@@jaylee9356 not really worth purchasing in the first place. It's unfortunate to hear that it hasn't arrived. His organization sounds like it's as bad as the product
Placed an order at the beginning of December, the email with tracking number was received on the junk folder then automatically deleted. I contacted them several times no response. Still didn’t receive my order and they didn’t respond to provide me with the tracking number so I can follow up.
I guess I am failing to see why someone wouldn’t just buy a normal 2 piece strap that looks more finished since you removed the whole reason of using a NATO which is to have a fail safe if a spring bar breaks.
Sorry to be blunt, but that it pointless. The whole purpose of a NATO strap is to save the watch when one spring bar breaks. This strap doesn’t do that, so you may as well wear a two-piece fabric strap.
One of my favorite features of NATO straps is that you don't have to remove spring bars to install them. So easy to change to a new strap every morning. Would love to see a version which can pass right through, without having to remove that one spring bar
I had a spring bar snap off on a field excursion . My NATO saved my watch. NATOs aren’t about “ the look.” They are designed to save your watch in rugged outdoor activities. It was never designed for desk divers.
Bro said “what if I ripped off a CNS Paratrooper strap… and made it worse?” 😮 Also, patent pending means nothing from a legal standpoint until it’s awarded.
Very cool. For me though, I like NATO and MN straps because they remove the negative space between the spring bar and the case that you get with a leather band and some bracelets. This isn’t for me, but well done!
I love how easy it is to change nato straps for different looks, I love knowing that 1 missing spring bar won't drop my watch, but these aren't essential for everyday. I do congratulate you on the innovation shown here in such an established form factor of a wristwatch. I'm looking forward to giving one a go 👌
The point of this Zero Pass is keep the NATO appearance once installed, but without the buck under the clock. This Grappleband, the CNS Paratrooper strap, the "RAF strap"... avoid the bulk, but don't have the same appearance of the NATO strap - after all people buy NATO strap due their look.
Not a fan of double pass natos. Single pass are amazing however. I think the beauty of a nato is being able to keep your watch safe in case of a spring bar failure.
The Watch Steward has been making a strap basically like this for ages. It just doesn't have the loop keepers and instead has an MN clasp. But still, pretty much the same thing.
We're thrilled to have had the opportunity to collaborate with you on this exciting new project! 🙌This design is bound to reshape people's perceptions of NATO straps, without a doubt!
@@WatchCrunchOfficial brooo you're getting destroyed in the comments. Apparently the poor folk who paid months ago have not even received it!!! And your product is crap. It's a sad sad day in the watch world.
Very cool design Max and especially love the innovation and creativity! Looking forward to hopefully trying a zero pass on one of our watches soon! Hope all is well on your end and thank you for the great video! All the best, Ben
Nice one Max, this is a great option for those watches on the thicker side who love the versatility of a NATO. Well done, I hope the sales go well. I'm certainly interested.
I’m going to point out the obvious: this design forgoes the primary advantage of a nato/Zulu strap - if a single spring bar goes, so does the whole watch. I use natos when out on the water.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial honestly, I got about half way through before clicking away because IMHO it was all a little ridiculous. I did see that it was mentioned, but I’d already written the comment and still believe it stands. You can buy a regular watch strap made of nylon for a nato appearance if you don’t want the underpass. The whole thing smacks of solving a problem that doesn’t exist, or if you want to put it another way, solving a problem that’s already been solved but doing it in an alternative and inferior way. No matter how you slice it, I wouldn’t consider the new thing to be superior in any way to any of the alternative old things. And it eliminates the primary advantage of the old solution. No matter how I look at it, the new thing doesn’t have a purpose, IMO. And it specifically eliminates a purpose of the old thing. But hey, the world is full of all kinds. If you can sell something to them, what do I care? I’m not buying it. 🤷
Fun idea! It looks like you took the single pass NATO strap and widened the inner loop to allow the hand to pass through. The tradeoff from a practicality standpoint is reasonable (just look at any standard watch strap and if a spring bar breaks the watch will fall), but I think the fact that you have to slide your hand through before tightening (as opposed to just slapping it on your wrist) makes this more of a difficult sell (Apple does this with their elastic bands, but now there is the added complexity of tightening it down). Could you have achieved a similar aesthetic result (and I guess conventional result if we're considering the weight distribution) with a conventional 2-piece fabric strap by just doubling the layers?
