Arthas: I lied to my men and betrayed the mercenaries who fought for me. What's happening to me, Muradin? Is vengeance all that's important to me? Muradin: I'll spare you, Arthas. I wasn't there to see what Mal'Ganis did to your homeland. Arthas: This looks bad. We're completely surrounded. Muradin: There's still one chance. I'll help you claim Frostmourne! If it's as powerful as I said, it might tilt the scales in our favor! Arthas: I have a bad feeling about this, old man. But you promised you'd see this through. (some time later) Muradin: Behold, Arthas, our salvation, Frostmourne. Arthas: Hold, old man. There's an inscription on the dais. It's a warning. It says, "Whomsoever takes up this blade shall wield power eternal. Just as the blade rends flesh, so must power scar the spirit." Oh, you should've known. The blade is cursed! Let's get the hell out of here! Muradin: You would gladly bear any curse to save your homeland. Arthas: Leave it be, Muradin. Forget this business and lead my men home. Muradin: Damn the men! Nothing shall prevent you from having your revenge, old friend. Not even me. Now, you call out to the spirits of this place. You will give anything or pay any price, if only they will help you save your people.
Arthas: "Turn back, immortals. Death and darkness are all that await me in this forsaken vault." Guardian: "You doubt there's anything more terrifying than what you've faced already." Arthas: "Believe what you will, spirit. I shall not pass."
It's such a shame too because that's the only thing that'd holding that cutscene back from genuinely amazing. Have Mal burst into bats while making a custom death scream and boom; perfection. So close to perfection here but tripped and fell at the final stretch.
That's so unfortunate because god damn, Arthas actually stabbing Mal'Ganis looks great (even better than in the original where he just swipes at Mal'Ganis). But yeah, had they animated Mal'Ganis to fall over would've completely sold it.
Arthas looks brutal with Frostmourne. It was mystery for me how he got his death knight armor if Lich King back then was encased in ice, and Frostmourne altering the look of his armor seems legit.
2:03 things were pretty hectic so Arthas ditched all formalities and refered to his subordinate by his first name, which luckily happens to be 'Captain'.
As a curiosity, in the Spanish dub of the game (the original one back then,that is) Arthas has one additional line of dialogue after "Succeding you, Father...". As he pulls Frostmourne from Terenas´ corpse, he utters: "Let your eyes close, now that mine are finally open". This is because the script of the game that was sent to Spain was still on production, and the definitive changes hadn´t been done yet. By the time Blizzard was done with the final version, we weren´t told and the line was dubbed and kept.
20:20 The spider coming out of darkness made me realize things. You are fighting the undead. Your boots deep in partially decomposed, poisonous muck, there are building shrinking with lost souls and you stand against walking corpses, reanimated pieces of bodies and insects.
Say what you will about Reforged, Arthas stabbing Mal'Ganis the way he did in 25:23 is way better than the original. That really is a nice little touch the original cutscene sorely lacked.
So much of the strategy of these maps, it seems like almost every one, is "how fast can you do it" and "can you survive the beginning where the enemy has a huge advantage" which honestly kind of sucks because then you're just rushing through the campaign because it punishes you for stalling and the enemy just gets so strong and eventually always wins the war of attrition. As a mainly campaign player, I always liked the long play maps, but this video helped me beat this a lot, it was utterly no challenge after watching your strategy!
You know, I've been thinking, where did Arthas get his new cloak and new armor? Actually, where do undead units that have armors and clothes get them?! Are there undead tailors sewing wolf fur into cloaks? Undead blacksmiths hammering iron in the cold arctic? Where does the undead summoned their building from?
The blacksmiths in his base probably made it for him. Parts of the undead, like the nerubians, have a legit civilization, so they could be making stuff, at the least fabrics. You got me on the buildings, though :) I just know they haunt a gold mine so they can get gold from it.
