I use Red Wizards as villians so much my players have vocally suggested we go to Thay proper, so here I am, looking up details for my players to go. I know its been 3 years, but thanks for summarizing it very well in this video!
@@ArantyrDarkhand well technically forgotten realms is from 67ish, but didn't make it to its own official campaign until 87 after TSR bought it from Ed greenwood.
I like how D&D occasionally crosses into our real world. I didn't know the early slaves were taken from Earth. It adds a bit of magic to our "ordinary" world.
Quantum Realities , alternate time lines. Thay show up on " a " Earth in the early bronze age, around 2,700 years ago on our time line. After nearly 3,000 years of "that "Thay Forgotten Realms time line. Thay is still a late medieval tec and social development. Where in our own world's time line. We have smart phones and air craft. 20 years ago, my game shop ran a Planescape campaign where Baator devils had smart phone that ran off of wizard spells.
That's funny because when I'm playing PlanetSide 2 I'm always telling the TR THEY'RE THEIR THERE, TAUNTINGLY, using the incorrect forms, so I guess it'll be There their thay
The series by Richard Lee Byers covers the assassinations and deaths of every one of the names said in this video - fantastically!! Along the way the reader is exposed to every conceivable type of undead - and some that are just wildly unique. And it’s also super cool to see an examination of a master of every individual school of magic. What threat would a master of divination magic pose, you ask yourself late at night? Well…
Aahhhh I love these so much. I watch and rewatch these old vids over and over and they always hold up to the last time I saw them. I can not get enough.
I would seriously consider using the modern languages as the staple languages of the Thay residence . I would love to see the look on a player's face as soon as a NPC trying to sell them items is trying to speak to them using all the languages he knows. Using Syrian, Lebanese , or any of the other languages sourced from the lore.
AJ your content is widely known for the excellent quality and depth, but this video on Thay made me imagine an ocean of new possibilities for a new set of campaigns and even a book. I can't thank you enough! Now it's time to get the hands dirty 😎
Always found the region, and state of Thay so very interesting. Even the Red wizards on a individual basis was so fun to research. Though while doing alot of adventures both within the region of Thay an against it, I had thought it would be interesting to adapt a style of magic from a anime called "Record of Lodoss wars", which is more spirit based yet not really summoning as it is more about making deals/bonds/pacts with different spirits that the priest-mage calls on for their spell, as a opposition style of magic to Thay's own more traditional magic styles.
This video is a very helpful tool for building ancient histories and dangling superpowers and the majesty of an ancient magic civilization in front of players. You really make it feel alive!
This is one of the better videos yet, imo! Thanks a lot for this tour of the city! I especially like the parts of how the community works and behaves in the different parts, as well as the different leader structures. Makes for awesome lore creation and inspiration for me to prepare for my own players. Keep up the awesome work!
I first got a look at Thay through Mark Hulms’ Dead Reckoning mini-campaign and it was a place that was absolutely fascinating to me. It has such a unique society and setting that it demands attention and different thinking then what you normally see. Thanks a lot for giving such an in depth insight into more of the country’s history and culture!
I feel like I just took A Hollywood star tour and my camera is jammed full of awesomeness.Please smash that like button for the tour guide.And next times you haters should listen and keep your last hand inside the vehicle at all times =D
AJ another great video your interaction with your fans and the love you put into these videos can only make it grow whenever I'm in a live d&d chat I suggest your channel to people and I believe I'm not the only one keep up the good work
Ik I’m late to it but I’m throwing an NPC from thay into my campaign and this vid was crazy informational, thanks AJ!! Gonna need to take notes but fantastic vid
Definitely. Larloch's Crypt is a long lasting and stable undead city, probably the only one in the realms. It's an extremely interesting location and it's King is a huge part of that.
@AJ Pickett; this is still my favorite video of yours. Not that there’s anything wrong with your other videos. I just like the feeling of mutual fascination this one has. Keep up the good work, my friend!
Working on a character for BG3: a Thayan Half-Elf Necromancer with the Noble background named Darseris. This will be tremendously helpful in formulating her backstory and why she's afflicted with a withering curse prior to her abduction. I imagine she's been using the Grim Harvest perk from being a Necromancer to stave off the curse and extend her life, but she's seeking a more lasting cure in the powers of undeath. I imagine Lichdom is very much in her future, just to escape her withering while gaining plenty of power in the process.
Thanks for this! Was Fantastic. I've been working on my first home brew campaign and had an idea of an evil necromancer who ruled undead armies and scourged the land. The campaign takes place millenia later and has to do with his potential resurrection. Little did I know most of my ideas mirrored the story of Szass Tam and Thay! I'm now working my way through the Haunted Lands trilogy for more ideas. Loving it.
In one of the games I ran I used a similar theme to one of my kingdoms however the taint that was upon it was almost like a magical leprosy and the more that use magic the more it rotted them
I absolutely love this video, and I've watched it no less than four times now. As a fairly new player to the Forgotten Realms, my group hasn't had a lot of a interactions with this very interesting country. Thay is so unique and different feeling than any other human settlement I've had the pleasure to learn the history of, and I'm so excited to make my own Red Wizard to play in Tomb of Annihilation.
