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Goron Mines, a Creative Powerhouse - Dungeon Design in Zelda (Twilight Princess HD)
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- The Goron Mines are a fantastic showcase of creativity, introducing brilliant new ideas, constantly expanding on those concepts all while keeping everything streamlined and understandable.
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0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Before The Dungeon
7:38 - Dungeon Themes & Progression
25:54 - The Dungeon Boss
28:22 - Conclusion
#Zelda #Dungeon #TwilightPrincess
I absolutely love the redesign and world building the Gorons got in Twilight Princess. The extra tribal tattoos, the sumo culture, and the advanced mines. I always thought since the Gorons lived in mountains they should, like fantasy dwarves, be great miners. Not just for food in rocks, but for iron, jewels, and dodongo pelts. The Gorons even have shops in Kakariko and Hyrule castle town so they are good business men too.
Impossible not to love the Gorons, ever since Darunia became Link’s sworn brother! I love these chubby rock munchers!
Goron Mines is my favourite fire dungeon in the entire Zelda series. I find the "red-tinted cave with lava pits everywhere" aesthetic so monotone and boring, so I love all the industrial scaffolding and magnetic walls and that there's several rooms filled with water instead of lava. That also makes this mine feel more like an actual in-universe functional place (similar to Snowpeak Ruins or the Sandship) instead of just another "temple where someone worshipped something".
Also has my favourite version of the Iron Boots of any Zelda game because they essentially function as Power Bracelets, too.
I was a senior in high school when twilight princess released. When the iron boots were used to walk on the walls it blew my mind and I shouted "we're in the future!"
14:20 maybe these holes spewing flames are diverting poisonous gasses. in mines breaking a lot of rocks, heating them up or finding ancient lava tubes all. can release noxious gases, most of them flammable. burning it off might be a way to keep the miners safe from asphixyation when they're deep in the mines.
Best UA-cam channel ever
Where??
Pitifully underrated!! We gotta grow this channel!
Whoa burger dude, your channel is getting noticed by @GameOverJesse that's huge! Seriously, it takes a lot to get the big dogs to come out of your basement and notice you. Congrats!
Seriously tho, I think it's a damn shame these videos aren't getting 100k+ views. They are so well put-together and enjoyable, and any self-respecting Zelda fan who comes across this series can't help but binge the whole series and then wait impatiently for the next episode to drop.
"Must-watch, 10/10"
This video gave me a flashback to the first time I played this game and it made me think of when I used to work at subway, I have a Zelda tattoo on my left arm and one day during the rush this girl got super excited and showed her goron tattoo and asked me what my favorite group was, mine will always be guerdos, they are basically middle eastern amazon badasses, how could you not love them. She said no and we argued about it the whole time I made her sandwich. Everytime after that we had the same argument. It was so much fun. All the stuff you have to do before the dungeon and the dungeon itself made me understand why she thought they were so cool, I get it now, guerdos are still my favorite though. I hope she’s doing well.
Never noticed that the soundtrack was actually the Goron's Lullaby~so cool
Best use of iron boots ever
One of my favourite boss fights in the game, because of, as you say, spectacle
I disagree with you though about the inaccessible chests in temples...I think it offers a great exploration challenge for true completionists
In terms of pitch it is not really the Goron's Lullabye, it's just similar because it has the same "shape" if you like. Shame that wasn't mentioned. Tbh it sounds more like the Song of Soaring to me.
Still, having the same shape to the music here may still be intentional by the composer - I wouldn't be surprised, because sometimes leitmotifs are not copied 1 for 1. I know if the Goron's Lullabye was copied note for note it wouldn't sound as creepy as the mines theme does, so if that was the inspiration I can see why they changed the pitch of some notes.
I love TP I want The HD Version On Switch so badly
the pipes shooting out fire could be some kind of goron cleaning system
like working in the mine would get gorons all dirty
then on their way out they walk through the fire jets to burn off the soot and dirt and dust
Excellent video once again, sir.
I always loved the Goron Mines.
The steamy lava aesthetic makes me wonder what a Steampunk Zelda game would look like.
I'm thinking it would be badass.
How do you not get more views? Randomly found your dungeon design playlist - If I didnt check, Id assumed you are a 300k sub channel. I have not seen anyone do a similiarly thorough analysis of every dungeon. I also like the approach of giving a breakdown of pre dungeon story events and dungeon progression, while also critiquing the overall design. Thank you for your videos, I will binge watch the rest of this playlist in no time!
youtube (google's) corrupted algorithms, often written by biased people, have a tendency to push some things over others, often from certain content creators over others as well. Good content isn't guaranteed to get any views at all.
I have a theory that the Iron Boots are secretly the entire point of the sumo contest, at least as it comes to letting humans into the Goron Mines. Imagine if a human could beat a Goron through his sheer strength. He still wouldn't be able to traverse the mines, as dependant as that is on using magnetic surfaces. But if you have the Iron Boots AND the skill to use them to beat a Goron in a sumo contest, you stand a chance of getting to Darbus and helping him out.
