard penalty should be reviewable. How the rules are written, any contact to a QBs helmet is not reviewable. The refs are seeing things in real time. They are going to make mistakes.
i love how everyone ignores they literally changed the post season rules for josh allen when mahomes lost in the exact same way to brady. yall make no sense
Everybody excuses him because the 13 second game "wasn't his fault". NOBODY keeps that same energy when it comes to Patrick not getting the ball back. It's always: "bRadY BEaT maHOmEs". Patrick was the better QB both of those games. The Patriots game was a prequal to the 13 seconds game. He had to get a field goal in 30 seconds to tie it.
You forget that the rule change was proposed multiple times including after that Brady Mahomes game. It wasn’t until 13 seconds that it had enough support. And it was the right call to change it anyway
@@skitown11And how so point speads favor the refs calling penalties? Have point spreads gone up due to KC ‘getting more calls’? Do you have ANYTHING to back this up other than your feelings?
I’ve been betting on the NFL for years and I can honestly say I’ve made the most money on the Chiefs. Not only are they insanely good, but more often than not, late in games, Mahomes gets some great calls. As far as this idiot being interviewed, he’s never going to tell the truth.
I officiate baseball, softball, and basketball. I and everyone I work with do not care who wins the games. And for the record, none of us has ever perfectly officiated a game. No one that I know at least. But I can tell you, we strive for excellence...at least all the good officials I know do. So yes, there are some officials out there at lower levels who only do it for the money and don't care about the aspects of what one needs to do to achieve and get promoted. Unfortunately. Go ahead and try processing information at game speed, at eye level, while running and expecting to understand not only the letter of the law ruling but also the spirit of the rule. Its not as cut and dried as one might think when the action isn't in slo-mo on a big screen.
@@thatstheway2429Jesus the dudes comment cleared your dome by a mile. Mike works for Fox dingus lol he’s not saying his point is invalid because he’s at Fox haha he’s replying to the guy above who said Mike works for the NFL 😂
While it is possible that the calls refs make regarding Mahomes may be slightly different, why do we immediately think that the difference is a conspiracy or bias? Might it be that the defenders are especially motivated to take him out - to dive at his head and hurt him and try to take him out of the game because they know he is a perennial winner?
@@goo8295yeah just a rogue referee, his crew had no idea. The 100+ calls a year he made to his crewmembers directly after he called his bookie were just about lunch. Nothing to see here…
All penalties is probably excessive. But 15 yard roughing, etc. penalties probably should be automatic like turnovers or touchdowns. Those can change the outcome of drives, if not games. And this is something New York could do in less than a minute.
I don’t believe the refs have preferential treatment for Mahomes I think it’s probably more that the Chiefs are always in the national spotlight so every little thing is under a much bigger microscope than the vast majority of the NFL. I also think Mahomes is a kinda slick when it comes to trying to feign going out or sliding and he’s also more willing to take said gamble when doing some of those plays than probably most quarterbacks to either get a few more yards or draw a foul
Mahomes understands the rules and how QB's get the preferential treatment. He just uses it to his advantage. He has a good acting coach. He's learned it from being in all those commercials.
Bruh, you nailed it because this is what i said because the Chiefs is on most primetime games it easy to see more things going on but it happens in every game with all teams.
you're 100% correct. Chiefs are actually middle of the pack this year when it comes to flags and when they're thrown. It's just that chiefs are always in spotlight games and when flags happen they 9 times outta 10 capitalize on them better than almost any team.
I've seen it both ways.... these 2 calls, both of which are up for interpretation, and calls that weren't made when a player has been injured. So it can work both ways. Plus statistically, the chiefs don't get anything like favoritism. The media should focus on the need for rule changes rather than feeding into the BS.
Not necessarily rule changes, but using available technology to assist the refs to get calls right. Right now the NFL thinks trotting out a few old men (and women) is all that is necessary to call a game when 4k exists.
I think Pereira nailed it; in the live action split second world of a live game the ref sees something and makes a fraction of a second decision and call. They don't have monitors and slow mo at their fingertips. The broadcasters and everyone after the fact does. So it's easy to review a play from 20 different angels at 35 frames per second and conclude that the initial call made by the ref in the moment was incorrect. The only way the NFL can fix this is to increase the "eye in the sky" ref by running video review on more plays and pausing the game on the field to over turn the call. That will slow the game down. That is likely not good for for the game. Or give the coaches more challenges availble throughout the game. And again, that will slow down the product.... The game and the format will evolve over time as it always does
So what hes saying is the game is too fast, that they're just trying to be right. So that means they need to utilize the technology at hand and review all calls that are 15 yards and an automatic first down.
Agree but to have people say it’s rigged is pretty pathetic. I’m pretty sure those refs knew they fcked up after the game or even during half time. The thing that’s annoying is late slide hasn’t been a problem till now that Pat got a call in his favor. Allen’s been going it for years. In 2022 he has 11 roughing the passer called and 6 of those were do to late slides. Even this year he’s had 3. No one batted an eye or said a word. Now it’s a problem. Sure those calls were wrong but what could you do. Texans want to cry that the game is rigged yet don’t want to take accountability for 8 sacks, 6 dropped passes, missed field goal, missed extra point, not cover washed up Travis and so on. They hold on to those two bad calls yet never being up the bad hold call on morris or the missed face mask on Jones and it was clear as day.
@@kdogsinger2509no they’re not, the ransoms on Twitter either don’t understand that it’s different during live action on the field or they’re just highlighting things when it’s the chiefs and not when is other teams.
It's easy to armchair ref when you can look at mulltiple angles in slow motion. The ref has to make the call in real time from one angle. Remember, the Chiefs had the third most penalties called on them in the NFL for 2024. Also, it's easy to go back and try to find reasons you lost. It's called poor sportsmanship.
@@trjbrew Considering how Joe Buck is constantly mocked by current and former players for not really knowing the game and Aikman constantly hates on the Chiefs and praises the Bills for the same exact things he complains when the Chiefs do it? It's not poor sportsmanship, but ignorance/stupidity and bias.
I used to referee kids sports... 95% parents/fans have no idea what they are talking about regarding calling fouls; and 95% of those people think they are experts.
@@shoota322 lol. I've personally never known a ref who tried to call a bad game... but there have been some who did cheat. Betting influenced are the only ones I know of. Anyway, I haven't done it in years. The only big-time Ref I know is an SEC football umpire. Have a good one.
The whole worries about being fired thing is such utter BS. The argument made here is that the NFL WANTS them to “miss” these calls. Thus, they wouldn’t get fired.
Exactly kinda expected after yesterday's show them talking about it you kinda knew the nfl was gonna want one of thier own on to say ahhhh it don't happen it's impossible. 😂😂 Don't have time to look out for a team yeah right how dumb do they think we are. Im not watching the sb if the chiefs are in it why? Just to see the reffs decide how they gonna make the chiefs win. F that I rather watch an actual competitive sport where the best win.
@@Mrsirwinsalottwait MrSir’sTeamDoesn’tWinALot I think you’re actually onto something!!! Here’s what you HAVE to do. Pull out all $200.00 in your savings’ account and bet the Chiefs money line against Buffalo and then roll those winnings into the SB moneyline. The NFL is rigged for the Chiefs, so why not cash in and make that cash son!?
I was a hockey official and its astounding how little people understand the job or what it’s like. Refs favoring the chiefs is just not a thing. It doesn’t work that way. bad calls happen every week to all teams. Chiefs aren’t special and the numbers support that truth.
@@tonyc8752Texans- missed field goal, missed xp, got sacked 8 times, were spotted 2 points Also Texans- the 2 bad calls is why we lost Idk if officiating was the problem.
@ The entire game is completely different when they call a fake RTP on 3rd and long... and KC ends up scoring points instead of punting. And the refs do this 2-3 times every game for KC. Extending drives that would have resulted in turning the ball over. It's the same way Donoughy explained they cheat in basketball... call 2 fouls early on their best player and force him to the bench. It has a domino effect the entire rest of the game negatively against the team they are targeting.
@@nickolashenderson7816 you need to add the very poor decision by the Texans coach to go for it on 4th & 10. They should have punted. QB was sacked on the play & gave the Chiefs great field position. The Texans, including the coach, are young & inexperienced. They made too many mistakes. There are always going to be bad calls on BOTH sides. You don’t throw up your hands and stop playing. When the Texans played the Chiefs just before Christmas, they lost their composure after the horrific injury to their WR. They could have won that game, but the young QB’s play was negatively impacted. He couldn’t shake it off. Understandable, but a very similar situation happened to the Chiefs when Mahomes took out Rice for the season. However, a veteran team was able to hold it together and still win.
