I am a hunter and have been hunting public lands out of state. My family worries about bear attacks and injury a great deal. I have been looking into these devices and found your video. I appreciate all of the detail and work that you have put into your video. I will be subscribing, liking, and sharing.
I love that you showed these literally side-by-side and highlighted that the Garmin gives you feedback as to whether its message got out. Also that both struggle to get messages out sometimes. That helps my decision tremendously.
I know this is old, but just for people's info Spot X Your sent messages will be displayed in the Messages screen....There are also 3 different icons indicate the status of a message: The first is a chat bubble with a check mark indicating message sent. The second is a chat bubble with a question mark indicating message sent, but the delivery could not be confirmed. The third is a chat bubble with a X indicating message was not sent. This is usually due to poor GPS signal conditions.
This is the first video I've seen from your channel. I have watched so many that left holes in the info needed to make well educated choice. This comp was the best I've seen for this type item. I very much appreciated the "side by side" real life comparisons. Most manufacturer videos are all flash and optimal claims that fall apart in a rainstorm, under heavy interference from veggies, or city buildings. Thanks for a truly revealing comparison. It has helped me make a good decision for my needs.
Nice, balanced review. I have used the Garmin InReach for a few years now while deep sea fishing up to 70 miles out. It's an excellent way to let my family know where we are, what we caught, and when we'll be home. It is expensive, but our safety is worth it. Also, I really like being able to review my trips with the Earthmate app and to share my trip info in real time with my family and friends. Of course, the downside is that they now know all my favorite fishing spots. If you go places where there is no cell coverage, then you need to carry one of these devices. Garmin is my first choice.
Good review! Your first test proves that in the summer time when trees have all there leaves satellite signal can be blocked if your in heavy foliage. I remember back in the 1990's when satellite TV was the big thing, you had to be careful where you put your dish just for this reason.
Good Comparison Thank you. My Spot Gen 3 stopped sending when I was very remote , tried several things to change that but it turns out that Spot Gen 3 is now not functioning any longer and Spot advised me to purchase a new unit....As I go remote regularly I want a simple and effective SOS system...bottom line! With this review I will go Garmin inreacdh mini 2, from now on. Many thanks
I would also consider the zoleo as I believe it uses the iridium network and should have similar coverage as the Garmin and might have better battery than the mini 2. Worth taking a look at.
In the past, I always thought that I would never need something like that, until I had an acccident in a National Park in Italy. My BMW SOS button didn't work because I had no access to the rescue service. So I was laying on the ground with no cell access. I was lucky that a colleague was there and got help. Today I bought a Spot X. NEVER ride alone.
Great comparison. I owned the Spot: ver 1 & 2. The ver 1 model didn't prevent accidental 'Help' messages from going out (different from SOS). They corrected it in the ver 2 model. There were a few times when the SPOT "I'm OK" message didn't go out. Never knew it. Also, the batteries went weak on my on the Ver 2 model and I didn't know it. Eventually, my wife told me on the phone that she was no longer getting messages. I simply changed the batteries & it worked again. I did once have to use the SOS button in NZ. It did work. (Helicopter picked up the M/C rider but I never knew if he survived or not) But, I never knew if it went out or not. I now own & use the DeLorme InReach (before Garmin bought them out). Love it. I know when messages go out. I get audible signals when messages come it. The weather forecast option really comes in handy. Using the phone app in conjunction is really nice. All in all, it is more costly but worth it when you spend as much time in the backcountry as I do.
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Spot has now updated their plans to support flex plans with a yearly $25 fee. Allows you turn the service on and off as you need it.
Great review and comparison! Thanks for taking the time and also doing the research (eg number of satellites each uses etc), calling Garmin for details on the Mini. Very generous of you to share all this! I’m on Spot Gen3 and looking to upgrade. Leaning to Garmin. Here in Canadian Rocky Mountains the Spot is, well, spotty. Some messages never get through and I never know when or why. Fortunately haven’t had to rely on it yet for an SOS, just updates to the Mrs from my solo hikes. Again super helpful - many thanks
Great review. I went with the Spot X. They did some firmware updates, the SOS has been removed from on on screen interface, as well as the social media icon. I will be using this on rail trails, and some hikes, nothing super remote.
OldPackMule love the unit. Wish the battery life was better. The input on the limited buttons is better than you would expect and of course you only need that function if you don’t have access to your phone which is the primary method of texting. The compact size is truly a benefit if all you need is the sos and 2 way text functions. Main concern is battery life so be ready to charge it with something it on a extended hike.
Nice comparison! I bought an Inreach this year and the Spot X was released just a few weeks later and I worried that I made the wrong choice. The Inreach has worked great for us and your comparison just helped solidify that choice. Also worth noting that Garmin does have an extremely limited 'cheap' plan for just $12/mo, and I do love the ability to pause the subscription so I am not paying during months that we do not expect to use the Garmin.
I'm a private pilot and intend to fly across oceans later this year. After researching both these brands I found the the SPOT devices only work within tens of miles of ocean shorelines, while InReach works everywhere on planet earth. For pilots like me... and obviously for anyone who travels by ocean vessels... the *ONLY* viable option is the Garmin InReach Explorer+.
Could you clarify within tens of miles of ocean shorelines? The Spot website shows this device to literally work anywhere in the world with very few exceptions.
Been using a spot gen 1 tracker for years, LOVE IT, was headed the spot x way...but your real world demo showed not only the expanded feature set of the Garmin, but it just works better. Great use of a video media to show that, otherwise in written reports its often difficult to parse that reality from reviewer bias. I'm off to buy the Garmin, and I hope you healed fast after that truck pulled in front of you...I had a similar thing happen ~15yrs ago and still have the scars :\
Spot X DOES give you a sent message confirmation. This review should be updated, because that almost convinced me NOT to get it, however it absolutely will let you know the message was sent. You go into the view all messages or view check ins and on the right side it will show an icon if it was indeed sent or if it failed to send with an icon. This is written in the manual of the Spot x as of this date. Maybe when you posted this originally it wasn't an option, but with the current firmware it does do this.
This is great news.. Competition is always a good thing. I'll verify this and add this to the comments. Do you have the bluetooth model or the original?
Great review. I have the Inreach Explorer by Inreach the older version before Garmin bought them out. I live in the NW and spend alot of time in the outback far away from people and cell towers. Great to communicate as I have and needed assistance with our declaring an SOS emergency.. Best thing is family and friends can communicate if there is a need to. Perfect device for my needs and I always have it on my person.
That was an excellent review. I have been looking to upgrade my old SPOT and this clearly helped me choose over the SPOT X. I like what my SPOT stands for, it just lacks in execution.
