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  • @normadesmond6017
    @normadesmond6017 3 місяці тому +52

    oh my.... how magnificent Seles was. She was a true killer.

    • @alexcooper3007
      @alexcooper3007 4 дні тому

      Да и эту убийцу чуть не убили...!))

  • @PhaniRanjan-cw3pb
    @PhaniRanjan-cw3pb 2 місяці тому +49

    Monica Seles holds the record for most Grand Slam singles titles won as a teenager in the Open Era.

    • @minavamp2811
      @minavamp2811 20 хвилин тому

      seles could have gotten the record for the most grand slam single titles won as a teenager in all era, had she not been stabbed, because in 1993 she could have won french and us open, and possibly wimbledon, to surpass maureen connolly record of 9 grand slam single titles won as a teenager.

  • @jjsggg1465
    @jjsggg1465 6 місяців тому +49

    One of Monica's biggest strength Pre Stabbing was her mental toughness, fearlessness and extreme confidence! On crucial moments of a match. while others gets tight and nervous....Seles goes for it even more.. hits the ball harder and closer to the lines ! Such a tremendous match player! This was all gone when she came back in 1995! She was never the same player after that horrific crime!

    • @andrews6341
      @andrews6341 6 місяців тому +5

      Seles hit the ball a LOT harder on her comeback. She just did not have movement. Back in the early 90s she was a great retriever and rarely made errors. Graf and Capriati hit the ball much harder.

    • @jjsggg1465
      @jjsggg1465 6 місяців тому +11

      ​@@andrews6341 Everyone can clearly see that Seles was not even half the player she once was before she was viciously attacked by a Steffi Graf fan! For her to make a comeback in 1995 and reached the finals just shows how an amaziing player Seles was!

    • @_friedie
      @_friedie 6 місяців тому +2

      Seles was as strong as before after her comeback. The difference was, that Steffi was out of her crisis by then.

    • @andrews6341
      @andrews6341 6 місяців тому +3

      Also Steffi was hitting even harder , newer racket and was fitter and faster. Graf hit a harder ball in general even before Seles stabbing but her fitness made her incredibly hard to beat on her day@@_friedie

    • @andrews6341
      @andrews6341 6 місяців тому

      It also highlighted how lacking in depth tennis was by around this stage and pre 1995 . Sanchez was ok and Hingis was only just starting. Gabriela Sabatini and Martinez could have done better given their power but chose not to attack and hit mid court topspins that were wallopped away by big hitters. You could see the game got too powerful for them when they did not have time to hit out on their topspins and started to reverting to slicing because they did not have the time to use that big swing , they should have flattened out their shots more against Graf and Seles and Sanchez @@jjsggg1465

  • @abhidon82
    @abhidon82 2 місяці тому +15

    I remember watching this match on Doordarshan with my parents...they were supporting Seles the new sensation whilst I was supporting Graf...the thing I also remember is that day there was satellite problem during the final set of the match and the screen went black, we could only hear the sounds...however when visuals came back it was the game when Seles won...I was sad but what an epic match it was.

  • @zedinlimbo1
    @zedinlimbo1 4 місяці тому +18

    Before Djokovic mental strength there was Monika Seleš. Both from former Yugislavia. And before he had to beat the opponent AND the crowd Seleš was doing it here already

  • @kofipokuantwi-boateng5446
    @kofipokuantwi-boateng5446 6 місяців тому +21

    This was a very interesting match. I really admire both ladies.

    • @jamesdavidkmoss
      @jamesdavidkmoss 6 місяців тому +5

      Absolutely agree,I am not a graf fan,but she is amazing player.both are brilliant tennis players and it's shame what happened.Tbh Graf can only play whoever is on the orther side of count.she gets bad press,but she is super to watch.I am one of seles biggest fans and she has brought so much joy to my life.❤❤❤

  • @trenerpotennisu
    @trenerpotennisu 6 місяців тому +14

    Genius ambidextrous player Seles!

  • @rm1507
    @rm1507 6 місяців тому +74

    Best match in women's tennis history without a doubt. Seles and Graf took the sport to a higher level than anyone did before or after their time.

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +3

      Several Graf-Navratilova match had higher quality.

    • @rm1507
      @rm1507 6 місяців тому +10

      @@carrerau7138 Not from the baseline though.

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +3

      @@rm1507 Seles took the sport two levels down concerning the net game and general watchability. She established ugly tennis.

    • @jamesr2164
      @jamesr2164 6 місяців тому +12

      @@rm1507 I agree, and don't even bother with that carrerau7138 guy. He absolutely hates Seles because of his fanatical obsession for Graf.

    • @jjsggg1465
      @jjsggg1465 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@carrerau7138Not really. Graf was playing an aging past her prime Navratilova! The Evert-Navratilova matches was more even!

  • @jonelmarcialboncayao6257
    @jonelmarcialboncayao6257 Місяць тому +6

    The real and true GOAT..my forever idol Monica Seles..

  • @tedhellirand8383
    @tedhellirand8383 5 місяців тому +13

    I liked Monica so much !