Another fantastic vid! I thoroughly enjoy all your work. Very informative and the art shown is always top-notch!! I see a lot of requests for other topics and can say that any of the aforementioned would be great. I especially liked the videos on the demon lords and would love to see some on the archdevils. I know you have covered Asmodeus , one of my biggest interests, and I would love to see any and all videos made on the parts of the nine hells that haven't been covered. I also would like to see a video on Baphomet. Keep up the great work and thank you for all the hard work you put in to these videos
Hey AJ, Can you please reference your information on the most recent Red Wizards lore? Running Rise of Tiamat and just wanted to grab the latest iteration of them for the game.
I posted this video in February of 2018 Jesse, my suggestion is go to the Forgotten Realms wiki, scroll down to the reference list and check out those sources. They never steer me... well, they rarely steer me wrong.
@@AJPickett Worth mentioning that the adventurers league has a whole arc of adventures that have updates to current Thay lore, and feature the Red Wizards prominently. Lots of new stuff that’s considered official but doesn’t show up on the wiki. Look up DRW (Dreams of the Red Wizards) on DM’s Guild.
I am currently playing a Half-Orc Paladin in service to Kossuth, thanks to you I am able to give his backstory more flavour as I now know he's from the Tharch of Lapendrar and that part of his prejudice against the undead is linked to his father having been killed, if indirectly, by a vampire. I've got him coming from Nethentir, which the DM and I have agreed is a declined trading centre in comparison to Nethjet due to the difficulties of overland trade to the north. Now I think his secondary long-term goal is to become the Tharchian of Praidor!
AJ Pickett There is a distinct feel that Thay is like the ottoman empire in its location and trade, I think it's general portrayal as an evil empire of doom has prevented people from using it as a very rich setting for a campaign.
Always good to work with your DM both on things that deal with your character in it's creation, but also in the history an motives of your character too. It gives the DM a good measure of ideas that they can embellish, and personalize a adventure even more to the players, and also create some side-adventures that could be linked to specific characters. I had a group in which thru side missions, and info they discover over the course of the adventure that the group had some quite interesting links. like that the Half-elf/orc character was the grand-daughter of the npc that had actually killed the Male Elven mage's father, which caused some quite interesting dynamics an tensions in the group. I would also say that your character's hatred of undead could also stem from the fact that many tribes of Orcs have a very brutal form of druid/shamanistic belief systems. So the twisting of the natural states of life, and death into what they would see as the corrupted state of undeath would naturally give the character a much more intense dislike of undead. I have also always liked using the idea of a brutal sense of honor, and code of conduct with Orc, which to the outside world gives them a look of being very evil an brutal, but once you look at their history an the lands they occupy it makes sense.
I want a setting where the Netherese never fell 😀 Maybe I should write it. Karsus launched his Avatar spell and was imprisoned on the material plane because of that, the goddess of magic died and was reborn but that didn't cause the whole civilization and flying cities to fall down straight away, both because in my view the gods aren't the prime principle (goddess of magic doesn't imply essence of magic, just the patron of mages, so to speak) and because, being gods, they'd seen that coming long before it happened and put wards in place against straight up catastrophe. Finally, the enemies of the Netherese are happy with their reduced power and with the fact that the lower cities are all but gone (or that wouldn't really explain why they never resurfaced to bug others). So now the Netherese are basically a civilization of the clouds, their main preoccupation is the Shade Enclave returning with nostalgia for their former glory and (although they'd stress other points,) what really bothers even the more nostalgic is they they know the Shade Enclave is subsevient to the goddess of death and they're loathe to see their civilization reduced to the service of a god.
AJ Pickett And gods are multidimensional, so other dimensions mistal may not have perished, only the one in the same dimension as karsus. Also they could have outright banned the worship of all evil deities, but basically tolerate it and in fact, behind the anti-evil rhetoric, they only prosecute the suspected followers of shar, to keep the shade enclave scrying at bay
Love all your content. Great stuff. I think it would be cool to get videos about the history of towns like phlan and other cities. Keep up the good work brother.
amazing video mate. the info about the specific regions in Thay was very good. if I were to say something that could be improved upon is (in my opinion) that it would be very nice to get a few key words or sentences to describe at a basic level how things are in the other less fleshed out/important/used areas. and if there isn't enough info then some speculation with your educated guesses as to how things are there would be much appreciated
I could make a video of equal length just on what I think could be found on and within the Thaymount. Or the horrors of the slaves who live in Delhumide, with a nice long list of the mewling abominations that lurch, crawl and undulate around in those gods forsaken ruins. Half the battle of making this sort of video is deciding on what to include and what to exclude, such as, I never talked about the shining silver armor the Thayan army is reknowned for, or mentioned Deep Imaskar, and as someone else noted, I made no mention of Warforged or talked much about the Undead in Thay.I do appreciate the suggestion, it is something I consider a lot as I make these vids :)
That would be awesome. I love how much there is to dig in here, though I am one of those people that always crave to know more and love hours long videos that can stimulate me with information and ideas so I've been watching and listening to your videos for a while now :) absolutely love it!
I recall the video where I talked about Flail Snails for 26 minutes and the reaction from one commenter... let me paste it here... "Half an hour on a FUCKING PUN".lol, I love the outrage.
indeed quite amusing and it was a good video too so personally I think it could have been 4 minutes longer just so it reached propper half hourage :D I would have more to say about comments but I mostly only pay attention to the videos
I remember how after watching your video on liches my opinion of them changed drastically from: oh this sounds like a pretty good deal to: well shit they have to be pretty fucking desperate to do this to their souls
I would really like to learn more about Chult. I'm running a West Marches game and I borrow heavily from you. Also, thank you for the idea of murder sheep, my players send their regards.
