@@snathan3198 Agree to a certain extent. But these two recent actions, plus Pulwama came immediately in response to peace overtures and were literally a stab in the back.
There was a time we trusted Hinduthwatians and the bunias bought our vast fertile lands for dimes and pennies. It was us who always beseeched Quaid e Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah Rehmat Allah Alaih not to agree on anything less than absolute separation of the states and nations. The Quaid came to our place 3 times for dinner and after the dinners and meetings my grandpa's baby brother asked him to divide the land as even brothers do better when they divide their ancestral lands everywhere in the world. We could've stayed in India if it had remained a democratic state of the empire. We could also have remained with India if India were a socialist state but we couldn't, wouldn't and never shall be part of any state where a hegemonic majority would dictate us everything from lifestyle to religion and that's what Hinduthwatians did since 1820s. And it was also our forefathers who took Delhi in 1761 alongwith Ahmed Shah Baacha, saved Mianwali from Kharak Singh in 1821 and took Multan from Molraj in 1848 alongwith Herbert Edwards. My grandpa took 120 fighting men to Burma when his British friends asked him to help them fight against Japan. And this is the story of every true Pakistani. We are a war fighting people and shall fight till the end of time and our land shall remain our land till the world remains.
@@Battlemen1761 Present day Pakistan's Muslims were the hand maidens of British. Before that they were retainers of Afghans & Central Asian brigands. Fun part is that before 1946 Punjab was ruled by the Unity Part which was against partition. The demand for Pakistan came from present day UP & Bihar. A majority of those Muslims stayed back or landed up in East Bengal ( Bangladesh) and are still rotting there. As for Jinnah or even Liaqat- tgey got Pakistan as a gift from British with the the main purpose of looking after western interests. You people are expendable. Your apocalypse might not be too far. Watch out. Just hope that you people don't suffer as much as the minorities have suffered in Pakistan. If you get a situation similar to minorities in India - that will way above anything that you have enjoyed in India.
The interview reveals that some civilian bureaucrats are more hard-line than generals. For instance, General Musharraf instructed his ambassador not to raise the Kashmir issue at the UN, yet the ambassador disregarded this directive. What was achieved by persistently raising the Kashmir issue at the UN? What did the country gain from this? There was a time when Kashmir was offered to Pakistan on a platter, but Jinnah and Liaquat declined. This is documented in the autobiographies of Sardar Shaukat Hayat, Sardar Ibrahim, and Feroz Khan Noon. Chaudhri Muhammad Ali, who served as Prime Minister of Pakistan from 1955 to 1956, also wrote about it in his book "The Emergence of Pakistan." Furthermore, A.G. Noorani, a preeminent authority on the Kashmir issue, has dropped a truth bomb on Pakistanis in his book, "The Kashmir Dispute," published by Oxford University Press, Karachi. On page 231, he mentions that on November 1, 1947, Mountbatten met Jinnah in Lahore and proposed a plebiscite in Kashmir, Junagadh, and Hyderabad, which Jinnah refused.
@@ImtiazGulOfficial Agree. Except for the claim made in the books mentioned there is no other evidence or reference in Indian archives. It is highly unlikely for Sardar Patel to make such an offer.
@@ImtiazGulOfficial Jinnah-Mountbatten talks occurred on 1 November 1947 in Lahore. These talks are well documented. Why don’t you read about it? Yes, Jinnah sahib is not alive but a record of all his speeches and writings is kept by the government of Pakistan. Please read Selected speeches and statements of the Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah (1911-34 and 1947-48) / collected & edited by M. Rafique Afzal.
@@R.kandaswamy Sourced from Sardar Patel's Correspondence 1945-1950 by Durga Das that was published in 1971, 1977 and 1981 and introduced as a formula. “The Governments of India and Pakistan agree that, where the ruler of a State does not belong to the community to which the majority of his subjects belong, and where the State has not acceded to that Dominion whose majority community is the same as the States. the question of whether the State finally accedes to one or the other Dominions should in all cases be decided by an impartial reference to the will of the people."
@@R.kandaswamy In a speech at the Bahauddin College in Junagadh, after its accession but before the accession of Hyderabad, Sardar Patel is quoted as: “If Hyderabad does not see the writing on the wall, it goes the way Junagadh has gone. Pakistan attempted to set off Kashmir against Junagadh. When we raised the question of settlement in a democratic way, they (Pakistan) at once told us that they would consider it if we applied that policy to Kashmir. Our reply was that we would agree to Kashmir if they agreed to Hyderabad.” Gandhi, Rajmohan. Patel: A Life, p. 438
Pakistan started 4 wars with India , lost all of them and 1971 lost 1/3 of their country. Kargil war was back stabbing by Pakistan that exposed them to world
By the time Nawaj Sharif went to America, the key posts had already fallen to Indian Army ie Tolo- ling and Tiger hill apart from 45 other posts. Pakistanis were on the run and that was the reason that Musharraf was keener on a solution. All lies from Mujahidin to bravery of a timid always war losing Army and undeclared very heavy causalities of Pakistani soldiers stood exposed.
This guy either doesn't know the fact or lieing intentionally. India had to occupy Siachin after learning about the plan of Pakistan army to break the understanding and occupy Siachin heights. Indian army outsmarted Pakistan army by moving swiftly and occupy the heights before they could do it. Kargil was another foolish plan of Pakistan army which our forces won .
