Nightmare is making me love Protoss vs Terran again (haven't been as hyped about it the last few months compared to other matchups). ByuN also pretty cool i guess
No pin on yourself? There just havent been many good enjoyable protoss lately, sure die Mauer can be interesting to see hold the most bloody scrappy pushes from the highest players, but really we all just want Zest back, and PartinG (how's he doing by the way?), not just the yolo toss but balls so big they make you flinch on sight alone
Nightmare gave Buyn Nightmares. Tonight, he is gonna dream of hidden enemy bases, planetaries getting sieged while his army is nearby and still not able to drive the enemy away and failed timing builds. I hope there is no lasting emotional damage and he recovers soon.
One thing lately that sort of bothers me is the refusal to make a few tempests in the late game when Terran is on range liberators. It's like Protoss players at the pro level have collectively decided that it's just not worth it or something, even though tempests are basically the only practical counter once the range lib count gets too high for stalkers.
Agreed but practical maybe isn't the right term. They're super awkward to control and eat up a ton of cash and supply. especially since he already had disrupters, colossus, and storms, which is already tricky
watching the first game with a dozen medivacs without energy and all I can think is how much shit talk literally every caster had for the medivac energy upgrade
2nd game. Nightmare caught Byun. A mid game old school "4 gate strat." Time attack at door, keep pressure, prevent expo to any tech up. If Byun got the expo, 15 mules there then he's back in it.
imagine if HT had their feed back and storm combined into 1 spell, that did its damage immediately, they had a strong long range auto attack, could be healed, moved faster, were cheaper, could 1 shot units from 2 screens away went invisible, and oh yea they could drop a literal fucking nuke. but no tell me how protoss is op
Another liberator + viking match, same step, move forward liberator one after another can see already toss will spend twice the resource to try. Liberator 1 shot zealot is incredibly imbalance, no other other unit like terran unit. Disruptor is just easily snipe. 3 liberator can wipe 12 zealot in 4 seconds. Thats fastest 1200 mineral drain
What? Libs do 75 dmg base and +5 per upgrade, bringing it to 90dmg at +3 attack. Zealots have 100hp, 1 base armor and 50 shields. Where is the one shot coming from? Do you even check things before you complain about them?
Why are Protoss always the ones that come up with new strategies? And I mean ALWAYS. I swear that Terrans play the same build in 90% of the games, and then they do a cyclone all in in 10% of the cases these days.
To be fair, Protoss has the most unit types and the widest available tech tree early. Also, they never seem to win anything, so they have to try something new.
@@joshgoulash4889 The real reason why terrans never come up with anything new is because MMM is so strong and dominating that it's counter-productive to use anything else. Not to mention that those units pretty much never got any nerfs or changes.
Literally just because protoss have the most variability Terran get chokeholded by the 1/1/1 and needing more gas for their production than others Protoss can do just about whatever they want and can chrono their tech'd buildings Zerg.. well zerg just exist, it's either defensive roaches, economy, or have to go to the very end of their tech tree
@@PJOZeus That's another way of saying that protoss has no universally reliable composition like MMM that can take on anything. The fact that they NEED the variation is not an advantage. And when the enemy figures it out early it's already a disadvantage. But MMM always has the potential to defeat anything and often makes insane comebacks even when protoss gains an advantage and bigger army.
@Leonhart_93 Honestly, the best way to nerf mmm without making it unviable is to weaken medivacs healing or speed to make it a less catch all speed damage and tankiness.
Love your vids !! Thank you !! just an opinion that you may want to consider, cast another one and a little bit better is really getting old :) Just a thought! Still love your vids ! I am subscribed and giving thumbs up!
Love your casting, but you should really let the professional observer do the work if any action is going on. Unless that was the esl observer in which case I am dissapointed
Please stop saying it exist something like NEW build and new strategy in SC2. Until they put real news building, tech and unit It is all lies and Clickbait! UA-camr be like : oh he put is gateway at 0:39 rather than 0:37 that a COMPLETE NEW BUILD we've NEVER seen before!! lol... hidden nexus new strategy!?? lol that is a bronze league strategy!
Really Winter... You don't have to find such titles for your videos. I'd watch it anyway with only the player's names and competition. If everything is incredible, nothing is.