@@AJPickett that would be fantastic! Also, I found one of your videos on Chult right after this, awesome, love the input. I'm doing more research on epidemiology.
Thay is my Favorite Land and as of right now In Adventures League Thay has attacked Port Nyanzaru in Chult in the AL DDEP season 7 second Epic so things will be interesting indeed for Thay😈💯
Ive been running a mix of modules with a lot of red wizards. Ghosts of dragonspear, scourage of the sword coast, dead in thay etc. I liked the suggestions on the language. Ive been trying to implement language and writing scripts in my game. I can't recall the name at the moment but the last language used in ancient egypt is what i used for Thayan Mulan language i plan to play samples of when the players hear it hopefully to the point where they can tell which is thayan, untherian etc
Always love your videos. Have you ever thought about going over the Elder Evils stories? I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of those campaign ideas.
I don't even play d&d infact I don't like to play tabletop games I can never see the fun in it but what I do like is lore which d&d has in spades I can never get enough of it I always what's more.
Thanks for the Info in Thay, my adventures rarely ever go there since my players can't seem to pull themselves away from the sword coast... Since you've done Thay, perhaps a vid on Shadowdale? or if you want to do groups, did you do a vid on the Harpers yet? Explaining the Mage system in Krynn could be interesting, the whole test thing and such (Krynn is more my brother's area than my own). And what ever happened to Ravenloft? o.O; sucked into the Abyss or something?
Hey AJ excellent info! Is it fair to say that Thay was Lawful Evil previously to the Spellplague, but now, due to the magical trade, they are closer to Neutral, or am i off base? I havent kept up on any of the novels. Thanks again!
No Thay still falls pretty snuggly into the category of Lawful Evil, the systematic subjugation of tens of thousands of slaves, the creation and use of an army of the dead, the bureaucracy and hierarchy is all very familiar.. as the saying goes "It's not the nine hells, but it is certainly hell adjacent"
OK thanks! I remembered that the Necromancers had the numbers advantage in Thay due to being the type of magic that extended life/unlife while other schools weren't as prone to take the plunge into lichdom. It would appear then that Zass Tam would LIKE everyone to view Thay economically neutral, but their evil practices have continued.
Zass Tam himself is listed as Neutral Evil I believe, but the rest of the country is Lawful Evil. So its like the Empire in Star Wars in some ways. NE ruler with LE kingdom.
They seems like a place where an adventurer can play out his entire career without leaving the area, kind of like the city of Lankhmar. Thayian: What part of Thay you from? Outsider: I'm not from Thay. I'm actually a world-traveling gypsy like my family. Thayian: Oh, so outside of Thay. You travel around the whole outer borderlands? Outsider: There is more to the world than what you can see from Thay's borders. Thayian: I know, at least a few miles or so. Outsider: No, Thousands of miles, the world is huge. Thayian: It IS? Do the Red Wizards know about this?
@@krispalermo8133 Well, now that you want there, maybe a PG-13 love scene that borders on a rated R one... that actress was drop-dead gorgeous and we all pictured her far more than in R-rated ways. I was thinking that of her and I don't even think puberty started for me at the time yet.
@@That80sGuy1972 I forgot to add Star Wars Dark Horse comic art of Asajj Ventress, she is another hot looking bald woman. With 3.5e rules a 10th-level wizard/2nd-level fighter/3rd-level rogue, CR: 15, BAB:+9 She could create her own magic items of Rapier 1d6+3 crit:18-20/x2 (14-20/x2) upgraded with Scarber of Keen Edges and Improved Critical( rapier). Other than what her str is to Power Attack, her crit rolls will do 2d6+6dmg on nearly each hit if rolled high enough, and with her Bluff skill back with Tumbling to move her into a flanking position to do sneak attack dmg of +2d6. So on a sweet hit she does 4d6+6dmg. To trip it out use True Strike and Power Attack to land 1d6+12 each round, crit rolls become 2d6+24dmg per hit. Even if you factor in the penalty of two weapon fighting on melee atk rolls to Power Attacks, she is still tapping 50dmg to her target. " cough, cough," Due to the way drow society is built around military conquest and mention how the adults take bets on how long it takes for their grade school children to cord strangle kobolts & goblins. All drow in my gaming shop has a base of rogue3/fighter2 before they take on wizard or cleric classes. And since 3.5e wizard supplement book, .. " Tome & Blood," states anyone that can learn the Knowledge(arcane) and Spellcraft can learn wizard spells if they have the base Int:10 or higher. So even the run of the mill low level Lolth priestess of rogue3/fighter2/wizard3 .. then three or more levels of cleric. Why, cause why not, wizard magic is just a hobby to play around with. We just need to come up with high level CR opponents for our human or dwarf PCs to gain Xp to defeat in game play. My shop also just traded gp value of magic item creation Feat: Craft Wonderous Item by paying it off with Xp, hence they level cap themselves by the number of self-made magic items they have. Where they sacrifice their life force/experience points locked into magic items to Lolth. We also ran Epic level 20th-level or higher campaigns so we did not regard drow being over powered or too high in class levels. Menzoberranzan dance clubs it is consider bad taste to go dancing in armor or carrying any weapons at all. Their frenzy rave dances are know to devolve into rowdy brawls, so dog packing happens. So if you are mob by six drow starting damage is 1d2+2d6 per drow = 1d2+2d6x6 or 6d2+12d6 per round of beating. So in a way, a 10th-level half-orc barbarian could get beat down with in two or three rounds by .. teenagers. As a teenager and young adult I could never really fetishize drow women from what I read about them. I had a sister and many teenager girls around growing up outside of city limits. They get bored and jump you just the way the boys did, main different the guys didn't paint your face up with makeup the way the girls did. Along with having a few really bad spider bites that needed medical treatment, spider venom in D&D is under rated .. spider venom is more like acid damage. Chaotic evil cleric, that get bored, and uses acid to torture people .. uh, .. no thanks. I would rather deal with nighthags and Baator. Menzoberranzan have a couple yearly festivals that last for a full month where it is .. safe .. to travel and trade with them without being capture by them for mine labor or scarifying. So the plot is to go in and tick off as many priestesses you can within social limits then run for the surface as you can after wards.