You won’t be disappointed. Here is a pro tip... if you need even better service and you are deep in woods, attach paracord to something heavy and throw over a tree limb.. tie the other end to the Garmin... hoist it up into the tree. Using Bluetooth you can communicate using your phone app that works with the explorer and send and receive texts in places you might otherwise not be able to do.. I’ve done that a couple times in the Appalachia where the valleys can be pretty tight and trees heavy,, usually just a little height solves it
@@aMAYSingLife thank you so much for all the quick responses. And yes, I saw that in your video where you were putting it up a tree to get reception all the while using your cell phone to text. I’m leaving Saturday for my cabin in the Utah mountains. I’m going to try and survive a winter there and return to Vegas in the Spring. To appease my wife I told here I would get an SOS devise in case I get injured or fire ... blah blah blah. Would be a difficult rescue where I’m going as I’m totally off grid 10 miles from the nearest road. I’m typically careful but you never know when accidents happen. I’ve been using Garmin products for years so I’m a little more comfortable with them. I already bought the Spot X but there were zero directions in the box. It’s going back tomorrow and replacing w the Garmin. Thank you again and great job w the video !
Great information/comparison on these two devices. GREAT presentation. Have a Spot Gen 3 that I've used for basic check-in for years but wanted a way to send more in depth non-emergency information. Received the Spot X for Christmas this year but toying with it for the past couple of days I don't find it very user friendly (ie; the keyboard and no alert saying the message didn't send OR that the message went through OR I received an incoming message). You provided all the answers I need. Spot X goes back and the Garmin InReach is my pick thanks to you! Garmin should hire you as a PR rep. Happy New Years to you and family ... Stay safe!!!
Great video review I like the way they were side bye side and that it didn’t work as well as you would think in the woods at least . I for one thought as long as I was outside anywhere in the world you were good to go . Thanks for making it 👍👍
I think Garmin's use of the Iridium network is enough reason to choose it, and the other features make it a clear winner. I have used various versions of Spot devices for work as a trail builder and wilderness ranger, and although they always worked, they were never ideal. Quite often I wished I could send a message that said "I'm going to be late, but I'm OK", or "changing itinerary to plan B", etc. Spot is great for an entry level SOS button, but anyone who spends a significant amount of time in remote areas should something more capable. I'm currently using the inReach Mini for mountaineering and hunting.
let me know how it goes.. The only thing to remember is the battery life of the mini can be pretty short so if you decide to take it on over night hikes, bring a battery charger or put in expedition mode to conserve battery.
Thanks for putting the summary together - good job. I used SPOT when these devices first came out, then to InReach (We use about 5 devices throughout the year). I just bought a SPOTX - my first use of the device was a bit disappointing - poor screen/keyboard etc - looks like it is 10 yrs behind the times. Jury out on coverage... At the end of the day though - EVERYONE should have one of these type of devices for back-country recreation or work - simply too cheap of a lifesaving tool not to...
This is a great informative video .... If when making individual comparisons about features, etc., it would help clarify those comments, if instead of saying "this one" or "the other one", you could state the name of the device "SPOT" or "Garmin" ... the video otherwise helped me make a buyers choice
I used the inreach explorer plus in the mountains of SW Washington for 5 days this month (July 2018). I must say, it works well. You have to understand, it is NOT a cell phone. You won't get instant gratification for sending and receiving. Trust me, I learned this. Sometimes I would type and send a message and it got acknowledged as transmitted in as little as 10 seconds. Sometimes, it took way longer. I think almost an hour at one time. Keep in mind, this was from the exact same camping location. So, to me it's a busy network issue more than a look angle to the satellite issue but I may be wrong. If it's taking a long time and you get a transmission error, simply reboot the device. This happened twice in 5 days and it was no big deal. It seems the the device is taking a long time to transmit a simple message, it sometimes gives you an error. I always reboot. Not a big deal because the pending message will immediately try to transmit again. So, in 5 days there was only one frustrating occurrence when it took an hour to get a message out. Other than that, I think it the overall average was a minute or two. Just like the video said, you send the message on the Garmin and you get flashing up and down arrows indicating it is trying to send. Then, the garmin gives you an audible tone saying it's sent. Now you just wait for your reply. Overall, I'll give it 4.5 out of 5 stars. If you can remember it's not a cell phone, you will love this device and it will give you tremendous peace of mind anywhere you go.....
Thanks David. In my testing sending to my own cell phone, the acknowledgement beep (message went) almost always corresponds to the instant the message is received on my cell phone (receive device). So, a good indicator is, when your Garmin gives you the "message sent" indication, it's likely just being received on the other end. Whether that takes less than a minute or several minutes. Also, the device has a programmable "check message" window. I think mine was set to 10 minutes. So, a reply can take longer if your device is set up to only check in a given amount of time. This obviously is programmable to save battery. You can always click on the "check message" icon and check anytime you want to see if you have incoming messages. It's a good little device that gives me peace of mind out in the woods with spotty cell service.
and peace of mind to your spouse who knows you can signal any problem or signal that things are ok. I own on Garmin InReach Explorer + and love it. Use it in fishing/hunting trips where an accident can happen and where I am out of cell signal.
I used a Garmin inReach Mini this summer on The Colorado Trail. I loved it, and also learned like you that messages sometimes are fast and other times slow. There's no way of predicting which it will be. You can send 5 messages quickly and then the 6th will take 15 mins. Sometimes the receiver will get the messages out of order too. That said, I wouldn't hike in the backcountry without one. I know my device helped me stay connected to family and friends and was always there if something bad had happened. A day before I passed through segment 8 a lady hiking with her daughter took a bad step off the trail and shattered both her tibia and fibula (lower leg bones). She was saved because of some paramedics who happened to be mountain biking that day. With no cell signal, things could have been really bad.
Thanks for the comment, I'm in the same area and was wondering if the InReach would work well (think Brown's camp, or WABDR/Stevenson) - Good to know you found it successful.
Great review, I chose the InReach. The biggest con for it you missed; There is no SD slot so it doesn’t support backroad map books and they do not offer a way to upload this info. In my area this is essential information when using the GPS function. Garmin has stated that the next generation will have the SD slot but that doesn’t help current owners... Why I can’t pay to upload this info is beyond me. The communications works great though and battery life is excellent.
I used the previous generation SPOT, it works on all landmasses except Southern Part of Africa (Namibia) and I was in Namibia. Just get an Iridium phone. I used that one in Africa as well, works really well and SpaceX is busy launching hundreds of Iridium 2 satellites.
I find the Garmin great. You can also leve it outside in the rain while sitting inside out of the weather and use your phone. In New Zealand the spot 2 did not work at all in some places.
Thanks for the comparison. I’ve just ended my subscription to my Spot Gen 3. Now I am choosing between Spot X, InReach Explorer & the Mini. Leaning towards Mini. You’ve helped me pretty much decide against the X. 😎
Excellent thorough review! Thanks. Really rethinking! I spend sometimes 9 days alone out of cell range deep in the adirondacks woods. It has to work for me to invest! I'm going back to Africa and need reliability in the Bush!
Coondog's outdoor adventures I would highly recommend their new 66st given the nature of your journeys.. it’s not cheap but has full mapping capability and the battery lasts longer than the Inreach plus it’s fully integrated into the garmin world which allows using with their watches etc. Did I mention it isn’t cheap... but seriously depending on what you do, it could be worth it. I love mine. I upgraded from the explorer a year or so ago and haven’t looked back.. for hikers it’s a no brained.
