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I’m gonna put this in a quote that Jermey Clarkson said. “This is brilliant! But I like this. Let me put it in this way Hammond. You can buy better dogs than my west highland terrier but I like west highland terrier. Yes it bites the postman and it’s lays dog eggs all over the kitchen and it steals food BUT ITS BRILLIANT” I think that’s how April feels about the Lincoln town car.
Yes she needs both ...Benz very nice and solid.... timing chains nightmare like a Ford phaser problem ...4.6 very good long running.. whorehouse red yikes...Benz very old 107 tech...panther I believe it's called much more modern...I have 107 380 to be exact sister took my tc...
I am with April, I love those Lincolns. You have to expect problems with used cars April. Don't let Tyler put down your car April, Tyler spends a fortune on his car repairs.
Maybe 80's Mercedes were more reliable than April's Lincoln, but in the last 20 years, Mercedes and BMW have been crap in terms of reliability and cost of maintenance. The transmission should be cheap to replace or rebuild. You built Hoovie's Garage upon this fact.
Well considering the Lincoln is a Ford underneath even replacing a transmission would be half the cost of a Mercedes. I'm guessing the Lincoln is basically a crown Vic underneath which have been proven to be very reliable. Even if the Mercedes had fewer problems the cost of repairs would outweigh the difference in owning one.
Because both Mercedes and BMW stop the engineers from building cars and allowed the accountant's to do that instead and to this day both companies are paying for it 🤦♂️
My grandmother had a white on white 90's Town Car. I remember it had a car phone and the mic was in the visor. At a stop light she'd be talking to her visor and people thought she was crazy. A time way before cell phones were common. She loved that car. Whoever got it after she passed got a car with maybe 30,000 miles and driven by a 70 + year old lady in tip top condition.
Congrats on hitting 60K subscribers. These special Saturday videos have been fantastic since April first got her Lincoln, hope we get to see more videos in this format. Keep up the good work!
April! Don’t give up on your Lincoln! It suits you perfectly! Timeless classic. The second generation is my favorite of the Town Cars. Yours is even color themed for Miss Rose. 🌹 I get more folks approach and appreciate the Lincoln than any other car I’ve owned.
Great videos and, April, way to hold strong on the Lincoln!! I'm a 37 (not 95) yr old life-long LTC fan and just bought my second one, a MINT 1994 white/deep navy blue w/28k miles that has never seen rain or snow and was kept in a windowless garage. I've owned a 95 LTC, BMW 5 and 7, an Infiniti, an Audi S4, a Lexus LS430, a Mercedes GLS... and now I've come full-circle... NONE of the imports have the character of a 88-97 LTC. Swap that transmission and enjoy the car!
I’d have the 126 over most cars, and especially the Lincoln. ..but I do like that she loves that car, and isn’t willing to let it go because a clearly better one comes along. We’ve all had that with something, or someone, and I tip my hat at her for that. ..my dream? The 126 coupe. Amazing Looking, even now.
Technically that title goes to the last one made, the Roadmaster, but I'd give this a close 2nd place. I hear that GM lost several thousand dollars on every one they sold.
@@Vaino_Hotti The production run isn't the important part, but when the last car was introduced. The Roadmaster was markedly more "modern" than the old Panther platform. I've owned both and the Buick was simply a better car with better interior and features as well.. Ford, unfortunately barely made any changes to the entire line for the 20 year run as there was heavy pressure from livery and police, over 95% of their customers, to keep things the same. It effectively was the best tech in 1992 but by the early 2000s, it was... dated. Without a doubt the best overall, though, if we add in European cars, was the Mercedes S class. (late 90s). Big, built like a tank, and smooth as glass. The double-pane windows and extra insulation made it nearly silent inside. Driving one instantly feels superior in almost every way. The U.S. stuff of the 90s/early 2000s simply did not compete.
@@plektosgaming A 2003+ Town Car is a very different thing than the older ones. Rack and pinion steering, coilover suspension, overhead cam V8 with individual coils, drive by wire, traction control. Xenon headlights, parking sensors, satellite navigation. The roadmaster was stuck with a pushrod engine with distributor ignition, and you call the Town Car dated? Youre just full of shit. Btw I own a 95 caprice, so I've got something to compare to.
I had a 1994 Lincoln town car signature series. Absolutely loved it. I don’t care that it was an old man’s car it was so comfortable. I just enjoyed being in it. It was so reliable and not even that bad on gas. It’s probably one of the last quality vehicles Ford made
A common failure with the AOD was the plastic grommet that attached the cable to the throttle. I upgraded mine to a brass grommet from a later year (I think it was from an Explorer).
I drove Lincoln Town cars (and other marques) for a living beginning in the 90s. Cadillacs may have had more seating position adjustments but were painful, almost crippling, after just a few hours. Town Cars were infinitely more comfortable for 12-15 hours days behind the wheel. Surely the better luxury ride and seating are a couple reasons for Town Cars becoming synonymous with black car service. Admittedly 2000 era S-Class MB and Cadillac Escalade seats with massagers, heat, and internal A/C ventilation are better. But Town Cars were NOT uncomfortable like everything GM of the era
I’m a huge fan of Hoovie and April, but after seeing how much April likes the Grand National and now town car, I’m hooked. Since I was a kid I loved those 90’s Lincoln’s; and it’s nice to see someone my age who appreciates them as well. And don’t worry about the transmission - just replace it and keep going: I have a 2003 Marauder with 320k miles on an original transmission and 2010 Town Car with 210k miles…. These things are workhorses that are built to last and easy and cheap to fix when something does go wrong. Btw: you two make the best content on YT : please keep it coming!
W126 Mercedes Benz platform was and I think still the best of the best in automotive engineering, I have my 1986 420 SEL with only 48k original miles and the car is incredible reliable, comfortable and incredible beautiful.
