Hello, I’m a new for the fly fishing. I’m musician, play violin and viola. I’m originally from Ukraine. In Ukraine fly fishing is not popular, I would like to introduce fly fishing for the Ukrainians and I need a support. I will be very appreciated for any help and support in this. I just got my orvis combo, I’m very low on the budget, and don’t know what kind of flys I need to have. Will be very appreciated for any suggestions! Thank you so much for your understanding.
Interesting video. I've fished this method in the 70s and 80s on some NW rivers, never knew what is was called. Picked up some tips to make it more effective, thank you!
I started Euro Nymphing last summer and I'm amazed at how effective this method is. Last fall while rigging up at a public access point, I spoke to a fly fisherman who had returned to his vehicle. He said he tried everything and didn't get a hit. I asked if he had tried Euro nymphing and he said he hadn't. In years past I had also been skunked in this stretch of river. Needless to say, I caught a small brown on the first cast and continued catching wild browns on a regular basis for the next hour. I even caught the same 20" brown twice!
Much of this isnt exactly as they say. If you're indicator fishying the right way your nymphs stay at the same depth through most of the drift which can be as far as you can cast upstream and as far down stream as you're able to let them drift. With Euro nymphing you're getting drag towards yourself all the time unless you are fishing DIRECTLY under the tip of your rod. Physics rules here. Also you're greatly limited in your distance, I'd bet my life your drift at depth is about 15 feet right in front of you. your line is suspended by the tip of your rod creating a circular arch with everythign you do, and there is only so much line you can pull in, and let out to keep that nymph in a straight line. Also the tip of your rod is the extent of your reach, and as you point upstream and then move the tip of your rod down stream youre creating a 2nd arch, this one horizontal, the center of which is the shoulder of your rod hand. that arch will push the nymph away from you on the upstream and once directly in front of you and directly under the rod tip will then pull the nymph towards you following the arch of the rod tip and shoulder joint.
I've been flyfishing for 50 years. I've always been interested in learning new methods and techniques to catch more and bigger fish. As I've gotten older I fish the way I find the most enjoyable, and that is casting, mending, and feeding a fly line. It is fly fishing at its core. I'm pretty liberal about what is flyfishing as long as a fly line is being used. I draw the line when a fly line is not part of the gig. Euronymphing can be done with ultralight spinning gear and therefore is not flyfishing in my book.
Euronymphing, center pin reel float fishing for steelhead, Leisenring Lift nymphing, all improve the stable position of the fly in the water column. Each has us imagining the nymph in a dance from surface to bottom and waiting for a tiny take. Maybe even doing hook sets every five feet. I have watched a lot of fly fishermen do all of this. The more engaged and connected to the fly tension, the better is the experience.
Tag ends catch air and greatly increase wind pull on your line. Solution in part is to clip those ends off on windy river conditions. Any float of line or indicator on the water will move a nymph at top water speed once equilibrium of line curve is reached. And to some extent even the tippet line is pulled by the upper current flow regardless of all the talk. However turbulence within the water flow from rock bottom to surface allows for erratic movement of objects flies nymphs etc. Hence the fish are fooled some of the time, which is fishing right?
@@jeff9062 this is dry dropping. Check out their other video on it. Has the same issues as a regular indicator and trying to mend it. EN is great when the water's high or the surface to bottom movement is very different, or is deep and hard to trop nymphs to
Fish nymphs 90% of the time. I never use a strike indicator. They are not necessary and really a pain to manage with casts of any length. I've found that the swing is about as effective as a euro-nymphing technique. Depends upon the situation.
If you don't use a strike indicator, you are missing most of the substle fish strikes because most strikes are undetectable on the main line. They are also vital for keeping the nymph in the correct depth of water through the drift. The only time this doesnt apply is high sticking techniques like this
This is going to be a stupid question to anyone who’s a seasoned euro nympher… but how preposterous is it to use something like a 9’ 3wt with a standard leader for something like this? I’ve always kind of hated nymphing, LOATHE strike indicators and have long since noticed that my 9’ NRX 3wt is pretty sensitive (which makes sense since my bass fishing NRX stuff is the same way). This style of tight line nymphing might be the answer for someone like me…I just don’t want to buy a dedicated 10+ foot rod for something I’m still not 100% stoked about just yet. When overlined, that old NRX 3wt is the most versatile rod I’ve ever held…I just don’t know if it’s quite THIS versatile. I also have a newer 6wt…it’s just not quite as lively and small fly friendly.