@@aMAYSingLife Thanks, been using compass and paper map for 35 years. I'm mostly interested in the tracking , texting , and emergency signal so my wife knows I'm safe. Do you know how it handles in the cold? Last April in the 20s my go pro did not work. Too cold for batery. I could keep it in an inside pocket. I could use a power pack to recharge and leave it off when stationary.
Coondog's outdoor adventures I’ve used it down to the teens without issue and I normally leave it hanging on the outside pocket of my jacket. At camp it’s normally hanging somewhere for best reception.
@@aMAYSingLife I took what you said and other reviews to heart. I ended up getting the Garmin's expedition. It was the best for myprice range. I'm in a heavy canopy and the Spot seems to be less reliable, the expedition gets a signal in Africa. The map on the unit and longer batery life. My wife and family can know I'm ok and get help anywhere. Even if I go back to Siberia. The suspending the plan to same money I like too.
The spot device can be paid for on a monthly basis. And then discontinued until the next trip. So the plans must have changed since you filmed this video. I have an older version of spot and not had any issues with it. My old device does have coverage in Africa, it just says that it may take longer to get the SOS out.
My understanding that it can take a little while for the satellites to come in range. It’s not always necessary to relocate. Depending on the urgency of the situation, one could stay put for a little while and possibly it will send once the satellite is closer.My understanding is that it is normal to sometimes have to wait.
This is correct and seeing that Spot has about 1/2 of the satellites in operation than the Iridium network this makes complete sense. I just spoke this weekend to a Spot rep and they stated after 5 minutes if it hasn't worked, then moving is likely needed. The new version of the spot device DOES have a notification method of letting you know if a message went out. This is a huge feature upgrade to the new device as it gives you more assurance in your signal. The downside of the 5 min window is if you have come and go signal a conversation with EMS could require a long time as one message goes out, the response waits 5 min then goes and so forth. That would be exhausting and I faced that in my testing so the potential is valid.
I was about to buy the new spot, but I read too many complaints. I have the GARMIN and trying to type a message on that unit is really hard. I will have to learn how to use the blue tooth.
DAVID HENDRIX the app is a game changer... both the explorer and of course the mini use the app and it is great! Of course having the ability to use the device by itself without a possibly dead phone is critical for emergency situations..
I switched from a Spot gen 1 to an Inreach SE when they came out because I was finding message sending to be unreliable, and like you said, there was no confirmation. It's really too bad they haven't addressed the problem, the inreach prices are going sky high with no real competition.
Great review and comparison. This was both informative and helpful. One point that might be of interest is that when comparing two transceivers, do not have them in close proximity as that may de-sense the devices. With that being said, the front end on the Garmin or the technology for that particular satillite system (or both) may be much more robust and was not effected by the de-sense. (SWAG) Thanks Again.
From what I have read, the gps satellites will be no more than 20 minutes apart from passing overhead close enough to complete a transmission. That should be relativiley the same for each unit. You're correct, they aren't for everyday communication but in an emergency situation I like having one around. I have the Garmin.
Great testing video! My fear is for people who are in places like deep canyons and slot canyons and stuff like that. Try getting stuck in a slot canyon who knows if there is any possibility of signal
Yeah that’s always a concern.. I have hoisted mine up into a tree with rope to get service before.. it helps but not guaranteed, but nothing in life is..
Great review. I bought the Spotx and I will return it back to the store and get the Garmin. I tried to download the latest firmware on my spotx and got constant error messages. Spent 40m waiting to talk to a tech support who ended up not being able to help. Terrible customer service!
Good idea they're going to burn you the second year spot Jax the Pikes up the second year to use this device everyone hates the spot website look at Google Map review so many people are leaving bad comments about spot LLC if they disabled their comments on their UA-cam channel so that people wouldn't be leaving all this bad information they don't want you to know what people think of them their website says $99 a year for Generation 1 one-way communication but that's a lie it's $170 a year for the most basic basic service with no insurance $300 a year plus for the most basic basic service on two way communication
Great review has helped me make a decision on what to buy for my trip to alaska on the motorcycle. One thing would like to see is a comparison of the new Garmin Mini
I am also planning a trip through Canada and Alaska and since I have an older spot device that works, I am going to use the Spot X, There are now plans for spot that are good on a month by month basis without having to pay for a year contract. Perfect for my Motorcycle Road trip
yes, you are correct about the mini in that it can send custom messages.. Unfortunately I had to take the representatives word on the Mini since I didn't have one to test myself at the time of the video.. It just goes to show that trusting a rep for all things regarding a device is sometimes not trustworthy. I also had a Spot rep tell me there wasn't a backlight on the device when I called with the device to inquire about it. Of course, that was proven false as well. I do say even with the back light it is still far more difficult to read due to the inability to increase the font size. The InReach and of course the mini due to the phone use makes it very easy and fast to send/receive texts and read them. Sorry for the delay in seeing this too.. I must have seen it at a time I couldn't respond then forgot. Thanks for your input!!
Great comparison. We've been researching various iridium options and were leaning toward the inReach based on other reviews. Price point is an issue for some, without a doubt. I'd be interested in your opinion of the Garmin InReach Mini - seems to be pretty much a safety net text and SOS device, but much cheaper than the Explore model.
You don't need phone to send messages from mini, it just clunky to write on small screen with 2 buttons, additional you can prepare messages on PC and save them to mini and send from up and dow list
Thank you for this informative vid. Real world test indeed. Do the service providers prioritize on urgency? Will the SMS be slower than the SOS emergency help? Merry Xmas from Canada. I really appreciate your efforts. Thank you.
Well if you have SMS support you then must have cellular support so likely you are best to use your phone to call them. If you are remote and will require rescue you still may be better initiating an sos if you have the yearly insurance provided through that service that will cover up to 150k in rescue services. Of course if you are in a timely life threatening situation by all means use fastest method possible which would likely be cell phone as you can have a voice conversation with 911. Hope that helps.
Excellent video best I have watched. I spent $800.00 brought a sat phone pay $35.00 a month can cancel anytime. At $1.00 a minute I can talk to people and send my location anytime. Pay a fee to connect go away for 2 months when back home I phone them and cancel. Has worldwide coverage. I brought it purely for emergency use when out of cell phone range. I have used it twice just to see if it worked phoned a friend from the middle of a desert worked fine. I have had it for 7 years never been a problem. I really don't know why these units are so expensive for simply texting units? My outlay was high but saved me a fortune because I only pay when I want to use it.
Thanks! I agree the sat phones are definite getting more and more compelling. There is a bit different purpose to these devices than the phone as the tracking/mapping/and emergency services is their primary function while you can make a call to services, you may or may not be in a position to determine your location and explain that to the responder. The constancy tracking on the small devices allows for someone not with you who is tracking your progress to know when something goes wrong even if you are unable to notify. So there are some differences but I agree phone is more and more compelling.. wish they would combine the functions..
the Spot X now has a Blue-tooth version. Which means you can use the Spot X app, to do many of the same things he mentions in this video when connecting to the Garmin.
