That last part about taming is definitely interesting to me. Recently it feels like the main cast are achieving ultimate forms of themselves so that they could become masters instead of students
"He was a true warrior, born with the strength and clout that would make most Saiyan fathers proud. But there was something far darker about him. Violent, threatening, and in time it began to scare me. I had no choice but to have a scientist craft a device that would control his power." Paragus quote about Broly
Broly definitely isn’t going to die. He has so much room for growth both power wise and character development. It would be a missed opportunity for him to not join the main cast. I hope he gets a whole arc to himself where he develops his own unique controlled form to overcome a powerful adversary through calming himself
Ever since they’ve rebooted Broly in DBS, I can’t get enough of the guy. Broly’s character is rather wholesome when calm and his overall feats are purely insane. I firmly believe that the next objective is to hone himself, with Goku as his mentor, so he will no longer become a liability.
We only live physically once so we shouldn’t be afraid to do anything bro, i smoke weed on my UA-cam channel and i ate Mcdonald’s inside Walmart, screw anyones opinion brotha mane☺️
Love the thoughtfulness. You got me excited to watch Super Broly again and excited for the future of this character. If it was another story I would think that Broly would die but the fact that it’s Dragon Ball makes me think that he will hang around until the end of the story just like all the other side characters.
Broly is essentially the chosen one of his race and his genes are the rarest only seen every 1000 years. His Saiyan power is immeasurably magnified that his first Super Saiyan form is estimated at 500x his base, compared to 50x base which genetically applies to every other super saiyan including Gohan, Vegeta, Goku etc. He is an anomaly and the embodiment of Saiyan power in its purest form. He is a phenom like no other.
Geekdom, check his previous Broly content. Makes sense when not even post ToP SSB Goku & Vegeta together could hurt him when he became Super Saiyan. Hence why they were to forced to fuse.
@Batman The Wait what? Hulk doesn't get more powerful. Thats Hulks whole persona, the angrier the Hulk the more powerful he become, the whole point the dude was making is that both Hulk and Broly are giant raging monsters that get stronger and stronger.
@Batman The You clearly don’t read comics, let alone know anything about Hulk. Please rewatch all Hulk movies (if you even have) starting with 2003 Hulk and grab a few Hulk comics or watch Comicstorian’s channel on Hulk comics before you speak nonsense.
Like how Goku's story in z is inspired by superman's. Alien being sent to earth as a baby because his planet was being destroyed. Bardock was also originally a scientist like how superman's dad was. You can also kinda compare zod and his team to Vegeta, nappa, and raditz.
I think if piccolo is able to use orange piccolo whenever I think it be super cool to see him and goku have some nice training fights. Besides maybe some bs filler in super leading up to TOP goku hasnt been able to seriously train with piccolo since the android saga.
I wasn't sure if I would, but I really like these Saiyuki episodes you've been doing! I enjoy really understanding why characters are written how they are, the ideology behind their creation, etc. Good job! Way to have great reach in a semi-niche area 💪💯
I think Baa was the crux to Brolys innocence and I think Brolys story about Baa and Limos comment backs this up after Broly had told Limo and Cheelai the story behind the item draped around Brolys waist which Limo after the fact would state "I think that's the most innocent thing I've heard in a while" or something along those lines and the reason why Paragus would cut the relationship off completely foreseeing the outcome of the two having that said relationship being a hindrance to Paraguses plains for revenge.
Super broly taming Ba was a metaphor to express the idea of broly being a person who instantly "tamed himself" or his ego. Conflict in dragon ball is always an example of conflicting ideals with oneself or others, each character gains strength by knowing themselves better through conflict and becoming a single entity between their external and internal states. Broly never wanted to pursue battle, he was never conflicted within himself but was forced to by his father. He had achieved a very natural state of enlightenment or single mindedness early in his life. He was able to tap into the great ape form with-ought transforming because that represents him as a character, he dosent see a difference between his external (sayian/human like) state and his internal(ideal/idenitty) self created state which is why he is so strong. The source behind his greatest strength was also that of his greatest weakness. Him being very naturally inclined towards wholeness and integration as a child left him isolated and in a perptually fixed state. His ego or his ideal was left un-challeged which was perfectly embodied by his tyrannical father.
I loved this video so much! Gave me a greater appreciation of Toriyama’s work. I should definitely read Journey to the West. From another Jordan Lee myself, I will praise the effort put into this video with Geekdom101 :)
Having Broly become the strongest character of the story would be a good way to end Z. Go past Z with Broly being the main focus and maybe going back to Earth or acting as protector for universe 7 from planet Beerus.
It all depends on Akira. He could further develop Broly and continue to make him the strongest by training through the Saga's or he Gohan him, it all depends. Broly is like the saiyan equivalent of Frieza, a true mutant. I could see a World War Hulk style saga with Broly, if he controls his rage and then something tragic happens, he transforms and nobody can stop him.
Just a cool reminder, Broly literally survived on Vampa by drinking the blood of his enemies (remember he never had water by the time of the first movie).
