Zizek And Destiny Debate IRL
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- Опубліковано 20 лип 2023
- DEBATE: Destiny vs Zizek
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Destiny vs Zizek FULL DEBATE
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you have to pay ☹
Well, at least this lil snippet made it out from the paywall.
Have to pay?? Bruhhh
So it's a free trial, I don't have to pay, I can cancel right away, BUT the only way to actually cancel is to send them a email. there's not even a button to unsubscribe, it's ridiculous
Paywalling a Marxist’s debate has to be the most based thing on the internet this week
So glad to see small streamers like Zizek make it into the orbit.
Finally a successful female Slovenian comedian
@@channelname5938 Wait, isn't Melania Slovene too?
😂😂😂
@@marca9955she's swedish
@@marca9955She's from Sweden, which is in Scandinavia. Slovenia is in the Balkans, they are Slavs not Scandinavians.
cant wait for Zizek to backstab Destiny and claim he was sexually groomed by him.
😂😂😂😂😂sthaaap!!!!
hahaha classic Slavoj!
And so on…
Zizek is the kind of person who would do that as a joke, while adding "but it's okay because I liked it" at the end
😅
Heard Zizek is going on Fresh and Fit tomorrow
Lmao I would pay to see this
I love that I have no idea if this is serious or not.
that would be hilarious
Update, Zizek will no longer be attending. Reportedly, its because he refused to sleep with Myron. Latest updates on Zizz's OF.
@@DonJosesito Understandable, that wasn't very alpha of Zizek to do.
Wtf, how did Destiny make it to being on a stage with Zizek
Years of hard work and gaming
Who knows but this Zizek guy seems insane.
He walked probably
Bro this some old shit.
Zizek saw his epic gaming in Factorio.
He's made it big time! I'm so proud of him. A humble Slovenian philosopher is finally on stage with the world's most famous N-word enjoying politics streamer.
Zizek has also used the n-word. They have so much in common.
@@Altitudesand zizek has the pass, not destiny. So unfair 😔
@@vision2darkwho gave either of them passes?
@@morgengabe1a committee consisting of Mj, Tupac's clone, and Obama
@@morgengabe1 I did
Curious if Zizek knows what an NFT is
Wouldn't have pegged you as a destiny fan, your content is excellent 👏
he probally does
U real? damn
hi depressed turtle man
The only thing stranger than seeing Destiny on stage with Zizek is seeing Exurbia in the comments
This lady just started trying to hypnotise everyone in her intro wtf. Underrated debate tactic
😂😂
Dude it was boring wtf lol
Sharp turn right. Red Door!
I thought the same shit. Neuro-linguistics. Brainwashing.
Seriously good luck on views with this one if anyone can make it past that shit,
All those hours of Factorio really prepared Destiny for the game of Life...
What are you even trying to say here?
@@placer7412 I think what he meant was that Destiny was basically criticizing the exact same thing he was doing. From playing countless streaming hours on LoL and Factorio on one hand to turn around and saying “you should pursue longer term activities rather than the meaningless instant gratification”.
And yes, playing monotonous game which Destiny always due counts as sorta instant gratification.
zizek's opening piece is literally describing emergent gameplay, which is the cornerstone of all great videogames. amazing stuff
@@DinosaurSuccesso
Ou
its describing i think the need for gamification towards education, work , life, etc.
He described bethesda’s “it’s not a bug it’s a feature”
He definitely released this on the same day as Oppenheimer on purpose
counter bomb drop.
I’m about to watch right now 🎉🎉
To be fair it came out yesterday in most places.
No. He obviously released it because of Barbie. Go back to school, boy.
Barbenheimer-Zizek triple feature
What I wanted to emphasize is that *EUM* Destiny is *SNIFF* a woman’s name
Lmao
And so on and so on
_shirt pinch_
@@Hemlocker LMAOOOO
DESHTINY EESH A WOMENSH NAYME
Imagine debating Zizek and all you talk about is videogames
they brought up the concept if life was a game are you really that stupid?
Who tf is this zizek dude?
