Ep181: Not In My Backyard: The McKinney LDS Temple & The New McKinney Mosque

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  • Опубліковано 8 вер 2024

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  • @akathecatlady
    @akathecatlady Місяць тому +40

    Rebecca and Landon: I just wanted to say that I greatly admire your tenacity in fighting the injustice of the church's actions, in general, of course, but especially with these temples. I can only imagine that these citizens feel this battle is almost insurmountable, but with you on their side, they have a fighting chance. Thank you for all your hard work, and you only need to ask, and you also have an army of supporters behind you!

    • @brettpinion4233
      @brettpinion4233 Місяць тому

      LDS PLEASE DON'T REJECT GOD OF BIBLE & FOLLOW THE FALSE EVOLVING GODS OF Joseph Smith?
      ISN'T YOUR ETERNITY WORTH EXAMINING THE TRUTH?
      "Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of J.S. and LDS members.
      Isaiah 44:6 says, "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is NO God." and goes on "Is there any God besides me?... I know not one". God is saying there is NOT an infinite amount of Gods, and there is none other like Him. LDS teaches that there is. Either the Bible or LDS is false.
      LDS paid scholar Dan McClellan in 2024: " The data pretty firmly points in the OPPOSITE direction of a historical BOM" youtube short video "Is the BOM historical?"
      There is NO archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, botanical or dna evidence to support the Book of Mormon. LDS anthropologist Dee Green: “The first myth we need to eliminate is that BOM archaeology exists” conceding 20 years of research “left us empty-handed” (Green 1969 p. 77)
      NO trace of Jewish DNA found in any Indian burial ground anywhere in the Americas from time period of BOM. Thomas W. Murphy, (Mormon scholar, DNA researcher): “the genetic evidence shows that American Indians are NOT jewish. The Book of Mormon is not true.” John Whitmer Historical Association Journal 2005
      NO truth: Book of Abraham published with 3 drawings from an old Egyptian papyrus. The book is a funerary papyrus showing scenes from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. In drawings Nos. 1 & 3, Smith misidentifies everything depicted. "LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of Abraham" Quote from LDS OFFICIAL WEB PAGE
      NO trace of “2 million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2), with iron, brass, breast-plates, shields, and armor. It is impossible for these millions of dead warriors in metal armor to leave no trace.
      NO trace of the "great" city Zarahemla- it is impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla described in BOM (Alma 5:2; D&C 125:3) to leave no trace.
      NO temple like Solomon's described in 2 Nephi 5:16 has ever been found yet biblical temple is easily seen in Jerusalem. This "temple" could not just disappear.
      NO Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings described by J.S. ever found anywhere as it is not a real language anywhere in the world.
      NO cities mentioned in the BOM have ever been located (none of 38) ANYWHERE. It would be impossible for them to disappear unless they never existed.
      NO evidence: "The whole land was covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous, as it were the sand of the sea." Yet NOT ONE ever located. (Mormon 1:7) IMPOSSIBLE for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) & MILLIONS of people to have vanished.
      The BOM speaks of sheep, swine, silk, wool clothing & elephants existing in the Americas when they did not. 1 Ne.13:7; Alma 4:6; Ether 9:17 and 10:24 These were brought to America centuries later by Europeans.
      NO wheat, no goats, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no steel swords, no cattle, no chariot parts, no brass (Mosiah 8:10) no evidence of the listed Kings in BOM, no Jewish relics or Jewish Temples from supposed Jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly used, no middle eastern seeds growing, "which were brought from the land of Jerusalem ... and grew exceedingly" 1 Nephi 18:24
      CAN WE IGNORE THE LACK OF EVIDENCE FOR THE THE BOOK OF MORMON AND JUST TRUST OUR FEELINGS AS TO IT'S TRUTH EVEN THOUGH IT CONFLICTS WITH THE BIBLE AND THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE? NO!
      D&C Section 9:8-9 - tell us that if something is true it will make our "bosom burn" and we will FEEL that it is right. Maroni 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you"

      The BIBLE WARNS us against this SUBJECTIVE type of truth test. Why? Because we have a sinful nature that can be deceived. Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusts in his own (bosom) heart is a FOOL."
      The Scriptures, however, are infallible and can never be wrong (John 17:17; Psalm 119:128; 33:4; 19:8; Romans 3:4).
      This is why the Bible frequently urges us to study and meditate on God's word. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "STUDY ... rightly dividing the word of TRUTH." Acts 17:11 "EXAMINE THE SCRIPTURES to see if what said is TRUE". 1John 4:1 says: "BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT, ... because MANY FALSE PROPHETS (J.S.) have gone out into the world."