O hindu banye hamare alaqy wapas krdo , wapas to karogy nhi tm , chal dakna tm ane wale saal do saal me wese bhi aalmi jang start hone ko he pakistani army tara band bajane hi wali he ja hindustani tere pas waqt km he hindustan bachane ki feker kr , tom hindustanio ko kashmirio ki aaahhh lagi jo aag tmne kashmir me lagae he wo aag tere ghar tak pohanchne wali he modi ki hamqato ki barkat se . Jinaah , imran khan , pakistan ❤ zindabad
Cant believe this guy was a foreign minister. The knowledge and the level of thinking is so low. Not surprised the state of Pakistan is in today when you have people like these working in top level positions.
Pakistan cannot try to become spokesman of indian muslims and remain separate too. If you care so much for them why you left? Simple. Why leave them.behind? Take them
As a Pakistani from POK, I am fed up of this country - no resources, no ata no bijli - IN please send the mukti bahini to save us.......Love from Muzafrabad, POK
Hey Kingkong.. next time you impersonate enemy, please don’t describe yourself as from ‘POK’ … they would call themselves something else, as this noun is not a part of lingua franca there… otherwise, good word - keep it up.
On Kargil misadventure Mushraff and 3/4 other generals should have been court martial and sent to jail for at least 14 years. Same generals helped Mushraff on 12th October 1999 to bring into power.
How can a country prosper whose military does self adventure, whose military is not answerable to Govt, whose Govt is not answerable to people, whose tax payers not answerable to Govt, elite does not believe on country, choose abroad destinations for future investment?
Dear Imtiaz saheb Ex foreign secretary has effectively played his role,, now We are facing the music , until facedout from map Both stay blessed and your party
Fully agree. This idiot was appointed by NS as foreign secretary against merit. He used to mumble in front of NS and his father but now claims that he was the main man behind everything!😅😅😅
ملک میں آگ لگی ہوئی تھی اور ہمارے وزیراعظم ہانگ کانگ کےسیون سٹار ہوٹل دیکھنے چلے گئے اور آرمی چیف نتھیا گلی میں تھے اور وزیر خارجہ کہیں اور تھے اور ہمارے فوجی جوان شہید ہو رہے تھے.
In 1947 it was PAKISTAN who attacked & invaded the. Independent sovereign KASHMIRI kingdom & not INDIA. At the behest of MAHARAJA of KASHMIR. INDIA intervened & stopped PAK Military in further occupying. However, the PAKISTANIS twist & turn the history. Even the UNO states PAKISTAN as the aggressor & not INDIA.
It is astonishing how a group of grown up and literate people together could make such utterly stupid decisions that would further sink this godforsaken country and its hapless awam into a quagmire of ignorance, suffering, exploitation, penury and global shame.
These people are so shameless ,due to their stupid decisions Pakistan is on the verge of economic collapse and on bankruptcy . Generals says that they have won all wars against India . This man is claiming that like everyone in Pakistan , is architect of nuclear blasts in Pakistan .
Objective of Kargil war was not Kashmir but Pakistan Army Coup to take power from PM Nawaz Sharif and he fell for it. Pakistan army has the tendency to think that democratic govt is a weak institution and cannot negotiate with India from a point of strength, so Pak army wants to negotiate with India from the point of strength. But India has clearly said it will never negotiate with any military dictator.. negotiation will only happen between democratic govt. That's why Musharafs 4 point agenda failed. India supports democracy in Pakistan, but unfortunately Pakistan never has democracy all its govt have been titular govt run by the establishment (army).
😮😮 _Islam humanity k liye compatible religion nahi h_ *Balki kuran ki 33/61 aor 66/9 ayat k mutabik to islam dusre firke k musalmano k liye bhi compatible nahi h*
Yaar ye inka retd foreign secretary hai. Isse Pakistan ki education system ka pta chalta h. Ye log humari barabri agle 50 saal tak nhi kr payenge kam se kam.
@@attaqazi1663 chalo aapne apni foreign secretary ka standard to maana chahe India ke basic education system ke upar taana marke hi.🤣 That's progress. Apke diplomats sirf bongiyan maarte hain unfortunately.
@imtiazgulofficial @shakilchaudhary Sirs, Discussions, not Agreements mind you between say Jinnah, Gandhi, Nehru, Liaquat, Patel etc during the early days of Independence has no meaning and therefore cannot be referenced Reason: Realpolitik drives Pakistan, straight out Hardnosed Practicality if you listen to the Foreign Secretary. Pakistan is willing to discard the Shimla Agreement, which saved its 90K troops abandoned in Bangladesh as apparent in the discussion. I think the GOI sees any agreement with Pakistan as "Not worth the paper" written on due to this "Realpolitik" attitude of Pakistan displayed again & again. And the people of India also support their govt in their disdain. We will wait for Pakistan to sue for Peace then give our hand forward this time.
Agreeing with you except that this is not realpolitik. Realpolitik would tell Pakistan to open trade with India and clamp down on inflation. Realpolitik would tell Pakistan to get over it's debt addiction and call CPEC for what it is, a noose around it's neck. Realpolitik would tell Pakistan that Afghanistan and Taliban don't agree with them on Durand line and that is a strategic threat and not strategic depth and we know how they have dealt with any of those issues. Pakistan is deluded
He has so many inside information. Please do another longer video with him. The world should know how the policies were being made in the corridors of power. The entire world will learn to form more nuanced policy response on Pakistan. How the institutions behave in Pakistan is something the world still does not understand properly. I may not agree with his point of view , but I certainly appreciate his insights.