If i recall, Arthas' look is actually his old gear but warped and twisted somehow (bullshit evil magic, probably), and the undead structures "revive" their units (or sew them together regarding Aboms), rather than train them like other races unit production structures. It's also possible that Arthas just picked up a bunch of pieces of armor from undead armored units and revenants on the basis of "Hey, this looks edgy enough to go with Frostmourne! Fashion time." while Ner'Zul just shrugged and went with it because being a disembodied spirit didn't take away his fashion standards. Necromancer: "Say, um, new champion of the Lich King? Shouldn't you be hurrying home to destroy Lorderon instead of spending weeks scrounging through random dead people's gear?" Arthas: "Shush, minion. I need a look that matches Frostmourne." Necromancer: "But wouldn't that just make it harder to blend in when you return home?" Arthas: "Firstly, the Lich King is the one recommending my new loo-ooh~ these pauldrons are perfect! Ahem, secondly, you'd be surprised at how dumb my people can be." *later* Sea captain: "Why hello, Prince Arthas with your inconspicuously evil and edgy death themed armor. No red flags about that look whatsoever. Just stroll on to your father while having that large, very evil looking sword unsheathed while the royal guards stand around and do nothing." Necromancer: "...holy shit, how did we not run over these people earlier?"
@@joshuakim5240 That's what i was wondering myself everytime..how tf did the guards at the entrance in the capital just let him pass..I mean...I think they would know better when something is suspicios, but again, arthas was a royal so perhaps they just let it go at the fear of challenging a noble.
Is it ever explained who the Guardian and such are? They are undead by they don’t seem to serve the Lich King, are they perhaps some of the first examples of the Forsaken? Heroes who were raised but were to strong for the Lich King to take control of?
I think i read somewhere that he presumaby had seen the fact this would lead to great devastation to the world through the invasion of the burning legion.
I remember having so much fun just popping Divine Shield and slowly but surely taking down Mal'ganis's base with just Arthas in the original game. 8:30 Looking a little flushed there Arthas. Gotta say I like that they changed his model and portrait like that here. 25:27 Well that was different. And I gotta say I like it. The floating away thing was a bit uh. .. yeah. But it's a shame about Mal'ganis. It was revealed that he was behind the Scarlet Onslaught in Wrath and I would've figured he was gonna have a bigger role to play when it came to Icecrown Citadel but sadly Blizzard just dropped the ball on him. Did he come back in Legion, I don't even remember? If not they really dropped another ball there. 26:14 Or it's like one of those rpgs where when you class change (from paladin to death knight here) you drop to level one. Like Dragon Quest 3 for example. But that ending cinematic. For as much as I like it I can't help but think. Arthas, the prince and paladin, comes home wearing that skull armor and wicked looking sword and nobody was the least bit concerned about it? Much less his own dad?
I think they obviously were, but they didn't say anything about that, but for me the real thing which should have made them suspicious would be:Arthas, you went to northrend with an entire legion, won and returned with only 2 men? Isnt that a bit shady?
It is really unfortunate how limited the updates to the maps and in-game cut-scenes themselves are. Not even thinking of truly remaking everything into style that was shown in that Culling preview. I always felt that there were a few more problematic maps and story cut-scenes that could get polished up a bit. I was really sad to even see many of the bugs from classic game still persist in the missions. Some maps felt like they were 100% untouched. My UI still bugged out in the TFT night elf missions where lightning strikes would remove all health bars and tooltips until the next strike:/ It was really annoying. It also a bit of a shame that the usage of TFT rules for units and upkeep has really made the base campaign relatively easy. I am not that great at all, but I managed to finish everything on Hard without ever feeling pressured. Some of the more scary mission (for me, Undead last mission, Orc last mission and a few others) from vanilla version were incredibly easy. I feel that the balance tweaking they made really underestimated how much power that extra upkeep room gives players in addition to being able to stack consumables and tft armor vs damage rules. Luckily, TFT campaign so far (have not finished it yet) feels about right. I guess patches and updates will indeed fix many of the more technical issues, but I doubt they will ever go back to the campaigns and do any more major work on them to boost the quality. Feels a bit like wasted opportunity in that sense.
Arthas killing Malganis is the only reforged scene out of the 4+ hours of reforged scenes that we were promised. Arthas killing Uther was a nice touch, but it was still mediocre, cuz Arthas killing Uther in combat would have been better, instead of Uther bowing down to Arthas as he kills him. Yeah.
I dunno when or how you played, but with the original launch CD/DVD 1) the prologue missions were there, but the last three were "custom scenarios" without voice-acting, and 2) once you installed TFT it tended to override ROC rules for most things including unit cost. I remember replaying ROC and being surprised that footmen cost 120g instead of the original 150g - makes a huge difference in how the original campaign was balanced.
These enemies are fucking OP. They only take 1 gold from gold mine but receive much more than that. If you try to stall, you will run out of resources even with all gold mines captured.