@@nostep3966 Zizek is pretty much one of the top psychoanalysts in the world, but hes mostly known for his philosophic and sociologic work. He was one of the leading personalities at 'Occupy Wall Street' and ist often quoted as the "most dangerous communist philosopher".
@bomber9912 is he genuinely a communist?
@@c.karnstein3299you say it like it’s such a crime lol what’s so bad with it
How the fuck did this happen? How did she get to this event? Hopefully more of this.
god thats so subtle and good,i wish it was more like this rather than the whole ''DESTINYS A GIRLS NAME DUURRR'''
@@Kan-ova a haunting slowburn that reels you in at the last moment, absolutely spine chilling, my soyjak in christ you just won the internet
The joke was done so meticulously. It was perfection. 10000/10
repent to God
@@Baggerz182 Repent to Allah
6:09 I lived to see Zizek saying: gaming.
Truly a gaming moment
Now, this is gaming
Žižek DESTROYS Destiny in the marketplace of ideas with saliva and sox and sandals.
I’ve never been able to follow his thoughts dude need’s subtitles
this multiverse shit is wild
When you’re in an itchy nose competition and your opponent is Zizek
Hahahahaha underrated comment
You've already lost then
Man even if you disagree with him you gotta love Zizek's energy and approach. He's a very hard man to hate. He's got that kind of charisma that only someone being completely honest with themselves can have.
great charisma for delusional people
"I hate life" - Slavoj Žižek
@@DudokX he's just like me fr
Can’t understand a word he says, but otherwise yeah
His Charisma would work better if he fixed this horrible lisp and stopped dressing lika a homeless man.
As someone with Autism and ADHD, i think zizek is also pure autsim energy. love this man
"So Destchiny, can you exchplain what you and dis Hasan gentlcheman hate each ozer so much?"
That would have been the perfect ice breaker, I'm sure they could find a lot of common ground on saying the n word
WOOO IT WASNT LOST! FINALLY NOT RED PILL FINALLY SOMETHING INTERESTING FINALLY!
Zizek by exposing Destiny for having a female name
SHUT UP
as a Destiny fan for over five years I hate that I still find this comment funny
Zizek is nathan from the future that timetraveled back in time
Nice twist
lol Destiny closes his eyes during the hippie visualization , Zizek said wtf is she doing xD
He closed his eyes after a second
Žižek said: "If you reach deep inside yourself, you will find deep shit."
I dream of a day when Destiny and Shapiro have a debate, or Peterson for that matter. That day will be truly glorious
+1
Peterson would be too easy, Shapiro would be fun to watch though
I'm a daily wire fan, but Peterson speaks with such metaphorical language (which I know is some people's preferred way of communicating/learning), that it's ultra annoying to try to understand what he's saying, instead of someone who just gets to the point, like Destiny. Shapiro and Destiny would be way better to watch.
Btw, having William Lane Craig speak with Destiny would be quite fun, as Craig is excellent with finer distinctions in logic.
Peterson would be crying by the end of the debate with him haha
@@Volmire1Craig is probably the most talented Christian apologist but he literally uses dialogue trees like no other. His arguments-particularly the kalam cosmological argument-are all quite easy to debunk if you’re familiar with them. From his equivocation of “begins to exist ex nihilo” with “begins to exist as in a reorganization of existing parts,” to the assumption that the universe began to exist, that argument is full of problems. Not to mention it doesn’t even conclude with Gods existence. In a less formal debate I don’t think he’d fair very well.
For that whole thinking and breathing moment she was for sure thinking about building factories
i wonder what exactly those factories were making deep inside her self
You fully rizzed that mans mind at 14:00. Got him taking notes when you mentioned removing the friction.
I agree with Zizek on this whole “going within yourself” schtick that’s so popular now.
I’ve often said “if you think it then it is 100% not going to happen in the way in which you thought of it”
This pisses a lot of people off because the idea of “manifesting” has become so conventional people are jarred after hearing that.
I kind of agree with you, the whole manifesting thing is stupid, but he also said you should identify with your mask, which I completely disagree with, I'd say that's a really quick way to a miserable life
@@andreafranco712 Sorry to break it to you, but you are your mask. We all are. Even when your mask is pretending like you don't identify with your mask. All we are is mask. Their is nothing underneath.