Imtiaz Gul Sir Pakistan unlike India has no constitutional relationship with Kashmir. Therefore the democratic institutions of Pakistan cannot stake a claim. So what is Pakistan left with ?
The Pakistani army has never won a war against India having lost all four wars till date. In 1971 when Pakistani General Niazi along with his + 90,000 strong contingent of Pakistani troops surrendered to General Arora of India, it was the second largest surrender in history of warfare, only after the mass surrender of the 3rd Reich which ended 2nd world war ! This is the sordid history of the Pakistani army which the Pakistanis seem to gloat over. It this same Pakistani army which has now shamelessly turned itself into a real estate mafia, buying and selling property with tax payers money, reaping huge profits meant to line the deep pockets of their army generals , all of whom, post retirement, settle down abroad, living a luxurious life at the expense of the common Pakistani man. Amazing !
People of such mental level and calibre reach to become foreign secretary of Pakistan . I am shocked and not surprised to see the pit in which they have reached today
Article 370 was a temporary Article of the constitution of India which was to be removed after the plebiscite would have taken place in kashmir as per UN Resolution. Problem was that Pakistan never complied with the first conditions of implementation of UN resolution on Kashmir which would have led to plebiscite. On this Failure by pakistan, India had no choice but to continue with the temporary Article -370 which was meant to be removed after plebiscite in kashmir till 2019. India lost patience with pakistan which was also fuelled by thr cross border terrorism from pakistan. Further pakistan allowed Chinese construction under Belt and Road initiative of china inside the disputed territory of Kashmir occupied by pakistan. This defacto meant that pakistan considered Kashmir as its own part and not considering it as a disputed territory. Though on paper pakistan occupied Kashmir was shown as autonomous region. India protested against these developments between China and Pakistan on Kashmir. Pakistan rejected indian's position. As a reaction to this action India removed article 370 in 2019 India announced its domination on
it's so sad... this person is so proud he defied his country's stand (which is his PM/army or combined), because he personally felt it's right. This is not how it should and frankly... this tells why Pakistan is in this current state.
The whole description gives a lot of insight on how the political leadership acts in Pakistan. I see a lac of critical thinking and people management skills in them. In a matured Westminster from of democracy, politicians learn these thorough their life experience, through their failures and successes, through the initiatives they take to reach their positions. In Pakistan, the politicians lac these skills because they are often parachuted and do not go through that grinding process. And when they are unable to negotiate through the minefield that is politics and governance, the inter-personal relationships eventually break down and the military fills the vacuum.
شمشاد صاحب کو ایک کتاب لکھنی چاہیے یا تس ایسے وب سایٹ پر مہیا ہو اور خاص طور isi کے بارے میں کے یہ ہمیشہ سے اک بے کار ادارا ہے میں سابق فوجی ہوں جانتا ہوں کہ isi میں بلکل ان پڑھ اور نہ اہل لوگ ہوتے ہیں اور یہی حال عمومی طور پر ہماری فوج کا بھی ہے
Such a self obsessed beaurocrat , Kargil was the last nail in the goodwill for Pakistan in common Indian public . If you people still want to live in cuckoo's Land, and think you are the best and people around you are fool's, nobody can help you come out of mess you are creating for your self. Amen 🙏
آگاہ کرنا اور منظوری لینا دو الگ باتیں ہیں فیصلہ تو فوج نے کر لیا تھا اور وزیراعظم کو محض آگاہ کر دیا تھا اسے اجازت یا منظوری نہیں کہا جا سکتا فوج نے منظوری لینے کی زحمت ہی نہیں کی اگر وزیراعظم منع کر دیتا تو کیا مشرف باز آ جاتا
Why are they speaking lies? Jammu kashmir was acceded to India by Highness Maharaja harisingh so by default it became Indian state. I request young pak generation to study root cause
Unfortunately we have rare precious assets like Shamshad Ahmed Sb. It appears Shamshad sb's health is not good. May he have good health. Pakistan needs such patriot, honest and hard working persons.
Salam imtiaz ,sab ,or, shamshad,,,sab kargil ma .N L i,,regt,, hi 2 lac ,indian fujiyu k sath 2 nehna ladi,,indian k pas jahaz,bi the bafor gun bi the fir bi 2 mehna . Tak indian..ko qarib ana nahi diya giya ...pak army..zinda bad,,,
I guess like normal Pakistani this elite ex bureaucrats must be in London or Middle East and enjoying his soft earned money 😅😂. If he is in Pakistan then must be given some work by Army considering he was close to GHQ😅
Most of the Dictators who played a role in damaging the country were not Punjabis Musharaf was not a Punjabi and Ayub Khan was not a Punjabi and Yahya Khan was not a Punjabi and General Niazi was not a Punjabi, Those who killed Baynazeer were not Punjabi Akbar Khan who killed Liaqut Ali Khan was not Punjabi Those who killed kids in Peshawar school were not Punjabi Those who killed the Chachan lady in Balochistan were not Punjabi Those who keep on killing the innocent and peaceful Punjabi travellers are not Punjabi Those who surrendered to India were not Punjabi Those who killed over 80 thousand innocent people including women and children by suicide bombers were not Punjabi The fact is that Punjabis are paying a very high price for keeping the country intact Imagine that Punjabis are paying almost 75 percent of electricity for the entire country, the recovery of electricity bills in other than Punjabi land is less than 10 percent But people love to bark against Punjabis and Punjab Punjabi land and Sindhu land must rise again and take back their historical land from the invaders and asylum seekers
*Secularists have painted the islam as the most peaceful religion on the earth, unless......* .. _our exmuslim brothers and sisters exposed it, with documented references from islamic scriptures (ie kuran, hadis and fatwas) and proved it absolutely way round_*
_😮😮😮Islam humanity k liye compatible religion nahi h_ *Balki kuran ki 33/61 aor 66/9 ayat k mutabik to islam dusre firke k musalmano k liye bhi compatible nahi h.*
IMRAN KHAN 4 TIHAI DE NAAL ASI HUNR SACHA WALI JNB KRDA HI ALI ALI HAI FOR AZADI YA SHAHADATVYA ISTAQLAL EHI JHRI GAL HAI ASAL HAI HOR KOI ESI GAL NAHI.......
