Here is a simple rule change that can fix the flopping: once the QB RUNS PAST THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE he is now no different than a running back and should be treated as such.
that's already what the rule is, that's just not how it's enforced. when the QB is a ball carrier past the line of scrimmage, he is a "runner", same as an RB or a TE/WR on a jet sweep style handoff. only difference is that roughing can still technically be called on those players but never is while it's called on QBs all the time. it's a consistency issue not a rule issue.
@tony.bickert can't wait until the moment of impact to initiate a slide, it's a trap, if you don't give up with more than enough time for defenders to avoid contact EASILY the slide shouldn't matter.
Mahomes is making too much money for the NFL to allow him to get injured, especially in the playoffs, they have to protect the golden child at all costs.
I remember how players like Elway, Riggins and Marshawn would pride themselves on being tough and breaking tackles, now we see guys flopping and throwing their hands up for a flag before the plays even over. Oh how the game has changed
Yeah, this makes you sound pro-CTE bud. The game has changed. I was brought up on this type of football too but with proof players are getting permanently mentally injured playing this way, the rules and the game has changed. I just want the same rules for everybody…which doesn’t happen against the chiefs.
They were both booth reviewable, and were... but the NFL rule states that if any helmet to helmet contact is made in the review, then the booth is not allowed to overturn the call.
15 yards does not make an 11 point difference (Chiefs gave them two points with the intentional safety). There were also several iffy calls and no calls that went the Texans' way but people only complain when it benefits the Chiefs because they're of their success and suffer from severe confirmation bias and Chiefs derangement syndrome.
and that is the issue with the NFL now. They have designated QB's as non-hittable. The QB's and teams are using this rule to gain offensive superiority knowing the defense cannot hit or touch the QB in a normal football manor. If Josh Allen couldn't run without getting blasted would he be as good as he is? What about Jackson? The #1 way to stop opposing offenses was to get to the QB. That's been taken away.
But the problem is that there are very clear differences in how officiating is handled quarterback to quarterback. It isn’t about player safety, Rich, because if it was there wouldn’t be such clear discrepancy. Mahomes plays into it, baiting players into penalties, and it’s disgraceful.
It blows my mind that the NHL officials review major penalties to see if they got it correct, and if they didn't, that correct the call before dropping the puck for the next play, yet the NFL won't do it for every personal foul penalty called. The NHL has made many changes in order to shorten their games, but when it comes to getting major penalties correct, they don't care if reviewing the penalty adds to the length of a game. The NFL needs to do this. Period.
Great point. I love the way the NHL reviews major penalties. Even if it takes an extra minute or two, get the call right. It's crazy that it takes leagues so long to make these changes. I remember for years complaining that they should use technology to look at goals/non goals in the NHL with replay, and then they did it. Problem solved.
The NHL takes forever and half the time they make the wrong call. Mahomes embellishes and plays to get a penalty. The way to stop that is not through officials. The way to stop it is for the players to level him out and take the 15 and make him think twice the next time. Set the tone
I’m a Chiefs fan and I agree. I think we would have beaten them handily regardless but I guess we’ll never know and this noise takes away from how good they are. Chiefs are clearly better than Texans. Best team won.
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I don't know ... I HATE lousy officiating -- especially when it reflects inconsistent "double standards" depending on the team(s) involved and/or chronically always "seems" to help one favored team over and over and over again. That said, having also been a high school football official in multiple different states earlier in life, I know full well that officiating is NOT "easy," nobody gets it "right 100& of the time" or "never makes a mistake," and the vast, vast majority of officials DO their best to be accurate, fair, and objective. That's at least my high school football officiating experience across multiple jurisdictions ... I'd like to think they are universal, but whether they actually are at the college and NFL/pro level is something I can't answer. Sadly, it's definitely true that greater economic pressures and influences that can compromise fair officiating exist at the college and NFL levels, where organized gambling involving LOTS of $$$$$ wagers runs rampant (indeed, the NFL has now even invited/sponsored professional gambling and sports books intoNFL stadiums!!!) But the above discussion aside, here are some necessary comments/observations necessary to the notion of "quick replay review" on "all 15 yard penalties:" 1. You can't limit it just to 15 yard penalties -- SOME "mere" 5 yard penalties are virtually JUST AS impactful and pivotal to scoring and/or sustained drives as are 15 yard penalties (e.g., defensive holding as opposed to DPI still carries anb automatic 1st down and new set of downs) 2. You also routinely need to include ALL turnover/not expected change of possession plays 3. You also routinely need to include ALL questionable catches/incompletions where "bobbling," double "foot placement" in bounds, and/or "getting a body part down in bounds and under control are at issue (e.g., sideline and end of end zone passes) 4. When you add ALL these new MANDATORY review situations, it WILL slow the game down ... 5. And #4 above willhave the additional potentially "unfair adverse impact" of slowing down a hurry-up no-huddle offense and providing an advantage to the defense. In short, there are no perfect "solutions" other than to make NFL officiating a well-paid FULL TIME PROFESSION where those guys work their craft mostly all year long (including extensive review sessions) so that the game officials get SO GOOD that there are significantly fewer situations calling for review, and many fewer mistake reversals when review does occur. That new level of excellence will itself further breed greater trust and confidence in the officiating by players, coaches, and fans alike.
OK, look at the rules/officiating items up for consideration in the off-season: 1. Do we review all flagged fouls with 15-yard penalties? (It should be pointed out that in the UFL spring league, Mike Pereira is empowered to negate a personal foul flag.) 2. Do we allow replay to flag a face mask foul that was missed? 3. How did the dynamic kickoff go? Do we keep it, modify it or dump it? 4. Onside kick: Is it time to replace it with a 4th-and-15 (or other yardage) play? What I'd like to see replace it is an untimed down, an "extra point" from the 15-yard line. If successful, the ball goes back to the 50, and the clock starts with the snap. If unsuccessful, the defense gets the ball at the 30. (If the defense gets possession, the "try" is over; no runback for points.)
The most money is on the Chiefs to win the SB, significantly more than any other team… therefore if the games were rigged for gambling purposes Vegas would want the Chiefs to lose.
@@aaronmorrison7716 LOL. Thats a great idea, until you watch the Chiefs(+9.5) punter run out of the back of the endzone with 10 seconds left, turning an 11 point win to a 9 point win.
Honestly would be surprised if Brady was protected (for all of his career at least); Goodell hated Brady and the Patriots by the time their dynasty ended.
Josh Allen is the biggest flopper in the league. Since he’s been in the league he’s had the most roughing the passer calls for him. Also, could you imagine if the Ref would have gone over to the sidelines and patted Mahomes on the head!?!?!?!?!? THE INTERNET WOULD HAVE MELTED!!!!
@@bigtimetimmyjim6486the nfl loved the patriots. Huge market. Kraft almost single handedly secured the first massive tv contracts that made the nfl what it is today. Right after those contracts are inked, there’s a dynasty. The NfL loved New England. Goodell started getting pissed when BB wouldn’t quit pushing the boundaries and cheating. Actual cheating. Multiple times.
I think the main problem people have is that there are 2 plays that Mahomes wasn’t hit in the helmet and they were called penalties, and Goff and Allen were both hit helmet to helmet and neither were called. This isn’t the first time this has happened and I think that is what most people are upset about
@@malcolm2553 Even if right on the one (of 2) plays, the point still stans that he is getting favorable undeserved calls while others aren't getting rightful ones, which gives off the impression of favoritism.
I'm not a Texans fan but I know what you mean. I just want to watch the game and not be blown away by BS calls favoring one team consistently. Don't see it with any other teams in the playoffs. Well, the Rams used to get quite a bit of love...
@dcb6729 omfg give up dude no one agrees with you. The first hit was clean to the shoulder and the Texans players collided on the second one. Neither were illegal, i would argue that Mahomes made the second play more dangerous on purpose, and they need to do something about the rule of qbs going down like that and expecting a flag. Bad football
How many times this season alone was Joe Burrow facemasked and it wasn't called. Blatent facemasks. But breathe on precious Patty, he flails and flops, and the zebras are ready to eject the entire D-Line. It's an absolute disgrace and the NFL deserves every bit of criticism they receive. Do fans outside of KC even respect Mahomes at this point?