      LDS CLAIMS the bible was corrupted to justify Joseph Smith's changing of the biblical, eternal God into an evolving, created god, who is not all powerful and is one of an endless number of gods . This is a PROVABLY FALSE claim.

      The Claim: In the BOM, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was CORRUPTED and "plain and precious parts" were removed after the 12 apostles and after the formation of the “great and ABOMINABLE church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this is the Catholic Church formed in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the DEVIL (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine the Bible & BOM.
      BIBLE: The Dead Sea Scrolls have been dated to as early as 350 BC. One is the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known copy of the Book of Isaiah dated to 180 BC.
      Do ANY ancient scrolls show Smith's "uncorrupted" version of scripture? NO! Yet they would if the scripture was later corrupted after the 12 apostles died as Smith and Nephi said.
      Also, if they had been corrupted, Jesus would have corrected scripture instead of affirming it! Jesus sd:“ I told you EVERYTHING written about me in the Law of Moses, the Books of the Prophets, and in the Psalms had to happen.” (Luke 24:44-46)
      Scripture is the same today as it was 2,100+ years ago with only minor spelling and punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. These scrolls pre-dated Catholics, and are Jewish scrolls and the BOM says the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity". 1Nephi 13:25
      LDS Apologist Wayne Ham admitted the Isaiah scroll does not support the the BOM. Apologist Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of BYU, said the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the BOM. BYU Professor Joseph F. McConkie: "Rather than Joseph Smith as Found in Ancient Manuscripts, it ought be Joseph Smith as Lost in Ancient Manuscripts.” (Religious Studies Center, 1984)
      IS THE GOD OF THE BOOK OF MORMON THE SAME ONE AS IN THE BIBLE? NO! In the LDS Church’s 147th Conf., Gen Authority Bernard P. Brockbank said: the Christ followed by Mormons is NOT THE CHRIST followed by traditional Christianity. (Ensign, May 1977 p. 26)
      Like Joseph Smith, the goal of Satan was to be like God and have worshipers. "I will exalt my throne above the stars of God ... I will be like the Most High”’ (Isaiah 14:12-14)
      The new testament has not been corrupted either. See the book of John. Smith changed it to make Jesus a created being. Research a 1900 year old papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri of the book of John. (written 150 AD, around the Apostle John's time)
      John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was the WORD and the WORD was WITH God and the WORD WAS God." ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ (look up this ancient Greek yourself on google)
      John 1:1 Joseph Smith mistranslation: "In the beginning was the GOSPEL preached through the Son. And the GOSPEL was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God." Smith's Jesus is no longer God in the flesh but the biblical Jesus is: "God was manifest in the flesh" 1Tim. 3:16 KJV. In order to try to make things work for LDS, J.S. added extra verses and verbiage into John 1 that were never there in any ancient texts to try to separate the idea of a trinity into 3 Gods.
      There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Some go back to 350 AD and NONE support Joseph Smith's claims that the bible of today has been corrupted.
      Papyrus fragments exist of the New Testament dated to 175 AD and show that the new testament has NOT been "corrupted". (New Testament Docs: Are They Reliable? Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1967 pp. 15-17)
      The manuscript and archeological evidence for the BIBLE is the GREATEST in antiquity. I pray you know the true Jesus and not Joseph Smith's exalted man from another planet who is not eternal, not all powerful, not perfect but evolving, and was polygamous.
      God is much greater than the humanoid of Mormonism and NOT just ONE OF AN ENDLESS NUMBER OF EVOLVING GODS.
      Jesus said ALL scripture will NOT fade away but "many wolves in sheep's clothing" will come trying to add to the word. Mathew 7:15 Joseph Smith changed Jesus, the Father and taught you can become a GOD.
      It hurts my heart to see Mormons fall for the lie that we can become God when there is only one eternal God found in the bible.
      "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of Gods are those that enter into polygamy." (Brigham Young) Journal of Discourses 11 p.269
      Apostle Orson Pratt, in The Seer, page 172, “the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist…The son followed the example of his Father"
      God gave us critical thinking & logical reasoning for a reason, he tells us to EXAMINE and TEST what we are being taught for TRUTH. The bible withstands the truth test. Joseph Smith's version fails the truth test. It's your eternity, study it for yourself. God bless.

