All David Wood did was slander ISLAM, Muslims, QURAN And MUHAMMAD. And kept on claiming that that Jesus died on cross and people have claimed to see Jesus after crucifixion. Self proclaimed philosopher David Wood was helpless in this debate and barely spoke on the topic. Shabir Ally demonstrated great scholarship on religious and historic perspectives of the topic: Did Jesus Rise From The Dead?
to Furious Bird: Many people claim that Jesus is dead on the cross and rising from the dead. Many of those people were contemporaty to Jesus. To prove that Jesus did not die, those people must prove to be liars. The only thing Mr Ally did was put philosophical opinions on the trinity. The problem with muslims is that in order for the Qur'an to be true they must make the Bible false. And they do it by interpreting Bible things that are not there. Dr. Ally has taken life for life to make those interpretations. No evidence ..
Ariel Nans: Christians are blind in their faith? If so, I would believe every Muslim's opinion because "it is very clear" lol. I do not believe so your claim has been proven wrong. And Jeeus is God. He was crucified and died on the third day He rose from the dead. He ascended into the heavens and is destined to condemn the living and the dead. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
This Rotten Wood is a fanatic and of course a fool. He sees nothing good in ISLAM these days just as there was nothing good in Christianity when he was an Atheist. He went so far in stupidity and hatred that he almost killed his
Cont. his own Christian father. For that this monster went to jail. He became a Christian there. And as ecpected his next target turned out to be lslam. This is a criminal in the hands of bigger criminals working out religious conflict for NWO. . . .
I’ve been reading comments of Christian and muslim channels of this debate and the Christians say David won whereas the muslims say Shabir won. I’ve watched the debate full and uncut and have to say from an honest and rational perspective that shabir obliterated David you know why. Shabir in his debate is contingent of historical text and robust testimony of text and intellectual knowledge where as David’s argument is weak contingent on slander speech on Islam and self evident doctrine perspective. It is the blind that think David won.
3E Jesus was both man and God...and yes He became a curse for us inoder for us to receive the gift of the spirit it is written in the bible...book of galasians...so its yout choice to believe or not
AzAb12745 Islam is wrong on the crucifixion of Jesus Christ for this reasons: 1) why didnt allah raise Jesus up before the romans tortured and humiliated him in front of everyone. If Allah did safe him why did he not safe Jesus from the torture and humiliation 2) according to Islam Allah raised Jesus up and replaced him with someone else (replacement body). Now if it is true then that means that the Romans crucified the replacement body and after a while they brought him down and put his corps in the tomb, now notice that the fundamental of Christianity is that Jesus died and RESURRECTED since the replacement body did not rise or even left the tomb at all, so how did Christianity formed if the body never left the tomb. THERE IS ONLY ONE POSSIBLE REASON, WHICH IS THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED AND RESSURECTED AGAIN LIKR HE SAID HE WOULD. And Islam and the Qur'an are wrong. PRAISED THE LORD OUR GOD
Why do I find all who say Shabir Ali won have Muslim user names? And none of them give reasons for their opinion. That's such a biased internet audience just hearing but not listening! And the channel owner has pinned a comment that supports their view. Lol! That shows how much they are truth-seeking thinking person or just biased people parroting slogans
I dont think it's abt winning or losing but understanding which scriptures are genuine n to be considered and wht religion to follow after determination of right frm wrong.
@BlueSkys673 both don't contradict each since they were not written at the same time. The Qur'an was revealed over 1400yrs ago n written where as the bible was complied from various sources n written much less than 500yrs ago.
@@yabdul1782which is funny tbh, Christians have remnants from their original book, they added, took alway some verses and made some interpolations and they got what they got after Islam with a millennial and they claim they have the older generation 😂
The debate between Zakir Hussain and Dr James White is absolutely amazing..Zakir Hussain beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified
Ariel Nans Tell me one thing what was allah doing when christianity was blooming for 600 years ??? Any answer ?? Why did he made it appear that jesus was crucified?? any answer? If jesus was promoting single god(allah) then why will Jews cruify ? Any answer ?? Why did not even one of his disciples denied that he was god?? Was jesus such a failure ? Any answer ?? Why should jesus be born from virgin ?? Why not david and other prophets also have this previllage? Any answer?? No??????? Find out all these answers and tell me. If u manage to convince me i will convert to muslim.
Shabir: "Scholars have arrived at this conclusion." David: "But the very same scholars, with the same methodology, would say the same thing about your belief. And there are other scholars who support my belief." Shabir: "But the scholars whom I am citing have done a deep, careful, detailed study in Christianity." Lol ..
Excellent haha. I was thinking the same thing. And a similar thread; David: “If Jesus didn’t die then Allah deceived me and all Christians for 2000 years”. Shabir: “yes Allah deceived you, allham du illah” David: “your God deceives but mine doesn’t, weirdo”.
In that debate, David wood was trying to attack Quran rapidly, which is strawman fallacy. He was ignoring the debate, "was jesus Resurrected from the dead?"
I say this with no malice because I'm not the type to slander others for their beliefs .. but as a Sunni Muslim who converted 20 years ago I've within the last year just started following certain channels & watching debates more & from what I see so far David seems more concerned with bashing Islam most of the time .. again this is just from what I see .. may Allah guide us 🤲🤲🤲
Don't worry he's being completely destroyed now he was humiliated by Mohammed hijab, Daniel haqquitchu, sheikh uthman faruk 4 times he has no ground to stand.
@@Ajmolali82 as salamu alaikum wa Rahman tu Allah & yes walahi brother .. I watched those debates not only did he lose but he's more concerned with being malicious then even properly representing his faith Allahu alim .. he sees & knows what's in everyone's hearts 🤲🤲🤲
If I was in a position to advise Dr. Shabir Ally, I would have advised him not to make any debate with such an unlettered guy like David wood. David himself was not certain what he says. I believe, he was googling the questions and then read them from his laptop, however, Dr. Shabir Ally was very energetic and full of information on Islam and Christianity. May Allah Almighty bless Dr. Shabir Ally and all of us.
😂 ahh yes here comes the idiotic Muslim with his bias comments. Nope shabir got crushed, because Islam is a pathetic and idiotic religion. David wood is so smart, bless god for him being able to crush your pathetic dogs religion
Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary, Christian: Yes Muslim: Who created Mary? Christian: God, Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son Christian : Yes Muslim: Who is his father? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim :Jesus is a servant of God Christian : Yes Muslim : Jesus died on the cross? Christian: Yes Muslim: Who resurrected him? Christian : God. Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger. Christian: Yes Muslim: Who sent him? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth. Christian: Yes Muslim: Whom did he worship? Christian: God. Muslim: Who is God? Christian: Jesus. Muslim:Did God have a beginning Christian: No Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC? Christian: Jesus. Muslim : Is Jesus God. Christian: Yes Muslim: Where's God? Christian : In heaven, Muslim : How many Gods are there in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Where's Jesus? Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his father. Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven? Christian: Only one God. Muslim: Then how many seats? Christian: one Muslim: where's Jesus? Christian: Seated next to God. Muslim: How are they seated on one chair? Christian: Its only understood by those with the Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
@@jwjagian6790 u see, anyone tht actually understood christianity wouldn’t have made this comment. Any Christian that sees this might just laugh because it is completely inaccurate.
there is no truth in Islam period... who would believe such a prophet? most converted when he appeared with his sword. in fact most crapped their pants ...😂😂
@@maxcassidy4527 you don’t even make sense. Your grammar is appalling. Why on earth would we take your irrelevant comments seriously?? 🤣🤣🤣 This just tells me that you have absolutely no knowledge about Islam. It's always the ones who do not know about Islam has the most to say
@@maxcassidy4527 Catholic , Protestant and Baptist priests choose Islam and convert . Those people are not stupid and wouldn't do something without knowing something. I don't think you have much knowledge about Islam .
Well Josephus 37-100 AD wrote in a book that Jesus was crucified under pontious pilate, and the New Testament is both internally and externally reliable. The Gospel or anywhere in the Bible has not been corrupted bc we have Manuscripts of the Gospels all the way to 60 AD. Matthew was written in 55 AD, Jesus predicted the future of the destruction of the 2nd Temple. Tagts proves everything else true. Without Lies, Islam Dies
Found the debate to be civil on both sides and well argued on both sides. Regardless, the weight of the evidence appears to point to the fact that Jesus both lived, died and rose back to life again. Something we may not like, something we may not even think logical, but something that wether we believe or not determines where we go in eternity, heaven or hell.
I will turn away from My signs those who act unjustly with arrogance in the land. And even if they were to see every sign, they still would not believe in them. If they see the Right Path, they will not take it. But if they see a crooked path, they will follow it. This is because they denied Our signs and were heedless of them.(QURAN 7:146)
By the way the debate was not on "if islam is correct", the topic for debate was "did jesus rise from dead". Its impossible to prove jesus risen from dead and there is no historical evidence period!