Is this series still going? It's been a week since the last video. That's my luck, the best Reforged commentary I could find and the dude drops it after the human campaign.
With all the graphical improvements, it was really funny how Malganis died lol. He just spun and flew away as you said! Even the original death animation was better with the bats and the soul rising up.
Yup we hoped so too, about refoged. And for the map something is really bronken: all the unit should had suicide on your mortal team, Maganis, in the original he didnt have the infernal, they just insert it in the culling and if someone can remeber (or not you know what to do) the first thing he usualy do was put everyone to sleep.
Arthas wandered in the cold for so long that he lost not only his sanity but his items and his levels, too. The ills of walking. Edit: one thing I never understood is the colors. Alliance is blue and Horde is red as in WCII, but why is the Scourge purple when you command it instead of green (which was the major color with purple as supporting)? Is it because green was Mal'Ganis and once he's dead his forces are done?
I have the old version and man this looks impossible if you don't attack purple...you can't finish green off because they both fight you one after another and you eventually lose. I got 3 gold mines and still couldn't win vs green directly...
I gotta say, for all the hate this game is getting (not toatally undeserved) that Arthas taking up Frostmourne cinematic looked really good. It makes me think what they could have done if they had more time.
At they risk of sounding like I'm actually _defending_ Blizzard, here… that _Reforged_ Frostmourne cutscenes was actually really well done! Also, that Fallen Paladin model for Arthas looks _amazing…!_ I wonder if his _Classic_ model was updated to match? I really am impressed with this, though. It's pretty beautiful. (Too bad the style still clashes with the rest of the game, though…)
Muradin says The Frostmourne has something writen on its back which says it was Made in China!!!!Arthas damn it i knew it!! Thats why exactly it looks so cool also!But im gonna use it anyway!!!XDXDXD
26:05 DUDE yeah that always kinda irked me lol. i know they do it cause it's a new campaign or whatever but i remember the first time i played it thinking "i thought i JUST got a super powerful sword. why are these footmen so STRONG?"
Nice Scary Arthas you have claimed GG m8 Be warned Undead final mission the Gryphon faction bugged out for me they stopped attacking and for 10 min just massing Riders and all of them attacked at the final wave and nuked down kelthuzad in seconds hehe with 1 min left on Hard hopefully be fixed before you reach it and THANK GOD for Checkpoints hehe Dont forget to change your Portrait aswell on every finish
Because Blue is the iconic color for the Alliance; there isn't much more thought put into it than that. Note that all the non-player Lordaeron forces use the Light blue/near-white colors. "Iconic colors" for the player ends up taking precedence over what color would actually be appropriate for the "main" faction of each race. I'm still mildly annoyed that the Warsong Clan switched from Red to Purple, but red is the "iconic" Horde color, so Thrall's forces get that and Grom has to get something else to differentiate him. An argument could be made for Thrall's forces being blue to represent the Frostwolf Clan, but admittedly, Thrall is commanding the Horde as a whole, not just the Frostwolves, so seeing them in blue would be a bit weird.
so you are trying to tell me that blizz actually remake like the more important scenes(like claiming frostmourne/kill malg....ofc not as we saw the culling demo at 2018 but still a bit something)and kinda like igonored all???!! really blizz??! for a game i love.....REFUND AND 0/10!!! still nice video jay and i love watching u play and hear your opinion
Maybe cause he was a master Paladin but a novice nercromancer and death knight? And he had no real skill wielding a big ol sword, just a massive hammer
That's kind of the whole point of Arthas though; he was a strong fighter with weak, easily manipulated emotions that were exploited to become what that the Lich King desired. His short temper and ego muddled with his sense of justice in a very destructive way.
Keep an eye out on the last Undead mission, Jay. There is a new easter egg in the top center of the map past where they placed the old Hermit Wizard from OG. On a small shallow island there is an NPC that could be a nod to you, named Jay. He doesn't drop anything and I don't think he refers to any Warcraft lore. He could be a reference to a Blizzard employee, but I thought I would point it out so you can look for it when you get there. Love the videos!
What Blizzard failed to realize was that WC3 was just too big of a game and task to reforge in one go. It would've taken at least one or two more years to reach all the goals they set for themselves. In fact, I would've liked it if they'd release it gradually (you'd still have to pay the full price, but they'd keep up development); First the Reign of Chaos campaigns, then Frozen Throne and finally Multiplayer. Hell, I'd be fine if it was one campaign at a time.
