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I have the Zoleo and so far, it’s been working great. They’ve made some updates in the past year with Location share + that make it competitive with the inreach: check ins including your location are now unlimited and you can share a breadcrumb trail that updates at a specified interval with your check in contacts similar to the inreach mini. Also, I heard that new users can no longer customize the unlimited presets on the Garmin inreach which used to be a major advantage. I still think it’s beneficial that the Garmin has full functionality as a standalone device, but for me, the mentioned changes have tipped the scales in Zoleo’s favor.
One important cost saving feature of Garmin's products is the ability to suspend service when not in use. I tend to go on 3-4 major trips per year but far fewer smaller hikes. This means I just suspend service in between hikes which saves me 6-7 monthly payments per year. I've used the Garmin & this 'suspend' option over the past 4-5 years which has saved me the cost of a new Garmin Mini (as I'm about to change from the Explorer+) !
Excellent point! I tent to keep mine on all the time since I'm somewhere basically everyone month (even if just for the day). But YES, this is something I wish I had mentioned in my video, so thanks for brining it up here! Hope you enjoy the mini! I relied on mine immensely over the last 8 days when I was on a 100 mile backpacking trip in the Uinta mountains. Wonderfully easy to keep in touch with my wife even while I was deep in the mountains out of cell range. Thanks for your comment!
How does that affect the yearly cost, think its~37/ year. You still owe that no matter what correct? Wish garmin was a little more easy to understand the pricing
Tracking - I don’t use it so much for me, but so my family can keep track of me. It gives my wife HUGE peace of mind to be able to watch my hiking progress on a map, and to see, almost real-time, that I am actually still moving. I don’t think she would be near as supportive of my hiking habits if I didn’t have my inReach!
I definitely agree that the peace of mind for loved ones at home is a massive benefit. That is honestly probably THE reason I bought the Garmin. The SOS button is nice I suppose, but I would have bought it even without the SOS button. Thanks for watching!
I’ve field tested the Zoleo and it worked great. I don’t like to spend a lot of time communicating while out on my back country hikes. I’ve been out in slot canyons and deep in forests and had no troubles whatsoever. What I liked about the Zoleo was it was there then I needed it. I never had a problem with someone getting a text. Using the Zoleo app I was able to write a novel. I recommend the Zoleo based on my personal experience.
That's awesome! Ya, for me I like the Garmin just because it can be a stand alone with full functionality, but that's probably just an irrational fear that my phone will die and I'll need the full functionality for something. But I know a lot of backpackers who dig the zoleo. Makes me glad there are lots of options so we can all get something that works for us! Thanks for watching!
@@29erallday I believe the SOS and checkin function (I'm okay) work independent of any phone/app. Phone app just allows you to send customised messages.
"if she chooses to" 🤣🤣🤣 Ya, really the main reason I bought it is so I can let my wife know things are going alright. She says she has planned my funeral countless times while I'm out on long trips because she has no idea how I'm doing. All the planning has be worried... 😆 But she worries way less now since I can check in often. Thanks so much for watching and I'm glad you found it helpful!
UA-cam is telling me you put another comment here but I can’t see it. Dang UA-cam gremlins. But the preview shows me the first line. I also enjoy strawberry pop tarts! I could see anything you comment after that. 🤣
Thanks for the review! In fact, Zoleo has one pre-set unlimited location sharing and "I am okay" text for an additional $6.00 USD / month for the cheapest and the mid plan. For the most expensive plan, everything is unlimited by default. But it would still take the last place in your first priority anyway due to one customizable pre-set text only.
Hey Iegor! Thanks for adding some clarity! Ya, I don't think it would have changed my final decision at all, but your comment will be helpful to others trying to decide which way to go! Thanks for adding to the discussion!
Thanks, Marco! Really appreciate that! Figured I had to do something with all that research I did before I bought my inReach mini! 🤣 thanks so much for watching!!
YES! The dive case is a sweet option! Scuba sounds so cool. I keep saying I need to take classes and get certified, but it's just one of those things I Never get done. Hope you find the right device that works for you!
Just keep in mind, GPS signals DO NOT WORK UNDERWATER. It’s only going to work as a “location” device on the surface. But to have it with you as a diver would be good insurance.
I like the way you list your priorities. I am a sailor. My main priority is man overboard. Anywhere on The Great Lakes you can always be in contact with the coast guard via VHF radio. I need to list the priorities that are important to me.
Thanks Stan! Ya, different features are important to different people so the “right” gear will be different. Man, sailing sounds awesome! Thanks so much for watching!
I chose the Bivy Stick. Although more expensive up front it has no hook fees, no annual fees, has a dedicated number apposed to a shared type of network and can track and communicate with other Bivy Sticks. The basic plan is the cheapest and has unlimited check in. It also does not need the extra membership fee for location sharing. On the off season I can deactivate it at no extra fees and save more money not paying the monthly plan. It is very compact and light weight and with the built in 1/4 thread it can be mounted to any GoPro type mounts. I have 6 months of continues use now and I am very satisfied with it. The Mini was a close second choice for me, Zoleo I felt didn't stack up and the extra operating cost is not attractive! Thank you for sharing your insight, I feel many will benefit from it. Take care be safe✌️
Thanks for your comment! Sounds like Bivy could have been a contender if the 'stand alone unit' thing weren't a deal breaker for me because everything else sounds awesome! Unlimited check-in is definitely a must for me as well as being able to deactivate during the off season. I like the fact that it can work on GoPro mounts as well. Agreed that the Zoleo just doesn't seem like a good choice (at least for me). Thanks for watching and even more for sharing your thoughts!
@@DoseofDirt For sure using a phone app is not for everyone! And I must add that from experience if you forget to disable Bluetooth once done, your phone's battery will run dry quickly having Bluetooth running! thanks again✌
I'm sold on the Bivy Stick too. I don't have one yet, but that will be my choice when I do get a satellite communicator. It will be mostly for using on my sailboat when I don't have cell service. Even if I fall overboard without my phone, with the Bivy Stick I can send an SOS message. The cost of the unit and the plan is lower than the others. Battery life is not a problem since I have 420 watts of solar power and a 200 amp hour lithium iron phosphate battery.
I thought that your review of the 4 products was very fair & well balanced. Al thought I figured that you were going for the Mini since you were waving it around, you chose it because of the requirements that you needed. Thanks for the great review!
Thanks, Sam! I tried to give all the devices a fair shake and in the end the mini one out! I've had it for over a year now and no regrets whatsoever! Thanks so much for watching and for your comment!
For me it would be the garmin explorer+, for the much better battery life, and for the ability to use it as a fully functioning GPS (and not need a phone or watch which are another point of failure). Though I still bring a backup in the form of a map in a map bag, a protractor, and a good compass.
I think you make a good point and argument for the Explorer plus. I guess my phone has just become such regular part of my every day ferry that I don’t even think about it. So far I like having my maps and messenger on separate devices, but everyone has different preferences. Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! Always like to know what gear others choose and why, because I don’t think there is where one “right” piece of gear for everyone.
What is a hidden factor in the Garmin Mini vs. Explorer+ comparison is that when they are comparing the battery life, they are JUST comparing tracking. When you start USING the additional features of the Explorer+, your battery life starts falling quickly in line with (or even less than, if you are frequently using the map/backlight) the Mini. I did a 9 day hike where I was hiking with a fellow who had an Explorer+ - he ended up charging his a couple more times than I had to charge my Mini over the same time/distance.
👍 Thanks. Good info. I’m a solo hiker planning a extended backcountry trip and basically only need a SOS button. The Mini it is. I’m a old fart I still use paper maps and a compass.
If you just need an SOS button, I think the mini is the way to go! Sounds like an awesome trip! Nothing like being out in the back country solo! I think more people need to be comfortable with a paper map and compass! Those things never run out of battery! 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for your video discovery some important differences in satellite communicators I would take issue with one thing you said, however, you refer to these as personal locator beacon’s these are not personal locator beacon’s, and the true sense of the word. These are satellite communicators, and there are some very important distinctions. Personal locator beacon‘s were built specifically for search and rescue. They use three different satellite constellations each constellation is comprised of numerous satellites, therefore, offering you the best coverage throughout the world. Also personal locator beacons have a much higher level of power they generally output 5 W of power, most of the satellite, communicators output between one and 1.6 W disc can become crucial if you were stranded deep in a Canyon or under a tree canopy that is snow-covered a signal that can’t get out is no good. Also personal locator beacon’s have a built-in battery certified to last 5 to 7 years, so there is no forgetting to recharge the battery again this is a huge advantage. Finally most governments of the world subscribe to the search and rescue plan that supported by personal locator vegans we put down all political differences, and all that is put aside in order to save lives. So, in my opinion, the best option is to have both devices because one of the limiting factors of a personal locator beacon is to wake communication that is not offered in most personal locator beacon‘s, but what is offered is that assurance that rescue and help is on the way if I had to choose one which I originally did, I went with a personal locator beacon. The one I use is made by the brand a CR. I’m about ready to invest in a satellite communicator now to round out my search and rescue and disaster coverage. this video was helpful to me and trying to assess which satellite communicator to get one final note I have heard that there have been deaths that have occurred because spot did not send a rescue when the SOS feature was activated they determined that it was not a “real“ emergency, and because of that people died. That cannot happen with a personal locator beacon. Once those are activated help will be sent. there’s just a big difference in the two that the satellite communicators are all run on private satellite networks where the personal locator beacons are all government controlled satellites and again purposely built for search and rescue from the ground up the whole system, the satellite constellation to the ground station, and the hardware everything was built with life-saving in mind. Thanks again.
Great review man! I'm in the market for one of these devices. I have decided to get the Garmin Inreach Explorer plus. I feel a stand alone device that I can download topo maps would work better for me:)
Thank you for your comment! I should have mentioned the topo maps, because that was one thing that was making me lean towards the Explorer+. But I typically use my phone for navigation so decided to keep my PLB for just that. But the same one doesn't work for everyone, so it's cool to know what you decided on and why! Thanks so much for watching!
Really helpful analysis! You hit all of my important priorities in a clear, concise and humorous fashion. Much appreciated. I had already purchased the Garmin Mini and was doing the in-depth research… well…after the fact. I know… backwards. But I had a pretty good idea what I wanted. Our priorities lined up well, so your review was spot-on. Hmmmm. Bad pun, maybe. At any rate, you are good! The video is not only full of quality info, but has a professional, classy feel. Top notch! Thanks for your work. The bloopers show you really are human, like the rest of us. :) Happy trails!
haha! Thanks, Sue! Super appreciated! I'm glad the video was helpful for you! I just got back from an 8 day backpacking trip and used the inreach mini A LOT to keep in touch with home. Custom text messages, location pings, and standard checkins were all super easy (and light!) with the inreach mini! Hope you like yours!
I, too, settled on the Mini. I first got the Explorer+, thinking I would use the map functionality and altimeter more, but I never used them, and for the cost and weight savings, the Mini was the way to go! But I agree about the Zoleo using cell service- I wish Garmin would do the same when it's available (but then, I would just use my phone, so there's that).
Nice! Ya, every time I see an explorer+ I remember that I made the right decision (for me) with the mini. Super small and does exactly what I need it to! Thanks for your comment!