Max, honestly this looks pretty intricate to put on every morning. Maybe needs some practice. It eliminates the safety advantages of a NATO but is still bulky, only flipped the double layer UNDER your wrist. I would prefer an innovative flat strap under my wrist when working in the office. Most of my NATOs wear good and fill the space under the lugs, so the watches sit very well (better than with single layer straps). I think I recall a similar strap technique (with leather) at a 1940s vintage watch I got offered in Switzerland about 25 years ago. Interesting you had the same idea now. Colors and designs look great and prices are ok too (my NATOS are between 12,- and 200€) Wishing you a perfect start!
I just got my honey Dijon nylon in the mail and I LOVE it! I’m using it on my white dial Hamilton Khaki Field Expedition. It’s a perfect match. The mustard strap matches the faux lume on the hands. I had completely given up on NATO straps even though I love the look. Even a single pass feels weird on my wrist. I don’t care that the zero pass loses the feature of staying put if you break a spring bar. I don’t worry about that with my other 20 rubber, leather, and metal straps. In 50 years of wearing watches I’ve never had a spring bar fail. So why would I worry about it with this one? Max, you’ve created a total hit. Way to go!!!
I would love a zero pass leather strap for the FXD. Would you consider doing removable hardware to make it fixed lug compatible for the future? Look at what Erika’s and Nick Manley designs do for fixed lug compatibility if that helps
So basically you remove the intended functionality of the NATO and just focus on aesthetics. The antithesis of what a tool watch is all about but hey look, it’s thinner!!
On the face of it, it's a, cool idea but when I think about it, it doesn't really make sense. We use NATO style straps in particularly rough environments and have to put up with the wierd loop and keeper at the side of the wrist as a, trade off for keeping the watch on your wrist if you lose a spring bar. There's no real point in having that awkward looking piece if you're not going to have the protection. It's better to buy a good standard canvas or nylon strap as it just looks better. Or, cut off the double pass bit or use an original single pass while still having the safety with a bit less bulk under the watch. A good quality single pass or a cut away NATO will not feel flimsy at all. What we have here is a strap that's not very esthetic but it doesn't provide the safety. It's basically an ugly looking strap with no real benefit with unnecessary bulk on your wrist for no good reason.
Great design. I like NATO look, but I can't stand the extra length that has to be tugged on the other end. My wrist is only 6.25 in, so can you guys make a short version of this for small wrist size?
1. There are single pass natos 2. That way of using a nato defeats the purpose of a nato strap. 3. If you still want to use a nato with 0 pass, there are 2-piece "nato" straps and you don't need that 2-layer strap on each side of the watch. Why would anybody go for this design beats me...
Congratulations! Does it come with different length. I don’t like the look of two fold at the end, it was my main issue to go with nato straps. For my BB 58 I ordered the original nato strap
Congrats on developing a new design. Personally, as well as the strap thickness behind the caseback, I hate the visual bulk above 12 o'clock and the keeper below 6. What are the advantages of this compared to a two piece nylon strap which will look sleeker yet also utilitarian? Still happy you're doing something new!
This defeats the purpose of using a Nato. Nato straps are tool straps to avoid your watch from falling off your wrist if one of the spring bars is busted. Makes no sense.
🔥 WHAT SIZE LUG WIDTH WILL IT FIT? 🔥 .. Nevermind. 20mm and 22mm. I saw that on your site. I just bought two. Can’t wait. Thank you for solving a problem I can’t believe nobody solved until now. 👊🍻
Will this come out in the 18mm? Just ONE case of many, I imagine there are a lot of seagull 1963 owners that a) don't mind paying for accoutrement more expensive that the watch and b) could really use a zero pass on that thick case for 38mm.