It is possible to love both the Town Car and the Mercedes, especially since you can get each of these at very reasonable prices now. I’ve grown to love the old American land yachts. I once had a 1996 Olds Ninety-Eight and when it was right it was beautiful; I had to junk it when the Midwestern salt finally rusted through the brake lines and it just was no longer financially sensible to repair. As far as April’s town car, it is beautiful and in amazing condition, and you do still see them all over the Midwest. Yes, it was the official staff car of AARP, but it was also THE limo of the 1990s, the livery service special taking celebs & powerbrokers to and from the airport. And since it’s basically 80% a Crown Vic it’s tough as nails, you can rack up the miles by the hundreds of thousands, and many of the parts are still very cheap and easy to find. On the other hand the 500SEL was the official executive car of celebs and stock brokers in the 1980s. If you drove that you were somebody and didn’t mind the world knowing. It is so classy that you could roll up to any country club in America and still look like a Baller to this day. So, was Hoovie trying to talk her OUT of the Town Car…or himself INTO another Merc W126?
My dad had that same Lincoln Town car. The seats are so plush and with the full front plush velvet couch, many of life's pleasures were made there. I, myself had a 1980 Mercedes 300d. I loved it. Since she makes you so happy, you must get both toys.
The Benz seats are hard as a rock, the leather will burn your skin, it rides like a buckboard, and the steering wheel is the size of a manhole cover because the "power steering" is tuned for the autobahn. Lincolns and Cadillacs from that era are in demand because they have the best balance of technology and comfort
Indeed, my aunt had one she bought it New, I don't recall the year maybe an 81, it was a diesel and had that huge steering wheel, a strong car it's true but as far as comfortable forget about it.
Loving the energy! I live in Scottsdale and attended Barrett Jackson this year, had an opportunity to interact briefly with Hoovie & April, energy is real, both are genuine individuals. Keep up the amazing content.
Some of my all time favorite cars are the 95-97 town cars. Logically yes the Mercedes is probably a better car in every way, but I'm totally with April that the Town Car is the one I want haha
Great Video Guys, I have an Idea Tyler, You being the great Fiancee that you are, you should buy the mercedes and give it to April to use till her Lincoln is fixed. The keep it as a spare ride for the next breakdown.
I drove a 94 Lincoln Town Car when I was in my early 20's and it was amazing. It had leather, auto climate and many other features I cannot remember. Oh it was white and had a beige cloth top over the top rear part of the car. The air suspension was key and the v8 had decent power. Got her over 100 many times. With fat white wall tires the car really was a beautiful classic the road so smooth and was so big I could drive all my friends around in. Great times, great car.
April has good taste in Classics. This Good Morning UA-cam should be on 3 times per week not 5 times. Yes Autotempest found my 1989 Ford Probe here in Canada. Tyler stay in Kansas don't let love blind you.
I've always loved this particular Mercedes and many run forever. The venerable Crown Victoria is also a mileage champion when given the chance. It seems what we have here is a deep pocketed Hovvie who appreciates the Mercedes bloodline and can pay for the upkeep. Brake job maintenance is $3000 ish ? while the bread and butter Vic is what more like $1,000 ? If you challenge these numbers fine but document your objections to the principle - Mercedes cost buckets to maintain compared to the Vic.
My closest friend had a 300 SEL and I absolutely loved that car. He was kind enough and lent it to me, or we swapped cars when he needed my strong 4x4 to do something, and I got to cruise the merc. Feeling like a king on the road in that quite luxury car, but even the 300 had enough power to give that train feeling when you floored it. A strong smooth feeling of movement in a car that felt really heavy. Swalloving imperfections in the road and just floated along, it was a dream to drive long distances. Had to fuel it up a few times, and it was hungry, but who cares with that dream of a car. I absolutely love those large SEL's.
Nicest Mercedes car designed and executed... The ugly US market lights that Mercedes had to put were horrendous. The Car was designed to cruise at 220+ KPH all day with the euro headlights and bumpers.... Lets see the Lincoln come close to being stable at 120 KPH.....
@@charlestimmis273 We live in Norway and got the original version, without the ugly American modifications. Was that for safety reasons, and what was supposedly wrong with the original headlights? I had a Nissan Patrol 4x4 and the rules in Europe at that time, was that the rear lights was mounted too high, so the European version had to get some rear lights inside the bumper, to be up to standard. Totall bullshit if you ask me.
@@gudfarfar A long, long time ago -- before WWII -- American automakers were required by regulation to use sealed beams. This was, in its time, a step forward for safety, , because of reliability. By the 80's the European non-sealed lights were safe, reliable, and better, and we were still stuck with the ancient rule mandating seal beam units only. By the mid 80's, the rule was finally dropped. Now the big difference is aiming pattern.
I'm glad you are happy Hoovie. You are absolutely right about that Mercedes. That is one of the best all-around cars ever made. And clearly there is a good reason so few of those Lincolns have survived.
If you think she drives these heaps around for anything other than the UA-cam video your nuts lol
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The AOD trans works fine. If the throttle shift cable fails, from the plastic clip, or is misadjusted, you will cause damage. My 1988 Ford van, with 220K miles, and a never serviced AOD, works great. Also my 172K mile AOD equipped Thunderbird SC, shifts fine. How about Chrysler, and GM transmission failures?
SC 🤔... I have 3 of them a 91 is an ATX. I have pulled the TV cable through or to tighten it up just a little bit too cause the shift points to raise up in the RPM a little without issue. Whereabouts are you? Those SC are hard to find and rare to see on the road.
As a kid,I grew up with town cars, sedan devilles,and new yorkers. My mother's last town car was a 93,and my dad's last caddy was an 01. They were decent cars for the time,but I have an R129 sl600 and an sl500. The feel of those old Benz cars is something you need to experience, is it the best at everything? No,but they are so good,I have never driven anything like the sl600,and I have driven and owned almost as much as Tyler!