I love dragon ball super and the direction that it's going I hope that they keep making it but I also love the idea of old school Broly from Z where he's just a Mindless straight up monster blowing through everybody so I really hope they fix an idea of Broly being an ally but keeps going berserk and then keeps becoming a half villain or at least a good plot convenience for an awesome fight
He was never mindless until bio-broly. Even in the second movie he still was capable of thinking he just was dead set on killing whatever challenger came into contact with him.
If dragonball franchise where to ever do an official spin off they should definitely do it with Broly and his friends going on an adventure of self discovery as I don’t feel Broly should rely on Goku & Vegeta as sources of mentorship. Broly must find a way to control his power & anger in his own way.
I kinda wished that he found a way off of Vampa sooner, trained on multiple worlds, learned several techniques, and developed his saiyan abilities. The way things are going on now, it will be a while before we see Broly in action with the incredible power we know he can unleash.
@@vampir3sbl00d He would have to put up a shield to protect himself from the cold. As for the oxygen, he can hold his breath. Finding a nearby planet would with require sensing ki or his father could use the navigational system from the ship. If he can construct a shock collar that can pump a bolt of electricity with a single push of a button that lasted for over a decade, he could’ve tore out the ship’s navigational system and used it to find another planet.
@@vampir3sbl00d He uses it when Gogeta uses his star fall barrage(whatever you call it) and Broly uses his barrier. He actually uses it right after his super saiyan transformation.
The way Broly's character is. He needs to meet Gohan. Their personalities are a lot alike. I think it's cool that he has a good thing going with Goku and Vegeta but, I see a really solid brotherly relationship that could happen between he and Gohan. They could be the perfect training partners, Broly could see what it's like living with friends and family by seeing Gohan's life, Gohan would have someone else with immense potential to train with and more. Even Piccolo has things he could teach to Broly. We could see Broly's personality really flourish and grow through these two. Just seeing Broly interact with all the other Z fighters as friends is a really touching thought. This man would go from being raised alone to having an entire fleet of friends who care for him, which would make any raging moments he would have that much more intense.🔥🤌🏾😩🥲
The whole “is broly gonna be the strongest or is he gonna die” has been a point in my mind for awhile now. He’s my favorite character and I want the best for him, that’s why I say he needs to be nerfed. I feel like the best way to do it would be to have broly’s power reset every time he rages; I.E. after his fight in earth, when he was back on vampa in his base, he was only a bit stronger than when he first started off (cause of zenkais). Then you could say that broly still needs to train to get his base power up and the higher his base is, the less time it takes for his power to grow to the godly state it was. I feel like it’s necessary because he might die or arguably worse, get gohan-ed. he needs a nerf to keep him from becoming this overwhelming force that trivializes all fights and power-cliffs every fight. It’ll also work because it gives broly his own unique fighting style outside of just “fighting like a wild animal”. His gimmick being that if he can stall out a fight long enough he’ll win. Like 18 when she fought vegeta, except backwards. That and I also feel like he can be the guy who takes on all the fodder, he’s a massive tank that can survive a lot and deal back even more. Just like how goku is most entertaining when he’s in the back foot and vegeta when he’s dominating, I feel like broly is the most entertaining when he’s rampaging and beating people down which works perfect for a bunch of nameless fighters who just need to be dealt with.
a simple way to do it is he can only grow stronger if he's in rage mode and now that Goku has taught him control he no longer has access to that infinite power growth during a fight. that only happens when he completely loses it which now wont happen as often. that would make it so he keeps up with everyone else without always being the strongest.
Broly got the best team surrounding him. He got Whis, Beerus, Goku, Vegeta, old supreme Kai… ect. Broly will be around long term and I’d don’t know why we have to either have broly end up being the strongest or dying at the end of the series. Broly ain’t a mindless warrior, he enjoys a good fight but he’s not going out his way looking for it like goku is lol. I just think we won’t see broly really be used in battles for a good while. He’ll pop up in the series to show progress but i don’t they will use him for any battles until the stakes called for it. Broly is like dropping a nuke as last resort and from what I see. They don’t need the Nuke yet, Goku and friends are doing just fine. But goku doesn’t progressively find stronger opponents so it’s only a matter of time.
He’s the sayian that Beerus should be fighting. The one that The Oracle Fish told him about thirty-nine years before he took a long cat nap and woke up thinking about it. 🤞🏼💯
It's going to be so hard to fit broly into Dragon Ball super, the only thing I can think of that make sense is this. Some how the manage to a close relationship between King Vegeta, Bardock, and Paragus. Then make it so that it ties to why they died or if they tried to accomplish something in betraying frieza Idk. I like the reference of Son Wukong I'm learning more and more about each time you make these videos
I think once it is drawn in manga form, it will look more proportional I think it will be drawn to be a bit longer than SSJ2 hair, with more spikier hair..