Since the slave trade so essential to their overall economy I could imagine them using Wizards or clerics to search for Magical diseases like lycanthropy and vampirism since they wouldn't want it to spread through their slaves and any other diseases
@@jonathancampbell5231 they'd still look for it, to cull outliers and probable carriers from the general population of slaves. Don't want your pens going wild on the full moon. Nor lose stock to an unrecognized lycanthrope
I use Red Wizards as villians so much my players have vocally suggested we go to Thay proper, so here I am, looking up details for my players to go. I know its been 3 years, but thanks for summarizing it very well in this video!
@@grahamward7 I concur
Ah yes. The”magic” of slave traders
You mentioned the seven sisters in this video. I would love to see a video on them, or even a series. Keep up the great work AJ, loving it.
Correction:Warcraft and their orcs are a ripoff of Forgotten Realms lore and orcs.
They're like a joint rip off of Warhammer Orcs combined with DnD Orcs
Warhammer beagn in 83 forgoten realmes 87, warcraft 94
@@DCdabest Warcraft was originally a Warhammer game before the deal fell through. Just like Starcraft was originally supposed to be 40K.
@@dubuyajay9964
Indeed. Hence warcraft orcs being green.
Admitedly i think i like Starcraft exactly the way it was
@@ArantyrDarkhand well technically forgotten realms is from 67ish, but didn't make it to its own official campaign until 87 after TSR bought it from Ed greenwood.
I like how D&D occasionally crosses into our real world. I didn't know the early slaves were taken from Earth. It adds a bit of magic to our "ordinary" world.
Quantum Realities , alternate time lines.
Thay show up on " a " Earth in the early bronze age, around 2,700 years ago on our time line. After nearly 3,000 years of "that "Thay Forgotten Realms time line. Thay is still a late medieval tec and social development.
Where in our own world's time line. We have smart phones and air craft.
20 years ago, my game shop ran a Planescape campaign where Baator devils had smart phone that ran off of wizard spells.
@Harvey Dustin Quantum theory
@Harvey Dustin lazy map making is more likely.
@@krispalermo8133 o was gonna object to smartphones 20 years ago and then I realized that was 2000.
Now that's an isikai.
The day I became a slave.
Who do Thay think Thay are? :)
Your betters... :7
That's funny because when I'm playing PlanetSide 2 I'm always telling the TR THEY'RE THEIR THERE, TAUNTINGLY, using the incorrect forms, so I guess it'll be
There their thay
Thay got another think comin’
that was funny!
Booooooo
I slow you down to .75x so it’s more chill. I’d love a series about Thay and about the well known reds like Szass! Live for the lore!
Okay, I'm definitely setting my upcoming campaign here, sounds way too interesting to just not be used.
You, are a gifted speaker AJ, thanks for you. These lands of Toril were not manifested enough. You breath life into the lore. Bringing attention too.
I'm lisimimg to your videos again I work 7am to 530pm its one of the best ways to past the time doing construction lol
You just covered my favorite bit of lore in Faerun and I can not thank you enough for it, keep up the great work.
The series by Richard Lee Byers covers the assassinations and deaths of every one of the names said in this video - fantastically!! Along the way the reader is exposed to every conceivable type of undead - and some that are just wildly unique. And it’s also super cool to see an examination of a master of every individual school of magic. What threat would a master of divination magic pose, you ask yourself late at night? Well…
Szass Tam: It would have worked if it weren't for you meddling kids and your hound archon!
this was hands down one of the best videos i've seen for d&d, little lone thay
Aahhhh I love these so much. I watch and rewatch these old vids over and over and they always hold up to the last time I saw them. I can not get enough.
I would seriously consider using the modern languages as the staple languages of the Thay residence . I would love to see the look on a player's face as soon as a NPC trying to sell them items is trying to speak to them using all the languages he knows. Using Syrian, Lebanese , or any of the other languages sourced from the lore.
