I need to divert ... NOW!

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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
  • In this video Paul and I work on Diversions as they are described in the new ACS. Learn tips and tricks for nailing this task every time.
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  • @FlightChops
    @FlightChops 6 років тому +32

    Love these real time training snippets - really great stuff!

  • @anthonybellotti6062
    @anthonybellotti6062 6 років тому +22

    I gotta be honest, ur probably one of the best instructors I’ve seen in my time, keep it up

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +2

      Anthony Bellotti thanks! I really appreciate hearing that. I work hard on perfecting the craft and comments like that mean everything. Thx

  • @TheWindigomonster
    @TheWindigomonster 6 років тому +6

    I just took my private pilot checkride a week ago, and I can not overstate the value of having the cockpit organized. I actually dedicated some time beforehand to figure out where everything was going to be in the cockpit, and made sure I had a paper sectional in my kneeboard already flipped to the right page in case the examiner wanted me to divert without use of electronics. It's a huge boost in confidence to know where everything is at when the examiner asks for it, and as my examiner told me during the debrief afterwords it definitely helped him be more confident in me as well.

  • @360compass
    @360compass 6 років тому +14

    Great tip on using the scientific method to confirm positions. Never heard of it before. Thanks!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +3

      Thanks Larry. Well ... that's because I thought of it. :) Part of the art (I believe) is finding images / references / stories that will help something click and stick for the pilots I fly with.

  • @texstar77
    @texstar77 5 років тому +2

    Very impressed with the balance of instruction and examiner roles! You keep the pressure on and Pauls mind on a pivot constantly without bouncing all over the subject matter. I'm shopping for a CFI now in the DFW area and now have a new higher standard to look for! Great job from both!!!

  • @asherwelch6046
    @asherwelch6046 6 років тому +2

    Thank you Paul for allowing your lesson to be shared. Good job putting the video together Jason. I definitely got something out of it! Keep up the good work!

  • @iesikhaty
    @iesikhaty 6 років тому +5

    Scientific method? I can appreciate that; smart idea, kinda creates a feedback loop of decision making. In my paper chart cockpit, I was taught to add an MEF (Max Elevation Figure) check on the new course.

  • @marsgal42
    @marsgal42 6 років тому

    Good stuff, as always!
    My first (and so far only) real diversion was on one of my PPL cross-country flights. I was running late, it was starting to get dark, I knew I wouldn't make it to home base in time. Training kicked in, I considered my options and made my choice. My instructor was thrilled: I kept my cool, worked the problem, landed safely. Even asked ATC for help.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Laura Halliday nice! I'm sure your instructor was very relieved that you didn't simply try to push it all the way home. Good PIC decision, nice work

  • @apilotbgsu172
    @apilotbgsu172 4 роки тому

    commercial coming up and this was great info on diversions. Thanks and safe skies

  • @derkiwi151
    @derkiwi151 6 років тому

    Great video. I'm just finishing my cross country and so far have been lucky enough to deal with two real life diversions for weather which I learned a huge amount from. You definitely learn to be prepared and how quickly things can change

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Thanks. So true, somehow that never changes. Even after doing this professionally for 20 years I can still paint myself into corners and wonder how did that happen!?

  • @topofthegreen
    @topofthegreen 4 роки тому

    You are Gods gift to aviation, you inspire me to absolutely dedicated to my profession and flying future.

  • @derekwolfe6182
    @derekwolfe6182 6 років тому

    What a great video!! Thank you Paul for taking us with you and to Jason for putting this together.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Derek Wolfe you're welcome! We're having fun

  • @badnade4886
    @badnade4886 6 років тому

    I’m considering ATP to begin a career in aviation. To be honest, I’m quite intimidated by the task set before me. Your videos have a wonderful effect of empowering me to work harder on my goals. Thank you so much for your positive effect my life. Keep up the good work.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Great to hear that and good luck on your journey! You know about our podcasts too? We do videos and podcasts every other week. www.learnthefinerpoints.com/podcast

  • @RoryOnAir
    @RoryOnAir 6 років тому

    Great video, thanks for sharing.

  • @dennisnbrown
    @dennisnbrown 3 роки тому

    Jason this is an excellent video. It makes me wanna study harder for diversions

  • @110knotscfii
    @110knotscfii 5 років тому

    I’m adding the “scientific method” to my instruction. I used it all the time in IT. Now I get to use it in aviation!