FURIOUS WILD HAWK And there is NO history , facts, or written proof that mohammed existed, yet you believe !! 200 - 250 years after this mythology dies someone puts together stories about him. How convenient all early writings were burned. Anyone who may have lived in his time was long gone !! Muslims are good at memorized stories, keeping a lie going. The ppl in the Bible have been proven to have existed, from Kings who lived BEFORE Christ, events that happen in scriptures before, during, and after Christ. It's because of archeological findings! Muslim country won't allow archeologist to dig to explore the Quran claims. So now the pour concrete over the homes of his wives, places he was told to have lived, and died. They are building skyscrapers on top of these places. Grand mufti, imam, schecks, already know mohammed was made up but they have to keep the lies going they have to much at stake 😈 so they cover up, destroy history that would open the eyes of so many.
heera rodriguez I am addressing a topic brought to ME by someone else, I am really not addressing you at all. Emotional???? No just facts. You don't run this page anyone can conversate on ANY topic. !! Mind your business.
glz you dumbass. you claimed right at the begging that Muhammad never existed. *you already skewered yourself* No person with a rational brain would ever say that. Historians question whether jesus was alive for the same reasons they can clearly confirm muhammad was.
TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL sorry for the late reply. I'm not afford to proclaim here. But what I can tell you it in Southeast Asia. There are some but not all. But I can watch on other devices like PC. Not sure whether it is done by accidentally or deliberately by UA-cam server
If mark and Mathew and Luke and John were inspired by the same Holy Spirit the history should be consistent . So don’t say that John was preaching to different audiences if he wasn’t inspired by a different holy spirit then where is the problem? Unless he wasn’t inspired at all . I don’t see any reason for those contradictions.
He didn’t address Matthew’s zombies . ◄ Matthew 7:21 ► New International Version "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. I laugh 😂 when I hear Christians say their salvation is guaranteed, who told you that ? Not Jesus pbuh he clearly said not all Christians will inherit the kingdom of heaven so what makes you sure you are not one of those rejected ?
I like how David wood said if a Verse in Quran is unclear you must take it in the most natural light. If only he took his own advice to look at the so called trinity in the most natural light.
The Trinity is the most natural light in view of the Gospel of Matthew (28:19),; 'Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.' There are many other verses in John, in Pauline's letter but somehow Mr Ally just dismisses them. Peace be with you.
@@PaterFiliusSpiritusSanctus but in peter. It says you only have to baptise in jesus christ name. So is it the father son and Holy spirit or only jesus christ?
@@PaterFiliusSpiritusSanctus also. Saying you must baptise someone in the trinity name does not explicitly state that jesus is God. So your whole doctrine. The essential core belief is not clear. I'm not talking about small contradictions like was jehovachin 22 or 42 years old.
@@abdulgaffoorsungay5415 thank you Abdul. The difference here is Baptism was already happening among the Jews if you recall John the Baptist. However once Jesus is revealed as the second person of the One God and filled with the Holy Spirit, Peter declares as your mentioned. Recall Matthew is specific especially regarding baptising 'all nations' meaning not only those baptised Jews prior to Jesus. Peace upon you brother.
@@abdulgaffoorsungay5415 Not sure what you mean by not clear. Jesus claims that equal with God and that is why the Jews wanted him dead for blasphemy. There are many occasions in the Gospels, that he states for example to the paralytic, your sins are forgiven, then heals him and when the scribes saw it wanted to try him for blasphemy. There is also the destroy this temple. Other examples include:John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: ‘I solemnly declare it: before Abraham came to be, I AM.” [This was the name God gave himself when he first communicated with Moses, Exodus 3:14 “God replied, ‘I am who am.’ Then he added, ‘This is what you shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you.’”] Mark 14: 61-64 “Once again the high priest interrogated him: ‘Are you the messiah, the Son of the Blessed One?’ Then Jesus answered: ‘I am; and you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.’ At that the high priest tore his robes and said: ‘What further need do we have of witnesses? You have heard the blasphemy….’” Just to show a few from the Gospels.
It’s so crazy how David did not had an answer for cursed I On the cross, one simple answer, God never cursed his messengers including Jesus, prophets are pure and righteous no reason to be cursed.
Cursed! This word means what? For God cursed Moses that he will not see the promised Land. Is Moses not prophet or messager of God? We must ask ourself what we believe, is it original? that's the point we must find out, not just believe Bible is correct scripture or quoran is correct scripture.
It is a wonder that not a single disciple was eye witness to the alleged crucifixion because the Bible says, " They all forsook him and fled".(at a very crucial juncture when he needed them !!).
They fled and God was there to pick him , poor Jesus left alone little did they know he wasn't indeed alone because he prayed to his Lord almighty Allah to rescue him. Allahu Akbar!
@@AwesomeExperiencezYour Quran claims Jesus wasn’t crucified, therefore he didn’t hang on the cross. Furthermore, it claims that the disciples followed Jesus‘ teachings and spread the message. In conclusion: According to you the disciples must have been wonderful and faithful people
Taking Scripture out of Context is the Dawah way and it serves you no good! It only makes you look unlearned and not well read! Do your research and learn before you comment on things you do not know! Luke 23:49 says that they all watched from afar. Boom! Mind blown!
Apart from the disciple John, and his own mother! please read more that just @snippets@ from Muslim websites and read the gospels for yourself. read this to clear your mind of the falsehood you have been told to repeat! *John 19:25-30* Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
If this debate was done after David dressed up as a woman trying to laugh at prophet Muhammad with ignorance and shabir handshake him then I don't respect shabir if this was true This David is not to be respected at all.
Many times Wood claimed Ally was using double standards of evidence (from about 1:30:00- 2:10:00) but without really arguing why those standards are flawed. So it seems like one could conclude that good standards lead one to believe both the Bible and Quran are historically unreliable.
Shabir love to quote atheist scholars in most of his arguments, but unfortunately many viewers don’t know that as a fact, I called that misleading. But I hope people can listen with an open mind and do some research. One question tho, can you die for what you don’t believe in? Christ apostles died for their believes in Jesus, I will do the same if what I believe is true and Jesus is the truth.
Somebody needs to tell David that making a rhetorical statement and slanderous claim does not count as debating/discussing. Shabbir is talking about the historicity and history of Jesus 1:01:00 and his Disciples and how the story changed (Especially when you compare to previous prophets/holy men Like Abraham and Moses etc), Islam doesn't have the problem as we know the basis of the narrators of the Hadith. The narrators have a full background and we know they were real people. Paul, Matthew and Luke - as far as i know we know nothing about them. Not even a second name or ranl/title that was custom to that time.
This part is from Quran about Jesus death & Crucifixion: When Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will exalt thee to Myself, and will clear thee from the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ. [3:56]
David was a poor representative for Christianity. The Muslim was knowledgeable in all areas and took a person logically stream of reason. All I heard from David was insults. David should not be speaking on Christians behalf. There needs someone educated in all areas including the true facts from the other side
the most reliable and best scholars who we all should be listening to on whether jesus died on the cross are the disciples. everyone of his disciple claims that jesus died on the cross. then a certain conman came 600 years later.
Really ?? “They all forsook him and fled”. Hence no eye witnesses .. not to mention the fact that early Christians didn’t believe in the death of Jesus pbuh, CITATION Dunderberg, Ismo; Christopher Mark Tuckett; Kari Syreeni (2002). Fair play: diversity and conflicts in early Christianity: essays in honour of Heikki Räisänen. Brill. p. 488. ISBN 90-04-12359-8. All this crucifixion stuff was decided decades / centuries later by Ingantius and the council of Nicaea
Warning! A bit of a long sermon coming about Shairs rebuttal. Shabir is proven wrong, but he slips and slides hoping you don't @fact chech@ him. Here goes! . Peter in Acts 2 - Go to what Peter preached, Peter quoted the 16th psalm -- Shabir says, this psalm is not about someone who died. Really? For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. *Psalms 16:10* To NOT leave someone's soul in Sheol, the place of the dead, they must be IN IT. (ref. Jonah's body was in the belly of the whale, but his SOUL was in Sheil. Jonah died and his soul was separated from his body when he died. His body and his soul were reunited so he came back to life) (ref. John 11:39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days. - bodies became corrupted after 3 days, they started to decompose). So Psalm 16 talks about someone who died, tsk, tsk Shabir. Psalm 118. Jesus quotes part of this psalm about himself. Just after he gives the parable referring to his being killed by the Jews. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. *Matthew 21:35-39* How do we know that Jesus means the priests and Pharisees? It tells us........... Mat 21:45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them. ================================ I called Dr Ally, "Shabir, the snippeteer" Because he loves to snip bits out to "prove his points" while ignoring the surrounding context that refutes him. "Someone who came close to death" whereas the parable about the priests and Pharisees tells us what they do to the son (Jesus). "But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, *_and slew him._* =============================== Shabir goes on about the evolution of the gospels, yet the earliest scriptures have the highest Christology. From before AD 64 - Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. *1 Corinthians 15:12-22* Poor Shabir, he is lost and he knows it. He is like the rich young man who obeys the law and believes he is righteous. But he still knows he lacks something. The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept [The ten commandments] from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. *Matthew 19:20-22* Shabir has his position as an Imam, a teacher, a celebrity, his pride. Shabir will turn his back on Jesus with much sorrow because he does not want to give up his worldly achievements, poor Shabir. {pray his eyes will open and his heart be open to the gospel he knows so well yet still rejects.}
@@y.agamer4159 what illogical techniques r u using!? If u want to prove Koran is right, every verses & chapters of the Koran should become true.. no mistakes should be there.. U have to prove in that way ❕❕
YES !!! JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS! AND ON THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD !!! NO ARGUMENT NEEDED, JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA SAID IT HIMSELF !!! IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION; JOHN THE DIVINE SAID! Revelation 1:17-18 KJV [17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. NO ARGUMENT NEEDED JUST READ THE BIBLE AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH!!!
