@@jaylee9356 not really worth purchasing in the first place. It's unfortunate to hear that it hasn't arrived. His organization sounds like it's as bad as the product
Placed an order at the beginning of December, the email with tracking number was received on the junk folder then automatically deleted. I contacted them several times no response. Still didn’t receive my order and they didn’t respond to provide me with the tracking number so I can follow up.
I guess I am failing to see why someone wouldn’t just buy a normal 2 piece strap that looks more finished since you removed the whole reason of using a NATO which is to have a fail safe if a spring bar breaks.
Sorry to be blunt, but that it pointless. The whole purpose of a NATO strap is to save the watch when one spring bar breaks. This strap doesn’t do that, so you may as well wear a two-piece fabric strap.
Nato design singularly was to prevent the entire watch slipping off through loose fixed bar lugs that were common back in the day. That's the only reason for the extra strap and loop. There's a documentary about it.
This defeats the purpose of using a Nato. Nato straps are tool straps to avoid your watch from falling off your wrist if one of the spring bars is busted. Makes no sense.
One of my favorite features of NATO straps is that you don't have to remove spring bars to install them. So easy to change to a new strap every morning. Would love to see a version which can pass right through, without having to remove that one spring bar
Bro said “what if I ripped off a CNS Paratrooper strap… and made it worse?” 😮 Also, patent pending means nothing from a legal standpoint until it’s awarded.
So basically you remove the intended functionality of the NATO and just focus on aesthetics. The antithesis of what a tool watch is all about but hey look, it’s thinner!!
I had a spring bar snap off on a field excursion . My NATO saved my watch. NATOs aren’t about “ the look.” They are designed to save your watch in rugged outdoor activities. It was never designed for desk divers.
@@user-tx4wj7qk4t Due to the springbars, I have had my cheap seiko come off my wrist twice at work and hit the floor. If I was wearing my nato on those occasions it would not have fallen.
I love how easy it is to change nato straps for different looks, I love knowing that 1 missing spring bar won't drop my watch, but these aren't essential for everyday. I do congratulate you on the innovation shown here in such an established form factor of a wristwatch. I'm looking forward to giving one a go 👌
Very cool. For me though, I like NATO and MN straps because they remove the negative space between the spring bar and the case that you get with a leather band and some bracelets. This isn’t for me, but well done!
Nice one Max, this is a great option for those watches on the thicker side who love the versatility of a NATO. Well done, I hope the sales go well. I'm certainly interested.
The point of this Zero Pass is keep the NATO appearance once installed, but without the buck under the clock. This Grappleband, the CNS Paratrooper strap, the "RAF strap"... avoid the bulk, but don't have the same appearance of the NATO strap - after all people buy NATO strap due their look.
The Watch Steward has been making a strap basically like this for ages. It just doesn't have the loop keepers and instead has an MN clasp. But still, pretty much the same thing.
Not a fan of double pass natos. Single pass are amazing however. I think the beauty of a nato is being able to keep your watch safe in case of a spring bar failure.
Fun idea! It looks like you took the single pass NATO strap and widened the inner loop to allow the hand to pass through. The tradeoff from a practicality standpoint is reasonable (just look at any standard watch strap and if a spring bar breaks the watch will fall), but I think the fact that you have to slide your hand through before tightening (as opposed to just slapping it on your wrist) makes this more of a difficult sell (Apple does this with their elastic bands, but now there is the added complexity of tightening it down). Could you have achieved a similar aesthetic result (and I guess conventional result if we're considering the weight distribution) with a conventional 2-piece fabric strap by just doubling the layers?
1. There are single pass natos 2. That way of using a nato defeats the purpose of a nato strap. 3. If you still want to use a nato with 0 pass, there are 2-piece "nato" straps and you don't need that 2-layer strap on each side of the watch. Why would anybody go for this design beats me...
I would love a zero pass leather strap for the FXD. Would you consider doing removable hardware to make it fixed lug compatible for the future? Look at what Erika’s and Nick Manley designs do for fixed lug compatibility if that helps
I just got my honey Dijon nylon in the mail and I LOVE it! I’m using it on my white dial Hamilton Khaki Field Expedition. It’s a perfect match. The mustard strap matches the faux lume on the hands. I had completely given up on NATO straps even though I love the look. Even a single pass feels weird on my wrist. I don’t care that the zero pass loses the feature of staying put if you break a spring bar. I don’t worry about that with my other 20 rubber, leather, and metal straps. In 50 years of wearing watches I’ve never had a spring bar fail. So why would I worry about it with this one? Max, you’ve created a total hit. Way to go!!!
