First thing coming to mind is Titan, Saturns largest moon. It’s the only place you could mistake an earth landscape photo for. It’s cold but there are solutions. Titan may even be better than mars
@@combivent1000 yes and I’m sure with vehicle built on mars, they will have much better efficiency going anywhere else in the solar system. Earth is huge with high gravity and a thick atmosphere. Once rockets are built on mars or similar it will be game changing
@@abdul.r_i it will help though to not have to launch all the fuel, machines, and resources for your journey from earth. This will allow them to go faster and quicker to the outer system
The feasibility of Venus is a lot more tempting than you think. There is a zone in the Venusian atmosphere where the temperature is around where it is on Earth, and the air pressure is only somewhat above Earth's at sea level. This would make Earth air a lifting gas. The only obstacle would be finding construction materials that would not corrode in the atmosphere there. Also, returning from Venus to Earth might be a bit difficult.
It would also have the advantages of having lots of solar radiation to harvest for power (or even dipping a line down into Venus’s lower atmosphere to harvest some of it’s energy - also relying on more corrosion resistant materials).
We are going... What, do you think that a couple of those thousands planned starships won't be used for the moon and orbit payloads like the next generation of giant space telescopes? (Or even a giant telescope on the moon...) Of course they will be... But it's good to have ambitious, yet reachable goals.. like going to Mars and beyond. That's the whole point of the Starship project.. I reckon they could build a much simpler vehicle if the moon was the only goal. But aiming for the stars will in turn make a much more capable vehicle, even for the moon. People just like to nitpick at Elon, and sometimes the people may even be correct, but not in case of this kind of pseudo-intellectual logic. It's like saying, "why create aircraft when 99% of regular commutes can be done by a horse carriage". *DUCKING NEW FRONTIERS* that's why.
Moon, Mars, Ceres, Venus, Titan, then planet X, and from there, we can go Interstellar by then, hopefully by then we'll have the technology progressed enough to make the big jump.
No no, the clear next step is to start the terraformation. It is cool to go to Mars and such, but right now it is really just a cold dead red artic desert.
My concern with Terra forming Mars is that without a magnetic field any atmosphere we create will blow away in the solar wind. It's what we think happened to to it's original atmosphere, too.
@@appliedfacts Solution: placing an artificial satellite in the L1 point to produce a magnetic field and shield Mars from the solar wind, we'd only have to produce a relatively low magnetic field and keep the satellite in place
While floating cities on Venus are possible, would they make sense? if we want to explore Venus, I guess an orbital station with automated machines on the surface might be easier.
@@spooders8424 Yeah but I don't think he's talking about those moons since, by that logic, the moon also has a super thin atmosphere (or exosphere). So yeah, I believe he's talking about Titan, but it would be good if he actually showed a picture of Titan (it is actually one of my fav moons btw, the main reason being it orbits my fav planet Saturn, but also because it is Earthlike in some aspects)
After Mars, the best choice Is Titan. Same size of Mars, and an atmosphere. Rivers and seas of methane. Methane, perfect for Starship. Far, but not too far.
If by "go", you mean for a creating a long term human presence, not sure. Maybe Ceres is a good idea if many asteroids near it are prime targets for mining. Otherwise, we stop at Mars until we are capable of building space stations wherever we want. Then we've got to put one a safe distance from Jupiter as a launch platform for interstellar craft. If "go" includes robotic devices and short visits, then just lots of asteroid belt mining and space-based remotely-monitored green-house environments.
Perhaps Ceres either after Mars or even before it. The low gravity makes it easy to land and take off and there's water ice as well as minerals. And/or Vesta, especially if there's an interest in mining.
First, we have to make it worth going there. Going there just to go is folly. Mars will have to produce some return on the investment or suffer the fate of the Apollo program. … Forgotten.
Agreed. What do we want to do elsewhere that can't be done here? Star Trek VI: "just because we can do a thing, it does not necessarily mean we must do that thing."
@@RevGunn-jq3cq In fact, colonizing other planets require us to find tech to create habitable environments (be it terraforming or in domes or whatever) which could help fix Earth. We mustn't colonize space to escape Earth but to help it.
After Mars the interest becomes Economic and that means Resources. The obvious candidate for that is the asteroid belt. With minerals practically already mined, just find the right rock having the most of what you are looking,for and you'll be rich indeed. All the metal you could want for space stations on a grand scale. Thats the next venture.
that is a question for future travelers and not us to ask. The mars project will last 3 lifetimes and will take almost all our effort of trying not to kill each other to stay focused on one single project. lets face it... as a race we are collectively ADHD.
Everybody keep shasking where we came from, what I wanna know is, where are we going? It's speeding through space at 17500 miles per hour. Is there a sign up ahead that says stop space ends one mile ahead.
After colonizing Mars, we should double-down on exploiting the Moon. This likely requires nuclear fission electrical power to operate during the 14*24 hour night.