@@andreafranco712I think he meant, or should've said understand and know your mask intimately, rather than identify with it.
@@schr4nz that's a different statement though, it's definitely more agreeable but i don't know if that's what he meant
@@andreafranco712 what he means is that the mask(s) is all there is to your identity. there is no magical essence or core to you that contains the true real you.
zizek actually started to touch on the most important part of a game, as totalbiscuit would always say the failure state is the most important mechnic, if youre not punished for failing enough then victory essentially becomes a given, much the same happens in life, no one wants to walk a flat path laid out in front of them chartered by someone else, even if it will 100% lead to 'success' if theres no chance of failure no struggles no strife, no obstacles to overcome then the primal brain gets demotivated imo. Thats one of the biggest problems of modern society to me, some areas the struggle is so hard the failure states are constant and other areas are so simple theres no motivation to do them. Like where am i getting my primal brain juice if i never need to use any of my evolutionary adaptations, thats why working in a boring office job is so life draining or retail, there really is no challenge to those jobs and its just tedium.
Damn i miss TB :(
RIP the man, the Cynical brit, TB
i love it when i get robbed, so i can grind even harder
@@toniokettner4821it's the sigma grindset bro
This isn't true. Most games are becoming movies where you need no skill to win. God of War is mostly cutscenes.
What is this, a crossover episode?
based ass reference
It's still weird seeing Destiny talk to people that I would consider "serious" of course he's done it many times at this point but generally he talks to people that I don't find important to discourse or... even worth talking to at all in some severe cases
Yeah I agree. I really don't give a rip about people like Sneako or Hasan.
You can't imagine a debate streamer together with an edgy meme-philosopher? Idk, i don't see the contradiction
yes, a joke philosopher is a "serious" guy.
@@jaydunna2645mfrs love talking about diogenes
@@jaydunna2645
Bro, people think Zizek is a joke philosopher because they _never_ bother to ask him the questions that actually matter, and instead prod him for media and culture commentary.
But if they actually took the time to get familiar with his actual _theoretical_ work (Sublime Object of Ideology, Tarrying With the Negative, The Ticklish Subject, The Parallax View, and Less Than Nothing), they would discover that he is literally intersecting the three most substantial projects in European academia today: Lacanian psychoanalysis, Marxian political economy, and Hegelian metaphysics.
I absolutely despise this sentiment that because he's so good faith towards the kinds of normie stupidity the general public engages him with, that therefore that's _all_ he is. It's such a ridiculous waste of what he is actually capable of discussing.
The problem is that not many _want_ to ask him those harder questions that require a bit of reading.
As a slovenian this whole situation is crazy ngl
Same
damn nisem se vidu kerega drugega slovenca da bi gledal destinyja
@@brosisjk3993 destiny je huge, valda se se kdo najde
@@MarusaTheBadKidevo gleda se i u Srbiji haha
@@katarina5276pa i nema nas nesto puno lol
I’ve never….. in my years seen a woman so boldly challenge Zizek!! Bravo!! 👏 🎉
Ambitious Hubris of Eve
I don't think there's a funnier word to hear Zizek say than cliché
We NEED a longer discussion between these two.
the first shot of zizek and destiny sitting on the same stage made me laugh hard... zizek on the right talking and destiny on the left with blue dyed hair just sitting as if he's being punished for saying a swear word in class, what a combination
Zizek debating Destiny is like an NBA player going against a college player. Yeah, it sorta makes sense, but the skill gap is still immense. And yes, Destiny is the college player lol. Good on him for getting this opportunity.