@Flicker OP YES YOU SAID THAT I AM DUMB , THATS WHAT YOU THINK YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF GOD WHICH IS THE BIBLE! YOU THOUGHT YOU ARE WISE BUT YOU BECAME FOOL AND IN THE END OF YOUR LIFE YOU’LL REGRET IF YOU WILL NOT SEARCH THE TRUTH! SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION IS A FICTION CREATED BY JOHN! JESUS APOSTLES, WHERE DID YOU GET THAT IDEA? HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT YOU ARE RIGHT !! MAN! REMEMBER IF YOU ARE WRONG YOU’LL GO TO HELL BECAUSE YOU DESPISED,INSULTED, SHOWED IRREVERENCE TO THE WORDS OF GOD AND THAT IS BLASPHEMY! ACCORDING TO OUR HOLY BOOK , ALL SIN CAN BE FORGIVEN BY GOD EXCEPT BLASPHEMY!!! WHEN YOU BLASPHEME THE HOLY GHOST THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS! NOTE: FOR YOUR INFO THE WORDS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE ARE NOT ORDINARY WORDS THEY ARE SPIRIT!! John 6:63 KJV [63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
@@microcloud According to Bible Jesus Pbuh was a fake Prophet Nauzubillah Book of Deuteronomy says that who is crucified is cursed and Jesus was crucified according to the bible And thus a Fake prophet.....?
@@majorianus8055 Thanks for your concern, but i didn't become Muslim for nothing, i come from a very religious christian family and have studied both christianity and Islam thoroughly and only Islam makes sense. I can put forward many reasons why christianity is a false religion using the bible. If you can prove Islam to be a false religion then bring foraward your evidence, i would love to see.
@@abayomrunkojemusa9086 the quran was around before muhummad was born muhummad was illiterate lmao who is muhummads father? wait wasnt muhummad born four years after his father died? how is that possible? lmao you people make me laugh lmao
Michael .Stott You missed the point - he is saying someone who actively invented a lie. Rather than someone who believes a lie is the truth as that's just deception.
mystaree82 Quran also said we can't be resurrected until after the day if judgement..and that hasn't happened. ?? Unless Jesus was the first to face trial and enter heaven after he dies. But hard to believe that. Jesus most likely hasn't experience death yet.
And David Wood made an accusation [39:02/3:25:03] by arguing, "Allah did an amazing job tricking everyone!." Of course, Allah is the supreme schemer as according to [Qur'an Surah Ali-'Imran: 54], "And they (the unbelieving Jews) schemed (to kill 'Isa), but Allah schemed. And(remember that) Allah is the supreme schemer (and can fail any evil scheme)." In this ayat of surah or verse, Allah shows the Jews who did the scheming that He [Allah] is more supreme schemer than the Jews! The Jews being schemed [or Allah did an amazing job by tricking the Jews or the Romans!] is Allah's punishment for them [the Jews or the Romans!]for wanting to kill Isa[translated: Jesus Christ!]and it is Allah's "Choice" according to His "Wisdom." For example, David Wood has done evil things that couldn't be forgiven!. If Allah put David Wood into the hellfire, do you think that Allah is doing an evil job just because Allah put David Wood in hellfire?! No! it is Allah's punishment for David Wood! And it is Allah's "Choice" according to His "Wisdom." According to the Quran in [Surah Al-Hashr:23-24], "He is Allah, besides Whom there is no other god. He is the Sovereign Lord(of the universe), the Holy One, the One Free from all Defects, the Giver of Peace, the Guardian, the Almighty, the All-Powerful(can defeat all), and the Supreme. Utterly remote is Allah in His limitless glory from anything to which men may ascribe a share in His divinity!. He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver(from non-being to being), the Bestower of forms (shaping His creations the way He wanted them). To Him belongs the most beautiful and noble names. All that is in heavens and earth extols His limitless glory. And He is the Almighty, the All-Wise." So now, where are the Jews? Where are the Romans? Where is David Wood? The "Hellfire" is Allah's punishment for David Wood for doing evil things [or just because!] David Wood is not following Allah's commandment. Unless [if] in Christianity there is no concept of "hell" [and whereas] there is only "heaven" in Christianity [only then!] David Wood's accusation is right!. Who is David Wood when compare to Allah?
Woods with his humour should have mentioned how many people believe that Elvis presley is still alife or came back from death , how many since he died have seen him, if we do not have TVs and so on people would have claimed that Elvis is an angel and was a giant ......
The verse u Qouted from Quran chapter 61 verse 14 which says Allah has aided the true believers ... is refering to before Allah raised Jesus to heaven. Jesus was with them. Dont mis lead people. See the begining of the veese Jesus himself speaking
You will never get the level of respect to Christian debaters in manner a Christian majority audience will give to Muslim debaters and that in itself says a lot - well done to David and I hold a fair respect to Shabir although I disagree with his world view, at least he has respect and a good attitude.
@Seto Relentless Crusader Kaiba Why quote that verse? What relevance does it have? Why ask that question when the answer is in front of you? Why??? How does this have anything with Allah SWT lying? You do realize that Allah is the Arabic word for God? You're insulting God you moran. I love it that you think in your mind you're doing something but it quite the opposite. You don't follow your Bible, you're insulting other beliefs. Also while I'm at it explain this: “Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will’” (Matthew 26:39). I'll give my explanation you give me yours then. In Islam, Muslims pray by prostrating and setting their forehead on the ground in the direction of the Kaba. This is telling me that Jesus was not a God but in-fact a messenger, and besides that... why is God himself praying to another diety?
Is it true that MUHAMMAD accepted? Revelation/Surah in Cave Hira?, if HE did received Revelation in Cave Hira, Then why are there so many sources of 114 Surahs? from the Bible? It means that someone is cheating from the previous books, are not sourced from Divine Revelation.
3:15:00 david wood struggle & was so confused because he couldn't reconcile that fact hat jesus is cursed.. he was even suprised that jesus is cursed lol .. that's why christianity is false from A to Z .
Yusuf Chebi bro I would but it's just to long to figure that out but what difference does it make really we all know that it's Jesus is crucified really. It's really Judas Iscariot the betrayer of Jesus
Yusuf Chebi obviously if you look at it davids fans clearly voted for him and the Shabirs fans they would have voted for him. But I'm going to watch the full debate and have a good look at it I will let you know brother.
Thank you Shabir First Shabir states confirms that the ayat regarding Jesus’ pbuh crucifixtion may seem to state that Jesus pbuh was not place on the cross however he explains that the passage only confirms that the Jews did not KIll or crucified him it only appeared that way and he brilliantly explains his stance on this by first stating that we must take into consideration that Jesus pbuh may have been nailed to the cross but did not die on it. Which would still indicate he was not crucified. Therefore the substitution scenario may not be the only way to look at this. He describes this with the “being hung” and actually “hunged” meaning at the beginning. Then Next he explains that it is possible that Jesus pbuh did not die while on the cross based on timeframes etc. Shabir also points out the changes in scriptures between Mark,Luke,John. Showing witnesses and what they saw and how this has changed etc. Shabir states that the Muslim perspective is that Allah swt raised Jesus pbuh up to him and that this could be before death. Based on the Quran it states that when we sleep we are raised to him. Therefore is it possible that when Jesus appeared to have died on the cross and was put in the tomb. That while he was in the tomb (sleeping/unconscious) Allah swt raised him so that he would not die? Confirming scriptures of empty tomb and seeing Jesus again. This could also explain Zakat. This reasoning from Shabir is possible. Because the statement is ambiguous in the Quran there are several ways we can look and still believe that Jesus pbuh was not crucified and Allah swt heard his prayers and he was saved.