AJ your content is widely known for the excellent quality and depth, but this video on Thay made me imagine an ocean of new possibilities for a new set of campaigns and even a book. I can't thank you enough! Now it's time to get the hands dirty 😎
Always found the region, and state of Thay so very interesting. Even the Red wizards on a individual basis was so fun to research. Though while doing alot of adventures both within the region of Thay an against it, I had thought it would be interesting to adapt a style of magic from a anime called "Record of Lodoss wars", which is more spirit based yet not really summoning as it is more about making deals/bonds/pacts with different spirits that the priest-mage calls on for their spell, as a opposition style of magic to Thay's own more traditional magic styles.
Elric Engquist You know that Lodoss was originally a homebrew DnD Campaign in Japan, right?
This is brilliant! Playing a Red Wizard right NOW, and devouring all the lore I can get.
What edition?
this is such a cool area!!! Thank you for bringing it to life
My pleasure :)
This video is a very helpful tool for building ancient histories and dangling superpowers and the majesty of an ancient magic civilization in front of players. You really make it feel alive!
F*ck Yes Thay! I read the Harpers books as a kid and loved every bit of them. Thay was a cool location.
So... Thayian Foriegn policy in general: LEAVE US ALONE OR BUY SOMETHING\ONE!!!
So pre-imperial Japan?
@@dylanreeck1589 More like Switzerland but with added slavery.
this is hands down the most info about thay I've ever seen. i have loved thay since I've read the haunted lands trilogy
Thanks for mentioning the power of voice acting. I have it my games and my players love it.
This is one of the better videos yet, imo! Thanks a lot for this tour of the city! I especially like the parts of how the community works and behaves in the different parts, as well as the different leader structures. Makes for awesome lore creation and inspiration for me to prepare for my own players. Keep up the awesome work!
I liked this video so much i watched it twice. Now I need a video on Rashaaman ;D
same.
I first got a look at Thay through Mark Hulms’ Dead Reckoning mini-campaign and it was a place that was absolutely fascinating to me. It has such a unique society and setting that it demands attention and different thinking then what you normally see. Thanks a lot for giving such an in depth insight into more of the country’s history and culture!
I feel like I just took A Hollywood star tour and my camera is jammed full of awesomeness.Please smash that like button for the tour guide.And next times you haters should listen and keep your last hand inside the vehicle at all times =D
AJ another great video your interaction with your fans and the love you put into these videos can only make it grow whenever I'm in a live d&d chat I suggest your channel to people and I believe I'm not the only one keep up the good work
Thank you Michael :)
Ik I’m late to it but I’m throwing an NPC from thay into my campaign and this vid was crazy informational, thanks AJ!! Gonna need to take notes but fantastic vid
You should do a video on Larloch. I feel like a lot of people don't regonize how much this guy could screw entire nations.
Jose Leon yes yes yes i second this request
Definitely. Larloch's Crypt is a long lasting and stable undead city, probably the only one in the realms. It's an extremely interesting location and it's King is a huge part of that.
Awesome. So the spirit of Netheril and Imaskar persists in Thay...
And Halruaa
Thank you AJ, for yet another amazing, informative video!!! :)
Bless this patron!
My fave faction, thank you for your work and passion
@AJ Pickett; this is still my favorite video of yours. Not that there’s anything wrong with your other videos. I just like the feeling of mutual fascination this one has. Keep up the good work, my friend!
"My name is Edwin Odesseirion but you simians may refer to me as sir."
Turns out Edwin was fairly mild by Thayan standards.
Working on a character for BG3: a Thayan Half-Elf Necromancer with the Noble background named Darseris. This will be tremendously helpful in formulating her backstory and why she's afflicted with a withering curse prior to her abduction. I imagine she's been using the Grim Harvest perk from being a Necromancer to stave off the curse and extend her life, but she's seeking a more lasting cure in the powers of undeath. I imagine Lichdom is very much in her future, just to escape her withering while gaining plenty of power in the process.
Thanks for this! Was Fantastic. I've been working on my first home brew campaign and had an idea of an evil necromancer who ruled undead armies and scourged the land. The campaign takes place millenia later and has to do with his potential resurrection. Little did I know most of my ideas mirrored the story of Szass Tam and Thay! I'm now working my way through the Haunted Lands trilogy for more ideas. Loving it.
so amazed with the artwork shown in this vid
In one of the games I ran I used a similar theme to one of my kingdoms however the taint that was upon it was almost like a magical leprosy and the more that use magic the more it rotted them
Love this video, sharing it as I took a quiz and got thay as my nation in dnd
I absolutely love this video, and I've watched it no less than four times now. As a fairly new player to the Forgotten Realms, my group hasn't had a lot of a interactions with this very interesting country. Thay is so unique and different feeling than any other human settlement I've had the pleasure to learn the history of, and I'm so excited to make my own Red Wizard to play in Tomb of Annihilation.
Another fantastic vid! I thoroughly enjoy all your work. Very informative and the art shown is always top-notch!! I see a lot of requests for other topics and can say that any of the aforementioned would be great. I especially liked the videos on the demon lords and would love to see some on the archdevils. I know you have covered Asmodeus , one of my biggest interests, and I would love to see any and all videos made on the parts of the nine hells that haven't been covered. I also would like to see a video on Baphomet. Keep up the great work and thank you for all the hard work you put in to these videos
Ooooh my favorit region and classes. RIP my 2nd character, a Thayan Knight. Good times.
This is gonna be useful for my campaign! Thanks!
Ah magic. Ever overpowered. Ever awesome. MAGIC... What could possibly go wrong?