Then why do the call them “OFFICIALS” it’s ok to miss or make a bad call here and there, but this team gets these calls every single time there is a big game. It’s not just “the refs are human”. T
@@stevenstocker7425Hey... where's your comments you made about the two horrible officiating calls in the Bills/Ravens game? Oh! You didn't post comments about those? Hmmmm... I wonder why!?😂
i mean you're right --- but the argument is then why don't you allow crucial game altering penalties like these 15 yard personal foul calls be instantly reviewable by the overseers watching all the games in New York? They can make a revision if necessary and instantly transmit it to the earpiece of the head official on the field. On field refs will miss stuff, make errors, but that's why they have the whole multiple angles camera officials in an office in new york watching the damn thing.
Everyone talks about Mahomes but I don’t hear any comment on the face mask call on Goff that clearly wasn’t. Ref mistakes that favor the chiefs are overblown in the media.
ESPNs Tedd Bruschi On The Texans Complaining About The Referee’s After The Game Saturday: “I don’t think the Houston Texans understand how to win a football game like this I think there’s a big difference in class of coaching staffs and in players here. When you lose a game and you’re talking about the Officials, the Chiefs look at that and understand you never understood how to beat us.”
I guess everyone forgot about the Chiefs bitching about the refs CORRECTLY throwing a flag when they had a player offsides on offense against the Bills last season (Toney). Because that was all that Mahomes, Reid, and Kelce said after that game about a correct flag, so they're just as bad spoil sports on those sorts of things. Texans absolutely earned that loss with 8 sacks and 3 missed kicks, and those flags weren't the difference in the game by far. But Goff and Allen both got lit up in the face worse than Mahomes did (Goff was quite likely concussed), and those weren't called. I think they need to make roughing the passer reviewable, and remove the slide rule completely. If the QB dares to run, he needs to either get out of bounds, or he loses his QB protections.
Okay then explain the blatant missed calls on every other qb? They never miss one on Pat. Burrow got face masked like 3 times in a crucial game against the Ravens and they swallowed the flags.
Jets fan here, I guarantee you this isn’t a Pat is special thing, last 3 years of playing QBs and Josh has gotten extremely favorable roughing calls and other calls while they were on offense. I used to watch it with Brady too. Now in the same game I have seen Zach Wilson get speared in the helmet by like Milano and literally no call and essentially ignored by broadcast. Some QBs get calls favorably it isn’t a just Pat thing. On Burrow’s facemask I think that’s just bad reffing, they missed it with Darnold and with one of the Tampa RBs too. I think the better QBs to name on difference are QBs viewed as running QBs, Lamar gets no protection the same way Mahomes and Allen get from the refs, despite often deserving calls to be made on illegal hits
Of current QB's, Mahomes is 28th in calls (while also being top 5 in QB hits). The only reason people think the fallacy of refs favoring Mahomes/KC is because idiot jealous announcers like soy boy Troy Aikman and talking heads feed their confirmation bias.
it’s not. Alot of people and athletes admits that chiefs just capitalize on the refs fucks up and y’all just blow them up. If the chiefs didn’t score a point and lost. Not a single person would be crying about it.
No it’s not! You’re focused on the Chiefs, so it feels that way! Or should I say Obsessed? Anyway, the Chiefs get many, many penalties called against them. Those 2 flags in this game should’ve stayed in the refs pockets. There Are mistakes made, but Not always benefitting K.C.
What about the Texans holding Chris J and George K the entire first half and third quarter ? The Chiefs won because they are a better team and #15 is one of the greatest ever . I live in Missouri and am a die hard fan but I would admit it if we were winning due to the zebras . I never complained when the Pats ruled the AFC ! Grow up folks its just a dam game and suck it up just like I did all the years the Chiefs were towards the bottom of the AFC and we lost a lot more games than we won ! Keep cryin haters
The mere fact that the NFL and those associated with the NFL are having to come on shows like this to dispel "Myths" is a little bit telling. It means that the majority of NFL fans are not buying what they are selling. I am not saying the NFL is rigging games, but after watching dozen of calls on critical plays (mostly 3rd down) favor the KC Chiefs something is going on. It is called a pattern. You cannot gaslight what my eyeballs see every time in the KC Chiefs are in the playoffs over the last 3 years specifically. It is more than calls involving Mahomes.
Maybe it's you've fallen for the crap over the last couple years of every outcome that you don't like is rigged against you.....I wonder who you learned that coping mechanism from🤔
Everyone's team gets favorable calls or calls that are missed. Everyone complains about the chiefs because they win. They are tired of seeing them in the always on top. So they assume that the refs favor them. It happens to every great team. Loser's mentality
So the pass interference call that allowed Buffalo to score and go up? Why is that call ignored and all we hear is KC It happens every game with all teams.. people just over blow it because they dislike champions
The problem is that those same NFL fans do not see the bigger picture. You want QB's extra protected because what do you rather see, Lions Commanders or Bears Seahawks? The veteran starting QB's make between 1/5 and 1/4 of a teams cap. An injured QB means a lost season instantly and you would have to watch 3-6 defensive battles where people will switch channels and not come to the stadium for. No do I agree with how they are protected? No I don't but I am not paying them north of 40m a year either.
You’re not being gaslit, you’re just emotional about the entire issue. I don’t see any outrage from you on the Ravens pass interference or Dalton Schultz big catch where he clearly bobbled it and only got one foot down. Why are you not evenly incensed? I guarantee if either of those things happened in the Chiefs favor you’d be arguing about how bad those calls were.
Hilarious to have this conversations when the game is over and Texans just a few weeks ago knocked Trevor Lawrence in a head hunting incident that resulted in a player suspension
@@Zahok1I think if a team or player gets a reputation then the officials are hyper aware. The Chiefs OL man, Taylor, has a rep for holding & offsides. He is one of the most penalized players in the NFL because the refs know to watch him. The Texans have been in the news over the Trevor Lawrence injury, thus the refs are watching the Texans particularly close.
Pat is working the rules that are designed to protect him while putting himself in harms way to get a personal foul. He literally flopped later to get another one. That is different and bullshit. Lost all respect for PM now.
@@lambowolf Oh snap, I bet Patrick is wondering why he lost the respect of some random guy on the internet. By your name I assume you are a Packers fan but beyond that you are just a dude on the internet like everyone else.
It doesn’t make sense for Mike Pereira to be critical of present day refs, if for no other reason that he doesn’t want to be fired. He works for Fox Sports analyzing penalties that are called and not called. If he were to be critical of today’s officiating, the NFL would not like that and could pressure Fox Sports to fire him. He is also friends with most of the refs. In quiet corners, with his friends then he says how this crew blew this, that crew blew that. We will never be privy to that.
They only won by 9 points because the Chiefs had a safety at the end of the 4th Qtr. They spotted the Texans those 2 points to run more time off the clock. I agree the 2nd call was particularly bad, but contact to a QBs helmet isn’t reviewable. This rule definitely needs to be changed. However, the Texans made too many mistakes. They are a young team. Poor decisions by the head coach (also inexperienced). Special teams was a disaster. 8 sacks! The Texans were out played. The Chiefs are a bunch of veterans who don’t make many mistakes & always capitalize on the other team’s mistakes.
Imagine how incompetent you have to be for people to think you are actually a part of a grand conspiracy. Much like conspiracy theories about the government, often (but not always), incompetence is far more commonly the explanation. Thinking it is a conspiracy is giving officials too much credit in most cases.
121 officials currently have the privilege of working in the NFL. Each NFL game averages around 153 plays. Game officials are typically accurate on 98.9% of calls. They get two bad calls and everyone yells rigged. Yet there been of 200 officials since the start and not a single one of them have came forward. Not all of them have ended in good terms yet not a peep. It’s just the masses cry way too often and gambling hasn’t helped.
Whether it is my team or not, there is no way I put on a tinfoil hat and think there is a giant conspiracy. People who think like that just are not mentally well.
@@johnbox271 The problem in the US is that there are so many people that believe conspiracy theories. They go around thinking everything is a conspiracy. You are right, they are not mentally well!
Who wants officials to decide games? Win or lose, that sucks. Let them play, call the game the same every time, use a sky judge to get rid of missed or terrible calls within 5 seconds.
We live in the age of feelings over facts! It doesn't matter what this guy says. It doesn't matter if the Chiefs have the 3rd most flagged team in the NFL. Nowadays, everyone THINKS they're an expert, in everything LOL.
If the league actually didn't want these penalties to be called, then they would not be called. It's as simple as that. The fact that this continues to happen and has not changed from year to year is evidence enough for fans to be correct in their estimation that the NFL will protect their largest investments (quarterbacks) over fair/accurately called games. Money is the name of the game, as always. That's why the NFL protected the refs, amd that is why things will not change. Not so long as NFL ratings continue to skyrocket, anyways.
Is it myth that the refs made multiple Chiefs friendly calls, never reviewed them in game, and then doubled down and claimed they were correct calls after? We always hear that football “is a game of inches” and “hinges on 1 or 2 key plays”. Media ignores the favoritism and just runs with the Chiefs dynasty narrative
@@mikesmith5657 so true. I can think of at least 14 games this year where the chiefs opponents got 15-20 bogus penalties per drive. The refs aren’t even hiding it anymore
The first was techincally a right call. The second was perhaps influenced by what happened earlier in the year to Trevor Lawrence and comments made by certain Texans' players. Both players led with their helmets and there was apparent contact. That is only speculation, however. The fact that such a judgement happens in bang-bang fashion and that there was apparent contact with a sliding player's helmet was the more likely rationale for throwing the flag.