Christ purchased us,+ releasing us+ from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: “Accursed is every man hung upon a stake. Please note mentions he curse of the Law, (Mosiac Law) Please Note that LAw showed up be sinners without a doudt the Nation of isarel God people had sins acoording the law. both john and jesus were preaching batism why sins against the LAw Mosiac law Understanding this help unlock the rest of the verse
This is one of these debates when one side will never be able to convince the other. If Jesus rose from the dead - Mohammad is a false prophet and Islam falls. If He did not - Christianity falls. That's it. It is that simple.
It’s not meant to convince the opposing speaker; debates are meant to illuminate where each side draws their lines, and then the audience can decide one way or the other.
Wow Shabir nailed it The guys whom questioned David Wood, salute to y’all, what some powerful questions ! David Wood needs to go back to the woods and team up with Bigfoot
Because Dr. Shabir can’t disprove Christ’s resurrection using the Quran (the Quran has nothing concerning the resurrection), he has to believe the Bible to disproved the Bible’s account of the resurrection. I wonder whether now he’s become a believer of the Bible, which was corrupt. I wonder whether a Muslim should worry about a “corrupt” text. Well, this is only what non-Christians do; they have to assume Christianity in order to disprove it, or else, they have no ground to stand on.
Yes he did. "These things I do yee shall do, and yee shall do greater things than I, and more" My answer I have come that ye my have life and have it abundantly" THOU SHALL NOT KILL
Tom Harpur “ I will clearly document that there s nothing Jesus of the Gospels either said or did from the sermon on the mount to the miracles, from his flight as an infant from Herod to the resurrection itself- that cannot be shown to have originated thousands of years before, in Egyptian Mystery rites and other sacred liturgies such as the Egyptian book of dead. Everything- from the star in the east to Jesus’ walking on water from the angels pronouncement to the slaughters of the innocents by Herod, from the temptation in the wilderness to the changing of water into wine- already existed in the Egyptian sources. Egypt and its peoples had knelt at the shrine of the Madonna and child ISIS and Horus for many long centuries before any allegedly historical Mary lifted a supposedly historical Jesus in her arms. But for all those centuries before the translation of the Rosetta Stone by Champollion in 1822, the ancient key to all this Egyptian material had been lost. Centuries of blissful ignorance went by. Now since the translation of the books of old Egypt- the Egyptian book of the Dead, the pyramid Texts, the Amduat, and the book of Thoth, for example-there is irrefutable proof that not one single doctrine, rite tenet or usage in Christianity was in reality a fresh contribution to the world of religion. Alvin Boyd Kuhn puts it tersely when he says that entire body of Christian doctrine is simply a revamped and mutilated Egyptianism. These may seem extremely blunt words, but a full reading of his works reveals the mountain of undeniable evidence he has to back them up” Tom Hurpur. The pagan Christ
All David Wood did was slander ISLAM, Muslims, QURAN And MUHAMMAD. And kept on claiming that that Jesus died on cross and people have claimed to see Jesus after crucifixion. Self proclaimed philosopher David Wood was helpless in this debate and barely spoke on the topic. Shabir Ally demonstrated great scholarship on religious and historic perspectives of the topic: Did Jesus Rise From The Dead?
to Furious Bird:
Many people claim that Jesus is dead on the cross and rising from the dead. Many of those people were contemporaty to Jesus. To prove that Jesus did not die, those people must prove to be liars. The only thing Mr Ally did was put philosophical opinions on the trinity.
The problem with muslims is that in order for the Qur'an to be true they must make the Bible false. And they do it by interpreting Bible things that are not there.
Dr. Ally has taken life for life to make those interpretations. No evidence ..
Exactor Mortis lol.. Just acpt that christian is a blinde belive and jesus is not god.. That is very clear..
Ariel Nans: Christians are blind in their faith? If so, I would believe every Muslim's opinion because "it is very clear" lol. I do not believe so your claim has been proven wrong. And Jeeus is God. He was crucified and died on the third day He rose from the dead. He ascended into the heavens and is destined to condemn the living and the dead. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life.
This Rotten Wood is a fanatic and of course a fool. He sees nothing good in ISLAM these days just as there was nothing good in Christianity when he was an Atheist. He went so far in stupidity and hatred that he almost killed his
Cont.
his own Christian father. For that this monster went to jail. He became a Christian there. And as ecpected his next target turned out to be lslam. This is a criminal in the hands of bigger criminals working out religious conflict for NWO. . . .
I’ve been reading comments of Christian and muslim channels of this debate and the Christians say David won whereas the muslims say Shabir won. I’ve watched the debate full and uncut and have to say from an honest and rational perspective that shabir obliterated David you know why. Shabir in his debate is contingent of historical text and robust testimony of text and intellectual knowledge where as David’s argument is weak contingent on slander speech on Islam and self evident doctrine perspective. It is the blind that think David won.
True! Islam is knowledge !! ⚘
Secret Rose are you revert to Islam
David Wood won the Debate. So exciting.
May Allah guide you to Islam bro.
thank you for your honesty. Whether Muslim or Christian if we are not honest we can never know truth
Debate begins at 21:00
Thank you very much
OMG!
David just destroyed Christianity! LOL!
I can't believe David just said that! "jesus was cursed."- david wood
Daniel Anderson seems you dont read the scriptures
Alexander Mihanjo you seem like don't wanna accept the fact! !!
Daniel Anderson what facts? Jesus being cursed...that isnt a fact ialready know that...you dont know why all you know is that he was cursed....
Alexander Mihanjo So God became a curse? What a joke LOL. Even Mormonism isn't this ridiculous.
3E Jesus was both man and God...and yes He became a curse for us inoder for us to receive the gift of the spirit it is written in the bible...book of galasians...so its yout choice to believe or not
Shabbir won. I don't understand why he even bothers to debate David knowing his content and propaganda against Islam online. David is a hate preacher.
AzAb12745 obviously you had the fraud David woods fans saying that David won it with ease. But it's Shabir that won it.
I believe Shabbir is hoping to get through to David somehow
AzAb12745 Islam is wrong on the crucifixion of Jesus Christ for this reasons:
1) why didnt allah raise Jesus up before the romans tortured and humiliated him in front of everyone. If Allah did safe him why did he not safe Jesus from the torture and humiliation
2) according to Islam Allah raised Jesus up and replaced him with someone else (replacement body). Now if it is true then that means that the Romans crucified the replacement body and after a while they brought him down and put his corps in the tomb, now notice that the fundamental of Christianity is that Jesus died and RESURRECTED since the replacement body did not rise or even left the tomb at all, so how did Christianity formed if the body never left the tomb. THERE IS ONLY ONE POSSIBLE REASON, WHICH IS THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED AND RESSURECTED AGAIN LIKR HE SAID HE WOULD. And Islam and the Qur'an are wrong. PRAISED THE LORD OUR GOD
Who says that Allah didn't raise him up BEFORE the torture? YOU don't know!!
Christianity is wrong on Jesus from this reason;
You say Jesus is God, then HOW CAN GOD DIE AND BE TORTURED BY HIS CREATION?
Why do I find all who say Shabir Ali won have Muslim user names?
And none of them give reasons for their opinion. That's such a biased internet audience just hearing but not listening!
And the channel owner has pinned a comment that supports their view. Lol! That shows how much they are truth-seeking thinking person or just biased people parroting slogans
Shabir ali is the best man. David Wood talking nonsense . David Wood need mental health doctor
I dont think it's abt winning or losing but understanding which scriptures are genuine n to be considered and wht religion to follow after determination of right frm wrong.
Isn’t the point of the debate to clarify exactly what you say? Because since both book contradict each other, only one or the other can be true.
@BlueSkys673 both don't contradict each since they were not written at the same time. The Qur'an was revealed over 1400yrs ago n written where as the bible was complied from various sources n written much less than 500yrs ago.
@@yabdul1782which is funny tbh, Christians have remnants from their original book, they added, took alway some verses and made some interpolations and they got what they got after Islam with a millennial and they claim they have the older generation 😂
@@1sosukeaizen1a simple google seatch will do alot dont you think?
“Islam will win with you or without,Allah has said that he will make his religion supersede all religions” -Ahmad Deedat
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to prove that David lost this one.
Again
Agreed
How?
By proving history?your guy agreed Jesus was on the cross unlike most of u abduls
I haven’t even started watching yet but I’m going to guess you’re just supporting your side 😂
The debate between Zakir Hussain and Dr James White is absolutely amazing..Zakir Hussain beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified
Ariel Nans Tell me one thing what was allah doing when christianity was blooming for 600 years ??? Any answer ??
Why did he made it appear that jesus was crucified?? any answer?
If jesus was promoting single god(allah) then why will Jews cruify ? Any answer ??
Why did not even one of his disciples denied that he was god?? Was jesus such a failure ?
Any answer ??
Why should jesus be born from virgin ?? Why not david and other prophets also have this previllage? Any answer??
No???????