I know very little about Destiny but I have noticed that when he enters debates with people who are actual intellectuals or experts in their field he struggles. I studied Zizek at university and watched folks like Richard Woolf the economist and Marxist. When these guys have a long career and knowledge of history Destiny is no match. Their is a fashion these days of psudo -intellectualism where logical fallacies are masked as serious debate. This is why we have a Jordan Peterson who talks about a lot of subjects he has no idea about and avoids debates with people like Richard Woolf on subjects such as capitalism and Marxism. I think the adjective “Smart” is now a meme and Debate is now called “Gotcha”
Zizek is not a good debater
@@thevirgologychannel6215massive richard wolfe cope
@@TOPHOTCLIPS He’s a philosopher that’s deals with ideas rather than absolutes. These so called debate bros want to win. “I’m right and you’re wrong”
@@thevirgologychannel6215yes, when you take a person on at something they're good at you struggle, thanks for the heads up
Zizek. “You’ll only find shit inside yourself”
Buddhist. “Hold my beer”
5 minutes later
Buddhist: God it stinks in here
@@off6848 meh.
Zizek inpires me to force myself to learn and grow. This is a guy who refuses to sit down idly and accept a surface-level understanding of existence. He delves as deep as he possibly can into everything that he absorbs, and gives all of his lectures/speeches/debates his 10000% effort. Imagine where we might be if we each applied Zizek's "pen and paper to a debate" approach to this game of life that we're all forced play. Where does this energy and tenacity come from and how can I harness some of it?
Go out and live life. That is all. Conscious thought in generative directions as you’re remaining present and grounded.
Ne
You gotta love the TRUTH!
Its just passion man, art and philosophy will never betray you.
Coke. Zizek does tons of coke.
Destiny with his eyes closed: “this is stupid, this is stupid, this is stupid”
If only I could listen to Zizek as hard as Zizek could think.
You can really see how destiny’s approach is more surface level - not in a bad way, but he sticks with more obvious and grounded interpretation of the question. Zizek has his entire philosophical perspective about the economy of symbols and language and his lacanian and marxist foundations to filter the question through, so he digs a bit more into the meta of the question. Neither approach is bad but its interesting to see the different places they get you.
You mean the guy with blue hair that debates leftist r-words on stream while playing Starcraft and eating chicken tendies has a more surface-level understanding of the topic than the Slovenian philospher & intellectual? Oh cool.
thats just the difference in education honestly.
Destiny is vapid & boring he just moves his hands in ways that he thinks makes him look profound
replies arent ready for the intellectual baggage that has to be carried in order to comprehend the DALIBAN
Fun fact, the name of this festival “How the Light Gets In” comes from a song by Leonard Cohen called Anthem. Cohen is one of the only lyricists that compares with Dylan in terms of literary quality. I never thought my random obsession with his music/poetry and Destiny would cross paths-even in such a subtle way. Had to point it out for the 3 other people in this audience who know what I’m talking about Haha
“Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in”
Battle of the lisps
destiny has a lisp?
@@Issthi Always has but it's hardly noticeable now - look back at some of his Nebraska days, it was a lot more prevalent
You know it was a calm debate when August doesnt clickbait
This could've been vaush if he didn't go to the fortress
Indeed, sad 😢
What do you mean fortress
I second the other comment, what do you mean by fortress?
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What a debate and conversation held by a strong black woman and Zizek. Amazin!
Been waiting for this
As a person from Slovenia whos been watching steve for a while now, this is a dream collab lmao.
Would love to hear a destiny and zizek 1 on 1 conversation without the others or audience. Not just answering prompts.
This had a lot of strange energy
The lady that asked everyone to close their eyes was kinda cringe and idk what she was trying to accomplish
What the actual fuck was up with the woman in the middle I thought I might be in the process of dying
Nightmare blunt rotation
What an uninteresting topic to waste on a “debate” with Zizek
Its nice to see Zizek has come up and now invited to events with Destiny!
I can’t wait for a Perverts Guide to Factorio
"New higher level of gaming" - Zizek
I can imagine him spitting all over Destiny back stage.
they have literally one of the pioneering philosophers of the world yet they’re paying more attention to a streamer, peak American dodoism
Same day as Oppenheimer
Coincidence? I think not
Reminder Vaush argues with his chat that he’s right to be too lazy to fly out to do any form of podcasts LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Well now, he actually argues that he’s too autistic 😂
Very confused as to why destiny gets the privilege of interviewing all these people, I wouldn’t necessarily call him a thought leader
He has a clout, it’s very simple
Finally some footage from this historical meeting of the two greatest female minds of our time.