  • @tkldr
    @tkldr 6 років тому

    Good stuff! Thanks for sharing your day at the office!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Sure Seth! I feel lucky to be able to bring it

  • @stephenfarris4952
    @stephenfarris4952 6 років тому

    This is great practice to keep you aware of what could or might happen when your just out flying
    Great video TPF

  • @psyrixx
    @psyrixx 6 років тому

    The short runway at Rio Vista! Love that airport.

  • @YazanTheFighter
    @YazanTheFighter 6 років тому

    thanx so much for such great training pieces of advice

  • @Aero360Aviation
    @Aero360Aviation 6 років тому

    I like that reference of scientific method. My CFI would Always say "trust but verify"

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Aero360Aviation yeah that's a similar thought, I like it

  • @keithhoward9238
    @keithhoward9238 3 місяці тому

    Scientific method is something that I will use always.

  • @thegeek3348
    @thegeek3348 5 років тому

    When you said "use all available resources", is it cool to use your iPad / Foreflight for this part on the checkride? I keep mine on the yoke and have gotten really good with it. On the bottom information bar, I keep nearest airport, ete, distance to, heading, etc. Seems to work really really well.

  • @110knotscfii
    @110knotscfii 6 років тому +2

    Lol.. I'm watching this thinking "I've flown there before".. Then I realized that I did back in May while attending CFI Academy @ Lodi. Was windy. CFI said, "yeah, the fans are on"

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Yes, we get familiar with wind, especially right at the fog line in the summertime. 25-30 kts is common. The fan is on high! haha

    • @110knotscfii
      @110knotscfii 6 років тому

      Yeah.. You aren't kidding. It was a steady 25 knots!

  • @110knotscfii
    @110knotscfii 6 років тому +2

    I'm steeling the "scientific method thing". Love the videos, great work!

  • @kylekendall1587
    @kylekendall1587 6 років тому

    Another Great video Jason!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Thanks Kyle! Nice P51 photo! (*gawk)

    • @kylekendall1587
      @kylekendall1587 6 років тому

      LOL, every pilot's dream plane! That was the picture in my head on my first solo with cessna 150! im sure it flies the same expect for the reduced climb rate!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      oh yeah, exactly the same I'm sure ;)

  • @c_kemper
    @c_kemper 3 роки тому

    We’re still not allowed any EFBs on skills test in the uk… paper chart, whizz wheel and ruler…

  • @velavanlaack9134
    @velavanlaack9134 4 роки тому

    Are you still teaching? I'd love to have lessons with you

  • @mikercflyer7383
    @mikercflyer7383 6 років тому

    I am not a pilot just an rc flyer but enjoy your videos very much. BTW you flew into Jerry W air space do you know of him?

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Michael Stern thanks! I’m glad you’re watching. I don’t believe I do, any more info?

  • @krishansen9674
    @krishansen9674 5 років тому

    I have heard the DPE does not like Technology. I use ForeFlight I know I can fly with out it. It make flight planning easier to explain. Would I be scared that he will not allow it?

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  5 років тому

      I'd plan to start out using everything you have and also be fully prepared to fly without it

  • @Dan007UT
    @Dan007UT 5 років тому

    Some say step one is change your heading towards one of your alternates so you aren't heading into i.e bad weather. And then figure out the rest

  • @drumcoveraddict
    @drumcoveraddict 6 років тому

    It looked like he waited until the needle was perfectly centered before he turned from his intercept course onto his intended course. Is it ok to do that since you were still pretty far away, or would it be better to start to turn to the new course BEFORE the needle centers, so you don't overshoot it?

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Kinda like you suggested that depends on how far away you are, how fast you're moving and how severe the intercept angle is. We use 30 degrees as a standard intercept and 45 degrees as "aggressive", then measure the speed of the needle movement and make the appropriate judgement

  • @chrismagee2630
    @chrismagee2630 4 роки тому

    You're allowed to use GPS to divert on a check ride in the US?

  • @Juliette_4
    @Juliette_4 5 років тому

    all flight instructors should be as good as you.

  • @carlylea
    @carlylea 5 років тому

    Is this CPL or PPL training?