Go ALL in, and get April, the 560 SEL, in color 684, a beautiful beige, with a touch of red/Rosé. The Ultimate 80's cruiser, for a timeless supermodel 🙏
My dad had a 90s 560 sel and several Lincoln’s He loved them all but that 560 was probably the best driving car I have ever drove I love that car! Just solid
I am with April. I had a 1996 Lincoln Town Car for 5 years. I loved it. I love Mercedes as well, but repairs are twice as expensive as they are on the Lincoln.
I'm with April. My dad always had Mercs, the last one was a '91 420 SE and every time it was serviced it was thousands worth of fixing this and that. Meanwhile I drove a '66 Cadillac, and wouldn't even consider swapping it for a Merc. Granted, by the 80s-90's the American stuff was of lower quality, but still cheaper to buy and maintain and if you like the comfort and "numbness" as I do, well it's not such a clear cut choice.
I learned several years ago that if I waited for a well maintained luxury car to come into my budget and then installed a modern sound system with bluetooth and XM options I could have the best of both worlds. Affordable, dependable, and a pleasure to drive. Why buy new when most of what changes isn technology for the users pleasure?
I think April might enjoy exploring some of the late 60’s/early 70’s Thunderbirds, Mercury & perhaps the Lincoln Mark 3 of that era. The Ford quality was at its peak at that point 😊
_As much as we love American land yachts, I'm with Hoovie on this one. (My bff still has his 1996 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL AMG, and loves that car). Plus he owns a few Beemers from the brand-new Z4 to a mid-teens 750Li M Sport. At the end of the day, German cars are always better!_
My dad had a Lincoln Town car for a while in Scotland, was an absolutely cracking big car, so comfortable and smooth and just a little buzz when moving, it was so quiet! Unfortunately idiots in the street wouldn't leave it alone, so he had to get rid of it.
Oh, by the way, I put about 300,000 miles on an Escort GT. All synthetic oil, changed at 24,000 miles. Any opinion of 3,000 miles oil changes are not up on all synthetic like Mobil 1 !
13:31 Top tip - basically all of the creaking on my car came from where the door bottoms were rubbing against the rubbery door sills. After losing my mind and taking apart the entire car looking for the creaks, I eventually fixed it by taping satin cloth underneath the door bottoms. It was a different vehicle entirely after that 👍
My favourite European car is the Citroen CX. It’s extremely comfortable and comes with the amazing powered hydraulic suspension, steering and brakes. Sadly, they did rust but so did everything back then.
I'm not a transmission guy but I've taken apart several AOD's that were common in my area (Aerostars). What I found was a metal "star", about 3/16" thick that connected two sections of the internal drivetrain. The star had it's ears rounded off. It appeared to me that thrust washers at both ends of said drivetrain would wear out, allowing the two gearsets to walk apart. Once the endplay reached about half the thickness of the star, the star would strip out of the companion slot. We'd keep the shifter out of AOD and drove around in 3rd gear until it got fixed.
While driving my 1986 42SEL the deer would run away as if I had deer a whistle attached. Which tells me way the W126 was designed incorporating a deer whistle along with the rest of the way a car should function. I now have a 1997 S500 as my daily driver and have never been happier.
Years ago, my grandparents early 90's Town Car was passed down to me. I got it to 200K miles, and it was a great comfy car. As for the original transmission, it went out in the 90's when the family was travelling on summer vacation, and my grandparents got it replaced, so it does seem like transmissions were an issue with these models.
I owned several. Every single part is available new for this car from doors to dash reputable parts catalogs and you could always repair it and drive it for life.
Lovely ride! Interesting compared to the 90s Oz Fairlane/LTD-similar wheels, front end. Excellent review-we need more ladies doing car stuff-especially genuine ones with knowledge.
That Lincoln is pretty neat for being one of the earliest Ford "modular" V8s ever produced. The predecessor to the Coyote everyone loves today, really. In some ways, not all that different from the '80s to early '90s W126 V8s. Chan driven SOHC, but the Ford has a more modern fuel injection system. Where the Mercedes is using a mechanical Bosch K-Jetronic, the Lincoln is using EFI port injection like a real modern car. Should make more power than the old Benz too, but I suspect the Lincoln weighs more than the old S class. BUT, I do agree that the Mercedes has a very different feel to it. There is a sense of great attention to detail in the engineering and assembly of those old Benzes. Hard to describe. It's not like modern luxury that's got insane electrical features out the wazoo, it's just a car that felt much higher quality than the vast majority of other cars on the road during its day. Sure, it had some more sophisticated features than many cars of its time as well, but nothing really crazy compared to what's out there now.
The later years of that W126, with a 5.5 liter engine and better compression ratio, were a lot of fun. While the Ford 4.6L 2v V-8's are nice and smooth, I don't think they'd have the same grunt.
Entertaining video - thanks! And all points are true. But digging down, is it a fair comparison? $20k price difference in ‘86 is the same as a $57k difference today. It’s like comparing today a $40k new car against a $100k car. Also, as you noted, repair and maintenance cost are at a different level on the German cars. Having stated that, The German cars of 70’s and 80’s were wonderful. Refined well built tanks! Not true anymore; that 40-year old Lincoln is more solid and reliable than most 7+ year-old German cars these days. Disclosure: My car’s German.
This comparison is tough. I’ve owned a 95 300SEL and a 97 Town Car and both cars had their ups and downs. The town car was definitely A LOT more comfortable on the highway. But the 300 SEL felt more on the higher side. Plus the style was superb.
I've watched your channel for about three years now, and I love it. Thank you. I had a gray market 1984 500SEL bought in Germany w/all records for almost seven years. It had a custom-dyed jade green velour interior, /w the European plastic wheel covers and the engine w/the wilder cam & high compression ratio. Unique. The world's first car to use side impact door beams, etc. All best.