“The officials will always err on the side of safety when making these calls.” But we have eyes, and we have seen that other QBs don’t get these calls. Joe Burrow can get face-masked and no call. Fields gets destroyed on slides all the time and no call. There’s a reason it’s not just fans, but the players themselves, saying this…
Chiefs get every single call, no a single close call goes to their opponent. Every ticky tack call, especially in big moments. Mahomes has the most INTs called by from penalty then any other QB in history. Clearly rigged
The same Texans players who didn't mention their special teams blunders, lack of ability to pick up a blitz, emotional tirades causing 15 yard penalties and lack of execution??? lol ya I don't think players are smart either
I've seen Mahomes helmet turned sideways on a facemask…no call. Play blown dead "Forward progress" called on a QB strip sack. Chris Jones called for RTP for touching Brady's helmet. CJ also called for RTP after stripping the ball having possession and falling on Derek Carr with his only other arm extended to cushion the fall. I'm all for reviews. Bring it.
People just hate the gamesmanship. When you’re making flops, calling phantom roughing the passer penalties, and have Mahomes looking at the refs with a whining face whenever he gets touched it gets on peoples nerves. This is football, not the NBA or soccer.
It's not just Mahomes though, it's all the QBs that do this. It's only because people only watch their team and then whoever the Chiefs are playing, that they think it's a problem unique to Mahomes.
@@loganleroy8622every other QB this weekend respectfully goes out of bounds when they’re legit cornered. Also, other QBs follow the unwritten rule of “if you put your head down, you’re a runner and are looking for contact. Look at Baker’s run in his playoff game, thats how its done.
Josh Allen is the flopper of all floppers. The same people complaining about Mahomes doing this are also shouting MVP about Allen. It’s classic double speak.
Im glad that the media & people are calling out these horrific calls.. Somebody has to call out the bad officiating, and i think that it needs to be called out MUCH MORE
@@JohnnyJankovich Big surprise, a Swifty who agrees with that take. It's gotta feel weird to pretend to be happy when your team wins. Like they actually competed. I wouldn't want to be a Chiefs fan with TEN Super Bowl championships. What a way to exist. Literally, no one respects the Chiefs anymore. 😂
"The NFL wouldn't make a business decision that slightly degrades their product but gives them huge market share gains and hundreds of millions of extra dollars!" -a significant percentage of Chiefs fans
There was also a facemask called on a failed 3rd down against the Texans that kept another scoring drive alive for the Chiefs which was, for lack of a better description, a ghost call. Air ball. No touching of the facemask at all. All shoulder. Officials are making assumptions, and they need to be able to look at replay on these. It's determining game outcomes.
That's how they fix the games. You are seeing it with your own eyes. They don't want judgement calls reviewed cuz judgement has been made on who should win.
Sports gambling advertising is getting more and more pervasive and the officiating is getting worse and worse. It's probably nothing no need to look into it or change anything.
@@n00blike Tim Donaghy... Also look on the 2002 WCF game 6 between the Lakers and the Kings.. LA got like 26 or 27 free throws in that game, and they were able to beat the Kings to force game 7 in LA. Rigged AF against Sacramento.
@@CalebsCars But now the league(s) are partners with the gambling enterprises. The legal market targets young males especially. In countries where this is longer established (Australia and UK) bankruptcies and suicide rates have spiked. It's not just you seeing ads. It's what you don't see, while they talk about 'gamble responsibly
@ you do know that pre snap a ref is designated to look right down the line. if the announcers can see it. everyone watching the game can see it, then its hard to make the argument that the ref whose job it is to look for illegal formations and false starts cant see it.
They haven't called hip drop tackles all year and they aren't going to. There were a TON in the Texans/Chiefs, Bills/Ravens, and just about every other game.
Because the league hasn’t been flagging those, they have instead chose to deal with it by fining guys. I think they actually have a good system for this.
Not players safety . Player saftey. It's singular . It's only about Mahomes and this Swift ,3 peat narrative they are loving . It's a wink ,wink ,nod,nod type of situation . Not a league notice put in ink ,or digital . Game is of inches ,it's easy to sway when you get extra 1st downs every dingle week .
I can safely say that if you look at the NFL, Rodger Goodell has turned the league away from sports competitions to sports entertainment. Pure and simple. RG has turned the NFL into the WWE.
Without "entertainment" there is no MONEY you m0r0n. He's turned the NFL into the most valuable sport, by a mile. He's done his job. All his terrible ref'ing is just to take your mind off the fact that a game that should last 45 minutes takes nearly 4 hours due to all the stupid commercial breaks. Starting this year, you don't even get to see a replay of a nice play, they just immediately go to commercial.
Then the refs should be allowed to talk about how terrible the players are for missing field kicks and missed catches and tackles.. and you crybaby fans better not cry about that too either … But I’m pretty sure you would 👶🏼🥹😂
except Chiefs do not get stripped of multiple first rounders and got witch hunted for 12 years to let the other Golden Boy, Peyton Manning won a couple of Super Bowls
5th down vs bengals, I can probably name 10 games in the past few years handed by officials to the chiefs. They aren’t even that good these last few years which is why it’s so egregious
@ very good point. With the roughing the passer one it actually was reviewed and they said because there was contact with mahomes helmet it would stand. The other late hit one after Mahomes slide when you slow it down the big guy ducked his head lower to try and hit Mahomes. After he recognized the slide.
@tamacmcmillan3518 Really? So quick question... how many times have you posted pissed off comments about the biggest missed officiating call from this past weekend? The DPI on the Ravens that should've been an OPI... Bills actually scored a TD after that terrible call and it literally cost the Ravens the game! I bet my house you haven't made a peep about that one have you😅 Why? Because it's not about ther bad officiating... it's because you've got a hard on for the Chiefs... sorry kid.. you lose!🤣
If they didn’t change the tush push, they won’t change Mahomes running out of bounds. If you want him to change his run style, just start lighting him up. He will stop after enough hits.
@@JUICEfromtheBOXv2 totally agree. Even if it cost 15 yards and an ejection it would be worth “cleaning his clock” at least once per game. As far as I’m concerned he, as well as the refs, has himself a target. If he gets injured severely because of it then it’s his fault.
Yeah but he still speaks out though and wants this corrected clearly. Maybe the way he brought it is careful, but the fact that he's saying it as NFL network employee weighs more than some random sports writer.
Mahommes is a flopper. Remember how we used to laugh about floppers in football's nearest rival, soccer? When I played football, it was partly to show how tough you were. You didn't run out of bounds to avoid contact. You didn't slide to avoid getting hit. You didn't pretend to be hurt in order to get a penalty. Mahommes, and by extension, Reid, have lost the respect of anyone who loves football. He should be laughed out of the league.
Same thing in the Buffalo game on Deion Dawkins he pushed him to the ground. And they called that BS holding. Refs are too old and the NFL needs to get them seeing eye dogs apparently. 😂
@ Have eyes is not the only thing that makes something a fact. People see what they want, it's called confirmation bias. You would need to analyze every play of every team on all phases of the ball.
When you give replay assist the ability to see AND SHOW everyone that a call is wrong, but DON'T give them the ability to change it, it's the worst of both worlds.
When the number of people betting on the NFL games drops to historical lows, and Vegas starts complaining to the league office will something be done about poor officiating.
The Biggest problem isn't that they keep getting the calls its when they keep getting the calls, its the fact that for at the very least 3 seasons in a row not only are the fans saying there is something going on but also the players and coaches are acknowledging it as well. This is all good and well, you could just chalk it up to players and fans upset they lost but when everyone is saying the same thing over and over and over and over again that stops being a coincidence. Not saying they are actively taking bribes/told what to do or whatever but could just be a bias that refs have for the team.