Glad it was helpful! I wasn't even planning to do the video when I did the research, but then I was like 'dang. I have all this info. I have to tell other people!' 😆
Yes! You are exactly right! I probably should have touched on that, so I'm glad you mentioned it. Since that wasn't something I was looking for it didn't really factor into my busying decision, but a good thing to be aware of because that's exactly what some people are looking for! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! Truly appreciated!
NICE! Ya, the mini is so much lighter than the explorer and other satellite messengers! and I don't think I've ever gotten lower than 75% battery on any trip with no charging. I just turn it off when I'm not using it. Thanks for watching!
I got the inreach explorer during REIs annual sale since it was $100 off and I wanted one anyways lol already clocked a few hundred miles on it. Loving it so far, the functionality, gps functions, texting. It's got it all. For me alltrails was really unreliable so I wanted an alternative in case my phone dies/breaks. I like that I can upload the GPX files for each trail/hike I do. Makes navigation easy and i also use the garmin instinct as a 3rd contingency to navigate. (Clearly I buy garmin products because they work and are reliable) I dont mind the subscription fee because I know when I hit that SOS button, someone is going to answer me if the need arises. And it's a peace of my mind for my wife knowing she can see my location real time, and text me to make sure I'm doing ok. I'm a very experienced hiker but as we all know things can go wrong and it's an ease of mind for us both. Also the ability to "pause" the subscription fee makes it worth it when it's the 110°+ months and when there's way to much snow to even get up the mountains!
Those annual sales are the best time to get this kind of gear! The maps on the explorer plus was definitely a feature I liked about it, and wish would fit in the mini package. But I think the weight was another big reason for me since I'll be doing some running with it as well. My backup maps has been paper map and I just barely ordered a new Garmin watch last night (I got the 6X pro) that will be another back up. Clearly we are both fans of Garmin products... 🤣 I've been using a cheaper Garmin watch for 3 years, but it doesn't have maps and the battery life leaves a lot to be desired, so time to upgrade! Could not agree more about the subscription fees. I have no problem paying them. I think a lot of people are surprised that there is a subscription after buying the device, but it's the same thing as a cell phone. Costs money to keep those satellites up there and running! $15 a month is WELL worth it for the peace of mind it gives my wife and knowing that if something goes really badly I can SOS to have someone come get me! Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@Matt_Maverick DUDE! I was really close on missing out on this. I wondered why it was so cheap last night! I ordered it at about 11pm my time. Not sure when prime day officially starts, but looks like I got the prime day price ($640). I've been looking at it for a while, but finally pulled the trigger last night when I got back from Southern Utah because my current watch died halfway through our hike of the Subway. Thanks for the heads up, because I DEFINITELY would have ordered another one and sent one back to save 30% of this massive purchase!
Most comprehensive yet succinct review of all devices currently on the market. Great job.Thank You! (Wish I watched this before wasting my time with 20 other half assed reviews.) New Subscriber.
THANK YOU! I'm glad it was helpful! I researched and thought about this decision forever and couldn't let all that time I spent go to waste, so tried to cram it all into a 15 minute video! 🤣 Thanks so much for watching and subbing! Truly appreciated!
Great video! I love the priorities! Excellent. I'm between the Gamin In-Reach Mini and/or the Spot X. I now have a Spot GEN3 and MAY just conintue with that.
Glad it was helpful! Ya, the mini 2 is even better! I won't be upgrading, but if I was buying one today it would be the mini2 (or the original mini if I could find on used!). Thanks for watching!
Thanks Thor! Hopefully the crazy amount of research I did before deciding can help someone else out! 🤣 really appreciate your comment! Thanks for watching!
I’m glad you found it helpful! Ya, that’s a tough call. Some people prefer the explorer plus because of the maps and easier to text from it. But for me the weight was a big deal. If you nail down what you decide to get; I would love to know what you choose and why. Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! If you pick up a plb I’d be interested to know what you chose and why. Everyone has different priorities and features they are looking for. Thanks again!
@@DoseofDirt it’s going to be an InReach Mini for trail running and gravel rides out of cell range. A mix of size, reliability and integration with my Forerunner. Thanks again for the great vid!
Thank you for putting up informative information and making me laugh in the process. Please please keep doing that, it fills my heart with joy from the good laughs!@@DoseofDirt
The inReach mini was surpassed this year by the mini 2, and then a week later by the Messenger. $100 cheaper, MUCH easier interface, and reverse charging of your phone, the Garmin inReach Messenger is a much better bit of gear.
This was very helpful . My daughter does night hikes which worries me to death and I’ve been looking for something for her to check in and have a emergency method of contact since she goes where there are no towers . I found this to be very helpful and I hope it gives me some peace at night when she’s hiking .
Hey Theresa! I'm glad it was helpful! My garmin was definitely originally purchased primarily for the peace of mind of my family members at home when I'm on crazy adventures, especially overnighters. The Garmin inReach mini is small, works great, has long batter, and easy to pair with your phone. I just used it to keep in touch with my wife while I was outside of cell range for 8 days on a 100 mile trip. It worked GREAT! Just remember that there is a subscription service (I use the cheapest, which is $15 a month), but it can be paused for months at a time if needed/wanted. Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for the great review. I just started researching these devices and came across your video. Your priorities were right in line with mine so you really helped me narrow it down to the one I was already leaning towards.......the Inreach mini. Thanks again for sharing your research and saving me some time!
Great review and research. To note as a Spotx user it has 240 hrs of battery life at 30 minutes tracking. I use at 10 minutes tracking and 30 minutes message fetch and it gives me about 6 full days, which is great for me.
Hey Carlos! Thanks man. Really appreciate that! The SpotX was the hardest to get info on so that is super helpful! I tend not to use tracking so only use it to send messages, so mine lasts forever as well! Thanks so much for watching!
Hey Carlos I just bought the spot x w/Bluetooth hasn't taken it out of the box yet as I keep reading about the network does it take a long time to send and receive messages thanks.
Rolland. Assuming you don't live in the poles, it is currently taking an average of 3 to 5 minutes to send and receive. Maybe more depending on open sky. Take into consideration it will always require more time to receive than to send. It can be sometimes as short as less than 1 minute.
@@CarlosRivera-rw9ho I live in Prescott AZ most of the time I'm out I'm about 15 miles away but poor cellular service is there a frs or gmsr walky talky/2way radio that works that far in a wooded area
One of the best comparison videos I've seen in ANY category, and especially in personal GPS satellite Communitcators. I understand there is a Mini2 now as well, which means that the original can likely be purchased at a discount, or you might pay for the upgrade if there is enough of an improvement. I think MOST of the functionality is the same between the two, but If I remember correctly, I think I saw on another review that the newer Inreach had a faster, newer chip, which probably also increased battery life. But they are really close in actual use, so if you are frugal get the older one at a discount, if not consider the speed and any other improvements of the 2nd generation. Databyter
Thank you! very kind of you! Yes, it could be a great time to get the original inreach with people upgrading! I know I'm still happy with mine, so don't see the need to upgrade. Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt I bought one last, week, I decided to go for the Mini 2 since I read somewhere that one of the nicer things was a better screen resolution and usually a better chip means better batt. life as well. I set it up on the Freedom Plan so I can turn off my subscription occasionally, but according to the checkout sums on the website, on TOP of the yearly subscription, there is a $35ish yearly charge. I thought that was rather slippery of them since I didn't really notice anything like that when comparing the plans. It's there in the fine print. It's only for the freedom plans, but that means at the lowest safety plan level you would have to suspend for two months just to break even on the yearly charge, additionally you are month to month on the freedom plan which costs more per month that a straight annual no suspend sub., So unless you plan to suspend for MOST of the year, you might was well consider the $12 bucks a year vs the $15 per year because the straight non freedom plan charges an activation fee, but after the first time, it's all sub cost, no yearly charge. . But regardless I still think for the low end user that just wants some added security and isn't going to be on SMS discussing the latest novels with buddies while out hiking, I have a very cheap solution after the initial investment. I feel like this device will probably be still relevant for the foreseeable decade, and so the maintenance costs going forward at the lowest levels are just what I need. I feel like I am going to bite the bullet and get off the freedom plan so the device will always work for me. Also the pairing with my Cellphone app seems to have a lot of extra tracking and mapping features which look interesting like waypoints and stuff, but with more detail than the device itself offers. Databyter
Good call to learn a bunch about them before you buy one. They are expensive! I love mine and have no regrets about buying it. I haven't had to use the SOS button and don't rely on that, but it makes a big difference keeping in touch with my family on long trips (just used it on an 8 day trip with no cell service).
Wish I found your video sooner. I bought a Spot X + subscription today and I'm already disappointed with the tracking performance. I find it very bulky too, with a keyboard too small for my fingers. The InReach Mini was probably a better choice. I watched all the wrong videos...
Ah dang! I'm sorry to hear that! It's tough trying to sift through videos from people who represent the company and those that don't. Hopefully you're able to get used to it and it ends up working alright for you. if not, you could look into selling it used. Might cost you a bit, but then you could get the unit you want. Or if you bought it from REI they'll take it back, I think.
Ya those are some good features! If being a stand alone unit wasn’t such a high priority for me then I probably would have considered it more heavily. Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks for this nice comparison. Just one little clarification: as far as I understand, the text of the unlimited so-called 'check in messages' cannot be personalised in Garmin devices. At least not in the cheapest plan. It can be changed for the 'preset messages', however these have a cost of 0,10 Euros each.
I reached the same conclusion and bought the Mini. Thanks for confirming my assumptions and rationale for my decision! Btw, lose the sound effects - drove my wife nuts while I was watching! :)
Thanks, Roy! Really appreciate you watching and I'm glad you found it helpful! I'll lower the sound effects so you don't get caught next time! 🤣 Thanks again!
Thanks, Mark! I really appreciate that! I JUST saw a video that Garmin is launching an inReach Mini 2 sometime in the near future (shared the video in a post, but it's from HikingGuy.com's channel). You may be able to find the original mini on sale, or hold out for the mini 2! Thought I should let you know!
I chose the Explorer plus. The mini is a great option though. Good video - thanks. It’s funny because it does sound like you are setting up priorities to justify your decision. I think that Bluetoothing to your phone with the mini is quite necessary. Sending custom message back and forth is the way to go unless you have mobile phone coverage. Just my thoughts
Hey Trevor! I know a lot of people love the Explorer+ for the navigation and the custom messaging, but those just aren't features I needed. I just don't send custom messages. I have sent 2 to test sending it without pairing my phone (which was a pain... 😆) and one to test the pairing, which was fine. But that's the only time I've ever done it. Thanks for watching!
Hey Jon! That’s great to hear! Thanks so much for watching! Would be interested to know what you end up getting and why. Nice that there are so many options so you can get what works for your needs. Thanks again for watching!
@@DoseofDirt going with the INreach Mini. Size and flexibility along with the Garmin name goes along way. Thanks! $299 cant find tho right now prices are $350
@@jondressel6594 that is awesome! I am jealous you are hitting up the JM wilderness! That’s on my list of places to go for sure! Well, I’ll tell you I still would have gone with the mini at $350! Well worth it, especially for solo trips! Would love to hear about the trip when you get back!