Sorry Jay, but what the hell are you talking about? Every detail you mentioned could be seen in the original. The flowers, him looking up - it was always there. Blame your perception, not the original. Furthermore, in which direction should they have changed the cinematics? Blizzard had a really easy job. Polish Wc3 and everybody who wanted this, could buy it. Sounds like a fair deal. But they didnt. The destroyed the original and wasted the update. This is such a toxic behavior. To destroy the opportunity to get the original one. When I was camping with a youthgroup in 2000, a friend of mine said "Everything Blizzard touches turns to gold". He was right back then. 2020 Everything Blizzard touches, gets worse. My heart is bleeding.
I know it was always there and said the issue was the grainy resolution making it imperceptible to me previously. And really? Your heart bleeds? Get over yourself man. There really needs to be an impassable threshold for how upset people can get over video games. It’s a toy and no matter how bad they messed it up, the overreaction really becomes pathetic.
@@JayborinoPlays Well, when you see the downfall of an formerly great artist - yeah, my heart bleeds. For you its a toy. For me it was art. Maybe that is the difference. So, every fan of classic wc3 is overreacting? Its not anybody should get death-threats or something. I´m just sad what became of blizzard. But hey, It is just a toy, isnt it ? "Dont you guys have phones?" . Bye
Arthas: I lied to my men and betrayed the mercenaries who fought for me. What's happening to me, Muradin? Is vengeance all that's important to me?
Muradin: I'll spare you, Arthas. I wasn't there to see what Mal'Ganis did to your homeland.
Arthas: This looks bad. We're completely surrounded.
Muradin: There's still one chance. I'll help you claim Frostmourne! If it's as powerful as I said, it might tilt the scales in our favor!
Arthas: I have a bad feeling about this, old man. But you promised you'd see this through.
(some time later)
Muradin: Behold, Arthas, our salvation, Frostmourne.
Arthas: Hold, old man. There's an inscription on the dais. It's a warning. It says, "Whomsoever takes up this blade shall wield power eternal. Just as the blade rends flesh, so must power scar the spirit." Oh, you should've known. The blade is cursed! Let's get the hell out of here!
Muradin: You would gladly bear any curse to save your homeland.
Arthas: Leave it be, Muradin. Forget this business and lead my men home.
Muradin: Damn the men! Nothing shall prevent you from having your revenge, old friend. Not even me. Now, you call out to the spirits of this place. You will give anything or pay any price, if only they will help you save your people.
Hazzmati but the roles are reversed kinda?
That's the joke.
Hazzmati That‘s how Arthas remember this scene.
In this version, they'll reveal that Muradin was under some Old God influence or something.
Arthas: "Turn back, immortals. Death and darkness are all that await me in this forsaken vault."
Guardian: "You doubt there's anything more terrifying than what you've faced already."
Arthas: "Believe what you will, spirit. I shall not pass."
25:27 "I have to go, my Nathrezim people need me".
That's an anticlimactic visual effect if I've ever seen one.
It's such a shame too because that's the only thing that'd holding that cutscene back from genuinely amazing. Have Mal burst into bats while making a custom death scream and boom; perfection. So close to perfection here but tripped and fell at the final stretch.
What a joke! 😂
That's so unfortunate because god damn, Arthas actually stabbing Mal'Ganis looks great (even better than in the original where he just swipes at Mal'Ganis). But yeah, had they animated Mal'Ganis to fall over would've completely sold it.
The fact that the Nathrezim are actually from another planet makes that even funnier.
The scene hints at that he did not die here. Because he did not
I love how Arthas change when he picks up Frostmourne but his human model still looks so weird.
Arthas looks brutal with Frostmourne. It was mystery for me how he got his death knight armor if Lich King back then was encased in ice, and Frostmourne altering the look of his armor seems legit.
Nobody:
Mal'gannis getting stabbed:
I must go, my planet needs me
2:03 things were pretty hectic so Arthas ditched all formalities and refered to his subordinate by his first name, which luckily happens to be 'Captain'.
Makes the naming of the captains in the previous missions kinda redundant.
As a curiosity, in the Spanish dub of the game (the original one back then,that is) Arthas has one additional line of dialogue after "Succeding you, Father...".