Fair review overall. However, I didn't find the Spot X keypad all that difficult to use. I've been using my Spot X for 3 weeks and every message/social media post I've sent has gone out (I live in Arkansas). The UI of the Spot X was easy for me to navigate. The Spot also has flexible service plans now. The Spot X is new and I think future firmware updates will improve its functionality. I personally would not try to use either device as a navigation tool. InReach maps are not detailed enough for that. So far I'm pleased with the Spot X.
I actually use the Goal Zero pack (the 28w that folds pretty small). In fact, when on the bike I also carry a 20w kit that daisy chains giving me 48w charging power. I can obviously carry a lot more than a backpacker while traveling by moto. The goal zero does a good job charging it though. I carry an Anker PD 28000 battery pack that charges off the bike. This allows me to charge camera equipment, the Garmin etc even my laptop. IF I were backpacking I could get away with just the goal zero 28w or I also have a smaller one that would be enough to charge the Garmin but likely not much else. ideally you have one charge pack that charges as you are hiking so it can store the energy then you use it that night to recharge necessary items. the Garmin lasts about 4 days on a charge (turn tracking off at destinations) but can last much longer if you put it in expedition mode (I think that is what it is called). I have just upgraded to the new Garmin 66st and will be doing a review on it once I get some time under my belt with it. So far I love it but there is a lot going on with this unit so going to take a bit longer to give a real world test on it.
That is a tricky one to answer because my needs don’t fit everyone else’s. What I did was upgrade to the 66si which has full mapping capability even levels of turn by turn for road use. Has a bigger screen and faster processor. It connects to my Garmin watch which is another plus. I had an Apple Watch for years and loved it but got sick of it going dead every 24 hrs. I have the solar Fenix 9 and love it. I didn’t actually know at the time that it connected directly to my Inreach. Others can use the mini and it be perfect for them. The reason I didn’t go with it initially was due to it not having as good of a battery life as the Inreach explorer, even my 66si gets several days, even more if I put in expedition mode. I need to do a new video on the 66si.. it’s been out a year but it’s still an awesome product. It is also fully into the Garmin ecosphere meaning that it is not a legacy from the purchase of Delorme which made the inReach initially. For those who primarily want to have the peace of mind of sos and at the same time be able to reach out and text a loved one when you are away without cell, then the explorer is possibly still the way to go. It’s pretty bullet proof at this point. If battery life isn’t as big a deal and you always have your phone with you (for easier texting) then the mini might be the way. If you also hike, Jeep, camp for days, explore and need mapping that is always reliable, the 66si would be my recommendation. Hope that helps.
There were a significant number of tests done from holding it in the sky, separating them etc and none of the changes made a difference. The test as recorded was to ease filming but by no way resulted in a reflection of inaccurate results as all my tests including several locations while holding the unit. Nothing made a difference. The video I filmed showed it that way simply because I was the only one out there so I recorded in the best method I had at the time. Again this was not my only test. This is an example of the result of my tests.
Spot x2 has a tiny number showing it went out. Plus I love and I want the SOV. as I travel alone. I might need the help with a tow on my bike or in my car boom docking. I wonder if GARMIN offers that in the Coverage?
some features such as the notification you speak of has been added since this video was made. Spot stated they were going to supply me with the Spot X Bluetooth which has updated features but it never arrived and I haven't bothered to contact them. The SOV? What is that acronym? If you mean search and rescue support, they both use the same service for about the same cost per year.
SOV = save my vehicle and or motorcycle. When totally off road Boondocking. And I’ve heard no other device offers that with a subscription.none But Spot. Gen 3 and just heard spotx2 as well. It cast but it will be worth it to me. As my Vehicle will be my home at the time.
Very useful video, thank you ... I am not a fan of GARMIN products and except for an Edge cycle computer, I generally avoid GARMIN... in my opinion not user friendly and bulky ... was looking at the SPOTX ... but you provided useful information...
One of the best tech comparison videos I've ever watched! No "unboxing" or studio shots. Just devices in action in an environment where they belong.
I am a hunter and have been hunting public lands out of state. My family worries about bear attacks and injury a great deal. I have been looking into these devices and found your video. I appreciate all of the detail and work that you have put into your video. I will be subscribing, liking, and sharing.
I love that you showed these literally side-by-side and highlighted that the Garmin gives you feedback as to whether its message got out. Also that both struggle to get messages out sometimes. That helps my decision tremendously.
I know this is old, but just for people's info
Spot X
Your sent messages will be displayed in the Messages screen....There are also 3 different icons indicate the status of a message:
The first is a chat bubble with a check mark indicating message sent.
The second is a chat bubble with a question mark indicating message sent, but the delivery could not be confirmed.
The third is a chat bubble with a X indicating message was not sent. This is usually due to poor GPS signal conditions.
This is the first video I've seen from your channel. I have watched so many that left holes in the info needed to make well educated choice. This comp was the best I've seen for this type item. I very much appreciated the "side by side" real life comparisons. Most manufacturer videos are all flash and optimal claims that fall apart in a rainstorm, under heavy interference from veggies, or city buildings. Thanks for a truly revealing comparison. It has helped me make a good decision for my needs.
Glad it served the purpose for you!! Happy trails!
Nice, balanced review. I have used the Garmin InReach for a few years now while deep sea fishing up to 70 miles out. It's an excellent way to let my family know where we are, what we caught, and when we'll be home. It is expensive, but our safety is worth it. Also, I really like being able to review my trips with the Earthmate app and to share my trip info in real time with my family and friends. Of course, the downside is that they now know all my favorite fishing spots. If you go places where there is no cell coverage, then you need to carry one of these devices. Garmin is my first choice.
Good review! Your first test proves that in the summer time when trees have all there leaves satellite signal can be blocked if your in heavy foliage. I remember back in the 1990's when satellite TV was the big thing, you had to be careful where you put your dish just for this reason.
Good Comparison Thank you. My Spot Gen 3 stopped sending when I was very remote , tried several things to change that but it turns out that Spot Gen 3 is now not functioning any longer and Spot advised me to purchase a new unit....As I go remote regularly I want a simple and effective SOS system...bottom line! With this review I will go Garmin inreacdh mini 2, from now on. Many thanks
I would also consider the zoleo as I believe it uses the iridium network and should have similar coverage as the Garmin and might have better battery than the mini 2. Worth taking a look at.
In the past, I always thought that I would never need something like that, until I had an acccident in a National Park in Italy. My BMW SOS button didn't work because I had no access to the rescue service. So I was laying on the ground with no cell access. I was lucky that a colleague was there and got help. Today I bought a Spot X. NEVER ride alone.
Laying on the road??!! These protestors are getting desperate
Great comparison. I owned the Spot: ver 1 & 2. The ver 1 model didn't prevent accidental 'Help' messages from going out (different from SOS). They corrected it in the ver 2 model.