I have the Garmin inReach mini, and am quite happy with it. I previously used a spot, until they stopped supporting that model of theirs, and it was okish, but slightly fragile, bits of plastic would come off if dropped even on pine needles (but it did keep working). I assume that newer models are better, but I do wonder if that large screen is a vulnerability if dropped. I too use a different device for recording the GPS track and heart rate of my activities, but I also use the every ten minute track feature of my mini, so that those at home have reassurance (they can see the track online, as I hike or bike), and know my last known point.
Very nice review, thank you! I purchased the the Garmin InReach (ver. 1) a year ago and am happy so far. The only think which is really annoying with Garmin ist that you cannot just use the position signal from their devices for other apps than their own on your phone. For instance, I use Locus Maps Pro a lot on my android cellular and it'd be so nice to couple the Garmin InReach with this app. I know, that there are several work arounds described in the internet. However, none of them worked ... including assistance apps. So, if you have a solution for this I would be happy to know.
Hahaha great bloopers! Yeah I've seen a couple other backpackers who are now affiliates with Zoleo and I'm like, 'why?' It definitely seems like the clear loser here, even though Spot is on a different network. I ended up with the inreach mini as well and got it on sale at REI for $250. They clearly have the best month to month plans and it's the lightest unit. The second place runner up for me was the Bivy Stick but again, it didn't have the stand alone feature. They did have the next best option when it came to monthly plans however. Great video! Really enjoyed watching!
Thanks, man! Ya, the bloopers were too good not to share... 🤣 Ya, I've seen a lot of Zoleo units floating around lately, but I just can't get on board with it. It may work for some people, but not for what I want. And the fact that even a check in message uses one of your plan messages just seems crazy. I am loving my inReach mini so far. Small, easy to use, inexpensive initially and monthly! Thanks so much for watching! Really appreciate your comments!
@@DoseofDirt Totally agree! And I think you can use 1/10 messages you get with the inreach flex plan for a weather report. def best bang for the buck! keep up the great work!
Hey Sandra! I think at the time I was using a Garmin Vivoactive 3, but I've since purchased a Garmin Fenix 6x Pro. It has a much longer battery life, which I needed for my longer hikes, trail runs, and backpacking trips. It is definitely not cheap (around $500, I think) but works really well for me. A more budget friendly option that still has excellent batter life is the Garmin Instinct. One channel I really like that does a lot of reviews on GPS watches and other trail tech is 'Chase the Summit' He is a trail runner, but the watches are the same for hikers and backpackers. He has a lot of excellent videos and comparisons!
I'm close to pulling the trigger on one of these after seeing the story about "Otter" dyeing on the CDT. ...he died because he didn't have an sos beacon. Your stated number one priority (and that of most people) is whats wrong with all of these devices. Its what 100% of the marketing is based on...fear. They have instilled in you that the normal state of being is to be in fear, that things are bad unless you communicate they're good. To let the loved ones know that everything is NOT normal - it's just fine. My wife knows where I am, she has a map, she knows where I'll be from night to night (appx) she knows when I'll come back and won't worry about it until theres actually something to worry about. The only reason to have one of these things is to save your life. You are in fact no safer at all because you grunted a few words into a radio - them knowing exactly where you are on a map makes you no safer. They're not going to come 500 miles and save you. I'd like to find a device that sends my location and communicates with emergency services. That communicates with the loved ones that I may be a day later than planned....a premade text. Beyond that everything else is people and there phones they can't do without.
I personally carry a PLB, not a sat messenger. I think they're superior in a real emergency. But if I were going to get a sat messenger, I'd go with InReach and avoid Spot, due to reliability issues related to their messenger and satellite network.
Thanks Edward! I really appreciate that! If you pick one up (or have already) I’d love to know which one you go with and why! Thanks so much for watching!
I'm certainly going to look into networks as your review has led me to believe that if network options were the same the spot x may have been a better contender.
Yes, that was definitely a factor. But I think even if the networks had been equal, I still would have taken the Garmin Mini because of the size and weight. Since I take it trail running the weight makes a big difference. I don't use it to send custom messages (I have a few times just to see how hard it is, but there is never a need. And doing it from my phone is super easy if needed), and the battery life has been great as well. So I am still super happy with my decision! Thanks so much for watching! Would be interested to know what you decide and why since we all make different decisions to suit our different needs.
InReach transmits with 4x the wattage of Spot, so your messages are more likely to get out with the Garmin. The Garmin sat network is also superior in my opinion. The USDA tested Spot under tree canopy and it was unreliable.
Hey! Thanks for commenting! Where are you getting the 50 hours from and what tracking interval is that based on? Would be interested to know. Or maybe that's based on personal experience? I just checked the Garmin website again and they indicated 90 hours of battery life at 10 minute tracking. I realize this is an "up to" number, which means it would likely be less than that in less than ideal conditions. For me, I don't use it for tracking so I don't worry about the continuous battery life in that way. I keep it on but then just send a check in message a few times a day. I'll usually turn it off at night as well. When I use it like that I've come home from 3-4 day trips with 85% batter life still, so I know the battery life is more than sufficient for what I need. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
Hey no worries! Not worried about looking like I messed up, just wanted to make sure I didn't mess it up. There were so many numbers flying around I could have easily had a mistake! That is really weird that Amazon and REI both say 50 hours... The hard thing is it probably depends so much on what the conditions are. I would think that achieving 90 hours of batter life at 10 minute tracking wouldn't be likely since we almost never hike in perfect conditions! 🤣 I honestly appreciate you pointing out something that could have been wrong because I would hate for a bunch of people to see it and I can't correct it! Really appreciate it!
Very well put together, but please drop the sound effects, they just make the video appear more amateurish. A subtle background music would work much better.
Thanks for the feedback! You're not the only one to say that... I have since gotten away from a lot of sound effects and more background music. 😆 Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt Ah, sorry, this was the first video that I've watched on your channel and I didn't realized you've made some changes. Still a very good comparison though, really helped me out!
Excellent review video! Thanks. Question re satellite coverage -- does a plan cover wherever one goes on the planet regardless of one's home base, or do you need to identify location/region? E.g. if I live in Canada and I'm hiking on a different continent.... Thanks.
Can you explain why the iridium network is better than the one that Spot uses? I have had a spot for years and am thinking about upgrading, but your comment makes me hesitate. I am a motorcyclist, doing lots of long distance stuff in the US and Europe. Please advise. Thanks for the video, very well done.
InReach uses Iridium which is generally a newer satellite network than the network Spot uses. The Spot network uses a lot of satellites that frankly are near the end of their lives, and the sat provider has had financial problems. They say the network will be upgraded with new sats, but we'll see. The device itself is an issue too. InReach transmits with 4x the wattage of Spot, so your messages are more likely to get out with the Garmin. The USDA tested Spot under tree canopy and it was unreliable in those conditions. If you want a true emergency beacon and don't need 2-way messaging, go with a PLB, not a sat messenger.
Great video. It's been hard deciding as I'm sure you know I did get the spot x but the network make me want to get the inreach mini 2. What's the difference in networks send failures? Thanks for a great video and I gave you a sub brother
Hey Rolland! I don't have any data for the difference in send failures. But I can tell you that I've only ever had my Garmin take a long time to send once when I was deep in a slot canyon in Utah. It sent eventually while we were moving, but it took 30 minutes or so. Other than that, it seems to always sent within a few minutes as long as I have a clear view of the sky. Just got back from an 8 day trip with no cell service so I used my inreach mini a ton to text my wife and keep in touch. It was perfect!
Garmin InReach Mini, hands down winner! Use it for hiking and biking! Provides my wife with comfortable security that her crazy husband has not crashed on his beloved gravel bike!! Well at least that he survived the crash!! 😂
Hey Brady! I have looked into the Mini 2. I think if you're buying one now, the 2 is probably the way to go. But not worth upgrading to me. And it may also be a good time to get an original mini on discount (or used...). Thanks for watching!
I bought an inreach mini in 2018. It worked ok until a couple of months ago now the internal battery will not charge up and there is no backup or service from Garmin and you cannot buy new batteries. The only answer from Garmin is that I need to buy a new device. So I'm going to buy a Spot X.
DANG! That's a major bummer. I know others who have had their inreach for a long long time, so that's terrible yours is having issues. Wish Garmin would do something about it. Would love to know what you think of your Spot X after using a Garmin for so long!
Actually, I found I could buy a new battery on Alliexpress. Initially the battery from AliExpress didn't work very well. But, I found a piece of reconditioning software had popped up on Garmin website which fixed up the problem. So I am using the AliExpress battery and it is all working fine
Hey Lout! I think Zoleo may have come up with quite a few additional features since this video came out. I may need to try to do an updated video. If you can shed some light on the additional features here in the comments, it would be greatly appreciated! For me weight and full functionality without a cell phone were big time factors, so the mini is still the way to go for me. Thanks for watching!
Question I have is, assuming sat phones work during power outages to communicate with other sat phones, will the sat phone SERVICE plan still work in a power outage. For instance, how will the billing be accomplished and will phones be able to access the network and accounts if grid fails.
I have a Garmin Fenix 6x Pro and I LOVE it. The batter lasts forever and it is super easy to use. There is a new version that is now touch screen, but I find I mess things up with the touch screen so prefer just the buttons. I haven't tried the inreach mini 2 yet, but maybe I'll find one on sale so I can compare them. I think it does have a couple new features which would be nice, but so far the original mini has been just fine. I just got back from an 8 day trip where I used it a lot and it worked perfectly!
I'm a little bit puzzled about the advantage of the Zoleo using a cell signal, since you have to use your cell phone to compose or read texts anyway. Isn't it just as easy for you to look at the phone, see that you have signal, and then send a regular text?
Curious as to what you heard on Globalstar that waved you off of it. Unreliable? It seems like if not for that one thing, you'd have been holding a Spot X in this video.
Ya, that was a big factor for me. I read/watched some side-by-side comparisons and it seemed like the Garmin typically sent faster and/or more reliably. It's interesting because the Iridium has more satellites and they are closer to the earth, so I wonder if that impacts the coverage and reliability (a lot of factors here). The size and weight were also big factors. I like that the inReach Mini is less than 100 grams but still offers really good battery life. Maybe I was also drawn to the simplicity of the inReach mini? I guess hard to pin down ALL the reasons why in a 15 minute video. Do you have one or have you been looking? Would be interested to know what you have or are looking at getting . So much about personal preference! I definitely don't think there is one "best" PLB for everyone! Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt We're looking. This surprises some people, but we only started hiking regularly 8 or 9 months ago. We saw it as a good way to combat COVID cabin fever, and get out. We also thought it would be cheap, and it was at first, when we were only going out a couple miles at a time. Now on an 8 mile trek, I find myself hauling 15+ pounds of just water. Thankfully I've lost quite a bit of weight, and the side effect seems to be that having a 20-30 pound pack doesn't seem to bother me anywhere near as much as it "should" based on the other youtubers I'm watching, but I know a water system is in our future as we continue to progress. Right now, we're sticking to trails where we are quite unlikely to go more than 15 or 20 minutes without coming across someone if we're stopped (unless we're at extreme ends of the day) and someone always knows where we're at, but I also know that eventually, as we progress, we're going to need a PLB. This is going to be happening sooner rather than later. The list goes on quite a ways actually, I won't bore you with it, I'm sure you know what's on it anyway. Our biggest challenge has been to source gear that is both reliable AND reasonably priced. We're not pros, we don't need the best of the best gear meant to survive a trip to mars. Functional and reliable are the main criteria. As an example, my 40L backpack is a VenturePal I paid $22 for on Amazon. Those Ospreys you use look great, amazing in fact, but our gear budget requires a bit of frugality at this stage. To bring this back to the point, that's why I've been eyeballing the Spot X for the PLB. The Zoleo was already eliminated for lack of functionality, and that they seem to make up for a more inexpensive unit with a more expensive and limited subscription plan. The Spot X is now also $200, but I'm questioning the reliability box after your review here. All things being equal, $150 is $150... that'll cover a water filtration system and a couple other small items on my list. I'm not an ultralight enthusiast, so 50 grams doesn't bother me, and the battery life on all the units far exceeds the time we'll be going without access to a plug. Being able to send a message if we're in a tough spot though, that's kind of important.