Blaming the refs is for kids & losers.🤷♂️ every game has bad calls & missed calls, we just notice more when they are in the favor of the team that wins...and the Chiefs Win a lot...but did the refs cause the returner to get 63 yards on the kick off, or the Texans to miss a fg, get one blocked & miss an xp?...did the refs sack C.J. 8x & some in crucial situations? Folks are getting delusional 😂
@ oh get over yourself you guys are becoming insufferable and obnoxious. They won every game this year by like a point or two. If the games were called fairly they would be a .500 team. Only reason they have hung in there is the defense and Andy Reid Mahomes has played like crap. But you’ll keep bumping your gums same ones you eat bunless hot dogs with extra mayo with
This problem was fixed years ago in the USFL and now also in the UFL. Every single play is watched by an official in the booth and they review each penalty that is called. The on field refs and the ref in the booth are on open mics and those fans in the stands and watching on TV can ALL hear what the refs are saying. The head ref on the field almost always gets confirmation from the chief official in the booth. There are two officials that trade off in watching the UFL games and one of them is none other than Mike Pereira. He's a former NFL ref, served as the Vice President of officiating for the NFL and is currently the head of officiating in the UFL. It was him that Aikman consulted about the bogus penalties and he said those flags should have been picked up. In the UFL Pereira would have told the on field refs to pick both of those flags up. With the open mics and the booth overwatch, the UFL goes out of its way to make the games clean and fair, but sometimes the refs on the field and the ref in the booth miss something and the coaches on the sidelines have a super challenge they can make at any time for anything, even for an infraction the refs failed to call. So if an offensive lineman moves or sets up too far back off the line and it doesn't get called, (a problem KC's right offensive tackle is guilty off frequently and often isn't called), the coach can throw his red flag and challenge that there was an infraction they didn't call. The guy in the booth reviews the play and if he sees the coach was right, the penalty is then called and marched off. The coach with a successful challenge gets to keep his challenge. The challenge can be made only if the team has a time out. A failed challenge costs a timeout and the team gets no more challenges. I'm a huge fan of the Spring league. It reminds me of football back in the 70s when players didn't get $50 million a year and played for the love of the game, when tickets were affordable for the blue collar worker and his family. I stopped counting at SIX the times the refs made key calls in the waning moments of the 4th quarter that helped Mahomes' and the Chiefs keep a last drive alive and win the game. 1 time, even 2 is understandable but when it is six and counting, that's not human error anymore. That's deliberate game fixing. With the NFL gambling crap being pushed, there is too much room for game fixing. The NFL has become the WWE. The Chiefs should have had at least a 10-7 or even a 9-8 record, NOT a 15-1 regular season record if the UFL officiating procedures were in play in the NFL. Now with the playoff win over Houston, the Chiefs have at least 7 cheap, cheating victories thanks to refs fixing the games. Mark my words, the Chiefs will beat the Bills and the refs will have a hand in it so that Goodell can have the Chiefs and the Swifties in the Superbowl. I'm disgusted by what has happened to the NFL. The NFL has lost me as a fan. Bring on the UFL!!!! The new season is coming soon!
It never ends, I turned off the game after that play. I'm not even mad about KC or Mahomes, not necessarily care about it too much, but every time it happens I get this feeling that I'm being laughed at and I'm just wasting my time watching a football game. And I hate it.
Yes , it’s getting out of hand with the Chiefs. I don’t mind a team winning if it’s on the up and up, but to keep manipulating the calls and getting phantom calls at key moments of the game gets to be suspect
I think that ANY penalty that results in a new set of downs should be subject to replay assist. Because a new set of downs could change the outcome of a game significantly. Obviously that's a pretty significant change, so they could start getting used to it by only implementing it in the final 2 minute warning period of a game. At least if the refs knew there was going to be a replay assist, they'd be less eager to throw a flag unless they were absolutely sure of what they saw.
The chiefs have played 11 playoff games. They’ve gotten more flags than their opponents 0 times. If officiating is theoretically even, the odds of that happening are 0.049% Either through bias or incompetence that’s so statistically improbable that there’s obviously some kind of problem that needs addressed
@@kevinrehak7373 odds should be roughly 50/50 or 0.5. For it to happen 11 straight times you’d do 0.5^11=0.000488 or 0.049%. It’s not perfect cuz it doesn’t account for the chance of even penalties or game styles/situations or whatever, but it’s a decent ballpark figure of what the probability should look like.
It isn't the number of penalties. It's when they are called. They always come at critical points in a drive, usually after a defensive stop on 3rd down. Refs will make mistakes. But when those mistakes always go in favor of one team, it leads people to question the fairness of the game.
@@kristopherloviska9042 oh for sure. I’d be fascinated to know the frequency of drive extending penalties they get compared to other teams. I think that’d be glaringly bad. I’m sure that stat’s out there somewhere, but idk where to find it
It's so common seeing defenders kinda just stand around when a QB is running toward them because they don't want to go for a tackle and get a flag. Either slide way before the nearest defender or prepared to be tackled like every other football player.
They were both booth reviewable, and were... but the NFL rule states that if any helmet to helmet contact is made in the review, then the booth is not allowed to overturn the call.
@@WillTheWeirdoCorrectomundo. There was helmet to helmet contact on both plays. At least for RTP the refs are not allowed to overturn the call if helmet to helmet contact is involved. Not sure if that goes for when the QB is sliding as well. Not a big fan of the calls, but they were absolutely correct based on the rules.
They are tired of the chiefs winning. I remember the roughing the passer they called on the chiefs in the afc championship game when Brady got smacked in the shoulder. Yet people try to say this is unprecedented and obvious rigging
When the refs miss the helmet to helmet hit on Jared Goff but call the things we saw in the Chiefs/Texans game, they deserve this scrutiny. The league and fans deserve better.
I’m glad they didn’t call the Ions QB hit, on that note QBs should move out tye way in intercepted balls. As far as the Chiefs those wrongly called penalties was at key moments of the game to keep giving the Chiefs the advantage, which has been happening way to long
The best thing for the NFL right now would be for Buffalo to absolutely decimate KC next week. If it's even close, the national rage is going to spike. The world is truly exhausted by this Mahomes/Reid/Referee era.
For what? Playing by the rules? Players and teams don’t throw the flags. How about fine the Texans for allowing 8 sacks, missed field goals, miss extra point, not covering Kelce at all and only scoring 1 touchdown?
It's literally the same mentality when you go to the casino and these guys can't stop gambling their whole paycheck and eventually they get up and start cussing out the dealer and the boat that they've been scammed out of their money when really it's because they have no self-control
As someone who wants to see the stars out there playing the game, stop leading with the crown of the helmet and you will get fewer calls. Many times, the defensive players take as much or more damage as the those they are going after. Keep your head up and maybe keep playing a little longer.
100% In the past with objectionable announcers in the booth, they would defend the refs and say that they put themselves in danger doing it. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the Texan player didn't actually sustain a mild concussion from that hit.
If quarterbacks are going to run the ball and it is part of offenses, they should be treated as running backs when running the ball. Just like when a quarterback throws the ball, there is criteria for a late hit. We see all the time a quarterback that throws the ball and gets hit after the release and it's not a penalty.
At least 3 offensive penalties on the one Texans touchdown. Including a hands to the face. No call. Go watch the replay. Not even the announcers said anything. But i guess since its not the Chi3fs, it doesnt count.
Yet josh allen flops and gets the most roughing the passer calls his way and all you low information peasants are quiet A ref goes to the sidelines and tells allen he is sorry and pats him on the should and you clowns are quiet You are just chiefs haters I guess the refs helped stroud get sacked 8 times I guess the refs helped texans kicker miss 2 fg an extra point and helped kc block a fg
@phil-Fry it ain't just chiefs games. It's been going on way before the chiefs. If you watch, it's undebatable. It sucks but it is what it is. You can try to set the narrative that people just hate the chiefs, but it's simply not the case for many fans.
I'm a Ravens fan and I wasn't even upset they lost last night. Not because I don't care if they win or lose, but because of the effed up officiating when it comes to the Chiefs. Flags where there shouldn't be for Mahomes, no flags when there should be for the other team... and the NFL comes out and says all those Mahomes flags were valid. Sure. Can't be more rigged than that and it's so obvious. The Chiefs are gonna get their three-peat no matter what, the NFL will see to that. So why be bothered if your team loses now, it's not like you have a chance to actually win the SB.