This feels like a dream... My two favorite political characters interacting
Yikes, I hope that doesn't mean you're a Marxist.
Whats wrong with that?
@@pinip_f_werty1382most sane liberal destiny viewer take
@@pinip_f_werty1382i don’t consider myself a marxist however as a dirty commie i must ask you if you can tell me the difference between slave and master, serf and lord, employee and employer, and under what ever the fuck chinas doing government and workers
Destiny? 😂 Holy fuck
If Destiny hung out backstage with Zizek for even a few moments, you know they shared some blow.
Wow. Never thought I would see them together in a room but here we are
Deschtiny ish a woman'sh name
"When you look into yourself deeply you find deep shit there". Absolutely love that. I've been identifying with the mask so far and generally fine but good to know I'm on the right path
Wild that Majorie Taylor Green's older sister leading a guided meditation for Destiny and Zizek.
Never thought this would happen
My fave part was 10 seconds into the hypno lady's thought visualization, Zizek was like "Im done with this shit.."
Lol yeah he just opened his eyes and started writing down some notes, what a chad
This is easily top 5 best anime crossovers
Damn I enjoy this wayy more than any drama in dgg. What a interesting talk
They really named their whole event after an attack from One Piece Zoro. Wild stuff
Fighting the urge
taking three breaths through my bong while my eyes are closed to this
After skipping the ad on iai, right-click video, and Save Video As.. to avoid the paywall.
I’m glad Zizek fully incorporated Yanis Verafakis’ thesis about techno-feudalism. It’s an overdue update to Marxist theory of labor for our current condition.
It’s so weird how much more prominent Destiny’s lisp is on any other mic besides his own
Matching power levels with Zizek.
After following you for years it's so nice to see how composed and good of a talker you've become Destiny. You're winning this game for sure ^^
Gotta check out the full video now :)
Pacing, inflections, clarity- he’s becoming an incredibly great communicator and is amazing to see
that was the longest 60 seconds of my fucking life, jesus
Where was this?
I remember years and years ago Destiny had a super small sub count and countless haters in his comment section. I remember thinking at that time we're doomed. Now look at this dude. I no longer think we're doomed . Destiny is the best on the left by a long shot and getting the attention he deserves. Destiny is the man.
...Apart from the hair and name.
i like how you still see opposition in the comments to some degree, its very much not just a streamer bubble in a way
@@gsomethingsomething2658 No, you know what? I'm embracing the cringe sometimes. Sometimes it just makes sense. It says "I don't care, I like it" and "Why yes, I do have strange sex in airports."
This is a weird post, comes off pretty parasocial
@@ennuiii I discovered destiny because it was someone else who thought like me while I watched countless retarded hive minded fuck wads hate on him. I guess it was like they were hating on me too. If that's parasocial so be it. I would argue for hours under the name Jbungie on Rogans message board years before I discovered destiny so I had my own thing . We're similar people I don't know what else to say.
you could not make this shit up lmao this feels surreal
That thumbnail has debate kung fu energy
Man the beginning is so painful. It is just a friendly debate but I can’t unsee it as 3 professors listening to a student winging a presentation.
Who invited blud on the left 💀
The blue hair has been great for destiny career
Proud moment for the debate bro community.
The only thing weird about this is the topic. I feel there would be a lot of way more interesting topics to get into with Žižek than "is life a game". Even just his takes on music or film would be better than this. Also 1 on 1 would give them way more time to actually talk.
Not a single n word between them. Disappointed
the world keeps getting weirder by the day man
I'm not putting in my credit card info for this.
oh shit when did I miss this!!
My life is like a video game
Trying hard to beat the stage
All while I am still collecting coins
I will not be happy until zizek becomes an orbiter
This is why Johnathan Nash was obsessed with Game Theory, it outlines the basis for dichotomous relationships to solve problems & gain solutions. Very necessary
This is what I have been waiting for
Glad to see so many people still showing their appreciation for Zizek. Truly a gold mine of knowledge.
How tf did this happen?