@@northeastfamilyadventures9186 that is awesome! I totally here you in trying to find gear that works well for your needs and doesn’t break the bank! It’s interesting that we all find different things that well “splurge” on but others where we are willing to pay a little more. For me, I’ve found that used is the way to go for packs. I got two of my ospreys used for MUCH cheaper than new. I actually wonder if there will be some used PLBs coming up from people who bought them and then decided I’d isn’t worth the monthly plan. For the SpotX, I don’t think the network was the final straw, if it was really a combination of things. You should check out the review that MyLifeOutdoors did on the SpotX. If I remember right from the video, he’s been using spot devices for years and really likes them. He can do that device justice since he has been using it for so long. I personally know a few adventurers who also have the SpotX and love it. So I don’t think it’s a bad choice. Just wasn’t the right choice for me. Agreed that Zoleo (and similar devices like somewear and bivystick) are out of the running for lack of functionality. But check out that other review and let me know what you think!
@@DoseofDirt Ahh, an influencer that got the gear for free. Seems like an up front and honest review, but I always hesitate taking something too seriously when someone is reviewing a piece of gear they didn't actually spend their own money on. It's good info, so thanks for the link. At the back of my mind, I'm thinking, "Would Jeff have gone out and spent $350 on the InReach mini if someone spotted him a free SpotX?" I'm pretty sure I'd try very hard to make do with the free SpotX as long as it was "Good enough" which is about the vibe I got by the end of that video. This, of course, brings me to the conclusion that your choice on the InReach Mini was probably the correct one.
Hey! Thank you! That is awesome! Glad you enjoyed the video! Would love to know what other stuff you'd like to see! Thanks so much for watching and subbing!! 👊🏻
Great review. Unfortunately I'll no longer be using any Garmin products. Their customer service is the worst I've ever encountered. They are all about 💰 💰 💰 and could care less about customers. Makes it easy for me to throw away my inreach mini and start the search for something else for my back country saftey.
Ah dang. That sucks. I haven't had to deal with their customer service. But I bet you can sell that inreach used for a pretty good price! I'd be interested in what device you go with and how you think it compares to the inreach mini!
InReach mini for the win. I camp and drive a Jeep off-road, and it's been the best for "out of cell range" communication. My preset messages are simple; Hitting the highway (I'm leaving for a trip, or heading back home), This is my campsite (where I am for the night(s), Going to explore (up in the morning and seeing what's around for the day). Why look at a small Explorer screen when you can bluetooth pair the mini to a "phablet" phone and get a larger map display? Ultimately, I use Gaia now for navigation and the Garmin inReach mini solely as a communication device. Each do their jobs very well, and I hope this comment helps others dial in their needs as they shop for communication/mapping needs. Peace! Pete - KI7LIL (HAM radio callsign, and should also be considered as a communication source!)
Thanks, Peter! Sounds like we use the inReach basically the same. I use it solely for communication and SOS if ever needed. Love using my large phone for navigation. the inReach Explorer+ just seems like it would feel clunky for navigation since the phone is just so easy. that's awesome that you use a HAM radio! I've wanted to get into that, but just haven't made the time. Seems like it would be a really good skill to have! Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a thoughtful and helpful comment!
@@DoseofDirt I've enjoyed the HAM hobby. I studied for three weeks using a free online study course and passed the test my first try. Set aside some time and see how you do... if you already have an interest then you'll do fine. Take care, and I'm going to check out your other videos to watch.
@@peterkunka2694 That's awesome! I'm definitely going to look into that! Another thing I like to do is volunteer at aid station for ultramarathons. They often have need for HAM radio operators since there are check in stations way outside of cell range! Would be another use for it!
@@DoseofDirt Yessir, I’ve listened to coordinated events by HAM’s here in the Phoenix area many times before. There is a lot one can do with HAM radio: Skywarn (folks reporting weather systems in their area), APRS (Automated Packet Reporting System), SOTA (Summits On The Air - people hike mountain peaks and make calls for contacts in a contest), ISS (the International Space Station has a HAM radio - track it’s orbit and listen for it/attempt to contact it), AutoPatch (some repeaters have this function to use your HAM radio as a telephone to make calls), ARES (Amateur Radio Emergency Service), and a host of other features and dedicated Nets that have full schedules. Then, there’s the digital side… which allows for communication globally using the internet. I prefer D-Star over Fusion or DMR, and have made contacts as far away as 8,000 miles to Indonesia. Very cool hobby that has a lot to offer to a variety of interests. I don’t want to hog your comment section (maybe I have already…), but if you’d like to talk HAM radio some more, or have other questions about how I use the radio and/or Garmin InReach mini, then email me at KI7LIL@icloud.com and it’d be great to share more in email. Cheers! Pete
Dude, this is awesome! Crazy that you've contacted people in INDONESIA! I am definitely going to keep your email on file for when I finally get into HAM. Seriously been thinking about it for several years! Thanks so much for all the info! This is fantastic!
Thank you for the video. I was thinking of Inreach mini from REI but I'm reading bad reviews! Is your mini with the update still working good for You????
Hey Renea! Thanks for your comment! So far mine has still been working great. I’ll admit that I don’t use it for tracking (which I think may have been one of the issues Garmin was trying to fix). I use it to send preset messages and occasionally custom messages, as well as ping my location to my wife and check weather. So far all of that has been working perfectly with no issues! And great thing about getting it from REI is that if you don’t like it you can return it! I’d love to know what you decide. Thanks so much for watching!
Hey Van! Dang, that stinks that the SPOT gave up the ghost! I'm still loving my inReach Mini even a year later! Super small and light, lowest plan is just $15 a month and gives me everything I need, I've always had a signal, and custom messages are super easy with the app! For me, it's perfect! Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt That's great. I am interested now in the Garmin mini 2. I see their cheapest plan has a small extra charge for pings and am wondering how many ping charges I would get as I'm not sure what exactly that is for. Do you know? Main thing, like you, is just to be able to be rescued.
@@vanmore5124 Hey Van, this is a feature I haven't used a ton because it isn't useful to me, but I know other people love it. The pings mean location pings when you are in tracking mode. So you can set your inreach to track your location and specified intervals for your own personal tracking purposes, or to update those at home with your location. It is a cool feature, but I use my Garmin watch to track my hike personally. And for my wife I just let her know my route ahead of time and my estimated time of completion. Then my preset messages are structured to tell her whether I'm on track or a little behind. But a few of my buddies turn the tracking on every time. so really comes down to personal preference. Hope that helps!
Hey! Thanks, man! Truly appreciated! After all the time I spent making my decision, I figured I should probably share it! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
I chose the Somewear. My main concern is the SOS option. The texting is a nice option but not my #1 priority. Plus the cheapest plan is $100.00/year. That being said the annual cost of any of the plans for any of the devices is a bargain if you need to hit that SOS button.
Hey Kevin! Thanks for sharing what you decided to go with. I think a lot of these devices of updated plans and functionality, so I'd like to look into them again and do another comparison. So far I'm super happy with my inreach mini, but I'm glad that are lots of options so everyone can get something that works for them! Thanks for your comment!
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I have the Zoleo and so far, it’s been working great. They’ve made some updates in the past year with Location share + that make it competitive with the inreach: check ins including your location are now unlimited and you can share a breadcrumb trail that updates at a specified interval with your check in contacts similar to the inreach mini.
Also, I heard that new users can no longer customize the unlimited presets on the Garmin inreach which used to be a major advantage. I still think it’s beneficial that the Garmin has full functionality as a standalone device, but for me, the mentioned changes have tipped the scales in Zoleo’s favor.
One important cost saving feature of Garmin's products is the ability to suspend service when not in use. I tend to go on 3-4 major trips per year but far fewer smaller hikes. This means I just suspend service in between hikes which saves me 6-7 monthly payments per year. I've used the Garmin & this 'suspend' option over the past 4-5 years which has saved me the cost of a new Garmin Mini (as I'm about to change from the Explorer+) !
Excellent point! I tent to keep mine on all the time since I'm somewhere basically everyone month (even if just for the day). But YES, this is something I wish I had mentioned in my video, so thanks for brining it up here!
Hope you enjoy the mini! I relied on mine immensely over the last 8 days when I was on a 100 mile backpacking trip in the Uinta mountains. Wonderfully easy to keep in touch with my wife even while I was deep in the mountains out of cell range.
Thanks for your comment!
This is the main reason to go with in-reach as far as I can see, who is out in the field 365 a year??
How does that affect the yearly cost, think its~37/ year. You still owe that no matter what correct? Wish garmin was a little more easy to understand the pricing
How long/ easy is it to un-suspend?
You can suspend the Zoleo as well
Tracking - I don’t use it so much for me, but so my family can keep track of me. It gives my wife HUGE peace of mind to be able to watch my hiking progress on a map, and to see, almost real-time, that I am actually still moving. I don’t think she would be near as supportive of my hiking habits if I didn’t have my inReach!
I definitely agree that the peace of mind for loved ones at home is a massive benefit. That is honestly probably THE reason I bought the Garmin. The SOS button is nice I suppose, but I would have bought it even without the SOS button.
Thanks for watching!
I’ve field tested the Zoleo and it worked great. I don’t like to spend a lot of time communicating while out on my back country hikes. I’ve been out in slot canyons and deep in forests and had no troubles whatsoever. What I liked about the Zoleo was it was there then I needed it. I never had a problem with someone getting a text. Using the Zoleo app I was able to write a novel. I recommend the Zoleo based on my personal experience.
That's awesome! Ya, for me I like the Garmin just because it can be a stand alone with full functionality, but that's probably just an irrational fear that my phone will die and I'll need the full functionality for something. But I know a lot of backpackers who dig the zoleo. Makes me glad there are lots of options so we can all get something that works for us!
Thanks for watching!
Zoleo isn't standalone, becomes a paperweight if phone dies or breaks. No good
@@29erallday SOS button and Check in Button can be used standalone on the ZOLEO.
@@29erallday I believe the SOS and checkin function (I'm okay) work independent of any phone/app. Phone app just allows you to send customised messages.
I really appreciate how thorough you are so I can see where these fit with my own priorities. Thanks.
Thanks, Sarah! I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks for your comment!
Great video! Just pulled the trigger on the Garmin inReach mini.
Now my Wife can find my remains if she chooses to.
"if she chooses to" 🤣🤣🤣
Ya, really the main reason I bought it is so I can let my wife know things are going alright. She says she has planned my funeral countless times while I'm out on long trips because she has no idea how I'm doing. All the planning has be worried... 😆
But she worries way less now since I can check in often.