Shamshad is distorting history. If Benazir was brought to power by army on behest of US then howcome IJI was created by ISI under hamidgul who publicaly acknoledged it.
Kargil operation and 26/11 are the two primary reasons why India will never trust Pakistan.
India's 1948 Occupation of Kashmir is the reason that Kashmiris & Pakistan cant trust India.
1948, 1965, plus so many can be added to this!
@@snathan3198 Agree to a certain extent. But these two recent actions, plus Pulwama came immediately in response to peace overtures and were literally a stab in the back.
There was a time we trusted Hinduthwatians and the bunias bought our vast fertile lands for dimes and pennies.
It was us who always beseeched Quaid e Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah Rehmat Allah Alaih not to agree on anything less than absolute separation of the states and nations.
The Quaid came to our place 3 times for dinner and after the dinners and meetings my grandpa's baby brother asked him to divide the land as even brothers do better when they divide their ancestral lands everywhere in the world.
We could've stayed in India if it had remained a democratic state of the empire. We could also have remained with India if India were a socialist state but we couldn't, wouldn't and never shall be part of any state where a hegemonic majority would dictate us everything from lifestyle to religion and that's what Hinduthwatians did since 1820s.
And it was also our forefathers who took Delhi in 1761 alongwith Ahmed Shah Baacha, saved Mianwali from Kharak Singh in 1821 and took Multan from Molraj in 1848 alongwith Herbert Edwards. My grandpa took 120 fighting men to Burma when his British friends asked him to help them fight against Japan.
And this is the story of every true Pakistani. We are a war fighting people and shall fight till the end of time and our land shall remain our land till the world remains.
@@Battlemen1761 Present day Pakistan's Muslims were the hand maidens of British. Before that they were retainers of Afghans & Central Asian brigands. Fun part is that before 1946 Punjab was ruled by the Unity Part which was against partition. The demand for Pakistan came from present day UP & Bihar. A majority of those Muslims stayed back or landed up in East Bengal ( Bangladesh) and are still rotting there. As for Jinnah or even Liaqat- tgey got Pakistan as a gift from British with the the main purpose of looking after western interests. You people are expendable. Your apocalypse might not be too far. Watch out. Just hope that you people don't suffer as much as the minorities have suffered in Pakistan. If you get a situation similar to minorities in India - that will way above anything that you have enjoyed in India.
Such a fool had served as a foreign secretary of Pakistan.
And I was thinking I was the only one who had such feelings listening to Paki diplomats talk.
Pratibha can you please explain your remark/ observation.
Pakistani army never won a war so Pakistani 🇵🇰 Generals wear 🥇 medals for what ?😂
Fooling their own people......
😂😂😂
You're wrong.
They've won all wars in their textbooks 😂
The interview reveals that some civilian bureaucrats are more hard-line than generals. For instance, General Musharraf instructed his ambassador not to raise the Kashmir issue at the UN, yet the ambassador disregarded this directive. What was achieved by persistently raising the Kashmir issue at the UN? What did the country gain from this?
There was a time when Kashmir was offered to Pakistan on a platter, but Jinnah and Liaquat declined. This is documented in the autobiographies of Sardar Shaukat Hayat, Sardar Ibrahim, and Feroz Khan Noon. Chaudhri Muhammad Ali, who served as Prime Minister of Pakistan from 1955 to 1956, also wrote about it in his book "The Emergence of Pakistan."
Furthermore, A.G. Noorani, a preeminent authority on the Kashmir issue, has dropped a truth bomb on Pakistanis in his book, "The Kashmir Dispute," published by Oxford University Press, Karachi. On page 231, he mentions that on November 1, 1947, Mountbatten met Jinnah in Lahore and proposed a plebiscite in Kashmir, Junagadh, and Hyderabad, which Jinnah refused.
Am not very sure about the very veracity of these claims - neither Jinnah nor Liaqat are alive to testify
@@ImtiazGulOfficial Agree. Except for the claim made in the books mentioned there is no other evidence or reference in Indian archives. It is highly unlikely for Sardar Patel to make such an offer.
@@ImtiazGulOfficial Jinnah-Mountbatten talks occurred on 1 November 1947 in Lahore. These talks are well documented. Why don’t you read about it? Yes, Jinnah sahib is not alive but a record of all his speeches and writings is kept by the government of Pakistan. Please read Selected speeches and statements of the Quaid-i-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah (1911-34 and 1947-48) / collected & edited by M. Rafique Afzal.