That was the explanation given by the ref for both calls. I don't think the fans and some media folks realize any contact from the shoulder upwards is considered roughing the passer and has been called more frequently this year.
@@phibetakefka that’s why the rules need to be fixed. Right now if there’s any contact to a QBs helmet it’s not reviewable. This makes it so difficult for defensive players. The refs aren’t perfect. I’m sure they heard the contact and then saw Mahomes’ head snap back & just threw the flags. Either allow coach’s another challenge for these types of penalties or have any 15+ yard penalty be automatically reviewed
@@denisekirk9321 But there's the thing, New York did review and said the call was correct. Both flags in fact. New York has the ability to chime in if a flag is thrown and tell them to pick it up on a lot of calls, but can't tell them to put down a flag if it was missed. Those don't get overturned and when New York chimes in prior to a challenge, the coach can no longer challenge (mainly because the rules protect them from a lost cause there).
The big problem the NFL seems unwilling to solve is that the refs have to make that split second judgement (and I personally know I couldn't get any of those calls right if I was on the field), but millions of viewers see the replay and what actually happened. There is no excuse not to expand the "sky judge" or whatever you want to call it to have someone watching monitors buzz the head ref to say "The defender led with his shoulder, not his helment" or "there was a facemask committed by #54". With gambling being so prevalent, any impression that the NFL is rigging games is going to lead to real controversy at some point in the future. Unless it's for comedy, though, people claiming the NFL is favoring the Chiefs is a lazy boring take.
#1 Refs can talk about a flag and pick it up. #2 you're talking about quick judgement? The flags thrown on interceptions against the jets and vikings last year were thrown AFTER THE BALL WAS INTERCEPTED. SUSPECT AT THE VERY LEAST. #3 you can't watch the falcons game from this year and tell me the pass interference no call in the end zone wasnt malicious, after they used a pass interference to extend the chiefs drive against the bengals. Pull up all the penalty stats you want. You can get penalties when they don't matter, and you can affect a game with one call or no call. I watch the games. Call it favoritism, call it money being made from sports betting, call it a script or rigged, the texans were right saying they knew they have to beat the refs too. It's unfair. people can believe what they want, but the evidence is out there, and people are getting sick of it
how about instead of just choosing a handful of plays you actually do a full spreadsheet of everything because it is out there, and these lies and myths you are spreading have already been proven wrong. But sure Us Chiefs fans love it when you all complain because it is just hard to admit that your teams sucks and you have to watch them lose every year.
there is actually data that breaks down penalty scenarios and it just doesnt support your claims. facts matter and when you add in variables like feelings, the data gets skewed and biased. chiefs fans are all too familiar with the heartbreak when calls 'dont go our way' and when you separate yourself from the emotion of winning and losing, it becomes clearer that these are judgement calls and the majority of the time they are mostly correct. I believe there is room for improvement and one of the things ive thought of and seen others mention would be 15+ yard penalties getting reviewed automatically.
Of course Mike Pereira is going to say that. Did you honestly expect him to say "yeah, all those calls favoring the Chiefs are exactly how we drew it up, deal with it"? WTF
Pereira was also formerly both a college football and NFL ref. He is protecting his profession exactly like a former wrestler would say, "All wrestling matches are real, not staged! All claims that wrestling is staged and fixed is an absolute myth!"
Here's the only thing you need to know... how much has anybody heard about the worst missed call of the games this past weekend... the DPI called on the Ravens that should've been an OPI that cost the Ravens D a Bills TD? You haven't heard a peep! Why? Because nobody cares about any other bad calls UNLESS it's against the Chiefs😂
Kc recovered a fumble after a false start call literally killed the play to win a game this year. They switched it to a live ball foul and brought the plsy back to live ball. Only kc gets that
It wasn't a "false start", it was an illegal shift" which is not a dead ball foul...the opposing team has the choice to decline...and KC did since the result was a fumble
@jamesanderson5626 true it wasn't a false start.. It was CALLED A FALSE START on the play. When the ref calls a false start the play is dead at the snap. Are players supposed to ignore false start calls from now on just because that one time they ignored their own false start call? Would you explain how it was a live ball after they called false start which always kills the play at the snap?
@chopsieflores4844 so just insults and no dispute of facts? When the official calls false start. The play is dead at the snap. It doesn't matter if another foul occurs or if there's a fumble because the play is dead immediately when they call false start.
The NFL is talking out of both sides of its mouth with that response! The officials definitely have a hard job calling things in real time but USE the technology you have available and start reviewing and overturning the calls that are incorrect!
@@namedvenus158instead of just making a de facto statement, why don’t you prove it? Calls are missed that should have been made and calls are made that shouldn’t have been called in every single game. To make such a ridiculous statement like you just made without proof shows your bias and paranoia. Do some real research over a number of games that are an adequate sample size for the season. Then show your proof. If you’re too lazy to do that, then your opinion means nothing.
@ Not sure if you're talking to me or not, but in case you are, here's how I got my numbers: Step 1: open the search engine of your choice Step 2: Search "roughing the passer penalties by QB" Step 3: Click on any link, at which point you will realize that Patrick Mahomes has 31 roughing the passer penalties to Josh Allen's 38 By your argument of calls being missed and some being made that shouldn't, in theory those would cancel out, with a large enough sample size. If there was some uneven treatment to Mahomes, you'd expect him to have the most roughing penalties, but he doesn't. It's actually the media's darling, Josh Allen, who flops arguably more than Mahomes (though I won't get into this, as it is subjective, which you expressed your displeasure for in your previous comment).
No sir. I thought I was replying to @1RAYGC. He offered no proof other than a statement. I’ve done fairly extensive research on this subject too and the whole “Chiefs get all the calls” conversation is bogus and can be proven pretty easily. The truth is that the haters aren’t interested in anything that disproves their narrative. They’re too disingenuous to just admit they’re tired of the Chiefs winning all the time and beating their team all the time. I guess whatever makes them sleep better at night.
It isn’t about the Chiefs get special treatment it’s about the refs missing obvious calls and allowing guys like Mahomes… yes and Allen I am a Bills fan who can admit Allen draws penalties… to draw those calls. You have a sky judge use it
So if you're saying there are no special rules Mike Pereira then what really happening is bad officiating. But the Chiefs have been the beneficiary of bad officiating way too often.
They literally arent. You can find public data of flags thrown, when theyre thrown, beneficary yards gained, on 3rd and 4th down, and in 4th qtr and you will find chiefs are avg. Thats just for this year. If you stretch it out to 2018, theyre one of the worst penalized teams in the league, even if you account for when the calls happen. This myth that chiefs gets all the calls and nobody else, is the result of people over-watching and hyper analyzing chiefs games but ignoring or not making a big deal of those same exact calls when they happen in other games.
Stevie Wonder can see the bias towards the Chiefs and Mahomes that the refs show every game. Joe Burrow nearly got decapitated in his last game against the Ravens this year and there was no flag to be seen. A defensive player looks at Mahomes the wrong way and it's flags for days. The Bills will have to beat the Chiefs by 4 touchdowns. Otherwise if it's close teams have no chance against the Chiefs.
The calls were clearly wrong. There's no "mmmmmm" about it. Having said that, one can readily understand how it happens. My son was a hockey referee and so I get the speed, human judgement, etc. variables. And yes, they want to get it right (putting aside those corrupt NBA refs for a moment). But here we're on the very highest level of a multi-billion dollar, national-attentive sport with titles and careers on the line. A review of 15 yarders seems to be the only way moving forward.
YOU say they were CLEARLY wrong. They guy who gets paid to call it disagrees. But I agree with review on the 15 yarders and booth call downs on missed facemasks.
Pat has had 5 roughing the passer all year Allen’s has 6. In 2022 Allen had 11 and yea some of those were bad calls and due to late slide. Y’all never said a word lol crazy yall screamed rigged about to calls yet if the Texans would’ve won not one of you would say anything lol
Officials should face criticism by players and coaches without being subject to fines. If you suck at your job, you deserve to be criticized not coddled
Sometimes the refs get it wrong and make bad calls, sometimes the ref make the right call, but people dont like it because of how it affects the game at that moment..but to suggest the refs pick out a team and decide to always make sure that team wins is just paranoia and conspiracy, generally based on sour grapes.
can definitely say you don't know how hard it is whe you havent done it...but with rules set in place, saying people who haven't been refs don't know about officiating is completely dumb. anyone who looks at what the rules are can learn, refs aren't the only ones who know them
So if YOU can't do the job you have because it's too hard, then make penalties reviewable. When everyone in the World knows it's wrong, then it should be overturned. It's not rocket science.