Nice product! However I have a 9.25 wrist. Wear 60mm watch and use NATO now. I like the fact there is not material underneath the watch. Do you make longer versions?
almost flicked away at the infomercial style in the beginning, but hung around and can see it's a decent idea - and good job on sourcing that leather you should probably link the site in the description box
I think it largely depends on the watch. I have no problem at all with the double pass on my watches, it barely shows. Also, the fact that it's a bit upward removes the problem of the crown scratching the hand skin : it gives more flexibility to the hand, especially when I am physically active. Finally, I appreciate the fact that I can change the strap without touching the springs.
@@bbuck1bbuck1 Yes. It's a debate on NATO and as the majority seems to not like NATO design, I thought I would share a different opinion and defend it. Don't take it as a criticism or an agression for the project, anyway, just reading at the comments, there is obviously a market so it's going to work. We all have a choice now. Just a gentleman talk, thank you.
I don’t have any issues with the strap running under the watch on NATO straps. What I don’t care for is the extra bulk created by the strap looping up and back through the keepers which this strap sadly preserves.
Congrats, Max! Love the concept and this is exactly what ive been looking for for my Marathon Navigator Stainless Date. Its such a thin military watch and single and double pass NATOs just unbalance it.
This could already be achieved by simply removing the lower keeper that normally would keep the watch head from falling off the strap when it's not on a wrist. Which of course in this case is purely aesthetic and has no function.
Max crunchy brother hey with that material what do you think about putting a deployment clasp on it kind of like the orias almost like a nylon NATO but more like a braided nylon leash you've seen the Oreos with a deployment clasp think about it I would purchase one from you also make the band uniform no taper and in a 20 mm for those of us who often switch bands between watches
Folks, check out the Zuludiver Octopod. It is clean, has no foldovers or hangers, and has the convenience and security of a milled bracelet clasp. Please pass on the ribbed straps because they are stiff and a PITA for exchanges. The standard and elastic straps are fantastic. Brilliant clasp concept.
Would love for someone to design a nato strap where the “bulk” resides on the underside of the wrist rather than on the side. Especially for a small wrist like mine where you have to tuck the end of the strap in that extra bulk above the 12 o’clock looks unsightly when you’re looking at the watch imo
Never had a problem with the supposed bulk/height of a NATO, and I wear a lot on various watches. As I type this I have a 42mm diver on a leather NATO/Zulu and doesn’t feel tall or “wobbly”
There's a way to mount a NATO strap with only "one" pass underneath without compromising the integrity of the strap. I will try one for "fashion/comfort only" and to support the channel. I also respect new ideas.
Sorry, but all you did is to defeat the purpose of a NATO or Zulu strap. Now if a spring bar breaks, the watch falls off your wrist. Recommend a Zulu strap for one layer below the watch OR the alternate method of attaching a standard NATO that again is only one layer below the watch which also has the added benefit of now moving the strap to the bottom of the wrist versus on the outside, which is just plain annoying.
Is there a version without the stitched in keeper? If there was I think it would be a cleaner look and would be much easier to switch out straps (and would fit on my FXD!), I would get one immediately!
This is what I was wondering. How necessary is that keeper? It would be smoother on the wrist without it. I wonder if it’s just there to replicate the look of a NATO with zero pass.
Great idea. The problem is you will need strong springbars. My brother who loves NATOs has had his break several times, I had to get extra thick ones for his. You should make long straps for wearing on top of coats and jackets in the winter. It is surprisingly useful here in Canada
Actually I thought of this already and congratulation for making this. Ialways feel that the 1.3mm or so thickness look awkward on my skinny wrist so I welcome a thicker strap or a thin double strap. I like this configuration especially for my thicker watches. While you're working on it, can you please make one with the elastic marine national material. Im sure this new design will be a hit and will be a popular option. So work double time bro before others catch up.
Find the Zero Pass strap at: www.anachronist.shop
That is awesome! Do you ship to Europe?
Makes me want to vomit. What a stupid idea.
Can I get my product? Purchased 12/8/23 and still do not have a tracking # or a resolution as of 1/3/24.
@@jaylee9356 not really worth purchasing in the first place. It's unfortunate to hear that it hasn't arrived. His organization sounds like it's as bad as the product
Placed an order at the beginning of December, the email with tracking number was received on the junk folder then automatically deleted. I contacted them several times no response. Still didn’t receive my order and they didn’t respond to provide me with the tracking number so I can follow up.