Thanks so much for watching and I'm glad you found it helpful!
UA-cam is telling me you put another comment here but I can’t see it. Dang UA-cam gremlins. But the preview shows me the first line. I also enjoy strawberry pop tarts! I could see anything you comment after that. 🤣
Thanks for the review!
In fact, Zoleo has one pre-set unlimited location sharing and "I am okay" text for an additional $6.00 USD / month for the cheapest and the mid plan.
For the most expensive plan, everything is unlimited by default.
But it would still take the last place in your first priority anyway due to one customizable pre-set text only.
Hey Iegor! Thanks for adding some clarity! Ya, I don't think it would have changed my final decision at all, but your comment will be helpful to others trying to decide which way to go! Thanks for adding to the discussion!
Your videos are well produced, in depth and super informative! Hope your channel grows and more people see it!
Thanks, Marco! Really appreciate that! Figured I had to do something with all that research I did before I bought my inReach mini! 🤣 thanks so much for watching!!
Thanks for the clear listing of your thought process. I'm a scuba diver and researching the Garmin Mini because it also has a optional dive case.
YES! The dive case is a sweet option! Scuba sounds so cool. I keep saying I need to take classes and get certified, but it's just one of those things I Never get done.
Hope you find the right device that works for you!
Just keep in mind, GPS signals DO NOT WORK UNDERWATER.
It’s only going to work as a “location” device on the surface.
But to have it with you as a diver would be good insurance.
Thank you, very in depth.. I'll be buying both Garmins.. explorer mounted to my truck for homebase and mini on my go-bag. Cheers
Nice! An explorer in the truck at all times would be awesome! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment. Truly appreciated!
I like the way you list your priorities. I am a sailor. My main priority is man overboard. Anywhere on The Great Lakes you can always be in contact with the coast guard via VHF radio. I need to list the priorities that are important to me.
Thanks Stan! Ya, different features are important to different people so the “right” gear will be different. Man, sailing sounds awesome! Thanks so much for watching!
I chose the Bivy Stick. Although more expensive up front it has no hook fees, no annual fees, has a dedicated number apposed to a shared type of network and can track and communicate with other Bivy Sticks. The basic plan is the cheapest and has unlimited check in. It also does not need the extra membership fee for location sharing. On the off season I can deactivate it at no extra fees and save more money not paying the monthly plan. It is very compact and light weight and with the built in 1/4 thread it can be mounted to any GoPro type mounts. I have 6 months of continues use now and I am very satisfied with it. The Mini was a close second choice for me, Zoleo I felt didn't stack up and the extra operating cost is not attractive!
Thank you for sharing your insight, I feel many will benefit from it. Take care be safe✌️
Thanks for your comment! Sounds like Bivy could have been a contender if the 'stand alone unit' thing weren't a deal breaker for me because everything else sounds awesome! Unlimited check-in is definitely a must for me as well as being able to deactivate during the off season. I like the fact that it can work on GoPro mounts as well. Agreed that the Zoleo just doesn't seem like a good choice (at least for me).
Thanks for watching and even more for sharing your thoughts!
@@DoseofDirt For sure using a phone app is not for everyone! And I must add that from experience if you forget to disable Bluetooth once done, your phone's battery will run dry quickly having Bluetooth running!
thanks again✌
I think the bivy has the same remote only features as the zoleo. (Sos and checkin without phone).
@@kuhndj67 yes that is correct. To communicate back and forth with someone you need bluetooth connection with your smart phone.
I'm sold on the Bivy Stick too. I don't have one yet, but that will be my choice when I do get a satellite communicator. It will be mostly for using on my sailboat when I don't have cell service. Even if I fall overboard without my phone, with the Bivy Stick I can send an SOS message. The cost of the unit and the plan is lower than the others. Battery life is not a problem since I have 420 watts of solar power and a 200 amp hour lithium iron phosphate battery.
I thought that your review of the 4 products was very fair & well balanced. Al thought I figured that you were going for the Mini since you were waving it around, you chose it because of the requirements that you needed. Thanks for the great review!
Thanks, Sam! I tried to give all the devices a fair shake and in the end the mini one out! I've had it for over a year now and no regrets whatsoever!
Thanks so much for watching and for your comment!
For me it would be the garmin explorer+, for the much better battery life, and for the ability to use it as a fully functioning GPS (and not need a phone or watch which are another point of failure). Though I still bring a backup in the form of a map in a map bag, a protractor, and a good compass.
I think you make a good point and argument for the Explorer plus. I guess my phone has just become such regular part of my every day ferry that I don’t even think about it. So far I like having my maps and messenger on separate devices, but everyone has different preferences.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! Always like to know what gear others choose and why, because I don’t think there is where one “right” piece of gear for everyone.
What is a hidden factor in the Garmin Mini vs. Explorer+ comparison is that when they are comparing the battery life, they are JUST comparing tracking. When you start USING the additional features of the Explorer+, your battery life starts falling quickly in line with (or even less than, if you are frequently using the map/backlight) the Mini. I did a 9 day hike where I was hiking with a fellow who had an Explorer+ - he ended up charging his a couple more times than I had to charge my Mini over the same time/distance.
@@justjonoutdoors thank you for your commentary solidified my decision for the mini.
👍 Thanks. Good info. I’m a solo hiker planning a extended backcountry trip and basically only need a SOS button. The Mini it is. I’m a old fart I still use paper maps and a compass.
If you just need an SOS button, I think the mini is the way to go! Sounds like an awesome trip! Nothing like being out in the back country solo! I think more people need to be comfortable with a paper map and compass! Those things never run out of battery! 🤣🤣🤣
I'm an old fart too. I love and use paper maps all the time.
Thanks for your video discovery some important differences in satellite communicators I would take issue with one thing you said, however, you refer to these as personal locator beacon’s these are not personal locator beacon’s, and the true sense of the word. These are satellite communicators, and there are some very important distinctions. Personal locator beacon‘s were built specifically for search and rescue. They use three different satellite constellations each constellation is comprised of numerous satellites, therefore, offering you the best coverage throughout the world. Also personal locator beacons have a much higher level of power they generally output 5 W of power, most of the satellite, communicators output between one and 1.6 W disc can become crucial if you were stranded deep in a Canyon or under a tree canopy that is snow-covered a signal that can’t get out is no good. Also personal locator beacon’s have a built-in battery certified to last 5 to 7 years, so there is no forgetting to recharge the battery again this is a huge advantage. Finally most governments of the world subscribe to the search and rescue plan that supported by personal locator vegans we put down all political differences, and all that is put aside in order to save lives. So, in my opinion, the best option is to have both devices because one of the limiting factors of a personal locator beacon is to wake communication that is not offered in most personal locator beacon‘s, but what is offered is that assurance that rescue and help is on the way if I had to choose one which I originally did, I went with a personal locator beacon. The one I use is made by the brand a CR. I’m about ready to invest in a satellite communicator now to round out my search and rescue and disaster coverage. this video was helpful to me and trying to assess which satellite communicator to get one final note I have heard that there have been deaths that have occurred because spot did not send a rescue when the SOS feature was activated they determined that it was not a “real“ emergency, and because of that people died. That cannot happen with a personal locator beacon. Once those are activated help will be sent. there’s just a big difference in the two that the satellite communicators are all run on private satellite networks where the personal locator beacons are all government controlled satellites and again purposely built for search and rescue from the ground up the whole system, the satellite constellation to the ground station, and the hardware everything was built with life-saving in mind. Thanks again.
Great review man! I'm in the market for one of these devices. I have decided to get the Garmin Inreach Explorer plus. I feel a stand alone device that I can download topo maps would work better for me:)
Thank you for your comment! I should have mentioned the topo maps, because that was one thing that was making me lean towards the Explorer+. But I typically use my phone for navigation so decided to keep my PLB for just that. But the same one doesn't work for everyone, so it's cool to know what you decided on and why! Thanks so much for watching!
Really helpful analysis! You hit all of my important priorities in a clear, concise and humorous fashion. Much appreciated. I had already purchased the Garmin Mini and was doing the in-depth research… well…after the fact. I know… backwards. But I had a pretty good idea what I wanted. Our priorities lined up well, so your review was spot-on. Hmmmm. Bad pun, maybe. At any rate, you are good! The video is not only full of quality info, but has a professional, classy feel. Top notch! Thanks for your work. The bloopers show you really are human, like the rest of us. :) Happy trails!
haha! Thanks, Sue! Super appreciated! I'm glad the video was helpful for you! I just got back from an 8 day backpacking trip and used the inreach mini A LOT to keep in touch with home. Custom text messages, location pings, and standard checkins were all super easy (and light!) with the inreach mini! Hope you like yours!
I, too, settled on the Mini. I first got the Explorer+, thinking I would use the map functionality and altimeter more, but I never used them, and for the cost and weight savings, the Mini was the way to go! But I agree about the Zoleo using cell service- I wish Garmin would do the same when it's available (but then, I would just use my phone, so there's that).
Nice! Ya, every time I see an explorer+ I remember that I made the right decision (for me) with the mini. Super small and does exactly what I need it to!
Thanks for your comment!
Excellent, excellent, EXCELLENT review. Exactly the type of research I would have done, but you saved me the trouble. Bravo
Glad it was helpful! I wasn't even planning to do the video when I did the research, but then I was like 'dang. I have all this info. I have to tell other people!' 😆
i didnt know about the zoleo plan from all the videos i’ve seen thank you for that
Something to consider with the Explorer plus. It is also a fully functioning GPS unit as well as a satellite communicator. Hence the cost.
Yes! You are exactly right! I probably should have touched on that, so I'm glad you mentioned it. Since that wasn't something I was looking for it didn't really factor into my busying decision, but a good thing to be aware of because that's exactly what some people are looking for! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment! Truly appreciated!
The Garmin is very cool. I want one. I love my Fenix 6X
Yes, Garmin makes good stuff! Just ordered a 6x pro since it was time for a watch upgrade! Thanks so much for watching!!
💯 I just sold my Garmin Explorer plus on ebay because I got tired of the extra weight and got an inReach Mini to replace it.
NICE! Ya, the mini is so much lighter than the explorer and other satellite messengers! and I don't think I've ever gotten lower than 75% battery on any trip with no charging. I just turn it off when I'm not using it. Thanks for watching!
I got the inreach explorer during REIs annual sale since it was $100 off and I wanted one anyways lol already clocked a few hundred miles on it. Loving it so far, the functionality, gps functions, texting. It's got it all. For me alltrails was really unreliable so I wanted an alternative in case my phone dies/breaks. I like that I can upload the GPX files for each trail/hike I do. Makes navigation easy and i also use the garmin instinct as a 3rd contingency to navigate. (Clearly I buy garmin products because they work and are reliable)
I dont mind the subscription fee because I know when I hit that SOS button, someone is going to answer me if the need arises. And it's a peace of my mind for my wife knowing she can see my location real time, and text me to make sure I'm doing ok. I'm a very experienced hiker but as we all know things can go wrong and it's an ease of mind for us both. Also the ability to "pause" the subscription fee makes it worth it when it's the 110°+ months and when there's way to much snow to even get up the mountains!
Those annual sales are the best time to get this kind of gear! The maps on the explorer plus was definitely a feature I liked about it, and wish would fit in the mini package. But I think the weight was another big reason for me since I'll be doing some running with it as well.