  • @valentinodelpiero4861
    @valentinodelpiero4861 6 місяців тому +13

    The match we’ve been looking for!

  • @haktanhazerman1326
    @haktanhazerman1326 6 місяців тому +130

    If Seles had not been stabbed, she would have been one of the best tennis players in history. Even in that match, we saw how he beat Graf. The injustice suffered by Seles in her career made Graf's career unrivaled.

    • @broncoguy4862
      @broncoguy4862 6 місяців тому +9

      Seles' best showing at Wimbledon was reaching the final this same year, and Graf rolled her 6-2 6-1. Stabbing or not, Seles was not an accomplished grass court player. And without that feather in your cap, you're not going to rock any history books. Ask Pete Sampras about the French Open.

    • @TheMixrs
      @TheMixrs 6 місяців тому +34

      @@broncoguy4862 She was 18. Plenty of room for her to improve on grass. Sadly her rise was cut short.

    • @user-be5qg7mr1s
      @user-be5qg7mr1s 6 місяців тому +7

      it went 3 sets and 10-8 in the third, There as no domination.. Graf would have improved and maybe even use her one hander more if seles wasn't stabbed and kept challenging her. Alot of what ifs

    • @haktanhazerman1326
      @haktanhazerman1326 6 місяців тому +9

      @@broncoguy4862 In the 1992 Wimbledon final, Seles could not play her game. Her opponent in the semi-finals, Martina Navratilova, made a statement that she was disturbed by the sounds of her hitting the ball. If you remember, he hit the ball in the final without screaming. This also affected his game. You can see Seles as she should be in her performances here at the 1992 US Open and the 1993 Australian Open.

    • @haktanhazerman1326
      @haktanhazerman1326 6 місяців тому +6

      @@broncoguy4862 Since Monica Seles is not a player in the Western world, she did not receive enough attention from the tennis media. Following his repeated stabbings, the players on the tour (except Sabatini) were on the front lines. Both Martina Navratilova and Steffi Graf did not support him. Seles is an actress who had almost 3 years stolen from her career. The disgrace he experienced in Germany is a turning point in tennis history.

  • @AlD994
    @AlD994 Місяць тому +4

    More than a sporting duel, it was a duel to the death. I had never seen Graf talk so much and gesticulate and celebrate the points as if they were the game. and the face when receiving the trophy... what a shame that these duels were cut short by the fateful attack against them. the best women's final in history

  • @bertoltbrecht
    @bertoltbrecht 2 місяці тому +14

    Another beautiful day! Thank you, Seles!!!!!

  • @unsorted1138
    @unsorted1138 6 днів тому +3

    I remember watching this live on TV. The tension in that final set was so high it was almost hard to watch!

  • @GlennAussieguy
    @GlennAussieguy 6 місяців тому +8

    Watched this match live greatest grand slam final of all time for me the stabbing of Seles took away about 5 years of dominance she would have win grand slams upto 96 or 97 by then the Williams sisters, Davenport & Hingis came into the scene

  • @speabody
    @speabody 6 місяців тому +24

    I miss Monica so much

  • @maciejgudel2939
    @maciejgudel2939 6 місяців тому +5

    One of the best Selesh vs Graff matches of the previous era 😮☝️🙄👏👌☝️

  • @MarkMoran-rs1rm
    @MarkMoran-rs1rm 6 місяців тому +22

    The best match of woman's tennis monica seles vs Steffi graf

  • @gnnrgmlng8327
    @gnnrgmlng8327 6 місяців тому +43

    Imagine if Seles is not a victim of stab fan..

    • @christiangonzales3903
      @christiangonzales3903 6 місяців тому

      How old (or young, really) was she when she came back on tour? And for how many more years did she play?

    • @gnnrgmlng8327
      @gnnrgmlng8327 6 місяців тому +4

      @@christiangonzales3903 correct me if im wrong but took 2-3 years for her to comeback on tour and she never be the same again.

    • @cuzio1981
      @cuzio1981 5 місяців тому

      @@christiangonzales3903messaggio di una stupidità incredibile che non tiene conto dei risvolti psicologici e fisici dopo un fatto così grave. Era ingrassata pure di più di 20 chili. A volte è meglio tacere.

    • @cuzio1981
      @cuzio1981 5 місяців тому

      Esatto

    • @silviatennismusic
      @silviatennismusic 4 місяці тому

      Cuanto me hubiera gustado verlo ,para callar muchas bocas ,que piensan que Seles hubiera ganado todo .Ojalá no hubiera sucedido .Están dando por saco muchos años ya con el tema.

  • @guicon2007
    @guicon2007 6 місяців тому +7

    Creo que este partido está entre los tres mejores partidos de mujeres de la Era Abierta junto con Graf-Hingis RG F 1999 y Henin-Capriati USO SF 2003.