I guess I am failing to see why someone wouldn’t just buy a normal 2 piece strap that looks more finished since you removed the whole reason of using a NATO which is to have a fail safe if a spring bar breaks.
This only makes sense if you have the Tutor FXD.
@@bbuck1bbuck1even then... it doesn't make sense.
Although I agree with you, I think some people may just want the nato look without the added thickness.
@@bbuck1bbuck1His strap doesn't work with fixed lugs.
Was gonna say this. Looks like NATO but has none of the functionality. Good luck w/ your product - I’m sure there’s a market.
Sorry to be blunt, but that it pointless. The whole purpose of a NATO strap is to save the watch when one spring bar breaks. This strap doesn’t do that, so you may as well wear a two-piece fabric strap.
One of my favorite features of NATO straps is that you don't have to remove spring bars to install them. So easy to change to a new strap every morning. Would love to see a version which can pass right through, without having to remove that one spring bar
Without upsetting, its perfectly possibly to do a zero pass with a normal single pass nato
@@kbeightyseven1783I'd imagine you'd need a longer strap, right? I'm not sure how I'd do it with a standard single pass NATO.
@tomek1678 yes a long nato
Quick release spring bars would only add a few seconds to the process if you did it every day or so and got good at it
This is like trying to get into the drivers seat in a car, but from the trunk.
I had a spring bar snap off on a field excursion . My NATO saved my watch. NATOs aren’t about “ the look.” They are designed to save your watch in rugged outdoor activities. It was never designed for desk divers.
99% of people are not using it for safety stop coping
Spot on. Desk Divers . With money to burn. 😂😅
Bro said “what if I ripped off a CNS Paratrooper strap… and made it worse?” 😮
Also, patent pending means nothing from a legal standpoint until it’s awarded.
Very cool. For me though, I like NATO and MN straps because they remove the negative space between the spring bar and the case that you get with a leather band and some bracelets. This isn’t for me, but well done!
This sacrifices function for form, i guess it depends on which one is more important to you.
I literally had this idea after buying a Nick Mankey strap and couldn’t believe nobody had done it. Thank you for making this!
Cheers!
I love how easy it is to change nato straps for different looks, I love knowing that 1 missing spring bar won't drop my watch, but these aren't essential for everyday. I do congratulate you on the innovation shown here in such an established form factor of a wristwatch. I'm looking forward to giving one a go 👌
There's already 2-piece Nato strap out there
Hawkrigger "Grappleband Fixed Bar" is a very similar concept and eliminates the excess fold over for those that dislike the bulk.
Lol man, this is literally a copy of the Grappleband with just different hardware.
The point of this Zero Pass is keep the NATO appearance once installed, but without the buck under the clock.
This Grappleband, the CNS Paratrooper strap, the "RAF strap"... avoid the bulk, but don't have the same appearance of the NATO strap - after all people buy NATO strap due their look.
Not a fan of double pass natos. Single pass are amazing however. I think the beauty of a nato is being able to keep your watch safe in case of a spring bar failure.
Well you could always just sneak a piece of thread inside both parts the zero pass strap at the springbars.
Imagine having springbars fail
Laughs in pocket watch user
Are you guys on the spectrum? You're not in the military lmao
The Watch Steward has been making a strap basically like this for ages. It just doesn't have the loop keepers and instead has an MN clasp. But still, pretty much the same thing.
I was thinking this. I’m all for more cool options, but nothing has been “invented” here. A pre-existing idea has been adapted to apply to NATOs 🤨
We're thrilled to have had the opportunity to collaborate with you on this exciting new project! 🙌This design is bound to reshape people's perceptions of NATO straps, without a doubt!
@twostickstraps you guys are a class act through this entire process, thanks so much for helping to bring this from idea to reality!
Hahah but it isn’t a nato anymore
@@WatchCrunchOfficial brooo you're getting destroyed in the comments. Apparently the poor folk who paid months ago have not even received it!!! And your product is crap. It's a sad sad day in the watch world.