A million years ago I bought a 1991 Lincoln town car. One owner black paint. It was absolutely beautiful. My uncle used to laugh and said people kept stopping me asking were the funeral was. 😂. I'd love to have another one but the problem is when I see one they are worn out and trashed. There is nothing more beautiful than seeing one of these 1990,s era Lincoln town cars we'll kept going down the road but there's nothing uglier than seeing a trashy one going down the road
Bought a 1997 Town Car new. 380k miles later I still loved it. Yeah, I put trans in it. So what. Also owned a 1978 Mercedes 230. Nice drive but WAY more expensive to maintain than the Town Car. Always on the lookout for a low mileage primo 1995/1997 Town Car. SHE'S HOT!!!
Everything you have said that broke- if you ever owned a Lincoln (or Panther Ford product for that matter) you have fixed these issues. My dad’s air always worked. Windows on the 1990 did surprisingly well… but the 1984 none of them worked when he got it. LOL. Trans? AOD was ok…but not rock solid. AODE and 4R70W again, ok. The build quality on the 70’s Lincolns was a little better IMO, the ‘80’s saw a hit but they rebounded a little in the 90’s. Compare a 84 Lincoln with that 84 Mercedes and you’ll really have a very fair comparison.
I'll take the Lincoln any day! There is a reason why the Ford's Panther line vehicles were used as taxis, limos, and police cars. Many of them are running well as daily drivers in excess of 300K miles. Like most domestic vehicles, I'm sure the Lincoln varies by generation.
Sorry Tyler have to go with April's Lincoln!! One reason is if you have an issue you can take it anywhere for repair plus parts are so much cheaper. April has a better taste!
April, I'm so happy (and jealous) that you two have found each other. I can see Tyler's spirit again, and it's so cute that you bring that out. Couldn't leave the comments at 666 either.
I too would pick the Lincoln over the Benz. Parts are still available and just about any shop can work on them. Can you say that about the Benz Hoovie?
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I would like to see how the Merc & Lincoln would stack up against the almighty Jaguar XJ40.
The Lincoln is a great throwback. Ford was never known for reliable transmissions. Thankfully they are cheap to rebuild and make more reliable.
My god are u frigging kidding me brother, that Lincoln is an absolute heap,y?😬😬💀🤷👁👎👎🙈🙈🙈👎💀💀
What if swap with modern ZF ?😉
Ford has a few good transmissions, but you're right for the most part, haha
@@craigmorgan4676so you don’t have any class, that’s ok man. That Lincoln has enough class to make up for your shortcomings!
Hello Randy nice to see you there 🙂
I’m glad hoovie found April she seems like such good positive energy to be around
We’ll see - huh friend …
She acts like a kid he's in it for the booty she's in it for the money they deserve each other
I love women like this too. They are great 👌👌👌
I’m gonna put this in a quote that Jermey Clarkson said. “This is brilliant! But I like this. Let me put it in this way Hammond. You can buy better dogs than my west highland terrier but I like west highland terrier. Yes it bites the postman and it’s lays dog eggs all over the kitchen and it steals food BUT ITS BRILLIANT” I think that’s how April feels about the Lincoln town car.
Both Jeremy and James are awesome, but I never ever repeat either of the "Royal Lesbian's" quirky quotes. 😵💫😆
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Perfect analogy!😂
@@scottimusgarrett15 thank you man! I knew that it was just perfect
@@MAGGOT_VOMIT What are royal lesbians?
Sounds like she needs both Hoovie. One to drive while the other is in the shop.
That's a great idea!
Yes she needs both ...Benz very nice and solid.... timing chains nightmare like a Ford phaser problem ...4.6 very good long running.. whorehouse red yikes...Benz very old 107 tech...panther I believe it's called much more modern...I have 107 380 to be exact sister took my tc...
The Merc is THE car to have. Change the timing chains before they NEED to be changed for considerably less cost.
That's really a great idea!
She's right about the Lincoln.
Exactly the Mercedes doesn’t even have a deer whistle
I am with April, I love those Lincolns. You have to expect problems with used cars April. Don't let Tyler put down your car April, Tyler spends a fortune on his car repairs.
@@charlescalkins3485 Maybe if he wasn't addressing April 'in' April he wouldn't have used the name April so much.....🤤
This is why you buy a Japanese car so you don't have to deal with ratchet ass shit they have bulletproof transmissions and engines I have a acura tl
Actually, Tyler doesn't spend a dime on repairs because he writes them off for his channel.
@@RedLP5000S I mean he writes them off as in he uses pretax money to pay for them so its cheaper by whatever his tax rate is.
Town Car needs white wall tires, then everything else will fix itself.
You tell them Anthony!
That’s right
And wire rims
The Lincoln is a great car. Get it sorted out. April is happy with her car, that is a WIN Hoovie. Take the win.
Maybe 80's Mercedes were more reliable than April's Lincoln, but in the last 20 years, Mercedes and BMW have been crap in terms of reliability and cost of maintenance. The transmission should be cheap to replace or rebuild. You built Hoovie's Garage upon this fact.
Well considering the Lincoln is a Ford underneath even replacing a transmission would be half the cost of a Mercedes. I'm guessing the Lincoln is basically a crown Vic underneath which have been proven to be very reliable. Even if the Mercedes had fewer problems the cost of repairs would outweigh the difference in owning one.
Because both Mercedes and BMW stop the engineers from building cars and allowed the accountant's to do that instead and to this day both companies are paying for it 🤦♂️
Every car is a throwaway commodity these days.
Beside the biodegradable wiring harness
@@Jaerotten13 And that was down to the German government environmental laws which told motor manufacturer that all their cars had to be recyclable.
My grandmother had a white on white 90's Town Car. I remember it had a car phone and the mic was in the visor. At a stop light she'd be talking to her visor and people thought she was crazy. A time way before cell phones were common. She loved that car. Whoever got it after she passed got a car with maybe 30,000 miles and driven by a 70 + year old lady in tip top condition.