Find out all these answers and tell me. If u manage to convince me i will convert to muslim.
indian -tamilan for to see Jesus crucified read isiah 53,
@@tharray1551 Actually Isiah 53 deals of the nation of Israel, NOT jesus, that's why it's in the plural
too bad he lies to his followers about whats in our bible.....typical muslim being deceitful just like allah lmao
Shame on you to call Jesus a Prophet .
Shabir: "Scholars have arrived at this conclusion."
David: "But the very same scholars, with the same methodology, would say the same thing about your belief. And there are other scholars who support my belief."
Shabir: "But the scholars whom I am citing have done a deep, careful, detailed study in Christianity."
Lol ..
Excellent haha. I was thinking the same thing. And a similar thread;
David: “If Jesus didn’t die then Allah deceived me and all Christians for 2000 years”.
Shabir: “yes Allah deceived you, allham du illah”
David: “your God deceives but mine doesn’t, weirdo”.
In that debate, David wood was trying to attack Quran rapidly, which is strawman fallacy. He was ignoring the debate, "was jesus Resurrected from the dead?"
Yes, Jesus died and resurrect on the third day.
@@islanddream8306 Mary PBUH wearing the hijab
I say this with no malice because I'm not the type to slander others for their beliefs .. but as a Sunni Muslim who converted 20 years ago I've within the last year just started following certain channels & watching debates more & from what I see so far David seems more concerned with bashing Islam most of the time .. again this is just from what I see .. may Allah guide us
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Don't worry he's being completely destroyed now he was humiliated by Mohammed hijab, Daniel haqquitchu, sheikh uthman faruk 4 times he has no ground to stand.
@@Ajmolali82 as salamu alaikum wa Rahman tu Allah & yes walahi brother .. I watched those debates not only did he lose but he's more concerned with being malicious then even properly representing his faith
Allahu alim .. he sees & knows what's in everyone's hearts
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@@heezyhines2209 but Sam shamoun eats all your Muslim hero’s up 😭😂
@@MightyChange22 Yea whatever gets u through the day .. U sound extremely mature as well smh
@@heezyhines2209 am I wrong ? Shabir refuses to ever debate with Sam again lol
I doubt David Wood actually believes in the things he says. There's an apparent lack of conviction in every QA.
If I was in a position to advise Dr. Shabir Ally, I would have advised him not to make any debate with such an unlettered guy like David wood. David himself was not certain what he says. I believe, he was googling the questions and then read them from his laptop, however, Dr. Shabir Ally was very energetic and full of information on Islam and Christianity. May Allah Almighty bless Dr. Shabir Ally and all of us.
Aameen
I agree…ameen.
Aameen
😂 ahh yes here comes the idiotic Muslim with his bias comments. Nope shabir got crushed, because Islam is a pathetic and idiotic religion. David wood is so smart, bless god for him being able to crush your pathetic dogs religion
Shabir Ally make sense and logical and fully knowledge
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim: is Jesus the son of Mary,
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who created Mary?
Christian: God,
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus
Muslim:Jesus is the begotten son
Christian : Yes
Muslim: Who is his father?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim :Jesus is a servant of God
Christian : Yes
Muslim : Jesus died on the cross?
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who resurrected him?
Christian : God.
Muslim: Is Jesus a messenger.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Who sent him?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim: Did Jesus worship while on earth.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Whom did he worship?
Christian: God.
Muslim: Who is God?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim:Did God have a beginning
Christian: No
Muslim: Then who was born on 25/DEC?
Christian: Jesus.
Muslim : Is Jesus God.
Christian: Yes
Muslim: Where's God?
Christian : In heaven,
Muslim : How many Gods are there in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Where's Jesus?
Christian: He is seated on the right hand of his
father.
Muslim: Then how many are they in heaven?
Christian: Only one God.
Muslim: Then how many seats?
Christian: one
Muslim: where's Jesus?
Christian: Seated next to God.
Muslim: How are they seated on one chair?
Christian: Its only understood by those with the
Ghost. You need Ghost my friend.
@@jwjagian6790
You nailed it 😂
@@jwjagian6790 Nice shot bro.
@@jwjagian6790 u see, anyone tht actually understood christianity wouldn’t have made this comment. Any Christian that sees this might just laugh because it is completely inaccurate.
@@jwjagian6790 you reminded me of sheikh Ahmed Deedat subhanallah,I miss him so much may Allah grant him the highest place in janatulfirdaws amiin 🙏♥️
La illaha illah Allaah Muhammadur Rasool Allaah.
La illaha illah Allaah musa, isa rasool Allaah.
Umm Zaynul Musa kalimoollah,Isa Roohoollah
@@arman7648 no more than messenger
No God but Allah and Muhammad pbuh is a rasul / Prophet of Allah.
Do you know the fact that you guys say blesses be upon mohammad suggest that he and allah and even muslims dont know if he got into heaven or not
*David Wood's heart is still blind about the truth of Islam and the al-Quran.*
Lol 🤣🤣
there is no truth in Islam period... who would believe such a prophet? most converted when he appeared with his sword. in fact most crapped their pants ...😂😂
I'm not surprised. He kept dodging the topic and just slanders Islam because that's the most productive thing he can do.
@@maxcassidy4527 you don’t even make sense. Your grammar is appalling. Why on earth would we take your irrelevant comments seriously?? 🤣🤣🤣 This just tells me that you have absolutely no knowledge about Islam. It's always the ones who do not know about Islam has the most to say
@@maxcassidy4527 Catholic , Protestant and Baptist priests choose Islam and convert . Those people are not stupid and wouldn't do something without knowing something. I don't think you have much knowledge about Islam .
Well Josephus 37-100 AD wrote in a book that Jesus was crucified under pontious pilate, and the New Testament is both internally and externally reliable. The Gospel or anywhere in the Bible has not been corrupted bc we have Manuscripts of the Gospels all the way to 60 AD. Matthew was written in 55 AD, Jesus predicted the future of the destruction of the 2nd Temple. Tagts proves everything else true. Without Lies, Islam Dies
Found the debate to be civil on both sides and well argued on both sides. Regardless, the weight of the evidence appears to point to the fact that Jesus both lived, died and rose back to life again. Something we may not like, something we may not even think logical, but something that wether we believe or not determines where we go in eternity, heaven or hell.
I will turn away from My signs those who act unjustly with arrogance in the land. And even if they were to see every sign, they still would not believe in them. If they see the Right Path, they will not take it. But if they see a crooked path, they will follow it. This is because they denied Our signs and were heedless of them.(QURAN 7:146)
@@Ali-te3jw dont post verses from satans book here please we want to leed people to heaven not away to hell with muhammad
By the way the debate was not on "if islam is correct", the topic for debate was "did jesus rise from dead". Its impossible to prove jesus risen from dead and there is no historical evidence period!
FURIOUS WILD HAWK exactly
FURIOUS WILD HAWK And there is NO history , facts, or written proof that mohammed existed, yet you believe !! 200 - 250 years after this mythology dies someone puts together stories about him. How convenient all early writings were burned. Anyone who may have lived in his time was long gone !!
Muslims are good at memorized stories, keeping a lie going.
The ppl in the Bible have been proven to have existed, from Kings who lived BEFORE Christ, events that happen in scriptures before, during, and after Christ. It's because of archeological findings!
Muslim country won't allow archeologist to dig to explore the Quran claims. So now the pour concrete over the homes of his wives, places he was told to have lived, and died. They are building skyscrapers on top of these places. Grand mufti, imam, schecks, already know mohammed was made up but they have to keep the lies going they have to much at stake 😈 so they cover up, destroy history that would open the eyes of so many.
glz 268 you are an idiot cause muhammad had children and grandchildren and it was not so long ago, his lineage is still alive
heera rodriguez I am addressing a topic brought to ME by someone else, I am really not addressing you at all. Emotional???? No just facts. You don't run this page anyone can conversate on ANY topic. !! Mind your business.
glz you dumbass. you claimed right at the begging that Muhammad never existed. *you already skewered yourself* No person with a rational brain would ever say that. Historians question whether jesus was alive for the same reasons they can clearly confirm muhammad was.
So hard to watch this arrogant and rude David Wood. What a cocky human, really off putting .
This video was throttled in my country. I can't stream until complete. Wondering what are the causes?
Amirul Idzham whats your country?
TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL sorry for the late reply. I'm not afford to proclaim here. But what I can tell you it in Southeast Asia. There are some but not all. But I can watch on other devices like PC. Not sure whether it is done by accidentally or deliberately by UA-cam server
Amirul Idzham
Southeast? My country is also there
The god of David wood was hanged and died on the cross
If mark and Mathew and Luke and John were inspired by the same Holy Spirit the history should be consistent . So don’t say that John was preaching to different audiences if he wasn’t inspired by a different holy spirit then where is the problem? Unless he wasn’t inspired at all . I don’t see any reason for those contradictions.
Pp⁰
Honestly David wood should take classes from shabir ally . And the Bible is corrupted
He didn’t address Matthew’s zombies .