You can’t convince me it played safety when Goff and other QB’s around the league take these vicious shots and don’t get a flag!! If Mahomes took these vicious shots shot Goff and other QB’s took this year the rules would changed tomorrow!!!
@@vanjones1749 every game the chiefs play is a big game, everyone watches the chiefs even though they hate them just because they want to see them lose....CRY MORE Babies Brady almost went to jail for cheating and WAS suspended for cheating but i never heard so much complaining....
But they would've won by 1 without those horrendous flags, and probably by 4 or 8 if the refs penalize the Chiefs for that hip drop tackle. We're sick of it.
The Unnecessary roughness was really bad imo but the Roughing the passer is just a textbook 2024-25 roughing the passer call and I feel it is weird that people still get outraged about it after a year and a bit of any head contact being that call no matter how slight. Also imo media, online people, fans can all say "The refs love this team" but I hate players and coaches saying it after a loss... just looks whiney especially when anyone who is honest with themselves knows that isnt why they lost and they are just hiding behind it as an excuse
It's okay. The Senior VP of NFL officiating investigated themselves and decided the calls were good. "We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing." Lol what a joke
Chiefs actively changing NFL rules to level the playing field AGAINST them. First was overtime rules of possession after KC throttled Buffalo in overtime - next it will be this. No Tuck rule upgrades FOR Kansas City, no...
Here is a simple rule change that can fix the flopping: once the QB RUNS PAST THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE he is now no different than a running back and should be treated as such.
that's already what the rule is, that's just not how it's enforced. when the QB is a ball carrier past the line of scrimmage, he is a "runner", same as an RB or a TE/WR on a jet sweep style handoff. only difference is that roughing can still technically be called on those players but never is while it's called on QBs all the time. it's a consistency issue not a rule issue.
Running backs get the same protection if they slide, they just never slide.
Yes. That should be called the Patrick rule.
What about the slide?
@tony.bickert can't wait until the moment of impact to initiate a slide, it's a trap, if you don't give up with more than enough time for defenders to avoid contact EASILY the slide shouldn't matter.
"Personal foul. Roughing the Patrick. Automatic touch down and extra point to be awarded"
Mahomes is making too much money for the NFL to allow him to get injured, especially in the playoffs, they have to protect the golden child at all costs.
And 100 passing yards added to his QB stats
And an automatic safety on the defense for two more points and the ball will be kicked back to KC
I remember how players like Elway, Riggins and Marshawn would pride themselves on being tough and breaking tackles, now we see guys flopping and throwing their hands up for a flag before the plays even over. Oh how the game has changed
Yeah, this makes you sound pro-CTE bud. The game has changed. I was brought up on this type of football too but with proof players are getting permanently mentally injured playing this way, the rules and the game has changed. I just want the same rules for everybody…which doesn’t happen against the chiefs.
@@LuckyMike26 You think CTE is going away cause of these rule changes? Maybe for QB's, but not so much everyone else.
@KoolHandDanbingo
All 15 yard, automatic first down penalties needs to be reviewed. They are game changing.
They were both booth reviewable, and were... but the NFL rule states that if any helmet to helmet contact is made in the review, then the booth is not allowed to overturn the call.
No, they don't.
@Crob2772 They tried it with PI calls / no calls. How'd that work out?
15 yards does not make an 11 point difference (Chiefs gave them two points with the intentional safety). There were also several iffy calls and no calls that went the Texans' way but people only complain when it benefits the Chiefs because they're of their success and suffer from severe confirmation bias and Chiefs derangement syndrome.
They should become 10 yard penalties.
If a quarterback starts to run the ball, they should be treated as a running back not a quarterback.
and that is the issue with the NFL now. They have designated QB's as non-hittable. The QB's and teams are using this rule to gain offensive superiority knowing the defense cannot hit or touch the QB in a normal football manor. If Josh Allen couldn't run without getting blasted would he be as good as he is? What about Jackson? The #1 way to stop opposing offenses was to get to the QB. That's been taken away.
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True but when he starts to run he's is like a running back. but i agree with you 💯
But the problem is that there are very clear differences in how officiating is handled quarterback to quarterback. It isn’t about player safety, Rich, because if it was there wouldn’t be such clear discrepancy. Mahomes plays into it, baiting players into penalties, and it’s disgraceful.
It blows my mind that the NHL officials review major penalties to see if they got it correct, and if they didn't, that correct the call before dropping the puck for the next play, yet the NFL won't do it for every personal foul penalty called. The NHL has made many changes in order to shorten their games, but when it comes to getting major penalties correct, they don't care if reviewing the penalty adds to the length of a game.
The NFL needs to do this. Period.
Great point. I love the way the NHL reviews major penalties. Even if it takes an extra minute or two, get the call right. It's crazy that it takes leagues so long to make these changes. I remember for years complaining that they should use technology to look at goals/non goals in the NHL with replay, and then they did it. Problem solved.
It's hard to rig the games if you make the rules fair. Just saying...
because it makes it harder to control the bottom line to cheat
It will never happen there's too much money involved in the NFL it has to be rigged there's billions on the line
The NHL takes forever and half the time they make the wrong call. Mahomes embellishes and plays to get a penalty. The way to stop that is not through officials. The way to stop it is for the players to level him out and take the 15 and make him think twice the next time. Set the tone
100% agree with the idea of a quick replay review for all 15 yard penalties.
I’m a Chiefs fan and I agree. I think we would have beaten them handily regardless but I guess we’ll never know and this noise takes away from how good they are. Chiefs are clearly better than Texans. Best team won.
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I don't know ... I HATE lousy officiating -- especially when it reflects inconsistent "double standards" depending on the team(s) involved and/or chronically always "seems" to help one favored team over and over and over again. That said, having also been a high school football official in multiple different states earlier in life, I know full well that officiating is NOT "easy," nobody gets it "right 100& of the time" or "never makes a mistake," and the vast, vast majority of officials DO their best to be accurate, fair, and objective. That's at least my high school football officiating experience across multiple jurisdictions ... I'd like to think they are universal, but whether they actually are at the college and NFL/pro level is something I can't answer. Sadly, it's definitely true that greater economic pressures and influences that can compromise fair officiating exist at the college and NFL levels, where organized gambling involving LOTS of $$$$$ wagers runs rampant (indeed, the NFL has now even invited/sponsored professional gambling and sports books intoNFL stadiums!!!)
But the above discussion aside, here are some necessary comments/observations necessary to the notion of "quick replay review" on "all 15 yard penalties:"
1. You can't limit it just to 15 yard penalties -- SOME "mere" 5 yard penalties are virtually JUST AS impactful and pivotal to scoring and/or sustained drives as are 15 yard penalties (e.g., defensive holding as opposed to DPI still carries anb automatic 1st down and new set of downs)
2. You also routinely need to include ALL turnover/not expected change of possession plays
3. You also routinely need to include ALL questionable catches/incompletions where "bobbling," double "foot placement" in bounds, and/or "getting a body part down in bounds and under control are at issue (e.g., sideline and end of end zone passes)
4. When you add ALL these new MANDATORY review situations, it WILL slow the game down ...
5. And #4 above willhave the additional potentially "unfair adverse impact" of slowing down a hurry-up no-huddle offense and providing an advantage to the defense.
In short, there are no perfect "solutions" other than to make NFL officiating a well-paid FULL TIME PROFESSION where those guys work their craft mostly all year long (including extensive review sessions) so that the game officials get SO GOOD that there are significantly fewer situations calling for review, and many fewer mistake reversals when review does occur. That new level of excellence will itself further breed greater trust and confidence in the officiating by players, coaches, and fans alike.
I don't think the penalties would be overruled by replay.
OK, look at the rules/officiating items up for consideration in the off-season: 1. Do we review all flagged fouls with 15-yard penalties? (It should be pointed out that in the UFL spring league, Mike Pereira is empowered to negate a personal foul flag.) 2. Do we allow replay to flag a face mask foul that was missed? 3. How did the dynamic kickoff go? Do we keep it, modify it or dump it? 4. Onside kick: Is it time to replace it with a 4th-and-15 (or other yardage) play? What I'd like to see replace it is an untimed down, an "extra point" from the 15-yard line. If successful, the ball goes back to the 50, and the clock starts with the snap. If unsuccessful, the defense gets the ball at the 30. (If the defense gets possession, the "try" is over; no runback for points.)