Why are you guys saying Broly has never been properly trained? His father was Paragus, a Colonel in the Saiyan Army. He trained Broly but not like Goku and Vegeta have been trained. He doesn't know how to control his power, but he has the skill to quickly learn while on the battlefield. Probably something he learned from his father. His ability to grow stronger while he fights and also draw power from his Ape form is a phenomenon. But, he does have training. Maybe we can nuance the type of training he has had and not dismiss it. Maybe he can teach Goku and Vegeta a lesson or two...
Personally rather than dying I think he's more likely to just aim to be strong enough to secure a peaceful life style and then just "retire". He seems to be someone who wants to be left alone and fight only to protect those he cares for.
In the OG version He's born on the same day as Goku, in the Mornern Story He around closer to Vegeta's age I hope 15+ years from now we get another version of Broly movie
my favorite part of the broly scene was when whis tells him to observe Goku and Vegeta trained... and he showed a fantastic "shyt-eating grin" that got my gears turning... 😏
I'm excited that broly hasn't been forgotten I loved og broly fo hi strength but super broly is the character I always wanted them to do with I'm back then
People shouldn’t be so short sighted and think That Broly is going to hold a candle to Goku going forward. Most villains that Goku faces become a friend. They all are as powerful as he is, many with way less training (Frieza is a decent example). And even though those powerful villains are now on the sidelines as a friend, none of them have any narrative weight or strength. Broly will be bo different. People fanboy out and forgot that this happens every other arc.
Well I really wish they would use him.. but all precedent shows that he isnt going to be a part of ANYTHING. Frieza trained for a month or two, skipped by SS1,2,3& God form and was stronger than Blue. Where’s he at? Buu more powerful than SS3 goku, where’s he at? Picollo was stronger than Goku in Db, and got sidelined. THEN, he passed by Goku twice, where’s he at? Broly is now just more comic relief on the sidelines. It’s weird to me that people keep thinking these bad-guys-turned-good are going to be a special part of the narrative going forward. Broly got beat. He’s done. It’s over.
Hell, Roshi, krillain, tien, YAMCHA, Vegeta, Android 18… All these people were once POWERFUL, end of the world villains, that came over to the Z fighters’ side… and nothing. Broly is going to be nothing. He’s just someone to make Beerus jealous. I hope we get. Beerus-Rocky montage. Where he works out ti Eye of the Tiger
Broly was holding the candle damn near the whole movie 1v2 both blue vegeta and goku and force them to fuse and then made them use blue straight up skipping god with NO TRAINING
@@DopeBoyy1017 I agree. Broly schooled them. He made them look like little girls. I’m strictly taking to a comment made in the video that Broly would take over as the main character or die… there is ZERO chance of him keeping up with Goku going forward. I’m not saying I want that. Or that his movie didn’t prove blah blah blah. There’s just ALWAYS people that get brought in, and they all amount to zero
This now also explains where the creator got the idea for the form and transformation in Legend: A DragonBall Tale, especially as he looks like he took a ton of inspiration from WuKong or the monkey King in Goku's super saiyan transformation and also why Vegeta kinda says his is wild and needs more refining 👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿 This series and all the fan spin offs are always some awesome and interesting thoughts and ideas Also love Jordan's DragonBall spin off as well 🙏🏿🙏🏿
man i love this talks/analysis of DB content. I really really hope to see more of broly now that he is not a bad guy also he is training and learning to control his power.
Son Wukong character was so active in journey to the west you could easily mistake him as the protagonist when he's actually the deuteragonist. Both Mikitaka and Son Wukong are main characters, but Mikitaka is the protagonist.
Broly should probably just be the next G.o.D, maybe Beerus gets wiped by zeno for some reason or something. This way, broly can be the goal post, while not necessarily being an enemy, and training w Goku like whis , and he can still unreasonably rage out and destroy
All speculative. Broly is a fan favorite why they made him canon and it did exceptionally well. The direction they take this could go anywhere as it is fiction, but I hope that he becomes an ace in the hole, only brought out in unwinnable odds. He needs to go his own way after trained to harness his power, find his reason in life then only come back to help as needed. The only logical alternative would be for him to take over as main protagonist; either replacing vegeta, goku or both. The guy went toe to toe with a fusion of two ss blues, trained under an angel for years and still pushed them all while being raised his entire life to reject his power and not master it.
Broly is the path to a new transformation. From what is a known quantity that would be ssj4. Broly is the closest to that ideal, assuming Whis teaches him control.
I would love to see Broly join the Z fighters as another awesome Saiyan warrior! I'm kind of sick seeing only Vegeta and Goku as the only Saiyans. Broly would be an amazing Ally to join the team. I could see how he would be an awesome asset in multi-universal threats.
broly is so dope! I definitely wanna see an actual arc with him being the main hero of that arc. maybe not completely surpassing ultra instinct or ultra ego cuz that power scaling past those levels is really just so not needed right now.
Broly never even properly trained and never had a real fight, if he does then it'd be ridiculous not to scale him up above everyone else at least temporarily.
