Richard yasin Sloten ,,... refusing to see truth... Wood puts Muslims to rest. Islam is Satan's work. deny to your own destruction... Jesus is the ONLY way...
@@hayday5246, prove using Qur'an verses please. haSatan has nothing to do with the way of Submission, don't they rid of him before their daily worship?
When someone believes in the wrong thing anxiety sets inside their hearts...thus it's hard n impossible for such a heart to retain any information. Muslims not only memorize the book, message, revelation, words, advice and heavenly information sent to them...they also memorize the lies that infiltrated the old books of God. check out Zakir Naik n Ahmed Deedad....along with the thousands training under them. they memorized all the lengthy books claimed under God's word...to examine n show the truth
+Chris Ramirez As you saying that there's more violent passages in the quran than the bible? Secondly you can pick any topic regarding the bible or the quran and we can debate anytime you want. Thirdly we are all brainwashed but let us see who's brainwashed BETTER.
+Luke Johnson Not really considering that it's very typical of muslims to memorize scripture while Christians usually memorize verses without their context.
+mike younes Is that the best comment you can come up with a man uses a computer, lol! If you ask me this is a perfect example of why Muslims continue to follow Mohammad because they continue to be stuck on stupid, still following the teachings of this unholy prophet MAY THE WRATH OF GOD BE UPON HIM! Mohammad , lol! You couldn't leave your wife and 9 year old daughter alone with this sicko cause you'd come home to your wife knocked up and daughter getting molested cause Allah told him to do it! That's a fact my friend. Consider the character of Mohammad and all his Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep! Mohammad is burning in Hell as we speak for sending millions of people to hell by turning them away from the real Jesus that could save them! Jesus was no prophet! Jesus is the way the truth and the life!
I'm not a muslim.. I grew up Christian... It's no coincidence that most Sunday Sermons are taught from Paul. The Romans and Paul did quite the hit job on the religion. I can't really call myself a Christian anymore because logic won't allow me to believe in it. It's very reasonable to believe that Paul was deceived by Satan. Any Christian that looks at this issue objectively (not through Christian lenses) can easily come to this conclusion. Any way, no point of debating either side in the comment section. No one here will change anyone's mind. Whatever you believe is your business. As a very confused person, I just wanted to say to the Christian: The religion should be able to stand up to scrutiny. Do your own research into the truth. Read the scriptures for yourself and you will see how different Paul's teachings were from Jesus. Christians are really Paulians. Forget everything you ever thought about the religion and learn it objectively. We are afraid to be wrong. That would be a lot of wasted time. Loved ones died believing this. Great Books about the issue are "Jesus Words Only" "The Brother of Jesus" and "Paul and Jesus: How the Apostle transformed Christianity". Research the ebionites. Reread the scriptures again with this new enlightenment. If after all that, you still adhere to modern Christianity, Good for you. Be comfortable believing what you believe as truth. As for the Muslims: I'm sure a lot can be said about your religion as well. On the surface, I'll willingly admit that it's more logical but I'm sure flaws can be found. I haven't done enough research to know but I will start reading the Quran and Hadiths this month. I can definitely let you know that rude comments and remarks about Christians will not help convince them. They adhere to Christianity because they strongly believe in their heart that it's true. It's been pushed on most Christians for their entire life from toddler aged Sunday School to adulthood. Every prayer is ended in Jesus name. Christmas carols, movies, easter (all of which has nothing to do with Jesus) has been followed for decades. The entire country takes part in Christian festivals. School easter egg painting or Christmas decorations. Football prayers. Everything. You must convince with compassion and love. If your side is the truth, you should be ambassadors for God and push people toward this truth. Being nasty does not help. As far as the debate in this video, David Wood is being the nasty one. He's very arrogant. He makes his own points against his beliefs (slightly twisting Ally's point) and then defends his beliefs against the points he himself made. Shabir Ally is behaving like a true scholar and a gentleman. I really appreciate the way Ally articulates his points and rebuts points made by David.
Brother an excellent review/comments. I wish every body carries out a critical analysis of the prevailing religions i.e. Islam or Christianity then imagine what will be our fate life hereafter because here we are sitting in an exam hall we may or may not attempt the paper but on the day of result (judgement) imagine if failed then what will happen and there is no second chance. Therefore we need to study and practice the syllabus (Religion) given by Allah Almighty so that we all pass. Keeping eyes closed doesn't mean we are safe and will go unchecked.
F Brzzy I hope you’ve read the Quran and came to the realization that it’s impossible for man to have created it, have looked up miracles of the Quran for yourself just for reassurance and utter awe and amazement and have finally declared yourself a servant of our Creator, Cherisher and Sustainer of all the Worlds and wish His blessings upon you in this life and in the hereafter. ✌🏼🤲🏼☝🏼
That's great; but isn't that for a "Christian" already dead in their sins per Gospel according to Matthew? And what about the 12 others, are they messengers too?
God is one sovereign entity who has no son/ part. Jesus is prophet of God. If Almighty God can create Adam without parents why not Jesus without father? Jesus is respective prophet, not part/ son of God. If Almighty God wants to do anything, He just command a word " Be" and it was. Jesus was created a direct word ( command) of God in virgin womb. That's why, He is titled as " word of God." After Jesus, Gospel was written in hebrew & greek by mark, Matthew, john, Luke and they added many word from their own. For example, Jesus adressed his God as aramaic word " Rabb" meaning Lord which was written in hebrew " Aabb" meaning Father. Jesus said him " word of God" which is true. In the begginning of Gospel, John distorted the true meaning of " word of God" and gave his own explanation. "Word of God" is title of Messiah & it is not relating to the God's everlasting uncreated unchanged entity. Whereas Gospel writter John introduced the idea of existing 2 god[...... Word with (first) God, Word is( second) God ] in the begginning of Gospel without understanding the meaning of word of God. Jesus spoke on aramaic where God name is Alaha which is similar to arabic Allah. Arabs inherited the name of God " Allah " since the period of Prophet Abraham & his son Ismael ( peace be upon on them). Early zews distorted the holy name of God & made it plural form " elohim ". Then they borrowed wargod name Yahweh from surrounding pagans.