◄ Matthew 7:21 ►
New International Version
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
I laugh 😂 when I hear Christians say their salvation is guaranteed, who told you that ? Not Jesus pbuh he clearly said not all Christians will inherit the kingdom of heaven so what makes you sure you are not one of those rejected ?
@Umar Abubackr no u.
@@abhmd4481 no you
@@watchwoman4christ379 that's not the answer of Matthew 7 lol
May Allaah protect and preserve Shabir Ameen
i hope and pray shabirs eyes are opened and he is saved from satan/allah !!!
@@Guthix198mad??😂😂
allah couldnt protect his black stone what makes you think he can protect a life form
"god was cursed"
David Wood 2018
Context.
Learn to be honest David we are humans we are rational people ok . Don’t take us for fools
yet your book states that Allah is the best deceiver so explain why your precious allah needs to deceive his people? what a load of crock lmao
@@thecongenital3035 lol what are you on about? It never says that
This white guy is saying that Prophet Jesus was cursed and he along with others will be forgiven. What a lie !!! Shame on him
I'm new on this Christian vs Muslim debate, but no wonder why Wood always post hatred videos on Islam because he always lost in the past.
I like how David wood said if a
Verse in Quran is unclear you must take it in the most natural light.
If only he took his own advice to look at the so called trinity in the most natural light.
The Trinity is the most natural light in view of the Gospel of Matthew (28:19),; 'Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.' There are many other verses in John, in Pauline's letter but somehow Mr Ally just dismisses them. Peace be with you.
@@PaterFiliusSpiritusSanctus but in peter. It says you only have to baptise in jesus christ name. So is it the father son and Holy spirit or only jesus christ?
@@PaterFiliusSpiritusSanctus also. Saying you must baptise someone in the trinity name does not explicitly state that jesus is God. So your whole doctrine. The essential core belief is not clear. I'm not talking about small contradictions like was jehovachin 22 or 42 years old.
@@abdulgaffoorsungay5415 thank you Abdul. The difference here is Baptism was already happening among the Jews if you recall John the Baptist. However once Jesus is revealed as the second person of the One God and filled with the Holy Spirit, Peter declares as your mentioned. Recall Matthew is specific especially regarding baptising 'all nations' meaning not only those baptised Jews prior to Jesus. Peace upon you brother.
@@abdulgaffoorsungay5415 Not sure what you mean by not clear. Jesus claims that equal with God and that is why the Jews wanted him dead for blasphemy. There are many occasions in the Gospels, that he states for example to the paralytic, your sins are forgiven, then heals him and when the scribes saw it wanted to try him for blasphemy. There is also the destroy this temple. Other examples include:John 8:58 “Jesus answered them: ‘I solemnly declare it:
before Abraham came to be, I AM.”
[This was the name God gave himself when he first communicated
with Moses, Exodus 3:14
“God replied, ‘I am who am.’ Then he added, ‘This is what you
shall tell the Israelites: I AM sent me to you.’”]
Mark 14: 61-64 “Once again the high priest interrogated him: ‘Are you the messiah, the
Son of the Blessed One?’ Then Jesus answered: ‘I am; and you will see the Son of
Man seated at the right hand of the Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.’ At
that the high priest tore his robes and said: ‘What further need do we have of witnesses?
You have heard the blasphemy….’” Just to show a few from the Gospels.
For the message of cross is foolishness to those who are perishing,but to us who are being saved is the power of God
When deadwood realized he can't defend his faith he diverted the topic to lies and criticizing Islam, so appalling
Deadwood . That's hilarious!
😂😂😂😂
When Shabir the punk got destroyed and all his gullible retard fans like you have to run to the comment section to defend him 😂
It’s so crazy how David did not had an answer for cursed I
On the cross, one simple answer, God never cursed his messengers including Jesus, prophets are pure and righteous no reason to be cursed.
Cursed! This word means what? For God cursed Moses that he will not see the promised Land. Is Moses not prophet or messager of God? We must ask ourself what we believe, is it original? that's the point we must find out, not just believe Bible is correct scripture or quoran is correct scripture.
Shabir won! 👏🏻
They say little knowledge is dangerous that’s clearly what is evident with David.
It is a wonder that not a single disciple was eye witness to the alleged crucifixion because the Bible says, " They all forsook him and fled".(at a very crucial juncture when he needed them !!).
The disciple he loved.... the Mary’s....
They fled and God was there to pick him , poor Jesus left alone little did they know he wasn't indeed alone because he prayed to his Lord almighty Allah to rescue him. Allahu Akbar!
@@AwesomeExperiencezYour Quran claims Jesus wasn’t crucified, therefore he didn’t hang on the cross. Furthermore, it claims that the disciples followed Jesus‘ teachings and spread the message. In conclusion: According to you the disciples must have been wonderful and faithful people
Taking Scripture out of Context is the Dawah way and it serves you no good! It only makes you look unlearned and not well read! Do your research and learn before you comment on things you do not know! Luke 23:49 says that they all watched from afar. Boom! Mind blown!
Apart from the disciple John, and his own mother! please read more that just @snippets@ from Muslim websites and read the gospels for yourself. read this to clear your mind of the falsehood you have been told to repeat!
*John 19:25-30*
Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home. After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst. Now there was set a vessel full of vinegar: and they filled a spunge with vinegar, and put it upon hyssop, and put it to his mouth. When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
If this debate was done after David dressed up as a woman trying to laugh at prophet Muhammad with ignorance and shabir handshake him then I don't respect shabir if this was true
This David is not to be respected at all.
The only true word that comes out of his mouth is "yeah,well"😅
Many times Wood claimed Ally was using double standards of evidence (from about 1:30:00- 2:10:00) but without really arguing why those standards are flawed. So it seems like one could conclude that good standards lead one to believe both the Bible and Quran are historically unreliable.
When truth prevails lies dissipate.
Muhammad leads to hell CHRIST LEADS TO HEAVEN
@@VaishaliShylon Muslims follow both Mohammed pbuh and Jesus Christ's teachings. You can't be muslim if you don't believe in Christ
@@VaishaliShylonjesus and muhamed both leads janah you lead to yourself in hell
@@shirosatsuma4946 Muslim believe in Christ but not follow the teaching of Christ 😓
@@Danallmixtv8239 The teachings of christ don't come from the Bible
Shabir love to quote atheist scholars in most of his arguments, but unfortunately many viewers don’t know that as a fact, I called that misleading. But I hope people can listen with an open mind and do some research. One question tho, can you die for what you don’t believe in? Christ apostles died for their believes in Jesus, I will do the same if what I believe is true and Jesus is the truth.
Somebody needs to tell David that making a rhetorical statement and slanderous claim does not count as debating/discussing.
Shabbir is talking about the historicity and history of Jesus 1:01:00 and his Disciples and how the story changed (Especially when you compare to previous prophets/holy men Like Abraham and Moses etc), Islam doesn't have the problem as we know the basis of the narrators of the Hadith. The narrators have a full background and we know they were real people.
Paul, Matthew and Luke - as far as i know we know nothing about them. Not even a second name or ranl/title that was custom to that time.
This part is from Quran about Jesus death & Crucifixion: When Allah said, ‘O Jesus, I will cause thee to die a natural death and will exalt thee to Myself, and will clear thee from the charges of those who disbelieve, and will place those who follow thee above those who disbelieve, until the Day of Resurrection; then to Me shall be your return, and I will judge between you concerning that wherein you differ. [3:56]
You spoke the truth David, hence the many Muslim slanders which is normal. I salute you. Keep it up
😂 😂 😂 Truth? Did you see how confused David is?
I also have a da'wa channel you can use it to respond back bro.and give me you're link in pal talk so that I can benefit from you're lessons thank you
David was a poor representative for Christianity. The Muslim was knowledgeable in all areas and took a person logically stream of reason. All I heard from David was insults. David should not be speaking on Christians behalf. There needs someone educated in all areas including the true facts from the other side
the most reliable and best scholars who we all should be listening to on whether jesus died on the cross are the disciples. everyone of his disciple claims that jesus died on the cross. then a certain conman came 600 years later.
Really ?? “They all forsook him and fled”.
Hence no eye witnesses .. not to mention the fact that early Christians didn’t believe in the death of Jesus pbuh, CITATION
Dunderberg, Ismo; Christopher Mark Tuckett; Kari Syreeni (2002). Fair play: diversity and conflicts in early Christianity: essays in honour of Heikki Räisänen. Brill. p. 488. ISBN 90-04-12359-8.
All this crucifixion stuff was decided decades / centuries later by Ingantius and the council of Nicaea
Warning! A bit of a long sermon coming about Shairs rebuttal.
Shabir is proven wrong, but he slips and slides hoping you don't @fact chech@ him.
Here goes! .
Peter in Acts 2 - Go to what Peter preached, Peter quoted the 16th psalm -- Shabir says, this psalm is not about someone who died. Really?