Lol. I've had my spring bars fail and the nato strap has saved my watch from just obliterating itself from my stupidity.
Very cool design Max and especially love the innovation and creativity! Looking forward to hopefully trying a zero pass on one of our watches soon! Hope all is well on your end and thank you for the great video!
All the best,
Ben
Thanks for the support Ben!
This literally serves no purpose... If you lose a spring bar, you can kiss your speedy goodbye...🤠
interesting design but curious why this is superior to a normal 2 piece strap?
because it's one piece ;)
Nice one Max, this is a great option for those watches on the thicker side who love the versatility of a NATO. Well done, I hope the sales go well. I'm certainly interested.
Great Ingenuity and creativity Max! Congratulations on getting your strap out into the market too!
Thanks, it's been a long time coming...
I’m going to point out the obvious: this design forgoes the primary advantage of a nato/Zulu strap - if a single spring bar goes, so does the whole watch. I use natos when out on the water.
did you watch the video? This was mentioned heavily
@@WatchCrunchOfficial honestly, I got about half way through before clicking away because IMHO it was all a little ridiculous. I did see that it was mentioned, but I’d already written the comment and still believe it stands. You can buy a regular watch strap made of nylon for a nato appearance if you don’t want the underpass. The whole thing smacks of solving a problem that doesn’t exist, or if you want to put it another way, solving a problem that’s already been solved but doing it in an alternative and inferior way. No matter how you slice it, I wouldn’t consider the new thing to be superior in any way to any of the alternative old things. And it eliminates the primary advantage of the old solution. No matter how I look at it, the new thing doesn’t have a purpose, IMO. And it specifically eliminates a purpose of the old thing.
But hey, the world is full of all kinds. If you can sell something to them, what do I care? I’m not buying it. 🤷
Fun idea! It looks like you took the single pass NATO strap and widened the inner loop to allow the hand to pass through. The tradeoff from a practicality standpoint is reasonable (just look at any standard watch strap and if a spring bar breaks the watch will fall), but I think the fact that you have to slide your hand through before tightening (as opposed to just slapping it on your wrist) makes this more of a difficult sell (Apple does this with their elastic bands, but now there is the added complexity of tightening it down). Could you have achieved a similar aesthetic result (and I guess conventional result if we're considering the weight distribution) with a conventional 2-piece fabric strap by just doubling the layers?
It has the downsides of both the nato and a normal strap! I'm not sure I see the point in this
We wanted to keep it to one piece and retain the nato aesthetic. There are more additions than just lengthening the strap if you look closer ;)
No offense, but a regular watch strap does the same thing
I know right?
Max, honestly this looks pretty intricate to put on every morning. Maybe needs some practice.
It eliminates the safety advantages of a NATO but is still bulky, only flipped the double layer UNDER your wrist. I would prefer an innovative flat strap under my wrist when working in the office.
Most of my NATOs wear good and fill the space under the lugs, so the watches sit very well (better than with single layer straps).
I think I recall a similar strap technique (with leather) at a 1940s vintage watch I got offered in Switzerland about 25 years ago. Interesting you had the same idea now.
Colors and designs look great and prices are ok too (my NATOS are between 12,- and 200€)
Wishing you a perfect start!
I just got my honey Dijon nylon in the mail and I LOVE it! I’m using it on my white dial Hamilton Khaki Field Expedition. It’s a perfect match. The mustard strap matches the faux lume on the hands. I had completely given up on NATO straps even though I love the look. Even a single pass feels weird on my wrist. I don’t care that the zero pass loses the feature of staying put if you break a spring bar. I don’t worry about that with my other 20 rubber, leather, and metal straps. In 50 years of wearing watches I’ve never had a spring bar fail. So why would I worry about it with this one? Max, you’ve created a total hit. Way to go!!!
Just received mine today. Have to say this is pretty amazing. I am impressed. Good job!
So fun to watch this idea unfold. The beginning is always the most exciting 🎉
Thanks for being a part of the process!
I would love a zero pass leather strap for the FXD. Would you consider doing removable hardware to make it fixed lug compatible for the future? Look at what Erika’s and Nick Manley designs do for fixed lug compatibility if that helps
We definitely prototyped it, will keep your comment in mind, thanks!