The so-called "Gospel of Jesus" is either: Jesus' words in the Qur'an, or any of the sayings gospels such that of Thomas. At least that's how I put it...
The last point of David's 10 points of why one should acknowledge Paul's teaching a true apostle of Jesus is flawed and counter productive to his presentation. David by default is saying that the Christian message is weak and does not accomplish its desired end (that all should be saved) because the 'devil' has more followers than Jesus.
DharmProtectionGroup you have research todo. There are many christians who see paul for who is was. An infultrator a liar a curruptor and someone who brought alot of confusion.
According to Christians, Jesus had a brother named James, which means: James is god's brother James' father is god's step father James' kids are god's nephews and neises Wow!
Hey Ms Faizah, I can truly understand your conclusion, all because if you misunderstand the incarnation of Christ, but if truly got to reconciling what the incarnation of Jesus means. You will surely see how simplistic you charge really is!
I dont knovv vvhy Shabir is debating such rude and primtive persons like David VVood ? especially the nevv "islamize me" Series shovvd his true hatefull nature. Imam Shafii (r) said. "I never had a debate vvith a knovvledgeable person except i vvon the debate and i never had a debate vvith a stupid person except i lost the debate" And thats the truth. As vve savv in the "debate" David absolutly does not care vvhat Shabir has to say. He just read from his Mc Book vvhat he or ven other people prepared and shovvs absolutly no interesst in vvhat Shabir said. And at the same time he`s often very rude and even insulting. And these are tactics vvhich Shabir vvould not use because he has a good character and because islam teaches us this good behaviour. But David even says that the bibel i commanding christians to insult, demonize and mock others. So i dont undertand hovv christian can follovv evil persons like him and vvhy Shabir is debating people like him ? He tried to kill his ovvn father vvith a hammer and he still has the same hatefull dark attitude and arrogant and creepy behaviour. He dont care vvhat other people think or feel and he himself admitted that he is still a psychopath in his comment about Nabeel vvith vvhado you memme and in his nevv comment about James VVhite. So this guy is mentally ill and full of hate. He reads muslim scriptures and trys to interpretate them in the most radical vvay. And of course a lot of christians like this. but this only shovvs that they are vveak believers. Because strong believers vvould have no problem vvith reading Koran and Sunnah i a honest vvay vvithout interpretating them in the most hatefull vvay and vvithout letting people vvho hate islam interpretate them. Honest people vvho are convinced of their believe vvould have no need to lie and to demonize islamic scriptures. But it seems that that is not the case. A lot of christians are afraid because of the povverfull and great alternative called Islam, vvhich became the fastest grovving religion in the vvorld.
Christians claim to be filled with Holy Spirit. But lot of Christians become atheist by hearing the arguments of atheists such as Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and also people like Bart Ehrman . Their arguments drive the Holy Spirit out of them. So guess what these people are more powerful then Holy Spirit. This whole argument is illogical that Allah failed miserably (nauzibillah) to Paul. That's the problem with David he can't see himself being refuted. Shabbir refutes him but he keeps saying the same thing. This is more like a street level debate
The Pauline Heresy is the worlds biggest heresy ever in the history of mankind. We invite David Wood and all you Christians out there to the religion of Islam.
_ While Paul is mentioned in the Commentaries of Sunnis as True, he is mentioned in the Books of Shiites as an Accursed person. - He was cursed by the Imams of Shiites.
Wood is confused and didn't know what was he saying. He just ignore the facts stated by shabir and repeat s his stupid accustomed and rigid and stubborn ideas
David Wood is the kind of person one should be very careful with.. regardless of your faith.. he believes in something that is preached by Paul and also AFFIRMED by Paul which is just stupid and you should be careful cuz he twists words and keeps that smug expression to deceive people
what the hell does this david are talking about this debate, he going out and get back in and flying around the sky, does he know how to debate with the topic, I'm not a scholar but he really downgrades himself as a debater, so funny...............
This is wrong. Its not about the difference its about whats the same. Too much energy trying to blame, prove, and win. We are all children of God. I am a Muslim.
@@herisusanto8182 Muhammad came to bring the "most glorieus book" but couldn't write or read. 1. Who said Jesus couldn't write or read. He clearly knew the Scriptures and recited them and also we have also evidence that He did know to write. 2. Why is it of importance that Jesus wrote a book at all?
POST.1- well is a liar by default a deceiver ? if i had to answer i would say yes, there is as much difference between a liar and a deceiver as there IS between water and being WET.IF WE LOOK AT THE BIBLE IT SAYS JOB.25;4 - How can anything born of WOMEN BE PURE paul and jesus both came from the woomb of a WOMEN ALSO READ - 1 KINGS .8;46 ALL SIN.SO can paul be a deceiver hell yes. now lets look at one example of a multitude of examples where paul lied . i believe this example captures the general over all flavor of pauls willing urge to lie on and of his own accord or to lie as a result of advice.
No need to spread hate whether Christian or Muslim. They're clearly debating respectfully so why are the comments not the same. Surah 109, Verse 6: "To you your religion and to me mine."
Jesus(pbuh) spoke the Aramaic Language, Jesus(pbuh) in the Bible mentions God many times.. Bible "No one is good except GOD! "Jesus answered "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our GOD IS ONE!" Now Christian's are going to hate this as they almost all do, but facts or facts either you accept it or remain in denial. READY... Jesus spoke Aramaic, how do you say God in Aramaic .... "ALLAH!