People are betting on Chief games! The NFL needs to be investigated for systematic, 'official bias'!
Smart bettors, bet on the Chiefs.
The most money is on the Chiefs to win the SB, significantly more than any other team… therefore if the games were rigged for gambling purposes Vegas would want the Chiefs to lose.
No both of those calls are going for Josh Allen and Lamar I don’t wanna hear this bs it’s not true y’all grabbing for crumbs rn shut up
the nba was rigged in the 90s, the refs bet on the games, (look it up it’s real) prolly happening again rn except in the nfl and not nba
@@aaronmorrison7716 LOL. Thats a great idea, until you watch the Chiefs(+9.5) punter run out of the back of the endzone with 10 seconds left, turning an 11 point win to a 9 point win.
The problem that people don’t want to admit is that Brady might have been protected but Mahomes actively tries to bait penalties.
Quit it, TB12 HATER! He's not here anymore. You can stop hurting now.
Honestly would be surprised if Brady was protected (for all of his career at least); Goodell hated Brady and the Patriots by the time their dynasty ended.
@@bigtimetimmyjim6486 The nfl commish having personal feelings about franchises is why he is not the right person for the job
Josh Allen is the biggest flopper in the league. Since he’s been in the league he’s had the most roughing the passer calls for him. Also, could you imagine if the Ref would have gone over to the sidelines and patted Mahomes on the head!?!?!?!?!? THE INTERNET WOULD HAVE MELTED!!!!
@@bigtimetimmyjim6486the nfl loved the patriots. Huge market. Kraft almost single handedly secured the first massive tv contracts that made the nfl what it is today. Right after those contracts are inked, there’s a dynasty. The NfL loved New England. Goodell started getting pissed when BB wouldn’t quit pushing the boundaries and cheating. Actual cheating. Multiple times.
I think the main problem people have is that there are 2 plays that Mahomes wasn’t hit in the helmet and they were called penalties, and Goff and Allen were both hit helmet to helmet and neither were called. This isn’t the first time this has happened and I think that is what most people are upset about
Mahomes was hit in the helmet for one of those 2 plays, though. Ignoring that means you don't have eyes
@@malcolm2553 Even if right on the one (of 2) plays, the point still stans that he is getting favorable undeserved calls while others aren't getting rightful ones, which gives off the impression of favoritism.
If you think his helmet didn’t get touched, you’re blind
@malcolm2553 no he wasn't
He was hit in the helmet lol
Fact is that bookies are the Official partners of the NFL... They weren't when Brady was there
Tuck rule
I love this Sport and the NFL but sometimes when I see games like this, it makes me question why I still watch the NFL.
Then stop. I don't watch the NBA anymore. The game changed. I didn't like the changes so I do other stuff.
I wouldn't watch either if my team gave up 8 sacks, had a field goal blocked, missed a field goal, gave up 115+yds to a washed 35 y/o, etc, etc, etc.
I watch occasionally but once it becomes apparent that the league will assist certain teams and manipulate games, that killed it for me.
I'm not a Texans fan but I know what you mean. I just want to watch the game and not be blown away by BS calls favoring one team consistently. Don't see it with any other teams in the playoffs. Well, the Rams used to get quite a bit of love...
@@rcdesigns😅👍
If Mahomes got hit the way Goff got hit on the pick-6, the NFL would make a new rule for it
He did
It wasn't a flag on the Goff hit, because Goff was actually trying to make a play on the ball carrier after the interception.
@@aschway yes i understand and agree, just saying the NFL wouldve made it a rule if it were Mahomes
@rickycurley159 Mahomes got hit in the face mask by the crown of the Texan players' helmet. You have selective site.
@dcb6729 omfg give up dude no one agrees with you. The first hit was clean to the shoulder and the Texans players collided on the second one. Neither were illegal, i would argue that Mahomes made the second play more dangerous on purpose, and they need to do something about the rule of qbs going down like that and expecting a flag. Bad football
How many times this season alone was Joe Burrow facemasked and it wasn't called. Blatent facemasks. But breathe on precious Patty, he flails and flops, and the zebras are ready to eject the entire D-Line. It's an absolute disgrace and the NFL deserves every bit of criticism they receive. Do fans outside of KC even respect Mahomes at this point?
“The officials will always err on the side of safety when making these calls.” But we have eyes, and we have seen that other QBs don’t get these calls. Joe Burrow can get face-masked and no call. Fields gets destroyed on slides all the time and no call. There’s a reason it’s not just fans, but the players themselves, saying this…
Chiefs get every single call, no a single close call goes to their opponent. Every ticky tack call, especially in big moments. Mahomes has the most INTs called by from penalty then any other QB in history. Clearly rigged
The same Texans players who didn't mention their special teams blunders, lack of ability to pick up a blitz, emotional tirades causing 15 yard penalties and lack of execution??? lol ya I don't think players are smart either
I've seen Mahomes helmet turned sideways on a facemask…no call. Play blown dead "Forward progress" called on a QB strip sack. Chris Jones called for RTP for touching Brady's helmet. CJ also called for RTP after stripping the ball having possession and falling on Derek Carr with his only other arm extended to cushion the fall. I'm all for reviews. Bring it.
Josh has the most roughing calls in the league over the last several years. Look at data, don’t be emotional
The Chiefs get a pass like no one else the last few years. Last year’s Super Bowl was an officiating joke in favor of KC
They aren't looking for player safety. They are looking for Mahomes safety. No other QBs got late hit calls in the entire playoffs so far.
Josh has more roughing calls than any other QB in the league for like the last 4 years
@@ryanstang6556really? Prove it. I'll wait.
Before you comment, do some research. Allen has more roughing calls than Mahomes
@Richard-gw2lr google it. I know turth hurts
lol y'all live in an alternate universe
Troy Aikman said it best …. “Oh, come on!!!!”.
People just hate the gamesmanship. When you’re making flops, calling phantom roughing the passer penalties, and have Mahomes looking at the refs with a whining face whenever he gets touched it gets on peoples nerves. This is football, not the NBA or soccer.
It's not just Mahomes though, it's all the QBs that do this. It's only because people only watch their team and then whoever the Chiefs are playing, that they think it's a problem unique to Mahomes.
@@loganleroy8622every other QB this weekend respectfully goes out of bounds when they’re legit cornered. Also, other QBs follow the unwritten rule of “if you put your head down, you’re a runner and are looking for contact. Look at Baker’s run in his playoff game, thats how its done.
Josh Allen is the flopper of all floppers. The same people complaining about Mahomes doing this are also shouting MVP about Allen. It’s classic double speak.
@@LANeverSleeps Josh Allen literally was begging for flags like 4 different times last night. Did you not see watch the game? He very QB does it.
It's been made soft by the owners. Flopping in the NFL as a 45 year fan just blows my mind.
Im glad that the media & people are calling out these horrific calls.. Somebody has to call out the bad officiating, and i think that it needs to be called out MUCH MORE
The officiating was accurate. Change the rules if you don’t like them.
agreed - just a lot of whiny babies
@@JohnnyJankovich Big surprise, a Swifty who agrees with that take. It's gotta feel weird to pretend to be happy when your team wins. Like they actually competed. I wouldn't want to be a Chiefs fan with TEN Super Bowl championships. What a way to exist. Literally, no one respects the Chiefs anymore. 😂
To set up a Allen victory
Game will ne call even this week. They need the white boy in the superbowl vs the black boy
Stop showing Taylor Swift after every play. The bad officiatung is due to the NFL wanting to advance Swift to the SB.
I called this after the first game of the season. It is that obvious. This is a huge factor.
A lot of idiots will disagree with you but don’t how MASSIVE of a ratings boost that is
"The NFL wouldn't make a business decision that slightly degrades their product but gives them huge market share gains and hundreds of millions of extra dollars!"
-a significant percentage of Chiefs fans
If NBA refs were rigging calls why wouldn’t NFL refs do it.