  • @thoukisth
    @thoukisth 8 днів тому +2

    THis is the first tennis match i ever watched! And to this day the best female match of all time! Seles was brilliant! 6 Slams before she was 19!!! Beating Graf 4 times! The GOAT in my book ... she suffered the biggest injustice in the history of the sport I!! Graf wouldnt stand a chance if Seles was allowed to continue .... Grafs lunatic fan, the German guy who tried to kill her by the way didnt even do one day in jail ... Graf took advantage of that attack ... there is no way she would have 22 slams if Seles was not stoped so brutally ...

  • @JuanJo39
    @JuanJo39 3 місяці тому +4

    Seles tenía una fuerza impresionante. Era débil para correr y más si el match era largo. Una de las primeras jugadoras con fuerza en los golpes de fondo de cancha .

  • @dinahanderson
    @dinahanderson 6 місяців тому +9

    Monica #GOAT Seles

  • @thb1091
    @thb1091 6 місяців тому +7

    These two changed the game more than any two players ever, IMO (they would've still been elite in the big babe era 10-15 years later, but nobody from the 70s or even 80s would've been able to compete with them in the 90s). They would've continued producing classic matches at RG, clay was definitely the surface on which they were most evenly matched (neither were at their peak in 92 and they still gave us the greatest final ever).
    Also appreciate how this RG final is like the one Graf/Seles matchup where the comment section isn't (usually) just littered with their stans foolishly arguing one was far superior to the other; they both finish with around 18-20 slams in an ideal world (yes, the math checks out) but I guess we'll never know.

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 2 місяці тому +1

      Peak Navratilova was far better than peak Seles.
      Steffi always said that the only player she was able to lose even in peak form was Martina Navratilova. And that Martina was her best opponent ever.

    • @thb1091
      @thb1091 2 місяці тому

      @@carrerau7138 Their respective rivalries suggest otherwise. Both Graf and Seles are worlds above Martina.

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 2 місяці тому

      @@thb1091 That is nonsense and you know it.
      Navratilova in 1983/84 won 6 slams (incl. 2 Wimbledons; 4 wins against Evert). Martina was 164-3 win/loss.
      Steffi in 1988/89 won 7 slams (incl. 2 Wimbledons; 3 wins against Navratilova). Steffi was 159-5 win/loss. Martina still had 2 of her 7 best years in 1988/89.
      Seles in 1991/92 won 6 slams (no Wimbledons; 1-1 in finals vs. Steffi). Seles was 144-11 win/loss. Steffi had 2 of her 6 worst years in 1991//92.
      At age 34-36 Navratilova beat #1 Seles 4 times.
      Even in 1988/89 Navratilova was better than Seles ever was. Ask Steffi Graf.

  • @greendoor5798
    @greendoor5798 6 місяців тому +11

    Super seles.

  • @juanmanuelalvarez4604
    @juanmanuelalvarez4604 5 місяців тому +4

    2:13 a forehand winner down the line from above his head with an open grip, astonishing

  • @3.pixelz
    @3.pixelz 6 місяців тому +13

    Monica Seles: the only lady that had 2 handed backhand and forehand. She truly aged like fine wine. Such a beautiful lady! ❤

    • @HeeJunFan
      @HeeJunFan 6 місяців тому +3

      Love Seles too. But there was at least one other with 2 hands on both sides... Marion Bartoli

    • @cyriljacob4839
      @cyriljacob4839 15 днів тому

      ​@@HeeJunFansome. japenese players also there.

    • @networth00
      @networth00 5 днів тому

      Hsieh Su Wei also has 2 handed on both sides. She's good to watch like Monica.

    • @networth00
      @networth00 5 днів тому

      @@HeeJunFan Jan Michael Gambill also.

  • @robfalter2522
    @robfalter2522 23 дні тому +2

    2 great champions giving us the best womens match ever. thanks ladies

  • @lbcandide
    @lbcandide День тому +1

    The beginning of the modern era

  • @deedledave9826
    @deedledave9826 4 місяці тому +5

    There are two Graf matches that I can't watch to the end: her 1999 Wimbledon loss to Davenport and this one. Regarding the former, I think it has something to do with not wanting to see my favourite player end her career with a loss. I still wish she could have completed the back-to-back slams. With the latter, I just feel like she should have won this match, but the loss speaks to a certain stubbornness in her game, an unwillingness to adapt to the Seles challenge that cost her the match. Still, even though I can't watch it right to the end, both players are a marvel to watch.

  • @mohamedabdelkader8665
    @mohamedabdelkader8665 6 місяців тому +3

    Awesome work thanks.

  • @lucianonovello8878
    @lucianonovello8878 6 місяців тому +38

    Despite Graf is an amazing champion and tennis legend, she can’t be considered as the Goat. I have great respect for her, but ignoring that the ignoble stabbing, horribly suffered by Seles, helped tremendously Graf in achieving her tennis records, even if unintentionally, it’s like ignoring the existence of the force of gravity on Earth.

    • @user-be5qg7mr1s
      @user-be5qg7mr1s 6 місяців тому +8

      the goat is based on numbers and is measurable- 22 slams. Its not based on your opinion of what could have been.