Jesus is son of God. Son of God hang by his own followers Jesus is born by Mary there is none of single chapter on Mary. There is none of single chapter on his father. Jesus never accept he is god Everything Paul assuming And Christian is in trouble One God Second Jesus son of God who never accept . Third spirit if Paul got spirit why he lie and if Jesus disciples is got spirit why they help to caught Jesus . I think chrishnallity is manipulate and lie God, son of God, spirit and Paul .😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Amazing facts
POST.2- Paul persuades some of the jews of ICONIUM to give up the law of moses = ACTS.14;1 . When he comes to jerusalem he was told that the jews know what he did and they also WILL FIND out that he is here in jerusalem = ACTS.21;21-22 , Paul was in potentially big TROUBLE James and the elders advise paul HOW TO GET OUT OF TROUBLE now read ACTS.21;23-24 WHERE HE IS ADVISED TO LIE THROUGH HIS TEETH TO THE POINT he follows there advice to the letter TO THE POINT THAT HE EVEN GOES AGAINST HIS PRINCIBLES OF BEING AGAINST SACRAFICE = ACTS.21;26.
I thought David did a great job in this debate, he made many great points using a justifiable context of the verses he cited. Shabbir did a great job too.
The ad @ 58:00 basically sums up how ridiculous ABN is as a channel, old guys who probably support Donald Trump asking for donations to keep their hate scheme running,
@@exactormortis7433 in a way, but most religious people overlook the original languages. They assume that 'angels" are winged beings sent from on high. What is "true" is relative and applies to one's interpretation and experience; truth of anything needs to be tested through philosophical "scientific methods". It evolves with its philosopher...
It's important for any religious debater to have an intimate knowledge of the book he's trying to discredit he knows shit , I'm going to watch Bart ehrman.
It is very clear that Paul taught a different view of Jesus's teaching than that of the original apostles of Jesus. He modified the Jewish concept of what Jesus taught and that is what caused the gentiles to gravitate towads his teaching.
David Wood destroyed Shabir Ally.... Ally no longer even cares about the hadiths because he knows that it's easier to reject there validity in order to grip on to his faith....
Bismillah! Paul was a man just like any one in our present religious preachers who have their own desires & ambitions that only them & Allah know. Not all that any preacher will say to people are words not contrary to (God)Allah's Words in the Quran or in the Gospel of Jesus. There is none in the Gospel of Jesus that he is the son of God or one of the Trinity of the Bible of the Apostles who were men whom we know not their background. Bible is of the Apostles but not of Jesus who received the Gospel of Allah. Astagfirullah! Subhanallah! Allahu'akbar! Yah Allah, I submit to Your Mighty Will!
I am not a christian nor am I a muslim but I watched this video with eyes wide open. The sense I got from Wood is the same I have gotten from most christians in my life. He does a lot of off topic stabs at his opponents god and instead of proving him wrong just simply takes jabs at his opponents religion and god in a sad attempt to make his opponent feel incompetent for believing what he believes. Obviously the christians watching would agree and believe he is doing great but I have to disagree. Shabir was more on topic and professional and did not buckle under the weight of his opponents remarks. He stayed focus. I myself do not see Islam as truth nor christianity. I read and believe the torah and some of the rest of the “old testament”. I have no dog in this fight personally. I think anyone who truly studies the bible, will see that the new testament is not anything to bet your life on. I came from a christian back ground and from where I am from, muslims are anti christian and we should automatically assume anything that comes from their mouth is hate toward christians. Also that the new state of Israel is biblical and it is our duty to support them because they are God’s people. All I have to say about that is I am glad I got away from the influence of christianity, or paulianity. I feel closer to God now than ever and now I can clearly see the fallacy in the religion. So any one who knows a christian and would like to convert away from christianity, just remember what they have been taught all their life. Remember the brain washing they have received. Peace to all.
David Wood was pathetic liar and still pathetic liar. At the conclusion he said "Allah promised people to protect Gospel and Allah revealed Gospel as revelation to mankind"? Where did he get this? He is obvious liar
David Wood the cross-dresser believes the lies he himself narrated, is this not a Paulinist ? Why all the argument when Romans 3: 7 is enough to show where Saul/Paul's stand. Can truth increases through LIES and untruth ? Could this Romans 3: 7 be words of someone who received his 'commission' directly from Jesus ?
Well you got to see this. In the debates against Islam David has no problem going second because he can throw lot of things against islam some with context some without. It is not easy to refute all the arguments in 7 or 5 mins. But in the debates against Christianity he goes first and finishes last so that he can make a strong concluding statement that would make viewer thinks as if he has won it. Also in the 2 debates the other day we saw in the first debate David was given an opportunity to ask 3 questions/make statements against islam and it was expected from Shabbir to respond without giving him an opportunity and in the second one they did not give this opportunity to Shabbir. All he wants is to win the debate or makes viewer think as if he has won. Shabbir refuted his arguments but he keeps bringing the same arguments until other person gets frustrated. He should learn something from Dr. James White who debates to remove misconception regarding his religion, concepts and scripture. Whereas for this guy losing debate means losing million dollars
You don't believe in the Christian testimony (NT) as that is where you centered your attack. (unbelief) and we don't believe in your bible and that Mohammad was a true prophet. So where does that get us? Interesting enough it was Paul who made a careful distinction between "God" and "Lord" not captured in orthodox trinity statements. Paul=>Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live Jesus is God's Christ. It was God who set Jesus above even the angels of God. hence it was God who made Jesus both "Lord" and "Christ" not any man. Jesus=>Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been GIVEN to me. 19THEREFORE go and make disciples of ALL NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
after 41 minutes and 45 seconds, I stopped watching. *Let us look at the debate so far* Dr Wood gave his 10 points and Dr Ally gave us his points. There was a few minutes of squabbling between them over Luke and Mark lying about Paul to make him look better. Dr Ally admitted that just because Mark and Luke knew Paul that did not mean they were lying for him. Then the "Great Book Debate" started, they were quoting here and they were quoting there, somebody wrote this and somebody wrote that, was it not handy that they had the books with them !! *What a farce*
1- You might be thinking like you discovered a fact. Perhaps many people will praise you for your discovery. But you will be leading many people to hell, pushing many people into doubts on word of God. Will that satisfy you? 2- It seems like you are questioning God on why He used Paul. 3- There were misunderstanding about Christ coming onto earth, during Jesus birth and His ministry. 4- Paul's ministry was focused for gentiles. Reaching to Gentiles is Jesus' one of the mission. There is no doubt, Paul's ministry aligned with Gentiles. 5- You can find Peter supporting Paul's work. "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. (2 Peter 3:15-16 ESV)' 6- All the false teaching including Islam wants to prove Paul was a false teacher. But the Scripture (Bible) is written with the instruction of Holy Spirit. (You may or may not believe it. But God made it).