Anybody caught doing so gets prosecuted and sent to prison. You know that, right?
15 months in prison is a slap on the wrist.
They do and they are. We are watching it happen
@@gp75460 lol you believe in Santa still?
@@gp75460😂😂u say that as if it hasn't happened.
There was also a facemask called on a failed 3rd down against the Texans that kept another scoring drive alive for the Chiefs which was, for lack of a better description, a ghost call. Air ball. No touching of the facemask at all. All shoulder. Officials are making assumptions, and they need to be able to look at replay on these. It's determining game outcomes.
That's how they fix the games. You are seeing it with your own eyes. They don't want judgement calls reviewed cuz judgement has been made on who should win.
Too late, lawful gambling has tainted my belief in anything remotely not having games fixed.
Sports gambling advertising is getting more and more pervasive and the officiating is getting worse and worse. It's probably nothing no need to look into it or change anything.
Didn't something like this happen in the NBA with refs making a lot of money? The FBI alerted the NBA and nothing else was investigated.
@@n00blike Tim Donaghy... Also look on the 2002 WCF game 6 between the Lakers and the Kings.. LA got like 26 or 27 free throws in that game, and they were able to beat the Kings to force game 7 in LA. Rigged AF against Sacramento.
The league has always been gambled on. Since inception. Just we see it now
@@CalebsCars But now the league(s) are partners with the gambling enterprises. The legal market targets young males especially. In countries where this is longer established (Australia and UK) bankruptcies and suicide rates have spiked. It's not just you seeing ads. It's what you don't see, while they talk about 'gamble responsibly
can you say "gambling"?
How about the hit on Jared Goff after that pick 6? That was brutal both the hit and the missed call.
It was gorgeous!! Old school ball!!! Bring it back!!
@@bdubs532 if that happened to mahomes they would've called game
That wasn't a missed call though.
Goff isn't protected at that moment
He was blocker
@bdubs532 lol, true, you don't see those kind of QB hits anymore (at least those without the yellow flags coming out)
What about the missed hip drop tackle?
every time Mahomes gets hit he jerks his head back, simulating a helmet to helmet hit; the guys a flopping savant
Remember kids, the CHOICE to not fix officiating is PROOF of game fixing.
It’s only fixed when your team doesn’t win
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@@AlbertC-u3lfind some friends lil bro
I am so happy Rich is finally coming around on this. Welcome.
He’s not coming around at all, he defended the refs the entire time and has to do so because he’s on the NFL payroll
@@drm3259 Just admitting that something has to change on 15 yard penalties is a huge change from his normal take.
not to mention the right tackle basically lining up in the backfield the entire game and never getting called for illegal formation
then have more refs. there's but so many eyes on the field, all those moving bodies. they are not going to catch everything
@@TahranStrong-mc4qt all game? Na I don't think so, refs were in favor for KC
@ you do know that pre snap a ref is designated to look right down the line. if the announcers can see it. everyone watching the game can see it, then its hard to make the argument that the ref whose job it is to look for illegal formations and false starts cant see it.
Lane Johnson does the same thing..
In your dreams
Joe Burrow had his head spun around exercist style this year... No flag. Lets see that happen to Mahomes.
Different ref team
So was the game rigged for the other team or did the refs just miss the call?
Same with Sam Darnald vs the Rams in season. Dude had his head ripped off and no call
Burrow is irrelevant
Last time I checked obvious favoritism is very relevant to this subject. @@zachv2933
The team with the most commercials will get the best of the calls. Happened with Jordan is happening with KC. Money talks.
If the refs were so concerned about player safety then why didn’t they call the hip drop tackle that was performed against tight end Schultz?
They haven't called hip drop tackles all year and they aren't going to. There were a TON in the Texans/Chiefs, Bills/Ravens, and just about every other game.
Cuz he isn't a QB 🤷♂️
Because the league hasn’t been flagging those, they have instead chose to deal with it by fining guys. I think they actually have a good system for this.
Not players safety .
Player saftey. It's singular .
It's only about Mahomes and this Swift ,3 peat narrative they are loving . It's a wink ,wink ,nod,nod type of situation . Not a league notice put in ink ,or digital . Game is of inches ,it's easy to sway when you get extra 1st downs every dingle week .
because they are dumb penalties to call.
I can safely say that if you look at the NFL, Rodger Goodell has turned the league away from sports competitions to sports entertainment.
Pure and simple. RG has turned the NFL into the WWE.
Without "entertainment" there is no MONEY you m0r0n. He's turned the NFL into the most valuable sport, by a mile. He's done his job. All his terrible ref'ing is just to take your mind off the fact that a game that should last 45 minutes takes nearly 4 hours due to all the stupid commercial breaks. Starting this year, you don't even get to see a replay of a nice play, they just immediately go to commercial.
@buffalobilly6046 I'll bet you were born after 1995....you're one of "those people".....
Well that means all this superbowls wins and records are lame now. Cause it's about entertainment instead of competition.
Stop watching
Hell Yeah And Damn Right Pathetic Owner No Backbone Either Waste Of Space
How about just not allowing the furthest Ref from alleged penalty call the penalty?
All professional sport officials should be made to have media availability post game like everyone else. Quickest way to tighten it up.
Then the refs should be allowed to talk about how terrible the players are for missing field kicks and missed catches and tackles.. and you crybaby fans better not cry about that too either … But I’m pretty sure you would 👶🏼🥹😂
@AlbertC-u3l I would but apparently internet "tough guy" is already taken. Right, sport?
Great idea
@MaxamillianStudio thanks
Officials did what they were told to do
Idk why that’s so hard for ppl to grasp.
They are who we thought they were.
Blocked a FG, missed a FG, and allow 18 sacks while scoring 12 points. Good job refs 🤡
No, they call it one way for the great Patrick and a way for the rest of the league
@@whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa find a friend
well, show me the ref's tax returns for the past 5 years and then let's see their homes, cars, expenses, etc. and track the bloat 🤗🤑🤑🤑
Patrick is getting the Golden boy treatment just like Tom Brady... History repeats itself
except Chiefs do not get stripped of multiple first rounders and got witch hunted for 12 years to let the other Golden Boy, Peyton Manning won a couple of Super Bowls
So does allen
god boy
@@a.gutierrez883Allen was dragging defenders into the end zone on Sunday. Let’s see pretty boy Kermit do that.
No way…NFL was up the Pats butts the entire Brady era.
Brockman you must’ve been unbearable when the Patriots were winning
It’s not just Mahomes the entire Chiefs team I give you the holding call in the Super Bowl versus the Eagles as proof
5th down vs bengals, I can probably name 10 games in the past few years handed by officials to the chiefs. They aren’t even that good these last few years which is why it’s so egregious
All personal fouls should be automatically reviewed just like scoring plays.
what, in slow mo so you can diesecte it for 5 mins? no thanks.
@@Ice-Bladeexactly!
@@Ice-Bladein playoffs yes. And if it’s blatant it won’t take 5 min it’s should take 1 min
The issue is are you really going to argue the 2 calls in the Chiefs games wouldn’t stand after a review? They would
@ very good point. With the roughing the passer one it actually was reviewed and they said because there was contact with mahomes helmet it would stand. The other late hit one after Mahomes slide when you slow it down the big guy ducked his head lower to try and hit Mahomes. After he recognized the slide.
Call it what it is. We all saw the disrespect to the sport and are sicken by it.
You have Chiefs Derangement Syndrome kid... there's players flopping and missed calls every Sunday. There's only one reason you're mad about it now😅
@@ForsakenWar you're clearly a nfl bot
@tamacmcmillan3518 Really? So quick question... how many times have you posted pissed off comments about the biggest missed officiating call from this past weekend? The DPI on the Ravens that should've been an OPI... Bills actually scored a TD after that terrible call and it literally cost the Ravens the game! I bet my house you haven't made a peep about that one have you😅 Why? Because it's not about ther bad officiating... it's because you've got a hard on for the Chiefs... sorry kid.. you lose!🤣
There’s a script for the NFL just like Wrestling it seems.