Very cool design Max and especially love the innovation and creativity! Looking forward to hopefully trying a zero pass on one of our watches soon! Hope all is well on your end and thank you for the great video! All the best, Ben
Nice product! However I have a 9.25 wrist. Wear 60mm watch and use NATO now. I like the fact there is not material underneath the watch. Do you make longer versions?
Congrats, Max! Love the concept and this is exactly what ive been looking for for my Marathon Navigator Stainless Date. Its such a thin military watch and single and double pass NATOs just unbalance it.
Congrats on developing a new design. Personally, as well as the strap thickness behind the caseback, I hate the visual bulk above 12 o'clock and the keeper below 6. What are the advantages of this compared to a two piece nylon strap which will look sleeker yet also utilitarian? Still happy you're doing something new!
Congratulations! Does it come with different length. I don’t like the look of two fold at the end, it was my main issue to go with nato straps. For my BB 58 I ordered the original nato strap
I’m going to point out the obvious: this design forgoes the primary advantage of a nato/Zulu strap - if a single spring bar goes, so does the whole watch. I use natos when out on the water.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial honestly, I got about half way through before clicking away because IMHO it was all a little ridiculous. I did see that it was mentioned, but I’d already written the comment and still believe it stands. You can buy a regular watch strap made of nylon for a nato appearance if you don’t want the underpass. The whole thing smacks of solving a problem that doesn’t exist, or if you want to put it another way, solving a problem that’s already been solved but doing it in an alternative and inferior way. No matter how you slice it, I wouldn’t consider the new thing to be superior in any way to any of the alternative old things. And it eliminates the primary advantage of the old solution. No matter how I look at it, the new thing doesn’t have a purpose, IMO. And it specifically eliminates a purpose of the old thing. But hey, the world is full of all kinds. If you can sell something to them, what do I care? I’m not buying it. 🤷
Max crunchy brother hey with that material what do you think about putting a deployment clasp on it kind of like the orias almost like a nylon NATO but more like a braided nylon leash you've seen the Oreos with a deployment clasp think about it I would purchase one from you also make the band uniform no taper and in a 20 mm for those of us who often switch bands between watches
Max, honestly this looks pretty intricate to put on every morning. Maybe needs some practice. It eliminates the safety advantages of a NATO but is still bulky, only flipped the double layer UNDER your wrist. I would prefer an innovative flat strap under my wrist when working in the office. Most of my NATOs wear good and fill the space under the lugs, so the watches sit very well (better than with single layer straps). I think I recall a similar strap technique (with leather) at a 1940s vintage watch I got offered in Switzerland about 25 years ago. Interesting you had the same idea now. Colors and designs look great and prices are ok too (my NATOS are between 12,- and 200€) Wishing you a perfect start!
Sorry, but all you did is to defeat the purpose of a NATO or Zulu strap. Now if a spring bar breaks, the watch falls off your wrist. Recommend a Zulu strap for one layer below the watch OR the alternate method of attaching a standard NATO that again is only one layer below the watch which also has the added benefit of now moving the strap to the bottom of the wrist versus on the outside, which is just plain annoying.
This could already be achieved by simply removing the lower keeper that normally would keep the watch head from falling off the strap when it's not on a wrist. Which of course in this case is purely aesthetic and has no function.
🔥 WHAT SIZE LUG WIDTH WILL IT FIT? 🔥 .. Nevermind. 20mm and 22mm. I saw that on your site. I just bought two. Can’t wait. Thank you for solving a problem I can’t believe nobody solved until now. 👊🍻
The thing I like about the nato is that it puts material between wrist and watch. This stops sweating and sticking. So I simply use the single pass over the back of the watch and the bulk goes under the bottom of my wrist. Best compromise. But nice alternative design. Well done.
Love this idea, is there a size available for those of us with larger wrist? IE: 11" wrist? nevertheless great idea here. thanks for your innovation and bringing it to market.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Please do. I just saw this and was thrilled, then let down to find only standard "up to 8" wrist". At 8.25 I fall only just slightly over average, but in reality it only takes that quarter inch to put us out of consideration. I'm not even that big a guy. Think about really big dudes.. athletes (fighters, strongmen, etc), military, husky, the list goes on. We over average of wrist love our watches, too! Trust me.