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First thing coming to mind is Titan, Saturns largest moon. It’s the only place you could mistake an earth landscape photo for. It’s cold but there are solutions. Titan may even be better than mars
About 7 years floating in space is no joke haha
@@abdul.r_i not unless you start launching rockets from mars then the distance will be shortened
@combivent1000 Earth to mars is roughly 6 month, making Mars to titan still 6 and a half to 7 years. Doesn't really help all that much
@@combivent1000 yes and I’m sure with vehicle built on mars, they will have much better efficiency going anywhere else in the solar system. Earth is huge with high gravity and a thick atmosphere. Once rockets are built on mars or similar it will be game changing
@@abdul.r_i it will help though to not have to launch all the fuel, machines, and resources for your journey from earth. This will allow them to go faster and quicker to the outer system
The feasibility of Venus is a lot more tempting than you think. There is a zone in the Venusian atmosphere where the temperature is around where it is on Earth, and the air pressure is only somewhat above Earth's at sea level. This would make Earth air a lifting gas. The only obstacle would be finding construction materials that would not corrode in the atmosphere there. Also, returning from Venus to Earth might be a bit difficult.
It would also have the advantages of having lots of solar radiation to harvest for power (or even dipping a line down into Venus’s lower atmosphere to harvest some of it’s energy - also relying on more corrosion resistant materials).
Titan is definitely top of the list.. radiation is a lot around it but on it the atmosphere is a good shield
@@KamalaChameleon no? Where did you get this info. Titan is well outside Saturns magnetosphere. And barely gets any solar radiation
The Belt
Ceres, using it as a staging post for further exploration
why not Titan?
How about we go to the moon?
we are, ever heard of the Artemis program?
@@WarbirdPOVwasn’t it delayed for the 5th time
Sounds like a project for Blue Origin or Boeing.
We are going... What, do you think that a couple of those thousands planned starships won't be used for the moon and orbit payloads like the next generation of giant space telescopes? (Or even a giant telescope on the moon...) Of course they will be...
But it's good to have ambitious, yet reachable goals.. like going to Mars and beyond.
That's the whole point of the Starship project.. I reckon they could build a much simpler vehicle if the moon was the only goal. But aiming for the stars will in turn make a much more capable vehicle, even for the moon.
People just like to nitpick at Elon, and sometimes the people may even be correct, but not in case of this kind of pseudo-intellectual logic. It's like saying, "why create aircraft when 99% of regular commutes can be done by a horse carriage". *DUCKING NEW FRONTIERS* that's why.
Agreed. After the surface of Mars, Iet's double-down on exploiting Phobos, Deimos and our own Moon.
Get to Mars before asking.. but still a great question
We'd have to find a way to survive the magnetic fields. Saturn and Jupiter's fields would kill us easily, they're that strong.
Maybe by then we could boldly go where no one has gone before 😮
Seems like The Expanse might end up a reality
Floating cities on Venus. Harvest CO2 (96%), H2 and the small amount of water vapor (0.002%) to produce CH4 for interplanetary fuel.
A five-year mission: to explore strange new worlds; to seek out new life and new civilizations; to boldly go where no man has gone before!
Moon, Mars, Ceres, Venus, Titan, then planet X, and from there, we can go Interstellar by then, hopefully by then we'll have the technology progressed enough to make the big jump.
No no, the clear next step is to start the terraformation. It is cool to go to Mars and such, but right now it is really just a cold dead red artic desert.
He means next planet/moon to go to. But ig that if we colonize Mars we'll eventually terraform it
My concern with Terra forming Mars is that without a magnetic field any atmosphere we create will blow away in the solar wind. It's what we think happened to to it's original atmosphere, too.
@@appliedfacts Solution: placing an artificial satellite in the L1 point to produce a magnetic field and shield Mars from the solar wind, we'd only have to produce a relatively low magnetic field and keep the satellite in place
@@appliedfacts Also it takes an extremely long time for it to be blown away, more than enough time for humanity to find a soultion.
@ThomasBriard
You may have a good point. A hundred thousand years (or whatever) would be worth getting done.
Mars isn't a done deal yet. Not even close.
If we had the atmosphere vacuum sucker from spaceballs then Venus could be made hospitable relatively quickly.
Mars is going to be tough enough.
Europa!
Asteroid belt then outer planet moons then floating cities on Venus. And then finally a interstellar trip once the solar system is our neighbourhood.
While floating cities on Venus are possible, would they make sense? if we want to explore Venus, I guess an orbital station with automated machines on the surface might be easier.
@@Edino_Chattino I don't think any machine would survive on the surface
Not "only a matter of time."
Time => entropy.
"A lot of hard work by smart people over time" is a less wrong statement.
We go on a great crusade across the galaxy
Where do we go? We build a self-sustaining presence on Mars and we go find out what's floating around in the asteroid belts.