As he pulls Frostmourne from Terenas´ corpse, he utters: "Let your eyes close, now that mine are finally open".
This is because the script of the game that was sent to Spain was still on production, and the definitive changes hadn´t been done yet. By the time Blizzard was done with the final version, we weren´t told and the line was dubbed and kept.
I was today years old when I found out that line was on the Spanish dub only.
That line is in the Italian dub, too.
Heads up, there are *two* majorly updated missions in the undead campaign.
20:20 The spider coming out of darkness made me realize things. You are fighting the undead. Your boots deep in partially decomposed, poisonous muck, there are building shrinking with lost souls and you stand against walking corpses, reanimated pieces of bodies and insects.
Say what you will about Reforged, Arthas stabbing Mal'Ganis the way he did in 25:23 is way better than the original. That really is a nice little touch the original cutscene sorely lacked.
And then it was ruined by him floating away to the moon.
NikolaTeodosic555 lollll so true
This is what reforged should have been instead, we just got a reskin
My mornings aren’t complete without your freshly uploaded videos. Keep it up, Jay! Thanks for this!
So much of the strategy of these maps, it seems like almost every one, is "how fast can you do it" and "can you survive the beginning where the enemy has a huge advantage" which honestly kind of sucks because then you're just rushing through the campaign because it punishes you for stalling and the enemy just gets so strong and eventually always wins the war of attrition. As a mainly campaign player, I always liked the long play maps, but this video helped me beat this a lot, it was utterly no challenge after watching your strategy!
At least Muradin survives the blast from Arthas’ claiming Frostmourne.
Yeah but whatever he was hit with conked him in the head *really* hard. Enough to give him amnesia.
@MOBA GAMING
He got amnesia
Was the theme for arthas claiming frostmourne always so badass
arthas's guards must be really op to take on 8 royal guards
Or the royal guards are a bunch of chumps.
Those are Falric and Marwyn I think
You know, I've been thinking, where did Arthas get his new cloak and new armor? Actually, where do undead units that have armors and clothes get them?! Are there undead tailors sewing wolf fur into cloaks? Undead blacksmiths hammering iron in the cold arctic? Where does the undead summoned their building from?
The blacksmiths in his base probably made it for him. Parts of the undead, like the nerubians, have a legit civilization, so they could be making stuff, at the least fabrics. You got me on the buildings, though :) I just know they haunt a gold mine so they can get gold from it.
@@Mantaur104 ...Oh, right. I forgot about the Nerubians. They could definitely weave.
If i recall, Arthas' look is actually his old gear but warped and twisted somehow (bullshit evil magic, probably), and the undead structures "revive" their units (or sew them together regarding Aboms), rather than train them like other races unit production structures. It's also possible that Arthas just picked up a bunch of pieces of armor from undead armored units and revenants on the basis of "Hey, this looks edgy enough to go with Frostmourne! Fashion time." while Ner'Zul just shrugged and went with it because being a disembodied spirit didn't take away his fashion standards.
Necromancer: "Say, um, new champion of the Lich King? Shouldn't you be hurrying home to destroy Lorderon instead of spending weeks scrounging through random dead people's gear?"
Arthas: "Shush, minion. I need a look that matches Frostmourne."
Necromancer: "But wouldn't that just make it harder to blend in when you return home?"
Arthas: "Firstly, the Lich King is the one recommending my new loo-ooh~ these pauldrons are perfect! Ahem, secondly, you'd be surprised at how dumb my people can be."
*later*
Sea captain: "Why hello, Prince Arthas with your inconspicuously evil and edgy death themed armor. No red flags about that look whatsoever. Just stroll on to your father while having that large, very evil looking sword unsheathed while the royal guards stand around and do nothing."
Necromancer: "...holy shit, how did we not run over these people earlier?"
@@joshuakim5240 That's what i was wondering myself everytime..how tf did the guards at the entrance in the capital just let him pass..I mean...I think they would know better when something is suspicios, but again, arthas was a royal so perhaps they just let it go at the fear of challenging a noble.
Getting stabbed by Frostmourne, and abducted by aliens 👏🏻
Is it ever explained who the Guardian and such are? They are undead by they don’t seem to serve the Lich King, are they perhaps some of the first examples of the Forsaken? Heroes who were raised but were to strong for the Lich King to take control of?