Will this come out in the 18mm? Just ONE case of many, I imagine there are a lot of seagull 1963 owners that a) don't mind paying for accoutrement more expensive that the watch and b) could really use a zero pass on that thick case for 38mm.
almost flicked away at the infomercial style in the beginning, but hung around and can see it's a decent idea - and good job on sourcing that leather you should probably link the site in the description box
I love the strap! Well done on resolving an age old issue! I was ready to order the grey but shipping to the uk costs as much as the strap. Would there be a cheaper option please as this just not worth it.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I have purchased from Uncle and longisland watches and they both between $10-15 shipping to the UK. They use fedex or apc should this help.
love those, I saw way too many conent creators use their platform and their new brand to overprice these things very hard. but 40€ for canvas and 80€ for leather is very, very good. I am looking to buy my first strap for my baltic hermetique and look into the more traditional, italian niche, but am sure I will come back to the Pseudo natos quite soon. Congratulations, seems like a well thought through product!
Would love for someone to design a nato strap where the “bulk” resides on the underside of the wrist rather than on the side. Especially for a small wrist like mine where you have to tuck the end of the strap in that extra bulk above the 12 o’clock looks unsightly when you’re looking at the watch imo
On the face of it, it's a, cool idea but when I think about it, it doesn't really make sense. We use NATO style straps in particularly rough environments and have to put up with the wierd loop and keeper at the side of the wrist as a, trade off for keeping the watch on your wrist if you lose a spring bar. There's no real point in having that awkward looking piece if you're not going to have the protection. It's better to buy a good standard canvas or nylon strap as it just looks better. Or, cut off the double pass bit or use an original single pass while still having the safety with a bit less bulk under the watch. A good quality single pass or a cut away NATO will not feel flimsy at all. What we have here is a strap that's not very esthetic but it doesn't provide the safety. It's basically an ugly looking strap with no real benefit with unnecessary bulk on your wrist for no good reason.
Is there a version without the stitched in keeper? If there was I think it would be a cleaner look and would be much easier to switch out straps (and would fit on my FXD!), I would get one immediately!
This is what I was wondering. How necessary is that keeper? It would be smoother on the wrist without it. I wonder if it’s just there to replicate the look of a NATO with zero pass.
Never had a problem with the supposed bulk/height of a NATO, and I wear a lot on various watches. As I type this I have a 42mm diver on a leather NATO/Zulu and doesn’t feel tall or “wobbly”
Pretty cool. I'd be seriously down to try one of these Zero Pass straps. The only thing I hope you change or maybe add to the collection is different hardware. Not a big fan of the Zulu style hardware with the large rings which never seem to sit completely flat against the strap as they can often be a bit larger than they need to be... Rather they can be angled flatter against the strap, but they can also shift to another direction if you know what I mean? Not to steal your thunder here, but, a similar concept, but, perhaps with the MN strap design in mind with an elastic strap and hooking hardware are straps from The Watch Steward. They are made to order and there are a number of color choices as well as configurations to be made. I personally prefer their "minimalist" configuration as it eliminates one extra layer that their original design configuration has as well as makes it less likely to scratch the lugs with the adjustment hardware on the strap as you're putting it on.
I think it largely depends on the watch. I have no problem at all with the double pass on my watches, it barely shows. Also, the fact that it's a bit upward removes the problem of the crown scratching the hand skin : it gives more flexibility to the hand, especially when I am physically active. Finally, I appreciate the fact that I can change the strap without touching the springs.
@@bbuck1bbuck1 Yes. It's a debate on NATO and as the majority seems to not like NATO design, I thought I would share a different opinion and defend it. Don't take it as a criticism or an agression for the project, anyway, just reading at the comments, there is obviously a market so it's going to work. We all have a choice now. Just a gentleman talk, thank you.
We're thrilled to have had the opportunity to collaborate with you on this exciting new project! 🙌This design is bound to reshape people's perceptions of NATO straps, without a doubt!
@@WatchCrunchOfficial brooo you're getting destroyed in the comments. Apparently the poor folk who paid months ago have not even received it!!! And your product is crap. It's a sad sad day in the watch world.
Actually I thought of this already and congratulation for making this. Ialways feel that the 1.3mm or so thickness look awkward on my skinny wrist so I welcome a thicker strap or a thin double strap. I like this configuration especially for my thicker watches. While you're working on it, can you please make one with the elastic marine national material. Im sure this new design will be a hit and will be a popular option. So work double time bro before others catch up.