@@iandubs4560 It's already been established why they are. Their potential is greater because saiyans lack what a half breed can utilized full to their potential. The only thing that gets in their way is their lack of fighting.
I wonder if their ever be a movie when broly as a good guy from another dimention other than being a android or clone. I often wonder why he wasn't wish to be more of a civil person not using his power for destruction and killing.
Broly would keep getting stronger, become a candidate to be the God of Destruction since goku and vegeta don't want the job and they just keep using him as a goal post because of that
Gohan has had the best teachers, broly however nah? In terms of getting stronger whilst fighting the biggest increase was clearly in the broly movie. Weaker than base vegeta to arguably even greater than ssjg gogeta levels against veterans…
@@seansean250 well duh. Broly was given the biggest opportunity for single battle growth in the series. I'm not saying Gohan is capable of the same, especially in an alternate universe where Saichoro never unlocked his potential, but it is fascinating how many things these two have in common.
Wow i never thought about this. Broly is like what goku could have been if it went south. This so interesting. Have him on more! He may be on to something!!!
Seems like anything that gets introduced that doesn't involve Goku and to a slight degree Vegeta, gets left behind. Planet Sadala, Goku vs Beerus rematch, the other universes, etc. Broly will probably be treated the same way unfortunately.
Something interesting I’ve realized is, Broly is significantly bigger than Goku, with Goku being taller than Vegeta, even in his base form. I wonder if growing up on a different planet, with giant creatures, influenced that.
That last part about taming is definitely interesting to me. Recently it feels like the main cast are achieving ultimate forms of themselves so that they could become masters instead of students
"He was a true warrior, born with the strength and clout that would make most Saiyan fathers proud. But there was something far darker about him. Violent, threatening, and in time it began to scare me. I had no choice but to have a scientist craft a device that would control his power." Paragus quote about Broly
That was non cannon
@@dominicank1ng566 who cares it was still awsome
@@dominicank1ng566 it was cannon to the movie it happened in
@@dominicank1ng566 no body cares if it's non cannon it still was cool I like dbz broly better than dbs broly
Clout? 😂
Broly definitely isn’t going to die. He has so much room for growth both power wise and character development. It would be a missed opportunity for him to not join the main cast. I hope he gets a whole arc to himself where he develops his own unique controlled form to overcome a powerful adversary through calming himself
LSSJ4 is the perfect thing for him, the mastery of his ozaru prowess
Ever since they’ve rebooted Broly in DBS, I can’t get enough of the guy. Broly’s character is rather wholesome when calm and his overall feats are purely insane.
I firmly believe that the next objective is to hone himself, with Goku as his mentor, so he will no longer become a liability.
I hope they do more with Broly in future arcs he has so much potential
They will give him a push but not too much . If they made him train with the same consistency as Goku and Vegeta he would outshine them entirely
@@Supreme0757 this
@Makoto Amamiya Two words. Like Gohan
@@Supreme0757 Broly would out shine them. Broly did that in dbs Broly the movie.
We only live physically once so we shouldn’t be afraid to do anything bro, i smoke weed on my UA-cam channel and i ate Mcdonald’s inside Walmart, screw anyones opinion brotha mane☺️
Unlike those Nistolgic Norms. I’m going by Broly’s offical green hair transformation name. Full Power Super Saiyan Broly
Love the thoughtfulness. You got me excited to watch Super Broly again and excited for the future of this character. If it was another story I would think that Broly would die but the fact that it’s Dragon Ball makes me think that he will hang around until the end of the story just like all the other side characters.
its a fun film!
Broly is essentially the chosen one of his race and his genes are the rarest only seen every 1000 years. His Saiyan power is immeasurably magnified that his first Super Saiyan form is estimated at 500x his base, compared to 50x base which genetically applies to every other super saiyan including Gohan, Vegeta, Goku etc. He is an anomaly and the embodiment of Saiyan power in its purest form. He is a phenom like no other.
Where is it mentioned that his ssj form grants x500?
I need the source
Source: trust me bro
All those multipliers are no longer applicable. They were all thrown out the window, pretty much by the end of the cell saga.
I'm pretty sure this is what every dragon ball fan has done at least once, HEAD CANNON.
Geekdom, check his previous Broly content. Makes sense when not even post ToP SSB Goku & Vegeta together could hurt him when he became Super Saiyan. Hence why they were to forced to fuse.
Broly is basically the Hulk of DB. Can't wait to see what they do with him in the Future
Pretty much Broly is Hulk and Jiren is Red Hulk in DB lol
@@mandaniel95 that’s a way too accurate comparison
@Batman The You clearly don’t know know shit about hulks character 🤦🏻♂️
@Batman The Wait what? Hulk doesn't get more powerful. Thats Hulks whole persona, the angrier the Hulk the more powerful he become, the whole point the dude was making is that both Hulk and Broly are giant raging monsters that get stronger and stronger.
@Batman The You clearly don’t read comics, let alone know anything about Hulk. Please rewatch all Hulk movies (if you even have) starting with 2003 Hulk and grab a few Hulk comics or watch Comicstorian’s channel on Hulk comics before you speak nonsense.