Also my brother and thought the auto closing trunk was very cool.😄
30000 miles wasn't alot of red lights
I enjoy April's car reviews. And 20 deer ran across my yard when she blew into the deer whistle
Congrats on hitting 60K subscribers. These special Saturday videos have been fantastic since April first got her Lincoln, hope we get to see more videos in this format. Keep up the good work!
You guys work well together in this format, more vids like these please!
This.
April! Don’t give up on your Lincoln! It suits you perfectly!
Timeless classic. The second generation is my favorite of the Town Cars.
Yours is even color themed for Miss Rose. 🌹
I get more folks approach and appreciate the Lincoln than any other car I’ve owned.
agreed
Great videos and, April, way to hold strong on the Lincoln!! I'm a 37 (not 95) yr old life-long LTC fan and just bought my second one, a MINT 1994 white/deep navy blue w/28k miles that has never seen rain or snow and was kept in a windowless garage. I've owned a 95 LTC, BMW 5 and 7, an Infiniti, an Audi S4, a Lexus LS430, a Mercedes GLS... and now I've come full-circle... NONE of the imports have the character of a 88-97 LTC. Swap that transmission and enjoy the car!
Even though I love old Mercs and how solid and reliable they are, I'd still go for the Lincoln
Agreed. The Lincoln is just cooler, especially with the red velour interior. The Mercedes is boring.
@@97I30T My buddys dad had the same one with a green interior, way cooler than the red
@@DjJay A green interior would be my preference as well. Those were incredibly rare, though.
I really enjoy these Saturday videos. Your interactions are entertaining!
I’d have the 126 over most cars, and especially the Lincoln. ..but I do like that she loves that car, and isn’t willing to let it go because a clearly better one comes along. We’ve all had that with something, or someone, and I tip my hat at her for that. ..my dream? The 126 coupe. Amazing Looking, even now.
The Town Car is the greatest American Land Yacht ever made!!!!!
Technically that title goes to the last one made, the Roadmaster, but I'd give this a close 2nd place. I hear that GM lost several thousand dollars on every one they sold.
Disagree.. Country Squire is the BEST panther, 94-96 Roadmaster is up there too. :)
@@plektosgamingthe Roadmaster wasn't the last land yacht, Panther bodies were made deep into the 2000's. Town Car ended in 2011.
@@Vaino_Hotti The production run isn't the important part, but when the last car was introduced. The Roadmaster was markedly more "modern" than the old Panther platform. I've owned both and the Buick was simply a better car with better interior and features as well.. Ford, unfortunately barely made any changes to the entire line for the 20 year run as there was heavy pressure from livery and police, over 95% of their customers, to keep things the same.
It effectively was the best tech in 1992 but by the early 2000s, it was... dated. Without a doubt the best overall, though, if we add in European cars, was the Mercedes S class. (late 90s). Big, built like a tank, and smooth as glass. The double-pane windows and extra insulation made it nearly silent inside. Driving one instantly feels superior in almost every way. The U.S. stuff of the 90s/early 2000s simply did not compete.
@@plektosgaming A 2003+ Town Car is a very different thing than the older ones. Rack and pinion steering, coilover suspension, overhead cam V8 with individual coils, drive by wire, traction control. Xenon headlights, parking sensors, satellite navigation.
The roadmaster was stuck with a pushrod engine with distributor ignition, and you call the Town Car dated?
Youre just full of shit. Btw I own a 95 caprice, so I've got something to compare to.
April is such a nice person that she can have what she wants.
Ask Quinn
I LOVE Town Cars! Would really like to own one one day❤
Hoovie - don’t take this this the wrong way, but great upgrade.
My wife no longer even considers blowing into my deer-whistle…
I had a 1994 Lincoln town car signature series. Absolutely loved it. I don’t care that it was an old man’s car it was so comfortable. I just enjoyed being in it. It was so reliable and not even that bad on gas. It’s probably one of the last quality vehicles Ford made
A common failure with the AOD was the plastic grommet that attached the cable to the throttle. I upgraded mine to a brass grommet from a later year (I think it was from an Explorer).
My guess is this part was the failure point. So easy to replace before it breaks and smokes the transmission. Should have been a recall.
I drove Lincoln Town cars (and other marques) for a living beginning in the 90s. Cadillacs may have had more seating position adjustments but were painful, almost crippling, after just a few hours. Town Cars were infinitely more comfortable for 12-15 hours days behind the wheel. Surely the better luxury ride and seating are a couple reasons for Town Cars becoming synonymous with black car service. Admittedly 2000 era S-Class MB and Cadillac Escalade seats with massagers, heat, and internal A/C ventilation are better. But Town Cars were NOT uncomfortable like everything GM of the era
Why does April always look like she's getting ready for the ski slops;
Tyler, you should bring April to your main channel! Your work REALLY WELL together, but specially in this format of video!
I’m a huge fan of Hoovie and April, but after seeing how much April likes the Grand National and now town car, I’m hooked. Since I was a kid I loved those 90’s Lincoln’s; and it’s nice to see someone my age who appreciates them as well. And don’t worry about the transmission - just replace it and keep going: I have a 2003 Marauder with 320k miles on an original transmission and 2010 Town Car with 210k miles…. These things are workhorses that are built to last and easy and cheap to fix when something does go wrong. Btw: you two make the best content on YT : please keep it coming!
W126 Mercedes Benz platform was and I think still the best of the best in automotive engineering, I have my 1986 420 SEL with only 48k original miles and the car is incredible reliable, comfortable and incredible beautiful.
As much as I love the Lincon, that Benz is a timeless work of art.
I'd rather pay repair bills on the Lincoln. M-B are very expensive in their old age.
Yeah but the Mercedes-Benz is a complete money pit compared to the Lincoln.