The Goron Mines had pieces of a key, while the Forest Temple had mon-keys.
You may notice that one of those rooms has what appears to be dead Dodongos stretched out on the wall.
The first time through the open-air room, I like to shoot the archers with the Slingshot. Makes it a little more useful, and it's pretty satisfying to work out where they need to be in relation to your Slingshot when you release the button, and knock them out right from where you stand when you enter the room.
If you're quick, you don't even need the first or third magnetic patches on that rotating bridge.
Oh yeah, Dangoro isn't a being of dark magic or a possessed good guy like the other midbosses. He's just some guard doing his duty who doesn't realize you're authorized to go through until after you've beaten him. (Also he shares his name with the Japanese name for the Pokemon Roggenrola.)
I love the reference to the Hero’s Shade in this dungeon.
Link don't need no triforce of power, he makes Gains Brother!
Wait, less than 3k views? That is criminal, the quality of these videos is absolutely top notch!
I love the map sound effects, make it feel super polished
Great series! I loved the Goron mines, especially the music which was perfect.
Lord of the Rings: Crew goes through mines and fights a Balrog.
Twilight Princess: Link goes through mines and fights a Balrog-esque.
Amazing content as always, this dungeon is super fun!! Loved your analysis
Keep up with these videos, they're excellent
Loving the intro music for this series. So eerie.
Thanks!! Was trying to make something to fit the game’s eerie atmosphere :D
Omg the “oocoo” asides are quickly becoming my favorite thing. Can’t wait for the city in the sky 😂 I always thought the magnetic iron boots were really clever, but I wished there’d been a way to move a little faster since you’re forced into wearing them so often. Oh well, wouldn’t make a lot of sense I guess since they weigh you down (although the also don’t weigh you down when not equipped somehow 🤷♀️)
Always loved the midboss fight here, very fun and reminiscent of Mario 64 just like you referenced! Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that lol
I appreciate your reactions to Ooccoo. They resonate with my soul, rofl.
Never doubt a country boy's strength.
Well, that link is a farmer XD
Doesn't top the fire temple in OoT but I agree it is an underrated dungeon. I wish we could have seen a goron city in this game though.
Agree with you on the “chores” part in every video you mention them. Some thing are crucial to the overall story of the game, while other things are just boring, tedious, and really shouldn’t be a forced upon feature in the story.
I don't know. I have always liked the lead up to the dungeons portion of most Zelda games. It acquaints the player with the region and npc's that it's in and builds the anticipation.
Games like Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask were the best at doing this I feel.
I mean dungeons are key part of Zelda games but I feel it’s not the main reason I in joy them, I think it’s a combination of the dungeons, the story, and other stuff outside the dungeon like doing side quest talking to npcs and exploring the over world
I agree but I think that the player should have more freedom with stuff like side quests. Doing things in a different order each time can feel like a newer experience.
When I first fought Fyrus I didn’t realize you had to pull on the chains so I just kept shooting his weak point for 5 minutes straight
the goron rooms are sumo rings
i actually wonder if they had the idea to have you sumo wrestle for each key piece?
hey look at it this way
if link didnt show up to take care of the bulblins outside of ordon village
they definitely would have taken that sword
Still the most clever way to use the iron boots love this dungeon
In link’s defense he is a farm boy in this game. I’m sure them goats get pretty damn big.
huge missed opportunity not reusing the sumo wrestling section for a minigame.
I recently replayed this dungeon and completely missed the compass, lol!
some interesting notes i dont think you brought up
you can kill dodongos with a single shot from the bow by shooting it down their gullets
absolutely metal
and the music for fyrus has bits of the king dodongo / volvagia theme in it
I think the cinematic narrative before The Goron Mines was actually masterfully done for only the 2nd dungeon in the game. The backtracking to get the 'iron boots' was very well done too (you can warp back at this point too I think which is definitely an improvement than the backtracking during the 'The Child Timeline' in Ocarina of Time) and the interaction between The Ordon Community and the main character made for more complex and fleshed-out character interactions than the memory space would allow for the N64's Ocarina of Time. It set very high expectations for dungeons to come in this game and for the series as a whole. It comes across very strongly to me as a player that the development team seemed to have put a great deal of effort in this and certainly using the iconic 'horse pose' after the battle to rescue Colin.
The Goron Mines themselves were a really cool dungeon overall but I don't think it tops the iconic 'Fire Temple' from Ocarina of Time and its brief encounter with Darunia before he faced Volvagia (and it's very much assumed he lost his life as he is not seen after you enter the boss room but a tag fight would have been epic!). This dungeon seemed more technologically advanced than its predecessor (The Fire Temple) and the layout was less linear in its design and much more complex. The use of magnetism with the iron boots was a brilliant use of the iron boots rather than just acting as an item which added a great amount of weight in areas of deep water. The fragmentation of the 'boss key' was another cool twist as well as the interaction with different Goron Elders rather than simply getting 'the boss key' to enter 'the boss room.' The mini-boss fight was unexpectedly epic and actually quite funny in how you had to beat him. The main dungeon-boss fight was cinematically epic but unexpectedly anti-climatic in his obvious weakness so not much effort was required at all and a bit disappointing that he was even easier to beat than the 1st dungeon boss. At this point, the dungeons themselves and the areas outside of the dungeon are really setting up perhaps one of the best games in the series!