Has anyone ever noticed the similarities broly has with the hulk?, I think his character was inspired by the hulk which is pretty cool.
Yes, I spoke on this in one of his videos and got flak for it.
Like how Goku's story in z is inspired by superman's. Alien being sent to earth as a baby because his planet was being destroyed. Bardock was also originally a scientist like how superman's dad was. You can also kinda compare zod and his team to Vegeta, nappa, and raditz.
Broly was definitely inspired by the hulk..powerful and triggered by rage with green aura
People been noticed that back when the old broly movie came out
Literally everyone has made this comparison since Brolys original appearance.
I think if piccolo is able to use orange piccolo whenever I think it be super cool to see him and goku have some nice training fights. Besides maybe some bs filler in super leading up to TOP goku hasnt been able to seriously train with piccolo since the android saga.
I hope piccolo can continue to get stronger in his orange form and gohan in his beast form I’m honestly hyped to see what they do with these form’s
I wanna see piccolo finally fight vegeta
I wasn't sure if I would, but I really like these Saiyuki episodes you've been doing! I enjoy really understanding why characters are written how they are, the ideology behind their creation, etc. Good job! Way to have great reach in a semi-niche area 💪💯
Anyone else noticed that Broly has probably never had water his entire life.
I think Baa was the crux to Brolys innocence and I think Brolys story about Baa and Limos comment backs this up after Broly had told Limo and Cheelai the story behind the item draped around Brolys waist which Limo after the fact would state "I think that's the most innocent thing I've heard in a while" or something along those lines and the reason why Paragus would cut the relationship off completely foreseeing the outcome of the two having that said relationship being a hindrance to Paraguses plains for revenge.
Super broly taming Ba was a metaphor to express the idea of broly being a person who instantly "tamed himself" or his ego. Conflict in dragon ball is always an example of conflicting ideals with oneself or others, each character gains strength by knowing themselves better through conflict and becoming a single entity between their external and internal states. Broly never wanted to pursue battle, he was never conflicted within himself but was forced to by his father. He had achieved a very natural state of enlightenment or single mindedness early in his life. He was able to tap into the great ape form with-ought transforming because that represents him as a character, he dosent see a difference between his external (sayian/human like) state and his internal(ideal/idenitty) self created state which is why he is so strong. The source behind his greatest strength was also that of his greatest weakness. Him being very naturally inclined towards wholeness and integration as a child left him isolated and in a perptually fixed state. His ego or his ideal was left un-challeged which was perfectly embodied by his tyrannical father.
I loved this video so much! Gave me a greater appreciation of Toriyama’s work. I should definitely read Journey to the West.
From another Jordan Lee myself, I will praise the effort put into this video with Geekdom101 :)
Having Broly become the strongest character of the story would be a good way to end Z. Go past Z with Broly being the main focus and maybe going back to Earth or acting as protector for universe 7 from planet Beerus.
idk if it would but u already know they’re gonna end it with Goku
Him and gohan would be great
Or he can really just be the strongest protector of his own planet..
Mmmm no. Im sorry but no
He already is the strongest. His base form rivals SSB, which is ridiculous imo.
It all depends on Akira. He could further develop Broly and continue to make him the strongest by training through the Saga's or he Gohan him, it all depends. Broly is like the saiyan equivalent of Frieza, a true mutant. I could see a World War Hulk style saga with Broly, if he controls his rage and then something tragic happens, he transforms and nobody can stop him.
Love your vids bro 👏
You always been my number 1 UA-camr creator and keep making the Dragon ball community the best community
Broly. The guy that scales up as the main characters do. Be broly. Don’t be hit. Don’t be yamcha.
Just a cool reminder, Broly literally survived on Vampa by drinking the blood of his enemies (remember he never had water by the time of the first movie).
Awesome video bro 👍🏾
😩🍆 video ain’t even been out 2 minutes
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I love dragon ball super and the direction that it's going I hope that they keep making it but I also love the idea of old school Broly from Z where he's just a Mindless straight up monster blowing through everybody so I really hope they fix an idea of Broly being an ally but keeps going berserk and then keeps becoming a half villain or at least a good plot convenience for an awesome fight
He was never mindless until bio-broly. Even in the second movie he still was capable of thinking he just was dead set on killing whatever challenger came into contact with him.
If dragonball franchise where to ever do an official spin off they should definitely do it with Broly and his friends going on an adventure of self discovery as I don’t feel Broly should rely on Goku & Vegeta as sources of mentorship. Broly must find a way to control his power & anger in his own way.
Scary thing about broly is he has hella KI plus Stamina an his regular physical strength is unreal dude got an OP Qq Bang 🤣💯🔥
I kinda wished that he found a way off of Vampa sooner, trained on multiple worlds, learned several techniques, and developed his saiyan abilities. The way things are going on now, it will be a while before we see Broly in action with the incredible power we know he can unleash.
i can’t see anyway of him finding a way off that planet
@@vampir3sbl00d He would have to put up a shield to protect himself from the cold. As for the oxygen, he can hold his breath. Finding a nearby planet would with require sensing ki or his father could use the navigational system from the ship. If he can construct a shock collar that can pump a bolt of electricity with a single push of a button that lasted for over a decade, he could’ve tore out the ship’s navigational system and used it to find another planet.