I think the next debate should be with a Christian wall, as in go to a church, find a wall and debate with it. At least the silence from the wall would be more logical than whatever these people are saying.
cross dresser David woods...are you the next kylie Jenner👠👗💅💄 since you put out your rehearsal dresses on UA-cam. don't in doubt check it out on UA-cam. ..David wood cross dressed
Bismillah! Paul was a man just like any one in our present religious preachers who have their own desires & ambitions that only them & Allah know. Not all that any preacher will say to people are words not contrary to (God)Allah's Words in the Quran or in the Gospel of Jesus. There is none in the Gospel of Jesus that he is the son of God or one of the Trinity of the Bible of the Apostles who were men whom we know not their background. Bible is of the Apostles but not of Jesus who received the Gospel of Allah. Gospel of Jesus is of Allah swt but the Bible of varied versions & interpretations of men whom we know not their identity, background, desires, purposes & ambitions in this Life, is not of Jesus as Christians claim. Astagfirullah! Subhanallah! Allahu'akbar! Yah Allah, I submit to Your Mighty Will!
Although the Qur'an came 600 years later but it corrects all the mistakes in the Bible, for example the Bible when God created the world in six days he rested on the 7th days 😂 the Qur'an tells God created the Universe in six days and he never got tired, also the Qur'an tells us that prophet Solomon didn't become idol worshiper and worshipped idols towards the end of his life but it was the demons who went astray 😊
@@zahraabdullah4154 lol the God of the bible “rested” in completion of His perfect creation, not in the sense that he got tired. Also, the bible doesnt hide the fact the solomon did have multiple wives and had become idol worshipper due to influence of his wives. But it also shows the consequences of his actions because the God of Bible(YHWH) is a righteous and just God. I find it funny that you quote solomon when in fact muhammad was a pedophile, allowed rape of women captives, allowed adult suckling of breast, beheaded captives , slavery. Is that your moral example? Hahahahaha because my moral example is Jesus Christ, not solomon 😅😅😅😅😅 the desperation of a muslim defending his pedophile muhamad 🤣
@@Soldier-of-Messiah-Yeshuawithout Muhammed ﷺ marrying Aisha, what other problem you have with Islam? Clearly shows it’s the truth and you just want an excuse to not accept it
What a debate and a humiliation for David Wood.
Dr.Shabir Ally did a great job!!
+Richard yasin Sloten may G-d forgive this deceived David Wood. :)
Richard yasin Sloten ,,... refusing to see truth... Wood puts Muslims to rest. Islam is Satan's work. deny to your own destruction... Jesus is the ONLY way...
A wonderful victory to David Wood; proven by the shaken attitude of Shabir Ally to the truths that he couldn't rebut.
@@hayday5246, prove using Qur'an verses please. haSatan has nothing to do with the way of Submission, don't they rid of him before their daily worship?
Funny how the Christian has read from the computer about Christianity while the MUSLIM has the information memorized.
When someone believes in the wrong thing anxiety sets inside their hearts...thus it's hard n impossible for such a heart to retain any information. Muslims not only memorize the book, message, revelation, words, advice and heavenly information sent to them...they also memorize the lies that infiltrated the old books of God.
check out Zakir Naik n Ahmed Deedad....along with the thousands training under them.
they memorized all the lengthy books claimed under God's word...to examine n show the truth
+UmmAdeem I watch deedat and zakir all the time and you are correct.
+Chris Ramirez As you saying that there's more violent passages in the quran than the bible? Secondly you can pick any topic regarding the bible or the quran and we can debate anytime you want. Thirdly we are all brainwashed but let us see who's brainwashed BETTER.
+Luke Johnson Not really considering that it's very typical of muslims to memorize scripture while Christians usually memorize verses without their context.
+mike younes Is that the best comment you can come up with a man uses a computer, lol!
If you ask me this is a perfect example of why Muslims continue to follow Mohammad because they continue to be stuck on stupid, still following the teachings of this unholy prophet MAY THE WRATH OF GOD BE UPON HIM!
Mohammad , lol! You couldn't leave your wife and 9 year old daughter alone with this sicko cause you'd come home to your wife knocked up and daughter getting molested cause Allah told him to do it! That's a fact my friend.
Consider the character of Mohammad and all his Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheep!
Mohammad is burning in Hell as we speak for sending millions of people to hell by turning them away from the real Jesus that could save them! Jesus was no prophet! Jesus is the way the truth and the life!
For a moment i thought , david was about to cry. lol
I'm not a muslim.. I grew up Christian... It's no coincidence that most Sunday Sermons are taught from Paul. The Romans and Paul did quite the hit job on the religion. I can't really call myself a Christian anymore because logic won't allow me to believe in it. It's very reasonable to believe that Paul was deceived by Satan. Any Christian that looks at this issue objectively (not through Christian lenses) can easily come to this conclusion. Any way, no point of debating either side in the comment section. No one here will change anyone's mind. Whatever you believe is your business.
As a very confused person, I just wanted to say to the Christian: The religion should be able to stand up to scrutiny. Do your own research into the truth. Read the scriptures for yourself and you will see how different Paul's teachings were from Jesus. Christians are really Paulians. Forget everything you ever thought about the religion and learn it objectively. We are afraid to be wrong. That would be a lot of wasted time. Loved ones died believing this. Great Books about the issue are "Jesus Words Only" "The Brother of Jesus" and "Paul and Jesus: How the Apostle transformed Christianity". Research the ebionites. Reread the scriptures again with this new enlightenment. If after all that, you still adhere to modern Christianity, Good for you. Be comfortable believing what you believe as truth.