I loved it all AJ. Thank you so much
Hey AJ, Can you please reference your information on the most recent Red Wizards lore? Running Rise of Tiamat and just wanted to grab the latest iteration of them for the game.
I posted this video in February of 2018 Jesse, my suggestion is go to the Forgotten Realms wiki, scroll down to the reference list and check out those sources. They never steer me... well, they rarely steer me wrong.
@@AJPickett Worth mentioning that the adventurers league has a whole arc of adventures that have updates to current Thay lore, and feature the Red Wizards prominently. Lots of new stuff that’s considered official but doesn’t show up on the wiki. Look up DRW (Dreams of the Red Wizards) on DM’s Guild.
That's pretty cool that you used a picture of the original form of Nar'Zül, the Lich King from Warcraft
The history i never knew amazing video
Been waiting for this one, now I am ready to send my PCs to Thay!
So I’m going too be running a spalljamer campaign soon and I’m thanking that the thay and probably some other group are all on one planet.
Such a great video I’m working on sending my PCs here so it’s good for world building
I’m now adding this to my home brew campaign. Thanks, I now need to work on my acting some more. :)
I am currently playing a Half-Orc Paladin in service to Kossuth, thanks to you I am able to give his backstory more flavour as I now know he's from the Tharch of Lapendrar and that part of his prejudice against the undead is linked to his father having been killed, if indirectly, by a vampire. I've got him coming from Nethentir, which the DM and I have agreed is a declined trading centre in comparison to Nethjet due to the difficulties of overland trade to the north. Now I think his secondary long-term goal is to become the Tharchian of Praidor!
Jeremy Clarke its a possibility for sure, half orcs are relatively common around Thay.
AJ Pickett There is a distinct feel that Thay is like the ottoman empire in its location and trade, I think it's general portrayal as an evil empire of doom has prevented people from using it as a very rich setting for a campaign.
Always good to work with your DM both on things that deal with your character in it's creation, but also in the history an motives of your character too. It gives the DM a good measure of ideas that they can embellish, and personalize a adventure even more to the players, and also create some side-adventures that could be linked to specific characters. I had a group in which thru side missions, and info they discover over the course of the adventure that the group had some quite interesting links. like that the Half-elf/orc character was the grand-daughter of the npc that had actually killed the Male Elven mage's father, which caused some quite interesting dynamics an tensions in the group.
I would also say that your character's hatred of undead could also stem from the fact that many tribes of Orcs have a very brutal form of druid/shamanistic belief systems. So the twisting of the natural states of life, and death into what they would see as the corrupted state of undeath would naturally give the character a much more intense dislike of undead. I have also always liked using the idea of a brutal sense of honor, and code of conduct with Orc, which to the outside world gives them a look of being very evil an brutal, but once you look at their history an the lands they occupy it makes sense.
The best so far AJ!!
Thanks, I was happy with this one.
My favorite land in Toril besides Cormyr and Waterdeep.
Love watching your videos, you put in a lot of work and it shows. If I can suggest a video, I'd like to see one on factions. Thanks.
The Harpers really need a video.
AJ Pickett Yes!
AJ Pickett yesssssss
Very interesting.... I really need to get into this setting more. Nice video it was really informative yup yup.
and lizards starting #Metoo movements....this is getting better 24:10 CC
I don't get it. :-/
I want a setting where the Netherese never fell 😀 Maybe I should write it. Karsus launched his Avatar spell and was imprisoned on the material plane because of that, the goddess of magic died and was reborn but that didn't cause the whole civilization and flying cities to fall down straight away, both because in my view the gods aren't the prime principle (goddess of magic doesn't imply essence of magic, just the patron of mages, so to speak) and because, being gods, they'd seen that coming long before it happened and put wards in place against straight up catastrophe. Finally, the enemies of the Netherese are happy with their reduced power and with the fact that the lower cities are all but gone (or that wouldn't really explain why they never resurfaced to bug others). So now the Netherese are basically a civilization of the clouds, their main preoccupation is the Shade Enclave returning with nostalgia for their former glory and (although they'd stress other points,) what really bothers even the more nostalgic is they they know the Shade Enclave is subsevient to the goddess of death and they're loathe to see their civilization reduced to the service of a god.
Mr L have you considered Deep Imaskar?
AJ Pickett you mean the Netherese would have magically hidden themselves from the world?
Absolutely, they could create demi-planes and planar gateways, there may be a large number of them which were off-world at the time.
AJ Pickett And gods are multidimensional, so other dimensions mistal may not have perished, only the one in the same dimension as karsus.
Also they could have outright banned the worship of all evil deities, but basically tolerate it and in fact, behind the anti-evil rhetoric, they only prosecute the suspected followers of shar, to keep the shade enclave scrying at bay
Thats just perfection. Nice work mate
Love all your content. Great stuff. I think it would be cool to get videos about the history of towns like phlan and other cities. Keep up the good work brother.
amazing video mate. the info about the specific regions in Thay was very good.
if I were to say something that could be improved upon is (in my opinion) that it would be very nice to get a few key words or sentences to describe at a basic level how things are in the other less fleshed out/important/used areas. and if there isn't enough info then some speculation with your educated guesses as to how things are there would be much appreciated
I could make a video of equal length just on what I think could be found on and within the Thaymount. Or the horrors of the slaves who live in Delhumide, with a nice long list of the mewling abominations that lurch, crawl and undulate around in those gods forsaken ruins. Half the battle of making this sort of video is deciding on what to include and what to exclude, such as, I never talked about the shining silver armor the Thayan army is reknowned for, or mentioned Deep Imaskar, and as someone else noted, I made no mention of Warforged or talked much about the Undead in Thay.I do appreciate the suggestion, it is something I consider a lot as I make these vids :)
That would be awesome. I love how much there is to dig in here, though I am one of those people that always crave to know more and love hours long videos that can stimulate me with information and ideas so I've been watching and listening to your videos for a while now :) absolutely love it!