There were a few times when the SPOT "I'm OK" message didn't go out. Never knew it. Also, the batteries went weak on my on the Ver 2 model and I didn't know it. Eventually, my wife told me on the phone that she was no longer getting messages. I simply changed the batteries & it worked again. I did once have to use the SOS button in NZ. It did work. (Helicopter picked up the M/C rider but I never knew if he survived or not) But, I never knew if it went out or not. I now own & use the DeLorme InReach (before Garmin bought them out). Love it. I know when messages go out. I get audible signals when messages come it. The weather forecast option really comes in handy. Using the phone app in conjunction is really nice. All in all, it is more costly but worth it when you spend as much time in the backcountry as I do.
Spot has now updated their plans to support flex plans with a yearly $25 fee. Allows you turn the service on and off as you need it.
Great review and comparison! Thanks for taking the time and also doing the research (eg number of satellites each uses etc), calling Garmin for details on the Mini. Very generous of you to share all this! I’m on Spot Gen3 and looking to upgrade. Leaning to Garmin. Here in Canadian Rocky Mountains the Spot is, well, spotty. Some messages never get through and I never know when or why. Fortunately haven’t had to rely on it yet for an SOS, just updates to the Mrs from my solo hikes.
Again super helpful - many thanks
Great review. I went with the Spot X. They did some firmware updates, the SOS has been removed from on on screen interface, as well as the social media icon. I will be using this on rail trails, and some hikes, nothing super remote.
Excellent comparison and “real world” issues. Love to see your take on the InReach Mini.
OldPackMule love the unit. Wish the battery life was better. The input on the limited buttons is better than you would expect and of course you only need that function if you don’t have access to your phone which is the primary method of texting. The compact size is truly a benefit if all you need is the sos and 2 way text functions. Main concern is battery life so be ready to charge it with something it on a extended hike.
Thank you, David, for your in-depth and real case scenario video.
You are very welcome…
The Garmin is also providing coverage in both North and South of the hemisphere using Iridium not the Spot since using Globalstar for North America
Nice comparison! I bought an Inreach this year and the Spot X was released just a few weeks later and I worried that I made the wrong choice. The Inreach has worked great for us and your comparison just helped solidify that choice. Also worth noting that Garmin does have an extremely limited 'cheap' plan for just $12/mo, and I do love the ability to pause the subscription so I am not paying during months that we do not expect to use the Garmin.
I'm a private pilot and intend to fly across oceans later this year. After researching both these brands I found the the SPOT devices only work within tens of miles of ocean shorelines, while InReach works everywhere on planet earth. For pilots like me... and obviously for anyone who travels by ocean vessels... the *ONLY* viable option is the Garmin InReach Explorer+.
Thanks, I ended up watching this video review precisely with that usage in mind and I'm happy I found that answer from you.
Could you clarify within tens of miles of ocean shorelines? The Spot website shows this device to literally work anywhere in the world with very few exceptions.
Hmmmm, no. Where did you get that BS?
Really good practical review that is clearly not just payed advertising. Thanks mate, was having trouble deciding.
Been using a spot gen 1 tracker for years, LOVE IT, was headed the spot x way...but your real world demo showed not only the expanded feature set of the Garmin, but it just works better. Great use of a video media to show that, otherwise in written reports its often difficult to parse that reality from reviewer bias. I'm off to buy the Garmin, and I hope you healed fast after that truck pulled in front of you...I had a similar thing happen ~15yrs ago and still have the scars :\
Fantastic review! I am currently researching both devices for our Jeep adventures. You have confirmed "you get what you pay for".
You will hopefully enjoy our upcoming videos as we are in the process (should have one out this week) of producing Jeep videos as well! Enjoy!!
Spot X DOES give you a sent message confirmation. This review should be updated, because that almost convinced me NOT to get it, however it absolutely will let you know the message was sent. You go into the view all messages or view check ins and on the right side it will show an icon if it was indeed sent or if it failed to send with an icon. This is written in the manual of the Spot x as of this date. Maybe when you posted this originally it wasn't an option, but with the current firmware it does do this.
This is great news.. Competition is always a good thing. I'll verify this and add this to the comments. Do you have the bluetooth model or the original?
Great review. I have the Inreach Explorer by Inreach the older version before Garmin bought them out. I live in the NW and spend alot of time in the outback far away from people and cell towers. Great to communicate as I have and needed assistance with our declaring an SOS emergency.. Best thing is family and friends can communicate if there is a need to. Perfect device for my needs and I always have it on my person.
Thank you for this insightful comparison of these two communicators!
Thank you!
Such a big help to see real world side by side test. Thanks for taking the time to put this fine presentation together. So helpful!
Thanks for putting up with those mosquitos for us, they were in a frenzy! Great review!
That was an excellent review. I have been looking to upgrade my old SPOT and this clearly helped me choose over the SPOT X. I like what my SPOT stands for, it just lacks in execution.
Great job on the video and comparisons... taking the Spot back to Sportsman Warehouse tomorrow and getting the Garmin.
You won’t be disappointed. Here is a pro tip... if you need even better service and you are deep in woods, attach paracord to something heavy and throw over a tree limb.. tie the other end to the Garmin... hoist it up into the tree. Using Bluetooth you can communicate using your phone app that works with the explorer and send and receive texts in places you might otherwise not be able to do.. I’ve done that a couple times in the Appalachia where the valleys can be pretty tight and trees heavy,, usually just a little height solves it
@@aMAYSingLife thank you so much for all the quick responses. And yes, I saw that in your video where you were putting it up a tree to get reception all the while using your cell phone to text.
I’m leaving Saturday for my cabin in the Utah mountains. I’m going to try and survive a winter there and return to Vegas in the Spring. To appease my wife I told here I would get an SOS devise in case I get injured or fire ... blah blah blah. Would be a difficult rescue where I’m going as I’m totally off grid 10 miles from the nearest road.
I’m typically careful but you never know when accidents happen.
I’ve been using Garmin products for years so I’m a little more comfortable with them.
I already bought the Spot X but there were zero directions in the box. It’s going back tomorrow and replacing w the Garmin.
Thank you again and great job w the video !
GARMIN IN REACH!! ☺️🙌🏻 just got myself one, and can’t wait to take it on my thru hike of the PCT next year! Thanks for the great video
Good luck on your hike!! Thanks for the comment!
WheelSpin Productions thank you so much ☺️🙏🏻
Good video that didn't waste 20 minutes of my life! Good job on comparing the two. It would be great to do a followup to see how they've both matured.
I just spoke to Spot and the updated version does have fixes for many of the weak links. Looking forward to providing the updated video.
Thank you so much for this test I will be getting the Garman but it’s nice to see the review head to head Thanks!!
Fantastic job! This review has made my choice easier to pick the Garmin InReach. Thank you.
Thanks for all the great info. I already have the InReach, but you taught me about a feature I didn’t know about before. Keep the rubber side down!