Nightmare is making me love Protoss vs Terran again (haven't been as hyped about it the last few months compared to other matchups). ByuN also pretty cool i guess
I like your shirt
Did you edit the thumbnail 3 times within the hour?!?!?! I liked the 1500 hp 3 armor 0 fucks one
No pin on yourself?
There just havent been many good enjoyable protoss lately, sure die Mauer can be interesting to see hold the most bloody scrappy pushes from the highest players, but really we all just want Zest back, and PartinG (how's he doing by the way?), not just the yolo toss but balls so big they make you flinch on sight alone
It's been 14 years and I only just learn that you can archon warp with 2 different types of templar
well, some very gifted players are destined to sit in bronze for their entire life.
@@Higurashika Winter, they're bullying Terrans in the comments :(
fauna enjoyer in winters channel
"He's not EMPing his medivacs, he needs to go to rehab" LMAO
ByuN is 100% a positional chess player in an alternate universe
Nightmare gave Buyn Nightmares. Tonight, he is gonna dream of hidden enemy bases, planetaries getting sieged while his army is nearby and still not able to drive the enemy away and failed timing builds. I hope there is no lasting emotional damage and he recovers soon.
Nightmare's had some fumbles but at least its been interesting tracking him! Also impressed by Classic's recent PvZ
i feel like protoss players are starting to really level up recently, obviously they were great before, but they are looking very clean recently.
The best SC2 commentary on YT 👍 Played only campaign, but watching and listening this is great.
Your videos have made me come back to this wonderful game again! Well, let's see what else I'm good for after 5 years 😁
Friendship with Hero is over, Nightmare is my new best friend.
It's become extra interesting to see ByuN face off against toss ever since his TvZ became hyper-popular
Never seen a game where caduceus reactor would have been more useful!
YES A NEW VIDEO IS OUT! Have to clean my apartment for a few hours, so this is great, thanks so much winter!
Nightmare’s high templars need to meet with Classics’ to learn how to more effectively storm.
19:08 - there's a whole Ass-Nexus
"Words, what do they even mean?"😂👍
new thumbnail : RISKY FRISKY FRUITY strategy byun vs dark
The planetary stay alive till the end !!!
We appreciate all the 40k references Winter
Love watching some Byun before bed!
Byun must be thinking that he is getting stuck in a stall mate to the end, so he just tap out to start fresh play.
NightMare has recently been my favorite player to watch. It's great seeing people fumble to respond to him
One thing lately that sort of bothers me is the refusal to make a few tempests in the late game when Terran is on range liberators. It's like Protoss players at the pro level have collectively decided that it's just not worth it or something, even though tempests are basically the only practical counter once the range lib count gets too high for stalkers.
Agreed but practical maybe isn't the right term. They're super awkward to control and eat up a ton of cash and supply. especially since he already had disrupters, colossus, and storms, which is already tricky
Terran vs protoss, "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power!"
I dont know who will win but NightMare is my new favorite player right now.
been watching since 1001 likes. I dont even play SC2 anymore, but love to see your videos
Once again I am asking for a raise for Jimmy! I will like and subscribe once his hard work is recognized!
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Byun repair 🤖
May the algorithm bless this day 1 of the new year of likes progression.
watching the first game with a dozen medivacs without energy and all I can think is how much shit talk literally every caster had for the medivac energy upgrade
Please like or we won’t get another video 🙌
The best caster out there!
Winter you always have good commentary!!
Looking forward to this game. Nightmare has been impressive lately
Let's Go Jimmy!, Winter casting sc2 🎉🎉 and this day as all days winter casts are far better than if he does not
2nd game. Nightmare caught Byun. A mid game old school "4 gate strat." Time attack at door, keep pressure, prevent expo to any tech up. If Byun got the expo, 15 mules there then he's back in it.
49:30 what's up with the supply depot ?
I pronounce alcyone like hermione because it makes me feel sophisticated
that second game was - well not epic but so tense and entertaining Thanks winter for your work made my day - kinda - while i should do my taxes lol ;)
Thanks for the video Winter! made my day : )
I approve this message! I STILL DEMAND MORE NIGHTMARE!