    • @jjsggg1465
      @jjsggg1465 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@@user-be5qg7mr1s History will look at it differently! And Serena is the current GOAT and not Graf! Can't the DENY the FACT on how the stabbing of the true#1 player benefitted the #2 player! And to make it worst, the evil act was committed by a fan of Grafs!

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +10

      Seles was clearly superior to Graf. But Graf fans ( those fanatical ones) hate to admit the truth on how much Graf's career enormously benefitted from the Gunther Parche madness.

    • @user-be5qg7mr1s
      @user-be5qg7mr1s 6 місяців тому +1

      losing 5-10 H2H is " clearly superior" and 4-6 before the stabbing. You got anything else beside sounding like pouty 10 year old? @@showtell8905

    • @jjsggg1465
      @jjsggg1465 6 місяців тому +8

      ​@@user-be5qg7mr1s 4 to 6 before the stabbing but 3 of those Graf wins were against a 14 -15 year old Rookie Seles! 😂The real story was how Seles quickly turned it around and had a 3-1 winning record against Graf in the MAJORS where it mattered most! 10 slams for Seles vs 2 slams for Graf during the period prior to the stabbing!

  • @peterpataki9129
    @peterpataki9129 6 місяців тому +2

    Great video and would be so great to see a highlight video of the same year's semi-final match between Sabatini and Seles 🤩

  • @cmahima
    @cmahima 6 місяців тому +22

    An iconic rivalry... A heartbreaking end ... Seles was on her way to complete domination, if not for that incident she'd easily have surpassed Graf and been the 🐐 of that generation of women's tennis.

    • @franciscolaprida2133
      @franciscolaprida2133 6 місяців тому +1

      You can’t really be considered GOAT without a Wimbledon title...she was able to make it past the quarterfinals only once in her career...

    • @cmahima
      @cmahima 6 місяців тому +7

      @@franciscolaprida2133 Seles reached the Wimbledon final in '92. She was only 20 when the stabbing occurred, she had 6-7 years to win a Wimbledon, and she had enough time to achieve it.

    • @pt_1070
      @pt_1070 6 місяців тому +6

      Monica Seles was actually only 19 when stabbed. Maybe hadn't even reached her peak. In a normal career span and staying motivated, she would have had plenty of time to win a Wimbledon singles title.

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +6

      True! Monica Seles was the clear #1 at the time of stabbing (defending champion at 3 slams) and that Steffi was a clear #2 (W champ plus runner-up at the Australian and French).
      Monica was #1 and had been for 2 years before the stabbing. Whether Steffi or her fans liked it or not, the stabbing made her the top player!

    • @cmahima
      @cmahima 6 місяців тому +4

      @@showtell8905 Totally agree, one of the most tragic events in sports.

  • @quentincrisp6933
    @quentincrisp6933 2 дні тому +1

    Graf is the greatest female player ever in the Open Era! Her resume & accomplishments are unmatched!

  • @titoo5238
    @titoo5238 5 днів тому

    Thanks for uploading. A. Big fan Of Mónica Seles since 1992.i was in Saudi Arabia that time. Now it's May 5th 2024..

  • @showtell8905
    @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +17

    TRAGICALLY, the crazy German fan made the correct decision in terms of accomplishing what he wanted to. The monster accomplished all that he could have ever hoped for in the stabbing and more with very little downside risk. He got off legally .. and yet he took the #1 ranking and the tremendous momentum away from Seles.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 6 місяців тому +2

      Yup. And people who say Seles was on the decline already should look at her late 92 early 93 stats. 1 loss in 6 months (in the 3rd set breaker vs GOAT Navratilova) after 34 straight wins that included 2 slams and the YEC

  • @angelatanurdzic7508
    @angelatanurdzic7508 6 місяців тому +3

    Perfect little Mo ❤

  • @mirzicd
    @mirzicd 6 місяців тому +6

    Monica ❤

  • @Macbrother
    @Macbrother Місяць тому +1

    I am in awe of Monica Seles. She plays with violence.

  • @BEGGARWOOD1
    @BEGGARWOOD1 7 днів тому

    Just wonderful

  • @geoffthomson1686
    @geoffthomson1686 4 дні тому

    What an amazing match !

  • @vinko37
    @vinko37 6 місяців тому +4

    Monika ❤️❤️😍

  • @foucaultpascal8799
    @foucaultpascal8799 6 місяців тому +1

    See you 32 years i love you thé girls ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉

  • @user-js2it2lb6f
    @user-js2it2lb6f 5 днів тому

    Such a great final

  • @PhaniRanjan-cw3pb
    @PhaniRanjan-cw3pb 2 місяці тому +1

    Monica Seles is renowned for her use of a double-handed grip on both her forehand and backhand shots, a technique she employed for the majority of her shots. However, determining her dominant hand solely based on her gameplay can be challenging. Without observing her serve, it's difficult to definitively classify her as either left- or right-handed.