My backup maps has been paper map and I just barely ordered a new Garmin watch last night (I got the 6X pro) that will be another back up. Clearly we are both fans of Garmin products... 🤣 I've been using a cheaper Garmin watch for 3 years, but it doesn't have maps and the battery life leaves a lot to be desired, so time to upgrade!
Could not agree more about the subscription fees. I have no problem paying them. I think a lot of people are surprised that there is a subscription after buying the device, but it's the same thing as a cell phone. Costs money to keep those satellites up there and running! $15 a month is WELL worth it for the peace of mind it gives my wife and knowing that if something goes really badly I can SOS to have someone come get me!
Thanks so much for watching and sharing your thoughts!
@@DoseofDirt take your watch back lol the garmin watches are 30% off for prime day deals!!
@@Matt_Maverick DUDE! I was really close on missing out on this. I wondered why it was so cheap last night! I ordered it at about 11pm my time. Not sure when prime day officially starts, but looks like I got the prime day price ($640). I've been looking at it for a while, but finally pulled the trigger last night when I got back from Southern Utah because my current watch died halfway through our hike of the Subway. Thanks for the heads up, because I DEFINITELY would have ordered another one and sent one back to save 30% of this massive purchase!
Most comprehensive yet succinct review of all devices currently on the market. Great job.Thank You! (Wish I watched this before wasting my time with 20 other half assed reviews.) New Subscriber.
THANK YOU! I'm glad it was helpful! I researched and thought about this decision forever and couldn't let all that time I spent go to waste, so tried to cram it all into a 15 minute video! 🤣 Thanks so much for watching and subbing! Truly appreciated!
This is so informative!!! Fantastic reporting; I enjoy this kind of content!🌻🌼🐝
Great video! I love the priorities! Excellent.
I'm between the Gamin In-Reach Mini and/or the Spot X. I now have a Spot GEN3 and MAY just conintue with that.
Great comparison. Definitely helped me choose the Garmin Inreach Mini 2. Thanks buddy.
Glad it was helpful! Ya, the mini 2 is even better! I won't be upgrading, but if I was buying one today it would be the mini2 (or the original mini if I could find on used!). Thanks for watching!
Love the review. Very functional info. I appreciate the info you gave on the ones you didn’t choose too. Makes it easier to make an informed decision
Thanks Thor! Hopefully the crazy amount of research I did before deciding can help someone else out! 🤣 really appreciate your comment! Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for the review! This really helped my choose which ones i want. I’m going back and forth from the mini and explorer+.
I’m glad you found it helpful! Ya, that’s a tough call. Some people prefer the explorer plus because of the maps and easier to text from it. But for me the weight was a big deal. If you nail down what you decide to get; I would love to know what you choose and why. Thanks so much for watching!
@@DoseofDirt I think i’m gonna choose the mini bec how easy it is and how small it is!
Clearly I can't argue with that choice! I have loved it since I bought it! Thanks again for watching!
Very objective and methodical. Well done! Thanks so much!
Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
If you pick up a plb I’d be interested to know what you chose and why. Everyone has different priorities and features they are looking for. Thanks again!
@@DoseofDirt it’s going to be an InReach Mini for trail running and gravel rides out of cell range. A mix of size, reliability and integration with my Forerunner. Thanks again for the great vid!
@@drfreeheel nice! Obviously I think that’s a solid choice! 🤣 love that it’s light weight for trail running!
I’m so grateful I found this video, it is informative and weight for it… it’s funny!! I’m subscribing for those 2 reasons.
Hey! Thanks, Amanda! So glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks so much for subbing!
Thank you for putting up informative information and making me laugh in the process. Please please keep doing that, it fills my heart with joy from the good laughs!@@DoseofDirt
@@amandaboyce4142 Will Do!
The inReach mini was surpassed this year by the mini 2, and then a week later by the Messenger. $100 cheaper, MUCH easier interface, and reverse charging of your phone, the Garmin inReach Messenger is a much better bit of gear.
This was very helpful . My daughter does night hikes which worries me to death and I’ve been looking for something for her to check in and have a emergency method of contact since she goes where there are no towers . I found this to be very helpful and I hope it gives me some peace at night when she’s hiking .
Hey Theresa! I'm glad it was helpful! My garmin was definitely originally purchased primarily for the peace of mind of my family members at home when I'm on crazy adventures, especially overnighters. The Garmin inReach mini is small, works great, has long batter, and easy to pair with your phone.
I just used it to keep in touch with my wife while I was outside of cell range for 8 days on a 100 mile trip. It worked GREAT!
Just remember that there is a subscription service (I use the cheapest, which is $15 a month), but it can be paused for months at a time if needed/wanted.
Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for the great review. I just started researching these devices and came across your video. Your priorities were right in line with mine so you really helped me narrow it down to the one I was already leaning towards.......the Inreach mini. Thanks again for sharing your research and saving me some time!
Great review and research. To note as a Spotx user it has 240 hrs of battery life at 30 minutes tracking. I use at 10 minutes tracking and 30 minutes message fetch and it gives me about 6 full days, which is great for me.
Hey Carlos! Thanks man. Really appreciate that! The SpotX was the hardest to get info on so that is super helpful! I tend not to use tracking so only use it to send messages, so mine lasts forever as well! Thanks so much for watching!
Hey Carlos I just bought the spot x w/Bluetooth hasn't taken it out of the box yet as I keep reading about the network does it take a long time to send and receive messages thanks.
Rolland. Assuming you don't live in the poles, it is currently taking an average of 3 to 5 minutes to send and receive. Maybe more depending on open sky. Take into consideration it will always require more time to receive than to send. It can be sometimes as short as less than 1 minute.
@@CarlosRivera-rw9ho I live in Prescott AZ most of the time I'm out I'm about 15 miles away but poor cellular service is there a frs or gmsr walky talky/2way radio that works that far in a wooded area
Great video! Thanks that actually helped. Best video I’ve found 🙌
One of the best comparison videos I've seen in ANY category, and especially in personal GPS satellite Communitcators. I understand there is a Mini2 now as well, which means that the original can likely be purchased at a discount, or you might pay for the upgrade if there is enough of an improvement. I think MOST of the functionality is the same between the two, but If I remember correctly, I think I saw on another review that the newer Inreach had a faster, newer chip, which probably also increased battery life. But they are really close in actual use, so if you are frugal get the older one at a discount, if not consider the speed and any other improvements of the 2nd generation. Databyter
Thank you! very kind of you! Yes, it could be a great time to get the original inreach with people upgrading! I know I'm still happy with mine, so don't see the need to upgrade. Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt I bought one last, week, I decided to go for the Mini 2 since I read somewhere that one of the nicer things was a better screen resolution and usually a better chip means better batt. life as well. I set it up on the Freedom Plan so I can turn off my subscription occasionally, but according to the checkout sums on the website, on TOP of the yearly subscription, there is a $35ish yearly charge. I thought that was rather slippery of them since I didn't really notice anything like that when comparing the plans. It's there in the fine print. It's only for the freedom plans, but that means at the lowest safety plan level you would have to suspend for two months just to break even on the yearly charge, additionally you are month to month on the freedom plan which costs more per month that a straight annual no suspend sub., So unless you plan to suspend for MOST of the year, you might was well consider the $12 bucks a year vs the $15 per year because the straight non freedom plan charges an activation fee, but after the first time, it's all sub cost, no yearly charge. . But regardless I still think for the low end user that just wants some added security and isn't going to be on SMS discussing the latest novels with buddies while out hiking, I have a very cheap solution after the initial investment. I feel like this device will probably be still relevant for the foreseeable decade, and so the maintenance costs going forward at the lowest levels are just what I need. I feel like I am going to bite the bullet and get off the freedom plan so the device will always work for me. Also the pairing with my Cellphone app seems to have a lot of extra tracking and mapping features which look interesting like waypoints and stuff, but with more detail than the device itself offers. Databyter
Good vid! Helped me understand these things. Not sure I need one, which is why I'm learning about them. :-)
Good call to learn a bunch about them before you buy one. They are expensive! I love mine and have no regrets about buying it. I haven't had to use the SOS button and don't rely on that, but it makes a big difference keeping in touch with my family on long trips (just used it on an 8 day trip with no cell service).
Wish I found your video sooner. I bought a Spot X + subscription today and I'm already disappointed with the tracking performance. I find it very bulky too, with a keyboard too small for my fingers. The InReach Mini was probably a better choice. I watched all the wrong videos...
Ah dang! I'm sorry to hear that! It's tough trying to sift through videos from people who represent the company and those that don't.
Hopefully you're able to get used to it and it ends up working alright for you. if not, you could look into selling it used. Might cost you a bit, but then you could get the unit you want.
Or if you bought it from REI they'll take it back, I think.
Good break down. I just bought the inreach mini.
Thanks, man! Glad you found it helpful! Thanks so much for watching!
Bivy Stick is a good alternative to inReach mini. No activation fees. Change your custom preset-massage as much as you want.
Ya those are some good features! If being a stand alone unit wasn’t such a high priority for me then I probably would have considered it more heavily. Thanks so much for watching!
This was very helpful. Thank you so much for doing all this work.
Thanks, Jarrad! I'm so glad you found it helpful!
Great info. Thank for the video. I appreciate all your research, your presentation of features and your comparison! Excellent! Keep it up!!!!
Thanks, Paul! Truly appreciate that! So glad you found it helpful!
Thank you for such a great review! New to this. May I ask you honestly, why do you prefer Iridium network over Globestar network?
Thanks for this nice comparison. Just one little clarification: as far as I understand, the text of the unlimited so-called 'check in messages' cannot be personalised in Garmin devices. At least not in the cheapest plan. It can be changed for the 'preset messages', however these have a cost of 0,10 Euros each.
I reached the same conclusion and bought the Mini. Thanks for confirming my assumptions and rationale for my decision! Btw, lose the sound effects - drove my wife nuts while I was watching! :)
Thanks, Roy! Really appreciate you watching and I'm glad you found it helpful! I'll lower the sound effects so you don't get caught next time! 🤣 Thanks again!
No way...MORE sounds effects, esp the boingggg when Zoleo lost
Great review & great video. Defiantly gave me more to consider b4 buyin the wrong unit for me…. Thanks so much
Garmin Mini it is
Thanks, Mark! I really appreciate that!
I JUST saw a video that Garmin is launching an inReach Mini 2 sometime in the near future (shared the video in a post, but it's from HikingGuy.com's channel). You may be able to find the original mini on sale, or hold out for the mini 2! Thought I should let you know!
I chose the Explorer plus. The mini is a great option though. Good video - thanks. It’s funny because it does sound like you are setting up priorities to justify your decision. I think that Bluetoothing to your phone with the mini is quite necessary. Sending custom message back and forth is the way to go unless you have mobile phone coverage. Just my thoughts
Hey Trevor! I know a lot of people love the Explorer+ for the navigation and the custom messaging, but those just aren't features I needed. I just don't send custom messages. I have sent 2 to test sending it without pairing my phone (which was a pain... 😆) and one to test the pairing, which was fine. But that's the only time I've ever done it.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your reply-I understand what you are saying.
@@trevorevans7101 Of course! Thanks for watching! Glad we can all get what works for us!
Thank you for the video. Really helped to narrow down my purchase.