Gotta laugh at how frostmourne balloons in size when Arthas picks it up, compared to when it was still in ice.
RIP Mal'Ganis' nuts
Mal Ganis : My groin!
...And then he floats to heaven.
Hans Moleman presents: Man getting hit by football.
BlackBible Compound where Imperius just beat the shit outta him.
Hmmm.. I'm still wondering why the Guardian was protecting Arthas from Frostmourne.......
I suppose he was protecting the world from the Lich king
I think i read somewhere that he presumaby had seen the fact this would lead to great devastation to the world through the invasion of the burning legion.
Highlight of the day! So cool Jay!! :)
"I don't know if it's intentionally easier or there triggers that just are not working"
Both probably. LOL
I remember having so much fun just popping Divine Shield and slowly but surely taking down Mal'ganis's base with just Arthas in the original game.
8:30 Looking a little flushed there Arthas. Gotta say I like that they changed his model and portrait like that here.
25:27 Well that was different. And I gotta say I like it. The floating away thing was a bit uh. .. yeah.
But it's a shame about Mal'ganis. It was revealed that he was behind the Scarlet Onslaught in Wrath and I would've figured he was gonna have a bigger role to play when it came to Icecrown Citadel but sadly Blizzard just dropped the ball on him.
Did he come back in Legion, I don't even remember? If not they really dropped another ball there.
26:14 Or it's like one of those rpgs where when you class change (from paladin to death knight here) you drop to level one. Like Dragon Quest 3 for example.
But that ending cinematic. For as much as I like it I can't help but think. Arthas, the prince and paladin, comes home wearing that skull armor and wicked looking sword and nobody was the least bit concerned about it? Much less his own dad?
I think they obviously were, but they didn't say anything about that, but for me the real thing which should have made them suspicious would be:Arthas, you went to northrend with an entire legion, won and returned with only 2 men? Isnt that a bit shady?
It is really unfortunate how limited the updates to the maps and in-game cut-scenes themselves are. Not even thinking of truly remaking everything into style that was shown in that Culling preview. I always felt that there were a few more problematic maps and story cut-scenes that could get polished up a bit. I was really sad to even see many of the bugs from classic game still persist in the missions. Some maps felt like they were 100% untouched. My UI still bugged out in the TFT night elf missions where lightning strikes would remove all health bars and tooltips until the next strike:/ It was really annoying.
It also a bit of a shame that the usage of TFT rules for units and upkeep has really made the base campaign relatively easy. I am not that great at all, but I managed to finish everything on Hard without ever feeling pressured. Some of the more scary mission (for me, Undead last mission, Orc last mission and a few others) from vanilla version were incredibly easy. I feel that the balance tweaking they made really underestimated how much power that extra upkeep room gives players in addition to being able to stack consumables and tft armor vs damage rules. Luckily, TFT campaign so far (have not finished it yet) feels about right.
I guess patches and updates will indeed fix many of the more technical issues, but I doubt they will ever go back to the campaigns and do any more major work on them to boost the quality. Feels a bit like wasted opportunity in that sense.
Revenants look pretty damn cool, almost like a Diablo 1 Hell Knight look to em. Well, minus the legs.
Idk man I think that the orc campaign was more impactful but I do agree with the additional detail in cut scenes being good.
Ok are we not gonna talk about how cool that cute scene really is tho?
Jayborino: Ok, whos our captain
Jayborino: oh its just captain
I CANT STOP HAHAHHA
Arthas killing Malganis is the only reforged scene out of the 4+ hours of reforged scenes that we were promised. Arthas killing Uther was a nice touch, but it was still mediocre, cuz Arthas killing Uther in combat would have been better, instead of Uther bowing down to Arthas as he kills him. Yeah.
You know, I just realized, the sword is Nerzul right? Nerzul has one hell of a voice for an orc.
Racist...
I dunno when or how you played, but with the original launch CD/DVD 1) the prologue missions were there, but the last three were "custom scenarios" without voice-acting, and 2) once you installed TFT it tended to override ROC rules for most things including unit cost. I remember replaying ROC and being surprised that footmen cost 120g instead of the original 150g - makes a huge difference in how the original campaign was balanced.
(0:35 - 0:36) Skeletons, I mean crickets.
am i the only one who think that that cinematic at the end is best of all cinematics in game
These enemies are fucking OP. They only take 1 gold from gold mine but receive much more than that. If you try to stall, you will run out of resources even with all gold mines captured.