I would say that your 9' rod would still be more than enough, the only advantage of the heavier line weight would be to allow more casting distance especially in a breeze, followed by a little more control over the nymph due to the extra length. Other than that, you are doing it right. Remember, this is a show that wants you to go buy the biggest and best equipment!
@@JohnRitson78 You can start off how I did, and buy a euro nymphing leader, like a 30'. That ensures you don't have fly line out, because it's too heavy and always pulls the mono back down the guides. Works well enough, and if you loop to loop, you can switch back pretty quick.
The 3wt is likely plenty to learn... It certainly is challenging to control a larger fish: one pound bluegill, two pound smallmouth bass, 18"+ trout...in a river pulling upstream
Most dedicated Euro nymphing rods are a 2 or 3wt so what you are missing is the added length for reach and maybe some stiffness in the butt section for fighting fish. I would go try with your 9' 3wt and if you love it, then decide if you want a dedicated EN rod.
I learned to bait fish from some real pros 70 years ago. They were guys who fished crawlers and spun minnows with fly rods in this manner. This is bait dunking. I know it is deadly. No thanks.
I just broke my rod today 😔, fishing in green lake Seattle. I saw the birds going after the bugs hatching, deduce there were some stock trout eating, was getting ready to set my rig......broke tip 😞my 4 year old cheap fly rod..
Thank you for this awesome tutorial. Getting ready to buy my first fly setup, now I'm thinking about a nymph setup vs. The official 9'-5weight beginner set up.
@@divoc1736 Why does everyone recommend a 5 wt vs 4wt to start? 5 is like a tree trunk, and so much less feel than a 4, and unless you're trying to hurl 70+' (and have the back cast clearance for it) then why? I listened, started with a 5, and never pick it up after trying a 4wt. And my primary is the Farmington you see in the vid. There's just no space for a 5wt anywhere on it that you wouldn't have been better off with a 4wt 8'6" or 9
@@andrewouimette5389and the 4wt is more a tuned to the most common little darlings in the river. Agree. For some added excitement for to a 3wt...9 foot allows for small poppers for huge bluegill on ponds and lakes for fantastic fun and great eating --- a one pound bluegill will test your fishing skill. Beware of the line busting larger bass... Tight lines
Says the guy with the only video being a tenkara. Same thing, less control. Try fast water and pockets where dry flies are never taken. Try smaller streams where you can't back cast
If you remove all fun, grace, and skill from fly fishing, you have Euro nymphing. First used by poachers selling trout to restaurants, now popular amongst the lunatic fringe who pay to enter fly fishing competitions.
It is much more skilful- for a start you actually cast the line (not lob it), secondly there is the challenge of managing the line on the water. It should be banned on fly only waters.
That is a bit shocking. I am pondering getting into fly fishing for brown trout, but much of what is shown here I can do much easier, better controlled and also cheaper with my UL spinning setup.
You are quite right. This is not really fly fishing. There is no skill in presentation, in fact no casting at all. It’s a travesty to conflate euro nymphing and fly fishing.
this is very much like Tenkara fishing
Hello, I’m a new for the fly fishing. I’m musician, play violin and viola. I’m originally from Ukraine. In Ukraine fly fishing is not popular, I would like to introduce fly fishing for the Ukrainians and I need a support. I will be very appreciated for any help and support in this. I just got my orvis combo, I’m very low on the budget, and don’t know what kind of flys I need to have.
Will be very appreciated for any suggestions! Thank you so much for your understanding.
I forgot to mention, I live in northern Delaware
Interesting video. I've fished this method in the 70s and 80s on some NW rivers, never knew what is was called. Picked up some tips to make it more effective, thank you!
I noticed he doesn't keep his line 90 degrees vertical in the drift. When I fish the Alps with Italian guides, they insist this is the correct way.
I started Euro Nymphing last summer and I'm amazed at how effective this method is. Last fall while rigging up at a public access point, I spoke to a fly fisherman who had returned to his vehicle. He said he tried everything and didn't get a hit. I asked if he had tried Euro nymphing and he said he hadn't. In years past I had also been skunked in this stretch of river. Needless to say, I caught a small brown on the first cast and continued catching wild browns on a regular basis for the next hour. I even caught the same 20" brown twice!