@@R.kandaswamy Sourced from Sardar Patel's Correspondence 1945-1950 by Durga Das that was published in 1971, 1977 and 1981 and introduced as a formula. “The Governments of India and Pakistan agree that, where the ruler of a State does not belong to the community to which the majority of his subjects belong, and where the State has not acceded to that Dominion whose majority community is the same as the States. the question of whether the State finally accedes to one or the other Dominions should in all cases be decided by an impartial reference to the will of the people."
@@R.kandaswamy In a speech at the Bahauddin College in Junagadh, after its accession but before the accession of Hyderabad, Sardar Patel is quoted as:
“If Hyderabad does not see the writing on the wall, it goes the way Junagadh has gone. Pakistan attempted to set off Kashmir against Junagadh. When we raised the question of settlement in a democratic way, they (Pakistan) at once told us that they would consider it if we applied that policy to Kashmir. Our reply was that we would agree to Kashmir if they agreed to Hyderabad.”
Gandhi, Rajmohan. Patel: A Life, p. 438
Intellectually bankrupt Pakistan
Absolutely right
Pakistan started 4 wars with India , lost all of them and 1971 lost 1/3 of their country. Kargil war was back stabbing by Pakistan that exposed them to world
By the time Nawaj Sharif went to America, the key posts had already fallen to Indian Army ie Tolo- ling and Tiger hill apart from 45 other posts. Pakistanis were on the run and that was the reason that Musharraf was keener on a solution. All lies from Mujahidin to bravery of a timid always war losing Army and undeclared very heavy causalities of Pakistani soldiers stood exposed.
This guy either doesn't know the fact or lieing intentionally. India had to occupy Siachin after learning about the plan of Pakistan army to break the understanding and occupy Siachin heights. Indian army outsmarted Pakistan army by moving swiftly and occupy the heights before they could do it. Kargil was another foolish plan of Pakistan army which our forces won .
O hindu banye hamare alaqy wapas krdo , wapas to karogy nhi tm , chal dakna tm ane wale saal do saal me wese bhi aalmi jang start hone ko he pakistani army tara band bajane hi wali he ja hindustani tere pas waqt km he hindustan bachane ki feker kr , tom hindustanio ko kashmirio ki aaahhh lagi jo aag tmne kashmir me lagae he wo aag tere ghar tak pohanchne wali he modi ki hamqato ki barkat se . Jinaah , imran khan , pakistan ❤ zindabad
Cant believe this guy was a foreign minister. The knowledge and the level of thinking is so low. Not surprised the state of Pakistan is in today when you have people like these working in top level positions.
what an idiot. No class, intelligence or dignity. How can this guy be in any counties foreign office.
Pakistan cannot try to become spokesman of indian muslims and remain separate too. If you care so much for them why you left? Simple. Why leave them.behind? Take them
Bingo, they are double speaking and intellectually corrupt..
Result of Kargil, katora in hand of pakistan. Target: Bankruptcy.
As a Pakistani from POK, I am fed up of this country - no resources, no ata no bijli - IN please send the mukti bahini to save us.......Love from Muzafrabad, POK
Nice try, Mr. Rapey Indian.
TUNDI E BAAD E MUKHALIF SE NA GHABRA AY UQAB YE TO CHALTI HAI TUJHAY AUR OONCHA URANAY KE LIE.......
Hahahahahaha 😂😂😂
Welcome.
Hey Kingkong.. next time you impersonate enemy, please don’t describe yourself as from ‘POK’ … they would call themselves something else, as this noun is not a part of lingua franca there… otherwise, good word - keep it up.
On Kargil misadventure Mushraff and 3/4 other generals should have been court martial and sent to jail for at least 14 years. Same generals helped Mushraff on 12th October 1999 to bring into power.
Kya Bakwas kar Raha,Army tum Gulamo ki Malik hai,Tum kuch Maang Nahi Kar sakte.Jyada bologe ISI tumko Gayab kar degi.
🐈😺 de neck 🔔 kaun banega..
How can a country prosper whose military does self adventure, whose military is not answerable to Govt, whose Govt is not answerable to people, whose tax payers not answerable to Govt, elite does not believe on country, choose abroad destinations for future investment?
Dear Imtiaz saheb
Ex foreign secretary has effectively played his role,, now We are facing the music , until facedout from map
Both stay blessed and your party
This guy is taking credit for everything...😂
Quintessential Pakistani. 'Maine to Nobel prize winning discovery ki thi.. bas ye kambakht Raaaa ne danda kar diya'
Ek se ek namune bhare pade hai.Such an intellegent Foreign Office Secretary 😂😂
70 پرسنٹ بجٹ کھا کر ایک انچ زمین نہ حاصل کی صرف 10 کے قریب اپنی حکومت گراتے رہے
Read Lt General Shahid Aziz's book on Kargil please and you will be able catch this guy's white lies.
In Pakistan Everyone takes credit for nuclear explosion and simultaneously accuse others for not supporting him....😊
Fully agree. This idiot was appointed by NS as foreign secretary against merit. He used to mumble in front of NS and his father but now claims that he was the main man behind everything!😅😅😅
Excellent analysis it shows the incompetence of the generals shame on them
Army Pakistan ke Malik ho aaur tumhari haisiyat Gulamo Se Kam Nahi.