Ah you’re back! Thanks for the wonderful comment. Definitely agree!
Only minor correction is that you can’t warp freely yet, but they do soften the blow a bit there by reuniting you with Epona right before that backtrack to Ordon.
Thanks again!
@@CaptBurgerson Yeah, I haven't died lol just busier these days. Yeah, I remember when Epona appears now it's been ages since I've played that game and it's one of the best! I'm hoping ''Tears of The Kingdom" will continue with the quality dungeons.
Sowthern! Lets gooo!!!!
one out of ten viewer liked this video, none of the 1074 disliked. This is the type of score I want to see for an as well relised content
I MISSED IT AGAIN 😂😭 I will do my best to be here tomorrow!!
TETRA I even posted it in the discord for yooouuu 😭😭
Sorry T. I’ll remind you when the next one is up for early access 😊😊
@@CaptBurgerson lmao it has been a busy week, and I was out of town last weekend 😝👍🏼
I know T. No worries at all :)
That Link is on steroids
My only problem with TP is how easy the bosses are I wish they were harder and took longer to defeat.
The Goron Mines were designed to mine creativity and awesomeness lol
Me and my girlfriend just finished the forest temple, so I’m watching this video to find out what to do next!
Also what’s the music used in the intro?
Nice work on the forest temple.
The song is an original piece I wrote just for these videos actually. Here’s a link to the full song:
ua-cam.com/video/Bvm5CYmefNM/v-deo.htmlsi=YgkAZy6_N4Jwkim0
Thanks!!
@@CaptBurgersonthat’s cool! And you’re welcome! Love you videos, I’m a recent subscriber
Your beating a dead horse at this point
Curious, what do you mean by this?
Your intro sounds like some silent hill music
Can't tell if this is a good thing or not lol
TP Link is build different
I wish octoroks were in the game.
that was probably the biggest sin about this game in terms of enemy variety especially being the only core entry to this day to not feature them.
@@scorpionsapprentice3248 Octoroks should be in *every* Zelda game, along with poes, tektites, stalfos and darknuts!
@@LordMalice6d9 twilight princess is the only entry where they were inexplicably absent. botw did not have stalfos however apparently four swords had stalchildren instead of stalfos but should be the latter as they behave pretty much the same like all the other 2d incarnations since alttp. poes were introduced in alttp so having a ghost enemy in general is a staple along with an armored enemy such as darknut or iron knuckle. tektites were absent in tww and botw.
@@scorpionsapprentice3248 I like the tektite's look in TP. A perfect 1:1 transition of Ocarina's now with better graphics. I dig the water variants too as they get a new coat of paint.
@@nillynush4899 yeah tektites look good in TP. i noticed they kind of resemble the minish cap design. they also have the jointed legs unlike in oot where they look stiff.
You know I never realized the only survivors were those three at kakariko. Always thought it was strange how gorons hated hylians all though I probably just didn’t pay attention. Thag well when I was a kid I probably was like “woahhh he’s rolling me off the cliff” 🤣 idk I forgot what lil me was thinking about lol. I wonder if Impaz was from that same village too? Gorons are brutal here at first for allowing it lol but they’re bros forever!
Haha “…a monster sTOLE it? It was MEEeeee…” I can’t haha that was hilarious
Also what the hell are bullblins? Always wondered cuz we always had Bokoblins here too. Are they the different breed of Moblins that we sometime see In other 2D games?
Link is still pretty strong yes. If that were me attempting to catch and throw them I’d fly and scream like child link ok I’ll stop now 🤣🤣
You know this goron mine is really cool. It’s industrial and technology advanced imo the gorons really evolved in this game. Dengoro used to scare me he’s probably the most scariest Goron in the series haha and I haven’t even realized those beamos were Goron made. Aesthetically this dungeon is top tier imo we need more TP flare in our Zelda games :(
Also here’s something I haven’t seen anyone say. WHAT if…Oocoo are premature Rito 🤔 like pre-evolved
i find this to be one of the weakest dungeons in TP because of the iron boots ceiling being very tedious.
that's my favourite part lol different strokes
@@professoreff3483 while there were cool moments in TP, i never felt that impressed with the dungeons. maybe because i felt burned out from their longevity, overwhelmingly large rooms while going through the motions. arbiters grounds though i really enjoyed and while it has nice room variety and theming, its navigation though feels kind of straightforward.
As an emulator... there's actually a cheat that fixes that, super fast move on ceiling. No issues now.
@@nillynush4899 that is not by natural means. even when fixing the iron boots being slow i recall this dungeon is kind of meh save for a few explorable rooms.