I don’t have any issues with the strap running under the watch on NATO straps. What I don’t care for is the extra bulk created by the strap looping up and back through the keepers which this strap sadly preserves.
Find the Zero Pass strap at: www.anachronist.shop
That is awesome! Do you ship to Europe?
Makes me want to vomit. What a stupid idea.
Can I get my product? Purchased 12/8/23 and still do not have a tracking # or a resolution as of 1/3/24.
@@jaylee9356 not really worth purchasing in the first place. It's unfortunate to hear that it hasn't arrived. His organization sounds like it's as bad as the product
Placed an order at the beginning of December, the email with tracking number was received on the junk folder then automatically deleted. I contacted them several times no response. Still didn’t receive my order and they didn’t respond to provide me with the tracking number so I can follow up.
I guess I am failing to see why someone wouldn’t just buy a normal 2 piece strap that looks more finished since you removed the whole reason of using a NATO which is to have a fail safe if a spring bar breaks.
This only makes sense if you have the Tutor FXD.
@@bbuck1bbuck1even then... it doesn't make sense.
Although I agree with you, I think some people may just want the nato look without the added thickness.
@@bbuck1bbuck1His strap doesn't work with fixed lugs.
Was gonna say this. Looks like NATO but has none of the functionality. Good luck w/ your product - I’m sure there’s a market.
Sorry to be blunt, but that it pointless. The whole purpose of a NATO strap is to save the watch when one spring bar breaks. This strap doesn’t do that, so you may as well wear a two-piece fabric strap.
But one piece strap can solve the problem with losing one springbar. Doesn't it?
Nato design singularly was to prevent the entire watch slipping off through loose fixed bar lugs that were common back in the day. That's the only reason for the extra strap and loop. There's a documentary about it.
This is like trying to get into the drivers seat in a car, but from the trunk.
This defeats the purpose of using a Nato. Nato straps are tool straps to avoid your watch from falling off your wrist if one of the spring bars is busted. Makes no sense.
It’s for aesthetic and balance, not for the purpose of a nato. If you are a purpose-driven enthusiast, you won’t want this strap.
One of my favorite features of NATO straps is that you don't have to remove spring bars to install them. So easy to change to a new strap every morning. Would love to see a version which can pass right through, without having to remove that one spring bar
Without upsetting, its perfectly possibly to do a zero pass with a normal single pass nato
@@kbeightyseven1783I'd imagine you'd need a longer strap, right? I'm not sure how I'd do it with a standard single pass NATO.
@tomek1678 yes a long nato
Quick release spring bars would only add a few seconds to the process if you did it every day or so and got good at it
Soooooo you made a longer strap to just loop it differently making it less secure. This isn't that great of an idea
Bro said “what if I ripped off a CNS Paratrooper strap… and made it worse?” 😮
Also, patent pending means nothing from a legal standpoint until it’s awarded.
So basically you remove the intended functionality of the NATO and just focus on aesthetics. The antithesis of what a tool watch is all about but hey look, it’s thinner!!
You lost me when you said it didn't do the function of what the Nato strap was designed to do but keep the look.
There's already 2-piece Nato strap out there
I had a spring bar snap off on a field excursion . My NATO saved my watch. NATOs aren’t about “ the look.” They are designed to save your watch in rugged outdoor activities. It was never designed for desk divers.
99% of people are not using it for safety stop coping
Spot on. Desk Divers . With money to burn. 😂😅
@@user-tx4wj7qk4t Due to the springbars, I have had my cheap seiko come off my wrist twice at work and hit the floor. If I was wearing my nato on those occasions it would not have fallen.
I love how easy it is to change nato straps for different looks, I love knowing that 1 missing spring bar won't drop my watch, but these aren't essential for everyday. I do congratulate you on the innovation shown here in such an established form factor of a wristwatch. I'm looking forward to giving one a go 👌
This sacrifices function for form, i guess it depends on which one is more important to you.
Very cool. For me though, I like NATO and MN straps because they remove the negative space between the spring bar and the case that you get with a leather band and some bracelets. This isn’t for me, but well done!
Nice one Max, this is a great option for those watches on the thicker side who love the versatility of a NATO. Well done, I hope the sales go well. I'm certainly interested.
Hawkrigger "Grappleband Fixed Bar" is a very similar concept and eliminates the excess fold over for those that dislike the bulk.
Lol man, this is literally a copy of the Grappleband with just different hardware.