  • @prathimasubramanya7654
    @prathimasubramanya7654 6 місяців тому

    They Were The Best And Legendary Matches', That Always Kept The Audiences' Glued To Their TV Sets. Big Fan Of #SteffiGraf , Liked Everything About Her, Especially Her Tennis Attire Made Me Like Her Even More. #LEGENDSFOREVER 🌟👌💖 #MonicaSeles #SteffiGraf #RolandGarros #RG 🎾✨

  • @kinglucifer4579
    @kinglucifer4579 6 місяців тому +11

    Seles will always be the GOAT. No matter who wons how many? The way she was, she is the best ever. Noone has ever reached her peak !!

    • @dennisgichohi5392
      @dennisgichohi5392 6 місяців тому +3

      Whatever makes you sleep at night😂......

    • @jjsggg1465
      @jjsggg1465 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@dennisgichohi5392Here comes desperation from a jealous Graf Fantard!!!😂

    • @dennisgichohi5392
      @dennisgichohi5392 6 місяців тому +4

      @@jjsggg1465 jealous???? Of what exactly???in respect to titles graf has won everything in their is to win in professional tennis......go touch grass kiddo

  • @carrerau7138
    @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +25

    Steffi 66 unforced errors, Monica 30 unforced errors.
    The story of the match.

    • @Vipa567
      @Vipa567 6 місяців тому +2

      And why did she have so many unforced errors?

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Vipa567 Didn‘t have her best day.
      Whereas Seles played one of her greatest matches ever.

    • @TheMixrs
      @TheMixrs 6 місяців тому +11

      @@Vipa567 Because Monica was in her head. Hadn't she been stabbed I guess Monica would send her into an early retirement.

    • @Vipa567
      @Vipa567 6 місяців тому +3

      @@carrerau7138 So, nothing Monica did made her day worse?

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +4

      @@TheMixrs That match was Monica‘s only win in her two great years 1991/92 against Steffi who won the other 3 matches quite easily.
      So your claim that Monica (!) was in Steffi’s head is asinine. But your are a Selestial and that comes with the territory.
      BTW, which #1 player has the worst H2H record against any opponent in the history of the WTA?
      Take a guess, boy…. 🤣

  • @morph-jh9iy
    @morph-jh9iy 23 дні тому

    Not Steffi's best day with a few too many mistakes, but that and the intensity made it one of the best finals ever. Seles was brilliant that day, but a few weeks later, on a quicker surface, she was absolutely demolished by Graf.

  • @TareqAstroPhoton
    @TareqAstroPhoton 2 дні тому

    She was the one i was watching Tennis of women, and her finals or games against Graf are always epic until that accident happened.

  • @jamesdavidkmoss
    @jamesdavidkmoss 6 місяців тому +3

    Monica was fast around the court back then.Graf was the better mover but seles was no slouch.

  • @alexcooper3007
    @alexcooper3007 4 дні тому

    Боже я ж начинал как раз с этих матчей смотреть теннис ...12 лет и мало что понимал,но как сейчас помню эту молодую на то время восходящую звезду Селеш(кстати моя любимица тогда) и более опытную Граф...жаль что такая трагедия случилась с Моникой иначе у нее больше было бы шлемов,а кто-то бы не досчитался их в своём...та жа Граф к примеру!))

  • @boban2185
    @boban2185 День тому

    Now compare this quality to today's matches

  • @marcossouzasilva2104
    @marcossouzasilva2104 6 місяців тому +2

    Seles ❤

  • @carrerau7138
    @carrerau7138 21 день тому +1

    Fantastic how the French crowd supported Steffi!

    • @andrews6341
      @andrews6341 11 днів тому

      Seles was really disliked at this time by watchers and other players especially as she came over as quite cold and arrogant also she would win 60 60 and say things like "it was a tough match at times " and laugh in press conferences sarcasticly. Even when she won matches she would give cold handshakes . Graf was like this also too to be fair though. Sabatini was very different she was always very nice either way. Though tbf Seles was very young also the screaming was a bit of a factor.

  • @sujanyadebnath4622
    @sujanyadebnath4622 3 дні тому

    Her strength was grunting....see the next meeting of that.

  • @stari_kapetan
    @stari_kapetan 6 місяців тому +4

    THAT YEAR, SHE WAS WITH YUGOSLAV FLAG, DON'T FORGET THAT !!!

  • @anacifuentesmartinez1917
    @anacifuentesmartinez1917 6 місяців тому +2

    Lo mas grande por tu fortaleza

  • @daniloespiritu6718
    @daniloespiritu6718 2 дні тому

    Nobody ever do that 6 consecutive grand slam title its only Monica Seles

  • @pylekate
    @pylekate 6 місяців тому +1

    I wish Steffi had come over her BH more. No doubt her slice was amazing but when she stepped in & really came over her single handed backhand, it was an AMAZING fkn shot!

    • @marykistnen6837
      @marykistnen6837 6 місяців тому +1

      Steffi's forehand is not asthetically pleasing either. Effective shots of course but not beautiful.

    • @adao2103
      @adao2103 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@marykistnen6837 I thought I was the only one that felt this way about her forehand cause everyone seem to be swooning over it.😂😂 Her style of play will not go past the 1st round today. She has the entire court open when she's hitting the forehand from the backhand side of the court...