That planetary repair is costing Byun too much. Bullets and laser shots are free, but repairs are not.
imagine if HT had their feed back and storm combined into 1 spell, that did its damage immediately, they had a strong long range auto attack, could be healed, moved faster, were cheaper, could 1 shot units from 2 screens away went invisible, and oh yea they could drop a literal fucking nuke. but no tell me how protoss is op
"this isn't Canada" HAHAH
Winter has ruined all other SC2 commentary for me, he’s so damn good 😂
Wonder how that would have turned out with tempest instead of disruptors
When is the next LOW APM challenge?!!
IMO Byun give up game too early. He lost a battle then gg.
My thermal lance is fully extended
Another liberator + viking match, same step, move forward liberator one after another can see already toss will spend twice the resource to try. Liberator 1 shot zealot is incredibly imbalance, no other other unit like terran unit. Disruptor is just easily snipe. 3 liberator can wipe 12 zealot in 4 seconds. Thats fastest 1200 mineral drain
What? Libs do 75 dmg base and +5 per upgrade, bringing it to 90dmg at +3 attack.
Zealots have 100hp, 1 base armor and 50 shields. Where is the one shot coming from? Do you even check things before you complain about them?
why he never use archons like archons compliment zealots so much when it comes to bio balls
He did make them maybe watch the video again.
1500 likes in 20 hours. Phew this is a close one. Soon it really might come down to the wire on the likes
Every Protoss army composition feels useless against Terran, especially if they have The Cheat.
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nightmare is my new favorite player tied with serral
Nice
Are you actually disturbed tho
What do likes do for a channel?
Hi Jimmy
Okay then how about pronouncing it Alk-1?
Protoss is op.
Storm needs nerfed or removed
Soup 14
I love how many times you referred to very much so not zealot units on both sides as zealots
Why are Protoss always the ones that come up with new strategies? And I mean ALWAYS. I swear that Terrans play the same build in 90% of the games, and then they do a cyclone all in in 10% of the cases these days.
To be fair, Protoss has the most unit types and the widest available tech tree early. Also, they never seem to win anything, so they have to try something new.
@@joshgoulash4889 The real reason why terrans never come up with anything new is because MMM is so strong and dominating that it's counter-productive to use anything else. Not to mention that those units pretty much never got any nerfs or changes.
Literally just because protoss have the most variability
Terran get chokeholded by the 1/1/1 and needing more gas for their production than others
Protoss can do just about whatever they want and can chrono their tech'd buildings
Zerg.. well zerg just exist, it's either defensive roaches, economy, or have to go to the very end of their tech tree
@@PJOZeus That's another way of saying that protoss has no universally reliable composition like MMM that can take on anything. The fact that they NEED the variation is not an advantage. And when the enemy figures it out early it's already a disadvantage.
But MMM always has the potential to defeat anything and often makes insane comebacks even when protoss gains an advantage and bigger army.
@Leonhart_93 Honestly, the best way to nerf mmm without making it unviable is to weaken medivacs healing or speed to make it a less catch all speed damage and tankiness.
am i the only one who feels protoss so weak agains terran?
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Love your vids !! Thank you !! just an opinion that you may want to consider, cast another one and a little bit better is really getting old :) Just a thought! Still love your vids ! I am subscribed and giving thumbs up!
Zerg > Terran > Protoss. Getting boring.
Disruptors are useless
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"Alcyone" (Ale-kai-one)💯
Honestly I'm extremely bored of TvP at this point. P is just so weak in comparison it's not even interesting to watch.
Love your casting, but you should really let the professional observer do the work if any action is going on. Unless that was the esl observer in which case I am dissapointed
Please stop saying it exist something like NEW build and new strategy in SC2. Until they put real news building, tech and unit It is all lies and Clickbait! UA-camr be like : oh he put is gateway at 0:39 rather than 0:37 that a COMPLETE NEW BUILD we've NEVER seen before!! lol... hidden nexus new strategy!?? lol that is a bronze league strategy!
you know why I hate when you cast? everyfucking time clickbait names. new strat nexus', when where. I aint falling for it again. take care
Protoss so weak
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Really Winter... You don't have to find such titles for your videos. I'd watch it anyway with only the player's names and competition.
If everything is incredible, nothing is.