Yah, more options for the FXD would be fantastic
Thank you for this comment. I was on my way to purchase the grey one for my FXD but glad I didn’t blind fire the credit card trigger!
I've actually worn my NATO's with cheap spring bars so I had that reason. :D And sure enough, a bar did fail once. I didn't even notice.
The marine national is the perfect rugged watch strap. The watch sits low, it's super secure and it has a classic look
Congratulations! Nice going!!
I TRULY hope this new version of the NATO strap has great success! 🥳🎉
Thanks my friend!
Fantastic idea! Once these come out in 21mm, I’m all in
Noted 😉
"Never had one fail on me." Everybody knows what's a statement to regret later.
This is a great idea! Will work great on my thick cased chronograph
So basically you remove the intended functionality of the NATO and just focus on aesthetics. The antithesis of what a tool watch is all about but hey look, it’s thinner!!
Totally defeats the intended purpose of a NATO strap……to stop the head of the watch from being lost if a spring bar fails.
3years+,you say?? I took my strap to a tailor's,had it cut and sewn. Took like half an hour.
I may be a genius.
They look great Max - best ideas are always simple! Be good if David (at ST) could ship direct for your UK customers - is that a possibility?
Yes I will talk to him about this if the launch goes well
On the face of it, it's a, cool idea but when I think about it, it doesn't really make sense. We use NATO style straps in particularly rough environments and have to put up with the wierd loop and keeper at the side of the wrist as a, trade off for keeping the watch on your wrist if you lose a spring bar. There's no real point in having that awkward looking piece if you're not going to have the protection. It's better to buy a good standard canvas or nylon strap as it just looks better. Or, cut off the double pass bit or use an original single pass while still having the safety with a bit less bulk under the watch. A good quality single pass or a cut away NATO will not feel flimsy at all. What we have here is a strap that's not very esthetic but it doesn't provide the safety. It's basically an ugly looking strap with no real benefit with unnecessary bulk on your wrist for no good reason.
Soooooo you made a longer strap to just loop it differently making it less secure. This isn't that great of an idea
Wow. That looks really handy, good looking and confortable !! Congrats!
Thanks!
I just chop off the extra loop on a NATO strap and turn it into a pass through. I can never find the design I like on pass throughs.
Ok, but the purpose of a NATO is to ensure even if one lug fails the watch is not lost. Doesn’t this mean you lose your watch now if not side fails,
so when will you come out with a version that works on fixed bars? anything in the works?
Love what you’ve done here. Any plans to make a thinner version that will fit a pelagos fxd?
Nicely done, Max. This is definitely something to be proud of!
Appreciate that!
Great design. I like NATO look, but I can't stand the extra length that has to be tugged on the other end. My wrist is only 6.25 in, so can you guys make a short version of this for small wrist size?
These will work for 6-8" wrists
1. There are single pass natos
2. That way of using a nato defeats the purpose of a nato strap.
3. If you still want to use a nato with 0 pass, there are 2-piece "nato" straps and you don't need that 2-layer strap on each side of the watch.
Why would anybody go for this design beats me...
Love you too
Seeing how you respond to legit criticism with solid points tells us a lot about your maturity man
@@roepetoepa have a better day
I do like the fact that the watch strap isn’t resting on the case.
Have you started shipping the Zero Pass Straps yet? Placed an order on 12/8 and wanted to see if they'd arrive by Christmas.
Oh man, this is such a fantastic idea! Impatiently waiting for a version in black. 👍
Looks cumbersome to take off. I might break the spring bars as I take it off lol. It is a fresh idea though.
I love this. But the shipping to Australia is far too expensive. $66 AUD just for shipping
just changed it to a standard $35 for international
@@WatchCrunchOfficial do you understand the concept of exchange rates?
Congratulations! Does it come with different length. I don’t like the look of two fold at the end, it was my main issue to go with nato straps. For my BB 58 I ordered the original nato strap
Congrats on developing a new design.
Personally, as well as the strap thickness behind the caseback, I hate the visual bulk above 12 o'clock and the keeper below 6.