Aragorn says thank you Gimli for being in here with me together!!!Gimli answers because we are Part of the Fellowship you Fool!!XDXD
Is this series still going? It's been a week since the last video. That's my luck, the best Reforged commentary I could find and the dude drops it after the human campaign.
I'll get back to it soon, it's not abandoned
@@JayborinoPlays Waiting eagerly for the undead campaign
Wtiiwarcraft?
Good video, stay awesome.
6:40 Why Muradin have same height that Arthas?
Cuz videogames
@@Poputrash dwarves in other video games like total war are not even the same height as humans
This is Hard? Well a lot of things change, I recommend you try it again today 🤣
All race item shops arcane sanctum /voodoo lounge,etc is in frozen thrond
I loved when you did the enhanced version but you only did human campaign (I think) looking/waiting for more of that.
With all the graphical improvements, it was really funny how Malganis died lol. He just spun and flew away as you said! Even the original death animation was better with the bats and the soul rising up.
Yup we hoped so too, about refoged.
And for the map something is really bronken: all the unit should had suicide on your mortal team, Maganis, in the original he didnt have the infernal, they just insert it in the culling and if someone can remeber (or not you know what to do) the first thing he usualy do was put everyone to sleep.
Why muradin don't run from arthas take that frostmourne
i play the hard mode. there are way more units than in your videos. And dread lord always use infernal. your mode is probably normal.
came to find out the same. cant help but feel these youtubers are juking us.
2023 here, they prob made it even harder
I could destroy purple with jusr arthas his bubble lasts for ever
The Captain is supposedly Falric :)
Oh man I missed a lot of your vids
Arthas wandered in the cold for so long that he lost not only his sanity but his items and his levels, too. The ills of walking.
Edit: one thing I never understood is the colors. Alliance is blue and Horde is red as in WCII, but why is the Scourge purple when you command it instead of green (which was the major color with purple as supporting)? Is it because green was Mal'Ganis and once he's dead his forces are done?
I have the old version and man this looks impossible if you don't attack purple...you can't finish green off because they both fight you one after another and you eventually lose. I got 3 gold mines and still couldn't win vs green directly...
25:25
All dreadlords go to heaven
26:23 - Arthas' Betrayal: Killing His Father
I gotta say, for all the hate this game is getting (not toatally undeserved) that Arthas taking up Frostmourne cinematic looked really good. It makes me think what they could have done if they had more time.
Mal'ganis died on the way back to his home planet
At they risk of sounding like I'm actually _defending_ Blizzard, here… that _Reforged_ Frostmourne cutscenes was actually really well done! Also, that Fallen Paladin model for Arthas looks _amazing…!_ I wonder if his _Classic_ model was updated to match?
I really am impressed with this, though. It's pretty beautiful.
(Too bad the style still clashes with the rest of the game, though…)
classic model is still just blonde Arthas with frostmourne and still no creepy eyes.
Mal'Ganis floating away is probably the best thing about Reforged, tbh. XD
6:58 why is muradin so large
Muradin says The Frostmourne has something writen on its back which says it was Made in China!!!!Arthas damn it i knew it!! Thats why exactly it looks so cool also!But im gonna use it anyway!!!XDXDXD
5:32 You shall not pass!!!!!
26:05 DUDE yeah that always kinda irked me lol. i know they do it cause it's a new campaign or whatever but i remember the first time i played it thinking "i thought i JUST got a super powerful sword. why are these footmen so STRONG?"
Nice Scary Arthas you have claimed GG m8
Be warned Undead final mission the Gryphon faction bugged out for me they stopped attacking and for 10 min just massing Riders and all of them attacked at the final wave and nuked down kelthuzad in seconds hehe with 1 min left on Hard hopefully be fixed before you reach it and THANK GOD for Checkpoints hehe
Dont forget to change your Portrait aswell on every finish
Hella Spoilers m8. Even if it's a glitch (surprise there)
Technically the colour of Lordaeron is White, but in Warcraft 3 the colours of Arthas' expedition is blue for reasons unknown to me.
Because Blue is the iconic color for the Alliance; there isn't much more thought put into it than that. Note that all the non-player Lordaeron forces use the Light blue/near-white colors.