If they didn’t change the tush push, they won’t change Mahomes running out of bounds. If you want him to change his run style, just start lighting him up. He will stop after enough hits.
Sad to say but this may have to happen, for him and the league to make some needed adjustments on this roughing the passer call
That’s exactly right. He does it because he knows he’ll get the penalty.
Yeah if they know they are going to get it called against them, make the hit worthwhile
@@JUICEfromtheBOXv2 totally agree. Even if it cost 15 yards and an ejection it would be worth “cleaning his clock” at least once per game. As far as I’m concerned he, as well as the refs, has himself a target. If he gets injured severely because of it then it’s his fault.
Video is a reminder that Rich works for the nfl.
Yeah but he still speaks out though and wants this corrected clearly. Maybe the way he brought it is careful, but the fact that he's saying it as NFL network employee weighs more than some random sports writer.
💯 rich was the og poster boy for the nfl network... he's deep on the payroll!
@@LGZ024Especially when he gets to call play by play which he sucks at
Stop betting on the games if you think their rigged lmao
6:02 I don’t think anything he said was wrong. He also took accountability for why they lost the game
Mahommes is a flopper. Remember how we used to laugh about floppers in football's nearest rival, soccer?
When I played football, it was partly to show how tough you were. You didn't run out of bounds to avoid contact. You didn't slide to avoid getting hit. You didn't pretend to be hurt in order to get a penalty.
Mahommes, and by extension, Reid, have lost the respect of anyone who loves football. He should be laughed out of the league.
It’s just a coincidence that they get all the calls all the time
Hip drop tackle not called
Also ( as in the Rams game) a defender falling down to his knees and face plants in front of the blocking lineman is NOT Holding!!!!
Same thing in the Buffalo game on Deion Dawkins he pushed him to the ground. And they called that BS holding. Refs are too old and the NFL needs to get them seeing eye dogs apparently. 😂
yea it's tripping😂 or chop blocking
all pro sports is just about the money now not the sport ..that's what happens when you allow online GAMBLING!!!
Theres no denying the refs are paid by the chiefs. The Kansas city refs vs the buffalo bills.
The proof that NFL games are swayed by the referees is a FACT at this point.
Facts are hard to come by. Do you actually know what you would need to do research wise to make this a fact?
@Screen-j7p Have eyes.
@ Have eyes is not the only thing that makes something a fact. People see what they want, it's called confirmation bias. You would need to analyze every play of every team on all phases of the ball.
When you give replay assist the ability to see AND SHOW everyone that a call is wrong, but DON'T give them the ability to change it, it's the worst of both worlds.
It was helmet to facemask and that is a penalty. It is clear in slow motion even he contacted Mahomes.
Thank you Rich!!
QB has way too much protection in this game . Announcers literally mad because Goff got blocked on a pick 6 when he’s literally a would be tackler .
When the number of people betting on the NFL games drops to historical lows, and Vegas starts complaining to the league office will something be done about poor officiating.
The Biggest problem isn't that they keep getting the calls its when they keep getting the calls, its the fact that for at the very least 3 seasons in a row not only are the fans saying there is something going on but also the players and coaches are acknowledging it as well. This is all good and well, you could just chalk it up to players and fans upset they lost but when everyone is saying the same thing over and over and over and over again that stops being a coincidence. Not saying they are actively taking bribes/told what to do or whatever but could just be a bias that refs have for the team.
When a pitcher throws on edge outside strike zone, and the ump gives him a strike, he keeps throwing further out until he doesn’t get the call.
You know there’s a reason why people want to replace those bozos with robots right?
Rich son is 100% correct these refs are ahhhh
Blaming the refs is for kids & losers.🤷♂️ every game has bad calls & missed calls, we just notice more when they are in the favor of the team that wins...and the Chiefs Win a lot...but did the refs cause the returner to get 63 yards on the kick off, or the Texans to miss a fg, get one blocked & miss an xp?...did the refs sack C.J. 8x & some in crucial situations?
Folks are getting delusional 😂
@ oh get over yourself you guys are becoming insufferable and obnoxious. They won every game this year by like a point or two. If the games were called fairly they would be a .500 team. Only reason they have hung in there is the defense and Andy Reid Mahomes has played like crap. But you’ll keep bumping your gums same ones you eat bunless hot dogs with extra mayo with
This problem was fixed years ago in the USFL and now also in the UFL. Every single play is watched by an official in the booth and they review each penalty that is called. The on field refs and the ref in the booth are on open mics and those fans in the stands and watching on TV can ALL hear what the refs are saying. The head ref on the field almost always gets confirmation from the chief official in the booth. There are two officials that trade off in watching the UFL games and one of them is none other than Mike Pereira. He's a former NFL ref, served as the Vice President of officiating for the NFL and is currently the head of officiating in the UFL. It was him that Aikman consulted about the bogus penalties and he said those flags should have been picked up. In the UFL Pereira would have told the on field refs to pick both of those flags up.
With the open mics and the booth overwatch, the UFL goes out of its way to make the games clean and fair, but sometimes the refs on the field and the ref in the booth miss something and the coaches on the sidelines have a super challenge they can make at any time for anything, even for an infraction the refs failed to call. So if an offensive lineman moves or sets up too far back off the line and it doesn't get called, (a problem KC's right offensive tackle is guilty off frequently and often isn't called), the coach can throw his red flag and challenge that there was an infraction they didn't call. The guy in the booth reviews the play and if he sees the coach was right, the penalty is then called and marched off. The coach with a successful challenge gets to keep his challenge. The challenge can be made only if the team has a time out. A failed challenge costs a timeout and the team gets no more challenges.
I'm a huge fan of the Spring league. It reminds me of football back in the 70s when players didn't get $50 million a year and played for the love of the game, when tickets were affordable for the blue collar worker and his family.
I stopped counting at SIX the times the refs made key calls in the waning moments of the 4th quarter that helped Mahomes' and the Chiefs keep a last drive alive and win the game. 1 time, even 2 is understandable but when it is six and counting, that's not human error anymore. That's deliberate game fixing. With the NFL gambling crap being pushed, there is too much room for game fixing. The NFL has become the WWE. The Chiefs should have had at least a 10-7 or even a 9-8 record, NOT a 15-1 regular season record if the UFL officiating procedures were in play in the NFL. Now with the playoff win over Houston, the Chiefs have at least 7 cheap, cheating victories thanks to refs fixing the games. Mark my words, the Chiefs will beat the Bills and the refs will have a hand in it so that Goodell can have the Chiefs and the Swifties in the Superbowl. I'm disgusted by what has happened to the NFL. The NFL has lost me as a fan.
Bring on the UFL!!!! The new season is coming soon!
Because it's obviously happening. Once or twice it's a mistake but EVERY SINGLE GAME just proves it
Brockman saying it’s not the same. 😂 🤣
It's nearly an exact replica
🤔Josh has to learn how to flop properly 🙏
It never ends, I turned off the game after that play. I'm not even mad about KC or Mahomes, not necessarily care about it too much, but every time it happens I get this feeling that I'm being laughed at and I'm just wasting my time watching a football game. And I hate it.
Thats exactly what I did... I came back for the 3rd quarter. Then I did the same thing.
@@technologicalsociety I'll probably try and watch Bills-Chiefs, cause I gotta. And I'll probably end up doing the same thing.
Finally people are talking about it
Where have you been? I have heard all this whining for weeks.
Hard to ignore it at this point. Fucking sad what the nfl has become.
Yes , it’s getting out of hand with the Chiefs. I don’t mind a team winning if it’s on the up and up, but to keep manipulating the calls and getting phantom calls at key moments of the game gets to be suspect
@ Nah, this trash has been happening for years, not weeks. .
I think that ANY penalty that results in a new set of downs should be subject to replay assist. Because a new set of downs could change the outcome of a game significantly. Obviously that's a pretty significant change, so they could start getting used to it by only implementing it in the final 2 minute warning period of a game. At least if the refs knew there was going to be a replay assist, they'd be less eager to throw a flag unless they were absolutely sure of what they saw.