Hey Jon! That’s great to hear! Thanks so much for watching! Would be interested to know what you end up getting and why. Nice that there are so many options so you can get what works for your needs. Thanks again for watching!
@@DoseofDirt going with the INreach Mini. Size and flexibility along with the Garmin name goes along way. Thanks! $299 cant find tho right now prices are $350
Dang price fluctuations! If it’s not urgent you could see if the price comes down. What a pain! Agreed on all your points!
@@DoseofDirt first overnight backpacking trip in October solo. Two nights John Muir Wilderness.
@@jondressel6594 that is awesome! I am jealous you are hitting up the JM wilderness! That’s on my list of places to go for sure! Well, I’ll tell you I still would have gone with the mini at $350! Well worth it, especially for solo trips! Would love to hear about the trip when you get back!
I have the Garmin inReach mini, and am quite happy with it.
I previously used a spot, until they stopped supporting that model of theirs, and it was okish, but slightly fragile, bits of plastic would come off if dropped even on pine needles (but it did keep working). I assume that newer models are better, but I do wonder if that large screen is a vulnerability if dropped.
I too use a different device for recording the GPS track and heart rate of my activities, but I also use the every ten minute track feature of my mini, so that those at home have reassurance (they can see the track online, as I hike or bike), and know my last known point.
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Very nice review, thank you! I purchased the the Garmin InReach (ver. 1) a year ago and am happy so far. The only think which is really annoying with Garmin ist that you cannot just use the position signal from their devices for other apps than their own on your phone. For instance, I use Locus Maps Pro a lot on my android cellular and it'd be so nice to couple the Garmin InReach with this app. I know, that there are several work arounds described in the internet. However, none of them worked ... including assistance apps. So, if you have a solution for this I would be happy to know.
Hahaha great bloopers! Yeah I've seen a couple other backpackers who are now affiliates with Zoleo and I'm like, 'why?' It definitely seems like the clear loser here, even though Spot is on a different network. I ended up with the inreach mini as well and got it on sale at REI for $250. They clearly have the best month to month plans and it's the lightest unit. The second place runner up for me was the Bivy Stick but again, it didn't have the stand alone feature. They did have the next best option when it came to monthly plans however. Great video! Really enjoyed watching!
Thanks, man! Ya, the bloopers were too good not to share... 🤣
Ya, I've seen a lot of Zoleo units floating around lately, but I just can't get on board with it. It may work for some people, but not for what I want. And the fact that even a check in message uses one of your plan messages just seems crazy. I am loving my inReach mini so far. Small, easy to use, inexpensive initially and monthly! Thanks so much for watching! Really appreciate your comments!
@@DoseofDirt Totally agree! And I think you can use 1/10 messages you get with the inreach flex plan for a weather report. def best bang for the buck! keep up the great work!
What if you carry both? 1 garmin and 1 zoleo?
I need to know how you feel about the Mini 2!!❤️❤️❤️
I'm curious to know which watch you use for tracking. Great video!!!! thanks
Hey Sandra! I think at the time I was using a Garmin Vivoactive 3, but I've since purchased a Garmin Fenix 6x Pro. It has a much longer battery life, which I needed for my longer hikes, trail runs, and backpacking trips. It is definitely not cheap (around $500, I think) but works really well for me.
A more budget friendly option that still has excellent batter life is the Garmin Instinct. One channel I really like that does a lot of reviews on GPS watches and other trail tech is 'Chase the Summit' He is a trail runner, but the watches are the same for hikers and backpackers. He has a lot of excellent videos and comparisons!
I'm close to pulling the trigger on one of these after seeing the story about "Otter" dyeing on the CDT. ...he died because he didn't have an sos beacon. Your stated number one priority (and that of most people) is whats wrong with all of these devices. Its what 100% of the marketing is based on...fear. They have instilled in you that the normal state of being is to be in fear, that things are bad unless you communicate they're good. To let the loved ones know that everything is NOT normal - it's just fine.
My wife knows where I am, she has a map, she knows where I'll be from night to night (appx) she knows when I'll come back and won't worry about it until theres actually something to worry about. The only reason to have one of these things is to save your life. You are in fact no safer at all because you grunted a few words into a radio - them knowing exactly where you are on a map makes you no safer. They're not going to come 500 miles and save you. I'd like to find a device that sends my location and communicates with emergency services. That communicates with the loved ones that I may be a day later than planned....a premade text.
Beyond that everything else is people and there phones they can't do without.
Thanks for the info! I would like to see the watch you have!
Hi- great video. Quick question: you refer to your watch a few times. What make/ model is your watch? Thanks
I personally carry a PLB, not a sat messenger. I think they're superior in a real emergency. But if I were going to get a sat messenger, I'd go with InReach and avoid Spot, due to reliability issues related to their messenger and satellite network.
Great - thanks!! Good info...
Thanks, KP!
Great review, man, thanks! very entertaining...
Thanks Edward! I really appreciate that! If you pick one up (or have already) I’d love to know which one you go with and why! Thanks so much for watching!
I'm certainly going to look into networks as your review has led me to believe that if network options were the same the spot x may have been a better contender.
Yes, that was definitely a factor. But I think even if the networks had been equal, I still would have taken the Garmin Mini because of the size and weight. Since I take it trail running the weight makes a big difference. I don't use it to send custom messages (I have a few times just to see how hard it is, but there is never a need. And doing it from my phone is super easy if needed), and the battery life has been great as well. So I am still super happy with my decision!
Thanks so much for watching!
Would be interested to know what you decide and why since we all make different decisions to suit our different needs.
InReach transmits with 4x the wattage of Spot, so your messages are more likely to get out with the Garmin. The Garmin sat network is also superior in my opinion. The USDA tested Spot under tree canopy and it was unreliable.
Really informative video! What watch do you have?
FYI, according to Amazon and REI, the battery life is 50 hours. But, Garmin does say 90 to support your claim. Weird.
Hey! Thanks for commenting! Where are you getting the 50 hours from and what tracking interval is that based on? Would be interested to know. Or maybe that's based on personal experience? I just checked the Garmin website again and they indicated 90 hours of battery life at 10 minute tracking. I realize this is an "up to" number, which means it would likely be less than that in less than ideal conditions.
For me, I don't use it for tracking so I don't worry about the continuous battery life in that way. I keep it on but then just send a check in message a few times a day. I'll usually turn it off at night as well. When I use it like that I've come home from 3-4 day trips with 85% batter life still, so I know the battery life is more than sufficient for what I need.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting!
@@DoseofDirt I will go ahead and amend my comment so it does not reflect poorly on you. My mistake.
Hey no worries! Not worried about looking like I messed up, just wanted to make sure I didn't mess it up. There were so many numbers flying around I could have easily had a mistake! That is really weird that Amazon and REI both say 50 hours... The hard thing is it probably depends so much on what the conditions are. I would think that achieving 90 hours of batter life at 10 minute tracking wouldn't be likely since we almost never hike in perfect conditions! 🤣 I honestly appreciate you pointing out something that could have been wrong because I would hate for a bunch of people to see it and I can't correct it! Really appreciate it!
@@DoseofDirt I think if there's tree cover it will work harder to transmit so 50hr may be realistic.
Thanks for the great review. 🙏🏽
Thanks so much for watching! I'm glad you found it helpful!
Very well put together, but please drop the sound effects, they just make the video appear more amateurish. A subtle background music would work much better.
Thanks for the feedback! You're not the only one to say that... I have since gotten away from a lot of sound effects and more background music. 😆
Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt Ah, sorry, this was the first video that I've watched on your channel and I didn't realized you've made some changes. Still a very good comparison though, really helped me out!
@@HobbyHoarder No worries! I appreciate the feedback! Clearly you're not the only one! 😆
Excellent review video! Thanks. Question re satellite coverage -- does a plan cover wherever one goes on the planet regardless of one's home base, or do you need to identify location/region? E.g. if I live in Canada and I'm hiking on a different continent.... Thanks.
Can you explain why the iridium network is better than the one that Spot uses? I have had a spot for years and am thinking about upgrading, but your comment makes me hesitate. I am a motorcyclist, doing lots of long distance stuff in the US and Europe. Please advise. Thanks for the video, very well done.
InReach uses Iridium which is generally a newer satellite network than the network Spot uses. The Spot network uses a lot of satellites that frankly are near the end of their lives, and the sat provider has had financial problems. They say the network will be upgraded with new sats, but we'll see. The device itself is an issue too. InReach transmits with 4x the wattage of Spot, so your messages are more likely to get out with the Garmin. The USDA tested Spot under tree canopy and it was unreliable in those conditions. If you want a true emergency beacon and don't need 2-way messaging, go with a PLB, not a sat messenger.
Great video. It's been hard deciding as I'm sure you know I did get the spot x but the network make me want to get the inreach mini 2. What's the difference in networks send failures? Thanks for a great video and I gave you a sub brother
Hey Rolland! I don't have any data for the difference in send failures. But I can tell you that I've only ever had my Garmin take a long time to send once when I was deep in a slot canyon in Utah. It sent eventually while we were moving, but it took 30 minutes or so. Other than that, it seems to always sent within a few minutes as long as I have a clear view of the sky.
Just got back from an 8 day trip with no cell service so I used my inreach mini a ton to text my wife and keep in touch. It was perfect!
Good stuff 👍👍
Thanks, Devsen! I'm glad you found it helpful! Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks. Very helpful.
Thanks, Cindy! Glad you found it helpful! Thanks so much for watching!
Garmin InReach Mini, hands down winner! Use it for hiking and biking! Provides my wife with comfortable security that her crazy husband has not crashed on his beloved gravel bike!! Well at least that he survived the crash!! 😂
Best review, thanks!
Thank you. Great video.
Thanks, Jade! Glad it was helpful!
Prior to this video I knew nothing about Satellite Communicators, but walked away feeling more than satisfied with the information given.
@@jadedannar5877 Glad you hear it! Thank you!
In reach Mini 2 is better than the first, just bought one. :)
Hey Brady! I have looked into the Mini 2. I think if you're buying one now, the 2 is probably the way to go. But not worth upgrading to me. And it may also be a good time to get an original mini on discount (or used...).
Thanks for watching!
I bought an inreach mini in 2018. It worked ok until a couple of months ago now the internal battery will not charge up and there is no backup or service from Garmin and you cannot buy new batteries. The only answer from Garmin is that I need to buy a new device. So I'm going to buy a Spot X.
DANG! That's a major bummer. I know others who have had their inreach for a long long time, so that's terrible yours is having issues. Wish Garmin would do something about it. Would love to know what you think of your Spot X after using a Garmin for so long!
Actually, I found I could buy a new battery on Alliexpress. Initially the battery from AliExpress didn't work very well. But, I found a piece of reconditioning software had popped up on Garmin website which fixed up the problem. So I am using the AliExpress battery and it is all working fine
It’s a shame most reviewers have no idea about ZOLEO and leave out quite a few important features
Hey Lout! I think Zoleo may have come up with quite a few additional features since this video came out. I may need to try to do an updated video.
If you can shed some light on the additional features here in the comments, it would be greatly appreciated!
For me weight and full functionality without a cell phone were big time factors, so the mini is still the way to go for me.
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Now that Garmin has disabled custom messages for new customers: how would that alter your opinion?