I recall the video where I talked about Flail Snails for 26 minutes and the reaction from one commenter... let me paste it here... "Half an hour on a FUCKING PUN".lol, I love the outrage.
indeed quite amusing and it was a good video too so personally I think it could have been 4 minutes longer just so it reached propper half hourage :D I would have more to say about comments but I mostly only pay attention to the videos
I remember how after watching your video on liches my opinion of them changed drastically from: oh this sounds like a pretty good deal to: well shit they have to be pretty fucking desperate to do this to their souls
AJ: I kind of like Thay! Does that make me Lawful Evil?
Love it. Brilliant & fascinating video.
I play a runaway slave Warlock so this is very useful thank you
This reminds me of Hazlik Rex who was originally a Red Wizard. Any chance of a Ravenloft series?
My players after finally having enough of Szass Tam's bullshit have decided to take the fight to Thay itself. Glad I found this
I would really like to learn more about Chult. I'm running a West Marches game and I borrow heavily from you. Also, thank you for the idea of murder sheep, my players send their regards.
*bows* my pleasure. Chult! I'll see what I can do. Nightmare jungles in general perhaps.
@@AJPickett that would be fantastic! Also, I found one of your videos on Chult right after this, awesome, love the input. I'm doing more research on epidemiology.
Thay is my Favorite Land and as of right now In Adventures League Thay has attacked Port Nyanzaru in Chult in the AL DDEP season 7 second Epic so things will be interesting indeed for Thay😈💯
Ive been running a mix of modules with a lot of red wizards. Ghosts of dragonspear, scourage of the sword coast, dead in thay etc. I liked the suggestions on the language. Ive been trying to implement language and writing scripts in my game. I can't recall the name at the moment but the last language used in ancient egypt is what i used for Thayan Mulan language i plan to play samples of when the players hear it hopefully to the point where they can tell which is thayan, untherian etc
Still my favorite lore video...
Does anyone think that Thay would be a fun candidate for becoming a realm in the demiplane of dread?
I doubt they're far off from somebody going completely overboard and making that happen.
Always love your videos. Have you ever thought about going over the Elder Evils stories? I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of those campaign ideas.
Jeremy Moore yes, that's why I made the vid on Kyuss
10:54 Gorgeous sorceress lady.
Wonderful video, Pickett. Keep up the good work! I subscribed to support you, bye!
I don't even play d&d infact I don't like to play tabletop games I can never see the fun in it but what I do like is lore which d&d has in spades I can never get enough of it I always what's more.
Thanks for the Info in Thay, my adventures rarely ever go there since my players can't seem to pull themselves away from the sword coast... Since you've done Thay, perhaps a vid on Shadowdale? or if you want to do groups, did you do a vid on the Harpers yet? Explaining the Mage system in Krynn could be interesting, the whole test thing and such (Krynn is more my brother's area than my own). And what ever happened to Ravenloft? o.O; sucked into the Abyss or something?
Ha! I see you snuck in Edwin! The future grumpy bar wench. That was awesome!
Great vid, love back stories, real or fictional.
amazing as always!!
With all the slavery going on in Thay, I am pretty sure this is where all of the Isekai protagonists get sent when summoned to the Forgotten Realms.
I wish you had gone into detail on the Thayan Knights. Maybe in a new video?
So...the Red Wizards are like Slytherin? Pureblood wizards/witches?
Brother Mutant73 pretty much, yeah.
Brother Mutant73 You need to remember that TSE was originally a Forgotten Realms series. I don't think the similarities are coincidental.
@@NodDisciple1 What is TSE?
Hey AJ excellent info!
Is it fair to say that Thay was Lawful Evil previously to the Spellplague, but now, due to the magical trade, they are closer to Neutral, or am i off base? I havent kept up on any of the novels. Thanks again!
No Thay still falls pretty snuggly into the category of Lawful Evil, the systematic subjugation of tens of thousands of slaves, the creation and use of an army of the dead, the bureaucracy and hierarchy is all very familiar.. as the saying goes "It's not the nine hells, but it is certainly hell adjacent"
OK thanks! I remembered that the Necromancers had the numbers advantage in Thay due to being the type of magic that extended life/unlife while other schools weren't as prone to take the plunge into lichdom.
It would appear then that Zass Tam would LIKE everyone to view Thay economically neutral, but their evil practices have continued.
Zass Tam himself is listed as Neutral Evil I believe, but the rest of the country is Lawful Evil.
So its like the Empire in Star Wars in some ways. NE ruler with LE kingdom.
They seems like a place where an adventurer can play out his entire career without leaving the area, kind of like the city of Lankhmar.
Thayian: What part of Thay you from?