As for the Muslims: I'm sure a lot can be said about your religion as well. On the surface, I'll willingly admit that it's more logical but I'm sure flaws can be found. I haven't done enough research to know but I will start reading the Quran and Hadiths this month. I can definitely let you know that rude comments and remarks about Christians will not help convince them. They adhere to Christianity because they strongly believe in their heart that it's true. It's been pushed on most Christians for their entire life from toddler aged Sunday School to adulthood. Every prayer is ended in Jesus name. Christmas carols, movies, easter (all of which has nothing to do with Jesus) has been followed for decades. The entire country takes part in Christian festivals. School easter egg painting or Christmas decorations. Football prayers. Everything. You must convince with compassion and love. If your side is the truth, you should be ambassadors for God and push people toward this truth. Being nasty does not help.
As far as the debate in this video, David Wood is being the nasty one. He's very arrogant. He makes his own points against his beliefs (slightly twisting Ally's point) and then defends his beliefs against the points he himself made. Shabir Ally is behaving like a true scholar and a gentleman. I really appreciate the way Ally articulates his points and rebuts points made by David.
Did you find any flaws in Islam yet?
Brother an excellent review/comments. I wish every body carries out a critical analysis of the prevailing religions i.e. Islam or Christianity then imagine what will be our fate life hereafter because here we are sitting in an exam hall we may or may not attempt the paper but on the day of result (judgement) imagine if failed then what will happen and there is no second chance. Therefore we need to study and practice the syllabus (Religion) given by Allah Almighty so that we all pass.
Keeping eyes closed doesn't mean we are safe and will go unchecked.
F Brzzy I hope you’ve read the Quran and came to the realization that it’s impossible for man to have created it, have looked up miracles of the Quran for yourself just for reassurance and utter awe and amazement and have finally declared yourself a servant of our Creator, Cherisher and Sustainer of all the Worlds and wish His blessings upon you in this life and in the hereafter. ✌🏼🤲🏼☝🏼
Stay blessed
Conclusion is clear, even my cat can see that Paul hijacked the Jesus of Nazareth teachings and crashed it into heresy...
nope Paul lied!! you supposed to follow the disciples, not the fake apostle Paul!
david wood don't know much about his bible
Shahadah for Christian: "I bear witness that there is no god but Jesus and that Paul is the messenger of Jesus!"
That's great; but isn't that for a "Christian" already dead in their sins per Gospel according to Matthew? And what about the 12 others, are they messengers too?
Br Shabir ally chopped the Wood,..
Dr Ally is too good!! David Wood can’t beat any Muslim lol. He is a lying loser.
I would love to read the Gospel of Jesus himself
Allah is hiding the gospel of Jesus because if obliterate the Quran
God is one sovereign entity who has no son/ part.
Jesus is prophet of God.
If Almighty God can create Adam without parents why not Jesus without father?
Jesus is respective prophet, not part/ son of God.
If Almighty God wants to do anything,
He just command a word " Be" and it was.
Jesus was created a direct word ( command) of God in virgin womb.
That's why, He is titled as " word of God."
After Jesus,
Gospel was written in hebrew & greek by mark, Matthew, john, Luke and they added many word from their own.
For example,
Jesus adressed his God as aramaic word " Rabb" meaning Lord which was written in hebrew " Aabb" meaning Father.
Jesus said him " word of God" which is true.
In the begginning of Gospel,
John distorted the true meaning of " word of God" and gave his own explanation.
"Word of God" is title of Messiah & it is not relating to the God's everlasting uncreated unchanged entity.
Whereas Gospel writter John introduced the idea of existing 2 god[...... Word with (first) God, Word is( second) God ] in the begginning of Gospel without understanding the meaning of word of God.
Jesus spoke on aramaic where God name is Alaha which is similar to arabic Allah.
Arabs inherited the name of God " Allah " since the period of Prophet Abraham & his son Ismael ( peace be upon on them).
Early zews distorted the holy name of God & made it plural form " elohim ".
Then they borrowed wargod name Yahweh from surrounding pagans.
Read mark ❣️
The so-called "Gospel of Jesus" is either: Jesus' words in the Qur'an, or any of the sayings gospels such that of Thomas. At least that's how I put it...
David Wood is talking a lot of nonsense and heresay. Shabir Ali is in a very higher sphere of scholarship.
Sherif El-Hadi david wood give reference from un authentic bible
Is good that Shabir Ali do this to uncover this fakes
😂😂😂😂
He’s pathetic
David Wood is a mental patient Hahahahahhaahahah and he should go back to his mental asylum Asap....
look at woods eyes he cant handle the pressure. It looks like he just wanted to go out form there and cry to his mamy
David got demolished. VERY CLEARLY
Should debates like this be about winning? Or should they be about trying to find the way for which has already been written into our hearts?
The last point of David's 10 points of why one should acknowledge Paul's teaching a true apostle of Jesus is flawed and counter productive to his presentation.
David by default is saying that the Christian message is weak and does not accomplish its desired end (that all should be saved) because the 'devil' has more followers than Jesus.
David wood smh just stop
bwahahahaha
The fact that David Wood reads from the computer is evidence enough that he does not really believe what he is talking about oops reading, lol.
The Muslims are the tue followers of Jesus who prevailed
Yes Alhamdulillah peace and blessings upon all prophet's.
You do realise how that makes no sense right?
How could that possibly the case?
None of the people who knew Jesus called themselves Muslims.
Christians themselves call Paul a deceiver
+Al Ali no they don't only the liberal and Unitarians and Jenovah Witnesses
DharmProtectionGroup you have research todo. There are many christians who see paul for who is was. An infultrator a liar a curruptor and someone who brought alot of confusion.
Don't talk nonsense
Shabir Ally is a smart man but the brother needs to relax while talking.
According to Christians, Jesus had a brother named James, which means:
James is god's brother
James' father is god's step father
James' kids are god's nephews and neises
Wow!
Hey Ms Faizah, I can truly understand your conclusion, all because if you misunderstand the incarnation of Christ, but if truly got to reconciling what the incarnation of Jesus means. You will surely see how simplistic you charge really is!