    • @CatskillsGrrl
      @CatskillsGrrl Місяць тому

      Ditto!

  • @daisymae4587
    @daisymae4587 Місяць тому +35

    50:50 to the individual concerned that his children would be indoctrinated by walking past the mosque, I urge him to walk past a library so that he may gain some perspective, knowledge, and intelligence.

    • @cc-hk5ih
      @cc-hk5ih 25 днів тому

      Beautifuly said and maybe an overload of truth and justice would be revealed!!

  • @CandlewickLibrary
    @CandlewickLibrary Місяць тому +7

    Thank you for your coverage on these temples over this past year. This is so crazy. You guys are doing great work.

  • @danblackwelder5261
    @danblackwelder5261 Місяць тому +7

    the LDS should build their Temple in Allen Tx next to the Hindu Temple on Watters Rd . This is only about 1 and 1/2 miles away. The Hindu Temple is also a large two story building and has about 6 Large towers.

  • @robertragan-fq6ij
    @robertragan-fq6ij Місяць тому +7

    You guys continually kick butt. Well done and salute. 💛🐭🪕

  • @isabel_hendrix
    @isabel_hendrix Місяць тому +11

    Appreciate y’all!!

  • @mistichristensen7088
    @mistichristensen7088 Місяць тому +4

    YES!!!!!$. Hit all the nerves!

  • @crystaldavis3841
    @crystaldavis3841 Місяць тому +7

    ❤ great episode!

  • @deborahharding1248
    @deborahharding1248 Місяць тому +10

    Don’t forget to like! 👍

  • @mysticmagichippychild6239
    @mysticmagichippychild6239 Місяць тому +4

    Isn’t the Church supposed to be obedient to their government.

  • @CatskillsGrrl
    @CatskillsGrrl Місяць тому +4

    If I hadn’t already resigned I would over this BS. I wouldn’t have anything to do with an organization this deceptive and manipulative.

  • @mysticmagichippychild6239
    @mysticmagichippychild6239 Місяць тому +3

    Perhaps the McKinney town council could use the Church’s own articles of faith 12 and 13 as a legal defence.

  • @andreadiamond7115
    @andreadiamond7115 Місяць тому +5

    Commenting to help.

  • @debatosis
    @debatosis Місяць тому +4

    ??Where’s the world wide petition, for those who want to sign, that are against this Mormon temple and the churches despicable behavior??

  • @CatskillsGrrl
    @CatskillsGrrl Місяць тому +1

    You’ve shot to the top of my MUST WATCH list. 😘

  • @Songsofourown23
    @Songsofourown23 Місяць тому +2

    ❤❤❤Thank you for all you both do.

  • @sh1eldmaid3n
    @sh1eldmaid3n Місяць тому +2

    That letter from the McKinney major - - this is reprehensible and makes demonstrably false claims. Will there be any consequences for any of these clowns??

  • @chubbuck35
    @chubbuck35 Місяць тому

    I wonder how the Rexburg residents would react to a HUGE Mosque that is twice as high as their Rexburg temple, being built in their town…. 🤔

  • @miriam-moore
    @miriam-moore Місяць тому +1

    The center elder has a magical disappearing necktie 😄😄

  • @cdjonesus
    @cdjonesus Місяць тому +2

    It's funny how hypocritical the members and leaders of the church are. 12th Article of Faith "We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.", unless it blocks us from becoming a state, (at which time they weren't a multi-billion corporation, or we can't build a temple with any design we want.) Isn't the zoning code in Fairview "the Law"??? Well, if you're' a multi billion dollar corporation, 12 article of faith is out the window, and were going to sue your A$$ until we get our way....