Imran Khan a brave, honest and upright leader. To solve all the issues amicably and progress bring Imran Khan back.
Apologize for Major Saurabh Kalia
ملک میں آگ لگی ہوئی تھی اور ہمارے وزیراعظم ہانگ کانگ کےسیون سٹار ہوٹل دیکھنے چلے گئے اور آرمی چیف نتھیا گلی میں تھے اور وزیر خارجہ کہیں اور تھے اور ہمارے فوجی جوان شہید ہو رہے تھے.
Right brother.
In 1947 it was PAKISTAN who attacked & invaded the. Independent sovereign KASHMIRI kingdom & not INDIA. At the behest of MAHARAJA of KASHMIR. INDIA intervened & stopped PAK Military in further occupying. However, the PAKISTANIS twist & turn the history. Even the UNO states PAKISTAN as the aggressor & not INDIA.
The intrusion took place during winter of 1998 and he is talking about March 99.
It is astonishing how a group of grown up and literate people together could make such utterly stupid decisions that would further sink this godforsaken country and its hapless awam into a quagmire of ignorance, suffering, exploitation, penury and global shame.
These people are so shameless ,due to their stupid decisions Pakistan is on the verge of economic collapse and on bankruptcy .
Generals says that they have won all wars against India . This man is claiming that like everyone in Pakistan , is architect of nuclear blasts in Pakistan .
Objective of Kargil war was not Kashmir but Pakistan Army Coup to take power from PM Nawaz Sharif and he fell for it. Pakistan army has the tendency to think that democratic govt is a weak institution and cannot negotiate with India from a point of strength, so Pak army wants to negotiate with India from the point of strength. But India has clearly said it will never negotiate with any military dictator.. negotiation will only happen between democratic govt. That's why Musharafs 4 point agenda failed. India supports democracy in Pakistan, but unfortunately Pakistan never has democracy all its govt have been titular govt run by the establishment (army).
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_Islam humanity k liye compatible religion nahi h_
*Balki kuran ki 33/61 aor 66/9 ayat k mutabik to islam dusre firke k musalmano k liye bhi compatible nahi h*
Yaar ye inka retd foreign secretary hai. Isse Pakistan ki education system ka pta chalta h. Ye log humari barabri agle 50 saal tak nhi kr payenge kam se kam.
True
If he had been in India , maximum he would have been LDC . He is lucky to be in Pakistan that he rose to country foreign secretary .
😂inka basic education India may hua tha. Ab pata chala India ka education system kaisay hay.
@@attaqazi1663 chalo aapne apni foreign secretary ka standard to maana chahe India ke basic education system ke upar taana marke hi.🤣
That's progress. Apke diplomats sirf bongiyan maarte hain unfortunately.
Never ever 😂
@imtiazgulofficial @shakilchaudhary
Sirs,
Discussions, not Agreements mind you between say Jinnah, Gandhi, Nehru, Liaquat, Patel etc during the early days of Independence has no meaning and therefore cannot be referenced
Reason: Realpolitik drives Pakistan, straight out Hardnosed Practicality if you listen to the Foreign Secretary.
Pakistan is willing to discard the Shimla Agreement, which saved its 90K troops abandoned in Bangladesh as apparent in the discussion.
I think the GOI sees any agreement with Pakistan as "Not worth the paper" written on due to this "Realpolitik" attitude of Pakistan displayed again & again.
And the people of India also support their govt in their disdain. We will wait for Pakistan to sue for Peace then give our hand forward this time.
Agreeing with you except that this is not realpolitik. Realpolitik would tell Pakistan to open trade with India and clamp down on inflation. Realpolitik would tell Pakistan to get over it's debt addiction and call CPEC for what it is, a noose around it's neck. Realpolitik would tell Pakistan that Afghanistan and Taliban don't agree with them on Durand line and that is a strategic threat and not strategic depth and we know how they have dealt with any of those issues. Pakistan is deluded
The Army is an institution which is always under fire for all the doings...
U mean wrong doings...
کارگل آپریشن شروع کرنے سے پہلے اجازت نہیں کی گئی۔ آپریشن شروع کرنے کے بعد وزیر اعظم کو مطلع کیا گیا۔
He has so many inside information. Please do another longer video with him. The world should know how the policies were being made in the corridors of power. The entire world will learn to form more nuanced policy response on Pakistan. How the institutions behave in Pakistan is something the world still does not understand properly. I may not agree with his point of view , but I certainly appreciate his insights.
Imtiaz Gul Sb.,
Thank you for inviting Shamshad Sb. Always enjoy learning the history of Pakistan from him.
History of Pakistan? HaHa Ha.
You mean His Story.
The guy is a useless windbag. Please take whatever he says with a spoonful of salt.
History of Pakistan is formation of a xenophobic state based on hate which as destined is fast approaching its demise
End of the day, why? What benefit did the country or people achieve? Just hot air
Salam Imtiaz Gul sab wish you good luck
Imtiaz Gul Sir
Pakistan unlike India has no constitutional relationship with Kashmir.
Therefore the democratic institutions of Pakistan cannot stake a claim. So what is Pakistan left with ?