Maybe study logic ,will help on how to came to logical conclusion
I dont knovv vvhy Shabir is debating such rude and primtive persons like David VVood ? especially the nevv "islamize me" Series shovvd his true hatefull nature. Imam Shafii (r) said. "I never had a debate vvith a knovvledgeable person except i vvon the debate and i never had a debate vvith a stupid person except i lost the debate" And thats the truth. As vve savv in the "debate" David absolutly does not care vvhat Shabir has to say. He just read from his Mc Book vvhat he or ven other people prepared and shovvs absolutly no interesst in vvhat Shabir said. And at the same time he`s often very rude and even insulting. And these are tactics vvhich Shabir vvould not use because he has a good character and because islam teaches us this good behaviour. But David even says that the bibel i commanding christians to insult, demonize and mock others. So i dont undertand hovv christian can follovv evil persons like him and vvhy Shabir is debating people like him ? He tried to kill his ovvn father vvith a hammer and he still has the same hatefull dark attitude and arrogant and creepy behaviour. He dont care vvhat other people think or feel and he himself admitted that he is still a psychopath in his comment about Nabeel vvith vvhado you memme and in his nevv comment about James VVhite. So this guy is mentally ill and full of hate. He reads muslim scriptures and trys to interpretate them in the most radical vvay. And of course a lot of christians like this. but this only shovvs that they are vveak believers. Because strong believers vvould have no problem vvith reading Koran and Sunnah i a honest vvay vvithout interpretating them in the most hatefull vvay and vvithout letting people vvho hate islam interpretate them. Honest people vvho are convinced of their believe vvould have no need to lie and to demonize islamic scriptures. But it seems that that is not the case. A lot of christians are afraid because of the povverfull and great alternative called Islam, vvhich became the fastest grovving religion in the vvorld.
Dr. Shabir... Masha Allah 🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲🤲
Shabir teaches and the other clown is only hatemonging.
Winston Grettum
True, if you simply ignore all the references he gave....
Do Jesus have the 99 names given to ALLAH SWT. If not, then Jesus is not God
Well done yet again Dr Shabir Ally : ) . And also may I say how desperate that guy at 58:54 is."waaa Islam is so scaryy :C"..pathetic.
This video made me convert to Islam Alhamdulila....David Wood is a coward..
ALLAHU AKBAR MEANS GOD IS THE GREATEST
For real
ALLAHU AKBAR MEANS GOD IS THE GREATEST
Are you being serious
This channel is biased. Why does David get to start and finish this debate but shabir only gets to start the next debate and not finish?
Ma Sha Allah! Brother Shabir destroyed that ignorant trinitarian!
Islam ☪️ is the truth and the light
Christians claim to be filled with Holy Spirit. But lot of Christians become atheist by hearing the arguments of atheists such as Christopher Hitchens, Sam Harris and also people like Bart Ehrman . Their arguments drive the Holy Spirit out of them. So guess what these people are more powerful then Holy Spirit. This whole argument is illogical that Allah failed miserably (nauzibillah) to Paul. That's the problem with David he can't see himself being refuted. Shabbir refutes him but he keeps saying the same thing. This is more like a street level debate
Afsar Ali Ehrman is not an atheist he’s agnostic
The Pauline Heresy is the worlds biggest heresy ever in the history of mankind. We invite David Wood and all you Christians out there to the religion of Islam.
Again...the psycho guy david wood did not make it i this debate
Yes bro paul gives us the truth pray to Jesus and you will hear him
_ While Paul is mentioned in the Commentaries of Sunnis as True, he is mentioned in the Books of Shiites as an Accursed person.
- He was cursed by the Imams of Shiites.
Wood is confused and didn't know what was he saying. He just ignore the facts stated by shabir and repeat s his stupid accustomed and rigid and stubborn ideas
You can watch the video " David Wood is a coward" on UA-cam with all your friends..
No one can ever break the word of God. Lord Jesus help the Muslims to open their mind and eyes. They are lost.
David Wood is the kind of person one should be very careful with.. regardless of your faith.. he believes in something that is preached by Paul and also AFFIRMED by Paul which is just stupid and you should be careful cuz he twists words and keeps that smug expression to deceive people
what the hell does this david are talking about this debate, he going out and get back in and flying around the sky, does he know how to debate with the topic, I'm not a scholar but he really downgrades himself as a debater, so funny...............
This is wrong. Its not about the difference its about whats the same. Too much energy trying to blame, prove, and win. We are all children of God. I am a Muslim.
why did Jesus not write the scripture by himself ? apostels of christen are incredible.
Why didn't Muhammad?
@@nromanov Muhammad is ummi, He cant read and write. Jesus is god according to Christians...how can god not read and write?
@@herisusanto8182 Muhammad came to bring the "most glorieus book" but couldn't write or read.
1. Who said Jesus couldn't write or read. He clearly knew the Scriptures and recited them and also we have also evidence that He did know to write.
2. Why is it of importance that Jesus wrote a book at all?
and if you look after those 42;30 al off a sudden paul lives when jesus lived and then he lived also 600 years later...
Scholars like David Wood are poor performers in these types of debates. It requires alot of knowledge and analysis.
POST.1- well is a liar by default a deceiver ? if i had to answer i would say yes, there is as much difference between a liar and a deceiver as there IS between water and being WET.IF WE LOOK AT THE BIBLE IT SAYS JOB.25;4 - How can anything born of WOMEN BE PURE paul and jesus both came from the woomb of a WOMEN ALSO READ - 1 KINGS .8;46 ALL SIN.SO can paul be a deceiver hell yes. now lets look at one example of a multitude of examples where paul lied . i believe this example captures the general over all flavor of pauls willing urge to lie on and of his own accord or to lie as a result of advice.
A scholar in Quran “interpretation” that’s tuff 😂
David Wood was in prison for 10 years..... damn
+Sendo K Psychiatric hospital*
When looking at religious cult leaders how can you Muslims say Muhammad isn’t the perfect example of one and Paul is…
shabir ally to good for u wood
To all Christians, Who did Jesus really give the sacrifice ransom to? to God the father or Satan.
No need to spread hate whether Christian or Muslim. They're clearly debating respectfully so why are the comments not the same.
