Thought I was letting go of this whole thing in healthy way....apparently I forgot a ton of key points to recovery....Back in the saddle again😅Not in danger, not dangerous....fear and uncomfortable is not dangerous.....( repeat, repeat🙈)....
Thank you for saying this . I feel so relieved when someone told me he is also going thru waves because of work , I was like you must be kidding me . Also , thank you for saying safe . Thank you . Sometimes , just reminded that it is nervous brain . Or flight and fight is doing it . Instead just let it be there . Thanks
What about if there is some underlying trauma that even someone didn't aware of? Will anxiety come back again and again if that is not resolved? Maybe there is some wrong behavioral paterns that is put us there in the first place. By the way great podcast! 👍
My thoughts in reply to that is that if you practice non resistance when anxious and if you show yourself through experience that you can tolerate the discomfort/distress and move to the otherside of competency and eventually sensations subsiding, any underlying trauma that you don't recall won't matter because you have already shown yourself there is no danger/threat. But if trauma is something you do know about and is making it harder to recover because of the safety aspect that you challenge with this approach, then resolving it before or at the same time with exposure might be a consideration. Depends on circumstances.
My biggest issue is i once started to do the things for my agoraphobia. started practicing going out and so on. and it got worse and symptoms got worse. now since then im hiding again. Now i get this symptoms that get really scary like waking up with like band around my heart or such a void in my stomach its unreal. And since im kind of used to them they are not inducing anxiety but really uncertanty what if there is something wrong with my health or not. then i forget about it till i notice it again. and next day the cylce starts again My biggest uncertanty is i never got checked out by a doctor because of my agoraphobia. so i never know and im constantly afraid to try some things again.. its a constant cycle of thinking something is wrong with my health.
You just have to get up, get out and say “oh well, if I die today, I die.” I know it sounds bad but you have to get out of that fear of dying. That helped me so much.
@@Sirie7206 yeah i used to be able to think that way when i started practicing but i think you are right i have to loose my fear of death i think so i can move forward so if i had no fear of death there wouldn’t be anything holding me back
@@iex0diaIts normal to fear death. I don't think many go out thinking, well if l die, l die. Our survival mechanism is too strong and of course we care. But its what you do while you care. A motto perhaps better is: face it and see. Go out and see how capable you are. Practice while feeling those sensations. Practice and try and lose your resistance to those feelings. Rag doll it when you are living with those sensations. Show yourself whether they are important or not. Accept they are there and surrender to them being there. It is a leap of faith but if you don't try, you remain stuck.
@@iex0dia I’m a realist and like to face my challenges and obstacles head on. I told myself that I’m not a fearful person. And pushed through when I didn’t know what the hell was going on with me. This approach doesn’t work for everyone.
Really informative and helpful video, I guess my roadblock in recovery is accepting the diagnosis of doctors that it is anxiety and not any other health condition as my trigger is always mental fatigue. For most of the others I have seen anxiety is about excess energy (adrenaline ) but I feel the oppsosite lack of energy which triggers panic sensations.
In the context I am working in, anxiety isn't about any particular "energy level". Its about being extremely worried and afraid of your anxiety level, regardless of the level itself. People dealing with these issues are highly intolerant of their own bodies and minds and often wind up interpreting states like "low energy" as a disaster.
@@TheAnxiousTruth Thanks for the reply , So the way I understand this is something as normal as "low energy" is being interpreted as catastrophic by someone with anxiety issues.
I have a question can I take Ibuprofen and Tylenol during the recovery because I'm not on any medication and I don't want to be. but I just want to make sure that's not going to interfere in my recovery. The pain in my neck is so severe I cannot stand it it makes my anxiety worse and I have the pain from my anxiety because of my head pressure and tightness in my head.
I cannot - nor should someone on the Internet with no medical qualifications and no knowledge of your specific situation - make suggestions or tell you what to do with regard to taking even over the counter medications. I can say that recovery does not mean "enduring pain". There's pain, then there's being afraid of pain. Do your best to see the difference and the point where you are reacting to pain because you not only dislike it but also fear it.
Hi Drew. Just curious as to what your thoughts are regarding anxiety and secure attachment? That all anxiety is a form of separation anxiety and that a lot of anxiety issues stem from not feeling a safe secure attachment in life. Thanks for any input on this topic.
I kinda hate how attachment theory became the automatic go-to in wellness/insta-therapy circles in the last year or two. It suddenly gets applied to EVERYTHING for no good reason. That being said, if you see yourself as weak or incapable of handling challenges (which may or may not be part of lacking secure attachment) that can make one more vulnerable to developing an anxiety disorder because avoidance will become a default coping strategy. It can also make exposure-based treatment more challenging. However, I do not believe that all anxiety is a form of separation anxiety. There's literally no data to even remotely support that claim which tends to be based on what people think "sounds right", and far too many people that develop anxiety disorders that have zero identification with insecure attachment. Even people that would be assessed as securely attached develop these problems every day.
Thought I was letting go of this whole thing in healthy way....apparently I forgot a ton of key points to recovery....Back in the saddle again😅Not in danger, not dangerous....fear and uncomfortable is not dangerous.....( repeat, repeat🙈)....