The point of this Zero Pass is keep the NATO appearance once installed, but without the buck under the clock.
This Grappleband, the CNS Paratrooper strap, the "RAF strap"... avoid the bulk, but don't have the same appearance of the NATO strap - after all people buy NATO strap due their look.
This is a great idea! Will work great on my thick cased chronograph
The Watch Steward has been making a strap basically like this for ages. It just doesn't have the loop keepers and instead has an MN clasp. But still, pretty much the same thing.
I was thinking this. I’m all for more cool options, but nothing has been “invented” here. A pre-existing idea has been adapted to apply to NATOs 🤨
Just received mine today. Have to say this is pretty amazing. I am impressed. Good job!
Not a fan of double pass natos. Single pass are amazing however. I think the beauty of a nato is being able to keep your watch safe in case of a spring bar failure.
Well you could always just sneak a piece of thread inside both parts the zero pass strap at the springbars.
Imagine having springbars fail
Laughs in pocket watch user
Are you guys on the spectrum? You're not in the military lmao
Totally defeats the intended purpose of a NATO strap……to stop the head of the watch from being lost if a spring bar fails.
Fun idea! It looks like you took the single pass NATO strap and widened the inner loop to allow the hand to pass through. The tradeoff from a practicality standpoint is reasonable (just look at any standard watch strap and if a spring bar breaks the watch will fall), but I think the fact that you have to slide your hand through before tightening (as opposed to just slapping it on your wrist) makes this more of a difficult sell (Apple does this with their elastic bands, but now there is the added complexity of tightening it down). Could you have achieved a similar aesthetic result (and I guess conventional result if we're considering the weight distribution) with a conventional 2-piece fabric strap by just doubling the layers?
It has the downsides of both the nato and a normal strap! I'm not sure I see the point in this
We wanted to keep it to one piece and retain the nato aesthetic. There are more additions than just lengthening the strap if you look closer ;)
so when will you come out with a version that works on fixed bars? anything in the works?
3years+,you say?? I took my strap to a tailor's,had it cut and sewn. Took like half an hour.
I may be a genius.
Love what you’ve done here. Any plans to make a thinner version that will fit a pelagos fxd?
Wait so do we have to remove spring bar every single time when wearing the watch?? Can someone confirm please
1. There are single pass natos
2. That way of using a nato defeats the purpose of a nato strap.
3. If you still want to use a nato with 0 pass, there are 2-piece "nato" straps and you don't need that 2-layer strap on each side of the watch.
Why would anybody go for this design beats me...
Love you too
Seeing how you respond to legit criticism with solid points tells us a lot about your maturity man
@@roepetoepa have a better day
Have you started shipping the Zero Pass Straps yet? Placed an order on 12/8 and wanted to see if they'd arrive by Christmas.
I would love a zero pass leather strap for the FXD. Would you consider doing removable hardware to make it fixed lug compatible for the future? Look at what Erika’s and Nick Manley designs do for fixed lug compatibility if that helps
We definitely prototyped it, will keep your comment in mind, thanks!
Yah, more options for the FXD would be fantastic
Thank you for this comment. I was on my way to purchase the grey one for my FXD but glad I didn’t blind fire the credit card trigger!
Lol. I've had my spring bars fail and the nato strap has saved my watch from just obliterating itself from my stupidity.
This literally serves no purpose... If you lose a spring bar, you can kiss your speedy goodbye...🤠
I just got my honey Dijon nylon in the mail and I LOVE it! I’m using it on my white dial Hamilton Khaki Field Expedition. It’s a perfect match. The mustard strap matches the faux lume on the hands. I had completely given up on NATO straps even though I love the look. Even a single pass feels weird on my wrist. I don’t care that the zero pass loses the feature of staying put if you break a spring bar. I don’t worry about that with my other 20 rubber, leather, and metal straps. In 50 years of wearing watches I’ve never had a spring bar fail. So why would I worry about it with this one? Max, you’ve created a total hit. Way to go!!!
Very cool design Max and especially love the innovation and creativity! Looking forward to hopefully trying a zero pass on one of our watches soon! Hope all is well on your end and thank you for the great video!
All the best,
Ben
Thanks for the support Ben!
Oh man, this is such a fantastic idea! Impatiently waiting for a version in black. 👍
interesting design but curious why this is superior to a normal 2 piece strap?
because it's one piece ;)
They look great Max - best ideas are always simple! Be good if David (at ST) could ship direct for your UK customers - is that a possibility?