121 officials currently have the privilege of working in the NFL. Each NFL game averages around 153 plays. Game officials are typically accurate on 98.9% of calls. They get two bad calls and everyone yells rigged. 😂
NFL deploying the spokesman to do damage control. This would not be a national discussion if only a certain people are calling it out....everyone outside of KC can see these favoritism calls.
So where were all these complaints when it was Brady? There were some, but not like this. He got calls other quarterbacks didn’t get, he cheated openly, his coach cheated openly, and all the same people who vilify the Chiefs still call him the greatest. It’s bothersome.
stop it KC fans. enough with saying that all calls happen to all teams every week. There’s a reason why this is such a hot topic and it’s not because millions of people are out of their minds or clueless. You actually think that everyone is crazy and making it up? Kansas City gets calls in their favor that are not just small 5 yard calls. The calls they get are 15 yarders or calls that keep a drive alive when they miss on a third down.
@ - please identify the game changing calls that the Chiefs got last week The first RTP penalty led to 3 points which made it 6-3. The second RTP would’ve been 2nd and 6 for KC - hardly the game altering penalty many claim it to be
Mainstream Media is really reeling😂😂😂😂 They took the word of the sore losers and HoF colour commentator struggling to come to terms with a QB having a more historic dynasty than his Cowboys dynasty and went with it as the main narrative.
"I bent over backwards to defend my people". Are these grading on refs he mentioned available to the public? Their stats should be kept just like plays stats.
121 officials currently have the privilege of working in the NFL. Each NFL game averages around 153 plays. Game officials are typically accurate on 98.9% of calls. They get two bad calls and everyone yells rigged.
This is fascinating. If you really have 1/26th of a second to make a game deciding decision then that's not realistic. It's not fair to the refs. So uie technology to help make the right calls, not the fast calls.
@ the chiefs sell tickets and get viewers. And yes - it is the Taylor Swift thing. It’s the quest to 3 peat. It all sells tickets. Also doesn’t hurt that the chiefs ownership help create the afc. That’s why the championship is the Lamar Hunt trophy. The league is in the bag for the Chiefs
I'm sorry you feel so bad about your team losing. It's hard to accept when you are so young but when you play sports, they will teach you something great called sportsmanship.
@@WayneVidzicki Bullshit. The NFL doesn't need any gimmicky to sell tickets. Revenue and TV ratings are higher than ever. The "league" is the 32 owners, each with a vested interest in winning. Do you really believe they had a meeting a few years ago and decided to let the Chiefs win 4 Super Bowls, including a 3peat, in 6 years? You really think a guy like Jerry Jones would agree to that? These guys are billionaires with super-sized egos who want to win as much as the players and coaches do. The Chiefs win because they outplay and outcoach their opponents when the game is on the line, no rigging or officials' assistance necessary.
How many times have we heard a game announcer say " i guess technically by the rules thats a penalty, but you dont make that call in this situation".. So now we have 2 sets of penalties..depending on how big the moment is? No wonder people cant agree on what is or isnt a penalty.
The whole concept of “not in that situation” is ridiculous. If it’s a foul in the 1st quarter of a week 1 game then it’s a foul in the 4th quarter of a one-score playoff game.
@@timsharkey1993THANK YOU... where was all this talk about "the moment" when Brady threw an INT and Dee Ford was offsides?!?!.. Hypocrites
The rules are the rules and should never be situational. Yeah, it's infuriating when your team gets called for something and it leads to points or your team fails to make its down, but you can't cherry pick "when." Imagine if they decided not to make calls in the 4th quarter. What does everyone think would happen? I know. Players would start slowly but then increase every illegal play. It'd turn into a free-for-all, and players on both sides would get hurt. You can't have a kids playing in the playground scenario where kids argue: "I was in!" "No you were out!" We need the rules.
@songsayswhat I've never seen so many grown men act like 4-year-olds on social media when a call is made in favor of the Chiefs. If Buffalo wins today I will not be on the internet complaining.
And I have been a Chiefs fan my entire 31 years in existence.
To sum it up its not rigged its just awful officiating and we’re not going to fix it
And how do they fix it? Do some research on league training, grading or reviewing rules.
There is ways to fix it by giving logic fixes and not screaming rigged every time the team you hates gets a favorable call. Every team gets them some Just capitalize on them others don’t.
I think any 15 yard penalty should be reviewable. How the rules are written, any contact to a QBs helmet is not reviewable. The refs are seeing things in real time. They are going to make mistakes.
Wrong...
Same thing in the nba Refs Are human there not watching tv like us They can’t see the whole play
when you marry your sport to gambling you are going to get this talk regardless
i love how everyone ignores they literally changed the post season rules for josh allen when mahomes lost in the exact same way to brady. yall make no sense
Yup, it's ridiculous
Everybody excuses him because the 13 second game "wasn't his fault". NOBODY keeps that same energy when it comes to Patrick not getting the ball back. It's always: "bRadY BEaT maHOmEs". Patrick was the better QB both of those games. The Patriots game was a prequal to the 13 seconds game. He had to get a field goal in 30 seconds to tie it.
The owners voted to change this rule, including Chiefs ownership. It was a bad rule.
You forget that the rule change was proposed multiple times including after that Brady Mahomes game. It wasn’t until 13 seconds that it had enough support. And it was the right call to change it anyway
🎯🎯🎯 Also look at the ref who went to the sideline to apologize to Allen for missing a call! 🤦♂️
If you think it’s rigged then go ahead and bet your house on the chiefs…you’ll win right??
That's why they have a point spread, ding dong.
@@skitown11And how so point speads favor the refs calling penalties? Have point spreads gone up due to KC ‘getting more calls’? Do you have ANYTHING to back this up other than your feelings?
I’ve been betting on the NFL for years and I can honestly say I’ve made the most money on the Chiefs. Not only are they insanely good, but more often than not, late in games, Mahomes gets some great calls. As far as this idiot being interviewed, he’s never going to tell the truth.
Betting my cawk
@skitown11 Just bet the moneyline, little less pay out but no point spreads to deal with.
I officiate baseball, softball, and basketball. I and everyone I work with do not care who wins the games. And for the record, none of us has ever perfectly officiated a game. No one that I know at least.
But I can tell you, we strive for excellence...at least all the good officials I know do. So yes, there are some officials out there at lower levels who only do it for the money and don't care about the aspects of what one needs to do to achieve and get promoted. Unfortunately.
Go ahead and try processing information at game speed, at eye level, while running and expecting to understand not only the letter of the law ruling but also the spirit of the rule. Its not as cut and dried as one might think when the action isn't in slo-mo on a big screen.
Mike perrera works for the NFL. What is he supposed to say? This is the same person who defended the tuck rule. 😂
He works for FOX, actually, but hey you fools don't care about facts, so carry on!
FOX, actually, but hey, who cares about facts right? That is the theme of the week, isn't it?
@@wavion2right, but Troy Aikman’s opinions are valid I guess because it’s on ESPN or something?
It literally was a rule in the books at the time. A stupid, dumb, idiotic rule, but it was a rule nonetheless.
@@thatstheway2429Jesus the dudes comment cleared your dome by a mile. Mike works for Fox dingus lol he’s not saying his point is invalid because he’s at Fox haha he’s replying to the guy above who said Mike works for the NFL 😂
While it is possible that the calls refs make regarding Mahomes may be slightly different, why do we immediately think that the difference is a conspiracy or bias? Might it be that the defenders are especially motivated to take him out - to dive at his head and hurt him and try to take him out of the game because they know he is a perennial winner?
Lets ask someone who doesn't get paid by the NFL
He gets paid by fox not the nfl. Hasn’t worked for the nfl in 15 years
....or understand officiating. Let's get Jimmy from the hot dog stand.
Works for fox
I don’t get paid by the NFL. Look at the stats. They’re absolutely not being favored. Mahomes isn’t even in the top 15 of roughing calls, lol.
Yah chase twitter and Reddit are full oh smart people. You just hate the chiefs. Admit it
I have seen plenty of bad game calls go against the Chief's and many other teams.
Love how people who say it’s impossible never mention Tim Donaghy
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Rogue referee? Yes, he was a degenerate gambler. But what's the probability that there are more, in the era of legal gambling?
@@justinsatz exactly, 100% 💯
@@goo8295yeah just a rogue referee, his crew had no idea. The 100+ calls a year he made to his crewmembers directly after he called his bookie were just about lunch. Nothing to see here…
@@goo8295very high considering how prevalent gambling is today. Hysterical that you and others don’t see that.
Ed Hocculi is quoted as saying to Cam, "You're not old enough to get that call," after a clear roughing.
Refs cannot see everything, all calls should be reviewable to make sure the call is correct.
I agree, but that could also take up a lot of time. They made PIs reviewable and it was a failure.
All penalties is probably excessive. But 15 yard roughing, etc. penalties probably should be automatic like turnovers or touchdowns. Those can change the outcome of drives, if not games. And this is something New York could do in less than a minute.
It only takes a few seconds for a booth review if a specialized official is watching every replay.
This is what the UFL does, any call can be challenged, and it doesn’t take nearly as long to review a play as the NFL does.