Thank you for saying this . I feel so relieved when someone told me he is also going thru waves because of work , I was like you must be kidding me . Also , thank you for saying safe . Thank you . Sometimes , just reminded that it is nervous brain . Or flight and fight is doing it . Instead just let it be there . Thanks
What about if there is some underlying trauma that even someone didn't aware of? Will anxiety come back again and again if that is not resolved? Maybe there is some wrong behavioral paterns that is put us there in the first place. By the way great podcast! 👍
My thoughts in reply to that is that if you practice non resistance when anxious and if you show yourself through experience that you can tolerate the discomfort/distress and move to the otherside of competency and eventually sensations subsiding, any underlying trauma that you don't recall won't matter because you have already shown yourself there is no danger/threat. But if trauma is something you do know about and is making it harder to recover because of the safety aspect that you challenge with this approach, then resolving it before or at the same time with exposure might be a consideration. Depends on circumstances.
@@redflame2fireyes. You have right. I have been recovered from anxiety for two times before and it is like feel newborn. But it's coming back.
My biggest issue is i once started to do the things for my agoraphobia. started practicing going out and so on. and it got worse and symptoms got worse. now since then im hiding again.
Now i get this symptoms that get really scary like waking up with like band around my heart or such a void in my stomach its unreal. And since im kind of used to them they are not inducing anxiety but really uncertanty what if there is something wrong with my health or not. then i forget about it till i notice it again. and next day the cylce starts again
My biggest uncertanty is i never got checked out by a doctor because of my agoraphobia. so i never know and im constantly afraid to try some things again.. its a constant cycle of thinking something is wrong with my health.
You just have to get up, get out and say “oh well, if I die today, I die.” I know it sounds bad but you have to get out of that fear of dying. That helped me so much.
@@Sirie7206 yeah i used to be able to think that way when i started practicing but i think you are right i have to loose my fear of death i think so i can move forward so if i had no fear of death there wouldn’t be anything holding me back
@@iex0diaIts normal to fear death. I don't think many go out thinking, well if l die, l die. Our survival mechanism is too strong and of course we care. But its what you do while you care. A motto perhaps better is: face it and see. Go out and see how capable you are. Practice while feeling those sensations. Practice and try and lose your resistance to those feelings. Rag doll it when you are living with those sensations. Show yourself whether they are important or not. Accept they are there and surrender to them being there. It is a leap of faith but if you don't try, you remain stuck.
@@redflame2fire thats helpful thank you very much!
@@iex0dia I’m a realist and like to face my challenges and obstacles head on. I told myself that I’m not a fearful person. And pushed through when I didn’t know what the hell was going on with me. This approach doesn’t work for everyone.
Really informative and helpful video, I guess my roadblock in recovery is accepting the diagnosis of doctors that it is anxiety and not any other health condition as my trigger is always mental fatigue. For most of the others I have seen anxiety is about excess energy (adrenaline ) but I feel the oppsosite lack of energy which triggers panic sensations.
In the context I am working in, anxiety isn't about any particular "energy level". Its about being extremely worried and afraid of your anxiety level, regardless of the level itself. People dealing with these issues are highly intolerant of their own bodies and minds and often wind up interpreting states like "low energy" as a disaster.
@@TheAnxiousTruth Thanks for the reply , So the way I understand this is something as normal as "low energy" is being interpreted as catastrophic by someone with anxiety issues.
Thank you so much. Love you
You're very welcome. :-)
I have a question can I take Ibuprofen and Tylenol during the recovery because I'm not on any medication and I don't want to be. but I just want to make sure that's not going to interfere in my recovery. The pain in my neck is so severe I cannot stand it it makes my anxiety worse and I have the pain from my anxiety because of my head pressure and tightness in my head.
I cannot - nor should someone on the Internet with no medical qualifications and no knowledge of your specific situation - make suggestions or tell you what to do with regard to taking even over the counter medications. I can say that recovery does not mean "enduring pain". There's pain, then there's being afraid of pain. Do your best to see the difference and the point where you are reacting to pain because you not only dislike it but also fear it.
Hi Drew.
Just curious as to what your thoughts are regarding anxiety and secure attachment?
That all anxiety is a form of separation anxiety and that a lot of anxiety issues stem from not feeling a safe secure attachment in life.
Thanks for any input on this topic.
I kinda hate how attachment theory became the automatic go-to in wellness/insta-therapy circles in the last year or two. It suddenly gets applied to EVERYTHING for no good reason. That being said, if you see yourself as weak or incapable of handling challenges (which may or may not be part of lacking secure attachment) that can make one more vulnerable to developing an anxiety disorder because avoidance will become a default coping strategy. It can also make exposure-based treatment more challenging. However, I do not believe that all anxiety is a form of separation anxiety. There's literally no data to even remotely support that claim which tends to be based on what people think "sounds right", and far too many people that develop anxiety disorders that have zero identification with insecure attachment. Even people that would be assessed as securely attached develop these problems every day.
thank you drew for the info.
@@TheAnxiousTruth