  • @arlaz94
    @arlaz94 6 місяців тому +3

    Monica was playing for Yugoslavia in 1992, so you shoud put at least Serbian flag, because there is no Yugoslavian. She won 8 grand slams playing for Yugoslavia, just saying.

  • @Akira-san_JP
    @Akira-san_JP 6 місяців тому +3

    9:54 Ayrton Senna

  • @user-ft2vf9lk7v
    @user-ft2vf9lk7v Місяць тому

    I was so happy for Monica Seles. Especially since she beat the woman I most despise. I rather not go into detail about it. 😊👏🎾

  • @edadams1957
    @edadams1957 7 днів тому +1

    Listen, Graf was great but her career and titles were impacted by Seles getting stabbed, as Seles was starting to become dominant!

  • @EleutheriosKaralis-yq9vl
    @EleutheriosKaralis-yq9vl 5 місяців тому

    Even in the absence of seles,graf was destroyed by mary pierce in roland garros quarterfinal,first round wimbledon lose against lori mac neil,the US-Open 1994 were theirs,but sanchez vivario managed to turn the match and win,so imagine her with the continously presence of seles.Grafs short ressurection was owned weak opponents,Mary Joe Fernandez,Helena Sukova,Jana Novotna.

  • @showtell8905
    @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +5

    Graff was a great player but Seles was just BETTER and mentally stronger. Graff won about half her slams after the stabbing, when it looked like she was just going to win W from then on..............

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +2

      We all remember fondly how mentally strong Seles was after that unfortunate stabbing incident.
      Steffi would have played again within a few weeks!

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому

      ​ Are you saying that your COMPATRIOT GERM stabbed the WRONG PLAYER???

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +1

      @@showtell8905 Speaking of minor stab wounds (which seem to fascinate losers so much) - Steffi would have played again within a few weeks. She was a tough cookie and never a fragile flower like Seles and, yes, also like Navratilova and Serena (who folded like cheap tents when the Grand Slam was on the line).

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому

      @@carrerau7138 Gunter Parshe knew the only way to stop Seles was to stab her!!
      KNIFE#1 Graff 😂😂😂owes at least 10 slams to Gunter Parshe and his KNIFING of Seles!!

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому

      @@carrerau7138 Yes, but since Graff couldn't do it on the court, Parshe had to do it with a knife.🤣🤣🤣

  • @anthonydecastro6938
    @anthonydecastro6938 4 місяці тому +3

    Graf can be hard-headed at times. This is one match where she could have varied her match play so much more, making Seles run from end to end, from front to back, with more dropshots just to keep Seles from any rhythm. but she allowed herself to play the Seles game and therefore lost, even though playing that game it was still a very close match....

  • @marcinrypina8956
    @marcinrypina8956 18 днів тому

    Why nobody follow two handle forhend of Seles ?

  • @ericlopez8622
    @ericlopez8622 6 днів тому

    Graf the Great! Probably the most athletically gifted player in women's tennis history, Navratilova & S. Williams 2nd and 3rd respectively!!! Lol

  • @jujumusique1305
    @jujumusique1305 Місяць тому

    No one other than Graf could have stretched Seles to 8-10 in the third set that day.
    No one other than Seles could have survived Graf’s comeback that day.

  • @charomiami
    @charomiami 5 днів тому

    Amazing how little unforced errors

  • @100nu77
    @100nu77 6 місяців тому +4

    Monica seles and stefi graf would hv ended their career with nearly 15 titles each.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 Місяць тому

      Realistically yes. I still think both would stop dominating by the late 90s. Seles was robbed of 1993-1996 which would have been her peak years. She had lost only one match in 6 months when she was attacked in hamburg

  • @daniloespiritu6718
    @daniloespiritu6718 2 дні тому

    Monica Seles is GOAT in Tennis History

  • @akimbohr
    @akimbohr 2 місяці тому +2

    Monica was mentally unbreakable...even with the audience clearly on Steffi's side. Monica was a natural fighter and Steffi was clueless how to break her.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 Місяць тому

      Yes. In similar conditions both Sanchez and Hingis crumbled under pressure. Seles stood firm.

    • @andrews6341
      @andrews6341 11 днів тому

      Graf should have won that match , she made far too many errors. If she cut them down she would have the last two sets easily.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 11 днів тому

      @@andrews6341 errors are drawn. Seles was pressuring her like hell through the whole match and punished every short ball with a winner while bringing a lot of balls back. Graf had to go for a lot of winners and this produced a lot of errors in the process. Actually Seles was leading in the third by a significant margin and could have won 6-3 had she converted any of the match points she got.

  • @asksimonwhy
    @asksimonwhy 13 годин тому

    I love a great one hand backhand but Seles just ate up Grafs slice

  • @ofall4643
    @ofall4643 6 місяців тому +2

    Why they play tiebreak in the third now? Is better without by far, i wish they comeback to this

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 Місяць тому +1

      Agree. It’s such a stupid change, especially for finals. It cost Federer the Wimbledon 2019 title.