The Pakistani army has never won a war against India having lost all four wars till date. In 1971 when Pakistani General Niazi along with his + 90,000 strong contingent of Pakistani troops surrendered to General Arora of India, it was the second largest surrender in history of warfare, only after the mass surrender of the 3rd Reich which ended 2nd world war ! This is the sordid history of the Pakistani army which the Pakistanis seem to gloat over. It this same Pakistani army which has now shamelessly turned itself into a real estate mafia, buying and selling property with tax payers money, reaping huge profits meant to line the deep pockets of their army generals , all of whom, post retirement, settle down abroad, living a luxurious life at the expense of the common Pakistani man. Amazing !
People of such mental level and calibre reach to become foreign secretary of Pakistan . I am shocked and not surprised to see the pit in which they have reached today
Good we are able to record this talk for future reference
Jo sena apne kaum ko dhoka diya woh doosre desh se kya dosti nibhayega.
Article 370 was a temporary Article of the constitution of India which was to be removed after the plebiscite would have taken place in kashmir as per UN Resolution.
Problem was that Pakistan never complied with the first conditions of implementation of UN resolution on Kashmir which would have led to plebiscite.
On this Failure by pakistan, India had no choice but to continue with the temporary Article -370 which was meant to be removed after plebiscite in kashmir till 2019.
India lost patience with pakistan which was also fuelled by thr cross border terrorism from pakistan.
Further pakistan allowed Chinese construction under Belt and Road initiative of china inside the disputed territory of Kashmir occupied by pakistan. This defacto meant that pakistan considered Kashmir as its own part and not considering it as a disputed territory.
Though on paper pakistan occupied Kashmir was shown as autonomous region.
India protested against these developments between China and Pakistan on Kashmir.
Pakistan rejected indian's position.
As a reaction to this action
India removed article 370 in 2019
India announced its domination on
22:15 , prime example of how not to transgress your professional boundaries , failed by the gentleman spectacularly ...
دل روتا ہے۔ کبھی کچھ ٹھیک نہیں ہوا۔
It seems he is another coward, selfish and timid bureaucrat who was only interested in enjoying a Govt job😂
صدارتی نظام
ھی اسلامی نظام سے
قریب تر ھے ۔
ڈاکٹر اسرار احمد
خان نےتو جو ووٹ لیاھے اسمیں صدارتی نظام آسکتاھے اور آئےگا بھی ضرور ، دعا کریں انشااللہ
it's so sad... this person is so proud he defied his country's stand (which is his PM/army or combined), because he personally felt it's right. This is not how it should and frankly... this tells why Pakistan is in this current state.
Court-Martial for all those who involved in Kargil Fiasco.
Mr foreign secretary giving wrong statement what about pok and gilgit have you any answer
He always criticizes civilian leaders.
Shamshad sb Sy pochna yh tha k kia atomic dhamakon ka button Nawaz sharif ny dabayah ya nh
To foreign secretary Pakistan
Na siachin tumhara tha ,na Kashmir,jldi se jldi pok Khali kro nhi to wo bhi le liya jayega beizzat kr k😂
Nice interview first hand reporting
What about the Instrument of Accession signed by the Maharaja of Kashmir? What is this gentleman talking about?
Would love to hear about CURRENT AGMFFAIRS AND CRISIS TOO FROM YOUR ESTEEMED GUEST
The whole description gives a lot of insight on how the political leadership acts in Pakistan. I see a lac of critical thinking and people management skills in them. In a matured Westminster from of democracy, politicians learn these thorough their life experience, through their failures and successes, through the initiatives they take to reach their positions. In Pakistan, the politicians lac these skills because they are often parachuted and do not go through that grinding process. And when they are unable to negotiate through the minefield that is politics and governance, the inter-personal relationships eventually break down and the military fills the vacuum.
Election Kade Hare Nahi
Jung kade Jitte Nahi
PakistanArmy 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
That KULFI was of state money which you enjoyed.
Kulfi Lagda kadi Italy di nahi khai honi Eis n 😂
شمشاد صاحب کو ایک کتاب لکھنی چاہیے یا تس ایسے وب سایٹ پر مہیا ہو اور خاص طور isi کے بارے میں کے یہ ہمیشہ سے اک بے کار ادارا ہے میں سابق فوجی ہوں جانتا ہوں کہ isi میں بلکل ان پڑھ اور نہ اہل لوگ ہوتے ہیں اور یہی حال عمومی طور پر ہماری فوج کا بھی ہے
آپ یوتھیے ہو
Such a self obsessed beaurocrat , Kargil was the last nail in the goodwill for Pakistan in common Indian public . If you people still want to live in cuckoo's Land, and think you are the best and people around you are fool's, nobody can help you come out of mess you are creating for your self. Amen 🙏
Keep ruminating your past sins…
In the near future, you will end up eating what you agreed to eat to do Gazwa -e-Hind.
Eating: GRASS.
Every penny waisted by Sharif's should be recovered
Good to know how they all stuffed it up.
بھت زبردست ماشااللہ
What is Awesome dear... loss of Pakistan in all respects, you mean...
Its utterly shameful of Pakistan to do this bloodshed. The hatred and attitude like this had brought them to where they are now.
Baynazeer used to call Musharaf, "MQM" General
Was Benazir not a Muhajir, her grandfather was from the Indian state of Gujarat
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Good discussion and report from "the horse's mouth"
In this case, " from the donkey's mouth..