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
*Psalms 16:10* To NOT leave someone's soul in Sheol, the place of the dead, they must be IN IT.
(ref. Jonah's body was in the belly of the whale, but his SOUL was in Sheil. Jonah died and his soul was separated from his body when he died. His body and his soul were reunited so he came back to life)
(ref. John 11:39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days. - bodies became corrupted after 3 days, they started to decompose).
So Psalm 16 talks about someone who died, tsk, tsk Shabir.
Psalm 118.
Jesus quotes part of this psalm about himself.
Just after he gives the parable referring to his being killed by the Jews.
And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him. *Matthew 21:35-39*
How do we know that Jesus means the priests and Pharisees?
It tells us...........
Mat 21:45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.
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I called Dr Ally, "Shabir, the snippeteer"
Because he loves to snip bits out to "prove his points" while ignoring the surrounding context that refutes him.
"Someone who came close to death" whereas the parable about the priests and Pharisees tells us what they do to the son (Jesus).
"But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, *_and slew him._*
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Shabir goes on about the evolution of the gospels, yet the earliest scriptures have the highest Christology.
From before AD 64 -
Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
*1 Corinthians 15:12-22*
Poor Shabir, he is lost and he knows it.
He is like the rich young man who obeys the law and believes he is righteous. But he still knows he lacks something.
The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept [The ten commandments] from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
*Matthew 19:20-22*
Shabir has his position as an Imam, a teacher, a celebrity, his pride. Shabir will turn his back on Jesus with much sorrow because he does not want to give up his worldly achievements, poor Shabir.
{pray his eyes will open and his heart be open to the gospel he knows so well yet still rejects.}
Dr Shabbir Ally practically destroyed that liar David Wood in all the debates Alhamdulila...
Kanuni Sultan Suleyman Satan was the one who appeared to Mohhamad in the cave disguised as an angel of light
@@corvanlopez5869 who Satan tell almost everything same like bible? Lol
@@corvanlopez5869 why are there so many good things in quran and it syss worship 1 god lol satan made crishtanity not islam
Let us not forget, that Jesus had to become a human and live as a human Just like we. I take it truly seriously.
lol then who did he pray to eloi eloi lama sabachtani
Have you no shame to worship a man who used the bathroom and passed wind? He is an honorable man who delivered God's message, nothing more.
@@SuperZeromagGo to Psalm 22, read literally the first line
Muslims can’t see, their spiritual blindness is a punishment for all their evil deeds I believe
No, the authors put down, what Jesus was preaching truly himself!
Jazakhallahu khairan ya sheikh.
I can't stop laughing after he said therefore Qur'an is false 🤣, is your bible pure then ?
Bro you are right
can you prove that bible has been corry??
Bible is true hence Quran is false
@@jennerthejas9339 the word Bible is not found on Bible so therefore Bible is false
@@y.agamer4159 what illogical techniques r u using!?
If u want to prove Koran is right, every verses & chapters of the Koran should become true.. no mistakes should be there..
U have to prove in that way ❕❕
Thank you!
YES !!! JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS! AND ON THE THIRD DAY HE ROSE FROM THE DEAD !!! NO ARGUMENT NEEDED, JESUS CHRIST WHO IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA SAID IT HIMSELF !!! IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION; JOHN THE DIVINE SAID! Revelation 1:17-18 KJV
[17] And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last: [18] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. NO ARGUMENT NEEDED JUST READ THE BIBLE AND YOU WILL KNOW THE TRUTH!!!
Microclouds Ph 3 days huh? So dying Friday night and rising on Sunday is totally 3 days and 3 nights huh?
You clearly didn’t watch the video
Oh so god died I see
@Flicker OP YES YOU SAID THAT I AM DUMB , THATS WHAT YOU THINK YOU DON’T BELIEVE IN THE WORDS OF GOD WHICH IS THE BIBLE! YOU THOUGHT YOU ARE WISE BUT YOU BECAME FOOL AND IN THE END OF YOUR LIFE YOU’LL REGRET IF YOU WILL NOT SEARCH THE TRUTH! SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE BOOK OF REVELATION IS A FICTION CREATED BY JOHN! JESUS APOSTLES, WHERE DID YOU GET THAT IDEA? HOW SURE ARE YOU THAT YOU ARE RIGHT !! MAN! REMEMBER IF YOU ARE WRONG YOU’LL GO TO HELL BECAUSE YOU DESPISED,INSULTED, SHOWED IRREVERENCE TO THE WORDS OF GOD AND THAT IS BLASPHEMY! ACCORDING TO OUR HOLY BOOK , ALL SIN CAN BE FORGIVEN BY GOD EXCEPT BLASPHEMY!!! WHEN YOU BLASPHEME THE HOLY GHOST THERE IS NO FORGIVENESS! NOTE: FOR YOUR INFO THE WORDS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE ARE NOT ORDINARY WORDS THEY ARE SPIRIT!!
John 6:63 KJV
[63] It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
@@microcloud According to Bible Jesus Pbuh was a fake Prophet Nauzubillah
Book of Deuteronomy says that who is crucified is cursed
and Jesus was crucified according to the bible And thus a Fake prophet.....?
Shabir Ally look very calm and nice person ❤
People like David Wood remind me that leaving christianity was the right choice!
I really do appreciate him for that!
Hope that's not your permanent choice dude. It's not too late.
@@majorianus8055 Thanks for your concern, but i didn't become Muslim for nothing, i come from a very religious christian family and have studied both christianity and Islam thoroughly and only Islam makes sense. I can put forward many reasons why christianity is a false religion using the bible. If you can prove Islam to be a false religion then bring foraward your evidence, i would love to see.
@@aceb250 first you prove to me how it was possible for Muhammad (pbuh) to be the author of the Quran?
@@abayomrunkojemusa9086
Salam brother,
You are 💯 correct
@@abayomrunkojemusa9086 the quran was around before muhummad was born muhummad was illiterate lmao who is muhummads father? wait wasnt muhummad born four years after his father died? how is that possible? lmao you people make me laugh lmao
way, truth and life
only Jesus saves
@35:30 woods says "he never seen someone want to die for something they made up". Hello... ? Therefore Islam is fact . We are willing to die for it
Michael .Stott
You missed the point - he is saying someone who actively invented a lie. Rather than someone who believes a lie is the truth as that's just deception.
mystaree82 Quran isn't a lie
mystaree82 well
Quran said no harm was done to him... maybe the prophet Jesus was being crucified but never felt the pain???
mystaree82 Quran also said we can't be resurrected until after the day if judgement..and that hasn't happened. ?? Unless Jesus was the first to face trial and enter heaven after he dies. But hard to believe that. Jesus most likely hasn't experience death yet.
mystaree82 jesus wasn’t harmed at all,he was saved from the punishment and the torture,God saved him
I would want a athiest's honest review as to who made more sense between the two. The christians say david, muslims say shabir, so who won?
The disciples didn't recognize him because it wasn't him
3:13:13 David don't know
David another pure joker, less proof and self pro claimed
Too many ads. I am trying to listen and every two minutes or so, there is an ad.
Dr Shabbir Ally is absolutely amazing person
And David Wood made an accusation [39:02/3:25:03] by arguing, "Allah did an amazing job tricking everyone!."
Of course, Allah is the supreme schemer as according to [Qur'an Surah Ali-'Imran: 54], "And they (the unbelieving Jews) schemed (to kill 'Isa), but Allah schemed. And(remember that) Allah is the supreme schemer (and can fail any evil scheme)." In this ayat of surah or verse, Allah shows the Jews who did the scheming that He [Allah] is more supreme schemer than the Jews!
The Jews being schemed [or Allah did an amazing job by tricking the Jews or the Romans!] is Allah's punishment for them [the Jews or the Romans!]for wanting to kill Isa[translated: Jesus Christ!]and it is Allah's "Choice" according to His "Wisdom."
For example, David Wood has done evil things that couldn't be forgiven!. If Allah put David Wood into the hellfire, do you think that Allah is doing an evil job just because Allah put David Wood in hellfire?!
No! it is Allah's punishment for David Wood! And it is Allah's "Choice" according to His "Wisdom."
According to the Quran in [Surah Al-Hashr:23-24], "He is Allah, besides Whom there is no other god. He is the Sovereign Lord(of the universe), the Holy One, the One Free from all Defects, the Giver of Peace, the Guardian, the Almighty, the All-Powerful(can defeat all), and the Supreme. Utterly remote is Allah in His limitless glory from anything to which men may ascribe a share in His divinity!. He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver(from non-being to being), the Bestower of forms (shaping His creations the way He wanted them). To Him belongs the most beautiful and noble names. All that is in heavens and earth extols His limitless glory. And He is the Almighty, the All-Wise."
So now, where are the Jews? Where are the Romans? Where is David Wood?