  • @peteralieber
    @peteralieber Місяць тому +1

    @landon Speaking of the image on the right (generated large Mosque with turrets), in all honesty, would you really immediately say this is not ok? I think ASKING to build it is totally ok, and those resident may have a different reaction. The problem comes when legal action is thrown in from the beginning (which is a big reason I think the Fairview temple is so triggering)

  • @harleyenjoytheride1324
    @harleyenjoytheride1324 Місяць тому +2

    The dictatorial nature of the Mormon churches hierarchy portrays one important aspect. The construction of all of these temples is simply a ploy to convince people that Mormonism is expanding which is definitely not the case. The religion is made-man and edifies mankind rather than the God of this Universe as portrayed in the Holy Bible.
    I enjoy listening to the podcast. Keep up the excellent work on exposing the so-called church.

  • @chubbuck35
    @chubbuck35 Місяць тому

    The chances that a Mosque that size just went through this exact process is so poetic. It’s almost like God is making a point.

  • @isabel_hendrix
    @isabel_hendrix Місяць тому +4

    5:23 but seriously you DO have historical significance!!!

  • @benjamingardea4511
    @benjamingardea4511 Місяць тому +1

    That letter from the mayor was ridiculous. A whole bunch of claims without specific examples to demonstrate them. The members are largely great people. The church itself does little to nothing to build community. It creates division.

  • @vicon8102
    @vicon8102 Місяць тому +1

    Rebecca and Landon, Thank you for all your hard work and great episodes. I keep hearing you state "The Church " The Mormon church is NOT "The Church." I always cringe when members of this cult refer to themselves as "The Church." I'm wondering if you two really believe this? If not, can you please refrain from referring to The LDS as "The Church. " I love your UA-cam channel and thanks for all you do.

  • @dalesnow1761
    @dalesnow1761 Місяць тому +2

    Because of the “direct conduit” that the church leaders have with the almighty they might not always be right but they are never wrong. Why don’t they take a leaf out of Bednars book and call it just a building. 🤷‍♂️

  • @Troy-gr6bq
    @Troy-gr6bq Місяць тому

    Which AI tool do you use? Your illustrations are always so amazing!

  • @user-ri7xo7uv1q
    @user-ri7xo7uv1q Місяць тому +8

    The prophet with the most new temples when he dies wins.

  • @nathanderr6317
    @nathanderr6317 Місяць тому

    All Lds temple are built Residential Zones Salt Lake city Was originally Built in residential Setting But Catholics Also Built There Cathedral's in Residential Zones Like Cardston Alberta Temple Was Built in the residential neighborhood's did The British Canadians Said Anything no Allow the temple to be built Same With Laie Hawaii Temple and Plus all the Lds temple Controversies Happened in The USA I Do like president Hinkley Temple's But The Problem is That it Makes The Temple's Look Exactly The same And When President Nelson He Try To make The Temple's Look unique And Heber valley Sister temple Smithfield Utah And it Looks like in It's Late 170ft to Early 180ft tall And plus It Doesn't Stick out Like sore Thumb Same Thing With Heber valley temple Plus American City's Are Having a Problem Every Single City Is Starting to look The Same Heber valley Is High Density Building's And A Smith's That is Twice the size of Heber valley temple And No one Says anything about it And You A agree or disagree with me

  • @iamjustonemom1950
    @iamjustonemom1950 Місяць тому

    Let's do dinner. Need a place to stay?

  • @user-ri7xo7uv1q
    @user-ri7xo7uv1q Місяць тому +1

    Didn't I hear a church of Satan temple was being planned for Salt Lake City? lol

  • @brentchilders369
    @brentchilders369 29 днів тому

    This is so shameful of the church. How can we best support Fairview?