آگاہ کرنا اور منظوری لینا دو الگ باتیں ہیں فیصلہ تو فوج نے کر لیا تھا اور وزیراعظم کو محض آگاہ کر دیا تھا اسے اجازت یا منظوری نہیں کہا جا سکتا فوج نے منظوری لینے کی زحمت ہی نہیں کی اگر وزیراعظم منع کر دیتا تو کیا مشرف باز آ جاتا
general Musharraf was highy calbrated general in pakistan army his name is still a nightmare for indian. but many pakistan do not know.
😂😂😂😂 nightmare, seriously. Dude how delusional can you be, kya fuuk Raha hai aaj kal 😂😂😂😂
Zabardast Imtiaz sahib.
Why are they speaking lies? Jammu kashmir was acceded to India by Highness Maharaja harisingh so by default it became Indian state.
I request young pak generation to study root cause
Jo sudhar jaye wo Pakistan nahi😂😂😂
Pakistan regulars army fead bodies also Pakistan never accepted. just imagine this, tgeir you own army soldiers were buried in india.
Unfortunately we have rare precious assets like Shamshad Ahmed Sb. It appears Shamshad sb's health is not good. May he have good health. Pakistan needs such patriot, honest and hard working persons.
One can clearly feel a tilt in his statements at diffrent times.
Mulk toe le liya lakin demag kahan se lao gey.
Bhai woh Toh ha hi nahi 😂
Zia ul Haq bada nalayak tha,,,,, saare area (sicachin or kargil) India ko de diye....🤣🤣
Where is this joker settled now ? UK or US ?
Ek aur 10th fail.
Salam imtiaz ,sab ,or, shamshad,,,sab kargil ma .N L i,,regt,, hi 2 lac ,indian fujiyu k sath 2 nehna ladi,,indian k pas jahaz,bi the bafor gun bi the fir bi 2 mehna . Tak indian..ko qarib ana nahi diya giya ...pak army..zinda bad,,,
Tum bhi 2 lac le aate roka kisne tha ,😅ki Dr k bhag gye sb ,hmara gate khula tha choro ki trh ghus gye. hmne Bofors k 40 kg k gole khila Dale 😅😂
I guess like normal Pakistani this elite ex bureaucrats must be in London or Middle East and enjoying his soft earned money 😅😂. If he is in Pakistan then must be given some work by Army considering he was close to GHQ😅
Imtiaz Bhai,, Shukar Mano Kargil Ke Wakat (PM Wajpai) Thye Kahin Modi Hota Toh Feer Kya Hee Hota.......
Joker.
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Most of the Dictators who played a role in damaging the country were not Punjabis
Musharaf was not a Punjabi and Ayub Khan was not a Punjabi and Yahya Khan was not a Punjabi and General Niazi was not a Punjabi,
Those who killed Baynazeer were not Punjabi
Akbar Khan who killed Liaqut Ali Khan was not Punjabi
Those who killed kids in Peshawar school were not Punjabi
Those who killed the Chachan lady in Balochistan were not Punjabi
Those who keep on killing the innocent and peaceful Punjabi travellers are not Punjabi
Those who surrendered to India were not Punjabi
Those who killed over 80 thousand innocent people including women and children by suicide bombers were not Punjabi
The fact is that Punjabis are paying a very high price for keeping the country intact
Imagine that Punjabis are paying almost 75 percent of electricity for the entire country, the recovery of electricity bills in other than Punjabi land is less than 10 percent
But people love to bark against Punjabis and Punjab
Punjabi land and Sindhu land must rise again and take back their historical land from the invaders and asylum seekers
But you people have made the country philosophically bankrupt. Now face the music.
Koe pakistane coment nahe dekhraha hai😂😂😂😂😂
Kargil me islamic pakistan buri tarah se pit gaya even though ki pakistani fauj ko higher altitude pe position ka advantage hone ke bawjood...lol
You guys can forget Kashmir and if you do this shit again maybe you will discuss about losing lahore
*Secularists have painted the islam as the most peaceful religion on the earth, unless......*
.. _our exmuslim brothers and sisters exposed it, with documented references from islamic scriptures (ie kuran, hadis and fatwas) and proved it absolutely way round_*
_😮😮😮Islam humanity k liye compatible religion nahi h_
*Balki kuran ki 33/61 aor 66/9 ayat k mutabik to islam dusre firke k musalmano k liye bhi compatible nahi h.*
Half truth
IMRAN KHAN 4 TIHAI DE NAAL ASI HUNR SACHA WALI JNB KRDA HI ALI ALI HAI FOR AZADI YA SHAHADATVYA ISTAQLAL EHI JHRI GAL HAI ASAL HAI HOR KOI ESI GAL NAHI.......
Akk sadi or Dushmani,atal ki badi koshish nakam kar d vesa leader abb dobra nahi aney wala
This guy is anti Nawaz so conclusion is he is trying to defame Ex PM😅
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Shamshad is distorting history.
If Benazir was brought to power by army on behest of US then howcome IJI was created by ISI under hamidgul who publicaly acknoledged it.
Yahi to Pakistan ka bedagarg Karne wale hai
Ha ha ha India bada ganda bachcha hain tum gande bachcha mat bano… Clinton said this! This guy is as disillusioned as Musharraf and his generals were.
Total bakwas lies self boasting
Pakisthan deplomat hamesha boot bholtha hai, datta naretive
Bhook ke mare uncle bil bila rahen hai. Kiya kuch nahin but credit sabne Lena Hai. Kya Zahil log Hai.
How now you are sending skilled beggers to world