Sometimes the fish just turn on especially later in the day.
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Very informative show. Learned a lot.
In Europe we call it Czech nymphing.
Much of this isnt exactly as they say. If you're indicator fishying the right way your nymphs stay at the same depth through most of the drift which can be as far as you can cast upstream and as far down stream as you're able to let them drift. With Euro nymphing you're getting drag towards yourself all the time unless you are fishing DIRECTLY under the tip of your rod. Physics rules here. Also you're greatly limited in your distance, I'd bet my life your drift at depth is about 15 feet right in front of you. your line is suspended by the tip of your rod creating a circular arch with everythign you do, and there is only so much line you can pull in, and let out to keep that nymph in a straight line. Also the tip of your rod is the extent of your reach, and as you point upstream and then move the tip of your rod down stream youre creating a 2nd arch, this one horizontal, the center of which is the shoulder of your rod hand. that arch will push the nymph away from you on the upstream and once directly in front of you and directly under the rod tip will then pull the nymph towards you following the arch of the rod tip and shoulder joint.
Use to be called high sticking been doing it since the 70s
I actually GET it now. Nice vid!!
Ummm...wasn't this called "high sticking" back in the day?
Do you have any thoughts on Tenkara Fishing?
The best way to introduce someone to fly fishing. Especially, sub-surface.
Very nice video, this the second time I have watched it and will probably watch again. Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
I've been flyfishing for 50 years. I've always been interested in learning new methods and techniques to catch more and bigger fish. As I've gotten older I fish the way I find the most enjoyable, and that is casting, mending, and feeding a fly line. It is fly fishing at its core. I'm pretty liberal about what is flyfishing as long as a fly line is being used. I draw the line when a fly line is not part of the gig. Euronymphing can be done with ultralight spinning gear and therefore is not flyfishing in my book.
Euronymphing, center pin reel float fishing for steelhead, Leisenring Lift nymphing, all improve the stable position of the fly in the water column. Each has us imagining the nymph in a dance from surface to bottom and waiting for a tiny take. Maybe even doing hook sets every five feet. I have watched a lot of fly fishermen do all of this. The more engaged and connected to the fly tension, the better is the experience.
Tag ends catch air and greatly increase wind pull on your line. Solution in part is to clip those ends off on windy river conditions. Any float of line or indicator on the water will move a nymph at top water speed once equilibrium of line curve is reached. And to some extent even the tippet line is pulled by the upper current flow regardless of all the talk. However turbulence within the water flow from rock bottom to surface allows for erratic movement of objects flies nymphs etc. Hence the fish are fooled some of the time, which is fishing right?
Prefer to fish a dry or attractor style fly with a wet/nymph/buzzer following it
Does the dry fly work as an indicator?
@@jeff9062yep!
@@jeff9062 this is dry dropping. Check out their other video on it. Has the same issues as a regular indicator and trying to mend it. EN is great when the water's high or the surface to bottom movement is very different, or is deep and hard to trop nymphs to
This video was thorough and informative but the debate in the comments is elite 🍿
Praise Tom!
Very helpful video...thanks for sharing Tom/George
Can I use the Nymph method in Saltwater
Fish nymphs 90% of the time. I never use a strike indicator. They are not necessary and really a pain to manage with casts of any length. I've found that the swing is about as effective as a euro-nymphing technique. Depends upon the situation.
If you don't use a strike indicator, you are missing most of the substle fish strikes because most strikes are undetectable on the main line. They are also vital for keeping the nymph in the correct depth of water through the drift. The only time this doesnt apply is high sticking techniques like this
A plastic bobber and a 1/64 crappie jig same result.
Lee Wulff is spinning in his grave.⚰️
In some ways it resemble Tenkara fishing.
This is going to be a stupid question to anyone who’s a seasoned euro nympher… but how preposterous is it to use something like a 9’ 3wt with a standard leader for something like this? I’ve always kind of hated nymphing, LOATHE strike indicators and have long since noticed that my 9’ NRX 3wt is pretty sensitive (which makes sense since my bass fishing NRX stuff is the same way). This style of tight line nymphing might be the answer for someone like me…I just don’t want to buy a dedicated 10+ foot rod for something I’m still not 100% stoked about just yet. When overlined, that old NRX 3wt is the most versatile rod I’ve ever held…I just don’t know if it’s quite THIS versatile. I also have a newer 6wt…it’s just not quite as lively and small fly friendly.