What are the advantages of this compared to a two piece nylon strap which will look sleeker yet also utilitarian?
Still happy you're doing something new!
I like the tuck, and wanted to stick with one piece design
bruh just get a 3 ring zulu strap. it’s less thick but you still get the robustness of a nato strap.
loveee the idea. Maybe have different lengths of the strap? I hate folding/tucking the extra length back in
I actually love that look 😀
Yes, yes, yes! Great job and idea! You finally convinced me over to natos!
Let's go!
Such a fresh idea and very cool! Order placed, can’t wait!
Nice, just filled your order 😀
This concept is very much like The Watch Steward elastic straps in a more traditional material.
This defeats the purpose of using a Nato. Nato straps are tool straps to avoid your watch from falling off your wrist if one of the spring bars is busted. Makes no sense.
It’s for aesthetic and balance, not for the purpose of a nato. If you are a purpose-driven enthusiast, you won’t want this strap.
🔥 WHAT SIZE LUG WIDTH WILL IT FIT? 🔥 .. Nevermind. 20mm and 22mm. I saw that on your site. I just bought two. Can’t wait. Thank you for solving a problem I can’t believe nobody solved until now. 👊🍻
Let's go Harry 😁!!
I use my double pass natos as a single pass, it's simple although I think your idea is a winner 👍
Thanks Jason!
Will this come out in the 18mm? Just ONE case of many, I imagine there are a lot of seagull 1963 owners that a) don't mind paying for accoutrement more expensive that the watch and b) could really use a zero pass on that thick case for 38mm.
Exactly, this is great on thicker watches. 18 coming soon
Nice product! However I have a 9.25 wrist. Wear 60mm watch and use NATO now. I like the fact there is not material underneath the watch. Do you make longer versions?
Congrats man ..Something innovative and practical …
Thanks brother 🙏
This is a simple brilliant idea! Might be just the thing that gets me into Natos again.
Hehe, I'm a fan again 😎
almost flicked away at the infomercial style in the beginning, but hung around and can see it's a decent idea - and good job on sourcing that leather
you should probably link the site in the description box
Good idea!
Very cool. Thanks for putting this up.
Would love to have a version of this where I didn't need to remove the 12 o'clock spring bar.
damn that looks so good it makes me want to get a speedy just to put it on a leather nato like yours
😉👍
Lol I came up with this when I first got into watches, but natos always looked cheap so i never wore them 😅 I didn't realize this was new!
Great minds think alike
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Haha clearly! Good luck with your strap store!
I think it largely depends on the watch. I have no problem at all with the double pass on my watches, it barely shows. Also, the fact that it's a bit upward removes the problem of the crown scratching the hand skin : it gives more flexibility to the hand, especially when I am physically active.
Finally, I appreciate the fact that I can change the strap without touching the springs.
Okay well if it’s not a problem for you then you won’t buy it. I mean.
@@bbuck1bbuck1 Yes. It's a debate on NATO and as the majority seems to not like NATO design, I thought I would share a different opinion and defend it.
Don't take it as a criticism or an agression for the project, anyway, just reading at the comments, there is obviously a market so it's going to work.
We all have a choice now.
Just a gentleman talk, thank you.
I don’t have any issues with the strap running under the watch on NATO straps. What I don’t care for is the extra bulk created by the strap looping up and back through the keepers which this strap sadly preserves.
Damn. Nick Mankey Designs Hook Strap.
I'll have to send Nick a message!
@@WatchCrunchOfficial 😂
Congrats, Max! Love the concept and this is exactly what ive been looking for for my Marathon Navigator Stainless Date. Its such a thin military watch and single and double pass NATOs just unbalance it.
You get it!!!
Congrats man !!!
Max, the next stage is one where there is no removal of either spring bar. This is possible and fairly easy I think. Good job on gen1 though!
This could already be achieved by simply removing the lower keeper that normally would keep the watch head from falling off the strap when it's not on a wrist.
Which of course in this case is purely aesthetic and has no function.
