Why do the pros play Garrosh? (An Analytical look at pro play)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Garrosh is a force to be reckoned with. And a 60% win rate in pro play right now sitting with over 70% popularity.
His throws are devastating but in this video they are used in a more unique way. For damage and for safety. He still uses them to setup kills but he often tricks people into thinking he is going to throw only to taunt instead.
Hopefully you enjoyed the video and I hope it helps you understand why Garrosh is played so much in pro play and he is picked more than just to throw enemies, he is also picked to throw allies and have a stun on a low cooldown while also being nigh unkillable lategame.
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Very good video. As a guy who reached Master the last two seasons using Garrosh among others, this is a very solid guide on why he is good. One thing I would like to mention though is that Unrivaled Strength at lvl 1 has uses that Warbreaker does not always provide. One example being that the talent allows Garrosh to more reliably throw Heroes over walls whether they are environmental or not. One example being on Towers of Doom where you can throw the enemy into your top lane defenses while standing close to the wall from a certain angle. Another thing Unrivaled Strength does is giving you a higher effective range to chain stun the enemy by using minions or Heroes once getting the lvl 16 talent. At lvl 20 throwing two enemies at once is extremely effective and provides some effective burst damage both for wave clearing and in team fights.
As for the lvl 13 talents, I usually go Blood Craze, the reason being that it is a lot safer to land in a fight. Defensive Measures is very good, but if the enemy team starts hugging you you will not be able to proc it. You can also bait the enemy into thinking you will go down by kiting until you get your heal off. Any healing on Garrosh is effective healing, so it just makes a pretty decent self-heal more effective.
It's not coins or gems, they're obviously spider butts
im glad to see that your channel is growingbso fast, i started watching u when u had 2.6k subs hand your content has always been amazing and i hope you keep it up👍
I don't know if you meant for this to happen or not but when you make predictions it puts me in your head space letting me see what a legit higher rank player is thinking about at any point of time during a match. This is why I thought it was part of your teaching process.
Garrosh has more armor than you have tabs open
I love watching these. Always something to learn, regardless of how much I think I know the character.
I have only seen a couple of your videos but I would like to say that I really hope your channel picks up quickly. You are excellent at very detailed explinations of each hero/map and exactly the most optimized way to play them. I love your constant pausing, explaining, and use of pro players. As a Platinum player I hope this channel becomes massive, not only for you, but for the entire community of HOTS. I think with your help many players will understand this game much better.
Could not agree more
Really like your daily uploads mate. You are now my must watch channel for hots. I'm specially enjoying these long, thoroughly explained guides
Oh dear.
I liked garrosh before, but now i can‘t wait to play him now :D
And i don‘t understand that predicition hate too. I love this. Because this should exactly beeing the thoughts we should have in the situation, no?
And with u explaning it, it become much more clear to me :)
Yee and again. Awesome vid man. I like this series!
That maiev play was wild to watch
Really like watching these videos! Although I will just face smashing the keyboard and forget everything when I am under pressure.
Wow your content is amazing! It would be great to see a video on Alarak or Nazeebo.
Hey dude, i look for these video because i struggle a lot with Garrosh and is not the first time i see what are you doing, keep the good work, i am improving looking these plays
Great insights.
A lot of the time in QM if we're weak on healing or wave-clear, I'll run Unrivaled Strength at 1 and then In for the Kill at 4.
With this you have pocket wave-clear and healing by tossing the front minion into the back minions, then bloodthirst down all the minions. Some of the fastest wave-clear in the game and it heals you up to boot. Sometimes this can be done near a fight to top off and just keep tanking.
The only problem with the E talent at lvl 1 is that the throw range is bigger, and your Q edge is the same distance as an untalented E.
That menas that, without talented, you can do the E+Q combo easily, as if you had the E talent at lvl 1, you have to calculate a bit more.
Excellent video, my favourite tank, by a long shot!
If you try out at try mode, with talent enemy goes to almost out of range, you hit them with edge of your skillshot. without talent is just in a safe area, so np at all. Maybe, stun an azmo would never be a problem, but a li ming or tracer with a lower body model, it can be a miss chance. And, being pros, if you have something isnt 150% safe, why? why would you let another pro player a minimum window to escape and do a play? Maybe then, when there isnt a target like that, you can go E. More damage with Q? and a dot damage? zuljin, use tazdingo, you are a dead orc! XD
Love the anchor tips, been having a lot of fun with it!
First! Love your content, please continue with the helpful guides~
One thing worth mentioning: Blaze+Garrosh is one of the most common and scariest duos as Blaze can throw oil from a distance slowing someone enough for Garrosh to walk up and get a throw.
In for the kill at level 4 is very important! Not only you can clear a minion wave in a matter of seconds but also it can save you from dying when you have to carry the team. I would say it is one of the most important talents.
not getting stunlocked is more important than waveclear since it's not your job
Nice vid, keep up the good work.