I would say that your 9' rod would still be more than enough, the only advantage of the heavier line weight would be to allow more casting distance especially in a breeze, followed by a little more control over the nymph due to the extra length. Other than that, you are doing it right. Remember, this is a show that wants you to go buy the biggest and best equipment!
@@JohnRitson78 You can start off how I did, and buy a euro nymphing leader, like a 30'. That ensures you don't have fly line out, because it's too heavy and always pulls the mono back down the guides. Works well enough, and if you loop to loop, you can switch back pretty quick.
The 3wt is likely plenty to learn... It certainly is challenging to control a larger fish: one pound bluegill, two pound smallmouth bass, 18"+ trout...in a river pulling upstream
Most dedicated Euro nymphing rods are a 2 or 3wt so what you are missing is the added length for reach and maybe some stiffness in the butt section for fighting fish. I would go try with your 9' 3wt and if you love it, then decide if you want a dedicated EN rod.
This was the best explanation of the cast. At last I now know why I struggled so much with the cast. thankyou
Very good video.
I learned to bait fish from some real pros 70 years ago. They were guys who fished crawlers and spun minnows with fly rods in this manner. This is bait dunking. I know it is deadly. No thanks.
Its fly fishing 😢🎉
I just broke my rod today 😔, fishing in green lake Seattle. I saw the birds going after the bugs hatching, deduce there were some stock trout eating, was getting ready to set my rig......broke tip 😞my 4 year old cheap fly rod..
Thank you for this awesome tutorial. Getting ready to buy my first fly setup, now I'm thinking about a nymph setup vs. The official 9'-5weight beginner set up.
If your just starting out I suggest the 9'-5. You can throw all types of flies with that setup. Drys , streamers , you can nymph with it.
@@divoc1736 Why does everyone recommend a 5 wt vs 4wt to start? 5 is like a tree trunk, and so much less feel than a 4, and unless you're trying to hurl 70+' (and have the back cast clearance for it) then why? I listened, started with a 5, and never pick it up after trying a 4wt. And my primary is the Farmington you see in the vid. There's just no space for a 5wt anywhere on it that you wouldn't have been better off with a 4wt 8'6" or 9
@@andrewouimette5389and the 4wt is more a tuned to the most common little darlings in the river. Agree. For some added excitement for to a 3wt...9 foot allows for small poppers for huge bluegill on ponds and lakes for fantastic fun and great eating --- a one pound bluegill will test your fishing skill. Beware of the line busting larger bass... Tight lines
Can any tell me which fly patterns work best in April and may
Rooster tail
So many variables,get out there and flip some rocks take pictures or bring jars to keep samples and go home and tie something that matches it
Its effective, but boring. Its not for me.
Says the guy with the only video being a tenkara. Same thing, less control. Try fast water and pockets where dry flies are never taken. Try smaller streams where you can't back cast
If u are goin to fish this way, it's better to switch to lure fishing
Or just do what you like to do?
Flies are lures
It’s about the the sport of it, not efficiency.
Oh. You don’t like Czech nymphing so it’s not okay. Right. Got it. 😂
😂 what???
If you remove all fun, grace, and skill from fly fishing, you have Euro nymphing. First used by poachers selling trout to restaurants, now popular amongst the lunatic fringe who pay to enter fly fishing competitions.
😂 don't be mad because we clean runs you couldn't get a hit in.
Yeah, fishing under an indicator is much more fun, graceful, and skillful 😂.
So well said.
It is much more skilful- for a start you actually cast the line (not lob it), secondly there is the challenge of managing the line on the water.
It should be banned on fly only waters.
Why not go the whole hog and use bait? The essence of fishing is skill and challenge. This method cheapens our sport.
That is a bit shocking. I am pondering getting into fly fishing for brown trout, but much of what is shown here I can do much easier, better controlled and also cheaper with my UL spinning setup.
You are quite right. This is not really fly fishing. There is no skill in presentation, in fact no casting at all. It’s a travesty to conflate euro nymphing and fly fishing.
This a marketing video, notice almost no catching?
You could use a cane pole that's 12 to 15 feet and nymph a tight line too...
Respectfully, euro nymphing is not fly fishing. It ought to be banned on fly fishing only water.
Its a fly, attached to a fly reel, fly line, tippet.... seems a lot like fly fishing to me
In your humble opinion.