It is possible to love both the Town Car and the Mercedes, especially since you can get each of these at very reasonable prices now. I’ve grown to love the old American land yachts. I once had a 1996 Olds Ninety-Eight and when it was right it was beautiful; I had to junk it when the Midwestern salt finally rusted through the brake lines and it just was no longer financially sensible to repair. As far as April’s town car, it is beautiful and in amazing condition, and you do still see them all over the Midwest. Yes, it was the official staff car of AARP, but it was also THE limo of the 1990s, the livery service special taking celebs & powerbrokers to and from the airport. And since it’s basically 80% a Crown Vic it’s tough as nails, you can rack up the miles by the hundreds of thousands, and many of the parts are still very cheap and easy to find.
On the other hand the 500SEL was the official executive car of celebs and stock brokers in the 1980s. If you drove that you were somebody and didn’t mind the world knowing. It is so classy that you could roll up to any country club in America and still look like a Baller to this day.
So, was Hoovie trying to talk her OUT of the Town Car…or himself INTO another Merc W126?
What part of the Midwest are you from?
Kansas City, Missouri.
@erikberg8098 Awesome brother, I'm from St.Louis Missouri
April forgot the signature high kick
well, it's NOT the dumbest, but the smartest automotive channel 😉
Can't after the knee surgery
Hoovie making some funnies in this one! LOL The Lincoln is a Chicago car. I can see why April likes it.
No pre-drilled bullet holes, though?
But the Mercedes is “ribbed for your enjoyment “
More bodies fit in the Lincoln’s trunk.
Those lincolns were great!!!! Easy to get 400,000 miles out of them!!!!
My dad had that same Lincoln Town car. The seats are so plush and with the full front plush velvet couch, many of life's pleasures were made there.
I, myself had a 1980 Mercedes 300d. I loved it.
Since she makes you so happy, you must get both toys.
The Benz seats are hard as a rock, the leather will burn your skin, it rides like a buckboard, and the steering wheel is the size of a manhole cover because the "power steering" is tuned for the autobahn.
Lincolns and Cadillacs from that era are in demand because they have the best balance of technology and comfort
Indeed, my aunt had one she bought it New, I don't recall the year maybe an 81, it was a diesel and had that huge steering wheel, a strong car it's true but as far as comfortable forget about it.
Loving the energy! I live in Scottsdale and attended Barrett Jackson this year, had an opportunity to interact briefly with Hoovie & April, energy is real, both are genuine individuals. Keep up the amazing content.
Some of my all time favorite cars are the 95-97 town cars. Logically yes the Mercedes is probably a better car in every way, but I'm totally with April that the Town Car is the one I want haha
Great Video Guys, I have an Idea Tyler, You being the great Fiancee that you are, you should buy the mercedes and give it to April to use till her Lincoln is fixed. The keep it as a spare ride for the next breakdown.
This is based. Why doesn’t it have more likes
I bought a new town car in 1993 when I was 22 years old. Buying and selling cattle in ten states I put 120k miles on it the first year.
A man after my own heart. How long did you keep it? Miles?
@muziklvr7776 I traded in 97 for a new cc4x4 powerstroke, had just over 400k on the clock.
@@CheyenneSuperDuper Impressive!
I love those old Mercedes. But nothing can take your Captian feeling in an Lincoln or Cadillac landyacht. You win April!
Love the mix of scripted bits with a less scripted second half. Among the be GMYT yet! You two have a natural chemistry which is endearing/
I drove a 94 Lincoln Town Car when I was in my early 20's and it was amazing. It had leather, auto climate and many other features I cannot remember. Oh it was white and had a beige cloth top over the top rear part of the car. The air suspension was key and the v8 had decent power. Got her over 100 many times. With fat white wall tires the car really was a beautiful classic the road so smooth and was so big I could drive all my friends around in. Great times, great car.
April has good taste in Classics. This Good Morning UA-cam should be on 3 times per week not 5 times. Yes Autotempest found my 1989 Ford Probe here in Canada. Tyler stay in Kansas don't let love blind you.
4:25 Ohhhhh myyyyyyy 👀
6:01 🤩👍👍
Tyler, one luck guy 😗
Nah too skinny
Yeah... she has a swimmer/runner body @@BETFRED1981
I'm happy for you Tyler you look happy. Just make sure you have your prenup this time my friend. Things always change in life.
I think your Saturday shows are the best. Thank you Tyler and April.
A proper car good to see, as a previous owner of a E32 750iL a proper car. offer Bob what he needs for the merc
I've always loved this particular Mercedes and many run forever. The venerable Crown Victoria is also a mileage champion when given the chance.
It seems what we have here is a deep pocketed Hovvie who appreciates the Mercedes bloodline and can pay for the upkeep. Brake job maintenance is $3000 ish ? while the bread and butter Vic is what more like $1,000 ? If you challenge these numbers fine but document your objections to the principle - Mercedes cost buckets to maintain compared to the Vic.
My closest friend had a 300 SEL and I absolutely loved that car. He was kind enough and lent it to me, or we swapped cars when he needed my strong 4x4 to do something, and I got to cruise the merc. Feeling like a king on the road in that quite luxury car, but even the 300 had enough power to give that train feeling when you floored it. A strong smooth feeling of movement in a car that felt really heavy. Swalloving imperfections in the road and just floated along, it was a dream to drive long distances. Had to fuel it up a few times, and it was hungry, but who cares with that dream of a car. I absolutely love those large SEL's.
Nicest Mercedes car designed and executed... The ugly US market lights that Mercedes had to put were horrendous. The Car was designed to cruise at 220+ KPH all day with the euro headlights and bumpers.... Lets see the Lincoln come close to being stable at 120 KPH.....