Question I have is, assuming sat phones work during power outages to communicate with other sat phones, will the sat phone SERVICE plan still work in a power outage. For instance, how will the billing be accomplished and will phones be able to access the network and accounts if grid fails.
Great review! Thank u!
What kind of watch do you use? Also have you checked out the mini 2?
I have a Garmin Fenix 6x Pro and I LOVE it. The batter lasts forever and it is super easy to use. There is a new version that is now touch screen, but I find I mess things up with the touch screen so prefer just the buttons.
I haven't tried the inreach mini 2 yet, but maybe I'll find one on sale so I can compare them. I think it does have a couple new features which would be nice, but so far the original mini has been just fine. I just got back from an 8 day trip where I used it a lot and it worked perfectly!
What is the name of the backapack in the background on the left? The orange Osprey
Awesome video!
Thank you!
I'm a little bit puzzled about the advantage of the Zoleo using a cell signal, since you have to use your cell phone to compose or read texts anyway. Isn't it just as easy for you to look at the phone, see that you have signal, and then send a regular text?
I kinda want the Garmin GPSMAP 67i
Curious as to what you heard on Globalstar that waved you off of it. Unreliable? It seems like if not for that one thing, you'd have been holding a Spot X in this video.
Ya, that was a big factor for me. I read/watched some side-by-side comparisons and it seemed like the Garmin typically sent faster and/or more reliably. It's interesting because the Iridium has more satellites and they are closer to the earth, so I wonder if that impacts the coverage and reliability (a lot of factors here). The size and weight were also big factors. I like that the inReach Mini is less than 100 grams but still offers really good battery life. Maybe I was also drawn to the simplicity of the inReach mini? I guess hard to pin down ALL the reasons why in a 15 minute video. Do you have one or have you been looking? Would be interested to know what you have or are looking at getting . So much about personal preference! I definitely don't think there is one "best" PLB for everyone! Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt We're looking. This surprises some people, but we only started hiking regularly 8 or 9 months ago. We saw it as a good way to combat COVID cabin fever, and get out. We also thought it would be cheap, and it was at first, when we were only going out a couple miles at a time. Now on an 8 mile trek, I find myself hauling 15+ pounds of just water. Thankfully I've lost quite a bit of weight, and the side effect seems to be that having a 20-30 pound pack doesn't seem to bother me anywhere near as much as it "should" based on the other youtubers I'm watching, but I know a water system is in our future as we continue to progress. Right now, we're sticking to trails where we are quite unlikely to go more than 15 or 20 minutes without coming across someone if we're stopped (unless we're at extreme ends of the day) and someone always knows where we're at, but I also know that eventually, as we progress, we're going to need a PLB. This is going to be happening sooner rather than later. The list goes on quite a ways actually, I won't bore you with it, I'm sure you know what's on it anyway.
Our biggest challenge has been to source gear that is both reliable AND reasonably priced. We're not pros, we don't need the best of the best gear meant to survive a trip to mars. Functional and reliable are the main criteria. As an example, my 40L backpack is a VenturePal I paid $22 for on Amazon. Those Ospreys you use look great, amazing in fact, but our gear budget requires a bit of frugality at this stage.
To bring this back to the point, that's why I've been eyeballing the Spot X for the PLB. The Zoleo was already eliminated for lack of functionality, and that they seem to make up for a more inexpensive unit with a more expensive and limited subscription plan. The Spot X is now also $200, but I'm questioning the reliability box after your review here. All things being equal, $150 is $150... that'll cover a water filtration system and a couple other small items on my list. I'm not an ultralight enthusiast, so 50 grams doesn't bother me, and the battery life on all the units far exceeds the time we'll be going without access to a plug. Being able to send a message if we're in a tough spot though, that's kind of important.
@@northeastfamilyadventures9186 that is awesome! I totally here you in trying to find gear that works well for your needs and doesn’t break the bank! It’s interesting that we all find different things that well “splurge” on but others where we are willing to pay a little more. For me, I’ve found that used is the way to go for packs. I got two of my ospreys used for MUCH cheaper than new. I actually wonder if there will be some used PLBs coming up from people who bought them and then decided I’d isn’t worth the monthly plan. For the SpotX, I don’t think the network was the final straw, if it was really a combination of things. You should check out the review that MyLifeOutdoors did on the SpotX. If I remember right from the video, he’s been using spot devices for years and really likes them. He can do that device justice since he has been using it for so long. I personally know a few adventurers who also have the SpotX and love it. So I don’t think it’s a bad choice. Just wasn’t the right choice for me. Agreed that Zoleo (and similar devices like somewear and bivystick) are out of the running for lack of functionality. But check out that other review and let me know what you think!
@@northeastfamilyadventures9186 this one: ua-cam.com/video/Pa3ihmNeiqI/v-deo.html
@@DoseofDirt Ahh, an influencer that got the gear for free. Seems like an up front and honest review, but I always hesitate taking something too seriously when someone is reviewing a piece of gear they didn't actually spend their own money on. It's good info, so thanks for the link. At the back of my mind, I'm thinking, "Would Jeff have gone out and spent $350 on the InReach mini if someone spotted him a free SpotX?" I'm pretty sure I'd try very hard to make do with the free SpotX as long as it was "Good enough" which is about the vibe I got by the end of that video. This, of course, brings me to the conclusion that your choice on the InReach Mini was probably the correct one.
Sooo ... I subbed! Good stuff, Jeff. Skal, ^v^
Hey! Thank you! That is awesome! Glad you enjoyed the video! Would love to know what other stuff you'd like to see! Thanks so much for watching and subbing!! 👊🏻
Great review. Unfortunately I'll no longer be using any Garmin products. Their customer service is the worst I've ever encountered. They are all about 💰 💰 💰 and could care less about customers. Makes it easy for me to throw away my inreach mini and start the search for something else for my back country saftey.
Ah dang. That sucks. I haven't had to deal with their customer service. But I bet you can sell that inreach used for a pretty good price! I'd be interested in what device you go with and how you think it compares to the inreach mini!
Fantastic video thanks
InReach mini for the win. I camp and drive a Jeep off-road, and it's been the best for "out of cell range" communication. My preset messages are simple; Hitting the highway (I'm leaving for a trip, or heading back home), This is my campsite (where I am for the night(s), Going to explore (up in the morning and seeing what's around for the day). Why look at a small Explorer screen when you can bluetooth pair the mini to a "phablet" phone and get a larger map display? Ultimately, I use Gaia now for navigation and the Garmin inReach mini solely as a communication device. Each do their jobs very well, and I hope this comment helps others dial in their needs as they shop for communication/mapping needs. Peace! Pete - KI7LIL (HAM radio callsign, and should also be considered as a communication source!)
Thanks, Peter! Sounds like we use the inReach basically the same. I use it solely for communication and SOS if ever needed. Love using my large phone for navigation. the inReach Explorer+ just seems like it would feel clunky for navigation since the phone is just so easy.
that's awesome that you use a HAM radio! I've wanted to get into that, but just haven't made the time. Seems like it would be a really good skill to have!
Thanks so much for watching and taking the time to leave a thoughtful and helpful comment!
@@DoseofDirt I've enjoyed the HAM hobby. I studied for three weeks using a free online study course and passed the test my first try. Set aside some time and see how you do... if you already have an interest then you'll do fine. Take care, and I'm going to check out your other videos to watch.
@@peterkunka2694 That's awesome! I'm definitely going to look into that!
Another thing I like to do is volunteer at aid station for ultramarathons. They often have need for HAM radio operators since there are check in stations way outside of cell range! Would be another use for it!
@@DoseofDirt Yessir, I’ve listened to coordinated events by HAM’s here in the Phoenix area many times before. There is a lot one can do with HAM radio: Skywarn (folks reporting weather systems in their area), APRS (Automated Packet Reporting System), SOTA (Summits On The Air - people hike mountain peaks and make calls for contacts in a contest), ISS (the International Space Station has a HAM radio - track it’s orbit and listen for it/attempt to contact it), AutoPatch (some repeaters have this function to use your HAM radio as a telephone to make calls), ARES (Amateur Radio Emergency Service), and a host of other features and dedicated Nets that have full schedules. Then, there’s the digital side… which allows for communication globally using the internet. I prefer D-Star over Fusion or DMR, and have made contacts as far away as 8,000 miles to Indonesia. Very cool hobby that has a lot to offer to a variety of interests. I don’t want to hog your comment section (maybe I have already…), but if you’d like to talk HAM radio some more, or have other questions about how I use the radio and/or Garmin InReach mini, then email me at KI7LIL@icloud.com and it’d be great to share more in email. Cheers! Pete
Dude, this is awesome! Crazy that you've contacted people in INDONESIA! I am definitely going to keep your email on file for when I finally get into HAM. Seriously been thinking about it for several years! Thanks so much for all the info! This is fantastic!
Garmin doesn’t give you a dedicated # like Zoleo. That means your family can’t message you unless you message them first. What good is that ?
Thank you for the video. I was thinking of Inreach mini from REI but I'm reading bad reviews! Is your mini with the update still working good for You????
Hey Renea! Thanks for your comment! So far mine has still been working great. I’ll admit that I don’t use it for tracking (which I think may have been one of the issues Garmin was trying to fix). I use it to send preset messages and occasionally custom messages, as well as ping my location to my wife and check weather. So far all of that has been working perfectly with no issues! And great thing about getting it from REI is that if you don’t like it you can return it! I’d love to know what you decide. Thanks so much for watching!
My SPOT Gen 3 won't pick up a GPS signal. I'm switching asap as it's ruined the trip I'm on the moment.
Hey Van! Dang, that stinks that the SPOT gave up the ghost! I'm still loving my inReach Mini even a year later! Super small and light, lowest plan is just $15 a month and gives me everything I need, I've always had a signal, and custom messages are super easy with the app! For me, it's perfect!
Thanks for watching!
@@DoseofDirt That's great. I am interested now in the Garmin mini 2. I see their cheapest plan has a small extra charge for pings and am wondering how many ping charges I would get as I'm not sure what exactly that is for. Do you know? Main thing, like you, is just to be able to be rescued.
@@vanmore5124 Hey Van, this is a feature I haven't used a ton because it isn't useful to me, but I know other people love it. The pings mean location pings when you are in tracking mode. So you can set your inreach to track your location and specified intervals for your own personal tracking purposes, or to update those at home with your location.
It is a cool feature, but I use my Garmin watch to track my hike personally. And for my wife I just let her know my route ahead of time and my estimated time of completion. Then my preset messages are structured to tell her whether I'm on track or a little behind.
But a few of my buddies turn the tracking on every time. so really comes down to personal preference.
Hope that helps!
Great review. New subscriber.
Hey! Thanks, man! Truly appreciated! After all the time I spent making my decision, I figured I should probably share it! Thanks for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
I chose the Somewear. My main concern is the SOS option. The texting is a nice option but not my #1 priority. Plus the cheapest plan is $100.00/year. That being said the annual cost of any of the plans for any of the devices is a bargain if you need to hit that SOS button.
Hey Kevin! Thanks for sharing what you decided to go with. I think a lot of these devices of updated plans and functionality, so I'd like to look into them again and do another comparison. So far I'm super happy with my inreach mini, but I'm glad that are lots of options so everyone can get something that works for them!
Thanks for your comment!
why would Zoleo's wifi connectivity be such a plus? If you r within a wifi sygnal you can just use your phone, right?