That’s the last thing we need is all calls to be reviewable
I don’t believe the refs have preferential treatment for Mahomes I think it’s probably more that the Chiefs are always in the national spotlight so every little thing is under a much bigger microscope than the vast majority of the NFL. I also think Mahomes is a kinda slick when it comes to trying to feign going out or sliding and he’s also more willing to take said gamble when doing some of those plays than probably most quarterbacks to either get a few more yards or draw a foul
Mahomes understands the rules and how QB's get the preferential treatment. He just uses it to his advantage. He has a good acting coach. He's learned it from being in all those commercials.
Bruh, you nailed it because this is what i said because the Chiefs is on most primetime games it easy to see more things going on but it happens in every game with all teams.
you're 100% correct. Chiefs are actually middle of the pack this year when it comes to flags and when they're thrown. It's just that chiefs are always in spotlight games and when flags happen they 9 times outta 10 capitalize on them better than almost any team.
I've seen it both ways.... these 2 calls, both of which are up for interpretation, and calls that weren't made when a player has been injured. So it can work both ways. Plus statistically, the chiefs don't get anything like favoritism. The media should focus on the need for rule changes rather than feeding into the BS.
The officials are incredibly inconsistent.
Not necessarily rule changes, but using available technology to assist the refs to get calls right. Right now the NFL thinks trotting out a few old men (and women) is all that is necessary to call a game when 4k exists.
@@johnchedsey1306 Well said.
I think Pereira nailed it; in the live action split second world of a live game the ref sees something and makes a fraction of a second decision and call. They don't have monitors and slow mo at their fingertips. The broadcasters and everyone after the fact does. So it's easy to review a play from 20 different angels at 35 frames per second and conclude that the initial call made by the ref in the moment was incorrect. The only way the NFL can fix this is to increase the "eye in the sky" ref by running video review on more plays and pausing the game on the field to over turn the call. That will slow the game down. That is likely not good for for the game. Or give the coaches more challenges availble throughout the game. And again, that will slow down the product.... The game and the format will evolve over time as it always does
So what hes saying is the game is too fast, that they're just trying to be right. So that means they need to utilize the technology at hand and review all calls that are 15 yards and an automatic first down.
Agree but to have people say it’s rigged is pretty pathetic. I’m pretty sure those refs knew they fcked up after the game or even during half time. The thing that’s annoying is late slide hasn’t been a problem till now that Pat got a call in his favor. Allen’s been going it for years. In 2022 he has 11 roughing the passer called and 6 of those were do to late slides. Even this year he’s had 3. No one batted an eye or said a word. Now it’s a problem. Sure those calls were wrong but what could you do. Texans want to cry that the game is rigged yet don’t want to take accountability for 8 sacks, 6 dropped passes, missed field goal, missed extra point, not cover washed up Travis and so on. They hold on to those two bad calls yet never being up the bad hold call on morris or the missed face mask on Jones and it was clear as day.
At the very least allow a coach to challenge any 10+ yard penalty. Give them another challenge opportunity per game.
People would rather listen to randoms on Twitter, than the people who actually make the calls.
Cause the people making the calls are rigging the game
@@kdogsinger2509 and you still give them power by watching. Turn the TV off, stop engaging on social media, and see how things will start changing
@@kdogsinger2509😂😂😂🤡
@@kdogsinger2509no they’re not, the ransoms on Twitter either don’t understand that it’s different during live action on the field or they’re just highlighting things when it’s the chiefs and not when is other teams.
In the age of information, we’re forced to debunk stupid conspiracy theories all the time. We live in a ridiculous time.
It's easy to armchair ref when you can look at mulltiple angles in slow motion. The ref has to make the call in real time from one angle. Remember, the Chiefs had the third most penalties called on them in the NFL for 2024. Also, it's easy to go back and try to find reasons you lost. It's called poor sportsmanship.
So was it poor sportsmanship when Joe Buck and Troy Aikman disagreed with the calls in real time?
@@trjbrew Considering how Joe Buck is constantly mocked by current and former players for not really knowing the game and Aikman constantly hates on the Chiefs and praises the Bills for the same exact things he complains when the Chiefs do it? It's not poor sportsmanship, but ignorance/stupidity and bias.
The NFL should use VAR until the fans realize how horrible it is and come crawling back to human refs
Who pays Pereira? I wonder what the answer would be…. Weak
fox
I used to referee kids sports... 95% parents/fans have no idea what they are talking about regarding calling fouls; and 95% of those people think they are experts.
Did your kids sports have a sky cam which showed in 4K detail that the calls were blatantly wrong?
@@JonathonStrackIf the cameras are not used, then your point makes no sense.
@@JonathonStrack Definitely not. 🙂
those people did know..yall refs just be cheatin
@@shoota322 lol. I've personally never known a ref who tried to call a bad game... but there have been some who did cheat. Betting influenced are the only ones I know of. Anyway, I haven't done it in years. The only big-time Ref I know is an SEC football umpire.
Have a good one.
Pereira is NFL talking head, so he has no credibility. FIXED!!!
Pirrera works for Fox Sports clown...😂
He hasn’t work for the NFL in over 10 years.
Totally agree with you. NFL sending him out to help put out the fire.
Well, you're not that bright.
He's retired. Good God you people are going to do yourelves in with your fear.
The whole worries about being fired thing is such utter BS. The argument made here is that the NFL WANTS them to “miss” these calls. Thus, they wouldn’t get fired.
That's not at all what was said. Replay the clip and listen intently, i.e. listen to understand.
Are you literally a child?! Or maybe that generation who received participation awards and never learned to win in sports?
Chris Jones gets clearly held every single play of every single game and never gets called. I dont hear anyone crying about that.🤦. People are idiots.
Myth lol. We investigated ourselves and find no wrongdoing.
Exactly kinda expected after yesterday's show them talking about it you kinda knew the nfl was gonna want one of thier own on to say ahhhh it don't happen it's impossible. 😂😂
Don't have time to look out for a team yeah right how dumb do they think we are.
Im not watching the sb if the chiefs are in it why? Just to see the reffs decide how they gonna make the chiefs win. F that I rather watch an actual competitive sport where the best win.
He hasn't worked for the NFL in 15 years.
@@johnchedsey1306 Trying to explain facts to these people is akin to convincing flat earthers the world is round.
@@Mrsirwinsalottwait MrSir’sTeamDoesn’tWinALot I think you’re actually onto something!!! Here’s what you HAVE to do. Pull out all $200.00 in your savings’ account and bet the Chiefs money line against Buffalo and then roll those winnings into the SB moneyline. The NFL is rigged for the Chiefs, so why not cash in and make that cash son!?
Sounds better than the “trust me bro I have eyes” argument.
I was a hockey official and its astounding how little people understand the job or what it’s like. Refs favoring the chiefs is just not a thing. It doesn’t work that way. bad calls happen every week to all teams. Chiefs aren’t special and the numbers support that truth.
Anybody with eyes can see its fixed
@@tonyc8752Texans- missed field goal, missed xp, got sacked 8 times, were spotted 2 points
Also Texans- the 2 bad calls is why we lost
Idk if officiating was the problem.
@ The entire game is completely different when they call a fake RTP on 3rd and long... and KC ends up scoring points instead of punting. And the refs do this 2-3 times every game for KC. Extending drives that would have resulted in turning the ball over. It's the same way Donoughy explained they cheat in basketball... call 2 fouls early on their best player and force him to the bench. It has a domino effect the entire rest of the game negatively against the team they are targeting.
@@tonyc8752 name the 2-3 times. You can’t because it’s just not true. You can look at any team and find as many calls
@@nickolashenderson7816 you need to add the very poor decision by the Texans coach to go for it on 4th & 10. They should have punted. QB was sacked on the play & gave the Chiefs great field position. The Texans, including the coach, are young & inexperienced. They made too many mistakes. There are always going to be bad calls on BOTH sides. You don’t throw up your hands and stop playing. When the Texans played the Chiefs just before Christmas, they lost their composure after the horrific injury to their WR. They could have won that game, but the young QB’s play was negatively impacted. He couldn’t shake it off. Understandable, but a very similar situation happened to the Chiefs when Mahomes took out Rice for the season. However, a veteran team was able to hold it together and still win.
This whole thing is overblown. Gimme a break. Officials don't have to be perfect.
Then why do the call them “OFFICIALS” it’s ok to miss or make a bad call here and there, but this team gets these calls every single time there is a big game. It’s not just “the refs are human”. T
that is quite possibly the stupidest thing someone has said about officiating.
@@stevenstocker7425Hey... where's your comments you made about the two horrible officiating calls in the Bills/Ravens game? Oh! You didn't post comments about those? Hmmmm... I wonder why!?😂
i mean you're right --- but the argument is then why don't you allow crucial game altering penalties like these 15 yard personal foul calls be instantly reviewable by the overseers watching all the games in New York? They can make a revision if necessary and instantly transmit it to the earpiece of the head official on the field. On field refs will miss stuff, make errors, but that's why they have the whole multiple angles camera officials in an office in new york watching the damn thing.