@@imjustadog1897 old DBZ Broly was able to use a barrier, i don’t think DBS Broly can
@@vampir3sbl00d He uses it when Gogeta uses his star fall barrage(whatever you call it) and Broly uses his barrier. He actually uses it right after his super saiyan transformation.
The way Broly's character is. He needs to meet Gohan. Their personalities are a lot alike. I think it's cool that he has a good thing going with Goku and Vegeta but, I see a really solid brotherly relationship that could happen between he and Gohan. They could be the perfect training partners, Broly could see what it's like living with friends and family by seeing Gohan's life, Gohan would have someone else with immense potential to train with and more. Even Piccolo has things he could teach to Broly. We could see Broly's personality really flourish and grow through these two. Just seeing Broly interact with all the other Z fighters as friends is a really touching thought. This man would go from being raised alone to having an entire fleet of friends who care for him, which would make any raging moments he would have that much more intense.🔥🤌🏾😩🥲
Great Video
Imagine a villain so strong that they need broly to step in, and he is taken out(near death), how crazy would his zenkai boost be!?
Broly is going to be the next U6 God of Destruction.
“So why does Goku use the gravity chamber this arc?”
“Well you see in journey to the west…”
The whole “is broly gonna be the strongest or is he gonna die” has been a point in my mind for awhile now. He’s my favorite character and I want the best for him, that’s why I say he needs to be nerfed. I feel like the best way to do it would be to have broly’s power reset every time he rages; I.E. after his fight in earth, when he was back on vampa in his base, he was only a bit stronger than when he first started off (cause of zenkais). Then you could say that broly still needs to train to get his base power up and the higher his base is, the less time it takes for his power to grow to the godly state it was. I feel like it’s necessary because he might die or arguably worse, get gohan-ed. he needs a nerf to keep him from becoming this overwhelming force that trivializes all fights and power-cliffs every fight.
It’ll also work because it gives broly his own unique fighting style outside of just “fighting like a wild animal”. His gimmick being that if he can stall out a fight long enough he’ll win. Like 18 when she fought vegeta, except backwards. That and I also feel like he can be the guy who takes on all the fodder, he’s a massive tank that can survive a lot and deal back even more. Just like how goku is most entertaining when he’s in the back foot and vegeta when he’s dominating, I feel like broly is the most entertaining when he’s rampaging and beating people down which works perfect for a bunch of nameless fighters who just need to be dealt with.
Yooo your onto something ngl
a simple way to do it is he can only grow stronger if he's in rage mode and now that Goku has taught him control he no longer has access to that infinite power growth during a fight. that only happens when he completely loses it which now wont happen as often. that would make it so he keeps up with everyone else without always being the strongest.
@Batman The what.
@Batman The what do you mean he’s weaker than ssj2
Took the exact thoughts right outta my mind 👌🏽
Broly got the best team surrounding him. He got Whis, Beerus, Goku, Vegeta, old supreme Kai… ect. Broly will be around long term and I’d don’t know why we have to either have broly end up being the strongest or dying at the end of the series. Broly ain’t a mindless warrior, he enjoys a good fight but he’s not going out his way looking for it like goku is lol.
I just think we won’t see broly really be used in battles for a good while. He’ll pop up in the series to show progress but i don’t they will use him for any battles until the stakes called for it. Broly is like dropping a nuke as last resort and from what I see. They don’t need the Nuke yet, Goku and friends are doing just fine. But goku doesn’t progressively find stronger opponents so it’s only a matter of time.
He’s the sayian that Beerus should be fighting. The one that The Oracle Fish told him about thirty-nine years before he took a long cat nap and woke up thinking about it. 🤞🏼💯
It's going to be so hard to fit broly into Dragon Ball super, the only thing I can think of that make sense is this. Some how the manage to a close relationship between King Vegeta, Bardock, and Paragus. Then make it so that it ties to why they died or if they tried to accomplish something in betraying frieza Idk. I like the reference of Son Wukong I'm learning more and more about each time you make these videos
The original Broly was basically Goku’s own Akuma.
He's canonizing super Saiyan 4 only for Broly
Amazing video 👍
Broly the Hulk of DragonBall
I remember this dude. He was just some random dude who got on you q&a or whatever and put all these ideas together
Anyone else think Gohan's hair in his new form looks stupid? It's not proportionate to the rest of him.
I think once it is drawn in manga form, it will look more proportional
I think it will be drawn to be a bit longer than SSJ2 hair, with more spikier hair..