  • @allenmetz3293
    @allenmetz3293 3 роки тому

    Since when does your dpe allow you to use gps to get direction and mileage for diversions.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  3 роки тому

      This depends, of course, on the DPE. But here in our local area since about 2017

  • @jamespowers3011
    @jamespowers3011 2 роки тому

    Could you please re-post this video without the background music? Thanks

  • @auspilot6119
    @auspilot6119 6 років тому

    Are you allowed to use the GPS in flight tests in the USA?

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Yes. At this point, it's encouraged to do what you'd "really" do. Although that is somewhat examiner dependent

    • @auspilot6119
      @auspilot6119 6 років тому

      The Finer Points seems like a policy that actually makes sense unlike the rules here in Australia. Love the podcast and channel by the way Jason!

    • @TheWindigomonster
      @TheWindigomonster 6 років тому

      It is allowed, although some examiners will "fail" GPS during the flight test to make sure you know how to do everything the old fashioned way.

  • @SirRawtcha
    @SirRawtcha 6 років тому

    How many hours into flight training are we required to understand this?

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      If you think of Private training in 3 phases (Pre Solo / Cross Country / Check ride prep) this fits into Cross Country training. You will work on it with your CFI after you solo. Hard to say how many hours or months .... everybody is a little different. You should read the ACS all the way through asap though to get your head around what the FAA is requiring for the certificate you're pursuing.

    • @SirRawtcha
      @SirRawtcha 6 років тому

      The Finer Points hehe, not sure what the acs is yet, but will read it cover to cover as soon as I do. Your content has been extremely helpful in getting me ready for school. Thanks again!

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +1

      Rocky Taylor roger check it out here -
      www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/acs/media/private_airplane_acs_6A.pdf

  • @Fabi_Hansi92
    @Fabi_Hansi92 6 років тому +1

    When on a VFR check ride, am I allowed to use VORs/DMEs and NDBs for navigation or may I use GPS/charts only?

    • @infotechsailor
      @infotechsailor 6 років тому

      they'll be impressed if you use navigational beacons. just make sure you push to listen to their ID (confirm their morse code identity). they may or may not allow ipad/gps, but I guarantee you they will be ok with you using charts and NAVAIDS

    • @mitch8418
      @mitch8418 6 років тому +1

      You are not allowed to use them for the navigation portion of your check ride, only dead reckoning.

  • @brianmoeller3539
    @brianmoeller3539 6 років тому

    Good stuff as usual. For videos like this, I like to "follow" along on maps, so this is what figured was your flight path (skyvector.com/?ll=37.989380417832386,-121.85806274056806&chart=301&zoom=2&fpl=3750N12148W%203801N12138W%203807N12144W%20O88).
    Even though he wanted direct, letting that course deviation go unnoticed for probably about 3-5 minutes placed him well off course before you brought it to his attention. Goes to show how quickly you can get yourself "lost" if you're not checking. I see Paul's use of pilotage and using visual cues for a position check, but with a hazy day (tough to tell in video), would VOR triangulation be a better choice or just another option? I guess if you could still see Mt. Diablo, then you had enough visual evidence to support your position check.
    I would think that if there was still some doubt in your visual position check, then you would begin the VOR position check to get final confirmation. Just wondering your thoughts on that. Thanks.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому +2

      Wow Brian, nice work on re creating that! Yes, I think VOR triangulation would be beneficial, in this case --- he had a GPS course to supplement the visual cues I just wanted to make sure he followed it. Either GPS or VOR to supplement visual on a hazy day (or any day) is part of that "scientific method"

  • @khutko1477
    @khutko1477 5 років тому

    Anyone know the name of the song in the beginning ?

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  5 років тому +1

      I can't recall but I got it off Premium Beats

    • @khutko1477
      @khutko1477 5 років тому

      @@TheFinerPoints Cool Thx.

  • @mikercflyer7383
    @mikercflyer7383 6 років тому

    Did you get a chance to check Jerry's video?

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Michael Stern yes it was fun

    • @mikercflyer7383
      @mikercflyer7383 6 років тому

      Until recently he flew with a map and a little Garmin on his yoke.

    • @TheFinerPoints
      @TheFinerPoints  6 років тому

      Michael Stern yeah when you’re old school it’s familiar that way. When I learned there was no GPS either so even having a little Garmin on the yoke is a huge enhancement