The "Hellfire" is Allah's punishment for David Wood for doing evil things [or just because!] David Wood is not following Allah's commandment.
Unless [if] in Christianity there is no concept of "hell" [and whereas] there is only "heaven" in Christianity [only then!] David Wood's accusation is right!.
Who is David Wood when compare to Allah?
David wood not compatible for Shabbir Aly. Ha mumbling plus I find his not clear enough
Thank you, doctor shabir ally! David wood and shabir ally, thank you very much!
Did Jesus Rise From The Dead?
I wanna see Anthony Rogers debate Sami Zaatari at George Mason University
Anthony is no better than David
Woods with his humour should have mentioned how many people believe that Elvis presley is still alife or came back from death , how many since he died have seen him, if we do not have TVs and so on people would have claimed that Elvis is an angel and was a giant ......
Sabbir sir won debate Alhamdulillah
satan thinks so too but its the blind leeding the blind here
The verse u Qouted from Quran chapter 61 verse 14 which says Allah has aided the true believers ... is refering to before Allah raised Jesus to heaven. Jesus was with them. Dont mis lead people. See the begining of the veese Jesus himself speaking
You will never get the level of respect to Christian debaters in manner a Christian majority audience will give to Muslim debaters and that in itself says a lot - well done to David and I hold a fair respect to Shabir although I disagree with his world view, at least he has respect and a good attitude.
David Wood doesn't even respect his God lol he said that God was cursed
@@abhmd4481 That is how our sins have been paid for, there is no other name given under heaven whereby we must be saved.
was a great religious debate
Shabbir ally won
@Seto Relentless Crusader Kaiba Why quote that verse? What relevance does it have? Why ask that question when the answer is in front of you? Why??? How does this have anything with Allah SWT lying? You do realize that Allah is the Arabic word for God? You're insulting God you moran. I love it that you think in your mind you're doing something but it quite the opposite. You don't follow your Bible, you're insulting other beliefs. Also while I'm at it explain this: “Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will’” (Matthew 26:39).
I'll give my explanation you give me yours then. In Islam, Muslims pray by prostrating and setting their forehead on the ground in the direction of the Kaba. This is telling me that Jesus was not a God but in-fact a messenger, and besides that... why is God himself praying to another diety?
Is it true that MUHAMMAD accepted?
Revelation/Surah in Cave Hira?,
if HE did received Revelation in Cave Hira,
Then why are there so many sources of 114 Surahs?
from the Bible? It means that someone is cheating from
the previous books, are not sourced from Divine Revelation.
Lailala Illallah Muhammad ur Rasoolullah.....
Who won this deebate
David for sure, idk why there’s Muslims all over the place saying he lost, the cope is real 😂
3:15:00 david wood struggle & was so confused because he couldn't reconcile that fact hat jesus is cursed.. he was even suprised that jesus is cursed lol .. that's why christianity is false from A to Z .
why was so many people wrong about Thor or so many other Gods
Debate starts at 14:50
Thanks for the info
I watched some of the debates live. But I was too late.
Who won?
Yusuf Chebi it's to long to know who that's the problem
Azim Ashraf : Try to figure it out bro
Yusuf Chebi bro I would but it's just to long to figure that out but what difference does it make really we all know that it's Jesus is crucified really. It's really Judas Iscariot the betrayer of Jesus
Azim Ashraf : who did the people voted for
Yusuf Chebi obviously if you look at it davids fans clearly voted for him and the Shabirs fans they would have voted for him. But I'm going to watch the full debate and have a good look at it I will let you know brother.
Thank you Shabir
First Shabir states confirms that the ayat regarding Jesus’ pbuh crucifixtion may seem to state that Jesus pbuh was not place on the cross however he explains that the passage only confirms that the Jews did not KIll or crucified him it only appeared that way and he brilliantly explains his stance on this by first stating that we must take into consideration that Jesus pbuh may have been nailed to the cross but did not die on it. Which would still indicate he was not crucified. Therefore the substitution scenario may not be the only way to look at this. He describes this with the “being hung” and actually “hunged” meaning at the beginning. Then Next he explains that it is possible that Jesus pbuh did not die while on the cross based on timeframes etc. Shabir also points out the changes in scriptures between Mark,Luke,John. Showing witnesses and what they saw and how this has changed etc. Shabir states that the Muslim perspective is that Allah swt raised Jesus pbuh up to him and that this could be before death. Based on the Quran it states that when we sleep we are raised to him. Therefore is it
possible that when Jesus appeared to have died on the cross and was put in the tomb. That while he was in the tomb (sleeping/unconscious) Allah swt raised him so that he would not die? Confirming scriptures of empty tomb and seeing Jesus again. This could also explain Zakat.
This reasoning from Shabir is possible. Because the statement is ambiguous in the Quran there are several ways we can look and still believe that Jesus pbuh was not crucified and Allah swt heard his prayers and he was saved.
Christ purchased us,+ releasing us+ from the curse of the Law by becoming a curse instead of us, because it is written: “Accursed is every man hung upon a stake. Please note mentions he curse of the Law, (Mosiac Law) Please Note that LAw showed up be sinners without a doudt the Nation of isarel God people had sins acoording the law. both john and jesus were preaching batism why sins against the LAw Mosiac law Understanding this help unlock the rest of the verse
You are a good man, David Wood!
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Lol he may be a good man, but his debate is trash.
This is one of these debates when one side will never be able to convince the other. If Jesus rose from the dead - Mohammad is a false prophet and Islam falls. If He did not - Christianity falls. That's it. It is that simple.
It’s not meant to convince the opposing speaker; debates are meant to illuminate where each side draws their lines, and then the audience can decide one way or the other.
Wow Shabir nailed it
The guys whom questioned David Wood, salute to y’all, what some powerful questions !
David Wood needs to go back to the woods and team up with Bigfoot
😂😂😂
Lol
Devil can speak lie through human be careful oh Christian.
I love shabbir ally.David "sister wood" really got a beating
A.a I also as a da'ee would like to have a discussion with David wood if anyone has connections we can arrange for a discussion.
Have you debated him yet? I want to see.
Shabir is very smart man.
Yeah, he's just as smart as the Quran. Lies
The truth of Islam prevails over falsehood.
Why did they bother to debate with this guy he’s just hilarious he makes Christians look bad please get rid of him😭😭
Because Dr. Shabir can’t disprove Christ’s resurrection using the Quran (the Quran has nothing concerning the resurrection), he has to believe the Bible to disproved the Bible’s account of the resurrection. I wonder whether now he’s become a believer of the Bible, which was corrupt. I wonder whether a Muslim should worry about a “corrupt” text. Well, this is only what non-Christians do; they have to assume Christianity in order to disprove it, or else, they have no ground to stand on.
So will David become a Muslim?
Muslims actually like David👍
@zCyclic YT muslims made david wood the most famous
@zCyclic YT oh we love 💕 this guy for all the right reasons. Because stupidity is adorable.
@@muhammadhashir6136 😂
Muslims like David Wood because he's making so many Christians revert to Islam because of his ignorance. Thanks DW!!
Yes he did. "These things I do yee shall do, and yee shall do greater things than I, and more" My answer
I have come that ye my have life and have it abundantly" THOU SHALL NOT KILL
Tom Harpur
“ I will clearly document that there s nothing Jesus of the Gospels either said or did from the sermon on the mount to the miracles, from his flight as an infant from Herod to the resurrection itself- that cannot be shown to have originated thousands of years before, in Egyptian Mystery rites and other sacred liturgies such as the Egyptian book of dead.
Everything- from the star in the east to Jesus’ walking on water from the angels pronouncement to the slaughters of the innocents by Herod, from the temptation in the wilderness to the changing of water into wine- already existed in the Egyptian sources. Egypt and its peoples had knelt at the shrine of the Madonna and child ISIS and Horus for many long centuries before any allegedly historical Mary lifted a supposedly historical Jesus in her arms. But for all those centuries before the translation of the Rosetta Stone by Champollion in 1822, the ancient key to all this Egyptian material had been lost. Centuries of blissful ignorance went by. Now since the translation of the books of old Egypt- the Egyptian book of the Dead, the pyramid Texts, the Amduat, and the book of Thoth, for example-there is irrefutable proof that not one single doctrine, rite tenet or usage in Christianity was in reality a fresh contribution to the world of religion. Alvin Boyd Kuhn puts it tersely when he says that entire body of Christian doctrine is simply a revamped and mutilated Egyptianism. These may seem extremely blunt words, but a full reading of his works reveals the mountain of undeniable evidence he has to back them up”
Tom Hurpur. The pagan Christ
Great discussion. Dr. Shabbir Aly is so eloquent and so right. May Allah empower him to speak for the religion of Allah Islam.
We should not be scared of the death, but we should think of the death the same as we should think about our birth, our life and our death!
That is why islam will lead people to hell
The Catholics say “momento mori”. Yes this is an ancient idea. Remember your death and judgement.