@@TheMetalPigeonI agree. I would also give coach’s another challenge that they can use on any 10+ yard penalty.
Everyone talks about Mahomes but I don’t hear any comment on the face mask call on Goff that clearly wasn’t. Ref mistakes that favor the chiefs are overblown in the media.
ESPNs Tedd Bruschi On The Texans Complaining About The Referee’s After The Game Saturday: “I don’t think the Houston Texans understand how to win a football game like this I think there’s a big difference in class of coaching staffs and in players here. When you lose a game and you’re talking about the Officials, the Chiefs look at that and understand you never understood how to beat us.”
I think if to happened to Teddy’s team he would side with the Texans
@@donnyflippo2781 Teddy was too busy reaping the benefits of favorable officiating as a Patriot, so of course this is his response.
I guess everyone forgot about the Chiefs bitching about the refs CORRECTLY throwing a flag when they had a player offsides on offense against the Bills last season (Toney). Because that was all that Mahomes, Reid, and Kelce said after that game about a correct flag, so they're just as bad spoil sports on those sorts of things.
Texans absolutely earned that loss with 8 sacks and 3 missed kicks, and those flags weren't the difference in the game by far. But Goff and Allen both got lit up in the face worse than Mahomes did (Goff was quite likely concussed), and those weren't called. I think they need to make roughing the passer reviewable, and remove the slide rule completely. If the QB dares to run, he needs to either get out of bounds, or he loses his QB protections.
@@pfagan24 shhhh. Don’t remind them of that. They can’t be reminded of how they acted when they didn’t get preferential treatment for once lol
Okay then explain the blatant missed calls on every other qb? They never miss one on Pat. Burrow got face masked like 3 times in a crucial game against the Ravens and they swallowed the flags.
Exactly! For me it's ALL the "missed calls" that benefit the Chiefs all season long every year!
Jets fan here, I guarantee you this isn’t a Pat is special thing, last 3 years of playing QBs and Josh has gotten extremely favorable roughing calls and other calls while they were on offense. I used to watch it with Brady too. Now in the same game I have seen Zach Wilson get speared in the helmet by like Milano and literally no call and essentially ignored by broadcast. Some QBs get calls favorably it isn’t a just Pat thing.
On Burrow’s facemask I think that’s just bad reffing, they missed it with Darnold and with one of the Tampa RBs too. I think the better QBs to name on difference are QBs viewed as running QBs, Lamar gets no protection the same way Mahomes and Allen get from the refs, despite often deserving calls to be made on illegal hits
Mahomes is smart, he knows how to augment a hit against him!
they call that cheating in my world ...
Didn't realize there were so many adult toddlers in the world... "My team can't beat the Chiefs so it must be a conspiracy."
Just call them what they are. Casual football fans
Of current QB's, Mahomes is 28th in calls (while also being top 5 in QB hits). The only reason people think the fallacy of refs favoring Mahomes/KC is because idiot jealous announcers like soy boy Troy Aikman and talking heads feed their confirmation bias.
Chiefs dynasty was built by the refs (faulty officiating).
Says the Chiefs fan.
Well
There’s a lot of smoke
Every year…over and over
They are treated like they are God's and it is so wrong how they are
Well it seems like you are not accountable for your mistakes. It’s always same team getting saved
it’s not. Alot of people and athletes admits that chiefs just capitalize on the refs fucks up and y’all just blow them up. If the chiefs didn’t score a point and lost. Not a single person would be crying about it.
No it’s not! You’re focused on the Chiefs, so it feels that way! Or should I say Obsessed? Anyway, the Chiefs get many, many penalties called against them. Those 2 flags in this game should’ve stayed in the refs pockets. There Are mistakes made, but Not always benefitting K.C.
What about the Texans holding Chris J and George K the entire first half and third quarter ? The Chiefs won because they are a better team and #15 is one of the greatest ever . I live in Missouri and am a die hard fan but I would admit it if we were winning due to the zebras . I never complained when the Pats ruled the AFC ! Grow up folks its just a dam game and suck it up just like I did all the years the Chiefs were towards the bottom of the AFC and we lost a lot more games than we won ! Keep cryin haters
The mere fact that the NFL and those associated with the NFL are having to come on shows like this to dispel "Myths" is a little bit telling. It means that the majority of NFL fans are not buying what they are selling. I am not saying the NFL is rigging games, but after watching dozen of calls on critical plays (mostly 3rd down) favor the KC Chiefs something is going on. It is called a pattern. You cannot gaslight what my eyeballs see every time in the KC Chiefs are in the playoffs over the last 3 years specifically. It is more than calls involving Mahomes.
Maybe it's you've fallen for the crap over the last couple years of every outcome that you don't like is rigged against you.....I wonder who you learned that coping mechanism from🤔
Everyone's team gets favorable calls or calls that are missed. Everyone complains about the chiefs because they win. They are tired of seeing them in the always on top. So they assume that the refs favor them. It happens to every great team. Loser's mentality
So the pass interference call that allowed Buffalo to score and go up? Why is that call ignored and all we hear is KC
It happens every game with all teams.. people just over blow it because they dislike champions
The problem is that those same NFL fans do not see the bigger picture. You want QB's extra protected because what do you rather see, Lions Commanders or Bears Seahawks? The veteran starting QB's make between 1/5 and 1/4 of a teams cap. An injured QB means a lost season instantly and you would have to watch 3-6 defensive battles where people will switch channels and not come to the stadium for.
No do I agree with how they are protected? No I don't but I am not paying them north of 40m a year either.
You’re not being gaslit, you’re just emotional about the entire issue.
I don’t see any outrage from you on the Ravens pass interference or Dalton Schultz big catch where he clearly bobbled it and only got one foot down.
Why are you not evenly incensed? I guarantee if either of those things happened in the Chiefs favor you’d be arguing about how bad those calls were.
Hilarious to have this conversations when the game is over and Texans just a few weeks ago knocked Trevor Lawrence in a head hunting incident that resulted in a player suspension
The guy got suspended, fined and thrown out of the game. How on earth do these two things equate in your brain?
@@Zahok1I think if a team or player gets a reputation then the officials are hyper aware. The Chiefs OL man, Taylor, has a rep for holding & offsides. He is one of the most penalized players in the NFL because the refs know to watch him. The Texans have been in the news over the Trevor Lawrence injury, thus the refs are watching the Texans particularly close.
The Chiefs are not favored. If you watch games besides the chiefs. You see bad calls and missed calls all the time.
Pat is working the rules that are designed to protect him while putting himself in harms way to get a personal foul. He literally flopped later to get another one. That is different and bullshit. Lost all respect for PM now.
But these bad and missed calls go in favor of the Chiefs on every one of THEIR games
Said the blind man
@@lambowolf Oh snap, I bet Patrick is wondering why he lost the respect of some random guy on the internet. By your name I assume you are a Packers fan but beyond that you are just a dude on the internet like everyone else.
Exactly. It's a referee incompetence issue, not a grand conspiracy to rig it for one team
It doesn’t make sense for Mike Pereira to be critical of present day refs, if for no other reason that he doesn’t want to be fired. He works for Fox Sports analyzing penalties that are called and not called. If he were to be critical of today’s officiating, the NFL would not like that and could pressure Fox Sports to fire him. He is also friends with most of the refs. In quiet corners, with his friends then he says how this crew blew this, that crew blew that. We will never be privy to that.
When your QB gets sacked 8 times and the kicker misses most of his field goals, you will lose regardless of the officiating.
Agreed...both calls sucked. Its not the reason they lost.
@@timothyrobertsonmusicthe first one was understandable at full speed, but the second one was ridiculous. I'm a Chiefs fan and I'm saying that.
Those 2 penalties alone lead directly to 10 points. Chiefs won by 9. It's literally the difference in the game 🤣
They only won by 9 points because the Chiefs had a safety at the end of the 4th Qtr. They spotted the Texans those 2 points to run more time off the clock. I agree the 2nd call was particularly bad, but contact to a QBs helmet isn’t reviewable. This rule definitely needs to be changed. However, the Texans made too many mistakes. They are a young team. Poor decisions by the head coach (also inexperienced). Special teams was a disaster. 8 sacks! The Texans were out played. The Chiefs are a bunch of veterans who don’t make many mistakes & always capitalize on the other team’s mistakes.
@@denisekirk9321 no they shaved points to make vegas more money.
Imagine how incompetent you have to be for people to think you are actually a part of a grand conspiracy. Much like conspiracy theories about the government, often (but not always), incompetence is far more commonly the explanation. Thinking it is a conspiracy is giving officials too much credit in most cases.
121 officials currently have the privilege of working in the NFL. Each NFL game averages around 153 plays. Game officials are typically accurate on 98.9% of calls. They get two bad calls and everyone yells rigged. Yet there been of 200 officials since the start and not a single one of them have came forward. Not all of them have ended in good terms yet not a peep. It’s just the masses cry way too often and gambling hasn’t helped.