I think we will set up a mining base on Ceres
Didn’t even bring up Titan? It’s literally a better option than mars if not so fat
He mentioned Titan. He did say, " one of them even has an atmosphere" clearly implying Titan
@PlanetaryExplorerwell it’s their fault for being lazy and leaving the shot of Europa and Jupiter in while they talk about another
@PlanetaryExplorerthey could also be referring to europa or Ganymede which both have extremely thin atmospheres
@@spooders8424 Yeah but I don't think he's talking about those moons since, by that logic, the moon also has a super thin atmosphere (or exosphere). So yeah, I believe he's talking about Titan, but it would be good if he actually showed a picture of Titan (it is actually one of my fav moons btw, the main reason being it orbits my fav planet Saturn, but also because it is Earthlike in some aspects)
Ceres is Smaller than our Moon not the the Size of Our Moon !
He said 'about half the sizeof our moon'. Have you really watched the vid?
After Mars, the best choice Is Titan. Same size of Mars, and an atmosphere. Rivers and seas of methane. Methane, perfect for Starship. Far, but not too far.
If by "go", you mean for a creating a long term human presence, not sure. Maybe Ceres is a good idea if many asteroids near it are prime targets for mining. Otherwise, we stop at Mars until we are capable of building space stations wherever we want. Then we've got to put one a safe distance from Jupiter as a launch platform for interstellar craft.
If "go" includes robotic devices and short visits, then just lots of asteroid belt mining and space-based remotely-monitored green-house environments.
Perhaps Ceres either after Mars or even before it. The low gravity makes it easy to land and take off and there's water ice as well as minerals. And/or Vesta, especially if there's an interest in mining.
First, we have to make it worth going there. Going there just to go is folly. Mars will have to produce some return on the investment or suffer the fate of the Apollo program. … Forgotten.
Agreed. What do we want to do elsewhere that can't be done here?
Star Trek VI: "just because we can do a thing, it does not necessarily mean we must do that thing."
Well my guess would be the asteroid belt somewhere
Saturn has the same temp , air pressure, and gravity at 30 miles up (50KM). Think floating cities like in Star Wars; The Empire strikes back.
I’m off to the asteroid belt. Gold rush V2.0!
How about cleaning up earth first
How about cleaning up Earth and going to space at the same time? I think that's a good idea
@PlanetaryExplorer you make a good point considering the amount of technology derived by solving problems to make it happen.
@@RevGunn-jq3cq In fact, colonizing other planets require us to find tech to create habitable environments (be it terraforming or in domes or whatever) which could help fix Earth.
We mustn't colonize space to escape Earth but to help it.
@PlanetaryExplorer I like your thought process
Ceres, space mining will be crucial for human space colonisation, and we all know that the belt is rich on resources of all kind
... Shocked Uranus was not the first choice. 😂
A floating city on Venus could be built in a habitable zone
a floating city is a terrible idea
Ceres is the only option. To much radiation near Saturn or Jupiter.
Servus !
See the series "The Expanse". They have already answered that question.
I would say that we will go to the asteroids and mine them to provide materials to build space colonies and ships.
Asteroids!
After Mars the interest becomes Economic and that means Resources. The obvious candidate for that is the asteroid belt. With minerals practically already mined, just find the right rock having the most of what you are looking,for and you'll be rich indeed.
All the metal you could want for space stations on a grand scale. Thats the next venture.
We go to the asteroid belt to build o'neil colonies
that is a question for future travelers and not us to ask. The mars project will last 3 lifetimes and will take almost all our effort of trying not to kill each other to stay focused on one single project. lets face it... as a race we are collectively ADHD.
martian moons!!!!...FIRST!!!!!!❤❤
Ceres
Everybody keep shasking where we came from, what I wanna know is, where are we going? It's speeding through space at 17500 miles per hour. Is there a sign up ahead that says stop space ends one mile ahead.
After colonizing Mars, we should double-down on exploiting the Moon. This likely requires nuclear fission electrical power to operate during the 14*24 hour night.
You mean after the Moon.
And after that celebraties will start to buy personal asteroid, like they buys private Island in Earth.😂
Make a O ring km in size. Bring astoroids from astoroid belt and make own planet. 😅
Star Wars😭
1970s ISAAC ASIMOV as Paul French
David Starr, space ranger
lucky starr and the pirates of the asteroids
lucky starr and the big sun mercury
lucky starr and the moons of jupiter
lucky starr and the oceans of venus
lucky starr and the rings of saturn
Like you’re gonna stay home for a long time not really go anywhere
If you're going to terra form Mars why not do the Moon.
I would seriously suggest . . . wait for it . . . (drum roll) . . . A RETURN TO SANITY ! 😅 Think how much we could advance humankind there ! ! ! 😊
Will the everyday ppl be able to go to space or only specialized educated ppl be able to go?
Ceres. Ceres is next.
Just terraform Proxima Centauri 1b 🥱