Into the fray is the best level 7 talent in the game. Cleanse, displacement, and 25 armor.
Who doesn't like predictions! As long as you own up to being wrong or at least have an idea /why/ you're predicting it, then you're fine.
Oh well. Love the stuff anyway bb
IDK some dude on one of my other videos haha.
don't try to change just for one dude.
Why should we care that you do predictions in a game YOU DONT KNOW HOW IT WENT?
People shouldn't come here to see commented pro play like a spectacle, they are here to learn, and predictions are a good tool for that imo...
NotParadox dva is good with garrosh to because you can throw your ally dvas bomb to them or throw the enemy dvas bomb away from team
Self destruct
FilledCircle yeah predictions on Reddit, btw if you like living don't try it
20:50 you can also pick In for the Kill for wave clear as it give you reset on kills, damage the minions low enough and W the whole wave.
So the armor stacks with shields? If I am low health as Garrosh and I have a shield, that armor applies to the shield too? Wow I never realized that.
Feels like this game is 10% skill 30% draft 60% teamwork.
And 1 guy who has turned off the map and does not react to pings....
hitoZ that's the guy who's bad at teamwork
Kyle Kaloi you mixed draft and skill
MAybe if you're only talking about coordination skills. It's closer to 50% skill 50% teamwork, drafting is a skill by itself.
listener01 like first picking zeratul:(
the timing for the eqr combo is right even against tracer whenever garrosh isnt slowed
its very tight with the level 1 range talent but without it, its always doable, 100%
I'm currently in Plat and I hoped people wouldnt still be facechecking bushes
I was wondering if you could do a video on Alexstrasza. I've been trying to practice her lately, to very mixed results.
This is a video from an older patch, since the level 7 brute force (body check) talent is still there. Knowing that body check at level 1 has the reduced healing now, what you think about it? Is it good enough now to take it? Lets say vs a malthael for example.
please do a video on Blaze
you missed the first Into the Fray on Jaina @14:15 while fast-forwarding.
Hey that notification on MasterLeague.net says to acknowledge and promote them if you use their data. Other than showing a fuzzy URL on screen it doesn't look like you have acknowledged them. At least put in description.
Definitely will, thanks!
I have a question. I played against Kharazim recetly with garrosh and I had 58% HP but he killed me entirely with his ulti seven sided strike..How is that possible?? It was lvl 15 by estimation.
I'm working on my Garrosh game and this video explains very well why he's so strong right now both in Hero League and HGC. I'm terrible at throwing allies so I'm missing out on a core part of the kit!
if you're interested in learning how to play Garrosh, be sure to read ishb00's guide "Throwing the Right Way" and watch the associated videos. He goes over Garrosh build, combos, and a game walkthrough. heroeshearth.com/b/ishb00/read/throwing-the-right-way-garrosh-guide/
Thanks.need updated ver
NP, can you share the replays in discord? :D
I love garry, hes the best
question, does slow from throw stack with slow from Q if you do E>Q combo?
no, the higher slow overlaps the lower slow
why to the pro stopping not video?
please use P on keyboard instead of clicking play/pause :) as a hotkey guy it's just as painful to see as people pressing bold button in word
I play garrosh cause i've seen his world.
Before I watch this video: "Exploiting mistakes in the enemy team's positioning."
And as usual, this is far more detailed and informative than I expected. Wonderful video!
Even more than that, it's because of Stukov/Malf as the prime supports - no save buttons like Ancestral/Palm/D-Shield/Aegis. (Haven't watched more than 3min atm tho)
oh what the actual fuck how many tabs is that
so many tabs. jesus fuck it hurts
Lucio please
How dare you not make predictions?!
Your move ;)
what was the problem with it in the first place?
I said in the video some people didn't like me making predictions in the videos, to just let it play out or say what happens after watching it. Now Quoth is saying that I shouldn't not make predictions, putting me in an impossible scenario of making someone upset either way. It's just a joke. Overall im just going to do what I like to do which is making predictions.
I heard you say that but I thought it was something more that happened like you were making too many wrong predictions or something. But ok, I saw the prediction as part of the break down in helping to understand whats going on exactly and what's about to happen and why. Whatever you do in the end for replay vids keep the part where you pause to break the action down for us peas and carrots!
how do you get the replays?
If you go under the watch tab in game, you can go back and look at all your old replays.
What shocked me the most is Warbreaker on lvl1, think without the E range of grab/throw increase he isn't even a hero at all, like, a complete nobody what-so-ever lol
VArsovski10 untalented, his throw's max range is the same as the stun range on groundbreaker. There's no reason to take the longer throw.
no. no. no. no. no. scrubbers pls. garrosh tossed a minion on them at 11:39 because of the level 16 stun talent. Not for damage lul.
24:47 is the correct time stamp (approximately)