Bottom line. If it was your team, and this was called, you'd be all good. But it wasn't your team.....so it's a problem and favortism.
Whether it is my team or not, there is no way I put on a tinfoil hat and think there is a giant conspiracy. People who think like that just are not mentally well.
@@johnbox271 The problem in the US is that there are so many people that believe conspiracy theories. They go around thinking everything is a conspiracy. You are right, they are not mentally well!
Most people can’t get past their fandom & don’t realize the bias in their hearts
I don’t think many people think it’s a grand conspiracy but more so a subconscious bias from the refs, which I absolutely think is true.
Who wants officials to decide games? Win or lose, that sucks. Let them play, call the game the same every time, use a sky judge to get rid of missed or terrible calls within 5 seconds.
We live in the age of feelings over facts!
It doesn't matter what this guy says.
It doesn't matter if the Chiefs have the 3rd most flagged team in the NFL.
Nowadays, everyone THINKS they're an expert, in everything LOL.
If Pereira was a political reporter, he would have informed us that Biden was "sharp as a tack."
The nfl is a worse product for its officiating
Subjective calls will always be inconsistent.
Yes, which is why less of this needs to be on the field subjective. Let replay assist, assist.
@@thehobbsguy And how much extra time are you willing to sit for because of that? Oh the official needs to check, lets go to commercials!
@@mikedebruyn the USFL sky judge does it in seconds.
It's all about the ratings. Getting Taylor Swift on that TV to boost ratings for a demographic that was previously absent in the NFL.
FOX Sports’ Mike Pereira: Chiefs Favoritism by NFL Refs Is an “Absolute Myth”, SAID THE FORMER REF, DUH!!!!!
Doesn't the PGA allow people at home to call in and report an infraction? Imagine the NFL doing that? LOL!
If the league actually didn't want these penalties to be called, then they would not be called. It's as simple as that.
The fact that this continues to happen and has not changed from year to year is evidence enough for fans to be correct in their estimation that the NFL will protect their largest investments (quarterbacks) over fair/accurately called games.
Money is the name of the game, as always. That's why the NFL protected the refs, amd that is why things will not change. Not so long as NFL ratings continue to skyrocket, anyways.
Is it myth that the refs made multiple Chiefs friendly calls, never reviewed them in game, and then doubled down and claimed they were correct calls after? We always hear that football “is a game of inches” and “hinges on 1 or 2 key plays”. Media ignores the favoritism and just runs with the Chiefs dynasty narrative
@@mikesmith5657 so true. I can think of at least 14 games this year where the chiefs opponents got 15-20 bogus penalties per drive. The refs aren’t even hiding it anymore
You crying again? Go take a nap. You'll feel better.
The first was techincally a right call. The second was perhaps influenced by what happened earlier in the year to Trevor Lawrence and comments made by certain Texans' players. Both players led with their helmets and there was apparent contact. That is only speculation, however. The fact that such a judgement happens in bang-bang fashion and that there was apparent contact with a sliding player's helmet was the more likely rationale for throwing the flag.
That was the explanation given by the ref for both calls. I don't think the fans and some media folks realize any contact from the shoulder upwards is considered roughing the passer and has been called more frequently this year.
@@carlahenry1247 How is he a passer beyond the line of scrimmage?
@@phibetakefka that’s why the rules need to be fixed. Right now if there’s any contact to a QBs helmet it’s not reviewable. This makes it so difficult for defensive players. The refs aren’t perfect. I’m sure they heard the contact and then saw Mahomes’ head snap back & just threw the flags. Either allow coach’s another challenge for these types of penalties or have any 15+ yard penalty be automatically reviewed
@@denisekirk9321 But there's the thing, New York did review and said the call was correct. Both flags in fact. New York has the ability to chime in if a flag is thrown and tell them to pick it up on a lot of calls, but can't tell them to put down a flag if it was missed. Those don't get overturned and when New York chimes in prior to a challenge, the coach can no longer challenge (mainly because the rules protect them from a lost cause there).
The big problem the NFL seems unwilling to solve is that the refs have to make that split second judgement (and I personally know I couldn't get any of those calls right if I was on the field), but millions of viewers see the replay and what actually happened. There is no excuse not to expand the "sky judge" or whatever you want to call it to have someone watching monitors buzz the head ref to say "The defender led with his shoulder, not his helment" or "there was a facemask committed by #54". With gambling being so prevalent, any impression that the NFL is rigging games is going to lead to real controversy at some point in the future.
Unless it's for comedy, though, people claiming the NFL is favoring the Chiefs is a lazy boring take.
#1 Refs can talk about a flag and pick it up.
#2 you're talking about quick judgement? The flags thrown on interceptions against the jets and vikings last year were thrown AFTER THE BALL WAS INTERCEPTED. SUSPECT AT THE VERY LEAST.
#3 you can't watch the falcons game from this year and tell me the pass interference no call in the end zone wasnt malicious, after they used a pass interference to extend the chiefs drive against the bengals. Pull up all the penalty stats you want. You can get penalties when they don't matter, and you can affect a game with one call or no call. I watch the games. Call it favoritism, call it money being made from sports betting, call it a script or rigged, the texans were right saying they knew they have to beat the refs too. It's unfair. people can believe what they want, but the evidence is out there, and people are getting sick of it
No one's reading this jumbled nonsense. Salty I'm sure
how about instead of just choosing a handful of plays you actually do a full spreadsheet of everything because it is out there, and these lies and myths you are spreading have already been proven wrong. But sure Us Chiefs fans love it when you all complain because it is just hard to admit that your teams sucks and you have to watch them lose every year.
there is actually data that breaks down penalty scenarios and it just doesnt support your claims. facts matter and when you add in variables like feelings, the data gets skewed and biased. chiefs fans are all too familiar with the heartbreak when calls 'dont go our way' and when you separate yourself from the emotion of winning and losing, it becomes clearer that these are judgement calls and the majority of the time they are mostly correct. I believe there is room for improvement and one of the things ive thought of and seen others mention would be 15+ yard penalties getting reviewed automatically.
@CornholeSteve too many adults taking about their feelings. Well said
Of course Mike Pereira is going to say that. Did you honestly expect him to say "yeah, all those calls favoring the Chiefs are exactly how we drew it up, deal with it"? WTF
Pereira was also formerly both a college football and NFL ref. He is protecting his profession exactly like a former wrestler would say, "All wrestling matches are real, not staged! All claims that wrestling is staged and fixed is an absolute myth!"
idiocy
Funny. His response is directed directly to you.
Lmao your all funny. Keep crying cause your team sucks.
🤡 of the first order
When you have to acknowledge it then it’s true😒
Amazing, could not even see Roger Goodell’s lips move when Mike was talking.
"We have investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong."
The love affair with the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes is enough to make you gag and not watch the NFL anymore… it’s absolutely ridiculous
Then don’t
Then don't watch simple
@@helicopterhelicopter3575 yeah you’re right and when 20 million other people feel the same way watch what happens
Cope
NFL ratings are going down. People are tired of the same old script with the chiefs.
Here's the only thing you need to know... how much has anybody heard about the worst missed call of the games this past weekend... the DPI called on the Ravens that should've been an OPI that cost the Ravens D a Bills TD? You haven't heard a peep! Why? Because nobody cares about any other bad calls UNLESS it's against the Chiefs😂
Kc recovered a fumble after a false start call literally killed the play to win a game this year. They switched it to a live ball foul and brought the plsy back to live ball. Only kc gets that
It wasn't a "false start", it was an illegal shift" which is not a dead ball foul...the opposing team has the choice to decline...and KC did since the result was a fumble
@jamesanderson5626 true it wasn't a false start.. It was CALLED A FALSE START on the play.
When the ref calls a false start the play is dead at the snap. Are players supposed to ignore false start calls from now on just because that one time they ignored their own false start call? Would you explain how it was a live ball after they called false start which always kills the play at the snap?
Please learn football. You embarass yourself.
@chopsieflores4844 so just insults and no dispute of facts? When the official calls false start. The play is dead at the snap. It doesn't matter if another foul occurs or if there's a fumble because the play is dead immediately when they call false start.
@@jamesanderson5626 I didn't say it was a false start. It was a false start call on the field. How can a false start call result in a fumble?
The NFL is talking out of both sides of its mouth with that response! The officials definitely have a hard job calling things in real time but USE the technology you have available and start reviewing and overturning the calls that are incorrect!
No one get more calls than flopping Mahomes, roughing calls need to be subject to review
😢stop crying
Josh Allen has more roughing calls than Mahomes btw. Mahomes has 31 and Allen has 38. So, either you're stupid, or you made that up.
@@namedvenus158instead of just making a de facto statement, why don’t you prove it? Calls are missed that should have been made and calls are made that shouldn’t have been called in every single game. To make such a ridiculous statement like you just made without proof shows your bias and paranoia. Do some real research over a number of games that are an adequate sample size for the season. Then show your proof. If you’re too lazy to do that, then your opinion means nothing.