Great information/comparison on these two devices. GREAT presentation. Have a Spot Gen 3 that I've used for basic check-in for years but wanted a way to send more in depth non-emergency information. Received the Spot X for Christmas this year but toying with it for the past couple of days I don't find it very user friendly (ie; the keyboard and no alert saying the message didn't send OR that the message went through OR I received an incoming message). You provided all the answers I need. Spot X goes back and the Garmin InReach is my pick thanks to you! Garmin should hire you as a PR rep. Happy New Years to you and family ... Stay safe!!!
I’m glad it helped give you a clear decision. Yeah wish I could at least have got a free device but all good. I never leave without it.
Great video review I like the way they were side bye side and that it didn’t work as well as you would think in the woods at least . I for one thought as long as I was outside anywhere in the world you were good to go . Thanks for making it 👍👍
David, That was an outstanding review / comparison. Thanks!!
Thank you so much for this review! Really great real world information that makes me a lot more confident in my purchasing decision.
I think Garmin's use of the Iridium network is enough reason to choose it, and the other features make it a clear winner. I have used various versions of Spot devices for work as a trail builder and wilderness ranger, and although they always worked, they were never ideal. Quite often I wished I could send a message that said "I'm going to be late, but I'm OK", or "changing itinerary to plan B", etc. Spot is great for an entry level SOS button, but anyone who spends a significant amount of time in remote areas should something more capable. I'm currently using the inReach Mini for mountaineering and hunting.
Agreed
Thank you for your review! I've been looking at different satellite trackers and this just helped me pick one.
thank u for the great honest review. just got the garmin inreach mini to conect to my overlander. hope it works out well
let me know how it goes.. The only thing to remember is the battery life of the mini can be pretty short so if you decide to take it on over night hikes, bring a battery charger or put in expedition mode to conserve battery.
Thanks for putting the summary together - good job. I used SPOT when these devices first came out, then to InReach (We use about 5 devices throughout the year). I just bought a SPOTX - my first use of the device was a bit disappointing - poor screen/keyboard etc - looks like it is 10 yrs behind the times. Jury out on coverage... At the end of the day though - EVERYONE should have one of these type of devices for back-country recreation or work - simply too cheap of a lifesaving tool not to...
agreed! and the insurance for search and rescue is ridiculously cheap compared to the cash required if you end up needing it. Travel safe!
You testing and trouble shooting skills is amazing.
I appreciate that.
This is a great informative video .... If when making individual comparisons about features, etc., it would help clarify those comments, if instead of saying "this one" or "the other one", you could state the name of the device "SPOT" or "Garmin" ... the video otherwise helped me make a buyers choice
Just got the InReach Explorer+... This was great to highlight some of the features. Thanks for sharing!
Very helpful real world review. Appreciate the time you took to produce this.
Thank you for the review. The demonstration was very helpful. It makes choosing a device that will fit my needs "real" world clear. Thanks again
This was great information and very well done. My usage would primarily be in the appalachians. Thanks. This is why I love UA-cam.
I used the inreach explorer plus in the mountains of SW Washington for 5 days this month (July 2018). I must say, it works well. You have to understand, it is NOT a cell phone. You won't get instant gratification for sending and receiving. Trust me, I learned this. Sometimes I would type and send a message and it got acknowledged as transmitted in as little as 10 seconds. Sometimes, it took way longer. I think almost an hour at one time. Keep in mind, this was from the exact same camping location. So, to me it's a busy network issue more than a look angle to the satellite issue but I may be wrong. If it's taking a long time and you get a transmission error, simply reboot the device. This happened twice in 5 days and it was no big deal. It seems the the device is taking a long time to transmit a simple message, it sometimes gives you an error. I always reboot. Not a big deal because the pending message will immediately try to transmit again. So, in 5 days there was only one frustrating occurrence when it took an hour to get a message out. Other than that, I think it the overall average was a minute or two. Just like the video said, you send the message on the Garmin and you get flashing up and down arrows indicating it is trying to send. Then, the garmin gives you an audible tone saying it's sent. Now you just wait for your reply. Overall, I'll give it 4.5 out of 5 stars. If you can remember it's not a cell phone, you will love this device and it will give you tremendous peace of mind anywhere you go.....
Thanks David. In my testing sending to my own cell phone, the acknowledgement beep (message went) almost always corresponds to the instant the message is received on my cell phone (receive device). So, a good indicator is, when your Garmin gives you the "message sent" indication, it's likely just being received on the other end. Whether that takes less than a minute or several minutes. Also, the device has a programmable "check message" window. I think mine was set to 10 minutes. So, a reply can take longer if your device is set up to only check in a given amount of time. This obviously is programmable to save battery. You can always click on the "check message" icon and check anytime you want to see if you have incoming messages. It's a good little device that gives me peace of mind out in the woods with spotty cell service.
and peace of mind to your spouse who knows you can signal any problem or signal that things are ok. I own on Garmin InReach Explorer + and love it. Use it in fishing/hunting trips where an accident can happen and where I am out of cell signal.
I used a Garmin inReach Mini this summer on The Colorado Trail. I loved it, and also learned like you that messages sometimes are fast and other times slow. There's no way of predicting which it will be. You can send 5 messages quickly and then the 6th will take 15 mins. Sometimes the receiver will get the messages out of order too. That said, I wouldn't hike in the backcountry without one. I know my device helped me stay connected to family and friends and was always there if something bad had happened. A day before I passed through segment 8 a lady hiking with her daughter took a bad step off the trail and shattered both her tibia and fibula (lower leg bones). She was saved because of some paramedics who happened to be mountain biking that day. With no cell signal, things could have been really bad.
Thanks for the comment, I'm in the same area and was wondering if the InReach would work well (think Brown's camp, or WABDR/Stevenson) - Good to know you found it successful.
Great review. Thanks for taking the time to explain some important differences!
Great review, I chose the InReach.
The biggest con for it you missed;
There is no SD slot so it doesn’t support backroad map books and they do not offer a way to upload this info.
In my area this is essential information when using the GPS function.
Garmin has stated that the next generation will have the SD slot but that doesn’t help current owners...
Why I can’t pay to upload this info is beyond me.
The communications works great though and battery life is excellent.
yes I agree with that for sure..
That's probably a hardware memory limit. No empty (wasted) onboard memory, never intended to be expanded.
I used the previous generation SPOT, it works on all landmasses except Southern Part of Africa (Namibia) and I was in Namibia. Just get an Iridium phone. I used that one in Africa as well, works really well and SpaceX is busy launching hundreds of Iridium 2 satellites.
I find the Garmin great. You can also leve it outside in the rain while sitting inside out of the weather and use your phone.
In New Zealand the spot 2 did not work at all in some places.
Thanks for the comparison. I’ve just ended my subscription to my Spot Gen 3. Now I am choosing between Spot X, InReach Explorer & the Mini. Leaning towards Mini. You’ve helped me pretty much decide against the X. 😎
David Mays Thank you for this extra information! 😎💙
Excellent thorough review! Thanks. Really rethinking! I spend sometimes 9 days alone out of cell range deep in the adirondacks woods. It has to work for me to invest! I'm going back to Africa and need reliability in the Bush!