Just ordered my grey zero pass NATO. Would love to see a navy blue option down the road 😎
Max crunchy brother hey with that material what do you think about putting a deployment clasp on it kind of like the orias almost like a nylon NATO but more like a braided nylon leash you've seen the Oreos with a deployment clasp think about it I would purchase one from you also make the band uniform no taper and in a 20 mm for those of us who often switch bands between watches
Good idea, but I really wanted to retain that Nato aesthetic on this one!
Folks, check out the Zuludiver Octopod. It is clean, has no foldovers or hangers, and has the convenience and security of a milled bracelet clasp. Please pass on the ribbed straps because they are stiff and a PITA for exchanges. The standard and elastic straps are fantastic. Brilliant clasp concept.
The whole point of this is having those keepers there for the look.
@JohnnyPhate. Remember that competition is good. The best concept wins. It is what it is.
yeah but the octopod clasp is overly long, too long for many wrists and long than L2L of many watches.
Love this, happy to support you. Just bought two!
@@JimLecinski Clearly, you've never owned one or handled one in person. Your take is blatantly false.
Hey what model of IWC was that you tried the NATO on? It looked great.
A zero pass nato is kinda like a dive style watch though, isn't it? Not that there's anything necessarily wrong with either.
Got mine on the way for my tudor 925 ! Great new option , good price too !
Done! Ordered. I've got a chunky Seiko mod this should work great on.
Nice! Love my Seiko on the Zero Pass
Would love for someone to design a nato strap where the “bulk” resides on the underside of the wrist rather than on the side. Especially for a small wrist like mine where you have to tuck the end of the strap in that extra bulk above the 12 o’clock looks unsightly when you’re looking at the watch imo
Use a single pass NATO and wear the watch lower on the strap.
thewatchsteward has done the same with the marine nationale straps. Makes a world of difference in terms of comfort.
ohh ok cool, it's like a traditional nato mixed with a watch steward. looks great
Never had a problem with the supposed bulk/height of a NATO, and I wear a lot on various watches. As I type this I have a 42mm diver on a leather NATO/Zulu and doesn’t feel tall or “wobbly”
Thanks! Just ordered
There's a way to mount a NATO strap with only "one" pass underneath without compromising the integrity of the strap. I will try one for "fashion/comfort only" and to support the channel. I also respect new ideas.
Mazel tov on the new straps! Much success!
Cheers!
Neat! 👏 Kudos on bringing a fresh idea to life. It's definitely more challenging than it seems!
Thanks Nick! Love that we had similar solutions with different aesthetics. The community needs more innovation!
Sorry, but all you did is to defeat the purpose of a NATO or Zulu strap. Now if a spring bar breaks, the watch falls off your wrist.
Recommend a Zulu strap for one layer below the watch OR the alternate method of attaching a standard NATO that again is only one layer below the watch which also has the added benefit of now moving the strap to the bottom of the wrist versus on the outside, which is just plain annoying.
This is clearly addressed in the video
Wait so do we have to remove spring bar every single time when wearing the watch?? Can someone confirm please
Is there a version without the stitched in keeper? If there was I think it would be a cleaner look and would be much easier to switch out straps (and would fit on my FXD!), I would get one immediately!
This is what I was wondering. How necessary is that keeper? It would be smoother on the wrist without it. I wonder if it’s just there to replicate the look of a NATO with zero pass.
Now I think about it without that keeper it’s just a long single pass. Not patentable and doesn’t replicate the look of a NATO
Good point, but I would prefer it without the keeper.
It gets too floppy without the extra keeper, and I found I had to readjust the overlap throughout the day
@@WatchCrunchOfficial Cool. Well I’m glad it’s functional as well as looking the part. I wish you success with this product
Great idea. The problem is you will need strong springbars. My brother who loves NATOs has had his break several times, I had to get extra thick ones for his.
You should make long straps for wearing on top of coats and jackets in the winter. It is surprisingly useful here in Canada
Thanks, good info
Actually I thought of this already and congratulation for making this. Ialways feel that the 1.3mm or so thickness look awkward on my skinny wrist so I welcome a thicker strap or a thin double strap. I like this configuration especially for my thicker watches. While you're working on it, can you please make one with the elastic marine national material. Im sure this new design will be a hit and will be a popular option. So work double time bro before others catch up.