Surah 109, Verse 6:
"To you your religion and to me mine."
Mashaallah shabir ali you are speaking the whole truth
And i thought davod was the only clown on the show yet this guy pops up on my screen at 58:00 💀💀💀bruuuhh
Jesus(pbuh) spoke the Aramaic Language, Jesus(pbuh) in the Bible mentions God many times..
Bible
"No one is good except GOD!
"Jesus answered "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our GOD IS ONE!"
Now Christian's are going to hate this as they almost all do, but facts or facts either you accept it or remain in denial.
READY...
Jesus spoke Aramaic, how do you say God in Aramaic .... "ALLAH!
Look at David's smug face as he's being introduced 😂👌
Jesus is son of God.
Son of God hang by his own followers
Jesus is born by Mary there is none of single chapter on Mary.
There is none of single chapter on his father.
Jesus never accept he is god
Everything Paul assuming
And Christian is in trouble
One God
Second Jesus son of God who never accept .
Third spirit if Paul got spirit why he lie and if Jesus disciples is got spirit why they help to caught Jesus .
I think chrishnallity is manipulate and lie
God, son of God, spirit and Paul .😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Amazing facts
POST.2- Paul persuades some of the jews of ICONIUM to give up the law of moses = ACTS.14;1 . When he comes to jerusalem he was told that the jews know what he did and they also WILL FIND out that he is here in jerusalem = ACTS.21;21-22 , Paul was in potentially big TROUBLE James and the elders advise paul HOW TO GET OUT OF TROUBLE now read ACTS.21;23-24 WHERE HE IS ADVISED TO LIE THROUGH HIS TEETH TO THE POINT he follows there advice to the letter TO THE POINT THAT HE EVEN GOES AGAINST HIS PRINCIBLES OF BEING AGAINST SACRAFICE = ACTS.21;26.
I thought David did a great job in this debate, he made many great points using a justifiable context of the verses he cited. Shabbir did a great job too.
Does Nadir Ahmet debate anymore ?
he is now a Christian
omo Olag Any proof ?
The ad @ 58:00 basically sums up how ridiculous ABN is as a channel, old guys who probably support Donald Trump asking for donations to keep their hate scheme running,
How do we know that when someone says that he has received God's revelation from the angel that he is a true angel? or from true God?
U still wanna know?
@@mohammeddeen-x2o yes.
Angel (Angelos) = Messenger
@@ThePOKeTalker so mohammed is an Angel?
@@exactormortis7433 in a way, but most religious people overlook the original languages. They assume that 'angels" are winged beings sent from on high.
What is "true" is relative and applies to one's interpretation and experience; truth of anything needs to be tested through philosophical "scientific methods". It evolves with its philosopher...
It's important for any religious debater to have an intimate knowledge of the book he's trying to discredit he knows shit , I'm going to watch Bart ehrman.
It is very clear that Paul taught a different view of Jesus's teaching than that of the original apostles of Jesus.
He modified the Jewish concept of what Jesus taught and that is what caused the gentiles to gravitate towads his teaching.
Examining the Newest Historical Research on Islam and the Earliest Quranic Manuscripts - Jay Smith
David Wood destroyed Shabir Ally.... Ally no longer even cares about the hadiths because he knows that it's easier to reject there validity in order to grip on to his faith....
Shabir Ally 👏🏻😍
Talmudic laws (pharisudical laws) are NOT Gods torah/laws. David doesnt seem to know this
Paul changed the message. Will you start worshipping Paul now. At some point I thought that was David was saying!!
Bismillah!
Paul was a man just like any one in our present religious preachers who have their own desires & ambitions that only them & Allah know. Not all that any preacher will say to people are words not contrary to (God)Allah's Words in the Quran or in the Gospel of Jesus. There is none in the Gospel of Jesus that he is the son of God or one of the Trinity of the Bible of the Apostles who were men whom we know not their background. Bible is of the Apostles but not of Jesus who received the Gospel of Allah.
Astagfirullah! Subhanallah! Allahu'akbar! Yah Allah, I submit to Your Mighty Will!
David is nothing without his laptop lol
I am not a christian nor am I a muslim but I watched this video with eyes wide open. The sense I got from Wood is the same I have gotten from most christians in my life. He does a lot of off topic stabs at his opponents god and instead of proving him wrong just simply takes jabs at his opponents religion and god in a sad attempt to make his opponent feel incompetent for believing what he believes. Obviously the christians watching would agree and believe he is doing great but I have to disagree. Shabir was more on topic and professional and did not buckle under the weight of his opponents remarks. He stayed focus. I myself do not see Islam as truth nor christianity. I read and believe the torah and some of the rest of the “old testament”. I have no dog in this fight personally. I think anyone who truly studies the bible, will see that the new testament is not anything to bet your life on. I came from a christian back ground and from where I am from, muslims are anti christian and we should automatically assume anything that comes from their mouth is hate toward christians. Also that the new state of Israel is biblical and it is our duty to support them because they are God’s people. All I have to say about that is I am glad I got away from the influence of christianity, or paulianity. I feel closer to God now than ever and now I can clearly see the fallacy in the religion. So any one who knows a christian and would like to convert away from christianity, just remember what they have been taught all their life. Remember the brain washing they have received. Peace to all.
Brother why you don't try to take look on Quran and see how it can your heart open ...just try it whish to you the best
David Wood was pathetic liar and still pathetic liar.
At the conclusion he said "Allah promised people to protect Gospel and Allah revealed Gospel as revelation to mankind"? Where did he get this? He is obvious liar
Wow some of the things David Wood said in his intro are soooo cringe
I challenge David wood for a public/online debate.
33:29
David Wood the cross-dresser believes the lies he himself narrated, is this not a Paulinist ?
Why all the argument when Romans 3: 7 is enough to show where Saul/Paul's stand.
Can truth increases through LIES and untruth ?
Could this Romans 3: 7 be words of someone who received his 'commission' directly from Jesus ?