@@charlestimmis273 We live in Norway and got the original version, without the ugly American modifications. Was that for safety reasons, and what was supposedly wrong with the original headlights? I had a Nissan Patrol 4x4 and the rules in Europe at that time, was that the rear lights was mounted too high, so the European version had to get some rear lights inside the bumper, to be up to standard. Totall bullshit if you ask me.
One thing that goes undiscussed in these videos is that the Benz has an independent rear suspension, which makes for a better ride.
@@gudfarfar A long, long time ago -- before WWII -- American automakers were required by regulation to use sealed beams. This was, in its time, a step forward for safety, , because of reliability. By the 80's the European non-sealed lights were safe, reliable, and better, and we were still stuck with the ancient rule mandating seal beam units only.
By the mid 80's, the rule was finally dropped. Now the big difference is aiming pattern.
I'm glad you are happy Hoovie. You are absolutely right about that Mercedes. That is one of the best all-around cars ever made. And clearly there is a good reason so few of those Lincolns have survived.
Hoovie really learned his lesson . Ex-wife used to get the best luxury SUVs (and his house) while his new lady gets a 1984 Merc lol .
Yah no more egg rolls an pho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
If you think she drives these heaps around for anything other than the UA-cam video your nuts lol
The AOD trans works fine. If the throttle shift cable fails, from the plastic clip, or is misadjusted, you will cause damage. My 1988 Ford van, with 220K miles, and a never serviced AOD, works great. Also my 172K mile AOD equipped Thunderbird SC, shifts fine. How about Chrysler, and GM transmission failures?
SC 🤔... I have 3 of them a 91 is an ATX. I have pulled the TV cable through or to tighten it up just a little bit too cause the shift points to raise up in the RPM a little without issue. Whereabouts are you? Those SC are hard to find and rare to see on the road.
As a kid,I grew up with town cars, sedan devilles,and new yorkers.
My mother's last town car was a 93,and my dad's last caddy was an 01.
They were decent cars for the time,but I have an R129 sl600 and an sl500. The feel of those old Benz cars is something you need to experience, is it the best at everything? No,but they are so good,I have never driven anything like the sl600,and I have driven and owned almost as much as Tyler!
Those old German boats are dinosaurs...........the Town Car is classic elegance
Go ALL in, and get April, the 560 SEL, in color 684, a beautiful beige, with a touch of red/Rosé. The Ultimate 80's cruiser, for a timeless supermodel 🙏
684 = "pastel beige"? And all these years I'd been calling it "Afrika Korps tan"!
I also prefer the Lincoln.
My dad had a 90s 560 sel and several Lincoln’s He loved them all but that 560 was probably the best driving car I have ever drove I love that car! Just solid
I am with April. I had a 1996 Lincoln Town Car for 5 years. I loved it. I love Mercedes as well, but repairs are twice as expensive as they are on the Lincoln.
I prefer the lincoln over the S. Yes, the mercedes was a better built car but it lacks character that makes the lincoln special.
I'm with April. My dad always had Mercs, the last one was a '91 420 SE and every time it was serviced it was thousands worth of fixing this and that. Meanwhile I drove a '66 Cadillac, and wouldn't even consider swapping it for a Merc. Granted, by the 80s-90's the American stuff was of lower quality, but still cheaper to buy and maintain and if you like the comfort and "numbness" as I do, well it's not such a clear cut choice.
More fuel efficient? The Town Car sequential multi port fuel injection gets waaay better MPG than the mechanical injection Mercedes
I love the Lincoln 🤷🏻 where fashion sits!
I learned several years ago that if I waited for a well maintained luxury car to come into my budget and then installed a modern sound system with bluetooth and XM options I could have the best of both worlds. Affordable, dependable, and a pleasure to drive. Why buy new when most of what changes isn technology for the users pleasure?
I think April might enjoy exploring some of the late 60’s/early 70’s Thunderbirds, Mercury & perhaps the Lincoln Mark 3 of that era. The Ford quality was at its peak at that point 😊
Yes! Some of those even used real wood on the dashboards back then too 👍
‘66 T-Bird convertible FTW.
@@robertbeirne9813 one of the best designs ever right there…especially awesome with the tonneau on the convertible.
_As much as we love American land yachts, I'm with Hoovie on this one. (My bff still has his 1996 Mercedes-Benz 560SEL AMG, and loves that car). Plus he owns a few Beemers from the brand-new Z4 to a mid-teens 750Li M Sport. At the end of the day, German cars are always better!_
Thousands of deer whistles seen in my lifetime...and yet not one single person ever bothered to blow into one of them. Comedy at it's finest, TY.
My dad had a Lincoln Town car for a while in Scotland, was an absolutely cracking big car, so comfortable and smooth and just a little buzz when moving, it was so quiet! Unfortunately idiots in the street wouldn't leave it alone, so he had to get rid of it.
I really hope this takes off... loving the content
I agree with April. She knows her stuff. Have her on more often!
Oh, by the way, I put about 300,000 miles on an Escort GT. All synthetic oil, changed at 24,000 miles. Any opinion of 3,000 miles oil changes are not up on all synthetic like Mobil 1 !
I’m on your side, April, the Lincoln is good for a little more than 100,000 miles. It sold for a fraction of the Mercedes.
I love April's Town Car. She is very wise to purchase it.
13:31 Top tip - basically all of the creaking on my car came from where the door bottoms were rubbing against the rubbery door sills. After losing my mind and taking apart the entire car looking for the creaks, I eventually fixed it by taping satin cloth underneath the door bottoms. It was a different vehicle entirely after that 👍
Don't do that too her! Like Mercs are ultra reliable...say their HVAC systems.... please...fix the Ford, I mean Lincoln...
A w126 is ultra reliable. Don't confuse its HVAC with that in the w140 series.
My favourite European car is the Citroen CX. It’s extremely comfortable and comes with the amazing powered hydraulic suspension, steering and brakes. Sadly, they did rust but so did everything back then.