Yes I will talk to him about this if the launch goes well
Hey what model of IWC was that you tried the NATO on? It looked great.
Can this work on fixed lugs and what size would u reco for 19mm fixed lug watch?
Nice product! However I have a 9.25 wrist. Wear 60mm watch and use NATO now. I like the fact there is not material underneath the watch. Do you make longer versions?
Very cool. Thanks for putting this up.
Congrats, Max! Love the concept and this is exactly what ive been looking for for my Marathon Navigator Stainless Date. Its such a thin military watch and single and double pass NATOs just unbalance it.
You get it!!!
Congrats on developing a new design.
Personally, as well as the strap thickness behind the caseback, I hate the visual bulk above 12 o'clock and the keeper below 6.
What are the advantages of this compared to a two piece nylon strap which will look sleeker yet also utilitarian?
Still happy you're doing something new!
I like the tuck, and wanted to stick with one piece design
Congratulations! Does it come with different length. I don’t like the look of two fold at the end, it was my main issue to go with nato straps. For my BB 58 I ordered the original nato strap
I’m going to point out the obvious: this design forgoes the primary advantage of a nato/Zulu strap - if a single spring bar goes, so does the whole watch. I use natos when out on the water.
did you watch the video? This was mentioned heavily
@@WatchCrunchOfficial honestly, I got about half way through before clicking away because IMHO it was all a little ridiculous. I did see that it was mentioned, but I’d already written the comment and still believe it stands. You can buy a regular watch strap made of nylon for a nato appearance if you don’t want the underpass. The whole thing smacks of solving a problem that doesn’t exist, or if you want to put it another way, solving a problem that’s already been solved but doing it in an alternative and inferior way. No matter how you slice it, I wouldn’t consider the new thing to be superior in any way to any of the alternative old things. And it eliminates the primary advantage of the old solution. No matter how I look at it, the new thing doesn’t have a purpose, IMO. And it specifically eliminates a purpose of the old thing.
But hey, the world is full of all kinds. If you can sell something to them, what do I care? I’m not buying it. 🤷
Ok, but the purpose of a NATO is to ensure even if one lug fails the watch is not lost. Doesn’t this mean you lose your watch now if not side fails,
can you use these straps with a watch that has fixed spring bars?
Negative, gotta remove the 12 o clock spring bar
anyone know the model of the white Seiko 5? Straps look great, love many of the combos
Max crunchy brother hey with that material what do you think about putting a deployment clasp on it kind of like the orias almost like a nylon NATO but more like a braided nylon leash you've seen the Oreos with a deployment clasp think about it I would purchase one from you also make the band uniform no taper and in a 20 mm for those of us who often switch bands between watches
Good idea, but I really wanted to retain that Nato aesthetic on this one!
So it’s a single pass strap tied differently?
Looks cumbersome to take off. I might break the spring bars as I take it off lol. It is a fresh idea though.
Max, honestly this looks pretty intricate to put on every morning. Maybe needs some practice.
It eliminates the safety advantages of a NATO but is still bulky, only flipped the double layer UNDER your wrist. I would prefer an innovative flat strap under my wrist when working in the office.
Most of my NATOs wear good and fill the space under the lugs, so the watches sit very well (better than with single layer straps).
I think I recall a similar strap technique (with leather) at a 1940s vintage watch I got offered in Switzerland about 25 years ago. Interesting you had the same idea now.
Colors and designs look great and prices are ok too (my NATOS are between 12,- and 200€)
Wishing you a perfect start!
I love the idea but before I spend that much for something to go on my moonswatch, how does it truly accommodate an 8 inch wrist?
It will fit
Sorry, but all you did is to defeat the purpose of a NATO or Zulu strap. Now if a spring bar breaks, the watch falls off your wrist.
Recommend a Zulu strap for one layer below the watch OR the alternate method of attaching a standard NATO that again is only one layer below the watch which also has the added benefit of now moving the strap to the bottom of the wrist versus on the outside, which is just plain annoying.
This is clearly addressed in the video
Max, the next stage is one where there is no removal of either spring bar. This is possible and fairly easy I think. Good job on gen1 though!
This could already be achieved by simply removing the lower keeper that normally would keep the watch head from falling off the strap when it's not on a wrist.
Which of course in this case is purely aesthetic and has no function.
🔥 WHAT SIZE LUG WIDTH WILL IT FIT? 🔥 .. Nevermind. 20mm and 22mm. I saw that on your site. I just bought two. Can’t wait. Thank you for solving a problem I can’t believe nobody solved until now. 👊🍻
Let's go Harry 😁!!