Outsider: I'm not from Thay. I'm actually a world-traveling gypsy like my family.
Thayian: Oh, so outside of Thay. You travel around the whole outer borderlands?
Outsider: There is more to the world than what you can see from Thay's borders.
Thayian: I know, at least a few miles or so.
Outsider: No, Thousands of miles, the world is huge.
Thayian: It IS? Do the Red Wizards know about this?
Star Trek the Motion Picture movie, ..
Thay have shaved headed tattoo women.
What more could you ask for ?
@@krispalermo8133 Well, now that you want there, maybe a PG-13 love scene that borders on a rated R one... that actress was drop-dead gorgeous and we all pictured her far more than in R-rated ways. I was thinking that of her and I don't even think puberty started for me at the time yet.
@@That80sGuy1972 I forgot to add Star Wars Dark Horse comic art of Asajj Ventress, she is another hot looking bald woman.
With 3.5e rules a 10th-level wizard/2nd-level fighter/3rd-level rogue, CR: 15, BAB:+9
She could create her own magic items of Rapier 1d6+3 crit:18-20/x2 (14-20/x2) upgraded with Scarber of Keen Edges and Improved Critical( rapier).
Other than what her str is to Power Attack, her crit rolls will do 2d6+6dmg on nearly each hit if rolled high enough, and with her Bluff skill back with Tumbling to move her into a flanking position to do sneak attack dmg of +2d6. So on a sweet hit she does 4d6+6dmg.
To trip it out use True Strike and Power Attack to land 1d6+12 each round, crit rolls become 2d6+24dmg per hit. Even if you factor in the penalty of two weapon fighting on melee atk rolls to Power Attacks, she is still tapping 50dmg to her target.
" cough, cough," Due to the way drow society is built around military conquest and mention how the adults take bets on how long it takes for their grade school children to cord strangle kobolts & goblins. All drow in my gaming shop has a base of rogue3/fighter2 before they take on wizard or cleric classes. And since 3.5e wizard supplement book, ..
" Tome & Blood," states anyone that can learn the Knowledge(arcane) and Spellcraft can learn wizard spells if they have the base Int:10 or higher. So even the run of the mill low level Lolth priestess of rogue3/fighter2/wizard3 .. then three or more levels of cleric. Why, cause why not, wizard magic is just a hobby to play around with.
We just need to come up with high level CR opponents for our human or dwarf PCs to gain Xp to defeat in game play.
My shop also just traded gp value of magic item creation Feat: Craft Wonderous Item by paying it off with Xp, hence they level cap themselves by the number of self-made magic items they have. Where they sacrifice their life force/experience points locked into magic items to Lolth. We also ran Epic level 20th-level or higher campaigns so we did not regard drow being over powered or too high in class levels.
Menzoberranzan dance clubs it is consider bad taste to go dancing in armor or carrying any weapons at all. Their frenzy rave dances are know to devolve into rowdy brawls, so dog packing happens. So if you are mob by six drow starting damage is 1d2+2d6 per drow = 1d2+2d6x6 or 6d2+12d6 per round of beating. So in a way, a 10th-level half-orc barbarian could get beat down with in two or three rounds by .. teenagers.
As a teenager and young adult I could never really fetishize drow women from what I read about them. I had a sister and many teenager girls around growing up outside of city limits. They get bored and jump you just the way the boys did, main different the guys didn't paint your face up with makeup the way the girls did. Along with having a few really bad spider bites that needed medical treatment, spider venom in D&D is under rated .. spider venom is more like acid damage. Chaotic evil cleric, that get bored, and uses acid to torture people .. uh, .. no thanks. I would rather deal with nighthags and Baator.
Menzoberranzan have a couple yearly festivals that last for a full month where it is .. safe .. to travel and trade with them without being capture by them for mine labor or scarifying. So the plot is to go in and tick off as many priestesses you can within social limits then run for the surface as you can after wards.
Love your videos but is there a chance that you would do a video about Stormreach?
There is always a chance. The location videos are a lot more sporadic than my monster ecologies.
Wow never thought Thay was so complex
video on 10 towns from the north please
So much of interesting FR lore has been shredded or retconned. It’s a real pity.
New Dungeons & Dragons movie looks like involves the Red Wizards
Thay and Luskan are the only societies I don't alter when I play forgotten realms
Since the slave trade so essential to their overall economy I could imagine them using Wizards or clerics to search for Magical diseases like lycanthropy and vampirism since they wouldn't want it to spread through their slaves and any other diseases
That is a quite a brilliant insight, thank you, I will certainly incorporate that into any games I run there :)
They actually employ Vampires and Lyncanthropes in their armies, so not necessarily.
@@jonathancampbell5231 they'd still look for it, to cull outliers and probable carriers from the general population of slaves. Don't want your pens going wild on the full moon. Nor lose stock to an unrecognized lycanthrope
waterdeep and the surrounding area would make a cool vid.
Awesome thank you AJ
Awesome video and was wondering who is stronger based on magic power zastan or samaster in his lich state
kiara sanders Samaster, by a hefty margin.
Szass Tam is both powerful and, because of his popularity, highly overrated. He's not as powerful as his fans would like to think. ;)
Thanks for the vid sir.👍🏼👍🏼
Im gonna watch a throwback.....fck it
Hey I'd appreciate a video on griffon
Awesome!