  • @1tallncoolguy
    @1tallncoolguy 5 днів тому

    I guess they still had to win the set by two games no matter how high the set went back then, right? No tie-breaker.

  • @jefftravis3808
    @jefftravis3808 6 днів тому

    As remarkable as Seles was, she was also the most significant player to bring in the screaming/shrieking/yelling (whatever term u prefer; but it's not 'grunting' really) era, which taints the tour to this day.

  • @benji84
    @benji84 22 дні тому

    Look at the kid in the white shirt at 21:09 is he screaming something negative at Monica he doesn’t look happy lol

  • @srvrtn21
    @srvrtn21 6 місяців тому

    Fedal or Sampragassi of the WTA

  • @manforU100
    @manforU100 2 місяці тому +5

    Amazing footwork from Steffi such a unlucky 3 set matched..she brutally revenge came at Wimbledon with only 57 minutes matched. Such a GOAT.

    • @jujumusique1305
      @jujumusique1305 Місяць тому +6

      And the decider 6 months later at the Australian open, with Seles winning in 3 sets again ;)

    • @vield1
      @vield1 Місяць тому +1

      And the final revenge was when Steffi beat Monica in 99 in RG. She won her 22nd GS in only 12 years of professionnal carreer. No other player has achieved this 😊

  • @jeffreykaufmann2867
    @jeffreykaufmann2867 8 днів тому +1

    Even Graf knows she would have won less then 20 slams had Seles not been stabbed and Seles would have won at least 16 Slams

  • @diegorossi8080
    @diegorossi8080 2 дні тому

    monica n 1 all time....

  • @bhnaparalela
    @bhnaparalela 6 місяців тому

    do nada o "homem" 09:53

  • @Nicolecangianti
    @Nicolecangianti 3 місяці тому +2

    At that time Monica had a mental strength that then she would have lost after the stabbing

  • @user-kv9ik3uz7n
    @user-kv9ik3uz7n 6 днів тому

    Why was seles so nice to Graf

  • @nothinger01
    @nothinger01 2 місяці тому

    Mónica Seles

  • @manforU100
    @manforU100 2 місяці тому

    Seles back at 1995 and play until 2003.and won only 1 grand slam.poor Seles

  • @a66789
    @a66789 2 місяці тому

    *

  • @shadak
    @shadak 6 місяців тому +2

    Despite Graf's >60 unforced errors she barely lost the match. Monica is a great player but what was unique about Steffi is her ability to stay competitive/win even when her level isn't on top.

  • @jamesc7019
    @jamesc7019 6 місяців тому +3

    Greatest rivalry. Graf destroyed her on grass. People forget during this time Grafs Dad was in prison which affected her mentally. Seles was so strong mentally. Grunting should be banned in tennis, nobody should be doing it for every point it’s a intimidation tactic.

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +3

      Seles destroyed Graff everywhere else which was why she was number one and Graff was not. Not much of a rivalry between the 2 during that time as Seles was DOMINATING women's tennis including Graff. Are we supposed to believe that Graff barely clinging on to Wimbledon while the top ranked Seles was winning all the other slams was merely due to a graff slump? What happened to her motivation there? oh i forgot of course "the slump" is covered by other excuses. And of course there seemed to be no problems mentally from 30th April 1993 onwards. it was positively indecent the way *SLUMPING* graff immediately started showing up in slam finals again once the prospect of a drubbing off Seles disappeared!

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +1

      Pa Graf was in prison a few years later (1995-97).

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +4

      @@showtell8905Steffi and Seles were 4-4 in non-grass matches pre-stabbing.
      2-2 when Seles was #1.
      Nice try, liar girl…

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +1

      @@carrerau7138 A young and healthy "GRAFF (in her early 20s) "MENTAL DUE TO PA" SLUMP period" that lasted 3 whole years, and just happened to END when the dominant #1 player (Monica Seles) left the tour? and a "period" that she never suffered before or after that?
      Beggars belief.🤣🤣🤣

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +1

      @@showtell8905 Want to tell us why Alli is not the boxing GOAT, girl?

  • @Uns_Maps_8
    @Uns_Maps_8 5 місяців тому +2

    Seles was the whole match on the defensive. But Graf had innumerable unforced errors

  • @Macbrother
    @Macbrother Місяць тому

    Hear me out: Seles backhand better than Joker's.

  • @carrerau7138
    @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +3

    Steffi should have won this!
    Anyway, Wimbledon is more prestigious than the FO. And in Wimbledon a few weeks later Steffi proved who is boss! 😍

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +3

      this is what the neurotic graffanatic and his "sockpuppets" is reduced to 🤣🤣😂

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому +2

      Seles was the clear number one player in the world while Graff was the clear number two player in the world behind Seles.
      1991: seles 3 slams, graff 1
      1992: seles 3 slams, graff 1
      1993: seles 1 slam, graff 0 ZERO
      1990, 1991, 1992 YEC WTA CHAMPIONSHIPS: Seles 3 , graff 0 ZERO
      How did Graff proved she was boss?😂😂😂