Coondog's outdoor adventures I would highly recommend their new 66st given the nature of your journeys.. it’s not cheap but has full mapping capability and the battery lasts longer than the Inreach plus it’s fully integrated into the garmin world which allows using with their watches etc. Did I mention it isn’t cheap... but seriously depending on what you do, it could be worth it. I love mine. I upgraded from the explorer a year or so ago and haven’t looked back.. for hikers it’s a no brained.
@@aMAYSingLife Thanks, been using compass and paper map for 35 years. I'm mostly interested in the tracking , texting , and emergency signal so my wife knows I'm safe. Do you know how it handles in the cold? Last April in the 20s my go pro did not work. Too cold for batery. I could keep it in an inside pocket. I could use a power pack to recharge and leave it off when stationary.
Coondog's outdoor adventures I’ve used it down to the teens without issue and I normally leave it hanging on the outside pocket of my jacket. At camp it’s normally hanging somewhere for best reception.
@@aMAYSingLife I took what you said and other reviews to heart. I ended up getting the Garmin's expedition. It was the best for myprice range. I'm in a heavy canopy and the Spot seems to be less reliable, the expedition gets a signal in Africa. The map on the unit and longer batery life. My wife and family can know I'm ok and get help anywhere. Even if I go back to Siberia. The suspending the plan to same money I like too.
The spot device can be paid for on a monthly basis. And then discontinued until the next trip. So the plans must have changed since you filmed this video. I have an older version of spot and not had any issues with it. My old device does have coverage in Africa, it just says that it may take longer to get the SOS out.
Lots of detail and a great review. Lot of work to put that together. And thanks to the Mrs. 🙏
My understanding that it can take a little while for the satellites to come in range. It’s not always necessary to relocate. Depending on the urgency of the situation, one could stay put for a little while and possibly it will send once the satellite is closer.My understanding is that it is normal to sometimes have to wait.
This is correct and seeing that Spot has about 1/2 of the satellites in operation than the Iridium network this makes complete sense. I just spoke this weekend to a Spot rep and they stated after 5 minutes if it hasn't worked, then moving is likely needed. The new version of the spot device DOES have a notification method of letting you know if a message went out. This is a huge feature upgrade to the new device as it gives you more assurance in your signal. The downside of the 5 min window is if you have come and go signal a conversation with EMS could require a long time as one message goes out, the response waits 5 min then goes and so forth. That would be exhausting and I faced that in my testing so the potential is valid.
Thanks David I took will go with the Garmin 👍🏽
I believe you will be happy with your decision!
I was looking at these two devices and your review really helped me out. Thanks for posting.
Another benefit of using the Garmin Inreach Explorer Plus is that if you have to wear gloves, at least the Garmin can be operated as usual.
Clearly Garmin for the win
I was about to buy the new spot, but I read too many complaints. I have the GARMIN and trying to type a message on that unit is really hard. I will have to learn how to use the blue tooth.
DAVID HENDRIX the app is a game changer... both the explorer and of course the mini use the app and it is great! Of course having the ability to use the device by itself without a possibly dead phone is critical for emergency situations..
I switched from a Spot gen 1 to an Inreach SE when they came out because I was finding message sending to be unreliable, and like you said, there was no confirmation. It's really too bad they haven't addressed the problem, the inreach prices are going sky high with no real competition.
Great review and comparison. This was both informative and helpful. One point that might be of interest is that when comparing two transceivers, do not have them in close proximity as that may de-sense the devices. With that being said, the front end on the Garmin or the technology for that particular satillite system (or both) may be much more robust and was not effected by the de-sense. (SWAG) Thanks Again.
From what I have read, the gps satellites will be no more than 20 minutes apart from passing overhead close enough to complete a transmission. That should be relativiley the same for each unit. You're correct, they aren't for everyday communication but in an emergency situation I like having one around. I have the Garmin.
Great testing video! My fear is for people who are in places like deep canyons and slot canyons and stuff like that. Try getting stuck in a slot canyon who knows if there is any possibility of signal
Yeah that’s always a concern.. I have hoisted mine up into a tree with rope to get service before.. it helps but not guaranteed, but nothing in life is..
@@aMAYSingLife I’ll tell you what is guaranteed when you live in Florida. Face planting into a 3 inch spider on the trail like I did today!
well that sounds fun.. lol@@WeekendsOutsideFL
Great review. I bought the Spotx and I will return it back to the store and get the Garmin. I tried to download the latest firmware on my spotx and got constant error messages. Spent 40m waiting to talk to a tech support who ended up not being able to help. Terrible customer service!
Good idea they're going to burn you the second year spot Jax the Pikes up the second year to use this device everyone hates the spot website look at Google Map review so many people are leaving bad comments about spot LLC if they disabled their comments on their UA-cam channel so that people wouldn't be leaving all this bad information they don't want you to know what people think of them their website says $99 a year for Generation 1 one-way communication but that's a lie it's $170 a year for the most basic basic service with no insurance $300 a year plus for the most basic basic service on two way communication
Seems to prove that a backup PLB could be really necessary in some locations.
You don’t get to pick where accidents happen.
very true!
Yeah this basically just made my mind for me. Garmin it is. Thanks for the video!
Great review in real time and being outside in the trail .
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Great review. I just ordered the Garmin. I Alaska Cabin Rentals Kenai Peninsula mountains
Great review has helped me make a decision on what to buy for my trip to alaska on the motorcycle. One thing would like to see is a comparison of the new Garmin Mini
I am also planning a trip through Canada and Alaska and since I have an older spot device that works, I am going to use the Spot X, There are now plans for spot that are good on a month by month basis without having to pay for a year contract. Perfect for my Motorcycle Road trip
yes, you are correct about the mini in that it can send custom messages.. Unfortunately I had to take the representatives word on the Mini since I didn't have one to test myself at the time of the video.. It just goes to show that trusting a rep for all things regarding a device is sometimes not trustworthy. I also had a Spot rep tell me there wasn't a backlight on the device when I called with the device to inquire about it. Of course, that was proven false as well. I do say even with the back light it is still far more difficult to read due to the inability to increase the font size. The InReach and of course the mini due to the phone use makes it very easy and fast to send/receive texts and read them. Sorry for the delay in seeing this too.. I must have seen it at a time I couldn't respond then forgot. Thanks for your input!!
Saludos desde Costa Rica.
Excellent video,
Thanks a lot
Glad you liked it!
Garmin it is... The new Garmin InReach will be replacing my old Delorme - GREAT Review!
Great comparison. We've been researching various iridium options and were leaning toward the inReach based on other reviews. Price point is an issue for some, without a doubt. I'd be interested in your opinion of the Garmin InReach Mini - seems to be pretty much a safety net text and SOS device, but much cheaper than the Explore model.
You don't need phone to send messages from mini, it just clunky to write on small screen with 2 buttons, additional you can prepare messages on PC and save them to mini and send from up and dow list
Thank you for this informative vid. Real world test indeed. Do the service providers prioritize on urgency? Will the SMS be slower than the SOS emergency help?