Hey, can you do one with thin flat keepers?
Got mine on the way for my tudor 925 ! Great new option , good price too !
This is a simple brilliant idea! Might be just the thing that gets me into Natos again.
Hehe, I'm a fan again 😎
The thing I like about the nato is that it puts material between wrist and watch. This stops sweating and sticking. So I simply use the single pass over the back of the watch and the bulk goes under the bottom of my wrist. Best compromise.
But nice alternative design. Well done.
Love this idea, is there a size available for those of us with larger wrist? IE: 11" wrist? nevertheless great idea here. thanks for your innovation and bringing it to market.
Only up to 8"currently but I'll keep this in mind 👍
yeah even a 8.5-9 inch variant would be nice@@WatchCrunchOfficial
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Please do. I just saw this and was thrilled, then let down to find only standard "up to 8" wrist". At 8.25 I fall only just slightly over average, but in reality it only takes that quarter inch to put us out of consideration. I'm not even that big a guy. Think about really big dudes.. athletes (fighters, strongmen, etc), military, husky, the list goes on. We over average of wrist love our watches, too! Trust me.
Will this come out in the 18mm? Just ONE case of many, I imagine there are a lot of seagull 1963 owners that a) don't mind paying for accoutrement more expensive that the watch and b) could really use a zero pass on that thick case for 38mm.
Exactly, this is great on thicker watches. 18 coming soon
almost flicked away at the infomercial style in the beginning, but hung around and can see it's a decent idea - and good job on sourcing that leather
you should probably link the site in the description box
Good idea!
I love the strap! Well done on resolving an age old issue! I was ready to order the grey but shipping to the uk costs as much as the strap. Would there be a cheaper option please as this just not worth it.
I just changed the shipping to a standard rate. International is going to be expensive period
@@WatchCrunchOfficial I have purchased from Uncle and longisland watches and they both between $10-15 shipping to the UK. They use fedex or apc should this help.
Love the straps, I think I'm going to try one on a Glycine Goldeneye but don't know if it should be Ron Burgundy (prob) or Anthracite
Congrats man !!!
So you have to remove the Spring Bar to use this ?
Just ordered my grey zero pass NATO. Would love to see a navy blue option down the road 😎
This is very cool. Is it awkward to take on and off.
Not really once you get the hang of it, probably same as a regular nato
Nice do you recommend leather or nylon for mm300??
love those, I saw way too many conent creators use their platform and their new brand to overprice these things very hard. but 40€ for canvas and 80€ for leather is very, very good. I am looking to buy my first strap for my baltic hermetique and look into the more traditional, italian niche, but am sure I will come back to the Pseudo natos quite soon. Congratulations, seems like a well thought through product!
Appreciate your kind words!
Would love for someone to design a nato strap where the “bulk” resides on the underside of the wrist rather than on the side. Especially for a small wrist like mine where you have to tuck the end of the strap in that extra bulk above the 12 o’clock looks unsightly when you’re looking at the watch imo
Use a single pass NATO and wear the watch lower on the strap.
On the face of it, it's a, cool idea but when I think about it, it doesn't really make sense. We use NATO style straps in particularly rough environments and have to put up with the wierd loop and keeper at the side of the wrist as a, trade off for keeping the watch on your wrist if you lose a spring bar. There's no real point in having that awkward looking piece if you're not going to have the protection. It's better to buy a good standard canvas or nylon strap as it just looks better. Or, cut off the double pass bit or use an original single pass while still having the safety with a bit less bulk under the watch. A good quality single pass or a cut away NATO will not feel flimsy at all. What we have here is a strap that's not very esthetic but it doesn't provide the safety. It's basically an ugly looking strap with no real benefit with unnecessary bulk on your wrist for no good reason.
Thanks! Just ordered
I love this. But the shipping to Australia is far too expensive. $66 AUD just for shipping
just changed it to a standard $35 for international
@@WatchCrunchOfficial do you understand the concept of exchange rates?
Congrats man ..Something innovative and practical …
Thanks brother 🙏
Can i send it back if i don't like it ?
Neat! 👏 Kudos on bringing a fresh idea to life. It's definitely more challenging than it seems!