Well you got to see this. In the debates against Islam David has no problem going second because he can throw lot of things against islam some with context some without. It is not easy to refute all the arguments in 7 or 5 mins. But in the debates against Christianity he goes first and finishes last so that he can make a strong concluding statement that would make viewer thinks as if he has won it. Also in the 2 debates the other day we saw in the first debate David was given an opportunity to ask 3 questions/make statements against islam and it was expected from Shabbir to respond without giving him an opportunity and in the second one they did not give this opportunity to Shabbir. All he wants is to win the debate or makes viewer think as if he has won. Shabbir refuted his arguments but he keeps bringing the same arguments until other person gets frustrated. He should learn something from Dr. James White who debates to remove misconception regarding his religion, concepts and scripture. Whereas for this guy losing debate means losing million dollars
You don't believe in the Christian testimony (NT) as that is where you centered your attack. (unbelief) and we don't believe in your bible and that Mohammad was a true prophet. So where does that get us? Interesting enough it was Paul who made a careful distinction between "God" and "Lord" not captured in orthodox trinity statements.
Paul=>Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live
Jesus is God's Christ. It was God who set Jesus above even the angels of God. hence it was God who made Jesus both "Lord" and "Christ" not any man.
Jesus=>Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been GIVEN to me. 19THEREFORE go and make disciples of ALL NATIONS, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
after 41 minutes and 45 seconds, I stopped watching. *Let us look at the debate so far*
Dr Wood gave his 10 points and Dr Ally gave us his points.
There was a few minutes of squabbling between them over Luke and Mark lying about Paul to make him look better. Dr Ally admitted that just because Mark and Luke knew Paul that did not mean they were lying for him.
Then the "Great Book Debate" started, they were quoting here and they were quoting there, somebody wrote this and somebody wrote that, was it not handy that they had the books with them !!
*What a farce*
1- You might be thinking like you discovered a fact. Perhaps many people will praise you for your discovery. But you will be leading many people to hell, pushing many people into doubts on word of God. Will that satisfy you?
2- It seems like you are questioning God on why He used Paul.
3- There were misunderstanding about Christ coming onto earth, during Jesus birth and His ministry.
4- Paul's ministry was focused for gentiles. Reaching to Gentiles is Jesus' one of the mission. There is no doubt, Paul's ministry aligned with Gentiles.
5- You can find Peter supporting Paul's work. "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. (2 Peter 3:15-16 ESV)'
6- All the false teaching including Islam wants to prove Paul was a false teacher. But the Scripture (Bible) is written with the instruction of Holy Spirit. (You may or may not believe it. But God made it).
As always, David is hopeless and desperate.
Suspicious ass comment section pretty much all Pro-Islam and Downplaying David Wood and Christianity smh
Hentai Flex
Ahhhhhh. Are you suggesting a conspiracy?
I think the next debate should be with a Christian wall, as in go to a church, find a wall and debate with it. At least the silence from the wall would be more logical than whatever these people are saying.
Yup, Because a wall only listen to you and not destroy your fallacious arguments
John Smith You prove my point at your infinite stupidity.
Actually no, you're the one who said he should debate a wall. In fact your statement only proved my first statement
Paul more powerful then God? Who is this guy been banging?
david wood keliatan banget dangkal ilmu nya tentang bible nya sendiri..memalukan umat kristen si david wood
I wish David Wood was just a bit less arrogant :)
cross dresser David woods...are you the next kylie Jenner👠👗💅💄 since you put out your rehearsal dresses on UA-cam.
don't in doubt check it out on UA-cam. ..David wood cross dressed
Have. Blesedt day
Bismillah!
Paul was a man just like any one in our present religious preachers who have their own desires & ambitions that only them & Allah know. Not all that any preacher will say to people are words not contrary to (God)Allah's Words in the Quran or in the Gospel of Jesus. There is none in the Gospel of Jesus that he is the son of God or one of the Trinity of the Bible of the Apostles who were men whom we know not their background. Bible is of the Apostles but not of Jesus who received the Gospel of Allah.
Gospel of Jesus is of Allah swt but the Bible of varied versions & interpretations of men whom we know not their identity, background, desires, purposes & ambitions in this Life, is not of Jesus as Christians claim.
Astagfirullah! Subhanallah! Allahu'akbar! Yah Allah, I submit to Your Mighty Will!
So these people believe in God
David Wood the laptop merchant
I think David wood read anything that he found on Google
appealing to the commentary of so called christian scholars🤣🤣
Allah is Jesus, and Jesus is Allah!
David lost in da woods
David wood is sick
Alasan DW yang tak masuk akal.
Wood is a jest
When a 9th century document argues with a 1st century document recording 1st century events 😂😂😂 Islam is BS
Although the Qur'an came 600 years later but it corrects all the mistakes in the Bible, for example the Bible when God created the world in six days he rested on the 7th days 😂 the Qur'an tells God created the Universe in six days and he never got tired, also the Qur'an tells us that prophet Solomon didn't become idol worshiper and worshipped idols towards the end of his life but it was the demons who went astray 😊
@@zahraabdullah4154 lol the God of the bible “rested” in completion of His perfect creation, not in the sense that he got tired. Also, the bible doesnt hide the fact the solomon did have multiple wives and had become idol worshipper due to influence of his wives. But it also shows the consequences of his actions because the God of Bible(YHWH) is a righteous and just God. I find it funny that you quote solomon when in fact muhammad was a pedophile, allowed rape of women captives, allowed adult suckling of breast, beheaded captives , slavery. Is that your moral example? Hahahahaha because my moral example is Jesus Christ, not solomon 😅😅😅😅😅 the desperation of a muslim defending his pedophile muhamad 🤣
@@Soldier-of-Messiah-Yeshuawithout Muhammed ﷺ marrying Aisha, what other problem you have with Islam? Clearly shows it’s the truth and you just want an excuse to not accept it
@@Bunyourdesires he allowed adult breastfeeding. Embarassing 🤣
@@Bunyourdesires also allowed captive women to be raped
please remove this video...this is destroying islam and humiliating our revered Dr.Shabbir Ali.
David destroys Shabbir...again.