@@D2TD4Life I hope so. I don't want Gohan to get the shaft again lol
Why are you guys saying Broly has never been properly trained? His father was Paragus, a Colonel in the Saiyan Army. He trained Broly but not like Goku and Vegeta have been trained. He doesn't know how to control his power, but he has the skill to quickly learn while on the battlefield. Probably something he learned from his father. His ability to grow stronger while he fights and also draw power from his Ape form is a phenomenon. But, he does have training. Maybe we can nuance the type of training he has had and not dismiss it. Maybe he can teach Goku and Vegeta a lesson or two...
The narrative is saying the training broly received is meaningless so yes technically he hasn’t been trained….
Personally rather than dying I think he's more likely to just aim to be strong enough to secure a peaceful life style and then just "retire". He seems to be someone who wants to be left alone and fight only to protect those he cares for.
In the OG version He's born on the same day as Goku, in the Mornern Story He around closer to Vegeta's age I hope 15+ years from now we get another version of Broly movie
my favorite part of the broly scene was when whis tells him to observe Goku and Vegeta trained... and he showed a fantastic "shyt-eating grin"
that got my gears turning... 😏
I'm excited that broly hasn't been forgotten I loved og broly fo hi strength but super broly is the character I always wanted them to do with I'm back then
People shouldn’t be so short sighted and think That Broly is going to hold a candle to Goku going forward.
Most villains that Goku faces become a friend. They all are as powerful as he is, many with way less training (Frieza is a decent example). And even though those powerful villains are now on the sidelines as a friend, none of them have any narrative weight or strength. Broly will be bo different. People fanboy out and forgot that this happens every other arc.
U R definitely the smartest commentator. Broly will get Nerfed and the Broly Fanboys will be butt hurt lol.
Well I really wish they would use him.. but all precedent shows that he isnt going to be a part of ANYTHING.
Frieza trained for a month or two, skipped by SS1,2,3& God form and was stronger than Blue. Where’s he at?
Buu more powerful than SS3 goku, where’s he at?
Picollo was stronger than Goku in Db, and got sidelined. THEN, he passed by Goku twice, where’s he at?
Broly is now just more comic relief on the sidelines. It’s weird to me that people keep thinking these bad-guys-turned-good are going to be a special part of the narrative going forward.
Broly got beat. He’s done. It’s over.
Hell,
Roshi, krillain, tien, YAMCHA, Vegeta, Android 18…
All these people were once POWERFUL, end of the world villains, that came over to the Z fighters’ side… and nothing.
Broly is going to be nothing. He’s just someone to make Beerus jealous. I hope we get. Beerus-Rocky montage. Where he works out ti Eye of the Tiger
Broly was holding the candle damn near the whole movie 1v2 both blue vegeta and goku and force them to fuse and then made them use blue straight up skipping god with NO TRAINING
@@DopeBoyy1017
I agree. Broly schooled them. He made them look like little girls.
I’m strictly taking to a comment made in the video that Broly would take over as the main character or die… there is ZERO chance of him keeping up with Goku going forward.
I’m not saying I want that. Or that his movie didn’t prove blah blah blah. There’s just ALWAYS people that get brought in, and they all amount to zero
This video is on point 💪 thank you 🙏
I think Broly was introduced to replace Beerus at the end instead of vegeta to become the God of Destruction
This now also explains where the creator got the idea for the form and transformation in Legend: A DragonBall Tale, especially as he looks like he took a ton of inspiration from WuKong or the monkey King in Goku's super saiyan transformation and also why Vegeta kinda says his is wild and needs more refining 👌🏿👌🏿👌🏿
This series and all the fan spin offs are always some awesome and interesting thoughts and ideas
Also love Jordan's DragonBall spin off as well 🙏🏿🙏🏿
I really appreciate that
man i love this talks/analysis of DB content. I really really hope to see more of broly now that he is not a bad guy also he is training and learning to control his power.
Son Wukong character was so active in journey to the west you could easily mistake him as the protagonist when he's actually the deuteragonist. Both Mikitaka and Son Wukong are main characters, but Mikitaka is the protagonist.
Broly should probably just be the next G.o.D, maybe Beerus gets wiped by zeno for some reason or something. This way, broly can be the goal post, while not necessarily being an enemy, and training w Goku like whis , and he can still unreasonably rage out and destroy
The future of dragonball is
Broly
Uub
Pan
Here…
All speculative. Broly is a fan favorite why they made him canon and it did exceptionally well. The direction they take this could go anywhere as it is fiction, but I hope that he becomes an ace in the hole, only brought out in unwinnable odds. He needs to go his own way after trained to harness his power, find his reason in life then only come back to help as needed. The only logical alternative would be for him to take over as main protagonist; either replacing vegeta, goku or both. The guy went toe to toe with a fusion of two ss blues, trained under an angel for years and still pushed them all while being raised his entire life to reject his power and not master it.
feel like when it comes to training it'll be Goku and Vegeta vs Broly and Gohan. That way they all get stronger and we might get a fusion vs fusion!?