Thanks Nick! Love that we had similar solutions with different aesthetics. The community needs more innovation!
damn that looks so good it makes me want to get a speedy just to put it on a leather nato like yours
😉👍
Is there a version without the stitched in keeper? If there was I think it would be a cleaner look and would be much easier to switch out straps (and would fit on my FXD!), I would get one immediately!
This is what I was wondering. How necessary is that keeper? It would be smoother on the wrist without it. I wonder if it’s just there to replicate the look of a NATO with zero pass.
Now I think about it without that keeper it’s just a long single pass. Not patentable and doesn’t replicate the look of a NATO
Good point, but I would prefer it without the keeper.
It gets too floppy without the extra keeper, and I found I had to readjust the overlap throughout the day
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Cool. Well I’m glad it’s functional as well as looking the part. I wish you success with this product
I use my double pass natos as a single pass, it's simple although I think your idea is a winner 👍
Thanks Jason!
Great! I would order if there where blacked or titanium buckles.
Mazel tov on the new straps! Much success!
Cheers!
Any intention to make 19mm for Omega speedmaster fois
I just chop off the extra loop on a NATO strap and turn it into a pass through. I can never find the design I like on pass throughs.
bruh just get a 3 ring zulu strap. it’s less thick but you still get the robustness of a nato strap.
Never had a problem with the supposed bulk/height of a NATO, and I wear a lot on various watches. As I type this I have a 42mm diver on a leather NATO/Zulu and doesn’t feel tall or “wobbly”
Pls provide link to sales site !!
Pretty cool. I'd be seriously down to try one of these Zero Pass straps.
The only thing I hope you change or maybe add to the collection is different hardware. Not a big fan of the Zulu style hardware with the large rings which never seem to sit completely flat against the strap as they can often be a bit larger than they need to be... Rather they can be angled flatter against the strap, but they can also shift to another direction if you know what I mean?
Not to steal your thunder here, but, a similar concept, but, perhaps with the MN strap design in mind with an elastic strap and hooking hardware are straps from The Watch Steward. They are made to order and there are a number of color choices as well as configurations to be made. I personally prefer their "minimalist" configuration as it eliminates one extra layer that their original design configuration has as well as makes it less likely to scratch the lugs with the adjustment hardware on the strap as you're putting it on.
Cool I'll check then out, mine is designed to look just like a nato
Would love to have a version of this where I didn't need to remove the 12 o'clock spring bar.
I think it largely depends on the watch. I have no problem at all with the double pass on my watches, it barely shows. Also, the fact that it's a bit upward removes the problem of the crown scratching the hand skin : it gives more flexibility to the hand, especially when I am physically active.
Finally, I appreciate the fact that I can change the strap without touching the springs.
Okay well if it’s not a problem for you then you won’t buy it. I mean.
@@bbuck1bbuck1 Yes. It's a debate on NATO and as the majority seems to not like NATO design, I thought I would share a different opinion and defend it.
Don't take it as a criticism or an agression for the project, anyway, just reading at the comments, there is obviously a market so it's going to work.
We all have a choice now.
Just a gentleman talk, thank you.
Lol I came up with this when I first got into watches, but natos always looked cheap so i never wore them 😅 I didn't realize this was new!
Great minds think alike
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Haha clearly! Good luck with your strap store!
We're thrilled to have had the opportunity to collaborate with you on this exciting new project! 🙌This design is bound to reshape people's perceptions of NATO straps, without a doubt!
@twostickstraps you guys are a class act through this entire process, thanks so much for helping to bring this from idea to reality!
Hahah but it isn’t a nato anymore
@@WatchCrunchOfficial brooo you're getting destroyed in the comments. Apparently the poor folk who paid months ago have not even received it!!! And your product is crap. It's a sad sad day in the watch world.
Actually I thought of this already and congratulation for making this. Ialways feel that the 1.3mm or so thickness look awkward on my skinny wrist so I welcome a thicker strap or a thin double strap. I like this configuration especially for my thicker watches. While you're working on it, can you please make one with the elastic marine national material. Im sure this new design will be a hit and will be a popular option. So work double time bro before others catch up.
I don’t have any issues with the strap running under the watch on NATO straps. What I don’t care for is the extra bulk created by the strap looping up and back through the keepers which this strap sadly preserves.
Incredibly brilliant!!!
"Never had one fail on me." Everybody knows what's a statement to regret later.
A zero pass nato is kinda like a dive style watch though, isn't it? Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with either.
I have never owned a NATO strap. I think this defeats the purpose personally. But having tried neither how can I know?
Great idea! Just ordered !
Thanks 👍