I'm not a transmission guy but I've taken apart several AOD's that were common in my area (Aerostars). What I found was a metal "star", about 3/16" thick that connected two sections of the internal drivetrain. The star had it's ears rounded off. It appeared to me that thrust washers at both ends of said drivetrain would wear out, allowing the two gearsets to walk apart. Once the endplay reached about half the thickness of the star, the star would strip out of the companion slot. We'd keep the shifter out of AOD and drove around in 3rd gear until it got fixed.
Lincolns are tried and true from panther body. Beautiful history too. Mercedes are unstoppable if cared for. She has style
While driving my 1986 42SEL the deer would run away as if I had deer a whistle attached. Which tells me way the W126 was designed incorporating a deer whistle along with the rest of the way a car should function. I now have a 1997 S500 as my daily driver and have never been happier.
I picked up the same family lincoln too! Drives like a dream.
I worked in Beverly Hills in the 80s and these were everywhere. Even saw one that was a cab. Beautiful cars.
Years ago, my grandparents early 90's Town Car was passed down to me. I got it to 200K miles, and it was a great comfy car. As for the original transmission, it went out in the 90's when the family was travelling on summer vacation, and my grandparents got it replaced, so it does seem like transmissions were an issue with these models.
I'm so happy for you Hoovie. You seem happy. Now please put that ST:TNG Enterprise D poster up in the new garage.
I owned several. Every single part is available new for this car from doors to dash reputable parts catalogs and you could always repair it and drive it for life.
Lovely ride! Interesting compared to the 90s Oz Fairlane/LTD-similar wheels, front end. Excellent review-we need more ladies doing car stuff-especially genuine ones with knowledge.
That Lincoln is pretty neat for being one of the earliest Ford "modular" V8s ever produced. The predecessor to the Coyote everyone loves today, really.
In some ways, not all that different from the '80s to early '90s W126 V8s. Chan driven SOHC, but the Ford has a more modern fuel injection system. Where the Mercedes is using a mechanical Bosch K-Jetronic, the Lincoln is using EFI port injection like a real modern car.
Should make more power than the old Benz too, but I suspect the Lincoln weighs more than the old S class.
BUT, I do agree that the Mercedes has a very different feel to it. There is a sense of great attention to detail in the engineering and assembly of those old Benzes. Hard to describe. It's not like modern luxury that's got insane electrical features out the wazoo, it's just a car that felt much higher quality than the vast majority of other cars on the road during its day. Sure, it had some more sophisticated features than many cars of its time as well, but nothing really crazy compared to what's out there now.
The later years of that W126, with a 5.5 liter engine and better compression ratio, were a lot of fun. While the Ford 4.6L 2v V-8's are nice and smooth, I don't think they'd have the same grunt.
Entertaining video - thanks! And all points are true. But digging down, is it a fair comparison? $20k price difference in ‘86 is the same as a $57k difference today. It’s like comparing today a $40k new car against a $100k car. Also, as you noted, repair and maintenance cost are at a different level on the German cars. Having stated that, The German cars of 70’s and 80’s were wonderful. Refined well built tanks! Not true anymore; that 40-year old Lincoln is more solid and reliable than most 7+ year-old German cars these days. Disclosure: My car’s German.
What a great UA-cam channel!
This comparison is tough. I’ve owned a 95 300SEL and a 97 Town Car and both cars had their ups and downs. The town car was definitely A LOT more comfortable on the highway. But the 300 SEL felt more on the higher side. Plus the style was superb.
there is no 95 300 SEL... there is 95 S320 or 1991 300 SEL
I've watched your channel for about three years now, and I love it. Thank you. I had a gray market 1984 500SEL bought in Germany w/all records for almost seven years. It had a custom-dyed jade green velour interior, /w the European plastic wheel covers and the engine w/the wilder cam & high compression ratio. Unique. The world's first car to use side impact door beams, etc. All best.
A million years ago I bought a 1991 Lincoln town car. One owner black paint. It was absolutely beautiful. My uncle used to laugh and said people kept stopping me asking were the funeral was. 😂. I'd love to have another one but the problem is when I see one they are worn out and trashed. There is nothing more beautiful than seeing one of these 1990,s era Lincoln town cars we'll kept going down the road but there's nothing uglier than seeing a trashy one going down the road
Bought a 1997 Town Car new. 380k miles later I still loved it. Yeah, I put trans in it. So what. Also owned a 1978 Mercedes 230. Nice drive but WAY more expensive to maintain than the Town Car. Always on the lookout for a low mileage primo 1995/1997 Town Car. SHE'S HOT!!!
Everything you have said that broke- if you ever owned a Lincoln (or Panther Ford product for that matter) you have fixed these issues. My dad’s air always worked. Windows on the 1990 did surprisingly well… but the 1984 none of them worked when he got it. LOL. Trans? AOD was ok…but not rock solid. AODE and 4R70W again, ok. The build quality on the 70’s Lincolns was a little better IMO, the ‘80’s saw a hit but they rebounded a little in the 90’s. Compare a 84 Lincoln with that 84 Mercedes and you’ll really have a very fair comparison.
I'll take the Lincoln any day! There is a reason why the Ford's Panther line vehicles were used as taxis, limos, and police cars. Many of them are running well as daily drivers in excess of 300K miles. Like most domestic vehicles, I'm sure the Lincoln varies by generation.
Sorry Tyler have to go with April's Lincoln!! One reason is if you have an issue you can take it anywhere for repair plus parts are so much cheaper. April has a better taste!
Lincoln for the win.
April, I'm so happy (and jealous) that you two have found each other. I can see Tyler's spirit again, and it's so cute that you bring that out.
Couldn't leave the comments at 666 either.
Does April just become more and more attractive or is it just me? As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
I too would pick the Lincoln over the Benz. Parts are still available and just about any shop can work on them. Can you say that about the Benz Hoovie?