@ Not sure if you're talking to me or not, but in case you are, here's how I got my numbers:
Step 1: open the search engine of your choice
Step 2: Search "roughing the passer penalties by QB"
Step 3: Click on any link, at which point you will realize that Patrick Mahomes has 31 roughing the passer penalties to Josh Allen's 38
By your argument of calls being missed and some being made that shouldn't, in theory those would cancel out, with a large enough sample size. If there was some uneven treatment to Mahomes, you'd expect him to have the most roughing penalties, but he doesn't. It's actually the media's darling, Josh Allen, who flops arguably more than Mahomes (though I won't get into this, as it is subjective, which you expressed your displeasure for in your previous comment).
No sir. I thought I was replying to @1RAYGC. He offered no proof other than a statement. I’ve done fairly extensive research on this subject too and the whole “Chiefs get all the calls” conversation is bogus and can be proven pretty easily. The truth is that the haters aren’t interested in anything that disproves their narrative. They’re too disingenuous to just admit they’re tired of the Chiefs winning all the time and beating their team all the time. I guess whatever makes them sleep better at night.
The bills get way more calls than anyone. Chiefs actually have more penalties called on them.
It isn’t about the Chiefs get special treatment it’s about the refs missing obvious calls and allowing guys like Mahomes… yes and Allen I am a Bills fan who can admit Allen draws penalties… to draw those calls. You have a sky judge use it
Then call it the same for every quarterback. You can't tell me there's not favoritism going on when we watch it literally every weekend.
So if you're saying there are no special rules Mike Pereira then what really happening is bad officiating. But the Chiefs have been the beneficiary of bad officiating way too often.
Well said
😭😂😂
They literally arent. You can find public data of flags thrown, when theyre thrown, beneficary yards gained, on 3rd and 4th down, and in 4th qtr and you will find chiefs are avg. Thats just for this year. If you stretch it out to 2018, theyre one of the worst penalized teams in the league, even if you account for when the calls happen.
This myth that chiefs gets all the calls and nobody else, is the result of people over-watching and hyper analyzing chiefs games but ignoring or not making a big deal of those same exact calls when they happen in other games.
yeah the trend doesn't make sense though. Why is there a trend of bad officiating so often with chief games in particular? Coincidence? Really?
Don't watch Chiefs games watch your favorite team sit on the couch 😴 🙄
Stevie Wonder can see the bias towards the Chiefs and Mahomes that the refs show every game. Joe Burrow nearly got decapitated in his last game against the Ravens this year and there was no flag to be seen. A defensive player looks at Mahomes the wrong way and it's flags for days. The Bills will have to beat the Chiefs by 4 touchdowns. Otherwise if it's close teams have no chance against the Chiefs.
The NFL does not want Swiftys to quit watching ,think of the money (Swifty s)they spend . Always follow the money.
Chiefs get more calls called on them at the numbers 😂😂
Can we post this everywhere??? So all the idiots can hear
NFL ain’t taking no risks with their legalized gambling profits.
The calls were clearly wrong. There's no "mmmmmm" about it. Having said that, one can readily understand how it happens. My son was a hockey referee and so I get the speed, human judgement, etc. variables. And yes, they want to get it right (putting aside those corrupt NBA refs for a moment). But here we're on the very highest level of a multi-billion dollar, national-attentive sport with titles and careers on the line. A review of 15 yarders seems to be the only way moving forward.
YOU say they were CLEARLY wrong. They guy who gets paid to call it disagrees. But I agree with review on the 15 yarders and booth call downs on missed facemasks.
Favoritism may be a myth, but incompetence is not.
It’s not a mistake if you do it every week for the sam team.
Pat has had 5 roughing the passer all year Allen’s has 6. In 2022 Allen had 11 and yea some of those were bad calls and due to late slide. Y’all never said a word lol crazy yall screamed rigged about to calls yet if the Texans would’ve won not one of you would say anything lol
He was part of the system... of course, he's going to deny it.
We know. They know. How IT works.
People don’t like anyone or any team that wins too much and they have to find a scapegoat!! Sports it’s always the refs 😂😂😂
Officials should face criticism by players and coaches without being subject to fines. If you suck at your job, you deserve to be criticized not coddled
NFL officials are usually very old men. The game is too fast for them.
Which points even more to the point that it isn't doctored.
NFL officiating, Wall Street, and congress are the 3 jobs with the least accountability
My eyes aren't lying. Chiefs get all games called favorably
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But we have super-slow-motion!
Sometimes the refs get it wrong and make bad calls, sometimes the ref make the right call, but people dont like it because of how it affects the game at that moment..but to suggest the refs pick out a team and decide to always make sure that team wins is just paranoia and conspiracy, generally based on sour grapes.
can definitely say you don't know how hard it is whe you havent done it...but with rules set in place, saying people who haven't been refs don't know about officiating is completely dumb.
anyone who looks at what the rules are can learn, refs aren't the only ones who know them
shame Vegas is such a big player in sports these days.
Don't piss on my head and tell me it's raining
This is what gaslighting looks like Rich.
You are just WRONG
Cheffers definitely at the bottom of the ref list.
So if YOU can't do the job you have because it's too hard, then make penalties reviewable.
When everyone in the World knows it's wrong, then it should be overturned. It's not rocket science.
121 officials currently have the privilege of working in the NFL. Each NFL game averages around 153 plays. Game officials are typically accurate on 98.9% of calls. They get two bad calls and everyone yells rigged. 😂
NFL deploying the spokesman to do damage control. This would not be a national discussion if only a certain people are calling it out....everyone outside of KC can see these favoritism calls.
So where were all these complaints when it was Brady? There were some, but not like this. He got calls other quarterbacks didn’t get, he cheated openly, his coach cheated openly, and all the same people who vilify the Chiefs still call him the greatest. It’s bothersome.
Brady cheated openly? Wtf?
@richard345 have you never heard of deflate gate?!?!??!
lol ya we’re all stupid.
stop it KC fans. enough with saying that all calls happen to all teams every week. There’s a reason why this is such a hot topic and it’s not because millions of people are out of their minds or clueless. You actually think that everyone is crazy and making it up? Kansas City gets calls in their favor that are not just small 5 yard calls. The calls they get are 15 yarders or calls that keep a drive alive when they miss on a third down.
except….. it DOES happen every week. With every team. You can deny facts and evidence, of which you’ve provided none, but that doesn’t make you right.
@ calls happen every week... Yes.... But not game-deciding calls that go in 1 team's favor. THAT'S the issue man
@ - please identify the game changing calls that the Chiefs got last week
The first RTP penalty led to 3 points which made it 6-3.
The second RTP would’ve been 2nd and 6 for KC - hardly the game altering penalty many claim it to be
I understand Mikes point of view but if you watch numerous chiefs games at pivotal points the chiefs get the benefit of the calls. It’s BS
Mainstream Media is really reeling😂😂😂😂
They took the word of the sore losers and HoF colour commentator struggling to come to terms with a QB having a more historic dynasty than his Cowboys dynasty and went with it as the main narrative.
"I bent over backwards to defend my people". Are these grading on refs he mentioned available to the public? Their stats should be kept just like plays stats.
121 officials currently have the privilege of working in the NFL. Each NFL game averages around 153 plays. Game officials are typically accurate on 98.9% of calls. They get two bad calls and everyone yells rigged.
They’re forgetting to play on the sidelines where Mahomes was baiting the defense if I wanna see flopping, I’ll watch LeBron
Or just watch Josh Allen👍
No flag
This is fascinating. If you really have 1/26th of a second to make a game deciding decision then that's not realistic. It's not fair to the refs.
So uie technology to help make the right calls, not the fast calls.
Bullshit - you are in the bag for the chiefs - it’s all about money
Then why favor the Chiefs? Why not the Cowboys? The leagues most valuable asset? Don't go to the Swift route they were in 2 Super Bowls before that.
@ the chiefs sell tickets and get viewers. And yes - it is the Taylor Swift thing. It’s the quest to 3 peat. It all sells tickets. Also doesn’t hurt that the chiefs ownership help create the afc. That’s why the championship is the Lamar Hunt trophy. The league is in the bag for the Chiefs
I'm sorry you feel so bad about your team losing. It's hard to accept when you are so young but when you play sports, they will teach you something great called sportsmanship.
@@WayneVidzicki Bullshit. The NFL doesn't need any gimmicky to sell tickets. Revenue and TV ratings are higher than ever. The "league" is the 32 owners, each with a vested interest in winning. Do you really believe they had a meeting a few years ago and decided to let the Chiefs win 4 Super Bowls, including a 3peat, in 6 years? You really think a guy like Jerry Jones would agree to that? These guys are billionaires with super-sized egos who want to win as much as the players and coaches do. The Chiefs win because they outplay and outcoach their opponents when the game is on the line, no rigging or officials' assistance necessary.
@WayneVidzicki That's just cope dude. If it was rigged, you wouldn't need a vhs to watch the last Dallas or SF super bowl win.