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +3

      @@showtell8905 Grafans are reduced to
      - a Golden Slam
      - 22 slams (21 of them in less than a decade)
      - a 50 % tournament win rate
      - each slam won at least 4 times
      - at least 6 slams won on every surface
      - 5 years with at least 3 slams won
      - a 5-2 win/loss record against #1-ranked Sales

    • @showtell8905
      @showtell8905 6 місяців тому

      @@carrerau7138 You're treading dangerously close to parshe-level idiocy.. throwing in post KNIFE STABBING 1993 in order to pad the figures and make everything seem inevitable and decisive.
      UNDISPUTED WORLD NUMBER ONE Seles and SECOND RANKED Graff squared off for 3 years when both were at peak. Seles DOMINATED the confrontation 8-2/3-1. What else is there to say? When both were at their best, Seles was clearly BETTER!
      🤣😂😂

    • @carrerau7138
      @carrerau7138 6 місяців тому +3

      @@showtell8905 By usually beating Selles in those years, mostly really badly.
      Anyway, 1991/92 were Selles‘s two best years ever but only Steffi‘s 11th and 9th-best.
      Would you now please compare Steffi‘s two best years 1988/89 with Selles‘s 11th and 9th-best 1997 and 1999? I think Steffi was narrowly better….
      😂😂

  • @redroad9949
    @redroad9949 3 дні тому

    Great player but all the screaming and moaning in women's tennis started with Seles. WTA should have stopped it right then and there.

  • @shnhkn1
    @shnhkn1 6 місяців тому +3

    Steffi Graf is the best tennis player by far both womens and mens combined

    • @dreman1970
      @dreman1970 6 місяців тому +3

      Haha...ok

    • @dreman1970
      @dreman1970 6 місяців тому +5

      Ok....where do I begin with this....I'm not taking anything from steffi Graf....all time great ..but best tennis player by FAR? Federer, Nadal and ESPECIALLY Djokovic would have something to say about that ..they all had to play EACH OTHER!! And Serena has more GS...with stiffer competition...Steffi main 'rivals' during her peak was an old evert...an old Martina....sabatini...Mary jo Fernandez...and vicario...and oh yeah....SELES...everybody hit lollipops compared to Graf....EXCEPT SELES....And from the 90 French to the 93 Australian open....seles DOMINATED the GS!! She won 8 of 10...Graf won TWO...one she beat seles in the final at Wimbledon...and seles didn't play in the other Wimbledon graf won...FACTS...When seles got stabbed she was CLEARLY the #1 player in the world....Graf had 11 slams at that point....she got her eleven AFTER the stabbing ..and when seles came back she was nowhere near the player she was....If seles never gets stabbed graf does NOT have 22 GS....she may not have even caught Chris and Martina (18)....Graf always had trouble with players who could hit the ball as hard as her....

  • @shnhkn1
    @shnhkn1 6 місяців тому +2

    that's interesting seles uses both hand for forhand and backhand. weirdo!

    • @Akira-san_JP
      @Akira-san_JP 6 місяців тому

      Yes, but the single backhand of Graf is awesome too

    • @broncoguy4862
      @broncoguy4862 6 місяців тому +4

      Bartoli used two hands on both wings, as did Peng Shuai before she disappeared.

  • @pianoking8878
    @pianoking8878 6 місяців тому

    아 진짜 안타깝다. 그라프가 이겼을 수도 있었는데 셀레스가 너무 컨디션이 올라왔고 그라프는 거기에 반해 자신의 페이스를 잘 못지켰을 때다. 결과적으로 이긴 사람이 더 잘한 건 맞는데, 그라프의 기량도 못지 않게 올라왔다면 하는 아쉬움이 남고, 그라프가 이겼다면 역사가 바뀌었을까 싶다. 그라프의 아버지가 외도를 하는 등 내성적인 그라프를 공격적인 언론 앞으로 이끌어 내어 평상심을 유지하기 어려웠고 그녀의 약점인 백핸드가 집요하게 공격당하며 랭킹도 2위로 추락해 페이스를 많이 잃은 상태. 5승 2패로 우위에 있던 셀레스에게 패했으나 다음 윔블던 결승에서는 간단하게 승리. 그러나 US에서는 비카리오에 패했고, 호주에서 다시 만났으나 역전패하며 2인자로 내려앉았고 결국 그 사건이 벌어졌다. 지금까지도 많은 논란이 있는 그때 그 사건. 셀레스나 그라프 모두에게 안타까운 사건이었다. 셀레스는 그 이후로 페이스를 완전히 잃어버렸고 복귀 후 공동 1위에 올랐으나 이듬해 비카리오와 공동 2위로 내려 앉았다. 비카리오도 94년부터 무섭게 성장한 최정상의 선수였으나 셀레스 입장에서는 복귀 전의 전적을 고려하면 굴욕적인 순간이었다. 이듬해(97년)부터는 힝기스의 시대로 그라프는 99년 결승에서 힝기스를 이기며 화려하게 커리어를 마무리했지만 셀레스는 힝기스는 물론 윌리엄스 자매에게도 밀리며 쓸쓸히 은퇴.