All 3 of them have to face the ultimate villain before anyone of them dies and I mean grand priest level threat
I used your Bloodline code, thanks bruv
Broly is the path to a new transformation. From what is a known quantity that would be ssj4. Broly is the closest to that ideal, assuming Whis teaches him control.
I would love to see Broly join the Z fighters as another awesome Saiyan warrior! I'm kind of sick seeing only Vegeta and Goku as the only Saiyans. Broly would be an amazing Ally to join the team. I could see how he would be an awesome asset in multi-universal threats.
This is incredible
Broly was feared by the king himself as a new born, his power is very pure.
I hope we can get a broly thats more civil and has some more power
Great intro 🎉
Beast Gohan>Broly>Incomplete Cell Max>Jiren. Jiren fanboys need to accept he's absolute fodder to current characters.
Bro Goku was Not tamed he hit his frickin head and had amnesia wtf lol
The truth about Broly is that he slaps Jiren 😎
I really hope Broly becomes the first SSJ4 in canon
No, just no.
@@iandubs4560 yes, just yes i can't wait for that to happen!!& 🥳
@@Littlerascal454 Assuming it does happen cause that would be clean
broly is so dope! I definitely wanna see an actual arc with him being the main hero of that arc. maybe not completely surpassing ultra instinct or ultra ego cuz that power scaling past those levels is really just so not needed right now.
Broly never even properly trained and never had a real fight, if he does then it'd be ridiculous not to scale him up above everyone else at least temporarily.
Broly should definitely overcome everyone and be the strongest
THIS! Dumbest thing in DB IMHO is the fact that hAlFlInGs aRe mOrE pOwErFuL tHaN fUlL bLoOd sAiYaNs.
buT gOhAn...
@@iandubs4560 It's already been established why they are. Their potential is greater because saiyans lack what a half breed can utilized full to their potential. The only thing that gets in their way is their lack of fighting.
This is why I don’t think Broly would ever get a new form. It’ll be too overpowering
Still waiting for uub to make an appearance
Should've read the Moro arc
I wonder if their ever be a movie when broly as a good guy from another dimention other than being a android or clone. I often wonder why he wasn't wish to be more of a civil person not using his power for destruction and killing.
Broly the reason cell max acted all wild and couldn’t control his power.
With friezas getting that power up, honestly it seems that broly will be the one to bring him down
I feel like DBS Broly is also inspired by DCs Doomsday. Hes a mutant of the same race as the main character and adapts as he fights in real time.
I hope Broly still have his tail under ba I think he does and that he can go
Ssj4
Didnt his dad cut it off?
Paragus cut it off.
But Gohan has more potential technically
Broly would keep getting stronger, become a candidate to be the God of Destruction since goku and vegeta don't want the job and they just keep using him as a goal post because of that
the guy forget that Goku truns into tamed was because of crashing his head with rocks, Goku was a evil kid who wants to destroy earth originally
Hope he’s a villain again but a slow turn
7:48 the crazy thing is how much Gohan's ability to grow through combat was emphasized in a similar manner in the DBS Manga
Gohan has had the best teachers, broly however nah? In terms of getting stronger whilst fighting the biggest increase was clearly in the broly movie. Weaker than base vegeta to arguably even greater than ssjg gogeta levels against veterans…
@@seansean250 well duh.
Broly was given the biggest opportunity for single battle growth in the series.
I'm not saying Gohan is capable of the same, especially in an alternate universe where Saichoro never unlocked his potential, but it is fascinating how many things these two have in common.
@@priestesslucy yes 😃
@@seansean250 which is why Brohan is probably at the very top of my wish list for new DBS content lol
@@priestesslucy lol
Goku gunna keep giving Broly food to befriend him
12:22 your right if only Broly was a true Saiyan He would have killed his father when he tried to put a control collar on him.😂😂😂😂😂
Was anybody else not happy with the design initially? But seeing the trailer and then seeing the movie I love the look more and more.
Maybe broly will be a god of destruction candidate
Broly father give him proper training
Crazy how they downgraded bad from the old broly’a design
Wow i never thought about this. Broly is like what goku could have been if it went south. This so interesting. Have him on more! He may be on to something!!!
Broly is my favorite character
I feel like Gohan and Broly should fuse. Brohan.
The truth is that he is in fact stronger than jiren
I hope that broly eventually will become more aware and active with time and don’t make him another Majin bu
I wonder if broly has a son if he names him after his father.
In super hero he lives with beers and whis..so im excited for what they can and will do with broly
Seems like anything that gets introduced that doesn't involve Goku and to a slight degree Vegeta, gets left behind. Planet Sadala, Goku vs Beerus rematch, the other universes, etc. Broly will probably be treated the same way unfortunately.
Dying doesn't mean anything in Dragonball wish him back problems solved
Was that intro Qaaman inspired? Your voice sounded a bit like him at the end of the intro
Something interesting I’ve realized is, Broly is significantly bigger than Goku, with Goku being taller than Vegeta, even in his base form. I wonder if growing up on a different planet, with giant creatures, influenced that.
Cool story bro