Merry Xmas from Canada. I really appreciate your efforts. Thank you.
Well if you have SMS support you then must have cellular support so likely you are best to use your phone to call them. If you are remote and will require rescue you still may be better initiating an sos if you have the yearly insurance provided through that service that will cover up to 150k in rescue services. Of course if you are in a timely life threatening situation by all means use fastest method possible which would likely be cell phone as you can have a voice conversation with 911. Hope that helps.
Excellent real-world review. VERY helpful. Thank you!
Thank you for watching!
Excellent video best I have watched. I spent $800.00 brought a sat phone pay $35.00 a month can cancel anytime. At $1.00 a minute I can talk to people and send my location anytime. Pay a fee to connect go away for 2 months when back home I phone them and cancel. Has worldwide coverage. I brought it purely for emergency use when out of cell phone range. I have used it twice just to see if it worked phoned a friend from the middle of a desert worked fine. I have had it for 7 years never been a problem. I really don't know why these units are so expensive for simply texting units? My outlay was high but saved me a fortune because I only pay when I want to use it.
Thanks! I agree the sat phones are definite getting more and more compelling. There is a bit different purpose to these devices than the phone as the tracking/mapping/and emergency services is their primary function while you can make a call to services, you may or may not be in a position to determine your location and explain that to the responder. The constancy tracking on the small devices allows for someone not with you who is tracking your progress to know when something goes wrong even if you are unable to notify. So there are some differences but I agree phone is more and more compelling.. wish they would combine the functions..
the Spot X now has a Blue-tooth version. Which means you can use the Spot X app, to do many of the same things he mentions in this video when connecting to the Garmin.
Yes, I just read about that.. I'm going to modify the title to include this info.. Thanks for the reminder.
Fair review overall. However, I didn't find the Spot X keypad all that difficult to use. I've been using my Spot X for 3 weeks and every message/social media post I've sent has gone out (I live in Arkansas). The UI of the Spot X was easy for me to navigate. The Spot also has flexible service plans now. The Spot X is new and I think future firmware updates will improve its functionality. I personally would not try to use either device as a navigation tool. InReach maps are not detailed enough for that. So far I'm pleased with the Spot X.
Thank you for this excellent and needed detailed revew!
I just found your review and it was one of the best. How about remote charging utilizing some of the portable solar powered charging devices?
I actually use the Goal Zero pack (the 28w that folds pretty small). In fact, when on the bike I also carry a 20w kit that daisy chains giving me 48w charging power. I can obviously carry a lot more than a backpacker while traveling by moto. The goal zero does a good job charging it though. I carry an Anker PD 28000 battery pack that charges off the bike. This allows me to charge camera equipment, the Garmin etc even my laptop. IF I were backpacking I could get away with just the goal zero 28w or I also have a smaller one that would be enough to charge the Garmin but likely not much else. ideally you have one charge pack that charges as you are hiking so it can store the energy then you use it that night to recharge necessary items. the Garmin lasts about 4 days on a charge (turn tracking off at destinations) but can last much longer if you put it in expedition mode (I think that is what it is called). I have just upgraded to the new Garmin 66st and will be doing a review on it once I get some time under my belt with it. So far I love it but there is a lot going on with this unit so going to take a bit longer to give a real world test on it.
Great video very informative but the mosquitoes though holy crapp
lol, yeah, get in the shade around that area and they will lift you off! Glad you enjoyed it!
Spot X does recommend that the antenna be held straight up, like you did with the garmin.
That was only for filming purposes. I held both up in numerous testing scenarios and results were the same
Really well made review. Thanks for taking the time to do this, 🍺
So if you fall off a cliff hiking and break your back and you get no reception you have to crawl to a clearing????
John Caban avoiding all risk is never guaranteed! 😀 That's why we call it adventure!
Good test cases and logic to assess the benefits of each device.
Great review I need sat link as I sail around Atlantic
Excellent review its a Garmin for m
So as of today (Nov 17, 2020) which would you purchase ?
Which one requires less effort to learn, setup, and use?
That is a tricky one to answer because my needs don’t fit everyone else’s. What I did was upgrade to the 66si which has full mapping capability even levels of turn by turn for road use. Has a bigger screen and faster processor. It connects to my Garmin watch which is another plus. I had an Apple Watch for years and loved it but got sick of it going dead every 24 hrs. I have the solar Fenix 9 and love it. I didn’t actually know at the time that it connected directly to my Inreach. Others can use the mini and it be perfect for them. The reason I didn’t go with it initially was due to it not having as good of a battery life as the Inreach explorer, even my 66si gets several days, even more if I put in expedition mode. I need to do a new video on the 66si.. it’s been out a year but it’s still an awesome product. It is also fully into the Garmin ecosphere meaning that it is not a legacy from the purchase of Delorme which made the inReach initially. For those who primarily want to have the peace of mind of sos and at the same time be able to reach out and text a loved one when you are away without cell, then the explorer is possibly still the way to go. It’s pretty bullet proof at this point. If battery life isn’t as big a deal and you always have your phone with you (for easier texting) then the mini might be the way. If you also hike, Jeep, camp for days, explore and need mapping that is always reliable, the 66si would be my recommendation. Hope that helps.
Very useful review. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. Too bad if you have a broken neck and you don't have a signal. Pretty hard to walk to a area with good reception.
I believe the spot X has to be vertical for best results. you were laying it down horizontal on your bike
There were a significant number of tests done from holding it in the sky, separating them etc and none of the changes made a difference. The test as recorded was to ease filming but by no way resulted in a reflection of inaccurate results as all my tests including several locations while holding the unit. Nothing made a difference. The video I filmed showed it that way simply because I was the only one out there so I recorded in the best method I had at the time. Again this was not my only test. This is an example of the result of my tests.
How about a review of the Bivystick?I tried it, it was super easy to use!
Spot x2 has a tiny number showing it went out. Plus I love and I want the SOV. as I travel alone. I might need the help with a tow on my bike or in my car boom docking. I wonder if GARMIN offers that in the Coverage?
some features such as the notification you speak of has been added since this video was made. Spot stated they were going to supply me with the Spot X Bluetooth which has updated features but it never arrived and I haven't bothered to contact them. The SOV? What is that acronym? If you mean search and rescue support, they both use the same service for about the same cost per year.
SOV = save my vehicle and or motorcycle. When totally off road Boondocking. And I’ve heard no other device offers that with a subscription.none But Spot. Gen 3 and just heard spotx2 as well. It cast but it will be worth it to me. As my Vehicle will be my home at the time.
Very useful video, thank you ... I am not a fan of GARMIN products and except for an Edge cycle computer, I generally avoid GARMIN... in my opinion not user friendly and bulky ... was looking at the SPOTX ... but you provided useful information...
Garmon is my choice
Subscribed! Great video! Thank you.
Awesome, thank you!
Wow this is a fantastic And thorough review!!! Thank u for the info!!!
great review!! you covered everything i wanted to know.
Soul Laugh glad you liked it!
I will keep my Garmin. Thanks for the comparison.