"Iconic colors" for the player ends up taking precedence over what color would actually be appropriate for the "main" faction of each race. I'm still mildly annoyed that the Warsong Clan switched from Red to Purple, but red is the "iconic" Horde color, so Thrall's forces get that and Grom has to get something else to differentiate him. An argument could be made for Thrall's forces being blue to represent the Frostwolf Clan, but admittedly, Thrall is commanding the Horde as a whole, not just the Frostwolves, so seeing them in blue would be a bit weird.
I the feedback that I didnt want changes to the campaign I wanted to play the old game but with prettier graphics
You got lucky. After I killed purple green sent constant attacks with frost wyrms. Seems like some buggy triggers.
How long did you wait? I kill the enemy bases fast enough for them to really come online in many cases.
so you are trying to tell me that blizz actually remake like the more important scenes(like claiming frostmourne/kill malg....ofc not as we saw the culling demo at 2018 but still a bit something)and kinda like igonored all???!!
really blizz??!
for a game i love.....REFUND AND 0/10!!!
still nice video jay and i love watching u play and hear your opinion
Does anyone know why he suddenly stopped uploading the reforged gameplay through videos?
Break. He want to heal himself from Reforged Kappa
Maybe cause he was a master Paladin but a novice nercromancer and death knight? And he had no real skill wielding a big ol sword, just a massive hammer
Why no one cares about that Guardian who almost saves the world from destruction
How I hated Arthas in this part. Yes, I hated him and I still hate him until now. What a waste of a prince, weak emotions.
Read the book Arthas: Rise of the Lich King. It details it all very well ^^
There is custom campaign in original Warcraft III where Arthas became king of Lordaeron. Jayborino covered it in the past and it looks great.
@@RebelWvlf You mean the Arthas campaign? or something different? ^^
That's kind of the whole point of Arthas though; he was a strong fighter with weak, easily manipulated emotions that were exploited to become what that the Lich King desired. His short temper and ego muddled with his sense of justice in a very destructive way.
the most iconic and badass character in the franchise being hated by some random ape. Yep. cute
Keep an eye out on the last Undead mission, Jay. There is a new easter egg in the top center of the map past where they placed the old Hermit Wizard from OG. On a small shallow island there is an NPC that could be a nod to you, named Jay. He doesn't drop anything and I don't think he refers to any Warcraft lore. He could be a reference to a Blizzard employee, but I thought I would point it out so you can look for it when you get there. Love the videos!
Did he yell "Skeletons!" when you reach him? Or did he surrounded by bunch of trees that force you to bring meat wagons to destroy them?
@@SuryaBudimansyah sadly no
What Blizzard failed to realize was that WC3 was just too big of a game and task to reforge in one go. It would've taken at least one or two more years to reach all the goals they set for themselves. In fact, I would've liked it if they'd release it gradually (you'd still have to pay the full price, but they'd keep up development); First the Reign of Chaos campaigns, then Frozen Throne and finally Multiplayer. Hell, I'd be fine if it was one campaign at a time.
Sorry Jay, but what the hell are you talking about?
Every detail you mentioned could be seen in the original. The flowers, him looking up - it was always there. Blame your perception, not the original.
Furthermore, in which direction should they have changed the cinematics?
Blizzard had a really easy job.
Polish Wc3 and everybody who wanted this, could buy it. Sounds like a fair deal.
But they didnt.
The destroyed the original and wasted the update. This is such a toxic behavior. To destroy the opportunity to get the original one.
When I was camping with a youthgroup in 2000, a friend of mine said "Everything Blizzard touches turns to gold".
He was right back then.
2020
Everything Blizzard touches, gets worse.
My heart is bleeding.
I know it was always there and said the issue was the grainy resolution making it imperceptible to me previously. And really? Your heart bleeds? Get over yourself man. There really needs to be an impassable threshold for how upset people can get over video games. It’s a toy and no matter how bad they messed it up, the overreaction really becomes pathetic.
@@JayborinoPlays Well, when you see the downfall of an formerly great artist - yeah, my heart bleeds. For you its a toy. For me it was art. Maybe that is the difference.
So, every fan of classic wc3 is overreacting? Its not anybody should get death-threats or something. I´m just sad what became of blizzard. But hey, It is just a toy, isnt it ? "Dont you guys have phones?"
. Bye
Arthas is bad
Wow epic game, but is it as good as Dota2 ?
In hard just 3 units spawned with arthas for me