The chiefs have played 11 playoff games. They’ve gotten more flags than their opponents 0 times. If officiating is theoretically even, the odds of that happening are 0.049%
Either through bias or incompetence that’s so statistically improbable that there’s obviously some kind of problem that needs addressed
And its hard to argue incompetance when its completely in favor of one side
How tf do you get that number?
@@kevinrehak7373 odds should be roughly 50/50 or 0.5. For it to happen 11 straight times you’d do 0.5^11=0.000488 or 0.049%. It’s not perfect cuz it doesn’t account for the chance of even penalties or game styles/situations or whatever, but it’s a decent ballpark figure of what the probability should look like.
It isn't the number of penalties. It's when they are called. They always come at critical points in a drive, usually after a defensive stop on 3rd down.
Refs will make mistakes. But when those mistakes always go in favor of one team, it leads people to question the fairness of the game.
@@kristopherloviska9042 oh for sure. I’d be fascinated to know the frequency of drive extending penalties they get compared to other teams. I think that’d be glaringly bad. I’m sure that stat’s out there somewhere, but idk where to find it
They need expedited review for these calls and they need to call unsportsmanlike conduct for late slides or pull-ups on the sideline.
It's so common seeing defenders kinda just stand around when a QB is running toward them because they don't want to go for a tackle and get a flag. Either slide way before the nearest defender or prepared to be tackled like every other football player.
They were both booth reviewable, and were... but the NFL rule states that if any helmet to helmet contact is made in the review, then the booth is not allowed to overturn the call.
@@WillTheWeirdoCorrectomundo. There was helmet to helmet contact on both plays. At least for RTP the refs are not allowed to overturn the call if helmet to helmet contact is involved. Not sure if that goes for when the QB is sliding as well.
Not a big fan of the calls, but they were absolutely correct based on the rules.
Now I know why Mahomes wears jersey number 15 😂
We live in a world where everything is rigged in our minds.
What city does the Refs live in? Rigged City, Kansas City
@@zeusonolympus123 lol
@@Avenue77 lol lol lol
They are tired of the chiefs winning. I remember the roughing the passer they called on the chiefs in the afc championship game when Brady got smacked in the shoulder. Yet people try to say this is unprecedented and obvious rigging
When the refs miss the helmet to helmet hit on Jared Goff but call the things we saw in the Chiefs/Texans game, they deserve this scrutiny. The league and fans deserve better.
I’m glad they didn’t call the Ions QB hit, on that note QBs should move out tye way in intercepted balls. As far as the Chiefs those wrongly called penalties was at key moments of the game to keep giving the Chiefs the advantage, which has been happening way to long
Ban gambling or the riggng will never end.
Patrick M. And the ref were talking in the sideline... ref being dude don't worry we got ur back!!!
The best thing for the NFL right now would be for Buffalo to absolutely decimate KC next week. If it's even close, the national rage is going to spike. The world is truly exhausted by this Mahomes/Reid/Referee era.
No one going to mention that textbook hip drop tackle?
7:00 Agreed!
fine KC, their coach, and their QB $5M each. fixed
🎻🎻
For what? Playing by the rules? Players and teams don’t throw the flags. How about fine the Texans for allowing 8 sacks, missed field goals, miss extra point, not covering Kelce at all and only scoring 1 touchdown?
They didn't err on the side of player safety for Goff getting hit.
It's literally the same mentality when you go to the casino and these guys can't stop gambling their whole paycheck and eventually they get up and start cussing out the dealer and the boat that they've been scammed out of their money when really it's because they have no self-control
As someone who wants to see the stars out there playing the game, stop leading with the crown of the helmet and you will get fewer calls. Many times, the defensive players take as much or more damage as the those they are going after. Keep your head up and maybe keep playing a little longer.
100% In the past with objectionable announcers in the booth, they would defend the refs and say that they put themselves in danger doing it. I seriously wouldn't be surprised if the Texan player didn't actually sustain a mild concussion from that hit.
If quarterbacks are going to run the ball and it is part of offenses, they should be treated as running backs when running the ball. Just like when a quarterback throws the ball, there is criteria for a late hit. We see all the time a quarterback that throws the ball and gets hit after the release and it's not a penalty.
At least 3 offensive penalties on the one Texans touchdown. Including a hands to the face. No call. Go watch the replay. Not even the announcers said anything. But i guess since its not the Chi3fs, it doesnt count.
No one ever complains for the Chiefs. Chiefs must be perfect, dominate, and blow people out.
Can’t forget the dalton Schultz “catch” or the egregious hold on Wharton at the end.
Something that is missing from this entire narrative is that the Texans defense had a problem with player safety this year
The advertisers, the league, and TV stations don't want the Texans in the superbowl. The refs know this.
Not only do they call bs penalties but they don't call actual penalties. Its pretty obvious if you're observant.
Yet josh allen flops and gets the most roughing the passer calls his way and all you low information peasants are quiet
A ref goes to the sidelines and tells allen he is sorry and pats him on the should and you clowns are quiet
You are just chiefs haters
I guess the refs helped stroud get sacked 8 times
I guess the refs helped texans kicker miss 2 fg an extra point and helped kc block a fg
@phil-Fry it ain't just chiefs games. It's been going on way before the chiefs. If you watch, it's undebatable. It sucks but it is what it is. You can try to set the narrative that people just hate the chiefs, but it's simply not the case for many fans.
@Jayo2454 refs are humans
Hint hint humans make errors
A so called bad call early in the game doesn't affect the rest of the game
Mahomes has had 31 roughing calls in 8 years and Brady had 35 in 23 years it's not comparable.
Brady was a pocket passer, Mahomes constantly leaves the pocket. Hardly comparable.
15 yard penalties should all be quick reviewed, period.
For every bad call be call or missed.
The referees should definitely get a hefty fines like the players occasionally get.
I'm a Ravens fan and I wasn't even upset they lost last night. Not because I don't care if they win or lose, but because of the effed up officiating when it comes to the Chiefs. Flags where there shouldn't be for Mahomes, no flags when there should be for the other team... and the NFL comes out and says all those Mahomes flags were valid. Sure. Can't be more rigged than that and it's so obvious. The Chiefs are gonna get their three-peat no matter what, the NFL will see to that. So why be bothered if your team loses now, it's not like you have a chance to actually win the SB.
You can’t convince me it played safety when Goff and other QB’s around the league take these vicious shots and don’t get a flag!! If Mahomes took these vicious shots shot Goff and other QB’s took this year the rules would changed tomorrow!!!
If you said the Texans had their worst special teams performance plus 8 sacks, hard to imagine them winning
Glazing at its finest
Well make it fair I've seen teams come from worst then that and win..
Their bad plays don’t take away those bad calls which seem to happen to Chiefs opposition a lot in big games at key times
@@vanjones1749 every game the chiefs play is a big game, everyone watches the chiefs even though they hate them just because they want to see them lose....CRY MORE Babies Brady almost went to jail for cheating and WAS suspended for cheating but i never heard so much complaining....
But they would've won by 1 without those horrendous flags, and probably by 4 or 8 if the refs penalize the Chiefs for that hip drop tackle.
We're sick of it.
The Unnecessary roughness was really bad imo but the Roughing the passer is just a textbook 2024-25 roughing the passer call and I feel it is weird that people still get outraged about it after a year and a bit of any head contact being that call no matter how slight.
Also imo media, online people, fans can all say "The refs love this team" but I hate players and coaches saying it after a loss... just looks whiney especially when anyone who is honest with themselves knows that isnt why they lost and they are just hiding behind it as an excuse
Roughing the passer shouldn’t be a penalty
It's okay. The Senior VP of NFL officiating investigated themselves and decided the calls were good. "We investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing." Lol what a joke
Cooper knows what’s up Rich!!
What about that Texans catch that was questionable ... on the side line .. bobbled.. then regained control but stepped out of bounds ?
NFL wants the Swifties. It’s a natural constituency.
Chiefs actively changing NFL rules to level the playing field AGAINST them. First was overtime rules of possession after KC throttled Buffalo in overtime - next it will be this. No Tuck rule upgrades FOR Kansas City, no...
wtf? the Chiefs asked for the OT rule to be changed and were denied. Then they beat the Bills and the league changed it.